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Offline OhBlivEeUn

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So why this over XIM Apex?
« on: 10:11 PM - 11/15/21 »
I got used to XIM and use it almost exclusively for shooting games, but this controller looks professional. Could I use it on the Switch?

What makes this so special versus a SCUF or Elite Controller as an Xbox player? Not trying to be rude but just trying to learn more.
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Re: So why this over XIM Apex?
« Reply #1 on: 03:32 PM - 11/16/21 »
The ability to tilt the controller to make small adjustments to your aim.

I've used the XIM 360 and XIM 4 as I prefer mouse and keyboard, but it's a pain in the arse to set up if you just want to loaf on the couch and play.

I was thinking the other month how annoying it is that the you can't tilt the xbox controller to correct your aim (as I have potato aim on a controller). I then ended up checking the xim forums a few weeks later to find they're going to remove the barrier I have to console FPS, and now I'm checking every day waiting for news of a release date :)

I don't know about using this on the Switch though.
« Last Edit: 09:41 AM - 11/17/21 by Heresy »

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Re: So why this over XIM Apex?
« Reply #2 on: 04:37 PM - 11/16/21 »
Switch is not supported, but might be in the future.

I too am a complete potato with a controller, but I look like I can use one with a NEXUS, due entirely to the motion aim.

That improvement trickles down to general stickplay too as I'm much better than I was a few months ago.

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Re: So why this over XIM Apex?
« Reply #3 on: 06:24 PM - 11/16/21 »
Conceptually it sounds good so good luck with the release XIM team, I will keep an eye on it as I too have potato aim after years of not using controller.

I'd be concerned about the titling being a detriment but I am probably wrong.
« Last Edit: 06:38 PM - 11/16/21 by OhBlivEeUn »
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Re: So why this over XIM Apex?
« Reply #4 on: 09:18 PM - 11/16/21 »
Switch is not supported, but might be in the future.

I too am a complete potato with a controller, but I look like I can use one with a NEXUS, due entirely to the motion aim.

That improvement trickles down to general stickplay too as I'm much better than I was a few months ago.

So with you entirely using motion aim, do you have your motion sense tuned for a 360 or do you micro adjust? Do you use the right Thumbstick primarily or only to center?

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Re: So why this over XIM Apex?
« Reply #5 on: 09:33 PM - 11/16/21 »
I'm pretty sure that antithesis games with NEXUS like I do -- stick coarse and motion fine.
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Re: So why this over XIM Apex?
« Reply #6 on: 09:43 PM - 11/16/21 »
Noted ,

sheesh Iím so excited to see people what the community will achieve with NEXUS.

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Re: So why this over XIM Apex?
« Reply #7 on: 03:24 AM - 11/17/21 »
I dislike controllers for shooters, hence why I use the Apex.

Personally, I believe they'd have been better developing a newer version of Apex along with a navigation controller to pair with it, or doing something like Tuact did with their Venom by offering the mouse/controller and device all in one package.

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Re: So why this over XIM Apex?
« Reply #8 on: 04:29 AM - 11/17/21 »
I'd be concerned about the titling being a detriment but I am probably wrong.
I was sceptical too, but tilting is actually really intuitive and works alongside stick movement. So you can turn with the sticks and tilt the controller at the same time. The learning curve is really shallow, it's not hard to pick up at all.

So with you entirely using motion aim, do you have your motion sense tuned for a 360 or do you micro adjust? Do you use the right Thumbstick primarily or only to center?
For HIP, most aim is as OBsIV said - coarse movement with the sticks, fine movement using motion aim.

For ADS, it's mostly motion aim within around a 90 degree vector. If I need to flick, I'll hit the stick. Most right-stick input is to control recoil.

Others will play differently, pretty much everything is customisable.

I dislike controllers for shooters, hence why I use the Apex.
I am incompetent using a regular controller for shooters, but competent with a NEXUS. It's night and day thanks to motion aim.

I still prefer APEX for online MP based on 40 odd years of m/kb gaming. But my controller gameplay has improved exponentially this year due to NEXUS.
« Last Edit: 04:46 AM - 11/17/21 by antithesis »

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Re: So why this over XIM Apex?
« Reply #9 on: 06:06 AM - 11/17/21 »
Have to agree , is annoying setting xim apex up just for a quick game, but have no choice I shoot like I'm Johnny 5 from short circuit. Proper robotic !! Looking forward to this nexus.

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Re: So why this over XIM Apex?
« Reply #10 on: 08:36 AM - 11/17/21 »

So with you entirely using motion aim, do you have your motion sense tuned for a 360 or do you micro adjust? Do you use the right Thumbstick primarily or only to center?

I'd imagine stick for general moving around the map, turning, centering etc. then motion for actual aiming. Similar to how I use my arm to turn and centre with a mouse, then when I spot an enemy I flick my arm toward them to get the crosshair close then do the rest of my aiming with my wrist pretty much. I guess the arm movements for larger turns would be replaced with the stick and the more accurate wrist aiming scenarios would be done with the motion aim.