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Re: Did you get the sample?
« Reply #240 on: 08:14 AM - 11/23/21 »
Iím pretty new when it comes to remote play / this Beloader option. Iím currently running COD at 120hz on the PS5, does something like the Beloader still allow me to do that?

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Re: Did you get the sample?
« Reply #241 on: 04:40 AM - 11/24/21 »
Iím pretty new when it comes to remote play / this Beloader option. Iím currently running COD at 120hz on the PS5, does something like the Beloader still allow me to do that?

Yea you'll still be able to run your game at 120.

Your PS5 hardware is still doing all the work. Your pc is only a pass through, remote play isn't really about your secondary devices' capabilities. Not for what we're doing anyways.
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Re: Did you get the sample?
« Reply #242 on: 12:50 AM - 11/25/21 »
But If I get same / better results with wired Remote Play - I should stay with the current "solving" (Remote Play with wired connection) and waiting for Console Tuner hopefully finding a solution next year.

Their solution will most likely just be a Remote Play stick too. Id be highly surprised if the Cronus Zen guys can solve a problem no one else in the industry can. And given how its the Cronus guys we are talking about it might as well be based on the Chiaki code.

If anyone will solve the problem then its the Beloader guys. By purchasing their device you fund their next project which is about cloning the PS5 security chip. That would be a big step towards direct compatibility.
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Re: Did you get the sample?
« Reply #243 on: 02:53 AM - 11/25/21 »
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Re: Did you get the sample?
« Reply #244 on: 06:11 AM - 11/25/21 »
But If I get same / better results with wired Remote Play - I should stay with the current "solving" (Remote Play with wired connection) and waiting for Console Tuner hopefully finding a solution next year.
Their solution will most likely just be a Remote Play stick too. Id be highly surprised if the Cronus Zen guys can solve a problem no one else in the industry can. And given how its the Cronus guys we are talking about it might as well be based on the Chiaki code.
Od1n, you may be confused. ConsoleTuner is J2Kbr and Titan Two, not Cronus Zen.

ConsoleTuner's solution is a modchipped DualSense. Beloader will be cheaper and potentially perform as well as a modded DualSense. We shall see...

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Re: Did you get the sample?
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Re: Did you get the sample?
« Reply #246 on: 07:01 AM - 11/25/21 »
But If I get same / better results with wired Remote Play - I should stay with the current "solving" (Remote Play with wired connection) and waiting for Console Tuner hopefully finding a solution next year.

Their solution will most likely just be a Remote Play stick too. Id be highly surprised if the Cronus Zen guys can solve a problem no one else in the industry can. And given how its the Cronus guys we are talking about it might as well be based on the Chiaki code.

If anyone will solve the problem then its the Beloader guys. By purchasing their device you fund their next project which is about cloning the PS5 security chip. That would be a big step towards direct compatibility.

I am referring to Titan Two Guys, not Zen Guys.

But...
Is there a business relationship between XIM and Beloader? It is remarkable how much Beloader is praised and recommended by the XIM team.

I mean, this is a $50 gaming stick where you have to give your PSN data to make it work - the same works with remote play in a secure way without giving your account data to a Chinese gaming stick manufacturer.

Why the advertising for Beloader?
I am still skeptical.
I see no advantage - remote play, as before. No cracked code, just a workaround.
So I can't quite understand the praise for Beloader.

I don't even know: who is the team behind Beloader, is it worth investing, what will come the next years? Are they trustworthy? I can't find any information, that they need money to clone the PS5 security chip...

The homepage and the blocked PayPal account are already unserious. Many customers here do not know what is with their orders.
And there I am supposed to enter my PSN account data directly for initial setup?!

EDIT: The item Beloader has 20 ratings with 5 stars since day 1. This has not changed until today. The ratings on this homepage alone are fake. You can't even rate it.
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Re: Did you get the sample?
« Reply #247 on: 08:13 AM - 11/25/21 »
So why exactly are you so upset about it Sorothos?

Or are you just venting your thoughts out loud?

I don't know exactly what you want?

I use remote play with my laptop & PS5 wired. I like the convenience of beloader but I'm not paying $50 for something I don't really "need". I might get it one day, it's kinda a pain having my laptop on and nearby.
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Re: Did you get the sample?
« Reply #248 on: 10:49 AM - 11/25/21 »
Is there a business relationship between XIM and Beloader? It is remarkable how much Beloader is praised and recommended by the XIM team.

There is absolutely no business relationship between Beloader and XIM.

They approached me and I offered that we would evaluate the device and provide an opinion. I sent it to Od1n and he was pleasantly surprised how well it personally worked for him considering all other RP solutions he tried performed notably worse. I'm waiting on more feedback from the community about it before we start officially building PS5 translators.  That is the extent of things related to this.
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Re: Did you get the sample?
« Reply #249 on: 12:16 PM - 11/25/21 »
So why exactly are you so upset about it Sorothos?

Or are you just venting your thoughts out loud?

I don't know exactly what you want?

I use remote play with my laptop & PS5 wired. I like the convenience of beloader but I'm not paying $50 for something I don't really "need". I might get it one day, it's kinda a pain having my laptop on and nearby.

I don't find the company trustworthy so far and you have to submit your PSN data to make the stick work. That's the only reason I'm just cautious and want to make it understandable to more people (in terms of data security).

It is clear to me that you have to enter the data for the stick to work, it is based on remote play after all.

Imagine that at some point this data is stolen or misused.

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Re: Did you get the sample?
« Reply #250 on: 12:28 PM - 11/25/21 »
I'd agree with you about your PSN credentials. But, like all RP soltuions, you only enter your credentials into a Sony website. The website will produce a PSN ID that is used. Maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but, the PSN ID doesn't look like something that can be used for theft.

But certainly, if you don't feel comfortable with the device and how it works, then, definitely don't use it. This is why the Beloader people wanted XIM to brand it and sell it because of potential trust issues like this. This isn't the type of device and solution we would want to brand. Or, even if it was, we would build it ourselves.
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Re: Did you get the sample?
« Reply #251 on: 01:22 PM - 11/25/21 »
I'd agree with you about your PSN credentials. But, like all RP soltuions, you only enter your credentials into a Sony website. The website will produce a PSN ID that is used. Maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but, the PSN ID doesn't look like something that can be used for theft.

But certainly, if you don't feel comfortable with the device and how it works, then, definitely don't use it. This is why the Beloader people wanted XIM to brand it and sell it because of potential trust issues like this. This isn't the type of device and solution we would want to brand. Or, even if it was, we would build it ourselves.

I'm assuming you're looking at building & branding one yourselves before releasing nexus? I realize a massive portion of your apex sales & future nexus sales are to Sony console users.
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Re: Did you get the sample?
« Reply #252 on: 02:21 PM - 11/25/21 »
I'm assuming you're looking at building & branding one yourselves before releasing nexus?

No. I don't like the solution enough to invest in it.
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Re: Did you get the sample?
« Reply #253 on: 03:45 PM - 11/25/21 »
Is there a business relationship between XIM and Beloader? It is remarkable how much Beloader is praised and recommended by the XIM team.

I mean, this is a $50 gaming stick where you have to give your PSN data to make it work - the same works with remote play in a secure way without giving your account data to a Chinese gaming stick manufacturer.

Why the advertising for Beloader?
I am still skeptical.
I see no advantage - remote play, as before. No cracked code, just a workaround.
So I can't quite understand the praise for Beloader.
I've been a huge sceptic from the start and have openly voiced that opinion, so there's definitely no compulsion on behalf of XIM or the community to polish a turd.

I normally wouldn't give Beloader a second look based on the origin and security risks of the device, but Od1n's test results are very impressive for Wi-Fi and he has put my mind at ease regarding data access.

The convenience of the dongle will be the deciding factor for many PS5 gamers as this can already be done faster and more safely over ethernet Remote Play. It gets tiresome to fire up a computer just to use a XIM on PS5, so any viable solution is better than none.

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Re: Did you get the sample?
« Reply #254 on: 04:26 PM - 11/25/21 »
I am referring to Titan Two Guys, not Zen Guys.

But...
Is there a business relationship between XIM and Beloader? It is remarkable how much Beloader is praised and recommended by the XIM team.

I mean, this is a $50 gaming stick where you have to give your PSN data to make it work - the same works with remote play in a secure way without giving your account data to a Chinese gaming stick manufacturer.

Why the advertising for Beloader?
I am still skeptical.
I see no advantage - remote play, as before. No cracked code, just a workaround.
So I can't quite understand the praise for Beloader.

I don't even know: who is the team behind Beloader, is it worth investing, what will come the next years? Are they trustworthy? I can't find any information, that they need money to clone the PS5 security chip...

The homepage and the blocked PayPal account are already unserious. Many customers here do not know what is with their orders.
And there I am supposed to enter my PSN account data directly for initial setup?!

EDIT: The item Beloader has 20 ratings with 5 stars since day 1. This has not changed until today. The ratings on this homepage alone are fake. You can't even rate it.

I checked it via a wireshark equivalent installed on my router, couldnt find any suspicious activities. And if in doubt just use 2FA on your account. You should use unique passwords across all your logins anyway.

Also the product is really amazing, if someone would have told me 2 weeks ago that there is a wireless stick which does as good as wired Sony Remote Play i would have laughed. A good product deserves some praise, especially since there are so many people out there waiting for a good solution. It would be wrong to not advertise it.
Also Beloader didnt want to become the vendor but only the supplier. Since they started selling it by themselvs they had to organize a webshop and website from the scratch, hence it doesnt look professional and they have issues with their Paypal Account.
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