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Re: How to play all PS5 games over Remote Play
« Reply #180 on: 05:03 PM - 11/27/21 »
The link Howling Mad provided implies the PS Remote Play app requires Android 10 to work with a wired DS4. Fire TV is Android 9. We shall see :)

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Re: How to play all PS5 games over Remote Play
« Reply #181 on: 04:22 AM - 11/28/21 »
First of all, thank you all very much for your feedback to this point. You are right, antithesis. This could indeed be the bottleneck here.

I just found out that the Fire TV Stick 4K is based on Android 7.1 and the 4K MAX is based on Android 9. To be on the "safer" side, I changed my Amazon order to the 4K MAX version now. This might change the odds that the wired solution will then be supported earlier if the stick gets a version bump. Anyways I will test this. Who knows, maybe it is working.

https://developer.amazon.com/de/docs/fire-tv/fire-os-overview.html

PS Remote Play
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• Use the DUALSHOCKⓇ4 wireless controller on mobile devices with Android 10 or later installed.
• Use the DualSense™ wireless controller on mobile devices with Android 12 or later installed.

My shipment should arrive end of next week. I will definitely provide an update here.
« Last Edit: 04:30 AM - 11/28/21 by Howling Mad Murdock »
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Re: How to play all PS5 games over Remote Play
« Reply #182 on: 04:30 AM - 11/28/21 »
Worth a shot in any case. If I can get XIM APEX and NEXUS Manager apps running on this, as well as piping 4K Netflix and Amazon Prime content through Fire TV 4K Max, then I'm happy. So I really had nothing to lose :)

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Re: How to play all PS5 games over Remote Play
« Reply #183 on: 04:43 AM - 11/28/21 »
True!  8) In any case I have a new and cool tech gadget to play around with.
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Re: How to play all PS5 games over Remote Play
« Reply #184 on: 10:04 AM - 11/30/21 »
I'm having the same issue:

Xim Apex works fine on pc with Dualsense, but once I load Remote Play, it just locks the controller and I have to exit/unplug to work again.

It surely isnt a Xim issue, but ... that's odd. If anyone knows a workaround. I tried with a Mayflash PS4 gamepad adapter as well and the results were the same.

I'll try to find my Madcatz Alpha Arcade stick and see if it works... but that one doesn't have analog axis so probably not useful.

For that issue to go away you're gonna have to use a Sony DS4 V2 controller.

Is that 100% confirmed? a DS4 v2 in my country is selling higher than a Dualsense... I could try to get one tho, if that would confirmed solve the problem.

The weird part is that I managed to make it work once playing Returnal, but it just freezes after a couple of seconds.

Anyway, thanks for taking the time answering!

Of course anytime, I was having the same issue using dualsense. It worked and when it did it worked well. But it desynced to often and also starting it up in the beginning often took a ton of tries. Once I got my DS4 V2 (official Sony one not a knockoff) it works flawlessly every time I setup remote play.

Good luck!

Good to know!

I actually managed to kinda "up" the chances of working I guess...

using HIDUSB driver overclocker https://github.com/LordOfMice/hidusbf

and changing the USB port responsible for the controller to 500hz. For some reason I managed to make it work again a few more times, so... for anyone wanting to try, maybe that's a workaround

But I guess DS4 must work right off better.

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Re: How to play all PS5 games over Remote Play
« Reply #185 on: 10:21 AM - 11/30/21 »
I'm having the same issue:

Xim Apex works fine on pc with Dualsense, but once I load Remote Play, it just locks the controller and I have to exit/unplug to work again.

It surely isnt a Xim issue, but ... that's odd. If anyone knows a workaround. I tried with a Mayflash PS4 gamepad adapter as well and the results were the same.

I'll try to find my Madcatz Alpha Arcade stick and see if it works... but that one doesn't have analog axis so probably not useful.

For that issue to go away you're gonna have to use a Sony DS4 V2 controller.

Is that 100% confirmed? a DS4 v2 in my country is selling higher than a Dualsense... I could try to get one tho, if that would confirmed solve the problem.

The weird part is that I managed to make it work once playing Returnal, but it just freezes after a couple of seconds.

Anyway, thanks for taking the time answering!

Of course anytime, I was having the same issue using dualsense. It worked and when it did it worked well. But it desynced to often and also starting it up in the beginning often took a ton of tries. Once I got my DS4 V2 (official Sony one not a knockoff) it works flawlessly every time I setup remote play.

Good luck!

Good to know!

I actually managed to kinda "up" the chances of working I guess...

using HIDUSB driver overclocker https://github.com/LordOfMice/hidusbf

and changing the USB port responsible for the controller to 500hz. For some reason I managed to make it work again a few more times, so... for anyone wanting to try, maybe that's a workaround

But I guess DS4 must work right off better.

Ah well that's pretty good! You certainly had it working more consistently then mine.

But yea once you use an official DS4 V2 it's insane how flawless everything syncs up & works perfectly each time you fire it up.

Also as an addendum, it might just be me but remote play actually feels more responsive with xim than before this whole dualsense check fiasco started.
Keyboard replacement: Sony Move Navigation Controller l Mouse: Logitech G9x & G502 l Mousepad: MM400 l Controller: PS5 (PS4 hori fighting commander) l XIM: Apex l Gaming Monitor: LG 27UD68-W l Headset: Sony Pulse Wireless Headset


My old config/setup: https://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=25362.msg306559#msg306559

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Re: How to play all PS5 games over Remote Play
« Reply #186 on: 04:10 PM - 11/30/21 »
This is just a quick heads up from the Fire TV front. Sideloading the APK (V 4.6.0) indeed worked and the connection with the PS5 could be established. However, the USB Hub I ordered is not working with the Fire TV stick (neither ethernet nor USB devices are recognized). Therefore, I could only verify what I assumed already: Although the DS V2 can be paired with the Fire TV Stick via Bluetooth (and browsing the Fire TV stick menu works fine), the Dual Shock is not recognized by the PS Remote App:
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Wireless controller cannot be used. Your device does not support this wireless controller. Therefore, you cannot use it with remote play
I am going to test a different USB Hub together with an OTG cable in the coming days. I still want to know wether the App refuses to recognize the controller even when it is wired to the stick. :P

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Re: How to play all PS5 games over Remote Play
« Reply #187 on: 04:12 PM - 11/30/21 »
Did you try the official Amazon Fire TV ethernet adapter?

I have the ethernet adapter. My Fire TV should show up in the next day or so.

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Re: How to play all PS5 games over Remote Play
« Reply #188 on: 04:30 PM - 11/30/21 »
No, I did not try the official Ethernet adapter. I ordered this one here (https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07NPGVRYV) which claimed that it would work with the Fire TV stick.

As far as I understand you can't connect any USB devices when using the official adapter. // edit: Or at least you also need an OTG cable for this as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqOtcVWrNW0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73DEkwbpcA0

I now ordered this USB Hub (https://www.amazon.de/dp/B00LLUEJFU/) and this OTG cable (https://www.amazon.de/dp/B00EJP5XR2/).
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Re: How to play all PS5 games over Remote Play
« Reply #189 on: 04:40 PM - 11/30/21 »
Yes, the Amazon ethernet adapter needs an OTG micro-USB to USB-A adapter. I have a number of them lying around, I'll let you know if it works.

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Re: How to play all PS5 games over Remote Play
« Reply #190 on: 04:43 AM - 12/01/21 »
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Regular Use -

1. Turn on PS5 using the power button. Ignore if PS5 is in Rest Mode and Step 14 is enabled.
2. Connect XIM with mouse, keyboard & DualSense (or DS4 V2) to PC.
3. Start Remote Play app and connect to your PS5.
4. Enter the PSN user account password in Remote Play if one is set.
5. Use the screen or HDMI input connected to PS5 to view the game.

This won't work for me.
If I follow this, the Controller won't get a connection via remote play.

Only if I reset Xim Apex to factory settings before I connect it to my PC I will get a stable connection via remote play.

This is realy annoying because I have to create and configure all configs again.

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Re: How to play all PS5 games over Remote Play
« Reply #191 on: 05:02 AM - 12/01/21 »
You definitely don't need to perform a factory reset.

Figure out when to connect the controller in your setup. If you're using a DualSense it may need to be connected last. Or you may need to use a USB 2.0 port on your PC. The simplest solution is to use a DualShock 4 V2, if you have one.

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Re: How to play all PS5 games over Remote Play
« Reply #192 on: 08:05 AM - 12/01/21 »
You definitely don't need to perform a factory reset.

Figure out when to connect the controller in your setup. If you're using a DualSense it may need to be connected last. Or you may need to use a USB 2.0 port on your PC. The simplest solution is to use a DualShock 4 V2, if you have one.

This right here, I kept having little syncing issues where I continually had to keep Reconnecting. All that went away as soon as I started using an official Sony DS4 V2.
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Keyboard replacement: Sony Move Navigation Controller l Mouse: Logitech G9x & G502 l Mousepad: MM400 l Controller: PS5 (PS4 hori fighting commander) l XIM: Apex l Gaming Monitor: LG 27UD68-W l Headset: Sony Pulse Wireless Headset


My old config/setup: https://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=25362.msg306559#msg306559

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Re: How to play all PS5 games over Remote Play
« Reply #193 on: 06:01 PM - 12/01/21 »
After some extensive testing here are my results Ö

The official PS Remote Play App using a wired Dual Shock V2 controller didnít work either. It gave me the exact same error, I posted above.

However, the Fire TV Stick (FTVS) and Chiaki + Dual Shock V2 worked surprisingly well with the XIM. Actually, I donít know how or what tools you need to measure the input lag precisely. At least in my subjective opinion there is no noticeable lag at all. PS5 and FTVS are both connected to the router via Ethernet.

Now for the downside: The Share, Options, PS, and Touchpad button are not working correctly. When pressing the PS button, you are being thrown to the FTVSs main menu. The Share button leads you back to Chiakiīs settings. And the Options and Touchpad buttons are doing nothing at all. Iím wondering whether these buttons can be remapped somehow. I found this thread where people seem to have similar issues with some buttons: https://github.com/thestr4ng3r/chiaki/issues/169.

Even the author of Chiaki states:
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The following features however are yet to be implemented:
Touchpad support (Triggering the Touchpad Button is currently possible from the keyboard though)
https://reposhub.com/cpp/miscellaneous/thestr4ng3r-chiaki.html

Just in case anyone else wants to give it a shot, here is my current setup: I used this Amazon Fire TV Stick 4K MAX, this USB Hub and this OTG cable.

For the installation process I sideloaded Chiaki (current version is V 2.1.1) like described in this YouTube video.

I downloaded Chiaki from its original source:

Chiaki - Open Source PlayStation Remote Play (metallic)
https://git.sr.ht/~thestr4ng3r/chiaki/
https://git.sr.ht/~thestr4ng3r/chiaki/refs/download/v2.1.1/Chiaki-v2.1.1-Android.apk
Here is a shortened URL for easily putting it in the FTVSs Downloader App: https://bit.ly/3Ed5Ypi

The script for getting your Account ID: https://git.sr.ht/~thestr4ng3r/chiaki/blob/master/scripts/psn-account-id.py (File --> Save As). As Iím on a Windows machine, I downloaded the ďWindows installer (64-bit)Ē version of Python:
https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3100/

After registering the console with Chiaka (entering the account ID and linking the device to the PS5) you are good to go. Just in terms of saving bandwidth, I set the resolution for the stream in Chiaki to 360p.
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Re: How to play all PS5 games over Remote Play
« Reply #194 on: 06:14 PM - 12/01/21 »
I have a similar set up as someone mentioned earlier with the fire stick, except Iím using the NVIDIA Shield. XIM connected straight to the Shield. Iím able to get the dual sense controller working however when I move my mouse I get the purple flashing. I tried lowering to 250hz and that doesnít seem to work either. The controller is working perfect but the mouse is causing the XIM APEX to flash. Any ideas?
« Last Edit: 06:31 PM - 12/01/21 by theoriginalkar »


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