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1440p on the PS5 - Will It Happen?
« on: 09:22 AM - 01/12/21 »
Hello fellow gaming nerds,

So I haven't been lucky enough to get a PS5 yet, but I'm hoping to get one when it's back in stock. Right now, there are a lot of great January deals so I decided to look for a monitor exclusively for when I get the PS5. The thing is, I know I will regret it a lot if I go for a 120hz+ screen that only support 1080p, if Sony decides to implement 1440p later on.

Coming from gaming on PC, 1080p feel kind of unplayable and not very satisfying. Hopefully Sony will implement it sooner or later.

I know a 4k 120hz monitor would be a safe choice, but if I can save the extra money I'd favor it. Also, I'll mainly be playing FPS shooters, so I don't really need a 4k monitor as I prefer performance over 4k.

Suggestions, ideas and thoughts are highly appreciated!

Take care,
Stan

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Re: 1440p on the PS5 - Will It Happen?
« Reply #1 on: 02:45 PM - 01/12/21 »
1080p 144Hz panel is your safe bet if you are into performance on consoles and higher fps is your priority on multiplayer games.

My toys:
My PC: 1440p 165Hz Gsync Hardware Module.
PS5 OLED TV 4K 120Hz + PS5
PS4 with a 1080p 60Hz IPS gaming monitor.

High resolution and fantastic image detail has its place for campaign, single player, cinematic, simulator games experiences only, on MP Shooters you don't appreciated or needed.

I choose frame-rate over resolution, any day. Yes is pretty nice to have nice sharp high-res graphics but honestly the wow factor goes away as you get used to.

For me only a robust variable refresh rate technology is more important than high fps, for smooth gameplay and low input lag.

Playstation need to deliver and fix VRR support first. HDMI 2.1 adoption has been lack luster on last year TV's and AV Receivers.

I believe official 1440p it might come in a year or so, depending on XBS adoption results.

So, for a long run and future prove high fps for Competitive MP: 1080p is your safest path.

I assume you have a PS5 already, if not a XBS S/X might be a wiser route, 1440p support and 100% XIM support.

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Re: 1440p on the PS5 - Will It Happen?
« Reply #2 on: 04:22 PM - 01/12/21 »
1440p will happen after Sony's 4K HDTV sales plateau following the PS5 launch. Give it 6 months or so, PS5 will come to the 1440p party.

You will 100% be disappointed with a 1080p screen moving forward. 4K for desktop gaming is serious overkill at the cost of HDD storage and framerate. 1440p is the porridge that's just right for gaming.

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Re: 1440p on the PS5 - Will It Happen?
« Reply #3 on: 05:10 AM - 01/13/21 »
Thanks guys, both replies are much appreciated.

I'll probably try to find a decent 1440p 120hz+ monitor. 120hz on 1440p doesn't require HDMI 2.1, right? Right now I'm using a 1080p 144hz 1 ms monitor with a TN panel. Am I completely wrong if I believe TN panels are the better choice for FPS shooters? Or should I look for IPS and VA monitors as well?

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Re: 1440p on the PS5 - Will It Happen?
« Reply #4 on: 07:27 AM - 01/13/21 »
Correct. 1440p @ 120Hz works over HDMI 2.0.

Be aware that many 1440p monitors with high refresh rates don't support VRR at 120Hz. That's currently not a problem for PS5 as it doesn't have VRR, but it is an issue for Series X. The console may be locked at 60Hz without 120Hz VRR support. VRR can be disabled, but it's better to buy a screen with 120Hz support.

I bought a Dell S2721DGF 27" IPS QHD HDR 165 Hz (DP) LED Gaming Monitor for console gaming. It works great with my existing HDMI 2 setup on Series X and I get 1440p @ 120Hz with VRR.

No PS5 yet, but I'd prefer 1080p 120FPS over 4K 30FPS on PS5 any day of the week...at least until 1440p is supported.

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Re: 1440p on the PS5 - Will It Happen?
« Reply #5 on: 08:50 AM - 01/13/21 »
Correct. 1440p @ 120Hz works over HDMI 2.0.

Be aware that many 1440p monitors with high refresh rates don't support VRR at 120Hz. That's currently not a problem for PS5 as it doesn't have VRR, but it is an issue for Series X. The console may be locked at 60Hz without 120Hz VRR support. VRR can be disabled, but it's better to buy a screen with 120Hz support.

I bought a Dell S2721DGF 27" IPS QHD HDR 165 Hz (DP) LED Gaming Monitor for console gaming. It works great with my existing HDMI 2 setup on Series X and I get 1440p @ 120Hz with VRR.

No PS5 yet, but I'd prefer 1080p 120FPS over 4K 30FPS on PS5 any day of the week...at least until 1440p is supported.

God there's a lot of screen on those Dell monitors! No bezels at all. That's so insane compared to my current one, which is a Lenovo G24-10 24".

Sadly, the stock on many of the Dell monitors here in Denmark are pretty much non existing so I continued looking and found this gem:

https://www.elgiganten.dk/product/182555/?itm_source=incito&itm_campaign=Uge_02_2021&itm_medium=incito_product_link&itm_content=182555

IPS panel
1 ms response time
160hz
1440p
HDMI 2.0

$494 in total.

There's also plenty of screen on this one compared to my current one but it's definitely not as bezelfree as the one you have.

This might be a good deal, right? I have no idea which specs I have to be aware of except the ones I mentioned above.

Also, sorry for posting a Danish link.

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Re: 1440p on the PS5 - Will It Happen?
« Reply #6 on: 08:55 AM - 01/13/21 »
I just realized that it says '1 ms response time in overdrive condition'.

You have any idea what this means? Because I really don't.

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Re: 1440p on the PS5 - Will It Happen?
« Reply #7 on: 10:29 PM - 01/13/21 »
You'll want to research if that screen supports VRR at 120Hz on Xbox One X or Xbox Series X (PS5 will support the same specs).

There's a list of supported screens on Reddit (do a quick Google search). If it's not on that list, do not buy! VRR is important because consoles can't maintain a perfect 120FPS. Without VRR, there will be screen-tearing and dropped frames.

Don't worry at all about 1ms response time, it's a meaningless stat for the time it takes a pixel to change from one shade of grey to another (affects blur and not much else). I think the Dell is 4ms GtG...again, it means nothing.

What you want to find is the input or display lag, which will be around 12-16ms for most screens. The fastest screens on earth can only do 8ms.

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Re: 1440p on the PS5 - Will It Happen?
« Reply #8 on: 03:59 AM - 01/14/21 »
I just realized that it says '1 ms response time in overdrive condition'.

You have any idea what this means? Because I really don't.

In short its a technique where they improve the time an LED needs to change its colour. It sounds nice but can cause visual issues such as over/undershooting ghosting when your overdrive setting doesnt match the framerate.
Recently monitors started to offer intelligent overdrive features where the monitor will adjust the overdrive setting based on the input framerate to avoid this.

in the following picture you can see such an overdrive issue, the left side of the Ufo has a white "halo" around it. For reference, the Ufo moves from the left to the right:

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Re: 1440p on the PS5 - Will It Happen?
« Reply #9 on: 05:56 AM - 01/14/21 »
Thanks guys!

I've been looking specifically for VRR screens but VRR is never listed or named in the specifications list. So I did some research and came to the conclusion that VRR and FreeSync/Nvidia G-sync are the same? The one I posted above is Nvidia G-sync compatible.

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Re: 1440p on the PS5 - Will It Happen?
« Reply #10 on: 06:11 AM - 01/14/21 »
VRR is the name of the HDMI 2.1 feature that basically does the same as G-Sync and FreeSync. Though to my understanding VRR is not as advanced as the other two. So if you want VRR for the PS5 or new Xbox consoles then make sure to get an HDMI 2.1 monitor. Those will primarily come out in Q1 or Q2 this year.
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Re: 1440p on the PS5 - Will It Happen?
« Reply #11 on: 11:43 AM - 01/14/21 »
I'll be looking for a decent monitor that supports HDMI 2.1 then. Thanks, again.