Ps5 & xim apex compatibility

[sheryip]

So far it really seems to be a mistery. However i heard xim has no plans of releasing a xim 5. So in case it has no compatibility there is not so much hope we get a new device.

They did not post anything on the forums about this.

[OBsIV]

Any changes that will be needed to support next gen consoles (if possible) will be firmware related. As mentioned, Xbox Series is looking promising given their commitment to backwards and forward compatibility. PS5 is still a big unknown.

[ThisGuy]

Article from PlayStation themselves, here is the link. Don’t know if it helps any, but I figured any info is better then none.

 https://support.playstation.com/s/article/backward-compatibility?language=en_US&lan=


Compatible controllers on PS5 consoles
The DualSense™ wireless controller, DUALSHOCK™4 wireless controller and PlayStation officially licensed third-party gamepad controllers will work on PS5 consoles with supported PS4 games.

Specialty peripherals, such as officially licensed racing wheels, arcade sticks, and flight sticks, will work with PS5 games and supported PS4 games.
Both the PS Move Motion Controller and the PlayStation VR Aim Controller will work with supported PS VR games on PS5 consoles.

For the best experience, use a DUALSHOCK 4 wireless controller when playing PS4 games and PS VR games on a PS5 console.
PS5 games are not compatible with the DUALSHOCK 4 wireless controller.
To adjust the strength of controller vibration on PS5 consoles, go to Settings > Accessories > Controllers > Vibration Intensity.

The Platinum and Gold Wireless Headsets, as well as third-party headsets that connect via USB port or audio jack, will work on PS5 consoles (the headset companion app is not compatible with PS5 consoles).

[Od1n]

Specialty peripherals, such as officially licensed racing wheels, arcade sticks, and flight sticks, will work with PS5 games and supported PS4 games.

This is new for me, thanks for sharing!

[ceebs]

Yeah, I read that article too.

Looks as though authentication with a DS4 will be good, as the DualShock will work with PS4 games on the PS5. The problem lies in any PS5 games that have in-game features that are synced with Dualsense features. If haptic feedback doesn't work, you'll lose (for example) the ability to feel what type of terrain your driving through. Not a game changer, but if adaptive trigger failure means you can only shoot a bow at 100% velocity (or not at all) then that could break the game.

As always, we'll have to see what happens when XIM Tech get their hands on the console and some Dualsense enabled games.

[AgentSmith]

Oh of course. I have no doubt you will find a way considering you were able to make XIM Edge work w/PS4 when it was created for PS3.

Edit:
Just found this.. This should be interesting.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-08-20-deathloop-blocks-the-ps5-dualsense-controller-triggers-when-your-weapon-jams?fbclid=IwAR0CeQS4gt9Ncw7ZBx2MRp5avpWg3ZfrV8zeyLLUGaf4RoRfgG97W8QrMnU

Also according to Reddit they are also working on a feature where depending on how far you pull the trigger could be used as an "Alt Fire".  I guess that would have to be worked out as well or they need an option to disable it (or you are just stuck with always firing "alt fire")

That alt fire idea is already in some games, it is used for holding breath while sniping so full trigger is ADS only but to hold breath you only pull the trigger half way in Ghost recon breakpoint,   and in Sniper Elite 4 the quick aim 3rd person aim for the sniper is a half trigger pull on ADS.

IF it becomes wide spread we will be needing a similar setup to the way we can use buttons to do right stick and vary the sensitivity by something like the walk button.

[SIXRIP7ER]

The dualsense 5 is being reported as incompatible with the pc and i have seen numerous videos where people cant connect to pc via Bluetooth or cable, would this indicate that the xim might not be compatible as well or it is independent of pc connection.

[facade]

Oh of course. I have no doubt you will find a way considering you were able to make XIM Edge work w/PS4 when it was created for PS3.

Edit:
Just found this.. This should be interesting.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-08-20-deathloop-blocks-the-ps5-dualsense-controller-triggers-when-your-weapon-jams?fbclid=IwAR0CeQS4gt9Ncw7ZBx2MRp5avpWg3ZfrV8zeyLLUGaf4RoRfgG97W8QrMnU

Also according to Reddit they are also working on a feature where depending on how far you pull the trigger could be used as an "Alt Fire".  I guess that would have to be worked out as well or they need an option to disable it (or you are just stuck with always firing "alt fire")

That alt fire idea is already in some games, it is used for holding breath while sniping so full trigger is ADS only but to hold breath you only pull the trigger half way in Ghost recon breakpoint,   and in Sniper Elite 4 the quick aim 3rd person aim for the sniper is a half trigger pull on ADS.

IF it becomes wide spread we will be needing a similar setup to the way we can use buttons to do right stick and vary the sensitivity by something like the walk button.

Oh I know it's not new, the MGS series has been able to do that for years for both the shoulder buttons & face buttons. it just appears the console itself really wants to make a push on the feature.

[Cith]

The dualsense 5 is being reported as incompatible with the pc and i have seen numerous videos where people cant connect to pc via Bluetooth or cable, would this indicate that the xim might not be compatible as well or it is independent of pc connection.

I've seen a few videos where the dualsense was working with no issues on PC (wired).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfZ6yLeC1OI look at the 6 minute mark.

[OBsIV]

I've seen a few videos where the dualsense was working with no issues on PC (wired).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfZ6yLeC1OI look at the 6 minute mark.

Thanks. What we are looking for is the new authentication protocol which will only occur when connected directly to a PS5.

[ragenrok]

I've seen a few videos where the dualsense was working with no issues on PC (wired).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfZ6yLeC1OI look at the 6 minute mark.

Thanks. What we are looking for is the new authentication protocol which will only occur when connected directly to a PS5.

Possibly silly question but wouldn't using it on the remote play app allow you to test this early? Just curious lol. Really hoping it all goes well and that you can also get it to work on the xim 4, love my xim 4 and really don't want to replace it.

[OBsIV]

Yes, assuming remote play works like xCloud (i.e. goes through a PC) then yes, it'll work. But, it wouldn't tell us what a direct connection would look like.

[ItZ_Me_Not_You]

DualSense And DualShock 4 Can Be Use For PS4 Games On PS5

https://www.psu.com/news/ps4-games-ps5-dualsense-dualshock/

[facade]

I've seen a few videos where the dualsense was working with no issues on PC (wired).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfZ6yLeC1OI look at the 6 minute mark.

Thanks. What we are looking for is the new authentication protocol which will only occur when connected directly to a PS5.

Possibly silly question but wouldn't using it on the remote play app allow you to test this early? Just curious lol. Really hoping it all goes well and that you can also get it to work on the xim 4, love my xim 4 and really don't want to replace it.

I couldn't get the XIM Apex to work on PS4 remote play. the app doesn't see the controller unless it's straight into the PC

[ThisGuy]

Speaking of PS4 remote play there is a guy on YouTube (Mystic) who just made a video showing ps5 dualsense working for PS4 remote play. So I would guess Authentication is close to the same, hopefully.