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Need a small clarification from Mist
« on: 03:12 PM - 11/01/19 »
I am currently playing MW 2019 using the official ST. I adjust the ADS sensitivity so as to maintain the exact hip:ADS ratio as using a controller so that I don't have to use a ADS delay, and the HIP to ADS transition is perfect (same as using a single translator).
The problem with this method is that the ADS sensitivity turns out to be too slow, but I had to get used to it. I didn't like the 'smooth aim transition' feature.
BO4 and MW offer the option of using x2 ADS multiplier, and I would like to use that feature, but in the settings guide for BO4 it was recommended to use x1, does this also apply to MW?
Will using x2 ADS hamper the mouse tracking, and is there any way to counteract that?

Thank you.


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Re: Need a small clarification from Mist
« Reply #1 on: 09:34 PM - 11/01/19 »
I do know that mist4fun always uses default values and will specify otherwise. I'll follow up with him.
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Re: Need a small clarification from Mist
« Reply #2 on: 12:58 AM - 11/02/19 »
IMO it should have been trained on 2.00.. the turn speed for ads is double when using 2.00

You can test this with an analog stick.. peg your stick while ads or scoped with the ads or scope value on 1.00.. you will move twice as fast when pegging the stick at 2.00

Your just playing with a lower turn cap using 1.00.. low turn cap is a bad thing

I recommend playing on 2.00 until mist can take a look at it

I also question why it wasnt trained on the linear response curve?? But idk

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Re: Need a small clarification from Mist
« Reply #3 on: 01:09 AM - 11/02/19 »
Thanks Obs1V, I will await a response.
This method of using low ADS sensitivity also hampers the ability to turn around 180.
I use up more than half of my mouse pad space getting out of ADS while turning, and then there isn't much space left to complete my 180.

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Re: Need a small clarification from Mist
« Reply #4 on: 08:14 AM - 11/02/19 »
When you set to 2.0 ADS does it feel right?
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Re: Need a small clarification from Mist
« Reply #5 on: 08:23 AM - 11/02/19 »
Yes, it feels alright, also the HIP>ADS transition is flawless. Any multiplier less than 1 seems to increase the sticky aim though.

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Re: Need a small clarification from Mist
« Reply #6 on: 08:24 AM - 11/02/19 »
I asked mist. I'll let you know.
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Re: Need a small clarification from Mist
« Reply #7 on: 08:59 AM - 11/02/19 »
Thanks Obs, much appreciated

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Re: Need a small clarification from Mist
« Reply #8 on: 10:58 AM - 11/02/19 »

Your just playing with a lower turn cap using 1.00.. low turn cap is a bad thing


I agree, but I don't hit the ADS turn cap even at x1, so that's not a problem. But x2 allows me to have higher ADS turn speed while maintaining a perfect HIP : ADS ratio. But I'll Just wait for a word from OBS/ Mist to see if it does more harm than good.

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Re: Need a small clarification from Mist
« Reply #9 on: 04:56 PM - 11/02/19 »
how are you achieving this ? Do you get rid of ads in the xim app?

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Re: Need a small clarification from Mist
« Reply #10 on: 10:30 PM - 11/02/19 »
This would be nice, i can't find a comfortable ADS delay / smooth aim transition combo ever...also my loadouts are always changing. I tried to do no ADS config like i do on Apex legends, and R6, but it is EXTREMELY slow, there is a delay in-place, and the x/y ratio feels like 2.0.

I love the feel of no ADS profile more than anything, hopefully we can get a solution

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Re: Need a small clarification from Mist
« Reply #11 on: 11:01 PM - 11/02/19 »
mist4fun is going to retrain ADS at x2.
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Re: Need a small clarification from Mist
« Reply #12 on: 11:06 PM - 11/02/19 »
Nice!  Always good to have some more turn speed!
Thx for keeping us updated :)

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Re: Need a small clarification from Mist
« Reply #13 on: 01:43 AM - 11/03/19 »
how are you achieving this ? Do you get rid of ads in the xim app?
I adjust the ADS sensitivity (Using ADS translator) to be of same velocity as playing with ADS config disabled.
Basically I go to a private match, assign Turn assist to a key (For both Hip and ADS translator) on keyboard and set it to toggle. Assign ADS translator activation (Not the ADS activation button) to another button on keyboard. I then start spinning around (Preferably in perfect X axis) using turn assist. Activate the ADS translator by pressing the corresponding button on keyboard, and keep adjusting the ADS sensitivity until you Hip and ADS turn velocities are the same. If you spin at a slower speed, it will allow for better fine tuning. This way I use both the HIP and ADS translators and have perfect HIP>ADS transition.
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Re: Need a small clarification from Mist
« Reply #14 on: 03:39 AM - 11/03/19 »
mist4fun is going to retrain ADS at x2.

Thanks OBS, in MW the max turn speed is achieved using x2, but in BO4, although the ADS multiplier goes right upto x4, the max turn speed is at x1, and remains same upto x4.