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Re: Rainbow Six Siege - Controller curve
« Reply #90 on: 01:17 AM - 07/10/19 »
Any update? Mist? Od1n?

I've been checking this forum like 10x a day in anticipation :)

Same with me dude lol

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Re: Rainbow Six Siege - Controller curve
« Reply #91 on: 02:20 PM - 07/10/19 »
mist will share the infos, hes the one looking into the matter :)
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Re: Rainbow Six Siege - Controller curve
« Reply #92 on: 04:15 PM - 07/10/19 »
Must be a complicated problem. The patch has been live for 2 weeks.

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Re: Rainbow Six Siege - Controller curve
« Reply #93 on: 08:40 PM - 07/10/19 »
Looks like they just updated the new ST to classic curve.. so basically reverted the changes back to the old ST..

 So now we got to deal with the acceleration again.  New ST felt fine on xbox.

All that hype and waiting for the new aiming system for nothing.. feelsbadman

I’m out at the moment.

Are you saying there’s a new ST out? Or are you just speculating? Nothing has been posted about this on the forum. The ST's don't include any guidance information in regards to what settings to use, it's all accompanied by a forum post that details how to setup the game. Therefore I'm not sure how an ST update alone would be enough to tell you it requires the original aiming setting?
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Re: Rainbow Six Siege - Controller curve
« Reply #94 on: 09:22 PM - 07/10/19 »
Looks like they just updated the new ST to classic curve.. so basically reverted the changes back to the old ST..

 So now we got to deal with the acceleration again.  New ST felt fine on xbox.

All that hype and waiting for the new aiming system for nothing.. feelsbadman

Iím out at the moment.

Are you saying thereís a new ST out? Or are you just speculating? Nothing has been posted about this on the forum. The ST's don't include any guidance information in regards to what settings to use, it's all accompanied by a forum post that details how to setup the game. Therefore I'm not sure how an ST update alone would be enough to tell you it requires the original aiming setting?

Yes new ST is out 4.5 and we are required to use classic.. tested for couple of runs on TH.. I need to test it more on casual before playing it on ranked
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Re: Rainbow Six Siege - Controller curve
« Reply #95 on: 09:32 PM - 07/10/19 »
How do you know you need to use it on classic though? Maybe my memory of this is hazy but aren't settings recommendations usually made in the forum? I don't recall any settings guidance in the app itself.

I'm also interested in hearing from Mist - is this just the 4.3 ST or has he taken the opportunity to retrain the classic one?

(btw you should never test anything in Terrorist Hunt. It runs at 30fps or variable without vsync so it's just not a good basis for any sort of comparison, I always create a custom game to test ST's)


EDIT: oh I see they have updated the settings page. I was only paying attention to the ST ďLATESTĒ post.
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Re: Rainbow Six Siege - Controller curve
« Reply #96 on: 09:46 PM - 07/10/19 »
Should turn vsync off anyway if you have a monitor that supports a refresh rate higher then rainbow puts out. vsync is terrible.. if you dont have screen tearing... dont use vsync.. vsync=input lag .. your aim will be much snappier without it
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Re: Rainbow Six Siege - Controller curve
« Reply #97 on: 09:53 PM - 07/10/19 »
I totally forgot Xbox has freesync support now.
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Re: Rainbow Six Siege - Controller curve
« Reply #98 on: 09:57 PM - 07/10/19 »
Che? .. why isnt the new st with the updated controller settings? Im disapointed.
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Re: Rainbow Six Siege - Controller curve
« Reply #99 on: 11:08 PM - 07/10/19 »
And rainbow has an option in the settings to turn off vsync. Only xbox shooter I know of that gives you the option to disable it

I know. Xboxís freesync support is being wasted. Microsoft should really incentivize devs to support unlocked frame rates and the ability to disable vsync (and even frame rate caps if you have a low refresh rate freesync monitor). That would make the Xbox so much more compelling compared to ps4.
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Re: Rainbow Six Siege - Controller curve
« Reply #100 on: 12:29 AM - 07/11/19 »
First impressions - I'm fairly certain this is the 4.3 ST, not a retraining of the classic setting.

To justify reverting back, I assume Mist has uncovered some serious flaw in the new mechanic, something that simply can't be overcome with an ST.

I'm disappointed in Ubi, but happy that my XIM now works again. I was seriously bumbed out with the new one as micro was unusable for me with the pixel skipping. It was almost as if my mouse lens was covered in dust (which it isn't!). 
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Re: Rainbow Six Siege - Controller curve
« Reply #101 on: 05:14 AM - 07/11/19 »
Is this new ST actually the old ST, pre-update v1.68?

Or is it a new ST trained on the Classic setting?

Still have no idea what the difference is between the Classic and Updated settings? Do they both still have time based acceleration?

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« Reply #102 on: 05:16 AM - 07/11/19 »
Is this new ST actually the old ST, pre-update v1.68?

Or is it a new ST trained on the Classic setting?

Iím wondering the same too. The feeling I have right now is itís 4.3.
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Re: Rainbow Six Siege - Controller curve
« Reply #103 on: 05:18 AM - 07/11/19 »
Is this new ST actually the old ST, pre-update v1.68?

Or is it a new ST trained on the Classic setting?

Iím wondering the same too. The feeling I have right now is itís 4.3.

I'm not at home at the mo. Does this new ST feel better than the ST pre-update v1.68?

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« Reply #104 on: 05:23 AM - 07/11/19 »
So hard to say.

Iíve been testing 4.3, 4.4, 4.5, and playing on pc a lot. My brain is so confused right now. My instinct is to say itís identical to 4.3. Itís a simple rollback.
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