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Re: Mice can't poll 1000hz on Console [TEST]
« Reply #15 on: 10:12 PM - 06/21/19 »
Ive reas that 1000 mouse and 500 xim dosnt make a difference as apossed to 500 mouse 50p xim is that true ?
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Re: Mice can't poll 1000hz on Console [TEST]
« Reply #16 on: 11:05 PM - 06/21/19 »

Now that I'm running my xim apex as a Xim 4 I use 1000 Hz on my mouse. Just as I did with my Xim 4. My mouse polls around the same as yours. It doesn't output a consistent 1000 hz.  Yet it's smooth, fast and accurate. There are no inconsistencies in my aiming behavior that i can visually see even though I'm not polling at 1000 Hz consistently. And even though I'm not polling at 1000 Hz consistently my response time is way faster than 2ms. It may not be a spot on 1ms response time, but it's not slower than 2ms. So to all caught up on numbers I wouldn't even worry about the data.

You seem a little confused, if your running your xim apex as a xim 4 at 125hz even though your mouse is polling at 1000hz your console is only recieving the 125hz you have the xim set to.  So you response time is not "way faster" than the 2ms (500hz),  it's actually slower at 8ms (125hz).
Do you think Xim polling and mouse polling are the same thing????? If you do you need to do some research because you're the one that's confused. The only way my mouse will poll at 125 Hz is if I set it to 125 hz. My mouse will report my movements at a 1ms refresh rate even if my xim is set to 125 hz so as long as it is set to 1000 hz and my mouse can actually poll at 1000 Hz. My xim can be set to any polling rate so as long as it's not higher than the polling rate of my mouse.

If you think Xim polling and mouse polling are the same. Then you're basically saying that I can set my xim to 250 hz and my mouse to 125hz and even though my mouse is at 125 Hz (8ms response time) then I have a 4ms response time just because my xim is set to 250 hz. That's not possible.

Let me see if I can explain this in a way you can understand it.  Your mouse is reporting position every 1ms (1000hz) to the xim.  Every 8ms (125hz) the xim will takes the newest report from the mouse and reports the position to your console.  Therefore your report rate for the mouse to the console is 8ms (125hz).  Perfomance is identical to if you have your mouse set to 125hz.  Setting the mouse to a higher polling rate is fine, as the xim will just take the newest data, setting the mouse lower then the xim will cause an increase in delay, so I wouldn't recommend that.  Hope that helps.

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Re: Mice can't poll 1000hz on Console [TEST]
« Reply #17 on: 11:23 PM - 06/21/19 »

Now that I'm running my xim apex as a Xim 4 I use 1000 Hz on my mouse. Just as I did with my Xim 4. My mouse polls around the same as yours. It doesn't output a consistent 1000 hz.  Yet it's smooth, fast and accurate. There are no inconsistencies in my aiming behavior that i can visually see even though I'm not polling at 1000 Hz consistently. And even though I'm not polling at 1000 Hz consistently my response time is way faster than 2ms. It may not be a spot on 1ms response time, but it's not slower than 2ms. So to all caught up on numbers I wouldn't even worry about the data.

You seem a little confused, if your running your xim apex as a xim 4 at 125hz even though your mouse is polling at 1000hz your console is only recieving the 125hz you have the xim set to.  So you response time is not "way faster" than the 2ms (500hz),  it's actually slower at 8ms (125hz).
Do you think Xim polling and mouse polling are the same thing????? If you do you need to do some research because you're the one that's confused. The only way my mouse will poll at 125 Hz is if I set it to 125 hz. My mouse will report my movements at a 1ms refresh rate even if my xim is set to 125 hz so as long as it is set to 1000 hz and my mouse can actually poll at 1000 Hz. My xim can be set to any polling rate so as long as it's not higher than the polling rate of my mouse.

If you think Xim polling and mouse polling are the same. Then you're basically saying that I can set my xim to 250 hz and my mouse to 125hz and even though my mouse is at 125 Hz (8ms response time) then I have a 4ms response time just because my xim is set to 250 hz. That's not possible.

Let me see if I can explain this in a way you can understand it.  Your mouse is reporting position every 1ms (1000hz) to the xim.  Every 8ms (125hz) the xim will takes the newest report from the mouse and reports the position to your console.  Therefore your report rate for the mouse to the console is 8ms (125hz).  Perfomance is identical to if you have your mouse set to 125hz.  Setting the mouse to a higher polling rate is fine, as the xim will just take the newest data, setting the mouse lower then the xim will cause an increase in delay, so I wouldn't recommend that.  Hope that helps.
I know this. I've been doing this for a long time. This topic is about the polling rate of the mouse and the mouse not being able to poll at 1000 hz consistently. So how am I confused about what I'm doing with my Xim? I don't understand your purpose for your response to my message. You've basically stated what I've already said.

The person that made this topic knew I was talking about the response time of my mouse. Not the polling rate that is being reported to my console through my xim. I set my mouse to 1000 hz instead of 125 hz because I don't want my mouse to report it's position to my xim every 8ms. I want it to be as close to 1ms as possible while using xim 4 settings on my apex. I think you're the one that's confused here and want to be right about something that wasn't wrong in the first place.
« Last Edit: 12:15 AM - 06/22/19 by GamingNerd »
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Re: Mice can't poll 1000hz on Console [TEST]
« Reply #18 on: 12:25 AM - 06/22/19 »
Ive reas that 1000 mouse and 500 xim dosnt make a difference as apossed to 500 mouse 50p xim is that true ?
That is true. But, that's because you can't tell the difference between 1000 hz and 500 hz so you may as well set the xim and mouse the same. Also, if you choose to use 500 hz on the xim you wouldn't be able to use 125hz or 250hz on the mouse successfully. But, let's say you want to use the xim at 250 hz (4ms response time). You could set your mouse to 500hz or 1000hz to have the mouse report its position at a faster speed. I've read where the xim will prioritize what it needs and won't use anything more than the 250 hz that it's set to.

But, to me it feels sharper when I use 250 hz and 1000 hz polling vs 250 hz on my xim and mouse as well. My movements don't feel as if they have a delay on lower polling rates using 1000 hz. It could be a placebo but I don't know. It doesn't feel that way. In the past i have use 250 Hz on both to increase AA but then some one said we could use a higher polling. When I tried it it felt a lot sharper.
« Last Edit: 03:58 AM - 06/22/19 by GamingNerd »
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Re: Mice can't poll 1000hz on Console [TEST]
« Reply #19 on: 11:13 AM - 06/22/19 »

Now that I'm running my xim apex as a Xim 4 I use 1000 Hz on my mouse. Just as I did with my Xim 4. My mouse polls around the same as yours. It doesn't output a consistent 1000 hz.  Yet it's smooth, fast and accurate. There are no inconsistencies in my aiming behavior that i can visually see even though I'm not polling at 1000 Hz consistently. And even though I'm not polling at 1000 Hz consistently my response time is way faster than 2ms. It may not be a spot on 1ms response time, but it's not slower than 2ms. So to all caught up on numbers I wouldn't even worry about the data.

You seem a little confused, if your running your xim apex as a xim 4 at 125hz even though your mouse is polling at 1000hz your console is only recieving the 125hz you have the xim set to.  So you response time is not "way faster" than the 2ms (500hz),  it's actually slower at 8ms (125hz).
Do you think Xim polling and mouse polling are the same thing????? If you do you need to do some research because you're the one that's confused. The only way my mouse will poll at 125 Hz is if I set it to 125 hz. My mouse will report my movements at a 1ms refresh rate even if my xim is set to 125 hz so as long as it is set to 1000 hz and my mouse can actually poll at 1000 Hz. My xim can be set to any polling rate so as long as it's not higher than the polling rate of my mouse.

If you think Xim polling and mouse polling are the same. Then you're basically saying that I can set my xim to 250 hz and my mouse to 125hz and even though my mouse is at 125 Hz (8ms response time) then I have a 4ms response time just because my xim is set to 250 hz. That's not possible.

Let me see if I can explain this in a way you can understand it.  Your mouse is reporting position every 1ms (1000hz) to the xim.  Every 8ms (125hz) the xim will takes the newest report from the mouse and reports the position to your console.  Therefore your report rate for the mouse to the console is 8ms (125hz).  Perfomance is identical to if you have your mouse set to 125hz.  Setting the mouse to a higher polling rate is fine, as the xim will just take the newest data, setting the mouse lower then the xim will cause an increase in delay, so I wouldn't recommend that.  Hope that helps.
I know this. I've been doing this for a long time. I think you're the one that's confused here and want to be right about something that wasn't wrong in the first place.

Ok buddy, just trying to help you out, no need to be so defensive.  Lol.  How dare I try to help the almighty gamingnerd!

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Re: Mice can't poll 1000hz on Console [TEST]
« Reply #20 on: 03:24 PM - 06/22/19 »

Now that I'm running my xim apex as a Xim 4 I use 1000 Hz on my mouse. Just as I did with my Xim 4. My mouse polls around the same as yours. It doesn't output a consistent 1000 hz.  Yet it's smooth, fast and accurate. There are no inconsistencies in my aiming behavior that i can visually see even though I'm not polling at 1000 Hz consistently. And even though I'm not polling at 1000 Hz consistently my response time is way faster than 2ms. It may not be a spot on 1ms response time, but it's not slower than 2ms. So to all caught up on numbers I wouldn't even worry about the data.

You seem a little confused, if your running your xim apex as a xim 4 at 125hz even though your mouse is polling at 1000hz your console is only recieving the 125hz you have the xim set to.  So you response time is not "way faster" than the 2ms (500hz),  it's actually slower at 8ms (125hz).
Do you think Xim polling and mouse polling are the same thing????? If you do you need to do some research because you're the one that's confused. The only way my mouse will poll at 125 Hz is if I set it to 125 hz. My mouse will report my movements at a 1ms refresh rate even if my xim is set to 125 hz so as long as it is set to 1000 hz and my mouse can actually poll at 1000 Hz. My xim can be set to any polling rate so as long as it's not higher than the polling rate of my mouse.

If you think Xim polling and mouse polling are the same. Then you're basically saying that I can set my xim to 250 hz and my mouse to 125hz and even though my mouse is at 125 Hz (8ms response time) then I have a 4ms response time just because my xim is set to 250 hz. That's not possible.

Let me see if I can explain this in a way you can understand it.  Your mouse is reporting position every 1ms (1000hz) to the xim.  Every 8ms (125hz) the xim will takes the newest report from the mouse and reports the position to your console.  Therefore your report rate for the mouse to the console is 8ms (125hz).  Perfomance is identical to if you have your mouse set to 125hz.  Setting the mouse to a higher polling rate is fine, as the xim will just take the newest data, setting the mouse lower then the xim will cause an increase in delay, so I wouldn't recommend that.  Hope that helps.
I know this. I've been doing this for a long time. I think you're the one that's confused here and want to be right about something that wasn't wrong in the first place.

Ok buddy, just trying to help you out, no need to be so defensive.  Lol.  How dare I try to help the almighty gamingnerd!
Seems like your the one being offended in this circumstance by this statement alone. All I was trying to get you to understand is that I know what is going on and help you in return. I know that the xim is filtering what is needed from the 1000 Hz polling. But the mouse just feels more responsive and less delayed to me when I use 1k instead of 125 Hz. And if it is a placebo okay. But I've tried both and 125 Hz on the mouse with the apex in Xim 4 mode doesn't feel right. That's all I'm saying. I know I don't know everything. To this day I still ask questions.
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Re: Mice can't poll 1000hz on Console [TEST]
« Reply #21 on: 08:04 AM - 06/23/19 »
xim:500 and mouse:1000
xim:500 and mouse:500

which is better?
 


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Re: Mice can't poll 1000hz on Console [TEST]
« Reply #23 on: 05:56 PM - 06/23/19 »
xim:500 and mouse:1000
xim:500 and mouse:500

which is better?
500/500 no need to use 500/1000 because it would just feel the same. You can use it if you want to though. It really wouldn't matter. Using 1000 hz on your mouse would just make the mouse more responsive at 500 hz as someone has already stated.
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Re: Mice can't poll 1000hz on Console [TEST]
« Reply #25 on: 03:24 AM - 06/25/19 »
xim:500 and mouse:1000
xim:500 and mouse:500

which is better?
It should be the same (unless the mouse is unstable at 500Hz).

I leave mine at 500/1000 so there's less mucking around if I want to go 1000/1000.

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Re: Mice can't poll 1000hz on Console [TEST]
« Reply #26 on: 03:17 AM - 10/06/20 »
I just read this entire thread and I have to say these admins are actually brain dead lol A bunch of casual players that don't mind the flaws that happen in game lmfao As long as the device works they think it's "perfect". He said he plays his xim apex with it default at 125hz and his mouse at 1000hz and said "it's as responsive as 2ms". lmfaooooo what an idiot! Yo whatever you're doing (whoever made this thread) make a youtube video. I'd love to watch it and try to better understand what you're saying, even though I'm already understanding everything you're saying. Admins are a bunch of casuals, so I can't trust anything they say. They're like game devs. Game devs deliver the game, we buy it, then say it's garbage/broken (MW) while they say it's "good". I remember when bo4 had an update and EVERYBODY was complaining after they released a xim update for the game, so we came here to ask what they changed after the update and they said "we didn't change anything"... Again I can't trust these admins/moderators so do me a solid and update that youtube video for me please!