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Re: *NEW* Astro A40/A50 TR + MixAmp - Best EQ Presets
« Reply #120 on: 02:29 PM - 11/02/19 »
Awesome man. You are like a connoisseur - love the descriptions haha. I placed an order for a mayflower and will probably pickup the audio technicas. With just those two pieces I would be set, correct?

No problem  ;), thanks!

I just check and the ATH-ADG1X are on sale at $224 usd on Amazon, that's a good deal. They come with a Y adapter, to split a headphone male and mic male to connect it to the ARC or PC.

Is a bit too long for me, I got these:



I got many questions in my inbox about:
How can I know if my headset is precise for footsteps detection?
Is Surround best for know sound positioning?
There is a test to try my current headphones/headset performance for sound whoring?


Sound imaging is the characteristic that determinate how precise a headphone/headset is so you can know where the sound cues are coming from.

I invite you to run this test with your current audio setup, try it on Surround ON and then Stereo Only.

If you have it only on stereo and you are having trouble to detect the sound sources positioning and movement, well with any of the bundles I suggest earlier it will be a huge improvement, you will know sound positioning effortlessly.

Sound Imaging Test:

If you have an earbuds from your phone, try it them...
WARNING: don't get mad at me if the earbuds are more precise than the A40's,
- you are in the Matrix Neo... in the audio gaming matrix, I just try to wake you up.

« Last Edit: 02:48 PM - 11/02/19 by alanmcgregor »

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Re: *NEW* Astro A40/A50 TR + MixAmp - Best EQ Presets
« Reply #121 on: 12:49 AM - 11/05/19 »
Sweet I bought them and the Mayflower. Not sure how long the Mayflower order will take. Great thing about being an adult... can by Christmas whenever you want :D :D :D

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Re: *NEW* Astro A40/A50 TR + MixAmp - Best EQ Presets
« Reply #122 on: 09:28 PM - 11/05/19 »
Sweet I bought them and the Mayflower. Not sure how long the Mayflower order will take. Great thing about being an adult... can by Christmas whenever you want :D :D :D

Awesome!

Embrace yourself for a life changing experience.  :D ;D

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Re: *NEW* Astro A40/A50 TR + MixAmp - Best EQ Presets
« Reply #123 on: 01:54 AM - 11/06/19 »
Haha can't wait. I'll prob come back to you with some setup questions (for PS4) once I get it.

One thing I'm curious to try with it is ASMR haha. It's not something I listen to often but it does kind of work for me when I do. Music too obv.

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Re: *NEW* Astro A40/A50 TR + MixAmp - Best EQ Presets
« Reply #124 on: 10:55 AM - 11/06/19 »
Pretty easy to setup:
  • Back of the ARC move the switch to the PS option,
  • Connect the ARC to a USB port on your PS4,
  • Turn ARC knob to power on and to the desire amount of volume, done.
The DPS button is a god-bless feature delivers a sweet tune bass boost that doesn't distort at all, great for music or immersive campaign games.

Binaural ASMR is a whole new experience with audiophile grade phones. After work, I crash in my sofa put my HifiMan HE-4XX on, hear some ASMR for relax does wonders is like a massage for my brain.

The amplification of the ARC is really good, very clean and powerful while maintaining neutral output. Is more efficient than the Sound Blaster X7, where I had to turn the volume up to 80% and a hiss (noise floor) is very noticeable. I though my unit was defective, return it and got a new X7 but it was the same.

Not the same on the ARC, where I got the volume I like only at 45%, no noise floor or hiss. I raised even to 100% none, nothing.

About its DAC performance. The fidelity was outstanding for what you are paying for. Movies sounds like on the theater, very crisp and detail; where on the X7 sounds "colored" compressed and equalized no matter if is in direct mode, not as resolving and less detail.

I might notice this because my ears are used to high end audio amplifiers. When I moved to consoles and decided to get better audio for gaming, tried the X7 which does a lot of things right (flexibility and options) but one thing wrong/lacking which is sound delivery and that's kind of ironical.

At the end, is nice to have an audiophile headphone amplifier, tailor and handmade from audiophile engineers for gamers in mind, plus a remarkable 10 years warranty.

Worth mention, the Mic input reproduce full vocal range meaning it picks up from lows to highs. Many mics (mostly low end) only picks ups lows, these type of mics sounds "tinny" on the ARC. Is not the case of the Audio-Techincas on the ADG1X or Beyerdynamic MMX300 both are high performance full range mics. Although ARC has a mic pass-through so you can connect your mic to another device if you need it.
« Last Edit: 08:36 PM - 11/06/19 by alanmcgregor »

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Re: *NEW* Astro A40/A50 TR + MixAmp - Best EQ Presets
« Reply #125 on: 10:09 PM - 11/12/19 »
Bros I'm a noon how do I get a Allen's presets? I have a 5 year old set of A50?
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Re: *NEW* Astro A40/A50 TR + MixAmp - Best EQ Presets
« Reply #126 on: 07:30 PM - 11/17/19 »
anyone tired beyerdynamic mmx 300 2nd gen with the astro tac? how is it. thinking about picking one up

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Re: *NEW* Astro A40/A50 TR + MixAmp - Best EQ Presets
« Reply #127 on: 01:09 PM - 11/20/19 »
Pretty easy to setup:
  • Back of the ARC move the switch to the PS option,
  • Connect the ARC to a USB port on your PS4,
  • Turn ARC knob to power on and to the desire amount of volume, done.
The DPS button is a god-bless feature delivers a sweet tune bass boost that doesn't distort at all, great for music or immersive campaign games.

Binaural ASMR is a whole new experience with audiophile grade phones. After work, I crash in my sofa put my HifiMan HE-4XX on, hear some ASMR for relax does wonders is like a massage for my brain.

The amplification of the ARC is really good, very clean and powerful while maintaining neutral output. Is more efficient than the Sound Blaster X7, where I had to turn the volume up to 80% and a hiss (noise floor) is very noticeable. I though my unit was defective, return it and got a new X7 but it was the same.

Not the same on the ARC, where I got the volume I like only at 45%, no noise floor or hiss. I raised even to 100% none, nothing.

About its DAC performance. The fidelity was outstanding for what you are paying for. Movies sounds like on the theater, very crisp and detail; where on the X7 sounds "colored" compressed and equalized no matter if is in direct mode, not as resolving and less detail.

I might notice this because my ears are used to high end audio amplifiers. When I moved to consoles and decided to get better audio for gaming, tried the X7 which does a lot of things right (flexibility and options) but one thing wrong/lacking which is sound delivery and that's kind of ironical.

At the end, is nice to have an audiophile headphone amplifier, tailor and handmade from audiophile engineers for gamers in mind, plus a remarkable 10 years warranty.

Worth mention, the Mic input reproduce full vocal range meaning it picks up from lows to highs. Many mics (mostly low end) only picks ups lows, these type of mics sounds "tinny" on the ARC. Is not the case of the Audio-Techincas on the ADG1X or Beyerdynamic MMX300 both are high performance full range mics. Although ARC has a mic pass-through so you can connect your mic to another device if you need it.

just ordered an arc  :D Can't wait to try it out with my GSP 600. Prolly will be in the market for new can soon. Thanks for getting me into a new gadget addiction  ;D

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Re: *NEW* Astro A40/A50 TR + MixAmp - Best EQ Presets
« Reply #128 on: 04:13 PM - 11/20/19 »
Pretty easy to setup:
  • Back of the ARC move the switch to the PS option,
  • Connect the ARC to a USB port on your PS4,
  • Turn ARC knob to power on and to the desire amount of volume, done.
The DPS button is a god-bless feature delivers a sweet tune bass boost that doesn't distort at all, great for music or immersive campaign games.

Hi Alan,

My Arc has arrived! I've got my audio technica plugged in and everything is ready! I have to run out the door to work tho. I was just wondering is it possible to do custom audio settings with the ARC live all these that you have listed for the A40/Mixamp (tournament, etc.)?

Binaural ASMR is a whole new experience with audiophile grade phones. After work, I crash in my sofa put my HifiMan HE-4XX on, hear some ASMR for relax does wonders is like a massage for my brain.

The amplification of the ARC is really good, very clean and powerful while maintaining neutral output. Is more efficient than the Sound Blaster X7, where I had to turn the volume up to 80% and a hiss (noise floor) is very noticeable. I though my unit was defective, return it and got a new X7 but it was the same.

Not the same on the ARC, where I got the volume I like only at 45%, no noise floor or hiss. I raised even to 100% none, nothing.

About its DAC performance. The fidelity was outstanding for what you are paying for. Movies sounds like on the theater, very crisp and detail; where on the X7 sounds "colored" compressed and equalized no matter if is in direct mode, not as resolving and less detail.

I might notice this because my ears are used to high end audio amplifiers. When I moved to consoles and decided to get better audio for gaming, tried the X7 which does a lot of things right (flexibility and options) but one thing wrong/lacking which is sound delivery and that's kind of ironical.

At the end, is nice to have an audiophile headphone amplifier, tailor and handmade from audiophile engineers for gamers in mind, plus a remarkable 10 years warranty.

Worth mention, the Mic input reproduce full vocal range meaning it picks up from lows to highs. Many mics (mostly low end) only picks ups lows, these type of mics sounds "tinny" on the ARC. Is not the case of the Audio-Techincas on the ADG1X or Beyerdynamic MMX300 both are high performance full range mics. Although ARC has a mic pass-through so you can connect your mic to another device if you need it.

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Re: *NEW* Astro A40/A50 TR + MixAmp - Best EQ Presets
« Reply #129 on: 09:27 PM - 11/20/19 »
just ordered an arc  :D Can't wait to try it out with my GSP 600. Prolly will be in the market for new can soon. Thanks for getting me into a new gadget addiction  ;D
Hehehe Enjoy!,  ;D you have already a stand-out gaming headset, Arc improves its already good sound imaging (exact position of the sound cues in your FoV and behind).

There is a lot of more options now compare when I started. Is incredible how affordable decent amplifier is currently. Back in the day you will spent at least, $900 for a decent headphone amp, crossing your fingers hoping that was worth the money. I got many disappointments.

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Hi Alan,

My Arc has arrived! I've got my audio technica plugged in and everything is ready!

Awesome, congrats for your new acquisition. Arc will revolve your audio as XIM did it with console gaming.

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I have to run out the door to work tho. I was just wondering is it possible to do custom audio settings with the ARC live all these that you have listed for the A40/Mixamp (tournament, etc.)?

In short: you don't need any of those, your headphones signature is the EQ.

OK, this is the thing... even though Astro MixAmp has a place in my heart, is not my intention sound harsh but being brutally honest.

Astro MixAmp EQ presets (factory and the ones I share here) are made to make the A40 Headset sound better, without the MixAmp the A40 headsets sounds like crap cheap $30 headphones: muddy muffled bass, recess middle and absent treble.

The MixAmp DAC and its EQ presets are making artificially sound "good". Just like we use ballistic curves to change our aiming with XIM, EQ are trying to enhance some sound frequency response.

Like the OmniVox and Tournament etc -which are specifically design for A40 cans-, what these do is remove the bass, highlight or raise the midrange and low treble because these are the frequency where the enemies footsteps, reload and callouts are, improving sound whoring over sound quality.

The Potara (Daredevil) are EQ presets specifically for certain headphones from A40's to HD600, DT990 pros and other power hungry audiophile headphones. The issue is, MixAmp can't drive these because doesn't deliver enough power. You can add an external amplifier but this distort the already artificial sound output.

In essence, you shouldn't rely on EQ; your headphones frequency response ("how they sound") should be the only thing you need.

The reason behind this is not a purist argument, is more about performance and fidelity.

Per example, You have a 720p picture, now if you enlarge this image to see it more of its tiny details like a small face, if you do it on software (audio EQ) and resize up to 3x bigger, color artifacts, blur and big pixels might appear and  picture will be bigger but its overall quality highly diminish. Now, instead if you have a 2160p or 4K image take it from a 4K camera (your headphones frequency response) then you can zoom in to see all details on its true form, without distortion. That is the best analogy I can think of, but visually nothing wrong really happens it's just an ugly image, but sound wise... you cannot position the sound or even bad distortion can pierce your eardrums.

So, if you want treble go for a "bright" Headphone like the DT880, DT990 or ATH-AD900X, ATH-ADG1X, if you want bass ATH-M50/50x, want best Midrange? go Sennheiser HD600 series etc.

We need basically two things:
WIDE dynamic range to hear all the details in the sound and how fast it changes,
Sound Imaging to ping point, sound cues position precisely all these is the job of the Arc(DAC/Amp) and your headset takes advantage of it.

For gaming is recommended a headphone with very present midrange (footsteps, callouts), crisp fast treble (some footsteps, reloading) and decent bass (explosions). The ATH-ADG1x has recess bass, very forward and strong midrange (footsteps), crisp treble and a wide Sound-Stage (to estimate spatial sound sources and distances) due the open or airy design of the drivers.

Headphones are like Mice, you have to find which will suit your comfort and your hearing... and that's why all the audio fans have more than one headphone, you can go deep in the rabbit hole... the good news is what ever headphone you want to try, the Arc will make it sound at its best.
« Last Edit: 03:03 PM - 11/21/19 by alanmcgregor »

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Re: *NEW* Astro A40/A50 TR + MixAmp - Best EQ Presets
« Reply #130 on: 12:06 AM - 11/22/19 »
Ah that makes sense! And kind of glad I don't have to play around with settings actually haha. Loving the setup so far - thanks so much for your advicE!!

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Re: *NEW* Astro A40/A50 TR + MixAmp - Best EQ Presets
« Reply #131 on: 10:46 AM - 11/22/19 »
Anytime, thanks for your confidence.

Yeah, I love the simplicity of the Arc, no drivers no hassle.

... that DSP button (Bass boost) makes any open-back sound like a very clean pumping bassy headphone.

Audio listening It's an excellent side hobby, for stress relief you might end up wanting to hear all your music collection and appreciated in an new way.
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Re: *NEW* Astro A40/A50 TR + MixAmp - Best EQ Presets
« Reply #132 on: 04:31 PM - 11/22/19 »
what is the best way to use the arc for xbox one x?

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« Reply #133 on: 07:35 PM - 11/22/19 »
what is the best way to use the arc for xbox one x?

As you might know Xbox has a limited audio compatibility. The Arc works with Xbox One, cable clutter is more messy.

Roughly, you need two adapters:
  • Y adapter that separate Headphone and Speakers (1 Male - 2 Female).
  • Y adapter for stereo audio output  (1 Male - 2 Female).
And a pair of Male to Male 3.5 mm extensions.

Xbox One Setup


Connect SPDIF OUT of XB1 to the SPDIF IN of the Arc
Connect the Y adapter - Headphone and Speakers (1 Male - 2 Female) to XB1 Controller.
Connect a 3.5mm male-to-male extension from the Arc (Mic Output) to the Headphone plug of the Y adapter from above.
Connect the Y Stereo adapter (1 Male - 2 Female) to the Arc Headphone Output.
Connect your Headphones to one end of the Y Stereo adapter.
Connect a 3.5mm male-to-male extension to the other end of the Y Stereo adapter, and the other other plug to the Speaker female Y adapter that is plug at the XB1 Controller.
Connect your Mic to the Arc Mic input.
Done.


At your XB1 audio settings to output the highest quality to the ARC:
1. Open the guide (scroll left from Home)
2. Select Settings
3. Select All Settings
4. Select Display & Sound
5. Select Audio Output
6. Under Speaker audio, select Optical audio and change the setting to Stereo
Uncompressed


And that's it.  ;D
« Last Edit: 08:32 PM - 11/22/19 by alanmcgregor »

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« Reply #134 on: 09:30 AM - 11/23/19 »
could i use the astro mixamp 2019 edition with the setup?  i hate wires that go into my controller for the arc