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Black Ops 4 is the worst Treyarch game and as bad if not worse than IW and WW2  (Read 4286 times)

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The way you describe it seems like ppl make their decisions in life based on if they had enough of COD or not? I dunno about that though..


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This game is life. Servers suck, but the game is amazing. Best cod in a very long time.


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Strongest aim assist out of all the cod series. They tried changing and fixing @#$% that wasnít broken. Most of the maps were remastered maps, the servers are garbage still. Spawns are hot @#$%, the hit detection is bad, new maps are meh, none of them stand out. Terrible weapon balancing and operator balancing. Itís clear to me they didnít really put any time into the MP, but spent all their time on blackout.

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Maps get boring rather fast- is my main summary. And ofcourse connection inconsistency. Because of how small the maps are, youre allways in the same places/rooms etc. It gets boring fast. Im prestige 1 level 6 or smth and didnt play since then cause i have no desire to.

With BO3, 2 weeks after release I was still enjoying the game and played whenever I had spare time. You think about maps like Red Wood, Breach, Hunted, Infection, Stronghold, Havoc, Exodus, Evac- they never get boring to me, I could even play them now. I could play them for 15 hours (playilist with those maps) and not get bored. In BO4 I couldnt say this about any map so far. In fact I wish I could play BO4 on BO3 maps but with BO4 boots on the ground gameplay.

To be fair- I will say that bo4 is definitely better than WW2 and IW in my personal oppinion. But its not as good and addicting as BO3 was in my book.
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Itís not just the games that get boring people, itís going to happen with everything in life, from what Iíve realized lol

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Maps get boring rather fast- is my main summary. And ofcourse connection inconsistency. Because of how small the maps are, youre allways in the same places/rooms etc. It gets boring fast. Im prestige 1 level 6 or smth and didnt play since then cause i have no desire to.

With BO3, 2 weeks after release I was still enjoying the game and played whenever I had spare time. You think about maps like Red Wood, Breach, Hunted, Infection, Stronghold, Havoc, Exodus, Evac- they never get boring to me, I could even play them now. I could play them for 15 hours (playilist with those maps) and not get bored. In BO4 I couldnt say this about any map so far. In fact I wish I could play BO4 on BO3 maps but with BO4 boots on the ground gameplay.

To be fair- I will say that bo4 is definitely better than WW2 and IW in my personal oppinion. But its not as good and addicting as BO3 was in my book.

Then you like some really simple samey three lane maps. One of the things that make BO4 maps better than the past three entries is that they actually try to make the maps more multilayered. Morocco could have easily fit in with the MW2 set.

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Then you like some really simple samey three lane maps. One of the things that make BO4 maps better than the past three entries is that they actually try to make the maps more multilayered.
which is a big mistake imo. BO4 maps have way too many routes and sublanes, which only inhibits gameflow. Those maps play a lot slower and don't provide the level of Head to Head Combat of well designed 3 lane maps (Combine, Fringe, Infection, Stronghold).

Instead, most maps have OP camping/ Headglitching spots where anyone can aim the whole map without even entering a risk

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I liked the game, a nice change of phase (coming from Battlefield). I prefer multiplayer over Blackout due its poor network performance I going to shelf it, until they fix it...

besides... my 8 years waiting ends in a few hours.

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Man, ya'll are some whiney players. I just had a 70 kill game with a rushing class (Only perk was Scavenger).

The maps are fine.

The weapon balance is fine.

The specialists are fine.

The spawns are broke.

But it's mostly a really good COD. The best COD since BO2, and probably 2nd best COD ever.

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Then you like some really simple samey three lane maps. One of the things that make BO4 maps better than the past three entries is that they actually try to make the maps more multilayered.
which is a big mistake imo. BO4 maps have way too many routes and sublanes, which only inhibits gameflow. Those maps play a lot slower and don't provide the level of Head to Head Combat of well designed 3 lane maps (Combine, Fringe, Infection, Stronghold).

Instead, most maps have OP camping/ Headglitching spots where anyone can aim the whole map without even entering a risk

If anything I'm having the opposite experience. The simple 3 lane maps of BO3 slowed the pace to a crawl with most matches just deteriorating into head glitch standoffs and Black Ops 3 is tied with Ghosts for one of the campiest CODs. Infection is the absolute epitome of this (unless you play FFA). Those simple maps made it easier for campers to control their spots.

BO4 is much faster paced and it's easier to flank around and surprise campers. Campers don't last long on the newer maps, though some of the classic maps suffer in this regard. It's nice to be able to have maps where you can play mind games with people again, versus the more recent COD style maps where the only time maps play a role in combat is the headglitch spots.

But at the very core of it it's nice to have a different style of maps. The beta gave the worst offenders of Treyarch style symmetrical simple 3 lane maps and I was worried that it was going to be another year of the exact same maps we got the past three entries. I'm glad they are more varied as it's like a breath of fresh air.

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These guys complaining that in bo4 there is too many places someone can come out of , you would rather have someone come out from the foocking sky????? Lol you gotta watch out the sky for flying people on top of the pathways 😂😂😂😂 you guys are something else

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I find the directions ppl are gonna come from and spawns too predictable, to the point where its becoming boring rly fast.

When you have more flank routes like wallrunning routes etc. it makes the game less predictable and less boring imo. You think about Red Wood- ppl can swim through the river and flank you or wallrun on the tree side, or go through the middle or waterbridge on the left or tree-bridge on the right... On maps like Firing Range, Slums, Summit, Jungle, Icebreaker, Church map from Beta, Tropic Map from Beta etc. I know exactly where somebodys gonna come from. Id say like 90% of the maps I know where to expect ppl to come from, which makes it boring. Unless ofcourse the spawns flip unexpectedly, but thats about it in terms of element of surprise.

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Itís real simple

There are 15 cod games, every year thereís a bunch of people arguing that this one is finally good, it isnít. Theyíre trolls. Itís just  as bad as the past 11 games. Theyíre designed to piss you off so you buy the next one. Even the people saying this one is good are raging while playing.
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Ofcourse they do. Nobodys gonna get fooled that easily. I bet they even rage more than BO3 or WW2. At least WW2 didnt have BS gimmicks and operator specials. And in BO3 the specials were mostly balanced.

You compare that one Pulse Vision girl that only had pulse vision for her and the swipes were rather limited in distance and slow- now the same special shows the whole map to your whole team multiple times.

Id say BO3 specials were balanced for the most part with very few exceptions. YOu look at BO4- theres nothing more annoying than the guy with the shield and pistol. If he camps in front of the enemy teams spawn and the spawn doesnt flip, theres nothing to counter him. Even his sides are protected way too good. And some clown who claimed in this thread that you can shoot at his feet probably was stupid or smth. If the shield guy crouches, you cant shoot his feet.

You look at the dog, absolutely op. You look at the noob tube operator special- extremely op, damage radius is way too big. Rector core- absolutely annoying etc. etc.

If you spend your points on countering most of the BS in the game, youre gonna have too weak primary weapon.

Fact is, the operator specials and other equippment and gadgets is extremely overpowered and annoying to play against. Maps are too predictable and small overall, this way you allways know where theyre gonna spawn next and can just camp in ADS waiting for them to show themselves.

Let me break these maps down to the essentials- you just get to the middle and hold the center position of the map. Then you just stay there and wait for the enemy, once the spawn flips, you turn around and expect them to come from the other side. Best example- Slums, Summit, Icebreaker, Firing Range, Morocoo, Seaside, Hacienda, Arsenal- basically like 80-90% of the maps. You just stay in the center and preaim one of 3 lanes where enemies are gonna come from. Thats it. Thats how boring it is. You just pick off spawning enemies from the center of the map, no need to move alot, just hold the power position in the middle.
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I don't have a problem with the Specialists, it's part of the power fantasy. Destiny does the same thing with classes.

Your average player is going to pop their special once a game. A good player might do it twice. A fantastic player on a huge killstreak may crack it three times. That's all part of the fun and it rewards good gameplay. Sure, getting your teeth kicked in with little chance to counter happens (rockets, grenades and mines all work), but we get to return the favour.

If you want realism, play Siege. If you want gritty boots on the ground, play Battlefield. If you want team work and counterplay, go with Overwatch. CoD is what is it is, and what it is, for the most part, is mindless fun.
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