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Black Ops 4 is the worst Treyarch game and as bad if not worse than IW and WW2  (Read 4296 times)

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Oh another reason why Call of Duty is failing and Treyarch is out of touch - THE EXISTANCE OF BLACKOUT.

Just the fact that they had to make this gamemode shows that they know the Multiplayer is terrible.

If the multiplayer was on the same level as MW2, MW3 etc. , they could have easiely released the game with JUST multiplayer and zombies, give free maps on monthly basis to all ppl who purchased and fill the game up with microtransactions such as outfits, voices, camos, things that make the guns look and sound different etc.

Why do all these companies think that in order to beat Fortnite they have to copy it ? Battle royale is a joke, but a PvP like the one talked above would defiantly have a chance of competing with Fortnite.

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Oh another reason why Call of Duty is failing and Treyarch is out of touch - THE EXISTANCE OF BLACKOUT.

Just the fact that they had to make this gamemode shows that they know the Multiplayer is terrible.

If the multiplayer was on the same level as MW2, MW3 etc. , they could have easiely released the game with JUST multiplayer and zombies, give free maps on monthly basis to all ppl who purchased and fill the game up with microtransactions such as outfits, voices, camos, things that make the guns look and sound different etc.

Why do all these companies think that in order to beat Fortnite they have to copy it ? Battle royale is a joke, but a PvP like the one talked above would defiantly have a chance of competing with Fortnite.

Exactly. They should only have MP. Not even zombies. Just MP with only 1 game mode: Domination. We can spawn trap people all night. That's how COD was meant to be played. They are out of touch, and the millions of people who play Blackout are just paid shills.

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Exactly. They should only have MP. Not even zombies. Just MP with only 1 game mode: Domination. We can spawn trap people all night. That's how COD was meant to be played. They are out of touch, and the millions of people who play Blackout are just paid shills.
Also, no strafing. And enemies that can't shoot bullets.

Click the button that looks like a slider in MP, then Add Bots. Recruit bots. Perfect. Old school CoD, the way it was meant to be played.
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As soon as I made this post they released a hotfix that ruined it.
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Xim made me a God at Infinite Warfare, and now it's doing the same thing on Black Ops 4. Stop crying and get better at COD.

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So...because BO4 MP is not a shooting gallery, it's complete trash?

I never liked CoD MP precisely because it was mind-numbingly dull to run around shooting at opponents with the defensive capacity of a paper cut-out. Shoot'em in the toe...dead. Get shot it the finger...dead. Skillful aim meant nothing, except for sh!ts and giggles. Fast reactions meant nothing due to lag compensation, so it didn't matter if you were more skillful, you got punished for having a better internet connection. Every engagement was a lottery.

Please explain the part about how BO4 is the more casual title with manual healing and higher TTK? You can't just ape around and your KD's no longer 5+ so the game sucks, did I get that right? Blackout's a more hardcore mode than anything CoD has done before, that's definitely not targeted at casuals.

The only other CoD game this generation (I haven't played WWII yet) that I found remotely enjoyable is BO3. CoD has traditionally been little more than a twitch shooter where the first guy to pull the trigger wins. Level up your gear and the power gap increased substantially for vets over noobs. At least in BO4, the noobs have a fighting chance to bag some kills with a decent weapon right out of the gate.

Every criticism thrown at BO4 can be applied to earlier titles. Bad spawns, poor netcode, casual gameplay, unbalanced weapons, OP killstreaks, poor map design, strong AA...we hear it every year! I get that AA is strong, but it's been strong in every console CoD, so I don't consider it a factor given everyone can use and abuse it. Don't like it? Turn it off and make the game less casual.

The gaming industry is progressive - if you want the same dull crap year after year, CoD has been the go-to franchise for a decade. That's manifested in both declining sales and franchise fatigue, which is exactly what you're describing.

At least this year Treyarch has tried something new in Blackout, along with mixing up the game mechanics in MP. That has attracted a whole new audience to the franchise that otherwise wouldn't have touched the game, myself included. But it comes at the cost of alienating core fans. They're tired of the same thing year-in, year-out, so you can't have it both ways.

You knew what you were getting yourselves into with BO4, you played the beta. Without the changes to core CoD gameplay, BO4 would be another generic brown shooter in a long chain of generic brown shooters that fanboys just can't help but buy, then complain endlessly about. If you don't like the games, why do you keep spending your money on them?

Good post Anti.
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Treyarch sucks and is highly overrated. What else is new? Map design has been poo since 2. Spawns have sucked since WaW. COD4 felt like a team game because it had proper team spawning. Treyarch games have always had that poo poo free for all spawns that spawn you in empty locations fukin up the flow of the game.

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It's been confirmed  on YouTube

Bo4 MP and blackout servers are running at 20hz

But both the beta's were running at 60hz

Cool now I know why I played so  well on the beta and now im just trash on the full game with all the @#$% gun fights I get into

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Xim made me a God at Infinite Warfare, and now it's doing the same thing on Black Ops 4. Stop crying and get better at COD.

Haha yeah mouse on IW felt fully like PC

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It's been confirmed  on YouTube

Bo4 MP and blackout servers are running at 20hz

But both the beta's were running at 60hz

Cool now I know why I played so  well on the beta and now im just trash on the full game with all the @#$% gun fights I get into

Its not just because of the poor connection at 20hz. Ppl just also figured out the most cheesy and lame weapons and ways to play. Which is to headglitching in ADS at one of 24 million headglitch spots.

Ppl also figured out the lamest and cheesiest specialists and are now abusing them, like the Shield running guy with the pistol, the overpowered Noobtube launcher, the stationary Shield specialist, Wallhack vision for the whole team and so on.

Again with such small maps and rather fast pace, it doesnt really make sense to move in this game. Unless you move from one power spot to the next, where you can pick off ppl from distance. I mean go play kill confirmed on Firing Range, Jungle, Summit etc. Ppl just sit in power spots that is usually somewhere in the middle of the map and just camp there Aiming Down Sights.

On top of that they introduced the specialist with the tactical respawn location, what a dumb idea that was. You have small maps already, fast pace- which contributes to clusterF-ish spawn already. BUt then on top of that they put a mobile respawn point into a specialist class.. Like how dumb are they tbh.

The ammount of gimmicky BS in this game that kills you is at record level high. I think even IW had less gimmicky trash gadgets and specialists that killed you. Well maybe not IW now that I think about it, but certainly most other CODs in the last years.

This game is designed to be a kill trading game for low skilled players mostly, where everyone gets a few gifted kills from Specialist and Equippment and other BS, so that they dont get frustrated when they get wrecked by more skilled players in previous COD games with higher skill gap. BO3 is in every way better than BO4, the specials were more balanced and everything else basically. And the maps werent complete dog crap, like boring small open maps with 3 lanes. You can tell they didnt have that much time really to make bo4, so they just copy pasted 4 old maps and the rest are some half axxed rushed maps, mostly open area and some few buildings in the middle and around the map, like that Icebreaker map, Contraband, Hacienda etc.

Also fast reflexes and good aim dont really matter that much in this game. See 3arc and activision dont want pubstompers to flank a team of nerds and spray down 4-5 of them at once. Theyd rather give all Timmy Nothumbses a ton of HP and make them like a tank, almost like Juggernaut suit from MW3. So that now the pubstompers cant wipe the whole team of incapable and unskilled noobs with reflexes of a Turtle. On the contrary- Activision now gives every gimp a ton of Aim Assist, so that you dont even have to be good at aiming and still can kill some sick Pubstomper, whod otherwise wipe the floor with all these noobs in previous CODs.

As said before- this is the most dumbed down and simplified/noobified COD, a Sloth could pick up a controller and do well in this game. Its the biggest "participation medal" game ever for unskilled and untalanted and reflex-less gimps, you just get kills and rewards for beeing in the game, even if youre doing nothing or sucking really hard.

I guess thats how you get those morons to play a game and spend money on it these days. You give them participation medals and trophies for doing absolutely nothing, and you stroke their retard-ego by giving them freekills and other rewards.. Absolutely disgusting tbh.

Overwatch and other hero based games at least require skill to do well, although they also have specials in the game. But BO4? Its a disgusting, hideous noob fest pile of Dog Sheet.

 Imean if thats the direction that COD is heading, you can truly forget this franchise for good. If theres no skill gap and learning curve, but only stupid mindless kill trading, with all sorts of gadgets and BS specials- what sense does it make to play it? Its a goony, mindless and almost retarded activity to kill free time, if theres barely any skill gap or learning curve etc.

"Oh hey guys, lets make everyone like Optic Scumpy, where they barely miss a shot with such a buck ton of Aim Assist. And lets also give everyone a stupid gadget and special to get freekills with. That will make all the gimps want to buy the game and spend money... (/retarded Activision manager voice)". Thats how these imbecile Activision managers think these days.
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It's been confirmed  on YouTube

Bo4 MP and blackout servers are running at 20hz

But both the beta's were running at 60hz

Cool now I know why I played so  well on the beta and now im just trash on the full game with all the @#$% gun fights I get into

Its not just because of the poor connection at 20hz. Ppl just also figured out the most cheesy and lame weapons and ways to play. Which is to headglitching in ADS at one of 24 million headglitch spots.

Ppl also figured out the lamest and cheesiest specialists and are now abusing them, like the Shield running guy with the pistol, the overpowered Noobtube launcher, the stationary Shield specialist, Wallhack vision for the whole team and so on.

Again with such small maps and rather fast pace, it doesnt really make sense to move in this game. Unless you move from one power spot to the next, where you can pick off ppl from distance. I mean go play kill confirmed on Firing Range, Jungle, Summit etc. Ppl just sit in power spots that is usually somewhere in the middle of the map and just camp there Aiming Down Sights.

On top of that they introduced the specialist with the tactical respawn location, what a dumb idea that was. You have small maps already, fast pace- which contributes to clusterF-ish spawn already. BUt then on top of that they put a mobile respawn point into a specialist class.. Like how dumb are they tbh.

The ammount of gimmicky BS in this game that kills you is at record level high. I think even IW had less gimmicky trash gadgets and specialists that killed you. Well maybe not IW now that I think about it, but certainly most other CODs in the last years.

This game is designed to be a kill trading game for low skilled players mostly, where everyone gets a few gifted kills from Specialist and Equippment and other BS, so that they dont get frustrated when they get wrecked by more skilled players in previous COD games with higher skill gap. BO3 is in every way better than BO4, the specials were more balanced and everything else basically. And the maps werent complete dog crap, like boring small open maps with 3 lanes. You can tell they didnt have that much time really to make bo4, so they just copy pasted 4 old maps and the rest are some half axxed rushed maps, mostly open area and some few buildings in the middle and around the map, like that Icebreaker map, Contraband, Hacienda etc.

Also fast reflexes and good aim dont really matter that much in this game. See 3arc and activision dont want pubstompers to flank a team of nerds and spray down 4-5 of them at once. Theyd rather give all Timmy Nothumbses a ton of HP and make them like a tank, almost like Juggernaut suit from MW3. So that now the pubstompers cant wipe the whole team of incapable and unskilled noobs with reflexes of a Turtle. On the contrary- Activision now gives every gimp a ton of Aim Assist, so that you dont even have to be good at aiming and still can kill some sick Pubstomper, whod otherwise wipe the floor with all these noobs in previous CODs.

As said before- this is the most dumbed down and simplified/noobified COD, a Sloth could pick up a controller and do well in this game. Its the biggest "participation medal" game ever for unskilled and untalanted and reflex-less gimps, you just get kills and rewards for beeing in the game, even if youre doing nothing or sucking really hard.

I guess thats how you get those morons to play a game and spend money on it these days. You give them participation medals and trophies for doing absolutely nothing, and you stroke their retard-ego by giving them freekills and other rewards.. Absolutely disgusting tbh.

Overwatch and other hero based games at least require skill to do well, although they also have specials in the game. But BO4? Its a disgusting, hideous noob fest pile of Dog Sheet.

 Imean if thats the direction that COD is heading, you can truly forget this franchise for good. If theres no skill gap and learning curve, but only stupid mindless kill trading, with all sorts of gadgets and BS specials- what sense does it make to play it? Its a goony, mindless and almost retarded activity to kill free time, if theres barely any skill gap or learning curve etc.

"Oh hey guys, lets make everyone like Optic Scumpy, where they barely miss a shot with such a buck ton of Aim Assist. And lets also give everyone a stupid gadget and special to get freekills with. That will make all the gimps want to buy the game and spend money... (/retarded Activision manager voice)". Thats how these imbecile Activision managers think these days.

You are so FK'ING right it's not even funny!!


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Maybe if Souver spent as much time getting good as he spends ranting about BO4, hed actually like it better.
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I mean not only do noobs get sickest ammounts of aim assist, as if this wasnt enough- NO, 3arc also makes hitboxes on player models like effin elefants..

https://www.reddit.com/r/Blackops4/comments/9q422g/20hz_tickrate_isnt_the_only_issue_wtf_are_these/


Hahahahaha... ok.

And as far as some ppl saying that: "well the game is ok, only connection is bad etc.". I mean- isnt the connection the most essential thing? If the connections bad, everything else doesnt matter, because youre not gonna enjoy the game with terrible connection and hitreg.

Heres what I had to deal with previously: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxYeoMhquSw
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