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12000 DPI Vs 3200 DPI
« on: 01:05 AM - 10/17/18 »
Good morning guys
am using Logitech G502 mouse and Sony Controller

i watch all the tutorial videos about DPI
also see that on the tutorials beleive that dpi below 4000 works better with PS4 and Xim

BUT what i see through our community  the most of the peoples are using full 12000 DPI

and i am wondering

so what are the benefits of using 12000 dpi over 3200   
and which of them working better with FPS games like COD, BF, Fortnite ???

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Re: 12000 DPI Vs 3200 DPI
« Reply #1 on: 01:15 AM - 10/17/18 »
Neither would have an effect on stats. So just go by feel. Id probably avoid 12k on cloth though. The safer bet is usually 3.2k

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Re: 12000 DPI Vs 3200 DPI
« Reply #2 on: 01:23 AM - 10/17/18 »
On Xim Apex, you can pretty much run the full DPI gamette from 400 to 16K DPI if using a higher response rate than 125Hz. The DPI value itself is less important than the quality of the mouse sensor.

Typically, you'd want an Optical sensor from Pixart (3310, 3360 series), or Logitech's Hero sensor. You'll find Pixart sensors in almost all gaming mice from the last 2-3 years and they're considered native at all resolutions. If a mouse can pull 12K DPI, it should be good with a Xim, regardless of brand.

What you don't want is a cheap office mouse with a max of 400 or 800 DPI because it will perform very poorly for gaming. However, a 12K or 16K gaming mouse won't have any problems using a lower DPI.

The things to look out for are jitter at very high DPI and stutter at very low DPI. That's why we tend to recommend from 3-4K DPI as a happy medium where you're unlikely to experience mouse sensor issues.

To add to that, DPI can affect a game's aim assist. High DPI makes it easier to cut through AA into the hitbox, low DPI makes AA feel stickier, but at the risk of being stuck outside the hitbox. It's a personal preference whether you prefer more or less AA.
« Last Edit: 02:55 PM - 10/17/18 by antithesis »

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Re: 12000 DPI Vs 3200 DPI
« Reply #3 on: 03:25 AM - 10/17/18 »
I use 12K DPI on a Cloth Pad with NO PROBLEMS .. I was using 4K DPI for Fortnite but I canít use 4K DPI on COD the AA is just to iffy itís honestly personal preference but when Iím on Low Dpi I have trouble with AA so I stick with higher for Fortnite and COD now. Iíll tell you what not to do is keep changing it because I kept doing that and being inconsistent it helps to just stick with one

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Re: 12000 DPI Vs 3200 DPI
« Reply #4 on: 03:39 AM - 10/17/18 »
most people go max dpi = 12000 because that is the general advice to customers
its easy to understand and ensures the customer runs more than 3000-4000 dpi
the precision output of 12000 dpi on cloth is like 95% of what you could achieve with 3000-4000 dpi, so the advantage is only like 5% with 3000-4000 dpi
those that want the max possible precision will therefore go with 3000-4000 dpi to get the most out of their xims
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Re: 12000 DPI Vs 3200 DPI
« Reply #5 on: 03:49 AM - 10/17/18 »
most people go max dpi = 12000 because that is the general advice to customers
its easy to understand and ensures the customer runs more than 3000-4000 dpi
the precision output of 12000 dpi on cloth is like 95% of what you could achieve with 3000-4000 dpi, so the advantage is only like 5% with 3000-4000 dpi
those that want the max possible precision will therefore go with 3000-4000 dpi to get the most out of their xims

I use 12k dpi for cod
and 3,5k dpi for r6s. Those "5%" are a "lifesafer" when you play games with one shot-headshot kills.

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Re: 12000 DPI Vs 3200 DPI
« Reply #6 on: 05:42 AM - 10/17/18 »
Hmm so still the opinions are 50-50

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Re: 12000 DPI Vs 3200 DPI
« Reply #7 on: 05:46 AM - 10/17/18 »
Depends on your mousepad. Hardpad or hybrid you should be good for 12k. Cloth you might experience jitter at 12k hence people run lower DPI. Also people like lower DPI for stronger aim assist feel.
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Re: 12000 DPI Vs 3200 DPI
« Reply #8 on: 11:21 AM - 10/17/18 »
On Xim Apex, you can pretty much run the full DPI gamette from 400 to 16K DPI if using a higher response rate than 125Hz. The DPI value itself is less important than the quality of the mouse sensor.

Typically, you'd want an Optical sensor from Pixart (3310, 3360 series), or Logitech's Hero sensor that you find in almost all gaming mice from the last 2-3 years because they're considered native at all resolutions. You don't want a cheap office mouse with a max of 400 or 800 DPI because it will perform very poorly for gaming, but a 12K or 16K gaming mouse won't have any problems using a lower DPI.

The things to look out for are jitter at very high DPI and stutter at very low DPI. That's why we tend to recommend from 3-4K DPI as a happy medium where you're unlikely to experience mouse sensor issues.

To add to that, DPI can affect a game's aim assist. High DPI makes it easier to cut through AA into the hitbox, low DPI makes AA feel stickier, but at the risk of being stuck outside the hitbox. It's a personal preference whether you prefer more or less AA.

I just wanted to thank you for all your input you do in these forums. You and the other MVPs and moderators. You all really care about helping people. Thatís rare.
I too have been having issues with sniping weapons in Fortnite. Mouse jitters around when trying to zoom in on people far as they are so small. Canít get it to be smoothe. I will play around with my g502 dpi and see if I can get it steadier. Thanks for the great advice....

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Re: 12000 DPI Vs 3200 DPI
« Reply #9 on: 12:05 PM - 10/17/18 »
Id avoid 12k on cloth
This Iíve used 12k and 16k on cloth pads such as Razer Goliathus, Roccat Taito, Zowie gtfx and I had a bad experience with all of em. Personally, hard pad is necessary for 12k/16k for me personally. Not saying 12k/16k canít be used w/ cloth, it just didnít work for me personally (i know i used ďpersonallyĒ a bunch but i just wanted to emphasize that this is only in my experience and Iím not speaking for anyone but myself, just in case anyone tries to start a pointless argument telling me how wrong I am, ppl on the XIM forums tend to do that quite frequently)
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Re: 12000 DPI Vs 3200 DPI
« Reply #10 on: 12:35 PM - 10/17/18 »
Neither would have an effect on stats. So just go by feel. Id probably avoid 12k on cloth though. The safer bet is usually 3.2k

I'd have to boldly disagree with this statement. I play on 12k on a SteelSeries QCK Heavy... 5.12KD, 30% win rate, and 47 wins on Blackout.

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Re: 12000 DPI Vs 3200 DPI
« Reply #11 on: 12:42 PM - 10/17/18 »
Neither would have an effect on stats. So just go by feel. Id probably avoid 12k on cloth though. The safer bet is usually 3.2k

I'd have to boldly disagree with this statement. I play on 12k on a SteelSeries QCK Heavy... 5.12KD, 30% win rate, and 47 wins on Blackout.

Same here. Been on cloth at max DPI for as long as I can remember and never had an issue. Hard pads are just too fast for me and not as accurate for my taste. Granted, there is a difference in quality between the lower end and mid/high end cloth pads. But you can easily find a good one without breaking the bank.

OP, go with what you're used to playing on.
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Re: 12000 DPI Vs 3200 DPI
« Reply #12 on: 01:03 PM - 10/17/18 »
i personally use 3200 on my cloth pad with my g305 and i love it. if i use a hard pad it just slides too much for me. the extra resistance on cloth works for me. the only game that i used a higher dpi was destiny one, but other games its always 3200. dont know why there is so much hype for a max dpi. yes it might react faster and everything but im just used to aim assist and lower dpi on cloth and is better for me.

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Re: 12000 DPI Vs 3200 DPI
« Reply #13 on: 03:01 PM - 10/17/18 »
I'd have to boldly disagree with this statement. I play on 12k on a SteelSeries QCK Heavy... 5.12KD, 30% win rate, and 47 wins on Blackout.
You could probably use a bar of soap for a mouse, or a cheesegrater for a pad and still pull wins - physiology will trump technology every time and you've won some sort of biological lottery.

For the average gamer, the advice is solid - high DPI with a hard pad, low DPI with a cloth pad. Sensitivity also plays a role - hard pad for high sens, cloth pad for low sens. It's the old speed vs accuracy chestnut. I really like the Steelseries Dex pad because it's grippier than hard, but not as resistant as cloth.

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