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What is the maximum length usb extension cord i can use yo plug into the xim apex to plug into the usb hub before there will be some input lag because i game pretty far (maybe 16 feet) from my xbox and i got my xim apex today and am wondering what cords i should buy from best buy.

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Re: What is the maximum length usb extension cord i can use:
« Reply #1 on: 08:35 PM - 03/13/18 »
I have a 40 foot usb cable ran under the house so the Xbox can be in a cabinet.  It works perfect.  You have to get one with capacitors in them which to mean the powered version

The apex needs to be at the end of the usb extension or it would not work. 

I know people will say it wonít work well but it works for me.  I am surprised for sure. 

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Re: What is the maximum length usb extension cord i can use:
« Reply #2 on: 08:38 PM - 03/13/18 »
You are using a 40' active USB extension with your XIM APEX? That's impressive. :-)

For normal (passive) extensions,  the maximum USB segment length is around 12'.
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Re: What is the maximum length usb extension cord i can use:
« Reply #3 on: 08:38 PM - 03/13/18 »

Not sure whether the Xim Apex is USB 1.1, 2, or 3, what speed it operates at, etc. But the spec for USB in the case of 1.1 or 2 says max cable length is 5 meters. This is because of timing, a max propagation delay of 26 ns in the case of USB 2.0. So since we are talking nanoseconds here I would think you are unlikely to notice a difference in lag, but the devices would notice and have timeout errors if you got too long. But since 5m is 16.4 ft I think you'll be ok.

edit: I'd go with the designer's answer over mine.

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Re: What is the maximum length usb extension cord i can use:
« Reply #4 on: 08:45 PM - 03/13/18 »
You are using a 40' active USB extension with your XIM APEX? That's impressive. :-)

For normal (passive) extensions,  the maximum USB segment length is around 12'.

Ok I was wrong it was 30 ft.  The exact one is below. 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00A30FOD0/ref=sxts_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1520995399&sr=1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&th=1&psc=1

I even tried it powered up but it created buzzing in my headphones and it wasnít needed anyway. 

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Re: What is the maximum length usb extension cord i can use:
« Reply #5 on: 08:48 PM - 03/13/18 »
You are using a 40' active USB extension with your XIM APEX? That's impressive. :-)

For normal (passive) extensions,  the maximum USB segment length is around 12'.

Ok I was wrong it was 30 ft.  The exact one is below. 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00A30FOD0/ref=sxts_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1520995399&sr=1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&th=1&psc=1

I even tried it powered up but it created buzzing in my headphones and it wasnít needed anyway.

So if i bought that exact cord (just to be safe), would it have noticeable input lag?

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Re: What is the maximum length usb extension cord i can use:
« Reply #6 on: 08:54 PM - 03/13/18 »
I can not guarantee anything.  I would try your game with out the extension first so you donít blame the extension for something.

What I do guarantee is that amazon has returns and that my son destroys with this setup so if there is lag it is able to be overcame. 

I had no other choice because of marriage and cords across the floor for a non gaming clean freak wife. 

So what do you have to lose.  I did not expect it to wwork but had to try. 

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Re: What is the maximum length usb extension cord i can use:
« Reply #7 on: 02:51 AM - 03/14/18 »
I use a 16ft cable that comes with the CouchMaster. No issues at all.
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Re: What is the maximum length usb extension cord i can use:
« Reply #8 on: 03:03 AM - 03/14/18 »
Re: USB cable lag - https://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=61884.msg661161#msg661161

i.e, it's less than a millionth of a second.