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Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
« Reply #30 on: 10:39 AM - 03/02/18 »
I went into overwatch and replicated the same scenario on PC. I completed the process and it resulted in a change from a 5000 mouse sensitivity index (1000dpi x 5 sense) to a 2000 mouse sensitivity index (1000 dpi to 2 sens) - from a 9.875" 360 turn to a 26.5" 360 turn. In the training room I can already tell my aim is much smoother and more accurate, however, the sudden decrease in turn speed is definitely going to be a big adjustment. Luckily I already have a 16"x18" moousepad and have the space to move my arm around. Despite knowing that the sudden change will disrupt my short term performance in terms of being adjusted to movement I know that it will be an investment into future performance that will have a large payout. Thanks for the tutorial :)

that sounds like a pretty good sensitivity now, mine is slightly slower (something like 45cm per 360°)
give this turnspeed a few days and you will ask yourself how you ever played with anything else! :)

for some OW characters accuracy shouldnt be your main target though, you might want to go for a faster sensitivity there and sacrifice some accuracy (eg dva)


Nice tut Od1n.

Do you use the same methodology in high AA games?

The concern is breaking through the AA bubble into the hitbox, which can get trickier at lower sens values when AA is higher.

I tend to optimise my aim in say Destiny 2 at 3200 DPI, then bump up the DPI to 3600 to help with cut-through into the hitbox. Essentially that's the same as increasing sens by 12.5%, but it's just a quicker way for me to get there.

I also found that I needed to roughly halve my Overwatch sens compared to almost every other game I play, so it'd be interesting to replicate this in another title.

Great approach nonetheless, I'll give it a crack :)

yes this is a valid point indeed, with slower sensitivities aim assist can become an issue

i usually counter this by either deactivating or reducing the aim assist if the game allows that (eg use aim window 30 in Overwatch) or by adding in some smoothing
the smoothing helps to get into the aim assist bubble without having that barrier trying to push you away or stall your mouse for a slight moment

another great way is to actively aim by moving your character as well
this is what i do in overwatch, when i attempt to target on an opponent i usually adapt my movement to that so my WASD breaks my cursor into the bubble (or out of it if needed)
it takes some practice but is really effective
(alongside using 30 aim window in OW)

this is how controller players aim, if you watch the better pad players youll see how a large share of their aim comes from moving their character
the aim assist algorithm is tailored around those input patterns so adapting your keyboard or nav movements to that is really beneficial
this is why people playing with a nav usually say they have more aim assist or struggle less with the aim assist bubble as they automatically use their analog stick to partially aim or stay on target


Great tutorial Odin. Request todo one for Fortnite and also share more gameplay!

fortnite tutorial is planned but ill most likely do an overwatch and ballistic curve one before that
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Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
« Reply #31 on: 11:16 AM - 03/02/18 »



Excellent tutorial. I've gotten somewhat used to a different sensitivity over the past year. Think it's worth going through this tutorial and doing it anyways? Won't I likely just end up with my current sensitivity

yes definitely, but do the tutorial before you have warmed up!
let me know how big the difference between your current sensitvity and ur new one will be :)



I went into overwatch and replicated the same scenario on PC. I completed the process and it resulted in a change from a 5000 mouse sensitivity index (1000dpi x 5 sense) to a 2000 mouse sensitivity index (1000 dpi to 2 sens) - from a 9.875" 360 turn to a 26.5" 360 turn. In the training room I can already tell my aim is much smoother and more accurate, however, the sudden decrease in turn speed is definitely going to be a big adjustment. Luckily I already have a 16"x18" moousepad and have the space to move my arm around. Despite knowing that the sudden change will disrupt my short term performance in terms of being adjusted to movement I know that it will be an investment into future performance that will have a large payout. Thanks for the tutorial :)

That's probably pushing it for overwatch. While your aim will be better your free look efficiency will go down. There needs to be a balance between the two. But now you've found your spot you can adjust from here

I used the same technique years ago from this video
https://youtu.be/uxBuiD11WDM

And it got me on 1.3 400dpi but in game it was holding me back to much. Ended up being like a mobile turret lol accurate but with poor awareness and movement. I use around 60cm/360 (1.72 400dpi) these days which is the perfect balance for me.
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Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
« Reply #32 on: 12:09 PM - 03/02/18 »
I used the same technique years ago from this video
https://youtu.be/uxBuiD11WDM

And it got me on 1.3 400dpi but in game it was holding me back to much. Ended up being like a mobile turret lol accurate but with poor awareness and movement. I use around 60cm/360 (1.72 400dpi) these days which is the perfect balance for me.

i think it was you Zen who posted this video for the first time back in the days :)
dont know how often i have linked this video in this forum over the last years lol but everytime i did it people where blown away on what a difference it made
(which was one of the reasons why i did a dedicated xim video about it, the method in both videos is similar)
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Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
« Reply #33 on: 12:11 PM - 03/02/18 »
Yeah it was me. I prefer yours though. You did a superb job!

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Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
« Reply #34 on: 12:23 PM - 03/02/18 »
Thx for taking the time on this one.
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Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
« Reply #35 on: 12:35 PM - 03/02/18 »
Awesome tutorial Od1n, that's is exactly how I do it... is the old Counter Strike Impulsive method (The old good Bubble Algorithm). Great work, very well explained.


The only plus thing I tried, and give me great results is when I find that balance sensitivity I choose the next lower one and I put RML Anti-aim Assist curve but only for games where aim assist is very strong. I do prefer 1:1 linear sensitivity.

Keep up the good work!
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Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
« Reply #36 on: 12:40 PM - 03/02/18 »
And I know you put your time on this video... is appreciated, but I do prefer a voice over than the text-to-voice.

It will be better suited, more professional finish (credibility). IMO

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Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
« Reply #37 on: 12:41 PM - 03/02/18 »
And I know you put your time on this video... is appreciated, but I do prefer a voice over than the text-to-voice.

It will be better suited, more professional finish (credibility). IMO

yes please fix mic.
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Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
« Reply #38 on: 04:28 PM - 03/02/18 »
another great way is to actively aim by moving your character as well
this is what i do in overwatch, when i attempt to target on an opponent i usually adapt my movement to that so my WASD breaks my cursor into the bubble (or out of it if needed)
it takes some practice but is really effective
That's where a lot of my micro-aim adjustments come from too...always be strafing!

If I can suggest a couple of follow-up vids -

1. Using Smoothness with Aim Assist. Basically, what the AA bubble is and how to get in an out of it.
2. Using Ballistics Curves with low sensitivity. How to have both good accuracy and higher turn speeds using curves.

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Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
« Reply #39 on: 04:30 PM - 03/02/18 »
another great way is to actively aim by moving your character as well
this is what i do in overwatch, when i attempt to target on an opponent i usually adapt my movement to that so my WASD breaks my cursor into the bubble (or out of it if needed)
it takes some practice but is really effective
That's where a lot of my micro-aim adjustments come from too...always be strafing!

If I can suggest a couple of follow-up vids -

1. How to use Smoothness with Aim Assist. Basically, what the AA bubble is and how to get in an out of it.
2. How to use Ballistics Curves with low sensitivity. How to have both good accuracy and higher turn speeds using curves.

I would be interested in both of those videos, perhaps amending #2 in that I would be interested in both the 101 and the particulars of ballistic curves.
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Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
« Reply #40 on: 04:32 PM - 03/02/18 »
For all of the initial alpha testers is there a smoothing setting that can be a standard across all games? I remember seeing someones magic settings  1000hz polling on xim, 1000hz polling on g502, with 7 smoothing added to both hip and ads. I am just curious if we can expect to do this to all games in the lineup or do we need to pay special attention to games that may not have the est look mechanic. 
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Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
« Reply #41 on: 04:35 PM - 03/02/18 »
You should only use smoothing if you're experiencing jitter. Smoothing is applied in each game's config. I do think some games will emphasize jitter if you're experiencing it, so I'm not sure if there's any universal truth to what it should be set to.

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Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
« Reply #42 on: 04:37 PM - 03/02/18 »
Smoothing's purpose is not to manipulate the AA bubble, it's just a happy coincidence. It doesn't really start to kick in until 7, so that's the starting point.

The recommendation would be to play for awhile with 1000Hz and without Smoothing to see how it feels. Then turn Smoothing on at 7 to see if that makes any positive difference.

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Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
« Reply #43 on: 05:33 PM - 03/02/18 »
Does anyone know how to work out what your HIP and ADS sensitivities should be in Rainbow Six Siege to get a uniform feel? It would definitely help with muscle memory.

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Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
« Reply #44 on: 05:38 PM - 03/02/18 »
You can try to use the HIP ST for ADS. Not recommended because the look mechanics will very likely be different, but worth a shot.

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