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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #405 on: 03:24 PM - 08/30/17 »
So after reading that post about 12000 dpi sucks on this forum. I decided to test it out just for the sake of it... I didn't think it was going to be better.

I have the g502 and tested 2000, 3600, 4000. Converting the sensitivity to be equivalent to what I had at 12000.

I can say that after playing at 2k dpi all other settings feel like trash to me.

Idk how to explain what makes it better. Maybe there is acceleration after 2k or maybe more Input lag idk... But I am happy I tested it.

So I think u guys should give 2k a go specially if u have g502. It feels more responsive, specially on linear.

Dude no @#$%?? I have a g502 and I will seriously lower the DPI right now. Do you really think the 2k DPI is better? Lol

I play on 1800 even though my G Pro is perfectly capable of 12,000.  :)

Yes, it is much better.

Super high DPI is only good for hard mousepads. A lot of mice also do not handle high DPI very well... although Logitech is "supposed" to be one of the good ones that perform well up to 12,000.
Not to offend anyone but if you don't have a hard mouse pad, you're not doing it right.
I totally agree in order to utilize the 12000, you need the right pad but why would you lower your responsiveness rather than buy a $25 mouse pad? Full DPI and a Hard Pad will get you the best results IMHO.
Every once and a while I'll see these posts and just give it a try but I've never seen even a slight improvement over 12000 and usually quite the opposite. I understand that not everyone has $160 for a mouse but if you can't then at least get a hard mouse pad.

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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #406 on: 03:32 PM - 08/30/17 »
So after reading that post about 12000 dpi sucks on this forum. I decided to test it out just for the sake of it... I didn't think it was going to be better.

I have the g502 and tested 2000, 3600, 4000. Converting the sensitivity to be equivalent to what I had at 12000.

I can say that after playing at 2k dpi all other settings feel like trash to me.

Idk how to explain what makes it better. Maybe there is acceleration after 2k or maybe more Input lag idk... But I am happy I tested it.

So I think u guys should give 2k a go specially if u have g502. It feels more responsive, specially on linear.

Dude no @#$%?? I have a g502 and I will seriously lower the DPI right now. Do you really think the 2k DPI is better? Lol

I play on 1800 even though my G Pro is perfectly capable of 12,000.  :)

Yes, it is much better.

Super high DPI is only good for hard mousepads. A lot of mice also do not handle high DPI very well... although Logitech is "supposed" to be one of the good ones that perform well up to 12,000.
Not to offend anyone but if you don't have a hard mouse pad, you're not doing it right.
I totally agree in order to utilize the 12000, you need the right pad but why would you lower your responsiveness rather than buy a $25 mouse pad? Full DPI and a Hard Pad will get you the best results IMHO.
Every once and a while I'll see these posts and just give it a try but I've never seen even a slight improvement over 12000 and usually quite the opposite. I understand that not everyone has $160 for a mouse but if you can't then at least get a hard mouse pad.

Pads are completely personal preference. Just because hard pads are good for you, doesn't automatically make them the best thing. It is a rarity to see any pro PC player using a hard pad. Are you saying they purposely gimp themselves?  :P

Also, many people don't find hard pads comfortable.

I own at least 10 different mouse pads, hard and cloth and have always gone back to cloth.
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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #407 on: 07:27 PM - 08/30/17 »
Just dropping some feedback regarding Aim Ease option.

I had a hunch (and it was confirmed by Mist) that vertical movement was being slowed down when increasing Aim Ease value.

After doing some playing around, I have come up with a value that you should be increasing your Y/X ratio (this is just eyeballing it, I don't have any special tools to come up with a exact calculation, but I feel I am pretty close).

Every increase of 1 on the Aim Ease slider requires you to raise your Y/X ratio about 0.05.

So by default, most of us are on 1.50 using the regular Linear setup. If you set Aim Ease to 1, you will want to increase your Y/X ratio to 1.55. If you set Aim Ease to 2, you will need to set Y/X ratio to 1.60. AE 3 = Y/X 1.65 and so on.....

Now... is there any benefit to using Aim Ease with Linear Ramp? I find much lower values 1-5ish having some benefit (making your aim smoother/less jittery). If you are a very quick/snappy/jittery aimer, Aim Ease might be of benefit to you. The higher you begin to raise Aim Ease, however, the more you are going away from a Linear setup. Higher Aim Ease = you are turning Linear back into a Expo setup which is what most of us Linear users DON'T want.

Going to keep fiddling around and will report back  :)
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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #408 on: 09:00 PM - 08/30/17 »
https://youtu.be/uAEGtqFC9AM

https://youtu.be/uAEGtqFC9AM


Some linear ramp testing with Frankie's curve
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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #409 on: 10:48 PM - 08/30/17 »
Does everyone use aim assist? If so, why? PC does not have aim assist, and it's pretty much considered hacking by them. The whole point of the XIM is to try to emulate PC, not emulate PC with aim hacks. It makes a huge difference, as my accuracy percentage literally drops by half if I turn aim assist from 100 to 0.

If anyone plays on both PC and console with the XIM, does it feel like a massive advantage with the XIM with aim assist vs PC?

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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #410 on: 10:52 PM - 08/30/17 »
@Frankie that Curve is really good not sure why but it feels like I can finally Snipe people with McCree while still being able to turn quickly.

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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #411 on: 11:42 PM - 08/30/17 »
@Frankie that Curve is really good not sure why but it feels like I can finally Snipe people with McCree while still being able to turn quickly.

too bad i cant try it since im on ps4 but it looks good tho. is it consistent?

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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #412 on: 12:09 AM - 08/31/17 »
hey guys, so i heard they did the hotfix this morning, so does this mean i have to change my settings to the new standard? if so can someone please help me out with a good setup cuz im trying to get to top 500 this season. Season starts in 17 hours :( so please someone hook it up with a sick top 500 setup :D
thanks for the help <3

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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #413 on: 10:57 AM - 08/31/17 »
Does everyone use aim assist? If so, why? PC does not have aim assist, and it's pretty much considered hacking by them. The whole point of the XIM is to try to emulate PC, not emulate PC with aim hacks. It makes a huge difference, as my accuracy percentage literally drops by half if I turn aim assist from 100 to 0.

If anyone plays on both PC and console with the XIM, does it feel like a massive advantage with the XIM with aim assist vs PC?

I play both and aim assist makes things MASSIVELY easier.

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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #414 on: 12:56 PM - 08/31/17 »
Every increase of 1 on the Aim Ease slider requires you to raise your Y/X ratio about 0.05.

When you make Console Controller Crossover be without a curve and without boost your slow mouse movements do not register, we established that long ago.

Now the question: when curve is removed and boost is removed is there any point at all in the Aim Ease In scale at which the slow mouse movement starts being registered by Linear Ramp?

If there is such a point then up to maybe 10-15 I am expecting Console Controller Crossover may still work and give the illusion of linear acceleration but if the point is closer to 50 then there is no use, better to go use real 50 equivalent Exponential Ramp which has official ST made for it.

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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #415 on: 03:45 PM - 08/31/17 »
Every increase of 1 on the Aim Ease slider requires you to raise your Y/X ratio about 0.05.

When you make Console Controller Crossover be without a curve and without boost your slow mouse movements do not register, we established that long ago.

Now the question: when curve is removed and boost is removed is there any point at all in the Aim Ease In scale at which the slow mouse movement starts being registered by Linear Ramp?

If there is such a point then up to maybe 10-15 I am expecting Console Controller Crossover may still work and give the illusion of linear acceleration but if the point is closer to 50 then there is no use, better to go use real 50 equivalent Exponential Ramp which has official ST made for it.

No, the initial deadzone is still broken as ever. No value of Aim Ease makes that initial gap go away... you still have to use boost or a curve to compensate.

After testing Ease In thoroughly yesterday, it pretty much seems like a dud. Mist posted his findings in another thread. All that Aim Ease In manages to do is make things feel sluggish and introduces many problems with the Y-axis (which is why Y/X ratio had to be boosted further).

It seems Ease In was a response to those complaining that Linear Ramp starts way too fast.... therefore Ease In slows down initial aim speed considerably with a custom curve. For those of us already used to Linear Ramp being the way it is, Ease In is not very helpful IMO.
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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #416 on: 05:12 PM - 08/31/17 »
hey guys competitive is going to be in about 1 hour, can someone please post their settings, would really help the anxiety im having right now lmfao i heard lower dpi in g502 will make it more responsive, if so what settings would be good with 2k dpi.

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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #417 on: 06:09 PM - 08/31/17 »
hey guys competitive is going to be in about 1 hour, can someone please post their settings, would really help the anxiety im having right now lmfao i heard lower dpi in g502 will make it more responsive, if so what settings would be good with 2k dpi.

Keep your same settings and use a DPI calculator like below to just calculate your new sensitivity (if you lowered your DPI from say 12K to 2K:

http://www.csgosetup.com/dpi-calculator/
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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #418 on: 08:58 PM - 08/31/17 »
thanks for the reply, i dont have a setup, but i prefer a expo setup, if you are a grandmaster player then that would be great, i was top 500 almost every season so i need to find a good setup :D so please someone share their epic setup <3

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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #419 on: 09:42 PM - 08/31/17 »
Quick question guys! I'm still running SA3 firmware which I read here in the previous that it is recommended. Does it still have any difference right now with the latest firmware? I'm on PS4 with the standard 8.5 curve.

Sometimes I switch to 3250 boost with no curve but im still wondering what's the difference between the 2.

and also can you look at this curve and tell me if is it okay to cut the end at 79.5 so i wont hit the max turning speed preventing the flashing red lights even i move my mouse real fast

http://imgur.com/a/VIW8O and http://imgur.com/a/AvUTD


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