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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #315 on: 02:49 PM - 08/14/17 »
XBOX USERS:
Sorry I don't know exactly who's curve this is but though I've found a setting I really like, I like to try other people's curves.
I came across this one today and spent a few hours adjusting. It was a little quick for me and slow at the ends but I liked how it felt. Then I tried slightly dampering the slow end and I think I found a sweet spot. The key is not to turn too fast. The moment you turn faster than OW's internal turn limit you'll feel like it's off. Try taking this to a higher sens then you might feel comfortable and mess around, it's pretty nice.

One other note: I've been helping quiet a few people and I've noticed that a lot of you still use Aim Assist. Whatever that's your deal but that is a BIG reason why you can't turn fast. I have a whole other post about max turn speeds but that aim assist, even at a 1 window, is extremely slowing.

I know you'll miss a few shots at first, especially with Widow and McCree but trust me, you'll get it. I'm still top 1% accuracy with Widow and I think top 5 with Soldier and McCree with 0 Aim Assist. Again just my 2 cents


TL;DR This is a nice setting for high sens and little wrist movements (small mouse pads maybe?)

>>> XIM4 [**OVERWATCH* 35.00 SENS] START PASTE >>>
X4C: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:X4C
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

JUST CURVE: >>> XIM4 [Mouse Ballistics] START PASTE >>>
X4MB:AAAAGgA0AC4AMAAwAC4AMgAwADEANgAwADQAMAA1GBwhJy87U3mfn5+fn5+fn5+fn5+f:X4MB
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

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A little video of my widow with these settings. These might actually take over my other settings, much nicer than I thought even at first.

https://www.youtube.com/v/2bCbIw8guoE

Can you post a screen of the settings? Copying the code gives me strange settings like 5000 on boost in ads and no boost and line in hip fire. (Same FW SA3) dont know why its really impossible play like that and iM sure you have different settings.
Tnx!!

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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #316 on: 04:30 PM - 08/14/17 »
XBOX USERS:
Sorry I don't know exactly who's curve this is but though I've found a setting I really like, I like to try other people's curves.
I came across this one today and spent a few hours adjusting. It was a little quick for me and slow at the ends but I liked how it felt. Then I tried slightly dampering the slow end and I think I found a sweet spot. The key is not to turn too fast. The moment you turn faster than OW's internal turn limit you'll feel like it's off. Try taking this to a higher sens then you might feel comfortable and mess around, it's pretty nice.

One other note: I've been helping quiet a few people and I've noticed that a lot of you still use Aim Assist. Whatever that's your deal but that is a BIG reason why you can't turn fast. I have a whole other post about max turn speeds but that aim assist, even at a 1 window, is extremely slowing.

I know you'll miss a few shots at first, especially with Widow and McCree but trust me, you'll get it. I'm still top 1% accuracy with Widow and I think top 5 with Soldier and McCree with 0 Aim Assist. Again just my 2 cents


TL;DR This is a nice setting for high sens and little wrist movements (small mouse pads maybe?)

>>> XIM4 [**OVERWATCH* 35.00 SENS] START PASTE >>>
X4C: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:X4C
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

JUST CURVE: >>> XIM4 [Mouse Ballistics] START PASTE >>>
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<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

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Whats this wheel thing on the second page ? It should be ADS?. What about dpi?thx

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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #317 on: 05:03 PM - 08/14/17 »
im not saying dont use linear use whatever you want im just saying watever you decide to use stick to it and dont change your sens every week thats what bugs me.

Yeah I found this too, made me inconsistent, just found a good setup for Linear and stuck with it masters on more than one acc at the moment but 'avoid me' is making my experience less satisfying.

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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #318 on: 05:34 PM - 08/14/17 »
XBOX USERS:
Sorry I don't know exactly who's curve this is but though I've found a setting I really like, I like to try other people's curves.
I came across this one today and spent a few hours adjusting. It was a little quick for me and slow at the ends but I liked how it felt. Then I tried slightly dampering the slow end and I think I found a sweet spot. The key is not to turn too fast. The moment you turn faster than OW's internal turn limit you'll feel like it's off. Try taking this to a higher sens then you might feel comfortable and mess around, it's pretty nice.

One other note: I've been helping quiet a few people and I've noticed that a lot of you still use Aim Assist. Whatever that's your deal but that is a BIG reason why you can't turn fast. I have a whole other post about max turn speeds but that aim assist, even at a 1 window, is extremely slowing.

I know you'll miss a few shots at first, especially with Widow and McCree but trust me, you'll get it. I'm still top 1% accuracy with Widow and I think top 5 with Soldier and McCree with 0 Aim Assist. Again just my 2 cents


TL;DR This is a nice setting for high sens and little wrist movements (small mouse pads maybe?)

>>> XIM4 [**OVERWATCH* 35.00 SENS] START PASTE >>>
X4C:AAAAGgA0AC4AMAAwAC4AMgAwADEANgAwADQAMAA1AAAALgAqACoATwBWAEUAUgBXAEEAVABDAEgAKgAgADMANQAuADAAMAAgAFMARQBOAFMAAAYBAQAAAAAAABoANAAuADAAMAAuADIAMAAxADYAMAA0ADAANQAAAAYASABpAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA2sAJYAAAAAAAAAAAAYHCEnLztTeZ+fn5+fn5+fn5+fn59jBGAQYIBiQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAdTABAAaAQgEBiEEAIQBBAAoEggQFABIABgAKACIAEgRCBBAAAAAAAAKAEoAgAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABoANAAuADAAMAAuADIAMAAxADYAMAA0ADAANQAAAAoAVwBoAGUAZQBsgAEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATiABkE4iAAQAAAAABGCApMjtETFVeZ3B4gYqTnKSttr/IYwRgEGCAYkAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHUwAQAGgEIBAYhBAEEAIQAKBIIEBQASAAYACgAiABIEQgQQAAAAAAACgBKAIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaADQALgAwADAALgAyADAAMQA2ADAANAAwADX/////AAAAArwAAAAAAAAAAAEDIABkAAAAAAABAAAAAAQJDhMXHCEmKi80OT1CR0xQVVpfAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaADQALgAwADAALgAyADAAMQA2ADAANAAwADX/////AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPoABkAAAAAAAAAAAAAAoUHigyPEZQWmRueIKMlqCqtL7IYwRgEAAAYkAAAIACAACAAQAAHUwBQAGgEIBAgAJACEAQQAKBIIEBQARiEIABgAgAAIEQgQQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKAIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaADQALgAwADAALgAyADAAMQA2ADAANAAwADX/////AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPoABkAAAAAAAAAAAAAAoUHigyPEZQWmRueIKMlqCqtL7IYwRgEAAAYkAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHUwAQAEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAgAgAAIEQgQQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACAAaAIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaADQALgAwADAALgAyADAAMQA2ADAANAAwADUAAAAGAEEAZABzoBAAASwAAAAAAAAAAAAEsACWAAAAAAAAAAAAGBwhJy87U3mfn5+fn5+fn5+fn5+fYwRgEGCAYkAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHUwAQAGgEIBAYhBACEAQAACBIIEBQAQAAAAAAAAAAIEQgQQAAAAAAACgBKAIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA=:X4C
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

JUST CURVE: >>> XIM4 [Mouse Ballistics] START PASTE >>>
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<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

See Equipment in Sig below

A little video of my widow with these settings. These might actually take over my other settings, much nicer than I thought even at first.

https://www.youtube.com/v/2bCbIw8guoE

can you unpack this a little? What is it about these settings that you like?  I get confused by these crazy curves.  It looks to me like you're defeating the purpose of linear ramp by creating an even more extreme version of expo ramp.

Do you honestly see yourself using a curve like this full time, or do you just like tinkering?

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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #319 on: 09:43 PM - 08/14/17 »
XBOX USERS:
Sorry I don't know exactly who's curve this is but though I've found a setting I really like, I like to try other people's curves.
I came across this one today and spent a few hours adjusting. It was a little quick for me and slow at the ends but I liked how it felt. Then I tried slightly dampering the slow end and I think I found a sweet spot. The key is not to turn too fast. The moment you turn faster than OW's internal turn limit you'll feel like it's off. Try taking this to a higher sens then you might feel comfortable and mess around, it's pretty nice.

One other note: I've been helping quiet a few people and I've noticed that a lot of you still use Aim Assist. Whatever that's your deal but that is a BIG reason why you can't turn fast. I have a whole other post about max turn speeds but that aim assist, even at a 1 window, is extremely slowing.

I know you'll miss a few shots at first, especially with Widow and McCree but trust me, you'll get it. I'm still top 1% accuracy with Widow and I think top 5 with Soldier and McCree with 0 Aim Assist. Again just my 2 cents


TL;DR This is a nice setting for high sens and little wrist movements (small mouse pads maybe?)

>>> XIM4 [**OVERWATCH* 35.00 SENS] START PASTE >>>
X4C: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:X4C
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

JUST CURVE: >>> XIM4 [Mouse Ballistics] START PASTE >>>
X4MB:AAAAGgA0AC4AMAAwAC4AMgAwADEANgAwADQAMAA1GBwhJy87U3mfn5+fn5+fn5+fn5+f:X4MB
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

See Equipment in Sig below

A little video of my widow with these settings. These might actually take over my other settings, much nicer than I thought even at first.

https://www.youtube.com/v/2bCbIw8guoE

can you unpack this a little? What is it about these settings that you like?  I get confused by these crazy curves.  It looks to me like you're defeating the purpose of linear ramp by creating an even more extreme version of expo ramp.

Do you honestly see yourself using a curve like this full time, or do you just like tinkering?

I've started playing Overwatch much more on PC and I've really been trying to match it. I even have my 2 mice right next to each other and I realize this isn't 100%, linear but when I play it allows me to micro aim and whip around. What it's really missing is that mid range speed but you don't need that too much.
To break down the curve what I did is create something that feels linear at a slow speed but then accelerates right to full speed once I'm moving faster than I'd be realistic tracking say a jumping genji for example. Sorry if that's a little convoluted.


TL;DR : Linear at slow speeds, then quick to turn. Bad at medium speed.

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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #320 on: 10:12 PM - 08/14/17 »
XBOX USERS:
Sorry I don't know exactly who's curve this is but though I've found a setting I really like, I like to try other people's curves.
I came across this one today and spent a few hours adjusting. It was a little quick for me and slow at the ends but I liked how it felt. Then I tried slightly dampering the slow end and I think I found a sweet spot. The key is not to turn too fast. The moment you turn faster than OW's internal turn limit you'll feel like it's off. Try taking this to a higher sens then you might feel comfortable and mess around, it's pretty nice.

One other note: I've been helping quiet a few people and I've noticed that a lot of you still use Aim Assist. Whatever that's your deal but that is a BIG reason why you can't turn fast. I have a whole other post about max turn speeds but that aim assist, even at a 1 window, is extremely slowing.

I know you'll miss a few shots at first, especially with Widow and McCree but trust me, you'll get it. I'm still top 1% accuracy with Widow and I think top 5 with Soldier and McCree with 0 Aim Assist. Again just my 2 cents


TL;DR This is a nice setting for high sens and little wrist movements (small mouse pads maybe?)

>>> XIM4 [**OVERWATCH* 35.00 SENS] START PASTE >>>
X4C: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:X4C
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

JUST CURVE: >>> XIM4 [Mouse Ballistics] START PASTE >>>
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<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

See Equipment in Sig below

A little video of my widow with these settings. These might actually take over my other settings, much nicer than I thought even at first.

https://www.youtube.com/v/2bCbIw8guoE

can you unpack this a little? What is it about these settings that you like?  I get confused by these crazy curves.  It looks to me like you're defeating the purpose of linear ramp by creating an even more extreme version of expo ramp.

Do you honestly see yourself using a curve like this full time, or do you just like tinkering?

I've started playing Overwatch much more on PC and I've really been trying to match it. I even have my 2 mice right next to each other and I realize this isn't 100%, linear but when I play it allows me to micro aim and whip around. What it's really missing is that mid range speed but you don't need that too much.
To break down the curve what I did is create something that feels linear at a slow speed but then accelerates right to full speed once I'm moving faster than I'd be realistic tracking say a jumping genji for example. Sorry if that's a little convoluted.


TL;DR : Linear at slow speeds, then quick to turn. Bad at medium speed.

That makes sense, I figured that's what you were going for.  One thing I noticed right away was that small movements felt "steadier." Like I was Really able to stick on a Hanzo when I first tried it. It was surprising. And turning is faster, and I noticed no matter how fast I swiped, I wasn't setting off the max turn lights.

With the OG  linear ramp, sometimes tracking targets feels a little wonky.  My cursor kinda zig zags if that makes sense,  for example tracking Pharah with Mcree.  Not sure if it's AA settings, the Console Crossover ST, or a combo of both.

Do you prefer small movements with this curve vs. the original linear curve?

I did get thrown off by the acceleration sometimes when trying to make quick flick shots with Mcree.

Also do you play 35 sens at 12k dpi?  That feels insanely fast on PS4.
« Last Edit: 10:17 PM - 08/14/17 by Lineater »

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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #321 on: 03:08 AM - 08/15/17 »
Bully, can you please post the screens?

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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #322 on: 08:19 AM - 08/15/17 »
XBOX USERS:
Sorry I don't know exactly who's curve this is but though I've found a setting I really like, I like to try other people's curves.
I came across this one today and spent a few hours adjusting. It was a little quick for me and slow at the ends but I liked how it felt. Then I tried slightly dampering the slow end and I think I found a sweet spot. The key is not to turn too fast. The moment you turn faster than OW's internal turn limit you'll feel like it's off. Try taking this to a higher sens then you might feel comfortable and mess around, it's pretty nice.

One other note: I've been helping quiet a few people and I've noticed that a lot of you still use Aim Assist. Whatever that's your deal but that is a BIG reason why you can't turn fast. I have a whole other post about max turn speeds but that aim assist, even at a 1 window, is extremely slowing.

I know you'll miss a few shots at first, especially with Widow and McCree but trust me, you'll get it. I'm still top 1% accuracy with Widow and I think top 5 with Soldier and McCree with 0 Aim Assist. Again just my 2 cents


TL;DR This is a nice setting for high sens and little wrist movements (small mouse pads maybe?)

>>> XIM4 [**OVERWATCH* 35.00 SENS] START PASTE >>>
X4C: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:X4C
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

JUST CURVE: >>> XIM4 [Mouse Ballistics] START PASTE >>>
X4MB:AAAAGgA0AC4AMAAwAC4AMgAwADEANgAwADQAMAA1GBwhJy87U3mfn5+fn5+fn5+fn5+f:X4MB
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

See Equipment in Sig below

A little video of my widow with these settings. These might actually take over my other settings, much nicer than I thought even at first.

https://www.youtube.com/v/2bCbIw8guoE

can you unpack this a little? What is it about these settings that you like?  I get confused by these crazy curves.  It looks to me like you're defeating the purpose of linear ramp by creating an even more extreme version of expo ramp.

Do you honestly see yourself using a curve like this full time, or do you just like tinkering?

I've started playing Overwatch much more on PC and I've really been trying to match it. I even have my 2 mice right next to each other and I realize this isn't 100%, linear but when I play it allows me to micro aim and whip around. What it's really missing is that mid range speed but you don't need that too much.
To break down the curve what I did is create something that feels linear at a slow speed but then accelerates right to full speed once I'm moving faster than I'd be realistic tracking say a jumping genji for example. Sorry if that's a little convoluted.


TL;DR : Linear at slow speeds, then quick to turn. Bad at medium speed.

That makes sense, I figured that's what you were going for.  One thing I noticed right away was that small movements felt "steadier." Like I was Really able to stick on a Hanzo when I first tried it. It was surprising. And turning is faster, and I noticed no matter how fast I swiped, I wasn't setting off the max turn lights.

With the OG  linear ramp, sometimes tracking targets feels a little wonky.  My cursor kinda zig zags if that makes sense,  for example tracking Pharah with Mcree.  Not sure if it's AA settings, the Console Crossover ST, or a combo of both.

Do you prefer small movements with this curve vs. the original linear curve?

I did get thrown off by the acceleration sometimes when trying to make quick flick shots with Mcree.

Also do you play 35 sens at 12k dpi?  That feels insanely fast on PS4.
I'm not sure exactly how that translates on PS4 but yeah it's fast. on the PS4 you'd have to bump every variable down by 6 on the curve (since the Xbox is +12 and the PS4 is +6) could be why it's so crazy?

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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #323 on: 08:46 AM - 08/15/17 »
Bully, can you please post the screens?

ALL THE SCREENS!


You'll notice with the BullyCurve™ all the aiming is done right at the beginning. That's almost totally linear except right before it transitions on the turning speed. I added a little curve there so it's not as jolting when the turn speed kicks in.

OH and the "Wheel" page is for my commands and sprays.

I use my Nav left trigger to ADS and my Right Click on my Mouse to Jump. (Make sure you have your own buttons on the ADS trigger if that's different for you)

ALSO THIS IS FOR XBOX ONLY!!!!!! PS4 users will have to take my curve and subtract 6 from each interval. Maybe if someone likes it, they'll post the line. I'd recommend taking each of my steps and loading them into Excel. Then just mass subtract 6 and put those new numbers in.
Hope you like it, and @Lineater, I can't say for sure I'll stick with this but right now i REALLY like it.
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« Reply #324 on: 09:51 AM - 08/15/17 »
Here's another quick video.
It's Hanzo on Mystery Heroes.
I SUCK at Hanzo (The whole curved arrow thing throws me off) but I wanted to show that even with 0 aim assist I can track just fine (when I'm aiming at Mercy) with this curve but still whip around quickly (When fighting Winston and Genji). Again don't judge the hanzo play I know it's bad, but look at how I can control the crosshair over the slow moving people as well as the quick moving ones. That's what I've been trying to achieve.

https://www.youtube.com/v/qF526xW-dzA
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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #325 on: 10:02 AM - 08/15/17 »
The PS4 curve actually starts at 8 or 8.5.  I turned it down to 8.5.  35 sens is still way too fast for me, I guess I'm a low sens player.  I kept the sens I was using with the other curve (14.67) and the turning felt plenty fast for me.

I tested the curve last night on a few comp matches.  I didn't play hitscan but I played Pharah (20 AA, 5 AAW).  I really like how small movements feel.  They feel steadier and smoother with this curve.  I found a stats page on overbuff.com that lets you view stats per session, and my stats across the board improved.  Small sample sizes, but my accuracy went from 39-41% to 44% and I landed more direct hits. 

Being able to whip around with Mercy was also nice.

the acceleration takes some getting used to, but the micro movements feel so good I think I will stick with this curve for the time being.

Thank you for sharing!

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« Reply #326 on: 10:05 AM - 08/15/17 »
The PS4 curve actually starts at 8 or 8.5.  I turned it down to 8.5.  35 sens is still way too fast for me, I guess I'm a low sens player.  I kept the sens I was using with the other curve (14.67) and the turning felt plenty fast for me.

I tested the curve last night on a few comp matches.  I didn't play hitscan but I played Pharah (20 AA, 5 AAW).  I really like how small movements feel.  They feel steadier and smoother with this curve.  I found a stats page on overbuff.com that lets you view stats per session, and my stats across the board improved.  Small sample sizes, but my accuracy went from 39-41% to 44% and I landed more direct hits. 

Being able to whip around with Mercy was also nice.

the acceleration takes some getting used to, but the micro movements feel so good I think I will stick with this curve for the time being.

Thank you for sharing!
Oh is it 8.5 sorry all.
Glad you like it. If you calculated a new curve for PS4 users, mind sharing it?

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« Reply #327 on: 11:45 AM - 08/15/17 »
Tnx Bully! I love this curve i just have to learn to play with 0 AA now  :D

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« Reply #328 on: 01:25 PM - 08/15/17 »
From the overwatch official forum:

Linear Ramp and Aim Curves
 Tim Ford Lead Engineer
I’d like to clear up some confusion about the difference between Linear and Exponential Ramp as well as announce some new options you can leverage to fine tune your aim. I’ve read a few posts that assume Exponential Ramp yields a exponentially higher turn rate than Linear when the aim stick is fully deflected. This is a reasonable assumption, since an exponential curve will yield a higher result than a linear curve for values greater than 1. However, the goal of Exponential Ramp is to map a sensitive aim stick to a restrained aim value. We achieve this goal by mapping linear input to exponential values over the range from 0 to 1. The exponential ramp values we are concerned with fall into the region of the curve boxed in the following image:
http://imgur.com/fiGfLpI
Your input is constrained from 0 to 1 where 0 is the value at the tip of the dead zone (usually about 20-25% stick deflection) and 1 is fully deflected. The dead zone is computed with the scaled radial technique explained here (http://www.third-helix.com/2013/04/12/doing-thumbstick-dead-zones-right.html). Linear Ramp uses this value to compute your aim turn rate. Exponential Ramp scales this value (roughly) by a power of 2.5. So, a Linear Ramp input of 0.25 will map to an Exponential Ramp input of 0.03125. A Linear Ramp input of 0.75 will map to an Exponential Ramp input of 0.4871. Naturally, a Linear Ramp input of 1.0 will map to an Exponential Ramp input of 1.0. Incidentally, Exponential Ramp is “roughly” a power of 2.5 because it’s actually a hand drawn curve we borrowed from our generous friends on the Call of Duty team.
Today, we give you two choices for input curve mapping, Linear and Exponential Ramp (Dual-Zone is technically linear as well). Of course, there are a whole family of possible curves between linear and our current exponential (and beyond). In an upcoming patch, we will add an option called Aim Ease In. This is a slider option from 0 to 100 that corresponds to an exponent from 1 to 5 respectively. Combined with Linear Ramp, this option will allow you to select a wide range of curves to map your aim input to your taste.
http://imgur.com/MzZZKNL
Aim Ease In is compatible with Exponential Ramp and Dual Zone, although you should expect a fairly compressed aim curve if you crank this option with Exponential Ramp.

Link: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20758657839?page=1

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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #329 on: 02:39 PM - 08/15/17 »
This is the PS4 version of bully's curve:

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I simply pasted in the curve and lowered the starting value to 8.5.


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