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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #195 on: 06:58 PM - 06/27/17 »
Not sure where to post this but was wondering how to copy and paste a curve on the xim manager for iOS?

Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks

There are two icons/buttons next to the curve, one is of two boxes (copy), the other is one of those boxes and a down arrow (paste).

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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #196 on: 08:37 PM - 06/27/17 »

Is SA03 necessary to try out these curves? Not too sure about how to install it and if possible, save my current configs.

I would say it is necessary to match the firmware when trying someone else's curves because in this case, Gold firmware and SA firmwares handle curves differently (most of the SA builds scale curves at 100% whereas gold build scales curves at 125%). IMO this difference in scale does make a difference in how curves feel.

What does the SA3 firmware do if Steady Aim is turned off? I noticed Hoodlums has SA turned off.

SA3 firmware with steady aim turned off is basically the same as gold firmware.

Only difference is that SA3 handles curves differently as explained above (different scale).
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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #197 on: 03:13 AM - 06/29/17 »
Hi all, New XIM user and Forum member here. I'm in desperate need of help. I bought all the gear earlier this week and have spent days trying to get setting right. TBH I can't even get it so it's playable let alone tweak it for perfections.
I've read through every single post on here and tried to replicate the linear set up as in this thread(and have AFAIK). Can anyone please help me with a complete list of settings to try for my equipment, I've tried everything and had to go back to the control pad after burning over 200 on hardware.

It's either really slow can barely turn or so erratic I can't play it.

I have Logitech G402 set at 4000 DPI @ 1000 Refresh
Xbox one
a 50" TV if that matters
Overwatch setting i've messed with but the main ones like Sens etc are as they should be.

I'm looking to try and play Tracer / Soldier / Sombra etc, I don't care about widow.

Sorry for the long post, but i'm in distress, If anyone has similar equipment and made it work I'd like to know how

Thanks in advance


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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #198 on: 06:46 AM - 06/29/17 »
Hi all, New XIM user and Forum member here. I'm in desperate need of help. I bought all the gear earlier this week and have spent days trying to get setting right. TBH I can't even get it so it's playable let alone tweak it for perfections.
I've read through every single post on here and tried to replicate the linear set up as in this thread(and have AFAIK). Can anyone please help me with a complete list of settings to try for my equipment, I've tried everything and had to go back to the control pad after burning over 200 on hardware.

It's either really slow can barely turn or so erratic I can't play it.

I have Logitech G402 set at 4000 DPI @ 1000 Refresh
Xbox one
a 50" TV if that matters
Overwatch setting i've messed with but the main ones like Sens etc are as they should be.

I'm looking to try and play Tracer / Soldier / Sombra etc, I don't care about widow.

Sorry for the long post, but i'm in distress, If anyone has similar equipment and made it work I'd like to know how

Thanks in advance

Did you try the regular setup first? (as in the official Overwatch ST and using exponential ramp)

This linear setup requires that you NOT use the Overwatch ST but rather use the Console Crossover ST.

That is usually where people go wrong at first... they end up using the Overwatch ST with linear ramp on. Or vice versa they use the Console Crossover ST but stay on exponential ramp by accident.

If everything looks correct, then I am curious what XIM sensitivity you are running with your 4000 DPI mouse?
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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #199 on: 08:10 AM - 06/29/17 »
So after lurking here for a bit, I've finally decided to post. The quest for the perfect settings continues, and has become quite frustrating.
My current setup:
Logitech G403 wired at 12k dpi/1000hz (was using default 3200 dpi with 60 xim sens, but moved up to 12k at forum advice)
Logitech G13
Big cloth mouse mat.

So far I've been using:

Console Crossover ST w/Linear Ramp
100/100 sens in game
0 aim smoothing
100 aim assist
10 aaw
xim settings -
12 sens
1.5 x/y ratio
no curve
4250 boost

- This allows me to turn really fast and do a 180 without much mouse movement and feels good for genji, however its constantly hitting the turn speed limit and causing the xim to flash red. Its not good for precise aiming either.

Also used the above settings with Hoodlums #1 curve and only 750 boost to overcome the deadzone, and this is my current goto setting for hitscan, typically (not always) gets me 45-50% accuracy with soldier and gold kills and damage. However, tracking can be difficult at times when confronted with tracer and genji. Also, no matter how fast I turn with this setup, I never get the red flashing lights.

Tried Hoodlum's #2 curve as well and it wasnt great for me, couldn't turn. I realize these curves were made for ps4 and me being on Xbox, I need to raise the curve or add boost, and i'm hesitant to start modifying curves. I think I will try the curve posted on the first page of this thread, or spend more time on expo ramp with the Overwatch ST, as most of the high SR posters on this former seem to be using expo ramp w/Overwatch St and no curve or boost, proving that simple is better lol. I'l also probably go back down to 3200 DPI, as 12k seems jittery when tracing the outlines of objects, probably due to my mousepad.

So tonight I'll play with the curve Big Ol Bully posted on page 1 on Linear Ramp, as well as more time on the Overwatch Expo Ramp ST, and pick one and stick with it. Hoodlum's #1 feels good but definitely isn't perfect and behaves oddly at times.
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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #200 on: 08:38 AM - 06/29/17 »
Hi all, New XIM user and Forum member here. I'm in desperate need of help. I bought all the gear earlier this week and have spent days trying to get setting right. TBH I can't even get it so it's playable let alone tweak it for perfections.
I've read through every single post on here and tried to replicate the linear set up as in this thread(and have AFAIK). Can anyone please help me with a complete list of settings to try for my equipment, I've tried everything and had to go back to the control pad after burning over 200 on hardware.

It's either really slow can barely turn or so erratic I can't play it.

I have Logitech G402 set at 4000 DPI @ 1000 Refresh
Xbox one
a 50" TV if that matters
Overwatch setting i've messed with but the main ones like Sens etc are as they should be.

I'm looking to try and play Tracer / Soldier / Sombra etc, I don't care about widow.

Sorry for the long post, but i'm in distress, If anyone has similar equipment and made it work I'd like to know how

Thanks in advance

Did you try the regular setup first? (as in the official Overwatch ST and using exponential ramp)

This linear setup requires that you NOT use the Overwatch ST but rather use the Console Crossover ST.

That is usually where people go wrong at first... they end up using the Overwatch ST with linear ramp on. Or vice versa they use the Console Crossover ST but stay on exponential ramp by accident.

If everything looks correct, then I am curious what XIM sensitivity you are running with your 4000 DPI mouse?

Hi thanks for reply, I tried the the overwatch ST with Expo ramp at first, then used the console Crossover ST with Linear , tbh I'm not in front of my equipment atm so can't tell you the sens, but I never stuck on one for long as I found it so erratic, I'm going to lower my DPI to 2000 and concentrate on just using boost. I was getting XIM blink red at me a lot so that can't be right. The only thing i'm not understanding is all this talk about Firmware and steady Aim. My XIM is brand new so should have the latest firmware ? It's loads of numbers from memory :-) .

Also I have not gamed with a keyboard for years so I'm struggling with that in game as well, which might be making me think my mouse is set up so badly, when really i'm just awful at gaming

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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #201 on: 09:53 AM - 06/29/17 »
So after lurking here for a bit, I've finally decided to post. The quest for the perfect settings continues, and has become quite frustrating.
My current setup:
Logitech G403 wired at 12k dpi/1000hz (was using default 3200 dpi with 60 xim sens, but moved up to 12k at forum advice)
Logitech G13
Big cloth mouse mat.

So far I've been using:

Console Crossover ST w/Linear Ramp
100/100 sens in game
0 aim smoothing
100 aim assist
10 aaw
xim settings -
12 sens
1.5 x/y ratio
no curve
4250 boost

- This allows me to turn really fast and do a 180 without much mouse movement and feels good for genji, however its constantly hitting the turn speed limit and causing the xim to flash red. Its not good for precise aiming either.

Also used the above settings with Hoodlums #1 curve and only 750 boost to overcome the deadzone, and this is my current goto setting for hitscan, typically (not always) gets me 45-50% accuracy with soldier and gold kills and damage. However, tracking can be difficult at times when confronted with tracer and genji. Also, no matter how fast I turn with this setup, I never get the red flashing lights.

Tried Hoodlum's #2 curve as well and it wasnt great for me, couldn't turn. I realize these curves were made for ps4 and me being on Xbox, I need to raise the curve or add boost, and i'm hesitant to start modifying curves. I think I will try the curve posted on the first page of this thread, or spend more time on expo ramp with the Overwatch ST, as most of the high SR posters on this former seem to be using expo ramp w/Overwatch St and no curve or boost, proving that simple is better lol. I'l also probably go back down to 3200 DPI, as 12k seems jittery when tracing the outlines of objects, probably due to my mousepad.

So tonight I'll play with the curve Big Ol Bully posted on page 1 on Linear Ramp, as well as more time on the Overwatch Expo Ramp ST, and pick one and stick with it. Hoodlum's #1 feels good but definitely isn't perfect and behaves oddly at times.

Yea if you want precise aiming, try the curve. With boost it's kinda floaty even after fine tuning it.
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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #202 on: 04:52 PM - 06/29/17 »
Just want to mention that I have been sticking with the curve method on Xbox One (+12 curve) and it has been working extremely well for me.

Boost method at times just felt inconsistent. One day I would be playing great, the next day things would feel sluggish leading to me mess around with the boost value constantly. I just got tired of having to perfectly dial in that boost value all the time. Curve method is so much simpler because we have already determined the perfect values needed pretty much. Curve method also feels a lot more consistent to me, aiming wise.

So I wouldn't necessarily say that the boost method is the recommended way to go anymore. But then again, everyone is different and may have a different opinion on it. Just stick with what you have gotten used to and practice, practice, practice!

Also want to mention how important mousepads are in your performance.

I was using the Zowie G-SR for a long time and it had lots of static friction which made micro movements difficult.

Recently picked up a Razer Gigantus and Coolermaster Swift-RX. Both are really good pads. The Gigantus seems like a slower pad like the G-SR but without that annoying static friction that the G-SR has. The Swift-RX is smooth as butter and I love the glide on it. My current go to pad.
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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #203 on: 05:12 PM - 06/29/17 »
Hi all, New XIM user and Forum member here. I'm in desperate need of help.
These Linear Ramp and "Steady Aim" beta firmware experiments are for little more experienced owners (which you will soon become).

You should explore your xim4 first, and sensitivity values at which you will be comfortable playing all your games. Go back to basics, create a real Overwatch profile. Configure the game as the xim4 developers instruct:
Quote
100 Horizontal and 100 Vertical
0 aim smoothing
Exponential Ramp

Do not forget that Ana and Widowmaker have a special setting "Relative zoom sensitivity".  If you forget you could say "my hip is super fast and blinking red but my ADS is slow and doesn't move!" kind of like what you are saying now.

Default xim4 sensitivity is something like 40.0 when you create Overwatch profile. This is random, it could be too fast or too slow for your DPI.  This is the one and only setting you should be concerned about,  go to the training range and tweak it up and down until you are happy.

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« Reply #204 on: 07:27 PM - 06/29/17 »
Just want to mention that I have been sticking with the curve method on Xbox One (+12 curve) and it has been working extremely well for me.

Boost method at times just felt inconsistent. One day I would be playing great, the next day things would feel sluggish leading to me mess around with the boost value constantly. I just got tired of having to perfectly dial in that boost value all the time. Curve method is so much simpler because we have already determined the perfect values needed pretty much. Curve method also feels a lot more consistent to me, aiming wise.

So I wouldn't necessarily say that the boost method is the recommended way to go anymore. But then again, everyone is different and may have a different opinion on it. Just stick with what you have gotten used to and practice, practice, practice!

Also want to mention how important mousepads are in your performance.

I was using the Zowie G-SR for a long time and it had lots of static friction which made micro movements difficult.

Recently picked up a Razer Gigantus and Coolermaster Swift-RX. Both are really good pads. The Gigantus seems like a slower pad like the G-SR but without that annoying static friction that the G-SR has. The Swift-RX is smooth as butter and I love the glide on it. My current go to pad.

Do you still get the turn limited exceeded lights with the +12 curve? I am currently, xim sens at 20 with 12k doing/1000hz mouse settings.
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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #205 on: 12:12 AM - 06/30/17 »
I prefer the curve as well. I've been playing on hf's original 8.0 curve on PS4,  boost felt kinda jerky for me sometimes when trying to stay on a moving target. Which was the same problem I noticed in the first place with expo ramp.

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« Reply #206 on: 02:04 AM - 06/30/17 »
Hi all, New XIM user and Forum member here. I'm in desperate need of help.
These Linear Ramp and "Steady Aim" beta firmware experiments are for little more experienced owners (which you will soon become).

You should explore your xim4 first, and sensitivity values at which you will be comfortable playing all your games. Go back to basics, create a real Overwatch profile. Configure the game as the xim4 developers instruct:
Quote
100 Horizontal and 100 Vertical
0 aim smoothing
Exponential Ramp

Do not forget that Ana and Widowmaker have a special setting "Relative zoom sensitivity".  If you forget you could say "my hip is super fast and blinking red but my ADS is slow and doesn't move!" kind of like what you are saying now.

Default xim4 sensitivity is something like 40.0 when you create Overwatch profile. This is random, it could be too fast or too slow for your DPI.  This is the one and only setting you should be concerned about,  go to the training range and tweak it up and down until you are happy.

Hi. I'm also new to xim just for a few days. I'm using now the OW ST with expo ramp

In game
100 H and V sens
0 aim smoothing
100 aim assist
100 aim assist window

Xim sens: Ive been playing and experimenting between 17-30 finding out which is good with my G102 prodigy at 6k max sens

I have boost at 1300. Is it good? Whats the use of boost anyway? Right now im not sure if i feel it with or without boost

And by the way should i use some curve adjustments? Should I have it in the right settings with OW ST and Expo ramp or curve settings is just for this linear ramp settings?

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« Reply #207 on: 02:18 AM - 06/30/17 »
Hi all thanks for input its been a great help.
I've concentrated on boost last night, I think I got some decent smooth results.

Cloth mouse pad
2000 DPI
AA 100
Aim smoothing 0
Window 10
XIM sens 110
Boost 4900
Y/X 1.5

This feels smooth enough for me. (I'm still rubbish though)

However I still feel I can't turn around quick enough with heroes like sombra / tracer and I still get the red blinking lights quite often when i throw the mouse around.

Any ideas on what setting I should be adjusting to try and get quicker turning

Thanks

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« Reply #208 on: 01:40 PM - 06/30/17 »
So figured I would put my settings up.  Linear felt really good, but turn speeds were a little lacking so I found several curves without boost that felt a little better for tracking.  Anyways, on to the good stuff.  Here is my setup and I hope some of you find it helpful. 

PLAYER EXPERIENCE
Top 500 Season 4:  Soldier/Zarya main
Current Season High:  4414 (not top 500 yet since I only have about 30 games in so far, but I am def in range for it again this season)
Favorite Heroes:  Tracer, Soldier, Zarya, Lucio

HARDWARE
SYSTEM:  PS4 Pro
MOUSE:  Logitech G502
MOUSEPAD:  Artisan Mid
KEYBOARD:  Corsair Strafe Stealth

IN GAME SETTINGS
AA - 100 (with linear it feels better to leave at max even for pharrah, but i don't play her a lot so you may want to mess around with AA for her and lucio)
Aim Smoothing - 0
AA Window 25
SENS - 100 for both
RAMP - Linear

XIM SETTINGS
FIRMWARE - SA03
ST - Console Controller Crossover
MOUSE DPI - 12k/1000hz polling no angle snapping
SENS - 9.5
BOOST - 0
STEADY AIM - Off
Y/X RATIO - 1.5

AND HERE ARE MY CURVES

I really didn't like the way boost cut off the beginning of the curve so I found some curves that have proven to work for me without boost.  I am posting all 3 since personal preference may differ.  Also remember to adjust sens to your liking since your mousepad/mouse may provide different results.

**MY SENS**
CURVE 1 SENS:  9.5
CURVE 2 SENS:  16.5
CURVE 3 SENS:  12

All curves use the same settings posted above.  The only thing that differs is the sens.


****CURVE 1****

>>> XIM4 [Mouse Ballistics] START PASTE >>>
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<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

http://imgur.com/a/hRl38

I have played around with linear quite i bit and this feels the best to me.  Great turn speed and precise accuracy with small mouse movements.


****CURVE 2****

>>> XIM4 [Mouse Ballistics] START PASTE >>>
X4MB:AAAAGgA0AC4AMAAwAC4AMgAwADEANgAwADQAMAA1ERslLzlDTVdha3V/iZOdnZ2dnZ2d:X4MB
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

http://imgur.com/a/6TQIY

I have shared settings with a few friends of mine and a couple (mind you this is at GM level) have said they really like the feel of this one.  It is the standard 8.5 curve with max turn speed cutoff.


****CURVE 3****

>>> XIM4 [Mouse Ballistics] START PASTE >>>
X4MB:AAAAGgA0AC4AMAAwAC4AMgAwADEANgAwADQAMAA1ESI0RVdoeoudnZ2dnZ2enp6enp6f:X4MB
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

http://imgur.com/a/ibwnM

This curve, at first, felt really good but with my setup pulled slightly when trying to track.  In theory this is the 8.5 curve "henrylibre style."  It may work for others so I wanted to share.

Please keep in mind that sens is personal pref.  Please do not dismiss curves without adjusting the sens to your liking.  Typically what i do is adjust the sens til i hit my desired turn speed and then play with the curve for 1-2 hours.  Don't test this in training ground, but actually against real players.  You wont really know how good it feels until you do.  This is my personal experience, but i can attest the right way to test your curves.

Please make sure you guys keep posting your settings if you change things up.  This just helps the XIM users to get that much closer to finding the perfect setup for linear.


THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS!! After reading in this forums for a day or two I think i finally get what are you saying guys, from the difference of using expo ramp which I played first when I got my xim 2 days ago, vs this linear ramp which I just tried now and IT REALLY FEELS GREAT! Or better with my first expo ramp settings which is just the most basic no curve no boost only, steady aim. But after changing my firmware to SA3 which I read above is needed and done this set up with the curve #1 with sens at 19( i double the original 9.5 because he runs 12k dpi mouse while i only have max 6k dpi) i really think this one works and i'll just pass on the #2 and 3 curve cause the #1 is kinda perfect for me also, turn speed is much faster and still has precise accuracy just like what he said. Thank you for helping us new users to maximize and enjoy the power of xim4. 😁

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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #209 on: 05:28 PM - 06/30/17 »
This is my first post. Long time lurker on the forums. Gave the linear ramp settings a try last night and I must say it is very nice. if anyone wants to know settings just let me know.