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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #180 on: 03:10 PM - 06/26/17 »
Hey Gang,

I've got a Zelotes T90 9200 DPS mouse (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E6U4T7Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&th=1) and I'm trying the config below (as well as several others in this thread) and I can't seem to get anything close to a playable build. It skips so many pixels that no amount of adjustment on the sens comes close to correct it.

I'm not sure if it's the mouse I have or if I'm doing something else wrong, but I have similar problems with most other builds on the site. I can get the mouse to be playable, it's a little choppier than I like and I can't find curves that are really meeting my needs well, but it does work.  Could the off brand mouse really be making that big of a difference or could it be the Xim unit itself? Anyone else have a similar problem?

So figured I would put my settings up.  Linear felt really good, but turn speeds were a little lacking so I found several curves without boost that felt a little better for tracking.  Anyways, on to the good stuff.  Here is my setup and I hope some of you find it helpful. 

PLAYER EXPERIENCE
Top 500 Season 4:  Soldier/Zarya main
Current Season High:  4414 (not top 500 yet since I only have about 30 games in so far, but I am def in range for it again this season)
Favorite Heroes:  Tracer, Soldier, Zarya, Lucio

HARDWARE
SYSTEM:  PS4 Pro
MOUSE:  Logitech G502
MOUSEPAD:  Artisan Mid
KEYBOARD:  Corsair Strafe Stealth

IN GAME SETTINGS
AA - 100 (with linear it feels better to leave at max even for pharrah, but i don't play her a lot so you may want to mess around with AA for her and lucio)
Aim Smoothing - 0
AA Window 25
SENS - 100 for both
RAMP - Linear

XIM SETTINGS
FIRMWARE - SA03
ST - Console Controller Crossover
MOUSE DPI - 12k/1000hz polling no angle snapping
SENS - 9.5
BOOST - 0
STEADY AIM - Off
Y/X RATIO - 1.5

AND HERE ARE MY CURVES

I really didn't like the way boost cut off the beginning of the curve so I found some curves that have proven to work for me without boost.  I am posting all 3 since personal preference may differ.  Also remember to adjust sens to your liking since your mousepad/mouse may provide different results.

**MY SENS**
CURVE 1 SENS:  9.5
CURVE 2 SENS:  16.5
CURVE 3 SENS:  12

All curves use the same settings posted above.  The only thing that differs is the sens.


****CURVE 1****

>>> XIM4 [Mouse Ballistics] START PASTE >>>
X4MB:AAAAGgA0AC4AMAAwAC4AMgAwADEANgAwADQAMAA1ESpDXHV9hY2VnZ2dnZ2enp6enp6f:X4MB
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

http://imgur.com/a/hRl38

I have played around with linear quite i bit and this feels the best to me.  Great turn speed and precise accuracy with small mouse movements.


****CURVE 2****

>>> XIM4 [Mouse Ballistics] START PASTE >>>
X4MB:AAAAGgA0AC4AMAAwAC4AMgAwADEANgAwADQAMAA1ERslLzlDTVdha3V/iZOdnZ2dnZ2d:X4MB
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

http://imgur.com/a/6TQIY

I have shared settings with a few friends of mine and a couple (mind you this is at GM level) have said they really like the feel of this one.  It is the standard 8.5 curve with max turn speed cutoff.


****CURVE 3****

>>> XIM4 [Mouse Ballistics] START PASTE >>>
X4MB:AAAAGgA0AC4AMAAwAC4AMgAwADEANgAwADQAMAA1ESI0RVdoeoudnZ2dnZ2enp6enp6f:X4MB
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

http://imgur.com/a/ibwnM

This curve, at first, felt really good but with my setup pulled slightly when trying to track.  In theory this is the 8.5 curve "henrylibre style."  It may work for others so I wanted to share.

Please keep in mind that sens is personal pref.  Please do not dismiss curves without adjusting the sens to your liking.  Typically what i do is adjust the sens til i hit my desired turn speed and then play with the curve for 1-2 hours.  Don't test this in training ground, but actually against real players.  You wont really know how good it feels until you do.  This is my personal experience, but i can attest the right way to test your curves.

Please make sure you guys keep posting your settings if you change things up.  This just helps the XIM users to get that much closer to finding the perfect setup for linear.

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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #181 on: 08:00 PM - 06/26/17 »
is this mouse on the list of compatible mice for the xim? if not then its most likely the mouse

Hey Gang,

I've got a Zelotes T90 9200 DPS mouse (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E6U4T7Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&th=1) and I'm trying the config below (as well as several others in this thread) and I can't seem to get anything close to a playable build. It skips so many pixels that no amount of adjustment on the sens comes close to correct it.

I'm not sure if it's the mouse I have or if I'm doing something else wrong, but I have similar problems with most other builds on the site. I can get the mouse to be playable, it's a little choppier than I like and I can't find curves that are really meeting my needs well, but it does work.  Could the off brand mouse really be making that big of a difference or could it be the Xim unit itself? Anyone else have a similar problem?
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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #182 on: 11:36 PM - 06/26/17 »
You guys are weird. Everyone bust their chops to get linear translation then you start drawing mountains with your curves. I'm not saying it's "bad", anything that improves situation for one person is great, amazing.

It's weird because it's not linear any more - which is the holy grail of console coming closest to imitating PC.

I think people are just looking for what feels the best to them, some people find Linear feels the best, other people find that Himalayan mountain curves feel good for them.

Also Hoodlums curves look honestly very bad but I haven't tried them yet and you can't judge a book by it's cover, I'll definitely test them out.

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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #183 on: 12:35 AM - 06/27/17 »
I'm just coming back to the game after more than half a yearish. Last I had been playing Sombra was new. I can not figure out how to get back to my old Widowmaker feel. I spent over 6 hours tonight reading, tweaking etc. Everything feels like complete garbage. Accuracy is just not happening - missing by pixels on massive targets multiple times over & over.

I'm using a razr deathadder - DPI should be set to 1800. I figured lower sens would help the accuracy. I'm using low sens & about 3600 boost on PS4. Tweaking the Widow scope zoom helped a bit, but this is not nearly as great as it felt before. (Was using KOJSDODO build) idk if he's still around.

I lost almost every single QP game played tonight trying to get these settings right. The amount that I'm missing on easy targets is insane. I just can't aim for @#$%. I used to have 70%+ accuracy with Widow on even a bad game.

One thing that's still certain is that aiming in this game on console is @#$% trash. How did every other game get it right (Destiny, Halo etc) - & one of the biggest game developers on the planet is incapable of making this game control properly.

-  I'm going to need to redo everything from the ground up & figure this out. Any suggestions appreciated

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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #184 on: 03:01 AM - 06/27/17 »
You guys are weird. Everyone bust their chops to get linear translation then you start drawing mountains with your curves. I'm not saying it's "bad", anything that improves situation for one person is great, amazing.

It's weird because it's not linear any more - which is the holy grail of console coming closest to imitating PC.

I think people are just looking for what feels the best to them, some people find Linear feels the best, other people find that Himalayan mountain curves feel good for them.

Also Hoodlums curves look honestly very bad but I haven't tried them yet and you can't judge a book by it's cover, I'll definitely test them out.

Hoodlums Curve 1, with 25 AAW when using Soldier, Tracer is just hacks lol.. It's weird but it feels so good, getting crit hits so much easier with this curve... the OP curve I struggled landing crits consistently as it always felt stuck to the body.


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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #185 on: 06:32 AM - 06/27/17 »
is this mouse on the list of compatible mice for the xim? if not then its most likely the mouse


Eh, maybe. There's a lot of Zelotes with slightly varying names that all seem to be the exact samething from the stats. VicTsing Zelotes 9200 is listed as compatible, mine is the T90, from the stats and pics on Amazon it looks like the exact same mouse.

VicTsing version: https://www.amazon.com/VicTsing-Zelotes-Buttons-Precision-Support/dp/B013WC0R28/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1498566466&sr=8-1&keywords=VicTsing+Zelotes+9200

'T90: https://www.amazon.com/Zelotes-T90-Professional-Precision-Breathing/dp/B017VTN6Q2/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1498566681&sr=8-4&keywords=zelotes

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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #186 on: 08:01 AM - 06/27/17 »
is this mouse on the list of compatible mice for the xim? if not then its most likely the mouse


Eh, maybe. There's a lot of Zelotes with slightly varying names that all seem to be the exact samething from the stats. VicTsing Zelotes 9200 is listed as compatible, mine is the T90, from the stats and pics on Amazon it looks like the exact same mouse.

VicTsing version: https://www.amazon.com/VicTsing-Zelotes-Buttons-Precision-Support/dp/B013WC0R28/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1498566466&sr=8-1&keywords=VicTsing+Zelotes+9200

'T90: https://www.amazon.com/Zelotes-T90-Professional-Precision-Breathing/dp/B017VTN6Q2/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1498566681&sr=8-4&keywords=zelotes

Well then in theory your mouse should work then.

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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #187 on: 10:30 AM - 06/27/17 »
So figured I would put my settings up.  Linear felt really good, but turn speeds were a little lacking so I found several curves without boost that felt a little better for tracking.  Anyways, on to the good stuff.  Here is my setup and I hope some of you find it helpful. 

PLAYER EXPERIENCE
Top 500 Season 4:  Soldier/Zarya main
Current Season High:  4414 (not top 500 yet since I only have about 30 games in so far, but I am def in range for it again this season)
Favorite Heroes:  Tracer, Soldier, Zarya, Lucio

HARDWARE
SYSTEM:  PS4 Pro
MOUSE:  Logitech G502
MOUSEPAD:  Artisan Mid
KEYBOARD:  Corsair Strafe Stealth

IN GAME SETTINGS
AA - 100 (with linear it feels better to leave at max even for pharrah, but i don't play her a lot so you may want to mess around with AA for her and lucio)
Aim Smoothing - 0
AA Window 25
SENS - 100 for both
RAMP - Linear

XIM SETTINGS
FIRMWARE - SA03
ST - Console Controller Crossover
MOUSE DPI - 12k/1000hz polling no angle snapping
SENS - 9.5
BOOST - 0
STEADY AIM - Off
Y/X RATIO - 1.5

AND HERE ARE MY CURVES

I really didn't like the way boost cut off the beginning of the curve so I found some curves that have proven to work for me without boost.  I am posting all 3 since personal preference may differ.  Also remember to adjust sens to your liking since your mousepad/mouse may provide different results.

**MY SENS**
CURVE 1 SENS:  9.5
CURVE 2 SENS:  16.5
CURVE 3 SENS:  12

All curves use the same settings posted above.  The only thing that differs is the sens.


****CURVE 1****

>>> XIM4 [Mouse Ballistics] START PASTE >>>
X4MB:AAAAGgA0AC4AMAAwAC4AMgAwADEANgAwADQAMAA1ESpDXHV9hY2VnZ2dnZ2enp6enp6f:X4MB
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

http://imgur.com/a/hRl38

I have played around with linear quite i bit and this feels the best to me.  Great turn speed and precise accuracy with small mouse movements.


****CURVE 2****

>>> XIM4 [Mouse Ballistics] START PASTE >>>
X4MB:AAAAGgA0AC4AMAAwAC4AMgAwADEANgAwADQAMAA1ERslLzlDTVdha3V/iZOdnZ2dnZ2d:X4MB
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

http://imgur.com/a/6TQIY

I have shared settings with a few friends of mine and a couple (mind you this is at GM level) have said they really like the feel of this one.  It is the standard 8.5 curve with max turn speed cutoff.


****CURVE 3****

>>> XIM4 [Mouse Ballistics] START PASTE >>>
X4MB:AAAAGgA0AC4AMAAwAC4AMgAwADEANgAwADQAMAA1ESI0RVdoeoudnZ2dnZ2enp6enp6f:X4MB
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

http://imgur.com/a/ibwnM

This curve, at first, felt really good but with my setup pulled slightly when trying to track.  In theory this is the 8.5 curve "henrylibre style."  It may work for others so I wanted to share.

Please keep in mind that sens is personal pref.  Please do not dismiss curves without adjusting the sens to your liking.  Typically what i do is adjust the sens til i hit my desired turn speed and then play with the curve for 1-2 hours.  Don't test this in training ground, but actually against real players.  You wont really know how good it feels until you do.  This is my personal experience, but i can attest the right way to test your curves.

Please make sure you guys keep posting your settings if you change things up.  This just helps the XIM users to get that much closer to finding the perfect setup for linear.

Is SA03 necessary to try out these curves? Not too sure about how to install it and if possible, save my current configs.

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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #188 on: 11:02 AM - 06/27/17 »
Nvm. I was able to install SA03 without losing current configs.

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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #189 on: 11:48 AM - 06/27/17 »
What does the SA3 firmware do if Steady Aim is turned off? I noticed Hoodlums has SA turned off.

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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #190 on: 12:44 PM - 06/27/17 »
How do you know which SA you have? I'm patched to the latest firmware - gold or whatever. What does the SA do? I haven't been able to tell

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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #191 on: 02:01 PM - 06/27/17 »
So figured I would put my settings up.  Linear felt really good, but turn speeds were a little lacking so I found several curves without boost that felt a little better for tracking.  Anyways, on to the good stuff.  Here is my setup and I hope some of you find it helpful. 

PLAYER EXPERIENCE
Top 500 Season 4:  Soldier/Zarya main
Current Season High:  4414 (not top 500 yet since I only have about 30 games in so far, but I am def in range for it again this season)
Favorite Heroes:  Tracer, Soldier, Zarya, Lucio

HARDWARE
SYSTEM:  PS4 Pro
MOUSE:  Logitech G502
MOUSEPAD:  Artisan Mid
KEYBOARD:  Corsair Strafe Stealth

IN GAME SETTINGS
AA - 100 (with linear it feels better to leave at max even for pharrah, but i don't play her a lot so you may want to mess around with AA for her and lucio)
Aim Smoothing - 0
AA Window 25
SENS - 100 for both
RAMP - Linear

XIM SETTINGS
FIRMWARE - SA03
ST - Console Controller Crossover
MOUSE DPI - 12k/1000hz polling no angle snapping
SENS - 9.5
BOOST - 0
STEADY AIM - Off
Y/X RATIO - 1.5

AND HERE ARE MY CURVES

I really didn't like the way boost cut off the beginning of the curve so I found some curves that have proven to work for me without boost.  I am posting all 3 since personal preference may differ.  Also remember to adjust sens to your liking since your mousepad/mouse may provide different results.

**MY SENS**
CURVE 1 SENS:  9.5
CURVE 2 SENS:  16.5
CURVE 3 SENS:  12

All curves use the same settings posted above.  The only thing that differs is the sens.


****CURVE 1****

>>> XIM4 [Mouse Ballistics] START PASTE >>>
X4MB:AAAAGgA0AC4AMAAwAC4AMgAwADEANgAwADQAMAA1ESpDXHV9hY2VnZ2dnZ2enp6enp6f:X4MB
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

http://imgur.com/a/hRl38

I have played around with linear quite i bit and this feels the best to me.  Great turn speed and precise accuracy with small mouse movements.


****CURVE 2****

>>> XIM4 [Mouse Ballistics] START PASTE >>>
X4MB:AAAAGgA0AC4AMAAwAC4AMgAwADEANgAwADQAMAA1ERslLzlDTVdha3V/iZOdnZ2dnZ2d:X4MB
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

http://imgur.com/a/6TQIY

I have shared settings with a few friends of mine and a couple (mind you this is at GM level) have said they really like the feel of this one.  It is the standard 8.5 curve with max turn speed cutoff.


****CURVE 3****

>>> XIM4 [Mouse Ballistics] START PASTE >>>
X4MB:AAAAGgA0AC4AMAAwAC4AMgAwADEANgAwADQAMAA1ESI0RVdoeoudnZ2dnZ2enp6enp6f:X4MB
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

http://imgur.com/a/ibwnM

This curve, at first, felt really good but with my setup pulled slightly when trying to track.  In theory this is the 8.5 curve "henrylibre style."  It may work for others so I wanted to share.

Please keep in mind that sens is personal pref.  Please do not dismiss curves without adjusting the sens to your liking.  Typically what i do is adjust the sens til i hit my desired turn speed and then play with the curve for 1-2 hours.  Don't test this in training ground, but actually against real players.  You wont really know how good it feels until you do.  This is my personal experience, but i can attest the right way to test your curves.

Please make sure you guys keep posting your settings if you change things up.  This just helps the XIM users to get that much closer to finding the perfect setup for linear.

Is SA03 necessary to try out these curves? Not too sure about how to install it and if possible, save my current configs.
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This feels so good for me! Do you have any suggestions for ADS for Widow?

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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #192 on: 06:22 PM - 06/27/17 »
Not sure where to post this but was wondering how to copy and paste a curve on the xim manager for iOS?

Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks

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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #193 on: 06:33 PM - 06/27/17 »
Was really skeptical about linear ramp because I'm use to expo and I do just fine with it, but tested out one of hoodlums mountain curves and its feeling pretty good definitely gonna hop on my alt and try it out more in depth
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Re: OVERWATCH Linear Fix
« Reply #194 on: 06:56 PM - 06/27/17 »
How do you know which SA you have? I'm patched to the latest firmware - gold or whatever. What does the SA do? I haven't been able to tell

Sa3 is one of the experimental builds:

http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=51992.0

So you don't have any of the "SA" versions, not really sure what SA does in the gold version.  In the experimental builds, SA affects aim assist in different ways. Basically makes it more or less sticky.