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Re: Post your Overwatch Settings
« Reply #1110 on: 01:38 PM - 06/10/17 »
When I try and use the boost it feels dreadful. It's nothing even close to how the curve feels by a long shot. What is everyones exact settings using this method cause I feel I have to be messing up. I'm on ps4 as well and have been using the 8.5 curve....

Scratch all of that. You must have the latest firmware for the boost to work, I was on SA5 and i felt like trash but now i'm on the latest gold and its great.

Not true, I am on SA03 and feels better than latest.

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« Reply #1111 on: 02:34 PM - 06/10/17 »
Can anyone explain the difference between using the curve and using the boost? Are they getting to the same result but with different input? Or are they behaving differently in a way that makes sense?

Also not sure with SA03 is. I'm using the Console Controller Crossover profile.

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Re: Post your Overwatch Settings
« Reply #1112 on: 03:11 PM - 06/10/17 »
When I try and use the boost it feels dreadful. It's nothing even close to how the curve feels by a long shot. What is everyones exact settings using this method cause I feel I have to be messing up. I'm on ps4 as well and have been using the 8.5 curve....

Scratch all of that. You must have the latest firmware for the boost to work, I was on SA5 and i felt like trash but now i'm on the latest gold and its great.



Not true, I am on SA03 and feels better than latest.


HMMMM odd, Well i know for sure that the SA5-NPD is a no go.

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Re: Post your Overwatch Settings
« Reply #1113 on: 03:48 PM - 06/10/17 »
gunit2004,

I switched to your curve where it stays consistent and straight through the curve, and I think I prefer it to the one I had prior that converged with the top right corner.

Also, my initial experience with the curve vs the boost is that I prefer the curve for now. But I'm on whatever basic firmware the xim4 uses that's current rather than some other angles.

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« Reply #1114 on: 04:06 PM - 06/10/17 »
When I try and use the boost it feels dreadful. It's nothing even close to how the curve feels by a long shot. What is everyones exact settings using this method cause I feel I have to be messing up. I'm on ps4 as well and have been using the 8.5 curve....

Scratch all of that. You must have the latest firmware for the boost to work, I was on SA5 and i felt like trash but now i'm on the latest gold and its great.

That is because the boost function does not function normally on most of the steady aim firmwares.

The steady aim function in most of the firmwares basically takes over the boost box and uses it for the steady aim function instead. So you cannot use this method with those firmwares (the only steady aim firmwares where boost functions normally is SA03, SA04 and I believe SA02). Besides those 3 builds, boost will not feel the same.

I also made another discovery about curves when experimenting between the various SA firmwares and the regular gold build firmwares. With the SA firmwares, there was a difference introduced in how curves behave. Instead of the 125% scale that curves have always been on, with SA01 and onwards (so that would be SA builds released 20160624 or later) the scale was changed to 100%. Mist or OBsIV can correct me here if I am wrong but this change would cause curves to feel different for people who are on different firmwares. Leading one person to feel like the curve feels off, whereas another person might feel it works great.

I first started using the Linear Ramp workaround when I was on SA0 firmware and it felt great at the time (I was not using the steady aim feature, just happened to be on SA0 firmware at the time). I then upgraded to SA03 and all of a sudden I didn't have that same feeling anymore and was missing a lot more shots. That is when I realized that there was a change in how curves behave between those two firmwares. Maybe some people might not notice it but I did immediately.

Anyways, if you are on a gold build there is not much to worry about because those run at the regular 125%.

So for people using the old curve method and have noticed a weird feeling when switching around between firmwares, this could explain that.

HOWEVER, if you end up using the boost method for Linear Ramp, then it should not matter what firmware you are on as long as you avoid the SA firmwares that take over the boost box. SA02, SA03 and SA04 would be the "safe" firmwares to use with boost method.

Hope this helps!
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Re: Post your Overwatch Settings
« Reply #1115 on: 04:26 PM - 06/10/17 »
When I try and use the boost it feels dreadful. It's nothing even close to how the curve feels by a long shot. What is everyones exact settings using this method cause I feel I have to be messing up. I'm on ps4 as well and have been using the 8.5 curve....

Scratch all of that. You must have the latest firmware for the boost to work, I was on SA5 and i felt like trash but now i'm on the latest gold and its great.

That is because the boost function does not function normally on most of the steady aim firmwares.

The steady aim function in most of the firmwares basically takes over the boost box and uses it for the steady aim function instead. So you cannot use this method with those firmwares (the only steady aim firmwares where boost functions normally is SA03, SA04 and I believe SA02). Besides those 3 builds, boost will not feel the same.

I also made another discovery about curves when experimenting between the various SA firmwares and the regular gold build firmwares. With the SA firmwares, there was a difference introduced in how curves behave. Instead of the 125% scale that curves have always been on, with SA01 and onwards (so that would be SA builds released 20160624 or later) the scale was changed to 100%. Mist or OBsIV can correct me here if I am wrong but this change would cause curves to feel different for people who are on different firmwares. Leading one person to feel like the curve feels off, whereas another person might feel it works great.

I first started using the Linear Ramp workaround when I was on SA0 firmware and it felt great at the time (I was not using the steady aim feature, just happened to be on SA0 firmware at the time). I then upgraded to SA03 and all of a sudden I didn't have that same feeling anymore and was missing a lot more shots. That is when I realized that there was a change in how curves behave between those two firmwares. Maybe some people might not notice it but I did immediately.

Anyways, if you are on a gold build there is not much to worry about because those run at the regular 125%.

So for people using the old curve method and have noticed a weird feeling when switching around between firmwares, this could explain that.

HOWEVER, if you end up using the boost method for Linear Ramp, then it should not matter what firmware you are on as long as you avoid the SA firmwares that take over the boost box. SA02, SA03 and SA04 would be the "safe" firmwares to use with boost method.

Hope this helps!

So if I Have understanded u correct the linear performs best with 125% scale? And can only be found on SA0? If u Have newer firmware its 100% and isnt same? How about the latest official firmware? I am on SA03 atm and IT feels awesome but if there is something betyer I would ofc want to try IT. Can u explain this more detailed to me? And how can I see if IT is 100% or 125?

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Re: Post your Overwatch Settings
« Reply #1116 on: 05:06 PM - 06/10/17 »
When I try and use the boost it feels dreadful. It's nothing even close to how the curve feels by a long shot. What is everyones exact settings using this method cause I feel I have to be messing up. I'm on ps4 as well and have been using the 8.5 curve....

Scratch all of that. You must have the latest firmware for the boost to work, I was on SA5 and i felt like trash but now i'm on the latest gold and its great.

That is because the boost function does not function normally on most of the steady aim firmwares.

The steady aim function in most of the firmwares basically takes over the boost box and uses it for the steady aim function instead. So you cannot use this method with those firmwares (the only steady aim firmwares where boost functions normally is SA03, SA04 and I believe SA02). Besides those 3 builds, boost will not feel the same.

I also made another discovery about curves when experimenting between the various SA firmwares and the regular gold build firmwares. With the SA firmwares, there was a difference introduced in how curves behave. Instead of the 125% scale that curves have always been on, with SA01 and onwards (so that would be SA builds released 20160624 or later) the scale was changed to 100%. Mist or OBsIV can correct me here if I am wrong but this change would cause curves to feel different for people who are on different firmwares. Leading one person to feel like the curve feels off, whereas another person might feel it works great.

I first started using the Linear Ramp workaround when I was on SA0 firmware and it felt great at the time (I was not using the steady aim feature, just happened to be on SA0 firmware at the time). I then upgraded to SA03 and all of a sudden I didn't have that same feeling anymore and was missing a lot more shots. That is when I realized that there was a change in how curves behave between those two firmwares. Maybe some people might not notice it but I did immediately.

Anyways, if you are on a gold build there is not much to worry about because those run at the regular 125%.

So for people using the old curve method and have noticed a weird feeling when switching around between firmwares, this could explain that.

HOWEVER, if you end up using the boost method for Linear Ramp, then it should not matter what firmware you are on as long as you avoid the SA firmwares that take over the boost box. SA02, SA03 and SA04 would be the "safe" firmwares to use with boost method.

Hope this helps!

So if I Have understanded u correct the linear performs best with 125% scale? And can only be found on SA0? If u Have newer firmware its 100% and isnt same? How about the latest official firmware? I am on SA03 atm and IT feels awesome but if there is something betyer I would ofc want to try IT. Can u explain this more detailed to me? And how can I see if IT is 100% or 125?

Only if you use the curve method for Linear Ramp would you be affected by this. All firmwares are on 125% EXCEPT for all of the Steady Aim builds. Only the first ever Steady Aim build (called SA0) was on the regular 125% scale. The rest of the SA builds were on 100% scale. And if you are on a gold build such as 20160405 or 20170103 then you can rest assured that you are on 125%.

Personally, yes, I found the curve that I was using to feel better on 125% scale. But it is a subjective thing and someone else might feel differently about it. If you are already used to your current curve at 100% scale, then changing it now might feel weird to you but you could always give it a shot.

On the plus side, if you use the boost method, you don't have to worry about all this scale nonsense  :P

Also you could probably "convert" your curve to work with a firmware that is using a different scale.

For example, when I was using firmware SA03 and realized the scale was different, I simply tried converting my curve and it did seem to work properly afterwards when I tested in game.

This was my regular curve (which I felt worked good on 125% scale firmwares)



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>>> XIM4 [Mouse Ballistics] START PASTE >>>
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<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

This was what the curve looked like after converting it for use on 100% scale firmwares:



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>>> XIM4 [Mouse Ballistics] START PASTE >>>
X4MB:AAAAGgA0AC4AMAAwAC4AMgAwADEANgAwADQAMAA1GCIsNkBKVF5ocnyGkJqkrrjCyMjI:X4MB
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

Basically just took the old one and cut it off at 75% to account for the 25% difference in scale.

And to avoid confusion, once again want to state for people who have moved on to using the boost method to not worry about this scaling stuff as it does not affect you.
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Re: Post your Overwatch Settings
« Reply #1117 on: 05:21 PM - 06/10/17 »
When I try and use the boost it feels dreadful. It's nothing even close to how the curve feels by a long shot. What is everyones exact settings using this method cause I feel I have to be messing up. I'm on ps4 as well and have been using the 8.5 curve....

Scratch all of that. You must have the latest firmware for the boost to work, I was on SA5 and i felt like trash but now i'm on the latest gold and its great.

That is because the boost function does not function normally on most of the steady aim firmwares.

The steady aim function in most of the firmwares basically takes over the boost box and uses it for the steady aim function instead. So you cannot use this method with those firmwares (the only steady aim firmwares where boost functions normally is SA03, SA04 and I believe SA02). Besides those 3 builds, boost will not feel the same.

I also made another discovery about curves when experimenting between the various SA firmwares and the regular gold build firmwares. With the SA firmwares, there was a difference introduced in how curves behave. Instead of the 125% scale that curves have always been on, with SA01 and onwards (so that would be SA builds released 20160624 or later) the scale was changed to 100%. Mist or OBsIV can correct me here if I am wrong but this change would cause curves to feel different for people who are on different firmwares. Leading one person to feel like the curve feels off, whereas another person might feel it works great.

I first started using the Linear Ramp workaround when I was on SA0 firmware and it felt great at the time (I was not using the steady aim feature, just happened to be on SA0 firmware at the time). I then upgraded to SA03 and all of a sudden I didn't have that same feeling anymore and was missing a lot more shots. That is when I realized that there was a change in how curves behave between those two firmwares. Maybe some people might not notice it but I did immediately.

Anyways, if you are on a gold build there is not much to worry about because those run at the regular 125%.

So for people using the old curve method and have noticed a weird feeling when switching around between firmwares, this could explain that.

HOWEVER, if you end up using the boost method for Linear Ramp, then it should not matter what firmware you are on as long as you avoid the SA firmwares that take over the boost box. SA02, SA03 and SA04 would be the "safe" firmwares to use with boost method.

Hope this helps!

So if I Have understanded u correct the linear performs best with 125% scale? And can only be found on SA0? If u Have newer firmware its 100% and isnt same? How about the latest official firmware? I am on SA03 atm and IT feels awesome but if there is something betyer I would ofc want to try IT. Can u explain this more detailed to me? And how can I see if IT is 100% or 125?

Only if you use the curve method for Linear Ramp would you be affected by this. All firmwares are on 125% EXCEPT for all of the Steady Aim builds. Only the first ever Steady Aim build (called SA0) was on the regular 125% scale. The rest of the SA builds were on 100% scale. And if you are on a gold build such as 20160405 or 20170103 then you can rest assured that you are on 125%.

Personally, yes, I found the curve that I was using to feel better on 125% scale. But it is a subjective thing and someone else might feel differently about it. If you are already used to your current curve at 100% scale, then changing it now might feel weird to you but you could always give it a shot.

On the plus side, if you use the boost method, you don't have to worry about all this scale nonsense  :P

Also you could probably "convert" your curve to work with a firmware that is using a different scale.

For example, when I was using firmware SA03 and realized the scale was different, I simply tried converting my curve and it did seem to work properly afterwards when I tested in game.

This was my regular curve (which I felt worked good on 125% scale firmwares)



Code: [Select]
>>> XIM4 [Mouse Ballistics] START PASTE >>>
X4MB:AAAAGgA0AC4AMAAwAC4AMgAwADEANgAwADQAMAA1GCIsNkBKVF5ocnyGkJqkrrjCyMjI:X4MB
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

This was what the curve looked like after converting it for use on 100% scale firmwares:



Code: [Select]
>>> XIM4 [Mouse Ballistics] START PASTE >>>
X4MB:AAAAGgA0AC4AMAAwAC4AMgAwADEANgAwADQAMAA1GCIsNkBKVF5ocnyGkJqkrrjCyMjI:X4MB
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

Basically just took the old one and cut it off at 75% to account for the 25% difference in scale.

And to avoid confusion, once again want to state for people who have moved on to using the boost method to not worry about this scaling stuff as it does not affect you.

Okej Thanks for the detailed info. But tbh instead of Messing around changing firmwares etc, this should equal to just play with default curve and boost on Sa03. This should be the same as 125% scale + curve right? I mean its easier for me to Go from curve to boost than Messing with another firmware and this curve shortener. 1 last thing Im on ps4 ur boost on 4800+ is to much, someone wrote 3250 is to Go for ps4 is that correct?

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« Reply #1118 on: 05:24 PM - 06/10/17 »
Okej Thanks for the detailed info. But tbh instead of Messing around changing firmwares etc, this should equal to just play with default curve and boost on Sa03. This should be the same as 125% scale + curve right? I mean its easier for me to Go from curve to boost than Messing with another firmware and this curve shortener. 1 last thing Im on ps4 ur boost on 4800+ is to much, someone wrote 3250 is to Go for ps4 is that correct?

Yes, the value I posted will definitely be too much for PS4 users (the same way using a 12.0 curve would be too much for PS4 users). So I would go with the 3250 and adjust accordingly if it feels off.

The only thing about boost values is that it will be harder to dial in perfectly. So I would start with that number and if it feels great, then stick with it but if it does not, start lowering or increasing it in increments of 50 or 100.
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« Reply #1119 on: 05:44 PM - 06/10/17 »
Okej Thanks for the detailed info. But tbh instead of Messing around changing firmwares etc, this should equal to just play with default curve and boost on Sa03. This should be the same as 125% scale + curve right? I mean its easier for me to Go from curve to boost than Messing with another firmware and this curve shortener. 1 last thing Im on ps4 ur boost on 4800+ is to much, someone wrote 3250 is to Go for ps4 is that correct?

Yes, the value I posted will definitely be too much for PS4 users (the same way using a 12.0 curve would be too much for PS4 users). So I would go with the 3250 and adjust accordingly if it feels off.

The only thing about boost values is that it will be harder to dial in perfectly. So I would start with that number and if it feels great, then stick with it but if it does not, start lowering or increasing it in increments of 50 or 100.

Ok one last question. SA03 with 100% scale without curve but with boost equals a 125% scale firmware with curve No boost, right?


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« Reply #1120 on: 05:51 PM - 06/10/17 »
Okej Thanks for the detailed info. But tbh instead of Messing around changing firmwares etc, this should equal to just play with default curve and boost on Sa03. This should be the same as 125% scale + curve right? I mean its easier for me to Go from curve to boost than Messing with another firmware and this curve shortener. 1 last thing Im on ps4 ur boost on 4800+ is to much, someone wrote 3250 is to Go for ps4 is that correct?

Yes, the value I posted will definitely be too much for PS4 users (the same way using a 12.0 curve would be too much for PS4 users). So I would go with the 3250 and adjust accordingly if it feels off.

The only thing about boost values is that it will be harder to dial in perfectly. So I would start with that number and if it feels great, then stick with it but if it does not, start lowering or increasing it in increments of 50 or 100.

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Okej Thanks for the detailed info. But tbh instead of Messing around changing firmwares etc, this should equal to just play with default curve and boost on Sa03. This should be the same as 125% scale + curve right? I mean its easier for me to Go from curve to boost than Messing with another firmware and this curve shortener. 1 last thing Im on ps4 ur boost on 4800+ is to much, someone wrote 3250 is to Go for ps4 is that correct?

Ok one last question. SA03 with 100% scale without curve but with boost equals a 125% scale firmware with curve No boost, right?

Yes, the value I posted will definitely be too much for PS4 users (the same way using a 12.0 curve would be too much for PS4 users). So I would go with the 3250 and adjust accordingly if it feels off.

The only thing about boost values is that it will be harder to dial in perfectly. So I would start with that number and if it feels great, then stick with it but if it does not, start lowering or increasing it in increments of 50 or 100.

Boost value does not have anything to do with curve scaling I believe, although I will double check with OBsIV.

If you use boost value without curve I don't think it matters if you were using a 100% or 125% scale in the past.



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Re: Post your Overwatch Settings
« Reply #1121 on: 02:46 AM - 06/11/17 »
Can anyone explain the difference between using the curve and using the boost? Are they getting to the same result but with different input? Or are they behaving differently in a way that makes sense?
Boost cuts off the beggining of the curve. Raised curve cuts off the end of the curve. They are both usable and playable, it's personal preference what will feel better.  For Widowmaker and McCree curve will probably feel better, for Tracer or Genji boost would probably feel better.

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« Reply #1122 on: 09:00 AM - 06/11/17 »
Can anyone explain the difference between using the curve and using the boost? Are they getting to the same result but with different input? Or are they behaving differently in a way that makes sense?
Boost cuts off the beggining of the curve. Raised curve cuts off the end of the curve. They are both usable and playable, it's personal preference what will feel better.  For Widowmaker and McCree curve will probably feel better, for Tracer or Genji boost would probably feel better.

I vote Boost personally.
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« Reply #1123 on: 10:48 AM - 06/11/17 »
Tried boost and felt great with widow and mccree!

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« Reply #1124 on: 11:49 AM - 06/11/17 »
Haven't been here in a while and seen all the new configs to try out but Just can't get the hang of the linear ramp configs. It just felt slightly off to me, started dropping sr trynna to see what it's about but I guess I'm just so use to exponential ramp I can't adjust. Good job at solving the linear ramp problem though guys  ;)
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