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Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
« Reply #300 on: 07:00 AM - 10/28/15 »
Just one question.  I would love to use the thumbstick from PS4 on my XBOX one.  Is that possible through the Xim 4?  I would hate to spend the money and find out it won't work.

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Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
« Reply #301 on: 02:23 AM - 10/30/15 »
Hello all,

I'm new to the community here and was wondering if anyone else is also using a mouse + keyboard setup and doesn't have a mouse / keyboard that internally can store macros.

I'm using a Razer Deathadder Chroma (I just don't like the ergonomics of the G502) together with a Razer Blackwidow Chroma and therefore can't use any macros. I hence am struggling with useful key assignments for getting the different Destiny Sub Configs activated properly in the XIM ... like activating / deactivating the sparrow config ... same goes for sprint and ADS.

Right now I activate the Sprint Sub Config by pressing the Middle Mouse Button (my sprint button).
Deactivation is triggered by ADSing or moving backwards. When I don't hold the ADS button down anymore I automatically switch back to the HIP Sub Config.
For de-/activating the Sparrow Sub Config I have not yet found a good solution, thus I'm not using it at all. I normally just push my sprint key while sitting on the sparrow to get the Sprint Sub Config activated as it works pretty well for me while being on the sparrow as well.

Has anyone got a recommendation for me on this concern?


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Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
« Reply #302 on: 07:35 PM - 11/01/15 »
I ended up just using all the curves individually as i use a KB/M.

Though, a strange problem has occurred. In the bindings I select crouch as the C key on the KB but it doesn't work, when I map the C key to the highlight character selection, it then crouches.

Any idea why this may happen?

Cheers.
« Last Edit: 02:21 PM - 11/02/15 by hsjyes »

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Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
« Reply #303 on: 02:44 PM - 11/02/15 »
I hope this isn't a stupid question but why the 8000 dpi?
You have the Logitech G502 that goes up to 12k dpi, I thought with the Xim you wanted your dpi as high as it can go.

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Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
« Reply #304 on: 06:06 PM - 11/02/15 »
Some say that just get a better feel @8000. personal preference really.
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Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
« Reply #305 on: 12:17 PM - 11/04/15 »
Was hoping for some help.  I can't seem to get my y axis look to be fast enough.  I have hunters blink jump over me and by the time I can turn I'm dead.

It doesn't seem like the y axis is -that- slow with a controller.  I've tried adjusting the hip sensitivity but haven't had any success, and really, I don't want the x axis to be much faster anyways.

Any thoughts?

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Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
« Reply #306 on: 01:43 PM - 11/04/15 »
Here's the other thing that is really annoying...  I seem to just get absolutely dominated at close in shotgun play.  Screen doesn't scroll fast enough, gun seems to jump.. I don't know.  It's great at medium range / pulse rifle play. 

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Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
« Reply #307 on: 04:05 PM - 11/04/15 »
Was hoping for some help.  I can't seem to get my y axis look to be fast enough.  I have hunters blink jump over me and by the time I can turn I'm dead.

It doesn't seem like the y axis is -that- slow with a controller.  I've tried adjusting the hip sensitivity but haven't had any success, and really, I don't want the x axis to be much faster anyways.

Any thoughts?

What I did to counter situations like this is bind my LEFT and RIGHT pan button on my G502 mouse wheel. Helps me significantly. What I mean by this is Left pan would be look/turn left and Right pan would be look/turn right. How I achieved this setting? In XIM manager under the keyboard tab ( If I'm not mistaken )  /right stick. I binded those actions to the mouse wheel pan buttons. Hope this helps.

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« Last Edit: 04:16 PM - 11/04/15 by R3MiX »
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Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
« Reply #308 on: 05:47 PM - 11/04/15 »
RML I've been using your setup with some tweaks for sometime and they are great.  Now that I'm getting more into sniping I'm having some issues.  In the heat of battle, especially ToO, I swipe to quickly or over accelerate which causes a couple things:

1.  Arced reticle path instead of nice straight line
2.  "Flashing Lights" or gone beyond max turn speed. (I know of destiny's for design after following mist, you and others post)

Your normal ADS curve is great for me in all things but sniping.  So in the last couple of days I've setup another config for sniping starting with your ADS and tweaking:

1.  I can adjust the Y/X ratio to get a flatter reticle path but then of course it feels to slow especially when trying to track a Jumping player. So that's not working.
2. Lowering the sensitivity doesn't work b/c I'm to slow to get on target
3. I've taken your ADS and flat lined the curve at about 50 to limit the speed which is the best I've come up with.

So at a loss I'm and hoping you can come up with a curve to help me.  This is no fault of anyone's but mine by not limiting my scoped swipe speed.  But maybe you can suggest a curve?

Not at home yet but will post curves when home.

Running G502
DPI - 12k @ 1k polling. 
ADS Mouse Sense at 5
Snipe Config Sense at 5
After using your sens/dpi/pollrate I've found these settings feel more fluid.

Thanks for any suggestions and I'll append when I'm home.


« Last Edit: 08:25 PM - 11/04/15 by Kochise »

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Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
« Reply #309 on: 11:54 AM - 11/05/15 »
Holy crap guys, this thread is like the energizer bunny! ;)

Sry, I haven't been around much lately. I'll try to catch up here a little, glad to see people are still benefitting from this setup.  :)

First of all, Loki, that Nav is SICK Lol ... nice job. I mean sure it's not super pleasing to the eyes, but it's comfort and playability that matters right? I keep waiting for the next "NAV" to come out, not sure what it will be or when but we really need something new and fresh for a wand.

Just one question.  I would love to use the thumbstick from PS4 on my XBOX one.  Is that possible through the Xim 4?  I would hate to spend the money and find out it won't work.

The only way to achieve this is by using the PS4 controller in slot 2 in place of a keyboard etc. Not ideal, but you can do it. You can also remap controller buttons when using two controllers in this manner.


Hello all,

I'm new to the community here and was wondering if anyone else is also using a mouse + keyboard setup and doesn't have a mouse / keyboard that internally can store macros.

Has anyone got a recommendation for me on this concern?

No on board memory is why I stay away from Razer mice unfortunately. I don't believe you can activate sparrow, go to orbit or heavy weapon with a single button press without macros. The reason is, they all have a bit of a delay value to them.


I hope this isn't a stupid question but why the 8000 dpi?
You have the Logitech G502 that goes up to 12k dpi, I thought with the Xim you wanted your dpi as high as it can go.

At the time when the quote was made by OBsIV to run at your highest DPI, the highest out there was around 5700. Mice have really been focusing on raising this value since then and it's literally getting ridiculous TBH.

At the end of the day, what really matters is what YOU prefer. I prefer a minimum of 4000 and a max of 8000. When I play above 8000 it gets too sensitive for me and causes a feeling of jitters. Your mouse pad also has a lot to do with this. Soft pads generally feel less responsive then hard pads, IMO.


I ended up just using all the curves individually as i use a KB/M.

Though, a strange problem has occurred. In the bindings I select crouch as the C key on the KB but it doesn't work, when I map the C key to the highlight character selection, it then crouches.

Any idea why this may happen?

Cheers.

The only reason that shouldn't work is if C was being used for something else already that was cancelling it out or something.


Was hoping for some help.  I can't seem to get my y axis look to be fast enough.  I have hunters blink jump over me and by the time I can turn I'm dead.

It doesn't seem like the y axis is -that- slow with a controller.  I've tried adjusting the hip sensitivity but haven't had any success, and really, I don't want the x axis to be much faster anyways.

Any thoughts?

Did you try changing your Y,X ratio? It starts out at 1. Try raising it in small increments until you like it. I.E. 1.10, 1.20, 1.30, etc.


Here's the other thing that is really annoying...  I seem to just get absolutely dominated at close in shotgun play.  Screen doesn't scroll fast enough, gun seems to jump.. I don't know.  It's great at medium range / pulse rifle play. 

Yes, that is the IN GAME aim assist messing with your aim. This is where practically every game struggles with XIM. It's no fault of XIM it's just the way look mechanics are created to help controller users. Generally the closer you are to your target and the faster they are moving the more aim assist kicks in. You have to try to find your happy medium to combat this. It's a BIG part of the reason I use an acceleration curve with ADS, it helps push through this. There's really two ways to combat this. 1 - A more aggressive curve or 2 - higher sensitivity. I set this up with the idea of being close to target before ADS so minimal movement is needed after adsing. Shotgun I rarely ADS with, I almost always shoot from the HIP as there is no penalty (bullet spread, etc.) or atleast there wasn't the last time I played. You shouldn't feel very much aim assist when shooting from the hip.


RML I've been using your setup with some tweaks for sometime and they are great.  Now that I'm getting more into sniping I'm having some issues.  In the heat of battle, especially ToO, I swipe to quickly or over accelerate which causes a couple things:

1.  Arced reticle path instead of nice straight line
2.  "Flashing Lights" or gone beyond max turn speed. (I know of destiny's for design after following mist, you and others post)

Your normal ADS curve is great for me in all things but sniping.  So in the last couple of days I've setup another config for sniping starting with your ADS and tweaking:

1.  I can adjust the Y/X ratio to get a flatter reticle path but then of course it feels to slow especially when trying to track a Jumping player. So that's not working.
2. Lowering the sensitivity doesn't work b/c I'm to slow to get on target
3. I've taken your ADS and flat lined the curve at about 50 to limit the speed which is the best I've come up with.

So at a loss I'm and hoping you can come up with a curve to help me.  This is no fault of anyone's but mine by not limiting my scoped swipe speed.  But maybe you can suggest a curve?

Not at home yet but will post curves when home.

Running G502
DPI - 12k @ 1k polling. 
ADS Mouse Sense at 5
Snipe Config Sense at 5
After using your sens/dpi/pollrate I've found these settings feel more fluid.

Thanks for any suggestions and I'll append when I'm home.




Ahh yes, LOL ... Sniping! I actually had a sniping setup added to my OP when I first created this. I removed it because it was creating too much confusion. Basically I made another sub config and lowered the sensitivity for long range sniping. I think I even had a video showing the benefits at long range. Yeah, that was fun. ;)

Thanks for sharing your ideas!  ;D


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Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
« Reply #310 on: 12:32 PM - 11/05/15 »


Ahh yes, LOL ... Sniping! I actually had a sniping setup added to my OP when I first created this. I removed it because it was creating too much confusion. Basically I made another sub config and lowered the sensitivity for long range sniping. I think I even had a video showing the benefits at long range. Yeah, that was fun. ;)

Thanks for sharing your ideas!  ;D

Do you still have access to that snipe config or was it just lower sensitivity with the same curve as normal ADS?

Last night some different ideas such as making a curve that was 1:1 upto about 35 then I set the "end point" at about 60 and connected the two.  This is feeling pretty good so far.  I'll keep experimenting.

I'm curious if anyone else in this thread uses a seperate config for sniping in Destiny.  If you know what I'm talking about then you probably do and I would love to see what curves you came up with!

By the way thanks RML for your time and work here!

Oh and this snipe config is separate than the Normal ADS which is similar to the one you have in the OP. I bind the snipe config to the thumb button on the G502 for ease of access.
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Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
« Reply #311 on: 05:35 PM - 11/05/15 »
3. Click on the 3 small dots to the right of the configs color block to open the drop down.
4. Paste the code below IN ITS ENTIRETY! To ensure you copy the entire code click on the word "Select" above the code. This will highlight everything that must be copied.


SOrry for the dumb question, I just got my Xim. When I click on the 3 dots for the drop down menu, where am I supposed to paste your text? There is no text box that opens. It is just additional toggle options (notify settings activation, notify turn speed exceeded, push to talk)

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Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
« Reply #312 on: 08:10 PM - 11/05/15 »
Full config copy and paste is a new feature and is located below those options you mentioned. You may need to update to the latest beta build located in the Release Candidate section of the forum.

http://xim4.com/community/index.php?board=77.0
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Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
« Reply #313 on: 05:50 PM - 11/06/15 »
I feel like I might be missing something, but when I click the three dots using the 20150816 manager I'm not able to paste anywhere. Any ideas?

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Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
« Reply #314 on: 07:20 PM - 11/06/15 »
Copy is on the left, paste on the right. Do you have this?

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