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Utah lawmakers OK use of firing squad for executions
Utah has passed a bill to allow the use of firing squads for executions if there is a shortage of lethal drugs

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March 10, 2015 8:50PM ET Updated 11:30PM ET
Utah has passed a bill that would make it the only U.S. state to allow firing squads for carrying out a death sentence if there is a shortage of execution drugs.

The 18-10 vote by the state Senate on Tuesday comes as states struggle to obtain lethal injection drugs amid a nationwide shortage.

The measure, approved last month by the Utah House of Representatives, says a firing squad should be used if "the state is unable to lawfully obtain the substance or substances necessary to conduct an execution by lethal intravenous injection 30 or more days" before the date set for the procedure.

The bill's sponsor, Republican Rep. Paul Ray, touted the measure as being a more humane form of execution. Ray argued that using a team of trained marksmen is faster and more humane than the drawn-out deaths that have occurred in botched lethal injections.

Someone executed by gunfire typically dies in three to five seconds, Ray said, "It's a quick bleed-out."

Opponents disagree, saying firing squads are a cruel holdover from the state's Wild West days than can mean a slow death for the condemned and will earn Utah international condemnation.

Whether it will become law in the conservative Western state is unclear: Utah Gov. Gary Herbert, a Republican, won't say if he'll sign the measure. His spokesman, Marty Carpenter, did issue a statement this week acknowledging that the method would give Utah a legitimate backup method if execution drugs are unavailable.

It would reinstate the use of firing squads more than a decade after the state abandoned the practice.

Utah is one of several states seeking new forms of capital punishment after a botched Oklahoma lethal injection last year and one in Arizona that took nearly two hours for the condemned man to die.

Legislation to allow firing squads has been introduced in Arkansas this year. In Wyoming, a measure to allow firing squads if the lethal drugs aren't available died. In Oklahoma, lawmakers are considering legislation that would allow the state to use nitrogen gas to execute inmates.

Utah's proposal keeps lethal injection as the primary method of execution, but it allows for the state to use firing squads if the state cannot obtain lethal injection drugs.

The Washington, D.C.-based Death Penalty Information Center, which opposes capital punishment, says a firing squad is not a foolproof execution method because the inmate could move or shooters could miss the heart, causing a slower, more painful death.

States across the country have struggled to keep up their drug inventories as European manufacturers have refused to sell the lethal concoctions to prisons and corrections departments because of their opposition to the death penalty.

Texas' supply will be used up if the state goes forward with two lethal injections in the next two weeks. The Texas deadline is the most imminent, but other states are struggling, as well.

The head of Utah's prison system has said the state does not have any lethal injection drugs on hand and would have to obtain some in the years ahead if an execution were to be scheduled.

States turning to alternative drugs have been faced with legal challenges from inmates, something Ray has said Utah could sidestep if it has a backup execution plan in place.

Utah lawmakers, concerned about intense media attention, stopped offering inmates the choice of a death by firing squad in 2004. A handful of inmates on Utah's death row were sentenced before the law changed and still have the option of going before a firing squad after their court appeals are exhausted.

Utah's last execution was by a firing squad in 2010, when Ronnie Lee Gardner was executed by five police officers with .30-caliber Winchester rifles. Gardner was convicted of murdering a lawyer inside a Salt Lake City courthouse in 1985.

The state has carried out three executions by firing squad since the U.S. Supreme Court reinstated the death penalty in 1976. Gary Gilmore's death by firing squad in January 1977 was the first execution in the U.S. after the Supreme Court lifted the moratorium.

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it should be death by Bunga-Bunga

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What's a bullet cost?

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I dont think this topic is as controversial as you think because most XIMMERS are pro-gun

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I'm gonna say what I said when you told me about this the first time.

I'd rather get the firing squad over the lethal injection or the chair.

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Of course if I HAD to die, I'd prefer to go down fighting a bear or a shark.

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I dont think this topic is as controversial as you think because most XIMMERS are pro-gun

You can be pro-gun and anti- death penalty, or anti-gun and pro- death penalty.

If they have to do it (they do, it's Utah after all) it should be 40mm cannon fired by computer. But really, why not just bring back the guillotine? Because it's French and therefore anti-american?
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IMO. it should be death by however you caused death.

Only seems fair.

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hey i live there and i didn't even know about it HA , i dunno if it really matters how they die , they should have an rpg firing squad

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IMO. it should be death by however you caused death.

Only seems fair.


I don't think executioners would want to shank people to death tho
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IMO. it should be death by however you caused death.

Only seems fair.


I don't think executioners would want to shank people to death tho

If they can do it on mythbusters......

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I agree with dale for the most brutal crimes but for general execution method i feel the firing squad is not a humane method i guess it is way painful than injection or the agonising chair, they should have considered beheading which is ironically the least painful, even if we hate how brutal it look, but why should we consider our feelings ? and not the one waiting the execution.

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Humane? You only get executed if you are convicted of first degree murder. That means you planned to kill someone and then carried it out. You weren't acting humanely so why should you get to die that way?
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Humane? You only get executed if you are convicted of first degree murder. That means you planned to kill someone and then carried it out. You weren't acting humanely so why should you get to die that way?

Because the Code of Hammurabi is 3700 years old, and our court system produces too many false positives to be executing anyone.
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Humane? You only get executed if you are convicted of first degree murder. That means you planned to kill someone and then carried it out. You weren't acting humanely so why should you get to die that way?

Because the Code of Hammurabi is 3700 years old, and our court system produces too many false positives to be executing anyone.
This.


That's the main reason I'm against the death penalty. I don't trust our judicial system to get it right. Too many have been wrongly convicted over the years.