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Wait.. are you guys saying XB1 should be connected via VGA to get the lowest response time? Is there even a VGA cable for the XB1?

Nope, out of context!!! :O I will likely use VGA depending on if i can find a converter cable that works and has no latency

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I am no expert but I'm finding this difficult to digest...  VGA really......
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CRT monitor or the old picture tube TV's are the best way to get very low level input lag, someone make a HDMI to RF adapter lol
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CRT screens with VGA will indeed have very very low input lag.  Not non existent, but low.  A good LCD PC monitor over DVI/HDMI will do about as good.  With a LCD screen you also get the benefit of modern connectors, cables, pixel density, sharpness, blah blah blah.


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I am no expert but I'm finding this difficult to digest...  VGA really......

That's what your mom said! :0 j/k yeah, some googling will prove it for TVs

CRT monitor or the old picture tube TV's are the best way to get very low level input lag, someone make a HDMI to RF adapter lol

Too true, but who wants one of those old things :)

CRT screens with VGA will indeed have very very low input lag.  Not non existent, but low.  A good LCD PC monitor over DVI/HDMI will do about as good.  With a LCD screen you also get the benefit of modern connectors, cables, pixel density, sharpness, blah blah blah.

TVs is the argument...you can switch to PC monitors!!! that's cheating because they handle this all much better.

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The Leo Bodnar lag tester is dead simple.

http://www.leobodnar.com/products/LagTest/

I want...I want..

Can also run camera test...

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/input-lag

or hopefully that link just has it
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Or... you could not use a tv.

If you are going to use a TV though, buy a Plasma. Plasma response times, refresh rates, frame rates are very similar to the old school CRT monitors some people swear by for gaming. I realize it's Wikipedia, but check this for a nice dumbed down comparison of CRT, LCD, Plasma, and OLED. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_CRT,_LCD,_Plasma,_and_OLED

I went from a cheap LCD TV to a Plasma last year and noticed a gigantic difference in response time. My COD k/d ratio went from like 1.5 to 4. It was a huge difference.

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Or... you could not use a tv.

If you are going to use a TV though, buy a Plasma. Plasma response times, refresh rates, frame rates are very similar to the old school CRT monitors some people swear by for gaming. I realize it's Wikipedia, but check this for a nice dumbed down comparison of CRT, LCD, Plasma, and OLED. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_CRT,_LCD,_Plasma,_and_OLED

I went from a cheap LCD TV to a Plasma last year and noticed a gigantic difference in response time. My COD k/d ratio went from like 1.5 to 4. It was a huge difference.

plasma's have the highest refresh rate not lowest input lag...(always)

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So true, family member has a 600hrz plasma, gaming on it looks awesome but lags lime heck
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"Analog signals like VGA are internally converted to digital introducing frame lag"
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If you use an HDMI to VGA adapter cable on your next gen-console, you're going to have a bad time.
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Pladale... I'm surprised that increasing the refresh rate would add lag.  Why is this?

TV's don't do high refresh rates like 120hz monitors do (Only some TV's with HDMI v1.4 do by Overclocking) They just take each frame & repeat it 2x (120hz) or 4x (240hz) from a 60hz source.

Basically you are just seen every frame twice or more which adds latency. Disable it & You'll notice a huge difference in responsiveness  :)

Actually, the reason why things like higher refresh rates do add latency is not because it's doing what the guy above said - it's actually the processing of the images before you see them on your television to make it look like it's running at a higher frame rate than the original source material. I can explain in more detail on how it all works, if you want.

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Follow the steps I. My last posts regarding hdmi1 vs 2 and you will find a better solution....
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