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Re: fm9 akimbo
« Reply #15 on: 08:45 AM - 12/21/11 »
Dual FM9's do not destroy ANY gun at close range.  Me and my SPAS win the quick draw contests against dual FM9 kiddies all the time.


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Re: fm9 akimbo
« Reply #16 on: 10:05 AM - 12/21/11 »
As if I would give a rats crap about your oppinions.

Show me anyone else with the same fmg9 stats as I have (precision and kd). I could use akimbo mp9s or akimbo scorpions, they are almost the same, have slighly lower ROF but less recoil.

Think what u want, I counter panic knifing and shot guns with it (striker lamers etc.).

At least you have to be close to your enemies with it and not stay half a mile away like Type 95 campers.

Well @ rabbit- you never played vs someone like me before ;) Every single time when you need more than 1 shot, you wont get to fire the second one. And from what Ive seen the Spas isnt a reliable 1hk shotgun. Even Sandy Ravage struggles with it sometimes in mw3, and he was born with a spas in his hands..

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Re: fm9 akimbo
« Reply #17 on: 10:10 AM - 12/21/11 »
How, exactly, do you "counter" a panic knife? Either he one-hits you, or misses - in which case he's a sitting duck for any gun in the game, including a feather duster and lip-plumper.

If you're getting him"before" he panic-knives, then it's not a counter; he didn't panic-knife, so nothing's been countered, you simply reacted before he did or had the better connection.
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Re: fm9 akimbo
« Reply #18 on: 10:25 AM - 12/21/11 »
Are you really that silly or you just trolling?

As if its hard to understand that I mean avoid or reduce panic knifing. When Im using secondary weapons or primary weapons with slow ROF people have more time to panic knife, and I got knifed more often. With akimbo MP9s and FMG9s however, I hardly get knifed any more, because theyre dead within split second.

Its also to compensate bad connections sometimes, like it was in black ops- spray with high ROF weapons--> more bullets in shorter time period fired--> more likely to kill the opponent before he kills you.

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Re: fm9 akimbo
« Reply #19 on: 10:34 AM - 12/21/11 »
The only time the SPAS (with Damage) doesn't one hit kill is when the guy was more than 20 feet away.  If I expect a shootout where the SPAS will be out of range I have the SMAW ready to go.  I'm not saying that I predict every encounter perfectly... but most of the time I have the right weapon ready to go when I need it.


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Re: fm9 akimbo
« Reply #20 on: 10:53 AM - 12/21/11 »
Same here, any time I enter a building or small areas- I switch to akimbo MPs. Just smart playing nothing else. And because I like to rush, its quite often I get to use akimbo MPs.

2 most used weapons I have are dildo gun and fmgs. So u can tell Im not a distance-warrior, although dildo gun is also very strong at mid range.

The only problem is that secondary mouse sens kicks in for akimbo weapons, and Im not willing to be pressing some switchers etc. only for the secondary weapon. It would take too much time and be too confusing.
« Last Edit: 10:57 AM - 12/21/11 by Souver »

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Re: fm9 akimbo
« Reply #21 on: 11:25 AM - 12/21/11 »
They will most likely nerf these. I cant imagine that they intended the "akimbo fm9s" to be so powerful.

Everybody uses these in search (where everybody uses deadsilence/assassin).. its basically like a panic knife with range haha.

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Re: fm9 akimbo
« Reply #22 on: 11:37 AM - 12/21/11 »
Well they got nerfed already according to patch notes from IW. They didnt state how exactly the FMG got nerfed though. Ppl speculate they got more recoil.

However akimbo MP9s are also very strong, not as strong as fmgs but still very good in close fights. If fmgs become unusable Ill switch to them, or even akimbo skorpions- which are super precise at mid range and have virtually no recoil, the only problem is- I find the ROF very slow, even double skorpions. So they are less effective at super close range than mp9s/fmgs, but more effective at close-mid range.

If you like single weapon secondary- I highly recommend the MP9, it has a very small recoil and I find it to be as good or even better than some bad SMGs (like MP5 and PM-9).
« Last Edit: 11:46 AM - 12/21/11 by Souver »

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Re: fm9 akimbo
« Reply #23 on: 11:43 AM - 12/21/11 »
I've noticed absolutely no changes since the supposed "Nerf" to the FMG's.  I swear they simply state that they change things without actually changing anything, simply to try to get people off their backs and hope for a placebo effect.   Hence, why they never actually say what they changed, unless it's something obvious like the CM901 + under barrel attachment glitch.


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Re: fm9 akimbo
« Reply #24 on: 11:46 AM - 12/21/11 »
I hope they nerf all the akimbos even more. Maybe to the level of akimbo pythons in BO. They take away from the "xim advantage"

... But I understand why they are so powerful in MW3, add it to the list of ways they're trying to even the playing field for the nubs.

MW4 will include "consolation kills" .. if you die more than 3 times then they give you a free kill heh
« Last Edit: 11:52 AM - 12/21/11 by drharney »

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Re: fm9 akimbo
« Reply #25 on: 11:55 AM - 12/21/11 »
FMGs do take away xim advantage in some way, but if youre good with them- the xim will benefit you nevertheless (fast twitch shots when facing more opponents) and more precise shooting at mid distance.

I didnt notice any difference after the nerf too, Im not quite sure if they had the same recoil as they do now. However the Type 95 seems to need more hits at long range after the nerf, at least it felt this way when Ive tried it. The weird thing- IW stated they only changed the hip spread of the type 95 (means slightly bigger crosshair, and therefore bigger hip spread when shooting from the hip).

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Re: fm9 akimbo
« Reply #26 on: 12:03 PM - 12/21/11 »
FMGs do take away xim advantage in some way, but if youre good with them- the xim will benefit you nevertheless (fast twitch shots when facing more opponents) and more precise shooting at mid distance.

I didnt notice any difference after the nerf too, Im not quite sure if they had the same recoil as they do now. However the Type 95 seems to need more hits at long range after the nerf, at least it felt this way when Ive tried it. The weird thing- IW stated they only changed the hip spread of the type 95 (means slightly bigger crosshair, and therefore bigger hip spread when shooting from the hip).

I've always needed 2 or more bursts from long range with the Type 95 from long range...usually 3 if the target is moving.  I haven't noticed any difference in this either.  I've never really used it for hip firing, so I can't say whether or not that's changed.

I remember the Famas being supposedly nerfed in Black Ops, but I never noticed any change in that.

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Re: fm9 akimbo
« Reply #27 on: 02:41 PM - 12/21/11 »
As if I would give a rats crap about your oppinions.

Likewise, but I wasn't trying to start a war of words, just defending what I believe as far as weapon cheapness.

I have a specialist striker setup with akimbo fmg9's as my secondary. So I know about using rush tactics and I have used both weapons extensively. The fmg9's have waay more range, and up close are probably just as deadly, if not more ,due to lag favoring the higher rpm weapons.

They are waaay easier to own with than a striker.

I will liken this to people complaining about Quickscoping being lame( which it is =0  ), and then realizing it is not nearly as easy to pull off as they thought. The shotguns are the same way, you get busted in one shot running around a corner, and then call the dude a noob for using a striker. Truthfully, he could have busted you just as easy with akimbo fmg9's, which anybody can unlock akimbo for and use effectively.

And I agree on the MP9, I had 1000 kills for that in no time, mp9 is a laser, you can pull long-shots all day. It has nice irons too if you like to run exmags. I'd say it out-clases alot of the smg's in many different ways. Infinite aim assist? Are you kidding me? This alone makes it more deadly then most smg's at range. And to add akimbo for close-range domination is just the icing on the cake.
The MP class as a whole is just OP. Pistol's are now worthless ( still fun as hell to own with though), shotties are next to worthless until leveled, and smg's only excel in niche situations.

If you completely remove the MP class from the game, I think it instantly becomes very well balanced. But that will never happen.

So if you can't beat em, join em!
« Last Edit: 02:55 PM - 12/21/11 by matttehman »
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Re: fm9 akimbo
« Reply #28 on: 03:23 PM - 12/21/11 »
yeah i gotta go with a dual FM9 user calling a striker user "lame" is like pot calling the kettle black......

souver, you have a real self worth issue...... anytime you mention stats or other BS, you get SUPER defensive, and ALWAYS try to spin the topic to look like your some god given videogame prophet.... honestly man, eat some goddamned humble pie and @#$%......

HFOGTFO...... thats have fun or get the fu*k out.....
« Last Edit: 03:35 PM - 12/21/11 by xavier_s37 »

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