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General Discussion / Re: NEED ANSWERS

« on: Today at 03:24 AM »

One of the USB cables on the kb is for power. Run that to a USB wall adapter. Consult your kb manual for more info.

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XIM APEX Discussions / Re: 1000hz on pc vs console?

« on: Today at 12:36 AM »

XIM APEX polls input devices at the defined Response Rate, or the default rate of 125Hz with Expert settings disabled. It also outputs to the console at the RR, with Sync playing a modifier role in there somewhere.

It's not clear how Sync works (it's OBsIV's secret sauce and he's not sharing it) and I believe XIM APEX still polls to the console at the RR. Perhaps Sync interpolates polling rates on-board at the Sync rate, while maintaining the Response Rate.

It may be possible to check this in a Titan Two script. If Sync equates to Output Polling (as I've suggested previously for the sake of simplicity), XIM APEX should desync with a Titan Two, e.g APEX input at 500Hz, output at 60Hz, T2 input at 500Hz, output at 500Hz would desync and toss purple lights on APEX. That doesn't happen, so my guess is Sync is more or less XIM APEX input interpolation rather than output polling.

In short, XIM APEX polls mouse & keyboard at the same rate it reports to the PS4, that's what Response Rate does. This is easily tested - try setting a mouse to 125Hz polling and APEX to 1000Hz RR and see what happens.

The opposite (lower RR than polling) is when input packets are dropped, but that doesn't cause problems as input from the mouse is in sync with output to the console at the RR. Ergo, there is no input lag generated by XIM APEX.

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XIM APEX Discussions / Re: Cheap mouse that works?

« on: 04:03 PM - 12/06/19 »

G203 / G102 is excellent for the price. I use the wireless G305, which has the same shell. G203 uses the Mercury sensor and plays very well with XIM.

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XIM 4 Discussions / Re: XIM APex?

« on: 01:43 AM - 12/06/19 »

What do you mean by "Uh oh" ceebs? I believe you meant "Ohmmm".

Frash is my life guide and spiritual teacher. I follow wherever he leads. Embrace him as your saviour and enter a state of permanent gaming bliss..."Ohmmm" 

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Game Support / Re: Power failure

« on: 01:38 AM - 12/06/19 »

Welcome to the community.

Try power cycling the Xbox One. Instructions here -
https://beta.support.xbox.com/help/hardware-network/power/restart-or-power-cycle-console

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XIM APEX Discussions / Re: 1000hz on pc vs console?

« on: 01:36 AM - 12/06/19 »

There is no delayed input if the mouse & keyboard are running at 1000Hz, along with the XIM APEX. That's 1ms end to end.

Unless you're physically pressing buttons and moving sticks on the controller, there is no input registering from it.

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XIM APEX Discussions / Re: 1000hz on pc vs console?

« on: 04:48 PM - 12/05/19 »

So authentication is over USB that why it needs to stay connected...
Wait. If Xim wasn’t in the mix & the Ds4 was being used wirelessly how would that work?

If the DS4 is wirelessly connected to the PS4, it still responds to authentication pings.

I don't know the specifics of why the controller needs to be wired to XIM APEX (Titan Two supports wireless controllers), but USB is likely the lowest common factor (PlayStation and Xbox use different wireless protocols) and isn't reliant on battery life or controller activity to continue to function (wireless controllers will turn off after awhile and need to be recharged).

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General Discussion / Re: The Azeron - XIM out of the box

« on: 04:10 PM - 12/05/19 »

I don't like the curved handrest, it forces your hand into a specific position that may be uncomfortable. In my case, the ergo rest caused impingement and pain near the base of my thumb as soon as I started using the Azeron.

The flat wrist rest allows for greater range of hand position (left/right) and rotation (internally/externally) and doesn't cause this problem.

I would 100% recommend the Azeron Compact with flat wrist rest over the Classic with ergo rest. The only question mark is the length of the finger bars, and that depends on hand size and preferred grip.

I got the shortest finger length possible on my second Azeron because I don't have huge paws (17.5cm), I hold my keyboard hand in a relaxed claw position and my most used Azeron bindings are set to pulls on the buttons closest to the palm, so the short finger bars are more comfortable for me.

My biggest recommendation is to affix the Azeron to your desk using either Blu-Tac or double-sided velcro tape. I used Blu-Tac for most of this year, but it started going off and can't hold the Azeron in place anymore, and pulled on the screws connecting the wrist rest to the Azeron (easily tightened).

On the weekend I banged industrial-strength velcro tape under the Azeron and there is zero movement now. The only problem is I need to use a butter knife to separate the velcro to remove the Azeron from the desk for maintenance, but that's a once every 6 months thing.

I also like to swap between Azeron and Ergodox EZ depending on the game I play, but I'm so comfortable with Azeron now that I'm happy to stick with it full-time and mount it permanently in position.

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XIM APEX Discussions / Re: USB extension cable question

« on: 04:01 PM - 12/05/19 »

If you have a power adapter or powered USB hub connected to XIM APEX, you don't need a repeater cable in most setups. If you had a 15m USB cable run, that's when I'd be considering one.

The lag created by the USB cable will be in the vicinity of 1/2,000,000th of a second per metre, which is the speed it takes an electron to travel along the copper wire.

The bottleneck is the USB port, which can process data at 1ms at best. At the absolute worst, you're adding 1ms of lag via the USB cable, but when data is travelling significantly faster than that along the cable, it's still hitting within the 1ms frame and won't be adding any lag.

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Game Support / Re: Xim working after turning off controller.

« on: 03:42 PM - 12/05/19 »

Both OBsIV and J2Kbr have confirmed that their devices operate at a stable 1000Hz to the console and the console will respond at the same rate.

XIM APEX and Titan Two are proxies for the controller and will continue to function at 1000Hz (or the defined Response Rate / Output Polling) whether or not a controller is connected to them. XIM APEX will pump out the set RR, regardless of the presence of a controller, so I suspect it's placebo effect.

The controller itself is largely irrelevant, except for initialisation or authentication handshakes that tell the console "I'm using the right controller". If the controller connected to XIM APEX is sitting there doing nothing, then no input is passed through to the console (XIM doesn't forward gyro data, which is constantly generated by a DS4 controller).

Titan Two can also function completely without a DS4 controller on PS4, but it requires a controller key file to be installed on a micro-SD card. That file is illegal, so while it works, it's not recommended

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Game Support / Re: Xim working after turning off controller.

« on: 03:21 PM - 12/05/19 »

Xbox One, PS3 and Xbox 360 only need a controller connected on initialisation for a controller adapter like XIM APEX to be recognised as that controller.

I know with Titan One, Titan Two, CronusMAX and Mayflash Magic-NS, those controllers call all be disconnected and replaced with another controller, or in XIM's case, potentially left unplugged in favour of m/kb (though I've never tried myself).

This doesn't work on PS4 as the console will send an authentication ping every 10 mins to check if the DS4 controller is still connected. If the DS4 fails to respond, the connection will time out and disconnect the XIM.

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XIM APEX Discussions / Re: 1000hz on pc vs console?

« on: 03:15 PM - 12/05/19 »

I’ve disconnected my Ds4 from my Xim & to my surprise the mouse & keyboard remained active for a short time.
So does that mean the Ds4 stays connected via Bluetooth to Xim? PS4? Or both??

Neither. PS4 sends an authentication ping to the DS4 every 10 mins. The mouse & keyboard will continue to work until the PS4 sends the next auth ping and the DS4 fails to respond.

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XIM APEX Discussions / Re: 1000hz on pc vs console?

« on: 03:37 AM - 12/05/19 »

USB only, at up to 1000Hz, depending on Response Rate.

A Titan Two will connect to PS4 over BT via the Titan Expansion Kit. So XIM APEX can be wired to the T2, with the T2 wireless to PS4.

I've yet to try this setup, I'll give it a crack when I get some spare time.

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XIM APEX Discussions / Re: USB extension cable question

« on: 03:35 AM - 12/05/19 »

It won't add any lag. An active (repeater) USB cable is typically reserved for runs over 5m. If you're using less than 5m, a passive USB cable should do the job.

In both instances additional power may be required on the XIM APEX USB hub, depending on the length of the USB cable. I had a 5m repeater in my setup a few years ago and it used to bomb my XIM if the controller was even slightly undercharged. A powered USB hub connected to my XIM solved the problem.

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XIM 4 Discussions / Re: Everyone opinions needed low dpi or high dpi

« on: 04:09 PM - 12/04/19 »

High DPI = less AA and higher risk of jitter.
Low DPI = more AA and higher risk of pixel skipping.

Choose your poison.