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Beta / Re: FEEDBACK: Aiming behavior differences (upgrade vs Config re-create)
« on: 03:07 PM - 06/28/19 »
I've updated to 0613 and it is hard to say whether or not there is a distinct difference between the firmware. Since the update a few weeks ago to Apex Legends, everything has been inconsistent for me. The server went from 60 hz to 20hz essentially because packet splitting was implemented there. On top of that, default server assignments were broken, and now you have people from random parts of the country / world being assigned to what would be your best server (via ping) or you yourself may be placed in another server. Its caused all kinds of frustration for me, so it is very hard to say whether or not I feel a difference caused by the XIM or not. No match has felt the same for me to use as a baseline.
I was using advanced look controls with Apex Legends prior to update 0601, but I switched back to default as they felt horrible after the update (this could have been the lag that followed the update though, incorrect server assignments, netcode issues, etc) but I had seen others say the advanced look controls felt horrible after the Apex Legends update as well, so I switched back to the ST supported default settings.
After seeing this thread, I decided to factory reset and reinstall 0613 firmware. Rebuilt my current config from scratch as people have mentioned. I am using 7,7 in game on common sync and 500 hz polling, as suggested by d1sable. 150 SAB on ADS only, and some secondary key assignments for things like ping, change weapon, crouch, and game menu. I am not using any kind of aux configs and I have not used XIM link for a little while now.
I did go into training mode and everything seemed to work fine though, I have practiced quite a bit there doing flick shots, tracking, target switching, etc. No noticeable unpredictable aim behavior. I am wondering if it has something to do with aim assist in the game? I believe it is also present in the training mode, but maybe not as strong. Could the terrible performance with lag and dropped frame rate in Apex heavily influence your aim, similar to how smoothing could increase AA? This has been a problem since the start of this game, in game has not felt nowhere near as good as the training range, I don't know if it is just network and hardware performance or if there is something else going on in the background there, perhaps it was made worse by the Apex Legends update and/or the firmware update some how.
For those experiencing these issues, have you tried it in training mode with the same issues? Can you post a video so I know better what to look for? Is there any other variables that are in your setup like XIM Link or Titan 2, that may not be in others? This issue is just too inconsistent for anyone to drill down without more information.
In case my thoughts got a little diluted there through that novel, my main point is:
- I've not noticed a major difference between when I first updated my XIM from 0603 to 0613 firmware
- Could lag / framerate be negatively affecting our aim?
- Is it concrete that this issue is ONLY present in 0613 firmware, or what is the last known "working" firmware?
- Is the issue present in training modes?
- Is the issue constant?
- Define unpredictable aiming behavior so it is better understood, do you aim left and it goes right? etc.
- Does creating a config from scratch completely eliminate your issue to the point where you have noticeable change?
I was using advanced look controls with Apex Legends prior to update 0601, but I switched back to default as they felt horrible after the update (this could have been the lag that followed the update though, incorrect server assignments, netcode issues, etc) but I had seen others say the advanced look controls felt horrible after the Apex Legends update as well, so I switched back to the ST supported default settings.
After seeing this thread, I decided to factory reset and reinstall 0613 firmware. Rebuilt my current config from scratch as people have mentioned. I am using 7,7 in game on common sync and 500 hz polling, as suggested by d1sable. 150 SAB on ADS only, and some secondary key assignments for things like ping, change weapon, crouch, and game menu. I am not using any kind of aux configs and I have not used XIM link for a little while now.
I did go into training mode and everything seemed to work fine though, I have practiced quite a bit there doing flick shots, tracking, target switching, etc. No noticeable unpredictable aim behavior. I am wondering if it has something to do with aim assist in the game? I believe it is also present in the training mode, but maybe not as strong. Could the terrible performance with lag and dropped frame rate in Apex heavily influence your aim, similar to how smoothing could increase AA? This has been a problem since the start of this game, in game has not felt nowhere near as good as the training range, I don't know if it is just network and hardware performance or if there is something else going on in the background there, perhaps it was made worse by the Apex Legends update and/or the firmware update some how.
For those experiencing these issues, have you tried it in training mode with the same issues? Can you post a video so I know better what to look for? Is there any other variables that are in your setup like XIM Link or Titan 2, that may not be in others? This issue is just too inconsistent for anyone to drill down without more information.
In case my thoughts got a little diluted there through that novel, my main point is:
- I've not noticed a major difference between when I first updated my XIM from 0603 to 0613 firmware
- Could lag / framerate be negatively affecting our aim?
- Is it concrete that this issue is ONLY present in 0613 firmware, or what is the last known "working" firmware?
- Is the issue present in training modes?
- Is the issue constant?
- Define unpredictable aiming behavior so it is better understood, do you aim left and it goes right? etc.
- Does creating a config from scratch completely eliminate your issue to the point where you have noticeable change?