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XIM APEX Discussions / Re: What are you guys using? Legacy vs Advanced
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I feel like Legacy is still the goat. The AA is too nice.
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The n52te has a d-pad ... so no analog.does the n52te have an analog stick? Or do you need to mod itAnyone who can comment on that? About to pick one up
Years ago a few forum members modded it and put a stick in, there was a tutorial from roads about taking the left stick out of the xbox controller and putting it into the n52te. Nowadays an analog stick connected to teensy would be used instead. It's fairly straightforward to take the d-pad out of the n52te.
Edit: forgot to say that it's a modded N52te in the picture next to my name ... the little round coloured button switches are the d-pad wires connected up after taking the d-pad out to put the xbox stick in.
I currently have an n52te I was looking to mod with an analog stick. is it easy for a beginner to do?
It's years since I did it by following the tutorial by forum member roads but the pictures have all now gone from that tutorial, and as I said it was a guide for unsoldering the left stick from the xbox verification controller and putting it into the n52te after taking the d-pad out.
Things have progressed a long way since then and now the teensy is used for the stick.If you know what you are doing with teensy ( I don't), and you are able to do a bit of soldering it should be fairly easy.
It was the first time I had soldered when I did it and I found it ok to do.
The n52te comes apart easily and the d-pad and buttons are connected by a ribbon cable (which you can either just cut, or wire up to something like footpedals)
When I did it all the membrane switches were replaced with cherries, but if you don't do that it will just be a case of taking the d-pad out and putting a stick in with teensy.
I was going to add a link to the other tutorial by W11ce but I noticed that you had seen it .... that one is too complicated for me lol
The n52te has a d-pad ... so no analog.does the n52te have an analog stick? Or do you need to mod itAnyone who can comment on that? About to pick one up
Years ago a few forum members modded it and put a stick in, there was a tutorial from roads about taking the left stick out of the xbox controller and putting it into the n52te. Nowadays an analog stick connected to teensy would be used instead. It's fairly straightforward to take the d-pad out of the n52te.
Edit: forgot to say that it's a modded N52te in the picture next to my name ... the little round coloured button switches are the d-pad wires connected up after taking the d-pad out to put the xbox stick in.
Sorry pics are lost get an Azeron.
Hey, the pics dont work anymore. I‘ve freshly aquired a n52te and been looking forward to mod an analog stick to it.
Can you update the image links?
Oh, I had to edit the files and it took some time to get the new 3d printed parts. So when I got those, ended up not writing a continuation. I will post the 3d model files at one point when I find all.
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I think the ergonomics / grip together with button layout is going to a tough challenge to get right. I put an extra button on a NAV, so using pinky and ring finger to grip, leaving middle finger for extra button(s), forefinger for trigger/jump buttons and thumb for analogue stick. Problem I found with this on the current NAV is the trigger/jump buttons need to be smaller (and trigger to not have such a large deadzone/travel time) for it to be comfortable and viable - hand size likely plays a role in this too.For trigger deadzone, I opened up my nav and added a small folded up piece of paper behind the trigger to reduce the deadzone. It worked very well, but eventually I just got so tired of holding that controller and wanted more buttons.
You listed the biggest issue with my design plan - hand size. It is impossible to produce something that works for everyone in terms of hand size. I happen to be freakishly tall, and with that, have freakishly large hands. Like can palm basketballs out of a dribble with ease large hands. I want a controller that is comfortable for myself, but also for other people, which is a challenge.
Hi i was wondering how the teensy board worked out, and if you are going to post the files for it?