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https://discord.gg/SAFUyDf

Its a new server as our old one recently got a bug that discord was aware of that as affecting some servers.

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Game Support / Re: PUBG Retrain
« on: 04:42 PM - 01/29/20 »
Definitely needs to be looked at again.

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Found a way to make the Mayflower work with Xbox chat. Less cables and adapters and most of all no echo. What did I do?

Well....

1. Added a DSS2 ( or mixamp ) via optical from the Xbox.
2. Headphone out from DSS2 to PC line in.
3. Installed voicemeter banana and added the line in to one of the channels.
4. Mic into the ARC and configured into one of the channels in voicemeter banana.
5. Headphone to ARC obviously.
6. Xbox companion app to use for party chat ( mic from voicemeter banana as the input source ).
 Works great. Clean sound and clear chat. GAME audio from the Xbox into the PC, out from the ARC via VB.

Great thing about this I can can control game and chat volume independently from VB. Think I'm gonna stick with this method for now but I'm just happy that I can finally take advantage of the ARC.



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So the diagram on the top worked. Mic worked , worked on voice messages ( used this method to test mic and playback ). I would imagine party chat would be fine as this was one thing I wasn't able to test out as I got side tracked with responsibilities. Will do more testing but this method looks promising.

Is it working with your ADG1X headset and mic or did you still need a separate mic? Just want to clarify if the issue was from the Arc, the headphones, or both.

In other news, Z reviews just did an Arc MK2 review. He didn't really compare it to other setups, but went through the features thoroughly and he didn't have any complaints.

I spoke too soon. I have no idea how to get rid of this echo. It's so frustrating. Maybe my headset mic is too sensitive? I thought maybe my chat adapter game/ chat volumes were the culprit because I realized I had both at max volume,but after completely turning both volumes to it's lowest my party was still hearing echo. Maybe a bad chat adapter? Well I wouldn't say it is because even the mic direct to the controller was the same thing. Tried two other controllers with the same result. I have no idea.

I ended just getting a wireless headset just so I don't have to deal with this mess.

I'm thinking I'm gonna sell the ARC and just stick with the Mixamp.

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Don't think I can even do that. The MK1 does not have a line in.
This just keeps getting better, you're right. I just assumed the mic out was an input like it is on the MK2.

While "fact-checking" you on the inputs, I went through the MK2 manual and noticed the Xbox setup figure matches the newer diagram I made, but had the mic splitter included (as I said to do in my follow-up reply). I don't recall seeing this before and I also don't remember the instructions telling you to change Xbox settings to pass chat through speakers, I think Mayflower just updated the manual.

Also, notice you are now instructed not to feed the mic into ARC at all, but instead need to bypass it. This tells me there must be a shared ground within the unit causing problems.


If that's the setup you tried with your ADG1X you shouldn't have had a dead mic. The mic should have worked, but I have a feeling you still would have had an echo or static caused by the mic sharing the same ground in the headset.

In the end, if you still can't find a workaround, I think you need to buy up the business modmic again and do this instead.


So the diagram on the top worked. Mic worked , worked on voice messages ( used this method to test mic and playback ). I would imagine party chat would be fine as this was one thing I wasn't able to test out as I got side tracked with responsibilities. Will do more testing but this method looks promising.

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That one at the end looks like the simplest way to make it work for XB1.

I suggest change the ATH-ADG1X for a ATH-AD900X both use the same drivers(speakears/cans) slightly tuned differently makes no sense have an unused mic or paying extra for it if you are not using it.

Definitely gonna try the one on the diagram with the mic plugged into the splitter going into the controller. It's definitely a ground for sure as the one breakthrough I thought I found had some really loud feedback when I increase the volume on the Mixamp. It also was picking every audio that was being output. This is getting super annoying. If this last one you suggested doesn't work I'm gonna sell the MK1 and get the MK2 and do this all over again.

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I'm surprized the other mic wouldn't work, hope you figure it out.

If you still can't get it to work, just use the mixamp as a DAC and use the Arc as an amp. That seems to be the cleanest setup for Xbox, although it would be a step down from running optical to the Arc.

Don't think I can even do that. The MK1 does not have a line in.

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I returned the modmic business I had , because of the same issue you're having. I did the setup you suggested above. The Xbox recognized that something was plugged in but the mic wouldn't work. So that's shot dead.

I did however found a breakthrough for the Mayflower ARC Mk1 to get chat audio to work. No echo, no ground feedback. Just clean audio. Only downfall was I wasn't able to adjustchat volume and it was tied together with game audio. I think I may have found a solution though. I will test tonight and give some feedback tomorrow.

What I did.....
-added a Astro Mixamp Pro TR
 * Mixamp connected to console via USB only ( No optical )

Optical still from console to ARC and headphone to ARC.

Mic connected  to Mixamp headset port.
Chat audio output set to speakers so I can hear chat coming out from the ARC and not on the Mixamp.

What I'm going to try tonight is adding an optical splitter ( 1 in 2 out ).
Console optical being split to the ARC and Mixamp. This should in theory enable me to control chat volume from the Mixamp. It could possibly have echo on my end doing
this but if I move the Mixamp game / chat audio dial a 100% towards to chat it may eliminate the possible echo caused by the optical splitter.

If this works , then it'll be awesome because nothing is connected to the controller. Crossing my fingers.

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I will give this a shot tonight. I'll give you some feedback tomorrow. I don't have a modic but I do have a zalman clip on. I'll try with that also.

What is that on the bottom of the splitter?

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Before changing your setup which appears to work with the PS4, I think you need to test your headset wire and chat adapter. Try joining a chat and connecting your headset directly into your chat adapter and see if your friends are still getting an echo. You should turn on the party chat overlay or leave the chat window open so you can see when your mic is giving feedback.

Assuming you don't have any issues with your adapter or headphone wire, we can now try different setups.

This would be your current Mayflower setup if you are following the instructions Alan provided from the manual.


However, if you are sending party chat through the Toslink cable (blue) your setup would be a little different (remove green lines/adapters to the chat adapter). I'm pretty sure the green section is where Mayflower got their Xbox instructions wrong. If you did connect it in this manner, you are now feeding an amplified signal directly in-line with the unamplified sound output from your chat adapter. I believe this would lead to lots of feedback and quiet party chat. If you remove this entirely and change your chat output to optical, your sound should be perfect.

Now lets look at the mic connection. I believe the problem is your headset is a 4 pole and your splitter converts this to two 3 pole connections which share the same ground. This wouldn't be an issue with PS4 because all signals are sharing the same ground from the Mayflower. However on Xbox, when using the mic passthru you are still dealing with two separate power supplies:
1) Mic powered from controller adapter
2) Speakers powered from Mayflower.
You would think the mic input would change the ground, but I believe it simply just forwards everything back to your chat adapter. I may be completely wrong, but other complaints from Xbox users lead me to believe this is the problem.

This brings me to the addition of the Modmic. This is a sad compromise because now you'd be adding a second mic onto your headset so you no longer share ground between mic and speakers. I hope you find a way to avoid this, but I suspect this new arrangement is the only way to prevent ground issues and your mic from echoing.


It's also possible that the mic and speaker inputs inside the ARC share the same ground. If so the feedback would be caused by the internal grounding. If that's the case, adding a Modmic wont help, we would instead need to connect the mic directly to the controller (red dashed line).

I apologize for such a lengthy post and unfortunately I don't have the Arc so I can't test and give you a solution.

I am using optical for the ARC. If I understand this correctly...I can output chat through optical? I don't think I ever seen that option on the audio settings on the Xbox. Maybe you're referring to "output chat to speakers"?. I did try that setup on the diagram( the one with the splitters on both the ARC and chat adapter and I was getting echo. I however didn't see the part where you mentioned to eliminate the green lines on that diagram. I would imagine it is pretty much the same thing as just plugging in the Y splitter off the headset to [ 1 ] Headphone to ARC and [ 2 ] mic to controller input. Doing that still have my party echo on their end. This is so frustrating.

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@#$% it's complicated for XB1.

Worth mentioning on the Mayflower ARC MK1, you have to connect the USB to your console no matter is only working on optical out, USB connector provides the Arc a full complete ground circuit.

Tried this but was getting ridiculously loud feedback. Not sure if I was supposed to use the USB and power adapter at the same time.

I also tried the setup on the diagram, and I'm still getting echo. I'm watching a stream from my Xbox and it's definitely picking up the stream audio. I'm so confused and discouraged to use this set up. I just can't find the solution. I've tried different audio cables from 3 pole to 4 pole since I have so many and every cable I've used does the same thing. I've tried the diagram setup with out using the mic out from the ARC and same thing. I just don't get it anymore.

I've also tried just plugging in the Xbox headset adapter that plugs into the controller with just my headset connected and I get no echo or feedback off of that. So my adapter is definitely not the problem.


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Try to connect the Mic output from the back of the arc to the controller mic (using Y splitter adapter), using a male to male 35mm extension.

Once your headset is connect to the Arc (either directly on the headphone jack MK2 only or using a Y splitter) the Mic output in the back is grounded.

I should have noted. I have the MK1. Is this still possible?

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Anyone on Xbox can help me out? Everytime I'm on party chat, my chat group complains of echo and it's annoying them so much that it makes me not wanna squad up with them
 I'm at a lost because I have tried pretty much everything to get rid of this echo.

I use a Mixamp and Mayflower ARC, never at the same time though.
With the Mixamp , the echo comes and goes. With the Mayflower it's seems to not go away. How I have the Mayflower setup for the Xbox is optical out to Mayflower Optical in for the headset and the mic into the controller input. Chat output set to speakers on the Xbox because that would be the only way to hear chat.

Any suggestions would  greatly be appreciated.

Can't help you with the mixamp, but it sounds like a bad cable.

For the Mayflower are you using a 4 pole headset which shares the mic and headset on the same plug? If so, I believe your issue could be the grounding issue that Alan just advised me to watch out for on my new setup. If that's the case, I think the best option is to add a modmic to have a separate mic cable. This should also solve your mixamp issue if it has a separate plug for mic.

Yeah I have a headset with a 4 pole. I do use a splitter however with it. I use that splitter to separate the mic and headset. Mic goes into controller and headset to ARC. So this is not the right way to do it?

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Anyone on Xbox can help me out? Everytime I'm on party chat, my chat group complains of echo and it's annoying them so much that it makes me not wanna squad up with them
 I'm at a lost because I have tried pretty much everything to get rid of this echo.

I use a Mixamp and Mayflower ARC, never at the same time though.
With the Mixamp , the echo comes and goes. With the Mayflower it's seems to not go away. How I have the Mayflower setup for the Xbox is optical out to Mayflower Optical in for the headset and the mic into the controller input. Chat output set to speakers on the Xbox because that would be the only way to hear chat.

Any suggestions would  greatly be appreciated.

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As antithesis said, turn assist holds the last vector ( mouse direction ) .

I use an aux setting for this as if used just as a key in Hip or ADS  it is quite uncontrollable due to the sens settings.

Do NOT set a key for turn assist in Hip or ADS
Set up an Aux which is activated by the key you wish to use for Turn assist.
Set the key in the Aux to use the same key for Turn assist and make sure it is not set to toggle
In the Aux set your sens really low to have the best control over your turn assist, As an example, my sens generally is around 30 for Hip, I use 5 for this Aux.

If your sens for hip is already really low because maybe you use default sync and 10000 dpi then you just need to make it even lower

hope that makes sense , if not I can do some images of how I set mine up for specifically Battlefield 1

Please do!

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