Great thread, I’m not gaming anymore at least for awhile. However, I’ve been down this road several times in the past. So I’m going to offer you all my personal experience with these settings. You can do what you want with it. But here’s my advice.
The 1st thing that I want to make perfectly clear is that I can tell right away that I don’t share the same play style as Gamingnerd. How do I know this? I know this this based on his settings and my own personal experience with Testing Apex for several YEARS!
Now that that’s out there, I want to be clear about something else. Im not here to encourage or discourage anyone from using or not using this setup. At the end of the day, it’s the old cliche’ “use what works for you”. I’m only here to offer my opinion and experience with Apex in regards to this topic.
Jesus.. I feel like I’ve come out of retirement for this post lol. (Not far from the truth, tbh).
1st - A few have made comments about what settings are most like Xim4. OBsIV has told us in the past that Apex running at 125hz and Default Sync was identical to Xim4. He then told us that 125hz with Off or Default Sync was the equivalent of Xim4. Then he stated Sync Off running at 125hz is the same as Xim4.
My personal experience is that Apex running at 125hz. With Sync Off is indeed the closest thing I’ve used to get the Xim4 experience. Is it identical? While according to OBs it “should be”. But as a lot of you are aware. It’s often difficult and very time consuming to test things when we’re playing games on the internet. So there’s that.
2nd - I think most know my take on Aim Assist. Aim Assist is the reason I say Gamingnerd and myself don’t share the same setup standards. There’s a few comments that I think are misleading imo. One was that 250hz had more Aim Assist then 125hz. This Imo is a false statement. My personal experience is this.
- 125hz, Low Sync (30 fps) and 800 DPI is about the MOST Aim Assist you can get without a curve. By most I mean by taking advantage of what the game offers you. You can’t get more then what’s built into the look mech.
On the flip side
- 1000hz. Sync Off and 16,000 dpi (or as high as your mouse will go) is about the LEAST Aim Assist you can get without a curve (assuming AA is ON).
Those are the highs and lows of Aim Assist. I say we’re different because I don’t like the way Aim Assist feels at lower hz settings, whereas Gaming nerd and some of you do. There’s nothing wrong with it, it just is what it is, personal preference. My biggest complaint with every Xim over the years was Aim Assist feeling to strong at times. Apex gives you the most versatility to deal with it as you like. That’s why I’ll always praise Apex as superior.
But other then Aim Assist, there is definitely nothing wrong with the Xim4 experience. I can definitely see why many would like this setup. I personally believe Apex is extremely consistent no matter what hz or Sync you’re using with everything accept micro movements. Higher hz and Sync values will effect micro movements. So it comes down what you treasure more. Micro movements or AA cut through? Without curves all of the settings are very consistent with normal swipes while maneuvering around. You do need to match sensitivity though when changing Sync and polling rates. This can be tricky and there is a base line out there for doing this. But it’s not perfect math, very close though.
There are many post about sensitivity settings and idkwtf touched on a piece of it a few post back.
goes like this.
Syncs:
Off > Default (divide sens by 8
Off > Common (divide sens by 16)
Off > Low (divide sens by 32)
Hz:
1000 > 500 (divide sens by 2)
1000 > 250 (divide sens by 4)
1000 > 125 (divide sens by 8
I have always preferred Sync Off over other Sync values. It is the closest to raw input I could personally get. I have a feeling most of you will probably slowly migrate up the hz scale as higher hz does make movements more responsive. However with that comes jitter, so it’s about finding your balance between responsiveness, Aim Assist, Jitter and Micro movements. All this on top of the games net code and your awesome internet connection, Lol.. sounds a bit daunting doesn’t it?
No worries though, follow the guide above. Find what Hz and Sync best fit your style and then, if needed, fine tune your setup with Mouse polling rate and DPI. I would recommend matching your mouse polling with Xim, but this is really nit picking things now. The biggest concern is to make sure your mouse is never polling slower then Xim or you will get stutter, not Jitter, Stutter! But matching polling rates does seem to offer a bit of consistency that you will only notice in micro movements and if measuring your mouse pad in CMs.
Great thread,
Cheers!
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