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Game Support / Re: Good Overwatch settings?
« on: 03:24 AM - 03/12/20 »
Ok thanks I also just found out that 3000 dpi is better for cloth mousepads I guess 16000 was overkill no wonder it was jittery
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Does anyone else use linear and feel like something is messed up with the aim in the new patch?I find linear to be a lot better than expo. I will do more testing tomorrow but as of now I'm still doing better on linear after my switch to exponential ramp and losing my muscle memory.
I've got to defend that guy on this one when I was still a Genji main and played with XIM for the first time I knew its going to be harder. Since then I haven't played Genji and main Widowmaker/Soldier. It just way easier to play Genji with a Controller on Console. Everything he said is also true, you know about your Settings not being optimal.Pointing out terrible stats isn't trash talk. I've never said you suck, I've only said your config is not optimal and shouldn't be recommended to people. Unless they know what they're doing.Your version of "Optimal" is using Aim Assist & M+KB and FAILING to = Controller w/ AA. You think that's "Optimal" being enferior to Controller while using Aim Assist?
Your "Skill Level" =/= Controller. Is your Auto Aim turned OFF?And again, I'm not insulting you, I'm simply saying the math doesn't add up. I'm saying the config is the reason you're in gold, not your skill.And Im telling you that none of the above is the Reason. I alrdy explained 3 pages ago like I explained very clearly everything else. You cannot 1v6. Simple as that. The game is 6v6 and Hero swaps countering Tactics = Wins not maxed out Auto Aim. Frankda reached 5000 SR via 2v1~3v1 engagements not RAW talent w/ a CONTROLLER based on AA skill.
You can play the Game w/o Aim Assist. If you want to insist Aim Assist is a MUST then you are FAILING to = CONTROLLER players' SR using such M+KB & AA combo.
How does "Optimal" = Inferior SR to Controller SR?
When some random Controller player on my FL whom mains Genji is 4000+ SR every single Season using Controller. While yall using XIM4 + Aim Assist cannot = such Accomplishment. Then obviously the game is based on more than just AA itself. Your version of "Optimal" is incredibly ignorant of reality just like the Debate on Accuracy % itself.
The Math does in Fact add up. What you claim as Fact = total BS.
You Failed in your own SR to = CONTROLLER while using M+KB and AIM ASSIST.
Your own SR debunked your very own claims...
I meant its considered as cheating by most and they won't change their opinion if you tell them "I'm not using Aim Assist".That's perfectly fine. Everyone has the option to use AA or not. That was never the debate to begin w/. Claiming the Controls do not work w/o AA or that such is necessary for M/GM status is just an excuse to use AA. When the game is very much playable w/o and when 99.99% of everyone playing the game is using such then obviously the odds of M/GM existing whom do not use AA are rather slim to begin w/.The vids I linked speak for themselves. Playing using Aim Assist makes it impossible to differentiate Controller from XIM4 Gameplay. The highest SR players (such as Frankda 5000 SR) using Controllers are all capable of doing anything & everything that XIM4 players are doing which is due to Aim Assist diminishing the capabilities of XIM4 to the same level standard as Aim Assist using Controller. Is it easier playing the game w/ Aim Assist? Of course it is which is WHY they (Blizzard) were forced to Delete Aim Assist from PC cuz even w/ the best possible controls imaginable Aim Assist is still easier than doing all the Aiming on your own. Requiring far less actual Mouse control which is what we are seeing on Console. PC players were using XIM4 on PC just for Aim Assist. Problem was solved. Now we know Why there is no Aim Assist on PC.Wait won't using mkb with a XIM4 limit you on PC just as much as on Console? I rather not have any Aim Assist, be extremely precise and spin with incredible speed. 100/100 is just too slow on Overwatch and Destiny wasn't know to be a fast game either.
Aim Assist on PC The Know vid - tyvm for the heads up.
https://youtu.be/sS2zX9Qnir4
But on Console its a different story as the video pointed out playing with a XIM4 on Console is cheating regardless if you are using Aim Assist or not, so why not use it lol.
I mean you bought this device for +130$ and Mouse & Keyboard if you didn't have them already to play better than everyone with a Controller. Ehhh so whats the point of turning Aim Assist completely off to have a harder time after spending so much money.
Also not everyone bought XIM4 for the reasons you suggested. Just the ability to play the game being in full control w/o using gimmics such as AA is another valid reason. Plus XIM4 is not "cheating" to begin w/. If it was Sony would not be selling the TAC Pro which allows M+KB control for OW just like XIM4 does. PS4 is even a Naitive M+KB system so obviously Sony wants M+KB gameplay to exist on PS4. Labeling such as "cheating" is irrational. Which perfectly sums up Jeff Kaplan's response to M+KB.Man thats just overkill sorry to say it but you are the equivalent of a PC player claiming to have found his perfect Sensitivity with 12000 DPI & 5 Sensitivity while every Pro plays at around 800 & 6 or something similar. Its just too jittery, sure you can aim with your wrist but every Pro will tell you to aim with your whole arm.What makes you think everyone uses the same Settings on PC?
https://youtu.be/_wD3dAxP8dA
Not everybody Copy/Paste someone else's controls.
The vids I linked speak for themselves. Playing using Aim Assist makes it impossible to differentiate Controller from XIM4 Gameplay. The highest SR players (such as Frankda 5000 SR) using Controllers are all capable of doing anything & everything that XIM4 players are doing which is due to Aim Assist diminishing the capabilities of XIM4 to the same level standard as Aim Assist using Controller. Is it easier playing the game w/ Aim Assist? Of course it is which is WHY they (Blizzard) were forced to Delete Aim Assist from PC cuz even w/ the best possible controls imaginable Aim Assist is still easier than doing all the Aiming on your own. Requiring far less actual Mouse control which is what we are seeing on Console. PC players were using XIM4 on PC just for Aim Assist. Problem was solved. Now we know Why there is no Aim Assist on PC.Wait won't using mkb with a XIM4 limit you on PC just as much as on Console? I rather not have any Aim Assist, be extremely precise and spin with incredible speed. 100/100 is just too slow on Overwatch and Destiny wasn't know to be a fast game either.
Aim Assist on PC The Know vid - tyvm for the heads up.
https://youtu.be/sS2zX9Qnir4
Man thats just overkill sorry to say it but you are the equivalent of a PC player claiming to have found his perfect Sensitivity with 12000 DPI & 5 Sensitivity while every Pro plays at around 800 & 6 or something similar. Its just too jittery, sure you can aim with your wrist but every Pro will tell you to aim with your whole arm.Too be honest if you are such an advocate of no aim assist xim i would recoment to you above anybody else do whatever you can to get a pc and play on that console overwatch aim mechanics are @#$% they keep adding new things proving how clueless they are an how poor their origional controll system is if you play no aim assist on exponential ramp you have no chance there will be nothing to compensate for the random acceleration jumps and it can be played on linear as big ol bully has proved but it doesn seem to offer a great performance and it mainly seems to be ok with high precision charachters on a really low sensitivity meaning your hanzo mcree widow players could get some use out of it but turning aim assist off in a game where everyone has it just seems like a stupid idea imo. This is my opinion i believe big ol bully is a big advocate of no aim assist but the settings with such a low sense they are playable on console with no aim assist would make flanker charachters impossible to play well and would hinder any charachter that needs some level of turning greatly. Finally aim assist was turned off on console as people were usimg xim4 to CHEAT having a emulation of mouse and keyboard with aim assist in a game that has no base aim assist would be incredibily unfair agains all of the lower end players on pc these players would still get wrecked by the better pc players high master and above but it was a cheasy way to beat the lower skilled players. On console any idiot can hit lucky shots on you even if they are terrible with controller aim as they will just spray in your generall direction whilst this is going on why would you turn aim assist off yourself. I mainly play genji and iv found that tbh i have not improved with xim4 on genji really on most of the other charachters yes as it is just a better way to aim hands down but on genji the limitations mean you can be more accurate than a controller genji but they will always have faster turning, i stuck with xim as i wanted to get better with mouse and keyboard as i was thinking of moving to pc but i honestly dont think its worth it for genji players atm if the turn speed cap is increased this would be very different but as is if i was going for pure performance and only played genji i would not recommend getting xim its not worth itOverwatch look mechanic is no where near as bad as ppl claim such to be. The issue w/ the controls stems from being Analog vs DPI acceleration. You can still play the game w/o Aim Assist using M+KB vs Controller. It's alot easier using M+KB. Controller makes perfect sense having Aim Assist. Other than inherent issue w/ Analog the only thing PC M+KB has is Insta-Turn.
I did not buy XIM4 only to make believe I was actually Aiming by having the CPU giving me a magnetic attractive force to the opposition. That in itself defeats the whole point of using M+KB. You use XIM4 to do it yourself unlike Controller. Which is Why we have the issue of unable to differentiate gameplay footage of XIM4 compared to Controller. They look identical when Aim Assist is doing all the work.
- Yes XIM4 works w/o Aim Assist
- Yes Aim Assist requires less Mouse control
- Yes Aim Assist is easier
The problem is that it feels like console rather than PC using such. Which is not very fun having the CPU diminishing the fact that you are using actual M+KB in the 1st place.Actually it's more around 1440 degrees w/o lifting the Mouse.Lol what a 720°? When I use lets say a 20 Sensitivity and 12k DPI which is overkill I can barely do a 360° so whats your trick, the Turn Assist?You can do 720+ degrees w/o lifting your mouse and still have precision aim. You are definitely not being forced to play this game using Aim Assist. I mean I understand absolutely everyone is using Aim Assist. Im just saying XIM4 works & the game is playable w/o such.To me there is no point in turning it off completely just play around it and use it for micro movements. If I turn it off I would have to lower my sensitivity -> smaller turn radius only to keep my precision which I only need on enemies anyway.I dont mean any disrespect to anyone but it seriously just bugs the living @#$% out of me reading such.QuoteSo yes. Aim assist is a necessary component for using xim4.
Xim4 is supposed to be the best 1:1 PC-like product on the market, and we are repeatedly told how the ST makes everything Linear... Aim Assist is not supposed to be necessary if we have all this linear 1:1 precision. But do we? Sounds like people can't hit a barn unless the game stops their aim on target.
Yes, you can set up your XIM4 to play Overwatch w/ Aim Assist:OFF. Have been playing that way since Blizzard allowed to turn such off. The part that drives me crazy is knowing that this supposed "Unfair Advantage" that using M+KB gives everyone is actually diminished and negated by Aim Assist itself. How can you precisely turn and Aim w/ the CPU trying to take over by slowing down your Aim making controls literally Unresponsive. Using Aim Assist gives you the same level of controls that Controller gives you since the CPU is giving you that same magnetic attractive force towards the opposition.
I cannot tell you how much better this game feels w/o using Aim Assist. Aim Assist is absolute garbage IMO. No way in hell would I ever advise anyone to use such. Just set up your controls so that they work as intended and learn to go w/o. You are much better off in the end doing such.
No Aim Assist is not necessary. Which is Why I even bother posting vids here. Just to prove it. No other reason. http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=32092.1395http://www.youtube.com/v/lVYCqu5Hdd4&hd=1"No sh!+" Aim Assist is Dead Weight IMO the game is alot more like PC than most even know. Aim Assist kills all the fun of using M+KB.
Link: https://youtu.be/lVYCqu5Hdd4
Linear Ramp + Aim Ease
Aim Assist:OFF
http://www.youtube.com/v/E3pluQ0u7ZU&hd=1
Link: https://youtu.be/E3pluQ0u7ZU
Expo Ramp w/o Aim Ease
Aim Assist:OFF
Too many Setting changes.....
How does control feel w/o Aim Assist
https://youtu.be/MJLOCAWkRoc
Well. Different ofc & should be 0% for everyone IMO
...but w/e no mo vids.
https://youtu.be/HNHjC5Vtvzc
This is not PC, you have to find the perfect balance between turning speed and accuracy since having both is hard without perfect settings.
ANYWAYS... USE such Aim Assist as you please. Do as you please. None of my business nor concern but claiming OW as "unplayable" using M+KB w/o Aim Assist is Incorrect. XIM4 works w/o Aim Assist.I see but the Sensitivity you are using is way to high. I wouldn't be able to play Widowmaker and McCree anymore so no thanks.
Lol what a 720°? When I use lets say a 20 Sensitivity and 12k DPI which is overkill I can barely do a 360° so whats your trick, the Turn Assist?You can do 720+ degrees w/o lifting your mouse and still have precision aim. You are definitely not being forced to play this game using Aim Assist. I mean I understand absolutely everyone is using Aim Assist. Im just saying XIM4 works & the game is playable w/o such.To me there is no point in turning it off completely just play around it and use it for micro movements. If I turn it off I would have to lower my sensitivity -> smaller turn radius only to keep my precision which I only need on enemies anyway.I dont mean any disrespect to anyone but it seriously just bugs the living @#$% out of me reading such.QuoteSo yes. Aim assist is a necessary component for using xim4.
Xim4 is supposed to be the best 1:1 PC-like product on the market, and we are repeatedly told how the ST makes everything Linear... Aim Assist is not supposed to be necessary if we have all this linear 1:1 precision. But do we? Sounds like people can't hit a barn unless the game stops their aim on target.
Yes, you can set up your XIM4 to play Overwatch w/ Aim Assist:OFF. Have been playing that way since Blizzard allowed to turn such off. The part that drives me crazy is knowing that this supposed "Unfair Advantage" that using M+KB gives everyone is actually diminished and negated by Aim Assist itself. How can you precisely turn and Aim w/ the CPU trying to take over by slowing down your Aim making controls literally Unresponsive. Using Aim Assist gives you the same level of controls that Controller gives you since the CPU is giving you that same magnetic attractive force towards the opposition.
I cannot tell you how much better this game feels w/o using Aim Assist. Aim Assist is absolute garbage IMO. No way in hell would I ever advise anyone to use such. Just set up your controls so that they work as intended and learn to go w/o. You are much better off in the end doing such.
No Aim Assist is not necessary. Which is Why I even bother posting vids here. Just to prove it. No other reason. http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=32092.1395http://www.youtube.com/v/lVYCqu5Hdd4&hd=1"No sh!+" Aim Assist is Dead Weight IMO the game is alot more like PC than most even know. Aim Assist kills all the fun of using M+KB.
Link: https://youtu.be/lVYCqu5Hdd4
Linear Ramp + Aim Ease
Aim Assist:OFF
http://www.youtube.com/v/E3pluQ0u7ZU&hd=1
Link: https://youtu.be/E3pluQ0u7ZU
Expo Ramp w/o Aim Ease
Aim Assist:OFF
Too many Setting changes.....
How does control feel w/o Aim Assist
https://youtu.be/MJLOCAWkRoc
Well. Different ofc & should be 0% for everyone IMO
...but w/e no mo vids.
https://youtu.be/HNHjC5Vtvzc
This is not PC, you have to find the perfect balance between turning speed and accuracy since having both is hard without perfect settings.
To me there is no point in turning it off completely just play around it and use it for micro movements. If I turn it off I would have to lower my sensitivity -> smaller turn radius only to keep my precision which I only need on enemies anyway.I dont mean any disrespect to anyone but it seriously just bugs the living @#$% out of me reading such.QuoteSo yes. Aim assist is a necessary component for using xim4.
Xim4 is supposed to be the best 1:1 PC-like product on the market, and we are repeatedly told how the ST makes everything Linear... Aim Assist is not supposed to be necessary if we have all this linear 1:1 precision. But do we? Sounds like people can't hit a barn unless the game stops their aim on target.
Yes, you can set up your XIM4 to play Overwatch w/ Aim Assist:OFF. Have been playing that way since Blizzard allowed to turn such off. The part that drives me crazy is knowing that this supposed "Unfair Advantage" that using M+KB gives everyone is actually diminished and negated by Aim Assist itself. How can you precisely turn and Aim w/ the CPU trying to take over by slowing down your Aim making controls literally Unresponsive. Using Aim Assist gives you the same level of controls that Controller gives you since the CPU is giving you that same magnetic attractive force towards the opposition.
I cannot tell you how much better this game feels w/o using Aim Assist. Aim Assist is absolute garbage IMO. No way in hell would I ever advise anyone to use such. Just set up your controls so that they work as intended and learn to go w/o. You are much better off in the end doing such.
No Aim Assist is not necessary. Which is Why I even bother posting vids here. Just to prove it. No other reason. http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=32092.1395http://www.youtube.com/v/lVYCqu5Hdd4&hd=1"No sh!+" Aim Assist is Dead Weight IMO the game is alot more like PC than most even know. Aim Assist kills all the fun of using M+KB.
Link: https://youtu.be/lVYCqu5Hdd4
Linear Ramp + Aim Ease
Aim Assist:OFF
http://www.youtube.com/v/E3pluQ0u7ZU&hd=1
Link: https://youtu.be/E3pluQ0u7ZU
Expo Ramp w/o Aim Ease
Aim Assist:OFF
Too many Setting changes.....
How does control feel w/o Aim Assist
https://youtu.be/MJLOCAWkRoc
Well. Different ofc & should be 0% for everyone IMO
...but w/e no mo vids.
https://youtu.be/HNHjC5Vtvzc