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Title: So why this over XIM Apex?
Post by: OhBlivEeUn on 10:11 PM - 11/15/21
I got used to XIM and use it almost exclusively for shooting games, but this controller looks professional. Could I use it on the Switch?

What makes this so special versus a SCUF or Elite Controller as an Xbox player? Not trying to be rude but just trying to learn more.
Title: Re: So why this over XIM Apex?
Post by: Heresy on 03:32 PM - 11/16/21
The ability to tilt the controller to make small adjustments to your aim.

I've used the XIM 360 and XIM 4 as I prefer mouse and keyboard, but it's a pain in the arse to set up if you just want to loaf on the couch and play.

I was thinking the other month how annoying it is that the you can't tilt the xbox controller to correct your aim (as I have potato aim on a controller). I then ended up checking the xim forums a few weeks later to find they're going to remove the barrier I have to console FPS, and now I'm checking every day waiting for news of a release date :)

I don't know about using this on the Switch though.
Title: Re: So why this over XIM Apex?
Post by: antithesis on 04:37 PM - 11/16/21
Switch is not supported, but might be in the future.

I too am a complete potato with a controller, but I look like I can use one with a NEXUS, due entirely to the motion aim.

That improvement trickles down to general stickplay too as I'm much better than I was a few months ago.
Title: Re: So why this over XIM Apex?
Post by: OhBlivEeUn on 06:24 PM - 11/16/21
Conceptually it sounds good so good luck with the release XIM team, I will keep an eye on it as I too have potato aim after years of not using controller.

I'd be concerned about the titling being a detriment but I am probably wrong.
Title: Re: So why this over XIM Apex?
Post by: Tats on 09:18 PM - 11/16/21
Switch is not supported, but might be in the future.

I too am a complete potato with a controller, but I look like I can use one with a NEXUS, due entirely to the motion aim.

That improvement trickles down to general stickplay too as I'm much better than I was a few months ago.

So with you entirely using motion aim, do you have your motion sense tuned for a 360 or do you micro adjust? Do you use the right Thumbstick primarily or only to center?
Title: Re: So why this over XIM Apex?
Post by: OBsIV on 09:33 PM - 11/16/21
I'm pretty sure that antithesis games with NEXUS like I do -- stick coarse and motion fine.
Title: Re: So why this over XIM Apex?
Post by: Tats on 09:43 PM - 11/16/21
Noted ,

sheesh Iím so excited to see people what the community will achieve with NEXUS.
Title: Re: So why this over XIM Apex?
Post by: lmulli on 03:24 AM - 11/17/21
I dislike controllers for shooters, hence why I use the Apex.

Personally, I believe they'd have been better developing a newer version of Apex along with a navigation controller to pair with it, or doing something like Tuact did with their Venom by offering the mouse/controller and device all in one package.
Title: Re: So why this over XIM Apex?
Post by: antithesis on 04:29 AM - 11/17/21
I'd be concerned about the titling being a detriment but I am probably wrong.
I was sceptical too, but tilting is actually really intuitive and works alongside stick movement. So you can turn with the sticks and tilt the controller at the same time. The learning curve is really shallow, it's not hard to pick up at all.

So with you entirely using motion aim, do you have your motion sense tuned for a 360 or do you micro adjust? Do you use the right Thumbstick primarily or only to center?
For HIP, most aim is as OBsIV said - coarse movement with the sticks, fine movement using motion aim.

For ADS, it's mostly motion aim within around a 90 degree vector. If I need to flick, I'll hit the stick. Most right-stick input is to control recoil.

Others will play differently, pretty much everything is customisable.

I dislike controllers for shooters, hence why I use the Apex.
I am incompetent using a regular controller for shooters, but competent with a NEXUS. It's night and day thanks to motion aim.

I still prefer APEX for online MP based on 40 odd years of m/kb gaming. But my controller gameplay has improved exponentially this year due to NEXUS.
Title: Re: So why this over XIM Apex?
Post by: middo on 06:06 AM - 11/17/21
Have to agree , is annoying setting xim apex up just for a quick game, but have no choice I shoot like I'm Johnny 5 from short circuit. Proper robotic !! Looking forward to this nexus.
Title: Re: So why this over XIM Apex?
Post by: TurboMan on 08:36 AM - 11/17/21

So with you entirely using motion aim, do you have your motion sense tuned for a 360 or do you micro adjust? Do you use the right Thumbstick primarily or only to center?

I'd imagine stick for general moving around the map, turning, centering etc. then motion for actual aiming. Similar to how I use my arm to turn and centre with a mouse, then when I spot an enemy I flick my arm toward them to get the crosshair close then do the rest of my aiming with my wrist pretty much. I guess the arm movements for larger turns would be replaced with the stick and the more accurate wrist aiming scenarios would be done with the motion aim.
Title: Re: So why this over XIM Apex?
Post by: AgentSmith on 10:30 AM - 12/14/21
To see how intuitive motion aim is, do this little test.

Give your controller to a child below maybe 4 or 5 years of age who has no previous experience.
Put them in front of the TV and watch how they try to aim, they will point the controller at the enemy.
 They need to be told to move the sticks.
Title: Re: So why this over XIM Apex?
Post by: antithesis on 05:26 PM - 12/14/21
Exactly. I have 4 kids and every single one of them tilted the controller to move their in-game character. They had to be taught to hold the controller still in their lap and use the sticks for movement and aim.
Title: Re: So why this over XIM Apex?
Post by: PingThing on 02:30 PM - 12/18/21
For those of us that still console game from a couch on the main TV, the Nexus is going to be a huge improvement in convenience over the Apex, which for me at least is now mainly attached to my PC.
I simply cannot be arsed to unplug everything and then replug it all at another device. Can't wait to have a device where I can just jump in front of the TV and be ximming within minutes on console without wires strewn across the floor.
Title: Re: So why this over XIM Apex?
Post by: antithesis on 02:57 PM - 12/18/21
Convenience and couch play is why Iíll keep using mine :)
Title: Re: So why this over XIM Apex?
Post by: ultimateisready on 07:16 AM - 01/06/22
I want use this cuz i switched to pc. the game i play its a crossplay game.

when i use now xim on a pc it feels not right.

also i became way too good and some people are sensitive of fast flicks and stuff. but its more for me personally cuz i not feel legit when i play like small tourneys or 1vs1 for little prize pools. esp on pc u can tweek like some recommended settings to have faster turn and stuff and recently im just godlike vs controller players atleast.

it would be also be new challange again getting used to controller and pop off. i already started training with gyro last weeks with ps4 controller its quite difficult but it looks even superior than apex for sure - if u can master it.