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Title: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: xasert on 03:38 AM - 08/11/20
is the xim apex  officially supported by the ps5 or Xbox Series X ?   some1 wrote that 1  if not both consoles will go natively with mouse and keyb for all games ? anyway if not , the xim apex will be ok to go on ps5  &xbox x or not ? dont  u know anything bout ?  i mean in 2 - 3 months they will arrive    ciao a tutti
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Od1n on 06:24 AM - 08/11/20
Hey,

for a concrete statement the consoles have to be tested first, until then only assumptions based on leaks/information can be made.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: OBsIV on 11:27 AM - 08/11/20
Welcome to the community. As Od1n states, we will need the consoles to know for sure. Concerning native mouse and keyboard support, games can choose if they want to use that support. To date, few have. If a game does support native, XIM will be available to allow you game in the same lobbies as your controller friends and also use a wider variety of input devices.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: xasert on 07:12 AM - 08/13/20
Thank u for the reply
when do u think will we know something bout?
ciao a tutti
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: OBsIV on 10:10 AM - 08/13/20
We won't know for certain until after the consoles have launched.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Phil Ashio on 12:19 PM - 08/13/20
Microsoft already announced November as the month. Considering that Destiny 2 Beyond Light has been pushed back to November 10 and they've sort of been cross marketing my guess is that's about when XSX comes out and PS5 isn't too far from that date.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: AgentSmith on 04:24 AM - 08/18/20
Just wanted to add..

Microsoft have said that all Xbox One accessories will work, So that is looking good so far.

https://www.windowscentral.com/will-xbox-elite-controller-series-2-work-xbox-project-scarlett#:~:text=Yep!-,Will%20the%20Xbox%20Elite%20Controller%20Series,on%20the%20Xbox%20Series%20X%3F&text=Best%20answer%3A%20Yes%2C%20Microsoft%20has,next%2Dgen%20Xbox%20Series%20X. (https://www.windowscentral.com/will-xbox-elite-controller-series-2-work-xbox-project-scarlett#:~:text=Yep!-,Will%20the%20Xbox%20Elite%20Controller%20Series,on%20the%20Xbox%20Series%20X%3F&text=Best%20answer%3A%20Yes%2C%20Microsoft%20has,next%2Dgen%20Xbox%20Series%20X.)
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: OBsIV on 10:55 AM - 08/18/20
Yes, things are looking good for Xbox. PS5 is still a big unknown.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: antithesis on 04:10 PM - 08/18/20
The difference between a PS5 game and a PS4 game may simply be support for haptic feedback on the DualSense controller.

Sony had to pay patent royalties for DS3 and DS4 rumble. IMHO, that's why PS5 games won't work with a DS4 and Sony is ditching a bad relationship rather than locking out third-party devices (I'd just jump to XBSX instead of PS5 if they did).

Hopefully a DualSense won't be an issue with XIM APEX, but we won't know until the consoles are released.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: AgentSmith on 01:52 AM - 08/19/20
Quote
Yes, things are looking good for Xbox. PS5 is still a big unknown.

I Guess but..    Xim   does mean XBOX input Machine   :-)
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: OBsIV on 10:06 AM - 08/19/20
I Guess but..    Xim   does mean XBOX input Machine   :-)

You've been around long enough to know that. :)
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: facade on 11:19 AM - 08/19/20
I'll be so disappointed if it doesn't work for PS5, but understand that's how it works.

I still remember buying my first XIM for Halo
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: OBsIV on 12:52 PM - 08/19/20
We will do all we can to support PS5.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: facade on 10:11 AM - 08/20/20
Oh of course. I have no doubt you will find a way considering you were able to make XIM Edge work w/PS4 when it was created for PS3.

Edit:
Just found this.. This should be interesting.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-08-20-deathloop-blocks-the-ps5-dualsense-controller-triggers-when-your-weapon-jams?fbclid=IwAR0CeQS4gt9Ncw7ZBx2MRp5avpWg3ZfrV8zeyLLUGaf4RoRfgG97W8QrMnU

Also according to Reddit they are also working on a feature where depending on how far you pull the trigger could be used as an "Alt Fire".  I guess that would have to be worked out as well or they need an option to disable it (or you are just stuck with always firing "alt fire")
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ItZ_Me_Not_You on 08:03 AM - 08/24/20
I dont know if this helps or not but

(https://i.ibb.co/wgpTrx4/118518450-825436848198879-5191975187830445114-n.jpg)
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: antithesis on 04:22 PM - 08/24/20
XIM APEX will identify itself as the genuine Sony or MS controller attached to it, so the Scuf Impact not working doesn't really apply (it'll flag itself as a DS4).

Best case scenario - we connect a DualSense to APEX and it's up and running, with a little jiggery-pokery in the APEX FW to pass through the controller identity correctly.

The worst case is it doesn't work at all due to protocol changes between the DualSense and PS5 console, but the DS4 working in limited capacity implies that's an unlikely outcome.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: xasert on 06:28 PM - 09/04/20
 news & updates ? official unofficial ? if u know something post it here
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Boudelair on 07:07 AM - 09/08/20
Hi guys, donít know if this the right spot to ask, but Any Plans for XIM5? Looking forward to it!
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: nickoliogotav_ on 12:18 PM - 09/08/20
Just wanted to add..

Microsoft have said that all Xbox One accessories will work, So that is looking good so far.

https://www.windowscentral.com/will-xbox-elite-controller-series-2-work-xbox-project-scarlett#:~:text=Yep!-,Will%20the%20Xbox%20Elite%20Controller%20Series,on%20the%20Xbox%20Series%20X%3F&text=Best%20answer%3A%20Yes%2C%20Microsoft%20has,next%2Dgen%20Xbox%20Series%20X. (https://www.windowscentral.com/will-xbox-elite-controller-series-2-work-xbox-project-scarlett#:~:text=Yep!-,Will%20the%20Xbox%20Elite%20Controller%20Series,on%20the%20Xbox%20Series%20X%3F&text=Best%20answer%3A%20Yes%2C%20Microsoft%20has,next%2Dgen%20Xbox%20Series%20X.)

Will this mean the XIM4 will continue to work? Assuming im using the XB1 controller still?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: facade on 12:21 PM - 09/08/20
He doesn't know until he gets the consoles.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ThisGuy on 11:43 PM - 09/21/20
Good news I guess for Xbox according to steelseries the Arctis 9x which uses the Xbox wireless protocol and identifies as a controller will need no firmware update at all it will just sink up as it does to the Xbox one/x. So one would assume the controller will read and Authenticate the exact same. So odds of series x/s working with xim without an update look pretty good.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: greeno85 on 05:23 AM - 09/22/20
@Obvs are you receiving a PS5 and XBox Series X at launch to test?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: overwitcher on 10:09 AM - 09/22/20
hey guys,

Could we expect better performance on the next Gen
or should I kill the hype?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: facade on 10:16 AM - 09/22/20
hey guys,

Could we expect better performance on the next Gen
or should I kill the hype?


Considering they don't know for certain if it will even work next gen yet I'd wait before getting super excited.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: OBsIV on 10:45 AM - 09/22/20
@Obvs are you receiving a PS5 and XBox Series X at launch to test?

Thanks to a generous forum member (sheryip) who offered us their preorders when we couldn't get any, we will have consoles at launch.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: etrigan on 11:33 AM - 09/22/20
The worst case is it doesn't work at all due to protocol changes between the DualSense and PS5 console, but the DS4 working in limited capacity implies that's an unlikely outcome.

I'm going to take a wild guess that the protocol won't change much. I mean it was technically possible to use a DS4 on a PS3 after an update, so they seem invested in the IP.

Nevermind all the games that have invested parties in the ds4 controller architecture. I'm wondering if some of the fighting game producers will support the older controllers in their next gen games.

Going to be tough to get a bunch of those people spending a ton on a new fight stick/fight pads. This isn't a huge segment of the population, but they are console buyers themselves.

There's also a handful of PC games that support DS3/DS4 out of the box, Rocket League comes to mind.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: antithesis on 03:13 PM - 09/22/20
PS5 games will require a DualSense controller. IMHO this is due to Sony ending a licensing agreement for rumble and replacing it with their own haptic tech. This would explain why only PS4 games on PS5 will work with a DS4.

Hopefully XIM APEX just needs to add DualSense compatibility, but it may be more complex than that.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: commandocookie1 on 07:37 PM - 09/22/20
I'll be more than happy to try the XIM with the series x I have XIM apex and secured a series x console. Excited to see how it goes.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Sorothos on 10:53 PM - 09/22/20
@Obvs are you receiving a PS5 and XBox Series X at launch to test?

Thanks to a generous forum member (sheryip) who offered us their preorders when we couldn't get any, we will have consoles at launch.

Glad to hear it!
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Trevor Phil on 10:57 AM - 09/30/20
So far it really seems to be a mistery. However i heard xim has no plans of releasing a xim 5. So in case it has no compatibility there is not so much hope we get a new device.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: sheryip on 11:36 AM - 09/30/20
So far it really seems to be a mistery. However i heard xim has no plans of releasing a xim 5. So in case it has no compatibility there is not so much hope we get a new device.

They did not post anything on the forums about this.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: OBsIV on 03:09 PM - 09/30/20
Any changes that will be needed to support next gen consoles (if possible) will be firmware related. As mentioned, Xbox Series is looking promising given their commitment to backwards and forward compatibility. PS5 is still a big unknown.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ThisGuy on 10:25 AM - 10/09/20
Article from PlayStation themselves, here is the link. Donít know if it helps any, but I figured any info is better then none.

 https://support.playstation.com/s/article/backward-compatibility?language=en_US&lan=


Compatible controllers on PS5 consoles
The DualSenseô wireless controller, DUALSHOCKô4 wireless controller and PlayStation officially licensed third-party gamepad controllers will work on PS5 consoles with supported PS4 games.

Specialty peripherals, such as officially licensed racing wheels, arcade sticks, and flight sticks, will work with PS5 games and supported PS4 games.
Both the PS Move Motion Controller and the PlayStation VR Aim Controller will work with supported PS VR games on PS5 consoles.

For the best experience, use a DUALSHOCK 4 wireless controller when playing PS4 games and PS VR games on a PS5 console.
PS5 games are not compatible with the DUALSHOCK 4 wireless controller.
To adjust the strength of controller vibration on PS5 consoles, go to Settings > Accessories > Controllers > Vibration Intensity.

The Platinum and Gold Wireless Headsets, as well as third-party headsets that connect via USB port or audio jack, will work on PS5 consoles (the headset companion app is not compatible with PS5 consoles).
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Od1n on 10:09 PM - 10/09/20
Specialty peripherals, such as officially licensed racing wheels, arcade sticks, and flight sticks, will work with PS5 games and supported PS4 games.

This is new for me, thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ceebs on 05:20 AM - 10/10/20
Yeah, I read that article too.

Looks as though authentication with a DS4 will be good, as the DualShock will work with PS4 games on the PS5. The problem lies in any PS5 games that have in-game features that are synced with Dualsense features. If haptic feedback doesn't work, you'll lose (for example) the ability to feel what type of terrain your driving through. Not a game changer, but if adaptive trigger failure means you can only shoot a bow at 100% velocity (or not at all) then that could break the game.

As always, we'll have to see what happens when XIM Tech get their hands on the console and some Dualsense enabled games.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: AgentSmith on 06:45 AM - 10/12/20
Oh of course. I have no doubt you will find a way considering you were able to make XIM Edge work w/PS4 when it was created for PS3.

Edit:
Just found this.. This should be interesting.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-08-20-deathloop-blocks-the-ps5-dualsense-controller-triggers-when-your-weapon-jams?fbclid=IwAR0CeQS4gt9Ncw7ZBx2MRp5avpWg3ZfrV8zeyLLUGaf4RoRfgG97W8QrMnU

Also according to Reddit they are also working on a feature where depending on how far you pull the trigger could be used as an "Alt Fire".  I guess that would have to be worked out as well or they need an option to disable it (or you are just stuck with always firing "alt fire")

That alt fire idea is already in some games, it is used for holding breath while sniping so full trigger is ADS only but to hold breath you only pull the trigger half way in Ghost recon breakpoint,   and in Sniper Elite 4 the quick aim 3rd person aim for the sniper is a half trigger pull on ADS.

IF it becomes wide spread we will be needing a similar setup to the way we can use buttons to do right stick and vary the sensitivity by something like the walk button.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: SIXRIP7ER on 08:20 PM - 10/27/20
The dualsense 5 is being reported as incompatible with the pc and i have seen numerous videos where people cant connect to pc via Bluetooth or cable, would this indicate that the xim might not be compatible as well or it is independent of pc connection.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: facade on 07:09 AM - 10/28/20
Oh of course. I have no doubt you will find a way considering you were able to make XIM Edge work w/PS4 when it was created for PS3.

Edit:
Just found this.. This should be interesting.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-08-20-deathloop-blocks-the-ps5-dualsense-controller-triggers-when-your-weapon-jams?fbclid=IwAR0CeQS4gt9Ncw7ZBx2MRp5avpWg3ZfrV8zeyLLUGaf4RoRfgG97W8QrMnU

Also according to Reddit they are also working on a feature where depending on how far you pull the trigger could be used as an "Alt Fire".  I guess that would have to be worked out as well or they need an option to disable it (or you are just stuck with always firing "alt fire")

That alt fire idea is already in some games, it is used for holding breath while sniping so full trigger is ADS only but to hold breath you only pull the trigger half way in Ghost recon breakpoint,   and in Sniper Elite 4 the quick aim 3rd person aim for the sniper is a half trigger pull on ADS.

IF it becomes wide spread we will be needing a similar setup to the way we can use buttons to do right stick and vary the sensitivity by something like the walk button.


Oh I know it's not new, the MGS series has been able to do that for years for both the shoulder buttons & face buttons. it just appears the console itself really wants to make a push on the feature.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Cith on 09:43 AM - 10/28/20
The dualsense 5 is being reported as incompatible with the pc and i have seen numerous videos where people cant connect to pc via Bluetooth or cable, would this indicate that the xim might not be compatible as well or it is independent of pc connection.

I've seen a few videos where the dualsense was working with no issues on PC (wired).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfZ6yLeC1OI look at the 6 minute mark.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: OBsIV on 09:56 AM - 10/28/20
I've seen a few videos where the dualsense was working with no issues on PC (wired).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfZ6yLeC1OI look at the 6 minute mark.

Thanks. What we are looking for is the new authentication protocol which will only occur when connected directly to a PS5.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ragenrok on 12:48 PM - 10/29/20
I've seen a few videos where the dualsense was working with no issues on PC (wired).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfZ6yLeC1OI look at the 6 minute mark.

Thanks. What we are looking for is the new authentication protocol which will only occur when connected directly to a PS5.

Possibly silly question but wouldn't using it on the remote play app allow you to test this early? Just curious lol. Really hoping it all goes well and that you can also get it to work on the xim 4, love my xim 4 and really don't want to replace it.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: OBsIV on 10:36 AM - 10/30/20
Yes, assuming remote play works like xCloud (i.e. goes through a PC) then yes, it'll work. But, it wouldn't tell us what a direct connection would look like.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ItZ_Me_Not_You on 01:49 PM - 10/30/20
DualSense And DualShock 4 Can Be Use For PS4 Games On PS5

https://www.psu.com/news/ps4-games-ps5-dualsense-dualshock/

Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: facade on 02:58 PM - 10/30/20
I've seen a few videos where the dualsense was working with no issues on PC (wired).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfZ6yLeC1OI look at the 6 minute mark.

Thanks. What we are looking for is the new authentication protocol which will only occur when connected directly to a PS5.

Possibly silly question but wouldn't using it on the remote play app allow you to test this early? Just curious lol. Really hoping it all goes well and that you can also get it to work on the xim 4, love my xim 4 and really don't want to replace it.

I couldn't get the XIM Apex to work on PS4 remote play. the app doesn't see the controller unless it's straight into the PC
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ThisGuy on 04:17 PM - 10/30/20
Speaking of PS4 remote play there is a guy on YouTube (Mystic) who just made a video showing ps5 dualsense working for PS4 remote play. So I would guess Authentication is close to the same, hopefully.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: OBsIV on 11:17 PM - 10/30/20
I don't know much about PS's remote play, but, I assume you do this through a PC? If so, you can use any controller for that (meaning, no authentication is done).
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ThisGuy on 07:06 PM - 10/31/20
Actually the last time I tried remote play you had to have a PS4 controller(on my pc), wouldnít let you do anything without it. That may have changed as it was over a year ago I tried it. Anyway another sign of good things is in that video he actually uses it with a ps3 also. So maybe good things.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: JDM on 07:38 AM - 11/01/20
Hi, Iíve not been on here for a while and canít really be asked to read the whole thread (sorry, Iím lazy😂)

Is it confirmed whether xim will work for xbsx and ps5 or one of the consoles?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: antithesis on 03:37 PM - 11/01/20
It will be confirmed once XIM Tech has XBSX and PS5 consoles in-hand. No-one has them yet, ergo they can't be confirmed as compatible or not.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Morgs91 on 11:11 PM - 11/01/20
Someone needs to get onto someone like MKBHD or Skillup and see if they can plug one in and give it a whirl /s

real talk, everyday i check this thread to see if anyone has the inside word about whats going to happen next week.... fingers crossed it is just plug and play like PC!!!
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: OBsIV on 11:19 AM - 11/03/20
It will definitely at least require a firmware update.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: DerHertog on 03:04 PM - 11/03/20
It will definitely at least require a firmware update.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfZ6yLeC1OI

On pc its detected like a normal controller atleast :) does this info give away some info we all are looking for?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: facade on 06:54 AM - 11/04/20
It will definitely at least require a firmware update.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfZ6yLeC1OI

On pc its detected like a normal controller atleast :) does this info give away some info we all are looking for?

From what he said before, unfortunately not.


Thanks. What we are looking for is the new authentication protocol which will only occur when connected directly to a PS5.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: CrashBashL on 07:32 AM - 11/04/20
Sony mentioned that only the PS5 controller will be suppoerted for PS5 exclusives.
I wonder how will that impact the Xim add-on/mouse/keyboard.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ThisGuy on 03:34 PM - 11/05/20
Did notice today in a video by sony that the controller still has the option of running wired or Bluetooth. Hopefully more good signs
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Morgs91 on 03:27 AM - 11/06/20
It will definitely at least require a firmware update.

is this with regard to the Dualsense? do you think that a ds4 will still work as it does now in games that support it?

personally i'm going to be grinding the hell out of D2 so I can wait for an update for ps5 exclusive games
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: sheryip on 02:59 PM - 11/06/20
It will definitely at least require a firmware update.

is this with regard to the Dualsense? do you think that a ds4 will still work as it does now in games that support it?

personally i'm going to be grinding the hell out of D2 so I can wait for an update for ps5 exclusive games
They recommend you use a DS4 controller for PS4 games but the Dualsense would work on it.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ioop16 on 08:58 AM - 11/07/20
any news ?? few people have the console already but unfortunally dont have xim apex probably  ;D

do u think it's on the good way ? (the compatibility) i mean what is the worst case ? need update ? i hope we dont need to buy a new xim, it's already expensive to buy one ...

thanks
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: The Pfhor on 08:53 PM - 11/08/20
I picked up the Dual Sense today at my local NEX. Iím going to test it with the Apex and a Mayfly MAGIC-S PRO tonight so Iíll report back when I can on how it works.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: The Pfhor on 05:40 AM - 11/09/20
No joy, unfortunately. I tried it (the MAGIC-S Pro) directly in the console and through all of the XIM Apex's ports, and the Dual Sense still did not work, nor did my mouse or keyboard (through the XIM). I had to try :)
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Adam_ on 06:16 AM - 11/09/20
Was this test on a PS4?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ioop16 on 07:16 AM - 11/09/20
need to update the firmware quickly please !!! need an update asap to have a compatibility with ps5  ! next week, can be great !!!
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: The Pfhor on 07:19 AM - 11/09/20
Was this test on a PS4?

Oh yeah I forgot to mention that, yes it was.

Also, the Dual Sense eventually did work on the PS4, through using an 8BitDo adapter hooked through the Magic-S Pro adapter. But the touch pad or rumble did not work.

I didn't get a PS5 preorder unfortunately, but hopefully I can find one later on.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: The Pfhor on 07:21 AM - 11/09/20
need to update the firmware quickly please !!! need an update asap to have a compatibility with ps5  ! next week, can be great !!!

Relax man. They have lives too, remember? It will get patched when it gets patched.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ioop16 on 07:22 AM - 11/09/20
great ... but we want to use xim apex on ps5 :)

hope a firmware asap, i will have Cold War but i will wait to play the game, need to play with xim apex

yes i know but the wait is huge for xim apex owners
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: The Pfhor on 07:25 AM - 11/09/20
great ... but we want to use xim apex on ps5 :)

hope a firmware asap, i will have Cold War but i will wait to play the game, need to play with xim apex

yes i know but the wait is huge for xim apex owners

Yes I am aware, I want to use my XIM Apex on PS5 when I get one too. But you have to be patient and not rush OBsIV and his team. Relax. It will come :)

Edit: Plus, I imagine neither OBsIV nor anyone on his team has a PS5 or an Xbox Series X yet, it's gonna be a minute.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: JeffLebawski on 07:43 AM - 11/09/20
Sony confirmed you can turn of haptic feedback entirely through the system settings. Good news i guess?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: The Pfhor on 07:45 AM - 11/09/20
Sony confirmed you can turn of haptic feedback entirely through the system settings. Good news i guess?

For using the XIM and those who need it off, I think agree it is good news. I will keep it on when I use the controller for other games though, personally.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Adam_ on 08:10 AM - 11/09/20
That's interesting. Do you have a PS3? I saw that it's actually compatible with the new controller. Maybe that could work.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: facade on 02:03 PM - 11/09/20
need to update the firmware quickly please !!! need an update asap to have a compatibility with ps5  ! next week, can be great !!!

As awesome as that would be there is so much work that goes into something like this.
I will be absolutely amazed if it only takes a week.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ioop16 on 02:27 PM - 11/09/20
yes .. but i just remember ... Cold War will be compatible with keyboard & mouse (native) without xim apex ? but lag input ....
   
previously, it was the case  (like fortnite)

but if it's the case, that means players with keyboard will play only Versus keyboard players ??
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: OBsIV on 03:18 PM - 11/09/20
I'm not sure how matchmaking is done there. Some games separate based on input type while others based on skill. If input type, then using a XIM means you'll game against other controller players (and enable you to continue to game with your controller friends).
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ioop16 on 03:46 PM - 11/09/20
but there is input lag without ximp apex no?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Od1n on 05:58 PM - 11/09/20
but there is input lag without ximp apex no?

With some mice and keyboard models yes, there can be lag with the native input. It only seems to work well with very specific mice and keyboard models.
At least that is how it has been with the last CoDs.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: richardkovics86 on 06:06 PM - 11/10/20
Picking up a PS5 tomorrow morning (21 hrs away, but whos counting), first thing i will be doing is testing the XIM and will post here my results.

Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ioop16 on 08:31 AM - 11/11/20
yes please thanks
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: cgravelle on 02:39 PM - 11/11/20
Just to confirm, I have had no issues with XIM4 on the Xbox Series X (was playing last night). It was a simple case of unplugging the USB from the One X and into the Series X. I made no changes, which means I am still using the old (One X) controller. I haven't tried the new one but don't care to knowing the current setup works.

Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: sheryip on 03:57 PM - 11/11/20
Just to confirm, I have had no issues with XIM4 on the Xbox Series X (was playing last night). It was a simple case of unplugging the USB from the One X and into the Series X. I made no changes, which means I am still using the old (One X) controller. I haven't tried the new one but don't care to knowing the current setup works.


There's a new firmware for xbox series X
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: richardkovics86 on 04:06 PM - 11/11/20
Ok just tested the XIM on the PS5 (USING PS4 Controller), It works in the UI atleast. I am still downloading games so cant try it in game yet.

Same method, ensure device communication is set to USB (it will say this doesnt affect ps4 controllers but it must)

I'll have a game of COD later and see how this goes.

I would say at this stage we will be able to play the old ps4 games atleast for now until the ps5 gets a firmware.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ioop16 on 04:08 PM - 11/11/20
please give me news soon thanks :)
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: JeffLebawski on 04:18 PM - 11/11/20
Have you tried it with the ps5 controller?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: AlMightyGadu on 06:50 PM - 11/11/20
Ok just tested the XIM on the PS5 (USING PS4 Controller), It works in the UI atleast. I am still downloading games so cant try it in game yet.

Same method, ensure device communication is set to USB (it will say this doesnt affect ps4 controllers but it must)

I'll have a game of COD later and see how this goes.

I would say at this stage we will be able to play the old ps4 games atleast for now until the ps5 gets a firmware.

I can confirm that this is working. I dont have xim Apex but i do have the older version of the xim4. And i was able to play overwatch with my playstation nav controller + mouse. As he mentioned i just had to ensure it was set to USB and connect it to the my Ps4 controller. Now i can rest my ps4 finally. :)
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: greeno85 on 05:56 AM - 11/12/20
@ObsIV when are you expecting to get your hands on a PS5 for dualsense compatibility? I haven't got my PS5 yet as I'm a UK peasant who has been cursed by a 19/11 launch instead of 12/11. Hopeful to have some compatibility by then?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: facade on 09:15 AM - 11/12/20
Ok just tested the XIM on the PS5 (USING PS4 Controller), It works in the UI atleast. I am still downloading games so cant try it in game yet.

Same method, ensure device communication is set to USB (it will say this doesnt affect ps4 controllers but it must)

I'll have a game of COD later and see how this goes.

I would say at this stage we will be able to play the old ps4 games atleast for now until the ps5 gets a firmware.

I can confirm that this is working. I dont have xim Apex but i do have the older version of the xim4. And i was able to play overwatch with my playstation nav controller + mouse. As he mentioned i just had to ensure it was set to USB and connect it to the my Ps4 controller. Now i can rest my ps4 finally. :)

So what I'm getting from this is it works out of the box with PS4 games?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: sheryip on 09:24 AM - 11/12/20
@ObsIV when are you expecting to get your hands on a PS5 for dualsense compatibility? I haven't got my PS5 yet as I'm a UK peasant who has been cursed by a 19/11 launch instead of 12/11. Hopeful to have some compatibility by then?
They should be getting their PS5 today according to my tracking

So if you connect the apex with the DS4 controller then unplug it and plug the DS controller in. it kind of works but you just keep spinning around
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: greeno85 on 09:29 AM - 11/12/20
@ObsIV when are you expecting to get your hands on a PS5 for dualsense compatibility? I haven't got my PS5 yet as I'm a UK peasant who has been cursed by a 19/11 launch instead of 12/11. Hopeful to have some compatibility by then?
They should be getting their PS5 today according to my tracking

So if you connect the apex with the DS4 controller then unplug it and plug the DS controller in. it kind of works but you just keep spinning around

sheryip you are definitely going to heaven donating your preorder like that! For the greater good my friend!
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: defmincex13 on 10:28 AM - 11/12/20
I can confirm that Xim4 works flawlessly on PS5 with Destiny 2 and APEX without literally any setup. Just plugged in xim4 from ps4 to ps5 and hit the PS button boom.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Ychyno on 11:08 AM - 11/12/20
I can verify that XIM apex works with ps5 using the DualShock controller. Just plug and play. And let me say itís buttery smooth!
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: brotski on 11:28 AM - 11/12/20
Picking up a PS5 tomorrow morning (21 hrs away, but whos counting), first thing i will be doing is testing the XIM and will post here my results.

any updates?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: sheryip on 01:22 PM - 11/12/20
Picking up a PS5 tomorrow morning (21 hrs away, but whos counting), first thing i will be doing is testing the XIM and will post here my results.

any updates?
NEeds a firmware update for Dualsense.  Dualshock controller works fine for ps4 games
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: warzoneking on 01:28 PM - 11/12/20
How's warzone on ps5?

Picking up a PS5 tomorrow morning (21 hrs away, but whos counting), first thing i will be doing is testing the XIM and will post here my results.

any updates?
NEeds a firmware update for Dualsense.  Dualshock controller works fine for ps4 games
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ioop16 on 04:22 PM - 11/12/20
but we dont care about ps4 games  ;D

it works with ps5 games ????

or only ps4 games + DS4 only

doesnt work with dualsense ?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: TheCityWok on 06:09 PM - 11/12/20
What the heck did they do with this console? Aiming feels good now with the controller from some reason.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: thelastword on 06:16 PM - 11/12/20
I can confirm that Xim4 works flawlessly on PS5 with Destiny 2 and APEX without literally any setup. Just plugged in xim4 from ps4 to ps5 and hit the PS button boom.

How is Destiny 2 looking on the PS5 mate? super smooth? Does PVP feel better?

Thanks
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: AMG on 09:04 PM - 11/12/20
Well, I got the bad news my PS5 was delayed for delivery, If I', lucky I will get it next week.

Third world issues.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: pfunk on 01:51 AM - 11/13/20
Not a ps4 owner.. should I order a ps4 controller for ps5? Coming next week
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Od1n on 03:23 AM - 11/13/20
Not a ps4 owner.. should I order a ps4 controller for ps5? Coming next week

Id say wait a few more days for Obsivs PS5 update on if compatibility is possible or not. If it is possible then you wont need a PS4 controller.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: AMG on 03:31 AM - 11/13/20
What the heck did they do with this console? Aiming feels good now with the controller from some reason.
Better frame rate = smooth input feeling.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: DerHertog on 05:26 AM - 11/13/20
Not a ps4 owner.. should I order a ps4 controller for ps5? Coming next week

Id say wait a few more days for Obsivs PS5 update on if compatibility is possible or not. If it is possible then you wont need a PS4 controller.

I really have a bad feeling about it :( fearing it wont be possible.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ioop16 on 07:10 AM - 11/13/20
its possible to play ps5 games with xim apex + Dualshock 4 plugged ?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Cith on 07:22 AM - 11/13/20
its possible to play ps5 games with xim apex + Dualshock 4 plugged ?

No, you cannot play any PS5 games with a DualShock 4 controller. Only with PS4 games, hoping obsiv can find a way to get it working.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Sorothos on 07:23 AM - 11/13/20
its possible to play ps5 games with xim apex + Dualshock 4 plugged ?

No, thats the problem. You can only play old PS4 Games with (upgraded) old PS4 Graphics on PS5 with Apex + DS4 at the moment.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ioop16 on 07:25 AM - 11/13/20
ok so its useless

who will buy ps5 to play ps4 games ...

hope an update soon :)

obsiv , u have a ps5 now ?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Scrotesmd2 on 07:43 AM - 11/13/20
I'm guessing it will.take a while like PS4. It took a lot longer on PS4 over Xbox one but hopefully Obsiv can crack it.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: JeffLebawski on 07:48 AM - 11/13/20
Do you remember how long it took for the ps4?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Scrotesmd2 on 07:54 AM - 11/13/20
It was months mate from.memory months and not weeks. If it's similar to ds4 I'd say it could be quick, only Obsiv can answer I just want to know it's possible.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: OBsIV on 12:08 PM - 11/13/20
We are looking at it now, but, unfortunately this isn't going to be a quick thing.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: PinnieTHEwooH on 12:39 PM - 11/13/20
Don't worry. Take the time you need to make it work.  8)
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ioop16 on 12:57 PM - 11/13/20
ok i hope soon

so for the moment only DS4 + ps4 games ok ...

do your best your the future update, hope soon, good luck
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: greeno85 on 05:31 PM - 11/13/20
We are looking at it now, but, unfortunately this isn't going to be a quick thing.

Hi OBsIV I know this is kind of of a 'how longs a piece of string' question and we all really appreciate the work you do, but are we talking days or weeks in your opinion on the ps5 compatibility? Really appreciate it
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: sheryip on 06:01 PM - 11/13/20
We are looking at it now, but, unfortunately this isn't going to be a quick thing.

If you have the DS4 plugged in then swap it to a DS controller.  It kind of works but keeps spinning one direction in COD.  all the buttons works fine.   probably not very helpful but it's something
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: AMG on 06:54 PM - 11/13/20
Sweet, my PS5 just arrived! :D can't wait to go back home to try it.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: aldo on 03:37 AM - 11/14/20
with My xim 4 and xim apex I can play Ps4 games on Ps5, How ? , a new icon papered on my Ps4 pro,
Remote play, I connected my ps4 remotely on the Ps5, and I can use Xim .important is to have a good internet speed.
It works perfectly for me.

Al
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Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Depaoli on 11:10 AM - 11/14/20
Hi i have a monitor 1080p 165 hz but its with 1.4 hdmi is it compatible with ps5? (Asus VG278QR)
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: facade on 11:59 AM - 11/14/20
We are looking at it now, but, unfortunately this isn't going to be a quick thing.


So you're saying it's possible though?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Stan123 on 12:14 PM - 11/14/20
Hi i have a monitor 1080p 165 hz but its with 1.4 hdmi is it compatible with ps5? (Asus VG278QR)

Yes.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Depaoli on 12:30 PM - 11/14/20
Hi i have a monitor 1080p 165 hz but its with 1.4 hdmi is it compatible with ps5? (Asus VG278QR)

Yes.

tnx! cheers!
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: AMG on 01:54 PM - 11/14/20
I'm using XIM Apex and Titan Two without issues on the PS5 Digital, playing PS4 games.

Make sure to select USB as communication method with a DS4 gen2 controller (CUH-ZCT2) connected to the XIM Apex hub.

My XIM Apex has an old firmware (April 2018) everything goes buttery smooth.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: facade on 02:45 PM - 11/14/20
I'm using XIM Apex and Titan Two without issues on the PS5 Digital.

Make sure to select USB as communication method with a DS4 gen2 controller (CUH-ZCT2) connected to the XIM Apex hub.

My XIM Apex has an old firmware (April 2018) everything goes buttery smooth.



For PS5 games or PS4 games? Just Apex is working fine on the PS4 games I've tried.

Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Zimbooo on 02:59 PM - 11/14/20
its possible to play ps5 games with xim apex + Dualshock 4 plugged ?

No, you cannot play any PS5 games with a DualShock 4 controller. Only with PS4 games, hoping obsiv can find a way to get it working.


Is Cold War a PS4 or PS5 game then?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: facade on 03:03 PM - 11/14/20
its possible to play ps5 games with xim apex + Dualshock 4 plugged ?



No, you cannot play any PS5 games with a DualShock 4 controller. Only with PS4 games, hoping obsiv can find a way to get it working.


Is Cold War a PS4 or PS5 game then?

Both. 

Just make sure you start the "ps4" version by pressing "options" on "Cold War" and then go to "game version" then select "ps4"
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ioop16 on 03:41 PM - 11/14/20
so its ps4 game not ps5 ....
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: facade on 04:32 PM - 11/14/20
so its ps4 game not ps5 ....

There are 2 versions.  One for Ps4 and one for PS5. If you download the ps5 version it won't work and if you download the ps4 verson it will. 

Pretty much you will have 2 full versions of CoD on your console if you install both but it will only work for the PS4 verson
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: stratox on 05:39 PM - 11/14/20
Has anyone tested if rainbow six siege works with the xim apex on the ps5?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: sheryip on 01:16 AM - 11/15/20
We are looking at it now, but, unfortunately this isn't going to be a quick thing.
under controller settings, there's a communication method.   may need to switch that to usb cable instead of Bluetooth
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ioop16 on 07:23 AM - 11/15/20
so its ps4 game not ps5 ....

There are 2 versions.  One for Ps4 and one for PS5. If you download the ps5 version it won't work and if you download the ps4 verson it will. 

Pretty much you will have 2 full versions of CoD on your console if you install both but it will only work for the PS4 verson

yes i know but i mean if we bought ps5, it's to play ps5 games ....
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: MrBrutalFrosty on 10:20 AM - 11/15/20
cold war runs like a treat even on ps5 in backwards compat mode ps4 pro looks blurry just suclks having trshy audio
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ioop16 on 10:24 AM - 11/15/20
what about ps5 games ? did u find a good way? working on an update or nothing at all for the moment ??
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: facade on 10:56 AM - 11/15/20
so its ps4 game not ps5 ....

There are 2 versions.  One for Ps4 and one for PS5. If you download the ps5 version it won't work and if you download the ps4 verson it will. 

Pretty much you will have 2 full versions of CoD on your console if you install both but it will only work for the PS4 verson

yes i know but i mean if we bought ps5, it's to play ps5 games ....


Unfortunately yea.
However it was known it wouldn't work (or abysmally low chances for it to work ) for PS5 games from the beginning when Sony stated you can only use a Dualsense controller for PS5 games.  It only worked for Xbox so quickly because MS allowed old controllers to work on S X right out of the box
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: facade on 11:01 AM - 11/15/20
what about ps5 games ? did u find a good way? working on an update or nothing at all for the moment ??

In case you didn't see it.

We are looking at it now, but, unfortunately this isn't going to be a quick thing.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ioop16 on 11:04 AM - 11/15/20
ok i think i will plug directly the keyboard & mouse on my ps5, it will works for cold war ps5 version, right ??
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: facade on 12:38 PM - 11/15/20
Yea CW has native kb/m support
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ioop16 on 12:47 PM - 11/15/20
but cable is too short for me i think, can i use the xim to use my keyboard / mouse ? it's like a hub this xim apex no ?

or should i plug directly my keyboard & mouse directly to the ps5 ???
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Twaxxed on 12:59 PM - 11/15/20
I Have only the Old XIM4 will it work With PS5?
Everywhere i just read about apex
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: AMG on 01:58 PM - 11/15/20
Yes, XIM4 works on PS5 but only on PS4 games, DS4 controller gen2 connected on the XIM4 (USB Communication Method).

We need a pin on these.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Od1n on 05:36 AM - 11/17/20
what about ps5 and a ps4 game patched for ps5 (aka destiny 2)?
for now destiny 2 runs on ps5 like on ps4, but soon it will receive a massive patch for improved fps.

This will most likely be a PS5 version then as it wont be accessible for PS4 users, which is the big difference between PS5 enhanced games and PS4 games running on the PS5.
Though i could see the game not enforcing the DS2 controller, so until further infos are shared by Bungie its basically just a guessing game at this point ;).
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Denzel on 09:02 AM - 11/17/20
I think that it is normal that it will take a while to get the XIM working perfectly on PS5.

So, thanks Obs1v and all XIM Testers/Working/Admins/People :)

I didnt preorder the PS5. I will buy one when the XIM will work for it.

So everyone waiting, be patient please.

Good luck !
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: JeffLebawski on 09:13 AM - 11/17/20
Well looks like according to Mr. OBsIV the adapter won't be compatible with the dualsense to play ps5 games. Feeling bummed out about it but atleast i managed to sell my ps5 for 1900 yesterday night.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: facade on 10:29 AM - 11/17/20
Well looks like according to Mr. OBsIV the adapter won't be compatible with the dualsense to play ps5 games.

He didn't say that though.

We are looking at it now, but, unfortunately this isn't going to be a quick thing.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Scrotesmd2 on 11:12 AM - 11/17/20
Yeah it's a similar story to ps4 it took a couple of months to get it to work, I have faith in the team and Obsiv, going to have to be patient .  I'll hold fire on buying a ps5 until I know xim works , its black and white for me. If it can't be done I'll buy the series x instead
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Gurkenbaum88 on 12:28 PM - 11/17/20
Yeah it's a similar story to ps4 it took a couple of months to get it to work, I have faith in the team and Obsiv, going to have to be patient .  I'll hold fire on buying a ps5 until I know xim works , its black and white for me. If it can't be done I'll buy the series x instead

yeah same here.. ps5 arrives on Thursday.. i'm really thinking about to swapping the ps5 for a xbox
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: facade on 12:30 PM - 11/17/20
Yeah it's a similar story to ps4 it took a couple of months to get it to work, I have faith in the team and Obsiv, going to have to be patient .  I'll hold fire on buying a ps5 until I know xim works , its black and white for me. If it can't be done I'll buy the series x instead


I mean I love the XIM as much as the next guy (have been using them since PS3) but I wouldn't base my purchase on if it works for the console or not.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: AMG on 03:22 PM - 11/17/20
Same here, I'm stuck on Playstation but not for the brand, because all my IRL friends play on Playstation, slaughtering younglings on multiplayer is our poker night and I enjoy many of the exclusive titles.

If you can go on what ever console you wish, and you don't have a nice gaming PC; Xbox is the best choice.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: DrBlume on 03:24 AM - 11/18/20
Kein Problem, durch die Cross Play Funktion in Apex und CoD sowie zu erwarten in folgenden Games wechsele ich eben von PS auf X Box
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Oogway on 09:17 AM - 11/18/20
Hello i have xim4 only and ps4, XIM4 will support ps5 with dualsense? Is support ps5 games or ps4 games playable on ps5 only?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Od1n on 09:32 AM - 11/18/20
Hello i have xim4 only and ps4, XIM4 will support ps5 with dualsense? Is support ps5 games or ps4 games playable on ps5 only?

Hey, these questions have already been answered in this topic, just check out the previous pages for an answer on those! :)
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Oogway on 10:40 AM - 11/18/20
Hello i have xim4 only and ps4, XIM4 will support ps5 with dualsense? Is support ps5 games or ps4 games playable on ps5 only?

Hey, these questions have already been answered in this topic, just check out the previous pages for an answer on those! :)

Many answers but i dont find corect answer. All owners of XIM4 is waiting for new patch or new xim? Sorry my english is bad and i am new owner of xim. Sorry for spam :/
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: facade on 10:55 AM - 11/18/20
Hello i have xim4 only and ps4, XIM4 will support ps5 with dualsense? Is support ps5 games or ps4 games playable on ps5 only?

Hey, these questions have already been answered in this topic, just check out the previous pages for an answer on those! :)

Many answers but i dont find corect answer. All owners of XIM4 is waiting for new patch or new xim? Sorry my english is bad and i am new owner of xim. Sorry for spam :/

Nobody knows yet unfortunately.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Meister Propper on 01:44 AM - 11/19/20
I have time till BF6 arrives  ;) so good luck XIM Team  :D
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Sorothos on 07:23 AM - 11/19/20
Does XIM Link work with the DS4 controller and a PS4 game on the PS5?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Od1n on 08:39 AM - 11/19/20
This has lately been confirmed by a user, so yes it should work.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ThisGuy on 10:50 AM - 11/19/20
Does XIM Link work with the DS4 controller and a PS4 game on the PS5?

Yes this works, even with a v1 dual shock 4
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ioop16 on 05:28 AM - 11/20/20
i dont have ds4 but i want to play Cyberpunk (10/12)on my ps5  with K&M, how can i do ? i need to buy a DS4 for the moment ?

not other solution ?

and if i download upgrade ps5 version, it will not works with K&M even with DS4 (Disk PS4 version Cyberpunk) ??
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: antithesis on 05:30 AM - 11/20/20
Given Cyberpunk is a single-player game, input lag isn't critical, so if you have a PC or Mac handy (or a PS4), you can use the PS Remote Play app to play PS5 games using a XIM APEX.

If you connect XIM APEX direct to the PS5, you can currently only play PS4 games, ie the PS4 version of Cyberpunk.

In both cases, a DualShock 4 V2 is needed, unless using XIM Link.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: chilli on 10:13 AM - 11/20/20
At least apex legends is working on the PS5. Just connected everything :-)
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: mac2 on 12:03 PM - 11/20/20
its possible to play ps5 games with xim apex + Dualshock 4 plugged ?



No, you cannot play any PS5 games with a DualShock 4 controller. Only with PS4 games, hoping obsiv can find a way to get it working.


Is Cold War a PS4 or PS5 game then?

Both. 

Just make sure you start the "ps4" version by pressing "options" on "Cold War" and then go to "game version" then select "ps4"

Just tried cold war this afternoon:
1)Not sure what version I installed (I have the cross gen bundle)but I simply installed at the prompt when I setup my PS5 - it does not seem to be labeled as "PS5 version" but did have a 120hz display option - can see if you click on option button there is a dropdown to switch to the PS4 (which I presume would install the PS4 version?) - if i installed this PS4 version is there much difference between the PS4 and PS5 versions (aside from XIM not working on the 5 version?) and would I need to plug my PS4 or PS5 controller into the XIM if I tried running the PS4 version for it to work?
2)I also noticed there was a keyboard/mouse option in game - even though I had mouse/keyboard plugged in via xim not sure it was detecting - anyone know if I plugged my usb keyboard and mouse direct into the PS5 should this work as an alternative?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Saikou on 01:55 PM - 11/20/20
Just a note for Xim4 Users... I had to use a rear USB port on the PS5 for mine to work properly. It worked via the front, but would stop registering after approx 5 mins
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: facade on 02:20 PM - 11/20/20
its possible to play ps5 games with xim apex + Dualshock 4 plugged ?



No, you cannot play any PS5 games with a DualShock 4 controller. Only with PS4 games, hoping obsiv can find a way to get it working.


Is Cold War a PS4 or PS5 game then?

Both. 

Just make sure you start the "ps4" version by pressing "options" on "Cold War" and then go to "game version" then select "ps4"

Just tried cold war this afternoon:
1)Not sure what version I installed (I have the cross gen bundle)but I simply installed at the prompt when I setup my PS5 - it does not seem to be labeled as "PS5 version" but did have a 120hz display option - can see if you click on option button there is a dropdown to switch to the PS4 (which I presume would install the PS4 version?) - if i installed this PS4 version is there much difference between the PS4 and PS5 versions (aside from XIM not working on the 5 version?) and would I need to plug my PS4 or PS5 controller into the XIM if I tried running the PS4 version for it to work?
2)I also noticed there was a keyboard/mouse option in game - even though I had mouse/keyboard plugged in via xim not sure it was detecting - anyone know if I plugged my usb keyboard and mouse direct into the PS5 should this work as an alternative?


IIRC only the PS5 version can do 120hz so if you probably have the PS5 version installed.
If you press "options" with CoD selected it should give you a "select version" option, even if you only have 1 version, and beside it should say PS4 or PS5.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: mac2 on 02:36 PM - 11/20/20
its possible to play ps5 games with xim apex + Dualshock 4 plugged ?



No, you cannot play any PS5 games with a DualShock 4 controller. Only with PS4 games, hoping obsiv can find a way to get it working.


Is Cold War a PS4 or PS5 game then?

Both. 

Just make sure you start the "ps4" version by pressing "options" on "Cold War" and then go to "game version" then select "ps4"

Just tried cold war this afternoon:
1)Not sure what version I installed (I have the cross gen bundle)but I simply installed at the prompt when I setup my PS5 - it does not seem to be labeled as "PS5 version" but did have a 120hz display option - can see if you click on option button there is a dropdown to switch to the PS4 (which I presume would install the PS4 version?) - if i installed this PS4 version is there much difference between the PS4 and PS5 versions (aside from XIM not working on the 5 version?) and would I need to plug my PS4 or PS5 controller into the XIM if I tried running the PS4 version for it to work?
2)I also noticed there was a keyboard/mouse option in game - even though I had mouse/keyboard plugged in via xim not sure it was detecting - anyone know if I plugged my usb keyboard and mouse direct into the PS5 should this work as an alternative?


IIRC only the PS5 version can do 120hz so if you probably have the PS5 version installed.
If you press "options" with CoD selected it should give you a "select version" option, even if you only have 1 version, and beside it should say PS4 or PS5.

thanks for the reply.
Just gave it a try and downloaded the PS4 version of cold war and also COD remastered2 (so both PS4 games) - after connecting it up my PS4 controller is working and was recognized  ok  (selected a profile from the app and the Xim changed color) - but the keyboard and mouse does not appear to work (they dont register anything)...........anyone any ideas what I might be doing wrong? (note I am using the Xim Apex with the Apex app and I am using the front usb)
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: facade on 02:38 PM - 11/20/20
its possible to play ps5 games with xim apex + Dualshock 4 plugged ?



No, you cannot play any PS5 games with a DualShock 4 controller. Only with PS4 games, hoping obsiv can find a way to get it working.


Is Cold War a PS4 or PS5 game then?

Both. 

Just make sure you start the "ps4" version by pressing "options" on "Cold War" and then go to "game version" then select "ps4"

Just tried cold war this afternoon:
1)Not sure what version I installed (I have the cross gen bundle)but I simply installed at the prompt when I setup my PS5 - it does not seem to be labeled as "PS5 version" but did have a 120hz display option - can see if you click on option button there is a dropdown to switch to the PS4 (which I presume would install the PS4 version?) - if i installed this PS4 version is there much difference between the PS4 and PS5 versions (aside from XIM not working on the 5 version?) and would I need to plug my PS4 or PS5 controller into the XIM if I tried running the PS4 version for it to work?
2)I also noticed there was a keyboard/mouse option in game - even though I had mouse/keyboard plugged in via xim not sure it was detecting - anyone know if I plugged my usb keyboard and mouse direct into the PS5 should this work as an alternative?


IIRC only the PS5 version can do 120hz so if you probably have the PS5 version installed.
If you press "options" with CoD selected it should give you a "select version" option, even if you only have 1 version, and beside it should say PS4 or PS5.

thanks for the reply.
Just gave it a try and downloaded the PS4 version of cold war and also COD remastered2 (so both PS4 games) - after connecting it up my PS4 controller is working and was recognized  ok  (selected a profile from the app and the Xim changed color) - but the keyboard and mouse does not appear to work (they dont register anything)...........anyone any ideas what I might be doing wrong? (note I am using the Xim Apex with the Apex app and I am using the front usb)

Don't forget to go into the controller options and tell it to talk to the controller via USB.
It says it only does that for the Dual Sense but it appears to be lying.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ragenrok on 03:19 PM - 11/20/20
Just a note for Xim4 Users... I had to use a rear USB port on the PS5 for mine to work properly. It worked via the front, but would stop registering after approx 5 mins

Weird, I played BF1 for about 2 hours last night with my xim4 on my PS5 and didn't have a single issue having it off the front USB. I know I was having an issue like that before on the xbox one but changing out one of the cables fixed it.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: sheryip on 03:35 PM - 11/20/20
Does XIM Link work with the DS4 controller and a PS4 game on the PS5?

Yes this works, even with a v1 dual shock 4
What did you do to make a v1 work?  I have 2 v1 and both doesn't work.  Trying to bid on a v2 on ebay but people want too much for it
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ThisGuy on 04:02 PM - 11/20/20
Does XIM Link work with the DS4 controller and a PS4 game on the PS5?

Yes this works, even with a v1 dual shock 4
What did you do to make a v1 work?  I have 2 v1 and both doesn't work.  Trying to bid on a v2 on ebay but people want too much for it

I hooked it up like regular and make sure you have controller communication set to usb not Bluetooth
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: sheryip on 04:12 PM - 11/20/20
Does XIM Link work with the DS4 controller and a PS4 game on the PS5?

Yes this works, even with a v1 dual shock 4
What did you do to make a v1 work?  I have 2 v1 and both doesn't work.  Trying to bid on a v2 on ebay but people want too much for it

I hooked it up like regular and make sure you have controller communication set to usb not Bluetooth
which gen of v1 do you have?

Whats the number above Made in china on the back of the controller

edit:

Doh... I guess V1 doesn't mean all controllers before V2.   I have a Gen1/2 controller.   Gen3 are v1
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: steve8114 on 06:02 PM - 11/20/20
Is it true the new dualsense controller works with ps3? if so, surely this is a good sign that the team here will be able to make it work with the ps5?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ioop16 on 05:37 AM - 11/21/20
i just plug directly my keyboard & mouse to my ps5 and play ps5 version of cold war (without xim apex) it works perfectly
need to configure keyboard directly in option of the game

it works only to play online, or zombie, or warzone

for campaign, option of keyboard & mouse locked ! u can only play with dualsense
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Leo559 on 03:48 PM - 11/21/20
Iím willing to pay to have the new firmware so it makes my xim compatible with my ps5 games
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: HoltKezed on 11:31 PM - 11/21/20
Greetings, Mr. OBsIV !!!

I know you must be working hard on this reverse engineering. I just wanted to add some context to my... urgency.!!

I have both a Xim 4 and a Xim Apex. I have PS4 and PS3 controllers here.. Also a Titan Two that I never programmed for anything, it's just here, maybe it can be of help?

I already have my PS5 ready here and my digital copy of Demon Souls Remake that I want to play...

THE PROBLEM IS... I don't have my right hand, was born without it.

I played all console exclusives I wanted using a Left Handed Naga and a Razer Blackwidow keyboard, it just works and it's wonderful.!!!

:D I hope all this compatibility issue is resolved soon!!!

Now... to everyone in this forum and topic, is there a makeshift way to play PS5 with mouse and keyboard? I've been reading somethings about the PS3 controller syncs with PS5, also that one could use Xim Link to the PC and/or remote play... from the PS4 or PS5 to the PC?

Is there a way to play right now? I don't mind input lag or anything, I just want to experience Demon Souls Remaster as soon as I can.

XIM changed my life and this forum is AMAZING, so many helpful enthusiasts eager to help!!!

THANK YOU ALL GUYS
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: antithesis on 03:52 AM - 11/22/20
If you still have a PS4 handy, try using the PS5 RemotePlay app with the XIM APEX & a DS4 connected to PS4. RemotePlay works with PS5 games.

Alternately, try the PS RemotePlay app on PC or Mac.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Punchy888 on 09:57 AM - 11/22/20
If you can see this sony, id just like you to know that im considering picking up your console over the xbox series x. Back in 2014 i crashed my motorcycle leaving my left leg fractured. Th doctors did all they could and in the end put a metal plate with screws to save me from loosing it.

Today in 2020 im bright as ever however my bones are soo stiff, if i pick up a control my hands ache in agony!. My point is the XIM "enables" me to play your fantastic!!!! games and soo what if i pawn fanboys at cod !#? Ive joined some really hard lobbies and i havent managed to get ONE KILL. That new game coiming out where your in tokyo and you do hand gestures like naruto!!! sick!!!

Guys i play for the fun of it so if you could please let the guys at XIM play. please?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: xasert on 10:24 AM - 11/22/20
i was the 1 that started this thread  13 pages ago .A little recap please :its possible to play ps5 games with mouse and keyboard with  xim apex  ?    like we ve done with the ps4    read that it ll be not possible to play with PS4 and PS3 controllers also  through  xim  isnt it ?  but i use xim just for mouse and keyb will they  be ok for ps5 with xim apex ?   are we sure that apex will not make a new xim just for ps5?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: HailAlistair on 07:43 PM - 11/22/20
I did not pre-order, nor buy a PS5 at launch just because I hate controllers so much, that the only way for me to play PlayStation Exclusives is the Xim Apex + Xim Link to PC + Azeron with my left hand and Corsair Scimitar with my right.

I can only hope that the Xim Apex (or a new Xim product) will be compatible within the next few months.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: antithesis on 09:29 PM - 11/22/20
I did not pre-order, nor buy a PS5 at launch just because I hate controllers so much, that the only way for me to play PlayStation Exclusives is the Xim Apex + Xim Link to PC + Azeron with my left hand and Corsair Scimitar with my right.

I can only hope that the Xim Apex (or a new Xim product) will be compatible within the next few months.
Give you're playing via XIM Link, try connecting the XIM APEX to PC and use the PS Remote Play app. Apparently it works for PS5 games. A DS4 V2 controller is also required.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Sorothos on 06:34 AM - 11/23/20
I did not pre-order, nor buy a PS5 at launch just because I hate controllers so much, that the only way for me to play PlayStation Exclusives is the Xim Apex + Xim Link to PC + Azeron with my left hand and Corsair Scimitar with my right.

I can only hope that the Xim Apex (or a new Xim product) will be compatible within the next few months.
Give you're playing via XIM Link, try connecting the XIM APEX to PC and use the PS Remote Play app. Apparently it works for PS5 games. A DS4 V2 controller is also required.

I'm going to try remote play today after reading that there should be no input lag. (on the PS5+PC, both in the same ethernet)
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: gaminglad on 06:39 AM - 11/23/20
Let us know how it goes, I am hopeful that we will get native support but remote play may have to do for now.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: antithesis on 06:39 AM - 11/23/20
I believe PS4 Remote Play is about 150ms over ethernet (more on wifi) based on Computer Vision capture in Gtuner IV for Titan Two.

If PS5 Remote Play performs similarly, it would be usable for single-player games, but I'd be hesitant to use it for online multiplayer.

I don't own a PS5, so this is speculation, but I'd be surprised if it's less than 100ms.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: KAL-EL on 07:05 AM - 11/23/20
I hope this works, as I've had xim4 for a while and don't want to be forced into buying another one.
If we do can we get a discount?? I bought mine from the XIM4 website Obvs.

Im really hoping we can plug the xim4 into the new PS5 and new controller. If not I wont be able to use a PS5 as I need M&K as my thumbs through accident I cant use a pad.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Scrotesmd2 on 08:15 AM - 11/23/20
I doubt ps5 compatibility will be an issue on the apex hardware its gona be more an issue of its possible at all , assuming they must need to break some type of encryption or something. I'd say it's very complex but if anyone can do it then Obsiv can.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Sorothos on 08:35 AM - 11/23/20
I believe PS4 Remote Play is about 150ms over ethernet (more on wifi) based on Computer Vision capture in Gtuner IV for Titan Two.

If PS5 Remote Play performs similarly, it would be usable for single-player games, but I'd be hesitant to use it for online multiplayer.

I don't own a PS5, so this is speculation, but I'd be surprised if it's less than 100ms.

PS5 Remote Play is not PS4 Remote Play. In PS4 Remote Play there is a input lag.

There is an interesting article about PS5 Remote Play:

https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2019/10/ps5s_controller_could_reduce_latency_with_playstation_now

Quote
As discovered by Dutch website Techtastic, the manufacturer has filed a patent for technology that will effectively allow its controller to interface directly with a server.

What does this mean? Well, let’s look at how things currently work with the DualShock 4 with regards to PS Now: inputs are sent from the controller to the PlayStation 4. This information is then transferred from the PS4 to your router, which is then beamed to the Japanese giant’s server farm, prompting the software to respond. With this new technology, however, the signal would be sent directly from the peripheral to your router, skipping a step.

It’s the exact same technology that Google’s Stadia uses, and the idea is to reduce latency.

So with PS5 maybe there is no input lag. I have to test this.

How to measure my input lag if I'm testing this?

EDIT: Ok, i think there is a problem. You mentioned in another thread:


If you don't have the patience to wait for XIM Tech to work it out, your options are -
a) play PS4 games on PS5 using XIM APEX and a DS4 V2 controller,
b) play PS5 games on PS5 using XIM APEX, a DS4 V2 and the PS Remote Play app on PC or Mac, or
c) get an Xbox Series X console instead.

So, the "Remote Play trick" is bound to DS4 V2. Not to the PS5 controller. But the "no input lag Stadia feature" is according to the article only a feature of new PS5 controller.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: gaminglad on 02:22 PM - 11/23/20
Hi OBsIV, just fyi incase it helps with figuring out the authentication protocol for PS5, the PS4 gaming sheels from Logitech G29/G923 will soon be compatible with PS5 as per an official tweet. They are apparently pending approval from Sony.

https://twitter.com/logitechg/status/1296609447670738944?lang=en

It looks like Sony is trying to do some sort of encrypted authentication for controller possibly to stop XIM/fake controllers from working on the PS5. My guess is that it is more for the fake controllers which eat into their controller sales.

Also happy to see that you are working with J2KBR on this. I had a quick look around their forums and some of the stuff he has done with computer vision looks excellent.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: HocusPenus on 02:49 PM - 11/23/20
Hmmm interesting. When the ps4 was released, did the dualshock 4 also have some sort of encrypted authentication that was problematic for the adapter?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: gaminglad on 03:15 PM - 11/23/20
Some more info on DS5 authenticaiton protocol etc - https://github.com/matlo/GIMX/issues/672

I am no expert but the authentication seems like the roadblock that we are facing. Hopefully OBsIV and J2 can figure it out. I imagine they have some kind of USB sniffer that can be used to demystify the protocol.

Hmmm interesting. When the ps4 was released, did the dualshock 4 also have some sort of encrypted authentication that was problematic for the adapter?
I haven't been following XIM since then but I have read that it took over a month to get it working. Not sure if my info is true.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: antithesis on 04:47 PM - 11/23/20
PS5 Remote Play is not PS4 Remote Play. In PS4 Remote Play there is a input lag.

So, the "Remote Play trick" is bound to DS4 V2. Not to the PS5 controller. But the "no input lag Stadia feature" is according to the article only a feature of new PS5 controller.
There will always be input lag, or more correctly in the case of PS Remote Play, network lag + input lag.

Remote Play is essentially a video feed from the console to the Remote Play app. How it performs depends on Remote Play settings, video bandwidth, video encoding / decoding, local network traffic, wireless interference etc. Ethernet is the fastest and most reliable network infrastructure, but there will still be lag in the video feed, probably in the vicinity of 100+ms.

The remote server "Stadia feature" of DualSense isn't as miraculous as it appears. All it does is remove one link in the chain by bypassing the computer (or console in PS5 Remote Play on PS4) to ping your local router directly from the controller. This will likely save only a few ms or so in each direction, which is almost no saving at all. All of the bigger lag inducers are still upstream on the local or wide area network.

Try the PS Remote Play app - it'll probably feel ok for single-player, but you should notice some lag for online multiplayer. It'll be better than not playing PS5 games at all, but installing the PS4 game version on PS5 will be less laggy than Remote Play. DualSense controllers don't (yet) work with XIM APEX, but I doubt Remote Play is significantly less laggy given the roundtrip saving is at the first and fastest link in the chain.

Let us know how you get on with the Remote Play test :)
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Sorothos on 05:12 AM - 11/24/20
There will always be input lag, or more correctly in the case of PS Remote Play, network lag + input lag.

Remote Play is essentially a video feed from the console to the Remote Play app. How it performs depends on Remote Play settings, video bandwidth, video encoding / decoding, local network traffic, wireless interference etc. Ethernet is the fastest and most reliable network infrastructure, but there will still be lag in the video feed, probably in the vicinity of 100+ms.

The remote server "Stadia feature" of DualSense isn't as miraculous as it appears. All it does is remove one link in the chain by bypassing the computer (or console in PS5 Remote Play on PS4) to ping your local router directly from the controller. This will likely save only a few ms or so in each direction, which is almost no saving at all. All of the bigger lag inducers are still upstream on the local or wide area network.

Try the PS Remote Play app - it'll probably feel ok for single-player, but you should notice some lag for online multiplayer. It'll be better than not playing PS5 games at all, but installing the PS4 game version on PS5 will be less laggy than Remote Play. DualSense controllers don't (yet) work with XIM APEX, but I doubt Remote Play is significantly less laggy given the roundtrip saving is at the first and fastest link in the chain.

Let us know how you get on with the Remote Play test :)

I have tested it, but directly saw that Share Play only offers a maximum resolution of 1080p.

This is much worse than if I just keep playing the PS4 version with 2160p (4k).

My internet would even manage a live broadcast in 2160p, but this is not offered with Share Play.

So this is not an option for me.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: sheryip on 12:06 PM - 11/24/20
There will always be input lag, or more correctly in the case of PS Remote Play, network lag + input lag.

Remote Play is essentially a video feed from the console to the Remote Play app. How it performs depends on Remote Play settings, video bandwidth, video encoding / decoding, local network traffic, wireless interference etc. Ethernet is the fastest and most reliable network infrastructure, but there will still be lag in the video feed, probably in the vicinity of 100+ms.

The remote server "Stadia feature" of DualSense isn't as miraculous as it appears. All it does is remove one link in the chain by bypassing the computer (or console in PS5 Remote Play on PS4) to ping your local router directly from the controller. This will likely save only a few ms or so in each direction, which is almost no saving at all. All of the bigger lag inducers are still upstream on the local or wide area network.

Try the PS Remote Play app - it'll probably feel ok for single-player, but you should notice some lag for online multiplayer. It'll be better than not playing PS5 games at all, but installing the PS4 game version on PS5 will be less laggy than Remote Play. DualSense controllers don't (yet) work with XIM APEX, but I doubt Remote Play is significantly less laggy given the roundtrip saving is at the first and fastest link in the chain.

Let us know how you get on with the Remote Play test :)

I have tested it, but directly saw that Share Play only offers a maximum resolution of 1080p.

This is much worse than if I just keep playing the PS4 version with 2160p (4k).

My internet would even manage a live broadcast in 2160p, but this is not offered with Share Play.

So this is not an option for me.
The best thing to do is have the ps5 and pc on the same table.  You would use the pc for remote play and xim. Connect to it using the remote play on PC with Xim connected. Once you got that done, switch your video source back to PS5. You won't get any video lag or compression that way but will have a little bit of input lag. it wasn't too noticeable
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Morgs91 on 04:25 PM - 11/24/20
I remain optimistic however all of the announcements for next gen upgrades today all mention how they include dual sense features... im guessing when games get upgraded you wont be able to use DS4 on PS4 games anymore :( I'm looking at you D2
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: sheryip on 09:25 PM - 11/24/20
I remain optimistic however all of the announcements for next gen upgrades today all mention how they include dual sense features... im guessing when games get upgraded you wont be able to use DS4 on PS4 games anymore :( I'm looking at you D2
You will just have to use the ps4 version. 
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: antithesis on 05:39 AM - 11/26/20
PS5 games are playable over PS Remote Play using a DS4 with a XIM APEX on PC and Mac. PS4 also has a PS5 Remote Play app, but I don't think anyone has tested it yet.

No-one knows how long DualSense controller support will take, nor if it'll work at all with a XIM.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: etrigan on 08:29 AM - 11/26/20
Assuming Sony doesn't force developers:

I have to wonder if online shooters will support DS4 for a while, with lots of people invested in Scuf's etc.

I would expect the fighter games will continue to support DS4 for a long time due to fight sticks.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Sorothos on 08:35 AM - 11/26/20
There will always be input lag, or more correctly in the case of PS Remote Play, network lag + input lag.

Remote Play is essentially a video feed from the console to the Remote Play app. How it performs depends on Remote Play settings, video bandwidth, video encoding / decoding, local network traffic, wireless interference etc. Ethernet is the fastest and most reliable network infrastructure, but there will still be lag in the video feed, probably in the vicinity of 100+ms.

The remote server "Stadia feature" of DualSense isn't as miraculous as it appears. All it does is remove one link in the chain by bypassing the computer (or console in PS5 Remote Play on PS4) to ping your local router directly from the controller. This will likely save only a few ms or so in each direction, which is almost no saving at all. All of the bigger lag inducers are still upstream on the local or wide area network.

Try the PS Remote Play app - it'll probably feel ok for single-player, but you should notice some lag for online multiplayer. It'll be better than not playing PS5 games at all, but installing the PS4 game version on PS5 will be less laggy than Remote Play. DualSense controllers don't (yet) work with XIM APEX, but I doubt Remote Play is significantly less laggy given the roundtrip saving is at the first and fastest link in the chain.

Let us know how you get on with the Remote Play test :)

My answer is in it's own thread (if someone wondering):
https://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=90543.msg827605#msg827605


Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Chr0nicle on 01:47 AM - 11/27/20
PS5 games are playable over PS Remote Play using a DS4 with a XIM APEX on PC and Mac. PS4 also has a PS5 Remote Play app, but I don't think anyone has tested it yet.

No-one knows how long DualSense controller support will take, nor if it'll work at all with a XIM.
Im playing on ps5 via ps4 with xim, works great, no any lag
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: antithesis on 02:11 AM - 11/27/20
Im playing on ps5 via ps4 with xim, works great, no any lag
Thanks for testing the PS5 Remote Play app on PS4 Chr0nicle. Glad to hear the lag isn't noticeable  :)
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: nsignific on 02:50 AM - 11/27/20
This is not ideal, I hope this doesn't become the officially supported way to use XIM on PS5.
Even if I have to buy a new device, I'd rather do that.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: HoltKezed on 03:19 PM - 11/29/20
Sooo,

Did I get this right?

This infamous input lag is because the remote play actually streams the game over the internet and back... and it doesn't support streaming directly from the PS5 to the PC or PS4 through my very own gigabit infrastructure home network, is that correct?

Because that would be sad, what if someone is using the living room 2K TV and I just want to play with remote play on my PC at 1080p?

I still have to burn internet bandwidth while everything could be transmitted faster through the house router?

Wow.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: antithesis on 03:36 PM - 11/29/20
Did I get this right?

This infamous input lag is because the remote play actually streams the game over the internet and back... and it doesn't support streaming directly from the PS5 to the PC or PS4 through my very own gigabit infrastructure home network, is that correct?
No, you've got it wrong.

PS Remote Play can be configured via local area network (between PS5 and PC at home), or via wide area network (over the internet from e.g home to work).

Network & input lag will be significantly lower on a LAN than a WAN, but there will still be some lag because you're essentially playing a streaming video with Remote Play. You may not notice it for single-player, but it should be somewhat noticeable for multiplayer games.

This is not ideal, I hope this doesn't become the officially supported way to use XIM on PS5.
Even if I have to buy a new device, I'd rather do that.
XIM will likely not claim PS5 support at all if the DualSense can't be reverse-engineered. XIM APEX & 4 work for PS4 games direct and PS Remote Play for PS5 games, but they'll likely be unsupported, similar to PC.

There is no new XIM mouse & keyboard under development. The issue isn't the XIM, it's the DualSense's communication with the PS5 that is the problem. A new XIM m/kb adapter won't make any difference.

The device you may need to buy for official XIM support would be an Xbox Series X/S console. Early days yet and some progress is being made (e.g. DualSense passthrough on Titan Two), but don't hold your breath for PS5 support as it may not happen for months, if at all, depending on the DualSense.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: sontawila on 09:26 AM - 11/30/20
Hey guys,

I own a XIM4 and I thought it would be better to post my question here.

I've updated my XIM4 to the latest firmware and tried to use it on the PS5 to play the PS4 ver of CoD Cold war. However, both Keyboard and mouse didn't work. I can see that both are connected and functional in the ios Xim manager but I both are not working on the PS5  (playing PS4 games).

I've used the same setup on my PS4 pro and they are working fine.

I keep reading that you can actually use the Xim Apex on PS5 playing PS4; is that same case for Xim4? If so, what do  i need to do to make it work?

Thanks a lot.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: HoltKezed on 10:45 AM - 11/30/20
I was angry and sleep deprived when I posted this, so I'm prefacing it and quoting it "out", so please disregard basically all I said in this quote:
Quote from: HoltKezed
I just tried both PS5 Demon Souls and Bloodborne with PS5's remote play, who said it was barely noticeable???
It is just terrible, the streamed PS5 screen is very low fps, actually made me sick and I don't suffer from tunnel vision, motion sickness or whatever you call it. Also, the input lag is bad enough to screw with parry timings in Bloodborne and Demon Souls.
Remote play is a total sham and should be treated as such. It is really bad in single player, I cannot even imagine how bad it is in multiplayer.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Maxxgold on 01:06 PM - 11/30/20
I just tried both PS5 Demon Souls and Bloodborne with PS5's remote play, who said it was barely noticeable???

It is just terrible, the streamed PS5 screen is very low fps, actually made me sick and I don't suffer from tunnel vision, motion sickness or whatever you call it.

Also, the input lag is bad enough to screw with parry timings in Bloodborne and Demon Souls,

Remote play is a total sham and should be treated as such.

It is really bad in single player, I cannot even imagine how bad it is in multiplayer.



If your home network is subpar, then your experience will be subpar. Itís very playable for single player games, but I wouldnít play multiplayer with remote play.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ThisGuy on 01:10 PM - 11/30/20
I just tried both PS5 Demon Souls and Bloodborne with PS5's remote play, who said it was barely noticeable???

It is just terrible, the streamed PS5 screen is very low fps, actually made me sick and I don't suffer from tunnel vision, motion sickness or whatever you call it.

Also, the input lag is bad enough to screw with parry timings in Bloodborne and Demon Souls,

Remote play is a total sham and should be treated as such.

It is really bad in single player, I cannot even imagine how bad it is in multiplayer.

Which is why it has been recommended to use the original input screen from your system. This is only a bypass method to use your xim with ps5 games. I use it and it works great, I even leave my remote play screen minimized on my pc that way I donít have to see it. Playing on a 4K 120hz tv with Cold War and remote play is only used to run the peripherals. If you choose to stare at a remote play screen you will feel some stutter and lag. If you just look at you original input source screen you honestly donít notice any input lag unless your internet is struggling.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: sontawila on 03:45 PM - 11/30/20
Hey guys,

I own a XIM4 and I thought it would be better to post my question here.

I've updated my XIM4 to the latest firmware and tried to use it on the PS5 to play the PS4 ver of CoD Cold war. However, both Keyboard and mouse didn't work. I can see that both are connected and functional in the ios Xim manager but I both are not working on the PS5  (playing PS4 games).

I've used the same setup on my PS4 pro and they are working fine.

I keep reading that you can actually use the Xim Apex on PS5 playing PS4; is that same case for Xim4? If so, what do  i need to do to make it work?

Thanks a lot.

Forgot to mention I am using my the DS4 pad with the light on top of the touchpad.

Any help would be really appreciated.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: antithesis on 03:47 PM - 11/30/20
You may need to set the PS5 console to "Use USB communication".

I don't know if Cold War defaults to controller or m/kb, so it's also worth checking that controller is selected in the game's settings.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: HoltKezed on 04:51 PM - 11/30/20
It is just terrible, the streamed PS5 screen is very low fps, actually made me sick and I don't suffer from tunnel vision, motion sickness or whatever you call it.
Remote play is a total sham and should be treated as such.

If your home network is subpar, then your experience will be subpar. Itís very playable for single player games, but I wouldnít play multiplayer with remote play.

Hey Maxxgold, you are correct.
I was angry and sleep deprived when I posted that, I'll edit it out.
The thing is I cannot use controllers because I don't have my right hand, without Xim support and with what perceived as an intolerable input lag and something off with the image made me angry thinking my PS5 was the most expensive paperweight I had ever bought.

Anyway. I'll do some additional testing, because I felt many things were strange or simply wrong when I first used Remote Play.

Some relevant info below:
 
My setup was using remote play with my PS4, 540p resolution, home network connection. My network is all gigabit (yes, including routers and switches) so no problem there. I confirmed in the connection logs it was using my home network. Also, unfortunately I cannot even try the Xim Link because I could not find any of those compatible transfer cables for sale in my country. Tough luck.

I was indeed seeing the PS5 screen, I have a HDMI switch that was there with the PS4 all the time (so it's not the problem), I only added the PS5 and now I can switch between the PS4 and PS5.

So you see, I don't know why the screen was feeling weird to me and why I got dizzy...
Now I believe it's how the camera follows you around in Demon Souls and the analog sensitivity seems to have changed in Bloodborne installed in the PS5 or changed somehow through the remote play app, moving the camera faster then I was used to, maybe that was it.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: sontawila on 11:27 AM - 12/01/20
You may need to set the PS5 console to "Use USB communication".

I don't know if Cold War defaults to controller or m/kb, so it's also worth checking that controller is selected in the game's settings.

That did the trick. Thanks a lot!
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: exotic on 04:16 AM - 12/02/20
As you may know PS5 version of Warzone is rumoured to be right behind the corner. Since Warzone is still ps4 version when playing with PS5, xim apex works lile mentioned earlier.

Does anybody have an idea how to keep Xim Apex working after the update? I wonder if its mandatory (have not bought Cod), or can you keep ps4 version? Playing with xim is the only option for me, however would like to use ps5 due to better frame rate.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: nsignific on 07:59 AM - 12/02/20
You'll be able to play the PS4 version still, I believe, with XIM.
You won't be able to play the PS5 with XIM at all, however.
So no framerate for you.

Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: chewz on 09:14 AM - 12/02/20
It's so creepy the amount of - who have to use a xim when the game supports native keyboard and mouse? What exactly is the issue.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Maxxgold on 09:17 AM - 12/02/20
It's so creepy the amount of retards who have to use a xim when the game supports native keyboard and mouse? What exactly is the issue.

Let me know when I can use a Sony Navigation Controller with a mouse, and Iíll gladly use the native support. You do realize that a lot of handicapped people use the XIM as well, right?

Calling people names, just makes you look bad, just an FYI.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: exotic on 01:16 PM - 12/02/20
It's so creepy the amount of - who have to use a xim when the game supports native keyboard and mouse? What exactly is the issue.

Wth, i have missed something. Where has this been confirmed?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: mindworm22 on 10:29 PM - 12/02/20
Iím just going to use my old YOBO adapter. 

=)

Shout out to all my Xim 1 peeps!!!!  Where are Toys, Donskii, Roads, and the rest of the crew anyway?...

(Yes, I feel sooooo old)
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: IceCold1887 on 11:28 PM - 12/02/20
Fight sticks are compatible with ps5.  Is the Ximís capable of using a fight stick as the source (instead of DS4) for PS5 games? 
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: aneas on 02:32 AM - 12/04/20
I guess means Xim Apex is dead for PS5. :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: noregretd on 10:58 AM - 12/05/20
This is precisely why I bought PS 4 one year after launch (Waited for XIM 4 to be released). If the device like XIM did not exist, I would go back to PC gaming.This is the same reason I did not pre-order PS 5 or XBSX. I wanted to see if XIM would work with them. The last time I played FPS game on a console was Medal of Honor on PS2. Playing FPS games on a controller is like playing a racing, flight sim or a Mortal Kombat on a mouse and keyboard.
I want to deeply thank XIM developers and the awesome community. If it was not for XIM, I would not have bought any of these consoles. Once I am able to buy XBSX, I will sell my PS4 Pro with SSD and be done with Sony. I also value my privacy and vote with my wallet. Having Sony change their Terms of Service to sell user info to third parties and having a built-in mic on a controller is unacceptable. I don't need another spy device in my house.
I forgot to add, makers of XIM do not owe their customers anything. They never advertised or promised that their products will work with a PS 5. On the other hand - Sony could have made DS 4 compatible with a PS 5, but they did not. I suppose they want to sell new controllers as well as having their player base being able to record and snitch on one another, hence the built-in microphones in the new controller. (For the sake of on-line "safety") lol. On top of that , Sony will have much more data on it's customers to sell to 3rd party companies.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: STAO on 04:41 PM - 12/05/20
This is precisely why I bought PS 4 one year after launch (Waited for XIM 4 to be released). If the device like XIM did not exist, I would go back to PC gaming.This is the same reason I did not pre-order PS 5 or XBSX. I wanted to see if XIM would work with them. The last time I played FPS game on a console was Medal of Honor on PS2. Playing FPS games on a controller is like playing a racing, flight sim or a Mortal Kombat on a mouse and keyboard.
I want to deeply thank XIM developers and the awesome community. If it was not for XIM, I would not have bought any of these consoles. Once I am able to buy XBSX, I will sell my PS4 Pro with SSD and be done with Sony. I also value my privacy and vote with my wallet. Having Sony change their Terms of Service to sell user info to third parties and having a built-in mic on a controller is unacceptable. I don't need another spy device in my house.
I forgot to add, makers of XIM do not owe their customers anything. They never advertised or promised that their products will work with a PS 5. On the other hand - Sony could have made DS 4 compatible with a PS 5, but they did not. I suppose they want to sell new controllers as well as having their player base being able to record and snitch on one another, hence the built-in microphones in the new controller. (For the sake of on-line "safety") lol. On top of that , Sony will have much more data on it's customers to sell to 3rd party companies.

Well said.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: AMG on 04:49 PM - 12/05/20
Wise and thoughtful decision noregretd.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: facade on 06:46 PM - 12/06/20
. Sony could have made DS 4 compatible with a PS 5, but they did not

They are really trying to push "haptics".

Honestly i disable it because it's annoying as hell.

As for waiting a year, I'm just  hoping the same thing that happened with PS4 occurs where i was about to use the Cronus to use my XIM on the PS4.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: DrBlume on 02:54 AM - 12/07/20
This is precisely why I bought PS 4 one year after launch (Waited for XIM 4 to be released). If the device like XIM did not exist, I would go back to PC gaming.This is the same reason I did not pre-order PS 5 or XBSX. I wanted to see if XIM would work with them. The last time I played FPS game on a console was Medal of Honor on PS2. Playing FPS games on a controller is like playing a racing, flight sim or a Mortal Kombat on a mouse and keyboard.
I want to deeply thank XIM developers and the awesome community. If it was not for XIM, I would not have bought any of these consoles. Once I am able to buy XBSX, I will sell my PS4 Pro with SSD and be done with Sony. I also value my privacy and vote with my wallet. Having Sony change their Terms of Service to sell user info to third parties and having a built-in mic on a controller is unacceptable. I don't need another spy device in my house.
I forgot to add, makers of XIM do not owe their customers anything. They never advertised or promised that their products will work with a PS 5. On the other hand - Sony could have made DS 4 compatible with a PS 5, but they did not. I suppose they want to sell new controllers as well as having their player base being able to record and snitch on one another, hence the built-in microphones in the new controller. (For the sake of on-line "safety") lol. On top of that , Sony will have much more data on it's customers to sell to 3rd party companies.

Wahre Worte Bro! Ich bin seit 12 Jahren auf Playstation unterwegs mit XIM 4 und Apex.
Werde auch zur XBSX wechseln sobald die Konsole wieder verfŁgbar ist un die PS4 Pro dann verkaufen.

Can i use the original XBSX Controller on XIM?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Sorothos on 09:40 AM - 12/07/20
It's not always easy to say switch the console from Playstation to Xbox when all the players and friends are still on the Playstation.

What's the point if I have a working XIM on the Xbox (which may be possible in a few months on the PS5), but then I have no one to play with?

So it's not so easy to advise everyone to switch from Playstation to Xbox. We should just hope that the PS5 games will soon be compatible with the XIM.


Im playing on ps5 via ps4 with xim, works great, no any lag
Thanks for testing the PS5 Remote Play app on PS4 Chr0nicle. Glad to hear the lag isn't noticeable  :)

It is noticeable. Call of Duty is unplayable with Remote Play. You hit nothing.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Hellbound on 10:17 AM - 12/07/20
I was fortunate in being able to purchase both consoles.. If for some reason they can't get xim working on PS5, I'm prepared to make the switch from PS5 to XSX for Xim.
I mainly play on pc, but I do have friends and family who play only on console..
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: noregretd on 01:41 PM - 12/07/20
Thank you for your replies. As far as I know , you have to use old Xbox One controller for XIM 4 and you can use new controller with beta firmware on Xim Apex.

Sony became complacent and  lazy - 32Gbps HDMI 2.1 implementation (4:2:2 @120Hz), no VRR, No Dolby Vision, DS 4 is not compatible with PS5, can't use USB drive to save game saves.

I am surprised that European counties do not sue Sony yet for their changes to Terms of Service and their "snitch" record feature. Some people bring an argument that if you have a smartphone, then it's ok to have another spy device. First of all, you can have apps on the phone to block stuff and you have to have a phone. You do not need to have a console. Also, you can't have apps on a console to block things. In addition, Google is free, so it makes sense that they collect data. We pay for Sony console, PSN, games, movies, etc. They should not collect any data on us and sell it to 3rd parties.  Do you really want a built-in mic in your controller? I surely do not.

Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: AMG on 04:29 PM - 12/07/20
... Google is free, so it makes sense that they collect data. We pay for Sony console, PSN, games, movies, etc. They should not collect any data on us and sell it to 3rd parties.  Do you really want a built-in mic in your controller? I surely do not.
Exactly that's a very shady tactic, they excuse themselves arguing that all is for protection due online bullying and walnot.

That's true, next step measures are needed.  I get hate mail very often, I',m cool with that is funny for me actually make some people so mad, that they took all the effort to let me know, like I care while I'm not being a troll, just playing games. However, some are very toxic sick people. As a father annoys me my children has to deal with it, but I'm not worry is part of this world they have to face it one way or another I prefer on a console than other way. But know I'm a minority and most people need to feel safe or nursed, and makes me mad they abuse of this fear.

Sony became complacent and  lazy - 32Gbps HDMI 2.1 implementation (4:2:2 @120Hz), no VRR, No Dolby Vision, DS 4 is not compatible with PS5, can't use USB drive to save game saves.
Not defending Sony, but honestly I never bought that new consoles (RDNA 1.5 - 2) will be able to run 4K 4-4-4 120Hz, even big boy gaming PC struggle with it. Heck!, G-sync which is the more mature variable and reliable refresh rate technology (specially if uses hardware module) caps at 120Hz, open VRR is way to green for it and to please a wide spectrum on a software fundation. Dolby Vision is also yet very novell thing with a lot of opportunities to improve.

Timing for all these technologies was wrong and rushed. When previous generation jump to 1080p DTS Dolby Digital was very mature and settled on mass electronics for at least 2 years in all markets, 4K is still in to adoption specially on 3rd world countries, where we don't have the need to move to that due our internet and cable services are struggling with it.

Anyways.

I personally love DualSense haptic experience is a very great kinesthetic improvement, I can see how dev can take advantage of if to offer a new world of experiences for deaf people. But if they are going to block third party support that's a very high price to pay and if they will it should guarantee options for everyone, not only full M/KB support also custom adaptative controllers just like microsoft attempted.

Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Maxxgold on 08:15 AM - 12/08/20
Just in case anyone missed it, Console Tuners Titan Two allows you to use the XIM on PS5. There is a timeout every 7 minutes, which automatically resets, but, there are specialized controllers you can plug in, and you donít have to worry about the timeout. J2Kbr said they are compiling a list of working controllers now, and will release the list soon.


https://www.consoletuner.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=16773
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ioop16 on 08:18 AM - 12/08/20
i dont know this ? what is titan ?  it's an other device like XIM ?

so why u  said now it works with XIM on PS5 ??
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: facade on 10:06 AM - 12/08/20
Just in case anyone missed it, Console Tuners Titan Two allows you to use the XIM on PS5. There is a timeout every 7 minutes, which automatically resets, but, there are specialized controllers you can plug in, and you donít have to worry about the timeout. J2Kbr said they are compiling a list of working controllers now, and will release the list soon.


https://www.consoletuner.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=16773


This is exactly how the process started for XIM last generation too. You could use a cronus to get your XIM to work with the PS4 before they finally got the XIM to work with the PS4 itself.

Glad to see it's moving along. If anything it shows it should be possible.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: facade on 10:12 AM - 12/08/20



I am surprised that European counties do not sue Sony yet for their changes to Terms of Service and their "snitch" record feature.


That entry has been in it's ToS since 2013

https://www.techtimes.com/articles/1376/20131112/sony-reserves-right-to-record-ps4-users-voice-chats-or-text-messages-over-psn.htm
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: The Pfhor on 08:56 PM - 12/08/20
Some more info on DS5 authenticaiton protocol etc - https://github.com/matlo/GIMX/issues/672

I am no expert but the authentication seems like the roadblock that we are facing. Hopefully OBsIV and J2 can figure it out. I imagine they have some kind of USB sniffer that can be used to demystify the protocol.

Hmmm interesting. When the ps4 was released, did the dualshock 4 also have some sort of encrypted authentication that was problematic for the adapter?
I haven't been following XIM since then but I have read that it took over a month to get it working. Not sure if my info is true.

Wasnít this the issue when PS4 came out as well? Thatís what I am remembering anyway lol. Itís been a while since I got on here.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: HocusPenus on 09:46 PM - 12/08/20
Just in case anyone missed it, Console Tuners Titan Two allows you to use the XIM on PS5. There is a timeout every 7 minutes, which automatically resets, but, there are specialized controllers you can plug in, and you donít have to worry about the timeout. J2Kbr said they are compiling a list of working controllers now, and will release the list soon.


https://www.consoletuner.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=16773


So the xim will work smoothly with the ps5 if we use the titan two adapter with one of these controllers they put on the list? Thats good news!
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: nsignific on 01:56 AM - 12/09/20
Unless those "specialized controllers" turn out to be Wheels or even worse, HOTAS, this would at least be a workable solution.

I wouldn't use it, though, I'd probably just continue playing on XSX.
I want it to be simple.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Maxxgold on 07:50 AM - 12/09/20
Unless those "specialized controllers" turn out to be Wheels or even worse, HOTAS, this would at least be a workable solution.

I wouldn't use it, though, I'd probably just continue playing on XSX.
I want it to be simple.

Iím guessing they will be Sony branded specialtyís controllers, like the ones you have suggested. I think at this point itís safe to say this will get resolved at some point. This will just be a temporary solution. To be honest, Iím fine with playing the PS4 versions until itís all worked out. I was looking to purchase a Series X because of the issues with the PS5, but now Iím pretty confident I can wait it out. We are seeing good progress!


So the xim will work smoothly with the ps5 if we use the titan two adapter with one of these controllers they put on the list? Thats good news!

Yep, it does. It will be interesting to see which controllers make the list.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Sorothos on 07:55 AM - 12/09/20
Iím guessing they will be Sony branded specialtyís controllers, like the ones you have suggested. I think at this point itís safe to say this will get resolved at some point. This will just be a temporary solution. To be honest, Iím fine with playing the PS4 versions until itís all worked out. I was looking to purchase a Series X because of the issues with the PS5, but now Iím pretty confident I can wait it out. We are seeing good progress!


i agree with you, i also have time to wait, as i have been a typical playstation gamer since the PS1, i always liked the brand and console more and more, so i don't change my console choice right away because of a simple hardware item like the XIM working with XBOX earlier.

I'm also totally fine with continuing to play the PS4 versions for now. I play mostly BOCW with my clan anyway.

But by November 2021 at the latest I need a working version of the XIM - because the new Call of Duty will only be released as a PS5 version.

Therefore I can wait for now, but of course I hope that there will be a solution for PS5 soon.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: LoGi on 08:05 AM - 12/09/20
Sounds good maybe,  i have titan 2 .let's see

Edit: ah, but only with xim apex, i have just a xim4. :-\
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ioop16 on 08:37 AM - 12/09/20
i dont understand we need an additionnal device to use our xim apex ? need to use titan 2 + xim apex ? i dont understand what is titan 2

but titan 2 or xim apex it's the same ? its a hub ?? we need to plug 2 hub .... ?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: facade on 08:48 AM - 12/09/20
Titan 2 is another adapter that's meant to do the same thing XIM does as well as support macros.

https://www.amazon.com/Programmable-Remapping-Crossover-Converter-PlayStation-4/dp/B07SXBW6XC/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=titan+2&qid=1607525087&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&smid=AL33YRD7161LQ&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyNVpHME1IUU9NNVlFJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwOTI4MzMyTUVNMkU1OTQ1MFc3JmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAwMDQ3OTkyOTlMOE1EN043N1QyJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ== (https://www.amazon.com/Programmable-Remapping-Crossover-Converter-PlayStation-4/dp/B07SXBW6XC/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=titan+2&qid=1607525087&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&smid=AL33YRD7161LQ&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyNVpHME1IUU9NNVlFJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwOTI4MzMyTUVNMkU1OTQ1MFc3JmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAwMDQ3OTkyOTlMOE1EN043N1QyJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==)

you plug the T2 into the console and then the XIM into the T2

Not sure I'd spend $100 just to get to use my XIM on PS5 a little earlier (for PS4 before the XIM was usable on it you could plug the XIM into the Cronus Max to have it work, and a bit after this was found XIM received full functionality w/PS4). But if you already have one you can use it to use your XIM on PS5 games now.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ioop16 on 08:56 AM - 12/09/20
i will wait ... how long u needed to wait for ps4 ??
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: sheryip on 10:45 AM - 12/09/20
a new firmware came out for the ps5 system and a firmware for the controller
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Boudelair on 02:52 PM - 12/12/20
Really hoping for PS5 mnk support, have been with Xim for 10 years no issues. Letís just be patient if thereís a way they will find it.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ioop16 on 06:11 AM - 12/21/20
no news from the team ????

titan 2 its ok but not xim apex ????

actually, do u work on the compatibility with ps5 or not and we wait for nothing ? need to comunicate i think ... we know nothing on the situation ...

maybe you work on a new device ? (so we need to pay again)

thanks
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Od1n on 06:26 AM - 12/21/20
no news from the team ????

titan 2 its ok but not xim apex ????

actually, do u work on the compatibility with ps5 or not and we wait for nothing ? need to comunicate i think ... we know nothing on the situation ...

maybe you work on a new device ? (so we need to pay again)

thanks


The update is available for quite some days already
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ragenrok on 04:25 PM - 12/21/20
no news from the team ????

titan 2 its ok but not xim apex ????

actually, do u work on the compatibility with ps5 or not and we wait for nothing ? need to comunicate i think ... we know nothing on the situation ...

maybe you work on a new device ? (so we need to pay again)

thanks

They posted a new firmware days ago, before insulting the dev's please make sure you research info.
https://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=91158.0
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ioop16 on 06:19 AM - 12/22/20
i know ... i talk about plug Dualsense controller ... i have a ps5, how can  i plug a DS4 ... i dont have DS4 ... or 3rd party controller  ...

it will be possible in the future to use xim apex with dualsense ????
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ragenrok on 02:14 PM - 12/22/20
i know ... i talk about plug Dualsense controller ... i have a ps5, how can  i plug a DS4 ... i dont have DS4 ... or 3rd party controller  ...

it will be possible in the future to use xim apex with dualsense ????

Hopefully, the issue is they need to figure out the encryption involved with it and get it working. I think when the PS4 came out it took them a few months to get the ps4 controller working as well so you just need to be patient
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ioop16 on 02:48 PM - 12/23/20
ok we will wait few months and follow update :) thanks
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ramdi on 07:43 AM - 09/14/21
No news?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: iTz-TeaBagger on 11:44 AM - 10/06/21
Can we please find out a way to use xim on PS5 games? I'm literally considering buying an XBOX at this point.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: facade on 08:12 PM - 10/06/21
Can we please find out a way to use xim on PS5 games? I'm literally considering buying an XBOX at this point.

Remote play or the third party controller work around for games that don't force dualsense


Other than that nothing you can do until one of the new hardware devices are tested.

https://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=96393.0
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Crazyboy123 on 07:16 AM - 10/07/21
Can we please find out a way to use xim on PS5 games? I'm literally considering buying an XBOX at this point.

Remote play or the third party controller work around for games that don't force dualsense


Other than that nothing you can do until one of the new hardware devices are tested.

https://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=96393.0

What are the new Devices and when are yíall gonna test them out? And btw a new ps5 update dropped today
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ragenrok on 07:18 AM - 10/07/21
Can we please find out a way to use xim on PS5 games? I'm literally considering buying an XBOX at this point.

Remote play or the third party controller work around for games that don't force dualsense


Other than that nothing you can do until one of the new hardware devices are tested.

https://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=96393.0

What are the new Devices and when are yíall gonna test them out? And btw a new ps5 update dropped today

All the info we have is in the link he posted, all we can do is stay patient and wait as the encryption on these new controllers is alot tougher than previous generations.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: bluenose72 on 02:04 PM - 10/11/21
Would I be right in assuming that the release of 3rd party ps5 controllers will be the only way around this?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: OBsIV on 07:01 PM - 10/11/21
What are the new Devices and when are yíall gonna test them out? And btw a new ps5 update dropped today

It's a USB adapter where you'd plug it into the PS5 and then a XIM, Titan, etc. into it. They claim it enables all games on PS5. They said the would be sending us a sample in a couple weeks.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ges_y on 09:06 AM - 10/12/21
Hi OBsIV
Just to confirm that the xim apex competitor : Reasnow S1 has managed to add PS5 support officially  for daulsence and PS5 games version . So , it's going to be any good news for the future ?
 
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ThisGuy on 09:20 AM - 10/12/21
Hi OBsIV
Just to confirm that the xim apex competitor : Reasnow S1 has managed to add PS5 support officially  for daulsence and PS5 games version . So , it's going to be any good news for the future ?

Very interesting news. When did this happen? I checked their forum and no mention of it. It says to use remote play just like every other converter/adapter. So when was this announced?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Boltman on 10:47 AM - 10/12/21
Yea I don't see any news like that on any of the companies websites. Titan, reasnow, cronus etc etc.

That type of news would be huge and circulating all throughout these products websites. I just don't see it.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: OBsIV on 10:50 AM - 10/12/21
Yea I don't see any news like that on any of the companies websites. Titan, reasnow, cronus etc etc.

That type of news would be huge and circulating all throughout these products websites. I just don't see it.

This company only reached out to us so far. When I asked them why, they said that they wanted to work with us first because of our popularity. Also, because we are a reputable company that wouldn't cheat them in some way (which is true). They are concerned about theft so they are getting their initial batch ready first before announce. We will be getting one of these samples.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Boltman on 01:33 PM - 10/12/21
Yea I don't see any news like that on any of the companies websites. Titan, reasnow, cronus etc etc.

That type of news would be huge and circulating all throughout these products websites. I just don't see it.

This company only reached out to us so far. When I asked them why, they said that they wanted to work with us first because of our popularity. Also, because we are a reputable company that wouldn't cheat them in some way (which is true). They are concerned about theft so they are getting their initial batch ready first before announce. We will be getting one of these samples.

That's amazing and a solid choice on their part. Well deserved on your part because it's true. If I were in their shoes I'd have gone with xim as well for those same reasons.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Rain1dog on 01:54 PM - 10/13/21
Yea I don't see any news like that on any of the companies websites. Titan, reasnow, cronus etc etc.

That type of news would be huge and circulating all throughout these products websites. I just don't see it.

This company only reached out to us so far. When I asked them why, they said that they wanted to work with us first because of our popularity. Also, because we are a reputable company that wouldn't cheat them in some way (which is true). They are concerned about theft so they are getting their initial batch ready first before announce. We will be getting one of these samples.

I hope this works out.  Iíve tried to get used to a controller for these games but no matter how much I try I just canít get comfortable using sticks in FPS games.  It worked so dam good for my PS4 pro so I was hoping it would just carry over to the 5.  I understand it will take some time to get things right with new hardware but just hope that it does end up working.

I went from playing multiplayer almost all the time to barely playing much anymore.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: xXLuciferXx on 04:09 PM - 10/13/21
What is the probability that this USb stick will be available for purchase at the launch of BF2042?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: stayla on 09:02 PM - 10/20/21
Next week we get the info will it work or not. 1 week i dont play and surf on internet and forums for solution. Bf2042 with m+kb thats insane when it happen, i cant play with a Controller fps games and pre order the game before beta and than i see the results not working on the ps4 controller only dualsens. I wait until next week than we get the info wait and pray for the resulution. Big thanks Xim team and the admin in this forum to get infos and Updates to the ps5 problem.👍❤
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: antithesis on 09:13 PM - 10/20/21
If given the option, you can download the PS4 copy of the game to PS5 and it'll work with XIM APEX and a DualShock 4 controller. Remote Play will also work for the PS5 version.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Bloodklot on 12:44 AM - 10/22/21
Looks like the thrust master is for sale now. Would acquiring one allow you to figure out the dualsenseís compatibility with xim apex?

https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2021/10/21/22736145/thrustmaster-t248-pc-ps5-racing-wheel-review
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Od1n on 08:13 AM - 10/22/21
Yes it would be helpful to know if the device works in PS5 DualSense only games when connected directly to the console.
Though only order it if you want to keep the controller anyway, or you have a way to return it.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Bloodklot on 12:25 AM - 10/23/21
Oh I donít have the budget to buy that lol.  I just thought a corporation like yours would have the budget to give it a try.  But in other news, it looks like scuff is making a PS5 ďproĒ controller this holiday.  Do you think thatís just a dualsense modded? Or do you think itís actually a 3rd party controller?

https://www.spieltimes.com/news/ps5-pro-controller-coming-this-holiday-season/?amp
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: sizzerb on 02:51 PM - 10/23/21
Has anyone been able to test the Logitech G29?  It should also run on PS5.

https://www.logitechg.com/de-de/products/driving/driving-force-racing-wheel.html
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Od1n on 03:04 PM - 10/23/21
Oh I donít have the budget to buy that lol.  I just thought a corporation like yours would have the budget to give it a try.  But in other news, it looks like scuff is making a PS5 ďproĒ controller this holiday.  Do you think thatís just a dualsense modded? Or do you think itís actually a 3rd party controller?

https://www.spieltimes.com/news/ps5-pro-controller-coming-this-holiday-season/?amp

From the looks it seems like a normal PS5 controller with some attached paddles and switched out sticks. In that case it wouldnt help with the XIM PS5 compatibility.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: sizzerb on 02:10 PM - 10/24/21
Has anyone been able to test the Logitech G29?  It should also run on PS5.

https://www.logitechg.com/de-de/products/driving/driving-force-racing-wheel.html

Borrowed it from my friend, it doesn't work. Tested Rainbow and Fortnite. It's the latest beta on it. Does it have to be added in beta or does it just not work?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Od1n on 03:19 PM - 10/24/21
Has anyone been able to test the Logitech G29?  It should also run on PS5.

https://www.logitechg.com/de-de/products/driving/driving-force-racing-wheel.html

Borrowed it from my friend, it doesn't work. Tested Rainbow and Fortnite. It's the latest beta on it. Does it have to be added in beta or does it just not work?

Did you try it with the Logitech Controller directly connected to the PS5? Directly through the XIM wont directly work without an update. Check if these PS5 games work with the controller plugged into the console :).
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: antithesis on 12:25 AM - 10/25/21
G29 is a specialty PS4 controller and wonít work in DualSense-locked games.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: sizzerb on 11:31 AM - 10/25/21
Has anyone been able to test the Logitech G29?  It should also run on PS5.

https://www.logitechg.com/de-de/products/driving/driving-force-racing-wheel.html

Borrowed it from my friend, it doesn't work. Tested Rainbow and Fortnite. It's the latest beta on it. Does it have to be added in beta or does it just not work?

Did you try it with the Logitech Controller directly connected to the PS5? Directly through the XIM wont directly work without an update. Check if these PS5 games work with the controller plugged into the console :).

Unfortunately it doesn't work either :(


G29 is a specialty PS4 controller and wonít work in DualSense-locked games.


But the G29 is supposed to work on PS5, according to Logitech.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Od1n on 11:37 AM - 10/25/21
But the G29 is supposed to work on PS5, according to Logitech.

Yes but its release date is from 2015, at that time the only solution was the speciality controller approach. And just recently Sony decided to no longer allow speciality controllers for most PS5 games.
Newly released PS5 certified controllers, such as the new Thrustmaster one, could use a different solution that potentially works with the XIM too.

I should have checked the release date of the G29 prior to writing my comments above as that made it pretty clear that its just a speciality controller.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: sizzerb on 12:51 PM - 10/25/21
But the G29 is supposed to work on PS5, according to Logitech.

Yes but its release date is from 2015, at that time the only solution was the speciality controller approach. And just recently Sony decided to no longer allow speciality controllers for most PS5 games.
Newly released PS5 certified controllers, such as the new Thrustmaster one, could use a different solution that potentially works with the XIM too.

I should have checked the release date of the G29 prior to writing my comments above as that made it pretty clear that its just a speciality controller.

Oh okay, has anyone had the chance to test the Thrustmaster?  if it works?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: antithesis on 10:05 PM - 10/25/21
But the G29 is supposed to work on PS5, according to Logitech.
In games that whitelist PS4 specialty controllers, yes G29 works. It's the same workaround that we used for Hori and Nacon controllers for year one PS5 games.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: ThisGuy on 09:04 AM - 11/02/21
Curious if anyone has come across this issue and fixed it. Ps5/remote play with xim and ps5 controller into pc. So I have it hooking up and working perfectly except one little issue. No matter what I do I canít get R2 or left mouse button to work. It will work fine if I use the controller but trying to press the fire button does absolutely nothing. Has anyone run into this and can help me fix it?  I have tried it with a PS4 controller and all works like itís supposed to.

Yes on latest manager and xim firmware no disconnect issues at all
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: xXLuciferXx on 06:18 PM - 11/02/21
The game supports the DS triggers? If so, disable this option
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: facade on 07:18 PM - 11/02/21
Anything ever come of the adapter as of late?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: capt251978 on 10:15 PM - 11/02/21
Anything ever come of the adapter as of late?
Bump
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Bloodklot on 12:49 AM - 11/03/21
If your playing your PS5 via remote play by connecting the xim to your pc, why not just use the DS4 instead of the Dualsense?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: OBsIV on 10:07 AM - 11/03/21
Anything ever come of the adapter as of late?
Bump

We are supposed to receive it today. If so, we will need to do some evaluation of it first.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Swaim on 10:20 AM - 11/03/21
Anything ever come of the adapter as of late?
Bump

We are supposed to receive it today. If so, we will need to do some evaluation of it first.

Will it be some input dalay with this device?
I'm not sure how much but i think 20-30ms average anyway. so on good tv it will be 15-20ms tv 1-9 ms Xim and 15-20 new device
in total it will be near 50ms
is 50ms good or in shooter it will be a disaster?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: OBsIV on 10:31 AM - 11/03/21
I asked them to include the ability to measure latency statistics, but, I don't think they added that.
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: XIBangBang on 11:22 AM - 11/03/21
Anything ever come of the adapter as of late?
Bump

We are supposed to receive it today. If so, we will need to do some evaluation of it first.

Super Pumped about this! I purchased a series s and 12 months of live; and am about to sign up for the 2 year credit deal for the series x w/game pass combo, and return the s, all so I can play battlefield. None of this would be necessary if ps5 works out 🙏
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: facade on 02:59 PM - 11/03/21
Anything ever come of the adapter as of late?
Bump

We are supposed to receive it today. If so, we will need to do some evaluation of it first.

Definitely understand.  Last i remembered was you saying you should have recieved it already so wasn't sure if you even tried it yet or still waiting
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: 420Daddy on 11:49 PM - 11/03/21
I asked them to include the ability to measure latency statistics, but, I don't think they added that.

Please give Feedback as soon as Possible
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Ronso86 on 12:07 PM - 11/05/21
Anything ever come of the adapter as of late?
Bump

We are supposed to receive it today. If so, we will need to do some evaluation of it first.

Did you receive it?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: 420Daddy on 12:48 PM - 11/05/21
Anything ever come of the adapter as of late?
Bump


Yes readed about it looks like its something that you connect wia bluetooth or ethernet. Forget this. Better sell ps5 and get xbox

We are supposed to receive it today. If so, we will need to do some evaluation of it first.

Did you receive it?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: bssam112 on 09:48 PM - 11/05/21
Should I sell my PS5 for Xbox ?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Ychyno on 09:16 AM - 11/08/21
Hopefully we get some sort of update soon :/
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: facade on 04:18 PM - 11/08/21
Should I sell my PS5 for Xbox ?

Wouldn't go that far, but honestly not sure where you would find one either way
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Bloodklot on 09:40 AM - 11/28/21
Anything ever come of the adapter as of late?
Bump

We are supposed to receive it today. If so, we will need to do some evaluation of it first.

Also curious if you have any news?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Boltman on 11:20 AM - 11/28/21
News on what exactly?

Beloader option or Proper Remote Play?
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: Bloodklot on 12:17 AM - 11/29/21
I may be wrong but I think Obsiv or someone else was going to acquire and test the Thrustmaster steering wheel with the xim apex because it was advertised to work with. both PS5 and PS4
Title: Re: Ps5 & xim apex compatibility
Post by: antithesis on 05:50 AM - 11/29/21
It's almost guaranteed that it registers itself as a G29, which is a specialty PS4 controller that should work in PS5 racing games, but not DualSense-locked games.