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Title: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: Prod1337 on 09:16 AM - 11/23/19
Was just curious if anyone had made the switch and what are your thoughts between the two? I just got the G Pro a week ago, and Iím still in the period where I can exchange if need be.
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: hey zim on 10:19 PM - 12/04/19
iíve had my g pro for a minute now. tried and true and always wins. razer is junk imo. plus the g pro lasts forever and the sensor is spot on.
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: Obie_1_Kenobi on 05:54 AM - 12/05/19
Was just curious if anyone had made the switch and what are your thoughts between the two? I just got the G Pro a week ago, and Iím still in the period where I can exchange if need be.

I have had logitech and Razer for many years. Went from a G502 Hero to a Razer basilisk Ultimate Wireless. Best mouse on the market! Newer than Viper. Gpro is a great mouse as well. But do your research. Basilisk is 20k dpi if you like to play at high Dpi. The higher the better for me. Make some adjustments and fine tune done. I would say just keep the Gpro.
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: year0 on 03:02 AM - 01/07/20
Was just curious if anyone had made the switch and what are your thoughts between the two? I just got the G Pro a week ago, and Iím still in the period where I can exchange if need be.

I have had logitech and Razer for many years. Went from a G502 Hero to a Razer basilisk Ultimate Wireless. Best mouse on the market! Newer than Viper. Gpro is a great mouse as well. But do your research. Basilisk is 20k dpi if you like to play at high Dpi. The higher the better for me. Make some adjustments and fine tune done. I would say just keep the Gpro.

I was looking forward to hearing about this mouse, is it the same as the normal basilisk (except for sensor)? I loved that scroll wheel & that changeable lever button
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: x Mayze x on 07:47 AM - 01/07/20
Most of the top mouse tech reviews are placing the Viper Ultimate higher than the G-pro wireless. I went with the Viper U and I'm more than happy with it. The performance for both are incredible. It really comes down to the shape and feel for you.

Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: MeteoroBR on 11:58 AM - 01/07/20
Was just curious if anyone had made the switch and what are your thoughts between the two? I just got the G Pro a week ago, and Iím still in the period where I can exchange if need be.

I bought both. And I think I like Viper better.
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: BUNGEE on 08:55 AM - 01/08/20
I got them both too... Upgraded from a g903 and couldn't choose between the two.
Viper has the better mouse feet and sensor and I'm faster and more accurate with it than the g pro wireless. I do like the shape of g pro better because I use palm grip, plus build quality seems better to me.

My right mouse button of the viper ultimate is a bit more loose than lmb. Not what I expected from a 160 euro mouse.

Viper is still my main though because of accuracy and speed. Better results in cod.
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: jd1boo on 08:29 PM - 01/16/20
I am on my third g pro wireless.  Previous 2 eventually developed double left click issue which rendered them unusable.  I would be cautious purchasing the g pro or just expect that you may have to rma it after a few months.
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: Cizque on 06:21 AM - 01/17/20
Im on my first GPW and had it over a year, maybe try not to finger it so hard
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: Lukino on 03:33 PM - 01/17/20
I switched from GPro to viper ultimate. IMO is lot better with better grip and lighter
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: S on 12:50 PM - 01/22/20
Have a Viper, G-Pro, 502 Wireless, Mx518, SS Rival and the Ultralight 2.
The G-Pro sensor is better than the Vipers, no contest. The G-Pro compared to the viper however feels like a brick. It's a weird mixture of shape and build quality. The G pro is much higher and bigger than the Viper, but the quality is also miles above. Whereas the Viper feels like plastic, the G-pro feels sturdy and built like a tank which is positive. Both are really good picks, but if you like lighter and smaller mice go with the viper. If you want quality and something you can feel in your hand go with the G-Pro. Having said that, i'd take the Ultralight 2 over either every single time.
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: Au1d Yin on 06:27 AM - 01/23/20
People keep saying that Logitech is reliable and Razer is junk ...well tell that to my G Pro wireless middle mouse button, and tell it to stop friggin double clicking when it feels like it!

Both my Logitech G pro and Corsair Ironclaw developed faults. The scroll wheel Up/Down on my Ironclaw stopped working and I went back to my G Pro and yep ... it's still double clicking.

I bought a Razer Basilisk Ultimate yesterday after reading good reviews, and also that double clicking shouldn't be a thing with their switches.

This mouse feels GOOD, and the scroll wheel adjustabiliy is neat ... it's early days yet, but if this lasts it will be well worth the high price tag.
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: Antec800 on 07:06 AM - 01/23/20
The new 3399 sensor in the razers is the best sensor out right now, also just purchased a basilisk v2 which has the new 20k sensor what dpi is everyone using. My old basilisk didnít have jitter at 4K dpi but for some reason this new sensor does
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: Relys on 10:39 AM - 01/25/20
I decided to go with the Razer Viper Ultimate as it has a few edges on the G Pro. Great mouse.
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: AMG on 11:40 AM - 01/25/20
I don't have any of those, only G305 I aim better with smaller mice.

But I think both are great, shape and comfort should be the determinant factor.
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: RML on 09:06 PM - 02/03/20
Itís official, Iím hanging up my Gpro and moving forward with the Viper Ultimate.

This is actually a pretty big deal for yours truly. Iíve been a LG advocate since the G9x, itís been nearly a decade since Iíve used any other brand.

Viper is too good.. itís time to Pass the pint.

Cheers
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: Bully on 12:24 PM - 02/04/20
Itís official, Iím hanging up my Gpro and moving forward with the Viper Ultimate.

This is actually a pretty big deal for yours truly. Iíve been a LG advocate since the G9x, itís been nearly a decade since Iíve used any other brand.

Viper is too good.. itís time to Pass the pint.

Cheers

How will you cope with having less buttons, that would be my issue.
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: LukeyOneShot on 12:53 PM - 02/04/20
I have viper ultimate its consistant 1000hz pulling rate this mouse is so accurate its un believable best mouse i have owned
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: RML on 05:14 PM - 02/04/20
Yeah... I think I'm in love!  :-*
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: hey zim on 01:21 PM - 02/05/20
this is my third g pro wireless in less than 6 months. itís trash. iím getting something else this week when i have time. thankfully i got best buys protection plan so i get a new one when it breaks at no cost but tired of it. right click dies within a month of use no joke.
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: Prod1337 on 05:35 PM - 02/05/20
Iíve had the viper ultimate past 2 months, I fall in love with it every time I use it! Well worth the switch, hands down.
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: Gjin Yuko on 11:57 AM - 02/06/20
Was just curious if anyone had made the switch and what are your thoughts between the two? I just got the G Pro a week ago, and Iím still in the period where I can exchange if need be.

Nah forget all those recommendations! Try out the Steelseries Rival 600 and you will be amazed ;D

(from a long time G502 User)

If you want true 1:1 Tracking like youre hand is ur Aim go with the Rival 600.

1:1 Tracking is from 0-3500 DPI tho just a heads up
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: Phil Ashio on 12:22 PM - 02/06/20
The new 3399 sensor in the razers is the best sensor out right now, also just purchased a basilisk v2 which has the new 20k sensor what dpi is everyone using. My old basilisk didnít have jitter at 4K dpi but for some reason this new sensor does

Try putting a piece of tape over your sensor and then shaking the mouse. If you see movement on your screen that means the sensor is loose and you should get it RMAd. Otherwise this shouldn't be happening.

Also, try updating the firmware.
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: RML on 03:35 PM - 02/06/20
Was just curious if anyone had made the switch and what are your thoughts between the two? I just got the G Pro a week ago, and Iím still in the period where I can exchange if need be.

Nah forget all those recommendations! Try out the Steelseries Rival 600 and you will be amazed ;D

(from a long time G502 User)

If you want true 1:1 Tracking like youre hand is ur Aim go with the Rival 600.

1:1 Tracking is from 0-3500 DPI tho just a heads up

I have the Rival 600.

Gpro and Viper both outperform it for several reasons.
Being Lighter and wireless being the top two.

Viper is truly amaze balls though. The shape/Grip and the added Y,X DPI feature takes it to the next level.

Recoil? Lol.. WTH is that! Not an issue you'll ever have when you set you Y DPI higher then your X value. Such a great feature!
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: ozzixdd on 03:46 PM - 02/06/20
viper has a built-in memory?  Doesn't work only with pc software?
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: RML on 05:14 PM - 02/06/20
viper has a built-in memory?  Doesn't work only with pc software?

Stores 5 different dpi settings you can change on the fly
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: funkster on 05:45 PM - 02/06/20
I own the g502, g900 & g903.. all three broke in some way or another after regular use. The viper ultimate......  0 issues so far with similar mileage & surprisingly feels/performs  the best.
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: jd394y on 07:03 PM - 02/06/20
I own both, G PRO wireless + The new wireless Viper Ultimate wireless, Viper beats the G Pro in every single way possible.

- Better grip in the mouse which was huge for me. I found the G Pro after a while w/ hands getting clammy the mouse was a little harder to hold onto. The Viper has AMAZING grip (rubber on its sides) when holding it and never is anything less than perfect.

- Viper weighs less (barely lol)

- in latency testing Viper beat out the G Pro wireless (barely)

- Top sensor on the market

- nicer charging cable + comes with a dock

- Better feet + better wheel

- Optical switches to avoid double clicks

I would say once you change you wont even remember what the G pro wireless even was lol. hope this helps. Go to YouTube, Channel: RocketJumpNinja and watch his comparison on these 2 mice.
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: RML on 08:10 PM - 02/07/20
I just gave my Gpro to my daughter. I wonít be needing it any longer.
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: Phil Ashio on 12:40 PM - 02/08/20
Yeah, usually this long after I've gotten a new mouse the magic has worn off and it's like, "yeah, it does the job." I'm still in love with this mouse. Mixed with the amp300 it's so good I'm playing MW2019 without aim assist. If we could've gotten an updated max ADS ST it would be perfect.
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: dpk_ydv on 11:00 PM - 02/08/20
Yeah, usually this long after I've gotten a new mouse the magic has worn off and it's like, "yeah, it does the job." I'm still in love with this mouse. Mixed with the amp300 it's so good I'm playing MW2019 without aim assist. If we could've gotten an updated max ADS ST it would be perfect.
Have you tried the steelseries Dex? How does it compare to the AMP300? I am thinking about getting the AMP just because the Dex feels too small. I just hope SS releases a larger version of Dex.
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: sncjez on 05:30 AM - 02/09/20


Viper is truly amaze balls though. The shape/Grip and the added Y,X DPI feature takes it to the next level.

Recoil? Lol.. WTH is that! Not an issue you'll ever have when you set you Y DPI higher then your X value. Such a great feature!

This ;)

Recently i have massacred the right click button with heavy grit sand paper due to accidental lazy palm grip clicks coming from pro intellimouse and now i can finally feel free to say i have the perfect lazy palm grip speedster  :)
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: JerremyWillen1 on 06:29 AM - 02/09/20
Had the G502 and Viper U, satisfied with both, but the Viper feels more natural to me.
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: ozzixdd on 07:05 AM - 02/09/20
viper has a built-in memory option?  will you remember the change of colors or the macro on the button?
I have g502 wireless and I think hard about this viper ultimate.
Is it possible to connect the adapter separately under xim and charging from another source?
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: dpk_ydv on 07:47 AM - 02/09/20
Yes, the viper has on board memory and profiles can be changed on the fly without synapse. Also the macros can be stored on board and used without synapse, but the colours and RGB can't be.  But you have to be connected via the bluetooth dongle for the macro to function properly. when I would connect using the provided cable to PS4, the macros were not performing as expected.
And you can connect USB dongle to XIM and charging dock to other source.
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: ozzixdd on 10:46 AM - 02/09/20
But if it connects properly under ps4, will the macro work through xim?
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: dpk_ydv on 12:37 PM - 02/09/20
Yes, the macros work perfectly on XIM. But make sure you are not connecting it wired for the macros to work properly. 
If you are looking for rapid fire,  there is an option to assign 'turbo mode' clicks, you don't even need a macro.
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: ozzixdd on 04:06 PM - 02/09/20
that's exactly what I'm looking for.  I will buy then
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: Prod1337 on 10:01 AM - 02/10/20
Was just curious if anyone had made the switch and what are your thoughts between the two? I just got the G Pro a week ago, and Iím still in the period where I can exchange if need be.

Nah forget all those recommendations! Try out the Steelseries Rival 600 and you will be amazed ;D

(from a long time G502 User)

If you want true 1:1 Tracking like youre hand is ur Aim go with the Rival 600.

1:1 Tracking is from 0-3500 DPI tho just a heads up

I have the Rival 600.

Gpro and Viper both outperform it for several reasons.
Being Lighter and wireless being the top two.

Viper is truly amaze balls though. The shape/Grip and the added Y,X DPI feature takes it to the next level.

Recoil? Lol.. WTH is that! Not an issue you'll ever have when you set you Y DPI higher then your X value. Such a great feature!

I seen that in the settings too, but I never messed with it! I play apex legends, what increment should I increase Y value to combat recoil?!
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: RML on 04:33 PM - 02/10/20
Yes, the macros work perfectly on XIM. But make sure you are not connecting it wired for the macros to work properly. 
If you are looking for rapid fire,  there is an option to assign 'turbo mode' clicks, you don't even need a macro.

I haven't messed with it much because I usually don't use macros, but how did you get them to work?


I seen that in the settings too, but I never messed with it! I play apex legends, what increment should I increase Y value to combat recoil?!

I increase it by about 15-20% for PUBG. Every game is different though. Maybe use 5% increments until recoil feels manageable for you. Just make sure it doesn't effect your aim, at some point you'll start making eggs instead of circles. I found 20% is as high as I liked to go.
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: dpk_ydv on 11:29 PM - 02/10/20
I haven't messed with it much because I usually don't use macros, but how did you get them to work?
I just followed a random youtube video on creating a macro in synapse 3.
https://youtu.be/JLqHxiWiuK8
 I was trying rapid fire in particular. I assigned my left click to a side button, and associated the created rapid fire macro to the LMB. It seems the bluetooth dongle is an important part of the on board memory. So I connected it wirelessly and it worked perfectly. on wired mode the macro din't function properly. But instead of using rapid fire, I have started using 'turbo click' with 7 clicks.
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: Phil Ashio on 02:28 PM - 02/11/20
Yeah, usually this long after I've gotten a new mouse the magic has worn off and it's like, "yeah, it does the job." I'm still in love with this mouse. Mixed with the amp300 it's so good I'm playing MW2019 without aim assist. If we could've gotten an updated max ADS ST it would be perfect.
Have you tried the steelseries Dex? How does it compare to the AMP300? I am thinking about getting the AMP just because the Dex feels too small. I just hope SS releases a larger version of Dex.

Haven't tried the Dex. Wish I could since some members here gave it high praise but it seems to be discontinued. Still AMP300 is my favorite mat after trying some other well reviews mats
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: ColdMan on 05:23 AM - 02/15/20
Yes, the viper has on board memory and profiles can be changed on the fly without synapse. Also the macros can be stored on board and used without synapse, but the colours and RGB can't be.  But you have to be connected via the bluetooth dongle for the macro to function properly. when I would connect using the provided cable to PS4, the macros were not performing as expected.
And you can connect USB dongle to XIM and charging dock to other source.

Viper Ultimate, the best mouse i ever had but i can't make macros to work on XIM. If i connect the usb wireless dongle in xim apex port 1 mouse is not recognised only if i connect to xim apex port 1 the charging dock with the usb wireless dongle attached to it but then macros and turbo mode doesnt work well. What am i doing wrong? Can you explain how you connect everything? I'm using PS4 PRO and xim apex.
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: sncjez on 03:55 PM - 02/15/20
I'm curious for some feedback using x 2800 y 4200 on cloth. Been using this on both platforms (pc & ps4) .. I'm getting stupidly good connection or insane aim  without AA.

Edit AA enabled on ps4
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: Hybridjones on 11:11 PM - 02/16/20


Viper Ultimate, the best mouse i ever had but i can't make macros to work on XIM. If i connect the usb wireless dongle in xim apex port 1 mouse is not recognised only if i connect to xim apex port 1 the charging dock with the usb wireless dongle attached to it but then macros and turbo mode doesnt work well. What am i doing wrong? Can you explain how you connect everything? I'm using PS4 PRO and xim apex.
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See im having trouble connecting via my dongle. Im using a virtual machine to run synapse 3 on my mac and cannot seem to get the wireless connection going.
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: dpk_ydv on 03:03 AM - 02/17/20
Viper Ultimate, the best mouse i ever had but i can't make macros to work on XIM. If i connect the usb wireless dongle in xim apex port 1 mouse is not recognised only if i connect to xim apex port 1 the charging dock with the usb wireless dongle attached to it but then macros and turbo mode doesnt work well. What am i doing wrong? Can you explain how you connect everything? I'm using PS4 PRO and xim apex.
I connect in a similar manner to you. But regardless whether I connect the dongle to Port 1, or the dock with the dongle in it, my mouse works correctly. But there was a problem running macros on XIM. I had tried the Turbo left click option while the hub/dongle was directly connected to PS4 pro in MW (Native KB/M) and the macros worked beautifully, but I cant get it to work on XIM in both wired and wireless mode which is weird. On the XIM App if I just connect the dongle the app indicated that the dongle is connected, if I connect the charging hub with dongle in it, the app indicated both hub and dongle separately. If I just connect the mouse wired, the app indicates Viper ultimate mouse.
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: ColdMan on 03:58 PM - 02/17/20
It seems macros only work when game suports KBM natively which only a few games support, i think MW is the only one and the majority of us dont play this method as PC users are getting some  adantatges in cross play.

Anyway if macros dont work through XIM with this mouse is not that important. For me this mouse beats anyother one at every level.

If someone can make macros working with XIM tell us please.

Thanks
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: dpk_ydv on 11:26 PM - 02/17/20
You can use XIM link to get the macros working if you like.
Title: Re: G Pro Wireless or Viper Ultimate?
Post by: AgentSmith on 08:51 AM - 02/18/20
Any macro that can be stored directly on the mouse should be xim compatible. The XIM doesn't care it just does as it's told.
However the game my not like the input speed coming from the controller.

But just for the hell of it, try adding a delay of 25ms between each click and set the fire rate to be 100ms and it will probably work.