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Title: Plz help overwatch
Post by: xVGx TIMELORD on 09:28 PM - 11/10/19
Since overwatch has had changes is there anyway to make t where everything feels like before and how my sense felt before any changes had to be made?
Title: Re: Plz help overwatch
Post by: Rrerbacam on 10:40 PM - 11/10/19
No not really. Ow made a slight change to aim assist or something. It is different  but xim team made a linear st instead and just reinstated the old expo st on top of blizzards expo change after they patched it.

I wouldn't say ow is low priority to xim but unless a bunch of users show up complaining they probably wont take the time to retrain an expo st. I really wish they would because i think expo has been improved but maybe the st is slightly behind I dont know.

I've used linear with fantastic results you can check my config here

https://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=82659.0
Title: Re: Plz help overwatch
Post by: OBsIV on 10:56 AM - 11/11/19
We will always update STs when needed, we just want to be sure things actually changed before committing the time. So, you are saying for sure Overwatch Exponential has been updated recently and there is record of it?
Title: Re: Plz help overwatch
Post by: Rrerbacam on 11:11 AM - 11/11/19
This is what happened

After the halloween update expo was acting like dual zone so naturally ximmers and a few controller people that used expo flooded the blizzard forum with feedback.

Someone on Twitter later that day posted the "just change all heros to linear then each individual back to expo fix"

It worked. It worked too good actually. Expo felt amazing X 1000. I've seen many players state across various platforms including this one say that expo felt extraordinary. I myself noticed expo with 76 and widow to be godlike. It was hard to miss. It felt so good.

Then a week or so went by and mist4fun dropped the linear st.

Feedback was mixed. Some users like myself still had the original 1.4st (xim4) and was happily using expo. Some didn't and were forced to use linear until the double st was released.

That thursday after the halloween patch blizzard releases a small 218mb patch with small fixes and expo was claimed by blizzard forum users to be back to stock. I myself immediately noticed a difference in expo. Wasn't as good with 1.4st. (In other words..the 218mb patch fixed expo but also changed it for the worse imo )

Then right around the same time as that we saw the dual st released and people were able to go back to expo. Many users on various platforms mentioning something isn't right. Aim Assist too sticky or hitboxes hard to maneuver etc. On expo.

I myself started using linear ramp  because the "new" expo felt off even though the aim and look mechanics  seems normal something felt different.  My accuracy and effectiveness dropped. I switched to linear and it improved.

So I would say expo is definitely different in the game. Whether or not a retrain will help is beyond my expertise.


But expo before halloween and expo after the 218mb patch feel absolutely different.
Title: Re: Plz help overwatch
Post by: OBsIV on 11:18 AM - 11/11/19
Thanks for the timeline here -- that's helpful. I'll go over it with mist4fun.
Title: Re: Plz help overwatch
Post by: xVGx TIMELORD on 10:25 PM - 11/13/19
Yes itís all weird, I found before I got s update for overwatch on the xim I was able to set all my heroís to liner then go one by one and put them on expernental ramp and my issue was fixed but like I said now that the xim got that update and my old save is out dated and itís noe the 2 different saves well that trick donít work no more if even take it if that trick was able to come back it would help me loads ):
Title: Re: Plz help overwatch
Post by: OBsIV on 08:44 AM - 11/14/19
mist4fun ran the trainer and found OW Exponential hasn't changed so the current ST is correct.
Title: Re: Plz help overwatch
Post by: xVGx TIMELORD on 10:27 AM - 11/14/19
So if I do the ingame trick of make all heroís liner then go hero to hero and make them expernental then it should be fixed? Iíve played the game for years and it just doesnít feel the same
Title: Re: Plz help overwatch
Post by: Rrerbacam on 11:04 AM - 11/14/19
No the liner to expo trick is no longer relevant. It's something else blizzard must have done which cannot be circumvented. Unfortunately all you can do is try to find settings  that work best for you.

Obsiv & mist4fun thanks for looking into it btw

I wasn't surprised nothing changed as the aim mechanic on expo "feels" fine its something else we just have to live with
Title: Re: Plz help overwatch
Post by: xVGx TIMELORD on 07:50 PM - 11/14/19
So then is there any hope of maybe after some updates we can revert the stuff back and it will feel just like overwatch has for years
Title: Re: Plz help overwatch
Post by: Rrerbacam on 07:55 PM - 11/14/19
What's your settings?

Title: Re: Plz help overwatch
Post by: xVGx TIMELORD on 08:12 PM - 11/15/19
Am I able to attach a photo here
Title: Re: Plz help overwatch
Post by: Rrerbacam on 08:33 PM - 11/15/19
Use imgur upload
Title: Re: Plz help overwatch
Post by: xVGx TIMELORD on 03:06 PM - 11/17/19
Well my overwatch settings ingame is 100-100 then on the app useing expernental itís 12.50 hip and 12.50 aim. Before the Halloween update everything was 25 25
Title: Re: Plz help overwatch
Post by: Rrerbacam on 07:36 PM - 11/17/19
Your aim assist window is 100?

That's too high

Go 25 or less

If you want better help try to be more detailed
Title: Re: Plz help overwatch
Post by: Skyluv on 02:09 PM - 11/20/19
mist4fun ran the trainer and found OW Exponential hasn't changed so the current ST is correct.

How come nothing has changed but the aim assist feels so much more different on expo?
Something had to change either in overwatch or with the st or something I donít know. But weíre not the only ones experiencing the change in the aim assist.  Thereís multiple complaints already
Title: Re: Plz help overwatch
Post by: Rrerbacam on 02:37 PM - 11/20/19
It's a gsme issue. Not a xim issue. Blizzard must be doing something. I'm back,on controller and tbh I need to get more used to it but I'm already noticing a HUGE difference in shots landing. I was getting shredded by controller friends i used to whoop.
Title: Re: Plz help overwatch
Post by: Skyluv on 03:19 PM - 11/20/19
Youíre using controller again instead of xim? I used the controller the other day and honestly the aim assist felt really nice using the controller. But Iím not used to controller anymore. Maybe Iíll get used to it again.
Do you think controller users now have an advantage over xim users? I find it hard to be consistent with my xim now.
Sucks because overwatch is the reason I got the xim. I donít even play other FPS games :/
Title: Re: Plz help overwatch
Post by: Rrerbacam on 03:24 PM - 11/20/19
Which hero are you having the biggest issue with

Title: Re: Plz help overwatch
Post by: Skyluv on 03:36 PM - 11/20/19
Iíve been maining Ashe. So I have the biggest issues with her
Title: Re: Plz help overwatch
Post by: Rrerbacam on 03:40 PM - 11/20/19
What settings are you using?

Be specific as possible both xim and in-game
Title: Re: Plz help overwatch
Post by: Skyluv on 04:12 PM - 11/20/19
I havenít stuck to one setting. I experiment with different ones and always find inconsistencies.

But currently Iím using

Default sync
10 - 20 boost
No curve
11.35 xim sens
Unchecked smooth aim transition
ADS translator

In game:
6 AAW
75 AAEI
100 AIM assist strength
Exponential ramp
0 aim smoothing
0 aim ease in

4K dpi
Title: Re: Plz help overwatch
Post by: Rrerbacam on 04:15 PM - 11/20/19
I find expo unusable. Try linear ramp config with same settings. Bump xim sense a small amount and stick to it for a longer amount of time.
Title: Re: Plz help overwatch
Post by: Skyluv on 08:44 AM - 11/23/19
The thing with that is that linear ramps movements donít feel as precise. Sometimes the aim even feels wobbly when using hits can characters. Itís cool when using characters other than widow Ana and Ashe in my opinion though.

Iíve recently discovered new things. I think maybe the reason why my aim assist felt sos strong is because I use a controller to move. I tried without and idk if itís a placebo effect or not but with off sync and 10 AAW and 12k dpi my aim assist feels much much weaker. While using a keyboard to move. I have 0 SAB.
Do you use a keyboard? Also this person Bb4life mentioned that some nice @#$% smoothing past a certain dpi. You should check if yours does because that also increases AA
Iím not used to playing with a keyboard but I might have to get used to it now just because the AA feels so strong with a. Controller

Btw has the AA felt different lately or is it just me?
Title: Re: Plz help overwatch
Post by: Rrerbacam on 03:09 PM - 11/23/19
Its def different. Not just aim assist But how reactive things are.