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Title: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Open Beta [PS4] [XIM4]
Post by: xyphonic on 11:39 PM - 09/13/19
Just wanted to share whatís been working perfectly for me tonight. The game changer is to switch Aim Response Curve in game settings to Linear. Stick sensitivities set to 20. Everything else left to default settings.

Iím using an XIM4 on a PS4 Pro, CoD IW ST, no tweaks, no curve, no boost, etc.  Hip/ADS sensitivity set to 36.

Mouse is Glorious Model O- set to 1600 DPI, 125Hz, 2mm LOD, 4ms Debounce Time.

With these settings it feels as snappy and accurate as any CoD ever has on PS4/XIM for me. The default in-game Aim Assist set to Standard is the exact right amount of magnetic without preventing me from pulling up to the head or quickly changing targets. Iíve been putting up 20 and 30 pieces all night no problem. TTK is super short in this game and with how snappy this setup feels it seems like everyone else hasnít even hit ADS by the time Iím getting hit markers on them. Honestly it feels like a huge unfair advantage right now lol.
Title: Re: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Open Beta [PS4] [XIM4]
Post by: nodig on 07:02 PM - 09/14/19
The native Keyboard and mouse on Ps4 is soo much better than the xim
Title: Re: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Open Beta [PS4] [XIM4]
Post by: xyphonic on 07:18 PM - 09/14/19
The native Keyboard and mouse on Ps4 is soo much better than the xim

That's good to hear man.  Native support is what we've been wanting for over 10 years.  I can't give up my PS Nav+Mouse combo though.  It's just too perfect. 

I've heard that using native mouse will force you into crossplay starting with next weekend's beta.  Do you know if that's the case?  CoD PC gets ruined every generation by hacks so I'm definitely leaving crossplay turned off in this game. 
Title: Re: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Open Beta [PS4] [XIM4]
Post by: nodig on 07:31 PM - 09/14/19
The native Keyboard and mouse on Ps4 is soo much better than the xim

That's good to hear man.  Native support is what we've been wanting for over 10 years.  I can't give up my PS Nav+Mouse combo though.  It's just too perfect. 

I've heard that using native mouse will force you into crossplay starting with next weekend's beta.  Do you know if that's the case?  CoD PC gets ruined every generation by hacks so I'm definitely leaving crossplay turned off in this game.
You can disable cross play and play against PS4 only i believe, it wont force Keyboard and mouse on PS4 to play against PC that for sure, if im wrong ill hook the xim back up without AA lol, left PC because of the hackers.
Title: Re: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Open Beta [PS4] [XIM4]
Post by: Ceejzor on 09:04 PM - 09/14/19
The native Keyboard and mouse on Ps4 is soo much better than the xim

That's good to hear man.  Native support is what we've been wanting for over 10 years.  I can't give up my PS Nav+Mouse combo though.  It's just too perfect. 

I've heard that using native mouse will force you into crossplay starting with next weekend's beta.  Do you know if that's the case?  CoD PC gets ruined every generation by hacks so I'm definitely leaving crossplay turned off in this game.
You can disable cross play and play against PS4 only i believe, it wont force Keyboard and mouse on PS4 to play against PC that for sure, if im wrong ill hook the xim back up without AA lol, left PC because of the hackers.

Sadly you are wrong it's been covered by the developers, That mouse and keyboard plugged into PS4 will ALWAYS match up with PC, while if you plug a controller into the PC you will also be put against PC players.. why? Because they admitted in the interview that it wouldn't be fair to be playing on the PC and having the FOV/FPS advantage.

But I know there will be lots of mixed lobbies.. for example if a Xim user or a Controller user team up with a PC player you get put into the PC/Mixed lobby.
Title: Re: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Open Beta [PS4] [XIM4]
Post by: Brutalimp on 11:55 PM - 09/14/19
Fake news, controller PC players will match up with console controller players.
Title: Re: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Open Beta [PS4] [XIM4]
Post by: effinjamie on 05:13 AM - 09/15/19
For those interested in trying native k&m. Thereís no support for G14 or other comparable devices.
Title: Re: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Open Beta [PS4] [XIM4]
Post by: ceebs on 05:20 AM - 09/15/19
Couldn't get it to play with the Steelseries m800 either.
Title: Re: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Open Beta [PS4] [XIM4]
Post by: nodig on 06:54 AM - 09/15/19
The native Keyboard and mouse on Ps4 is soo much better than the xim

That's good to hear man.  Native support is what we've been wanting for over 10 years.  I can't give up my PS Nav+Mouse combo though.  It's just too perfect. 

I've heard that using native mouse will force you into crossplay starting with next weekend's beta.  Do you know if that's the case?  CoD PC gets ruined every generation by hacks so I'm definitely leaving crossplay turned off in this game.
You can disable cross play and play against PS4 only i believe, it wont force Keyboard and mouse on PS4 to play against PC that for sure, if im wrong ill hook the xim back up without AA lol, left PC because of the hackers.

Sadly you are wrong it's been covered by the developers, That mouse and keyboard plugged into PS4 will ALWAYS match up with PC, while if you plug a controller into the PC you will also be put against PC players.. why? Because they admitted in the interview that it wouldn't be fair to be playing on the PC and having the FOV/FPS advantage.

But I know there will be lots of mixed lobbies.. for example if a Xim user or a Controller user team up with a PC player you get put into the PC/Mixed lobby.
Is this the case if you disable CROSS PLAY? Would be a strange option to put in the settings if they are going to force you to play against PC regardless, makes no sense. At least we only have a week to find out
Title: Re: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Open Beta [PS4] [XIM4]
Post by: jericho246 on 12:21 PM - 09/15/19
Okay here's something I noticed.
When I plug my mouse and keyboard in, I get into mixed lobbies. Meaning there's people with controllers and others with mouse and kb.
And when I play with my controller or my XIM, it only puts me in controller lobbies. No one has the "mouse icon".
Title: Re: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Open Beta [PS4] [XIM4]
Post by: xyphonic on 01:05 PM - 09/15/19
Okay here's something I noticed.
When I plug my mouse and keyboard in, I get into mixed lobbies. Meaning there's people with controllers and others with mouse and kb.
And when I play with my controller or my XIM, it only puts me in controller lobbies. No one has the "mouse icon".

Right, that's because the PS4 sees the XIM as a controller.
Title: Re: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Open Beta [PS4] [XIM4]
Post by: jericho246 on 01:23 PM - 09/15/19
Okay here's something I noticed.
When I plug my mouse and keyboard in, I get into mixed lobbies. Meaning there's people with controllers and others with mouse and kb.
And when I play with my controller or my XIM, it only puts me in controller lobbies. No one has the "mouse icon".

Right, that's because the PS4 sees the XIM as a controller.

Correct. That means the "input based matchmaking" kinda works. From my understanding, in the full game if you plug in your mouse and keyboard to your PS4 AND turn crossplay off then you'll be paired with PS4 players who use mouse and keyboard. No controllers. In the beta it puts you in mixed lobbies because the playerbase is way smaller. Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but that's how I think it's gonna work.
Title: Re: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Open Beta [PS4] [XIM4]
Post by: xyphonic on 07:45 PM - 09/15/19
Okay here's something I noticed.
When I plug my mouse and keyboard in, I get into mixed lobbies. Meaning there's people with controllers and others with mouse and kb.
And when I play with my controller or my XIM, it only puts me in controller lobbies. No one has the "mouse icon".

Right, that's because the PS4 sees the XIM as a controller.

Correct. That means the "input based matchmaking" kinda works. From my understanding, in the full game if you plug in your mouse and keyboard to your PS4 AND turn crossplay off then you'll be paired with PS4 players who use mouse and keyboard. No controllers. In the beta it puts you in mixed lobbies because the playerbase is way smaller. Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but that's how I think it's gonna work.

Let's hope it works that way.  It would be ideal.  Crossplay isn't even active this weekend but they've officially stated that it will be next weekend so we can get definitive proof about the kbm on PS4 stuff then. 
Title: Re: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Open Beta [PS4] [XIM4]
Post by: ColtsFan on 09:13 AM - 09/16/19
Okay here's something I noticed.
When I plug my mouse and keyboard in, I get into mixed lobbies. Meaning there's people with controllers and others with mouse and kb.
And when I play with my controller or my XIM, it only puts me in controller lobbies. No one has the "mouse icon".

Nope... I used my XIM exclusively this weekend playing the beta, and while the vast majority of lobbies matched me up against controller players, there were mouse/kb players in some of the lobbies also, especially the 20 player matches.
Title: Re: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Open Beta [PS4] [XIM4]
Post by: omahstylee on 09:35 AM - 09/16/19
I keep hearing about how great the native mouse support was for everybody but for some reason my experience was different. Not sure if it was related to performance since it seemed the game was frequently dipping below 60 fps on my PS4 pro. The aiming felt fine when standing still but whenever I was moving I was having a hard time keeping my reticle on moving targets it felt really clunky and not PC like at all. It was bad enough for me to go back to using my controller.
Title: Re: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Open Beta [PS4] [XIM4]
Post by: nodig on 10:24 AM - 09/16/19
I keep hearing about how great the native mouse support was for everybody but for some reason my experience was different. Not sure if it was related to performance since it seemed the game was frequently dipping below 60 fps on my PS4 pro. The aiming felt fine when standing still but whenever I was moving I was having a hard time keeping my reticle on moving targets it felt really clunky and not PC like at all. It was bad enough for me to go back to using my controller.
Have you turned the controller off? go in game then turn controller device off and it locks in keyboard and mouse, it's unplayable with mouse on. Also enable supersampling and boost mode in PS4 setting, makes the game run smoother
Title: Re: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Open Beta [PS4] [XIM4]
Post by: hello123 on 02:25 PM - 09/16/19
Were any of you able to turn off aim assist? The reticle always gravitates to the target when I am running or hip firing. There isnt aa when you ads (while disabled) but when i'm sprinting or hip firing it pulls me in hell i can even tell someone is coming around the corner or just out of sight in a window because i can feel the mouse moving towards that direction. It was @#$% pissing me off. I hope its a bug but if incant turn off aim assist im definitely not buying this game. This happens when aim assist is disabled in the options btw. mouse and xim at 1000hz / sync off / 12000dpi / iin game aim assist disabled. If someone whose bought the game can confirm for me when it releases i would appreciate it.
Title: Re: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Open Beta [PS4] [XIM4]
Post by: noregretd on 07:10 AM - 09/17/19
Linear Response Curve was terrible for me on XIM 4. Standard curve with Infinite Warfare ST worked really well. "Precision" aim assist. I did better with this set up on XIM 4 over native mouse and keyboard . Razer Deathadder Chroma @10000 DPI and 1000 poling on Razer Manticor mouse pad. (20 HIP and 15 ADS)
From my experience, mouse pad is as important as a mouse itself (for XIM)
Title: Re: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Open Beta [PS4] [XIM4]
Post by: covinhas87 on 12:15 PM - 09/17/19
I keep hearing about how great the native mouse support was for everybody but for some reason my experience was different. Not sure if it was related to performance since it seemed the game was frequently dipping below 60 fps on my PS4 pro. The aiming felt fine when standing still but whenever I was moving I was having a hard time keeping my reticle on moving targets it felt really clunky and not PC like at all. It was bad enough for me to go back to using my controller.

Happened the same to me.
I start playing with the xim4 cause I didn't know the game supports mouse. When I realise it, I plugged mouse and keyboard to ps4 and had a try....  I kept dying and trying to adjust sensitivity but didn't work for me. So I went back to xim again. :)

Plus, with xim we use combined keys. Press O to crouch or hold O to prone. Which I kinda like it. :)
Title: Re: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Open Beta [PS4] [XIM4]
Post by: ColtsFan on 01:39 PM - 09/17/19
My thing is I'm going to use my XIM during the game to avoid PC players so I don't see the need to use native during the beta.  Also, I like to use my PS Nav in COD games instead of the keyboard, and I obviously cannot do that without my XIM.
Title: Re: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Open Beta [PS4] [XIM4]
Post by: nodig on 07:48 AM - 09/18/19
My thing is I'm going to use my XIM during the game to avoid PC players so I don't see the need to use native during the beta.  Also, I like to use my PS Nav in COD games instead of the keyboard, and I obviously cannot do that without my XIM.
opt out of cross play and you won't play with Pc players
Title: Re: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Open Beta [PS4] [XIM4]
Post by: nodig on 07:49 AM - 09/18/19
I keep hearing about how great the native mouse support was for everybody but for some reason my experience was different. Not sure if it was related to performance since it seemed the game was frequently dipping below 60 fps on my PS4 pro. The aiming felt fine when standing still but whenever I was moving I was having a hard time keeping my reticle on moving targets it felt really clunky and not PC like at all. It was bad enough for me to go back to using my controller.

Happened the same to me.
I start playing with the xim4 cause I didn't know the game supports mouse. When I realise it, I plugged mouse and keyboard to ps4 and had a try....  I kept dying and trying to adjust sensitivity but didn't work for me. So I went back to xim again. :)

Plus, with xim we use combined keys. Press O to crouch or hold O to prone. Which I kinda like it. :)
Sounds like you rely on aim assist
Title: Re: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Open Beta [PS4] [XIM4]
Post by: ColtsFan on 03:17 PM - 09/18/19
My thing is I'm going to use my XIM during the game to avoid PC players so I don't see the need to use native during the beta.  Also, I like to use my PS Nav in COD games instead of the keyboard, and I obviously cannot do that without my XIM.
opt out of cross play and you won't play with Pc players

Yes thank you for notifying me again of the opt out button, I'm 100% clear on its existence....
Re-read my post again, I'm not wanting to opt out of cross-play.
Title: Re: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Open Beta [PS4] [XIM4]
Post by: grandpops2015 on 07:31 AM - 09/19/19
The native Keyboard and mouse on Ps4 is soo much better than the xim
You can use mouse and keyboard on the PS to play cod?? since when? Can you do it on the xbox too?
Title: Re: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Open Beta [PS4] [XIM4]
Post by: ceebs on 07:37 AM - 09/19/19
MW beta only, and yes.
Title: Re: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Open Beta [PS4] [XIM4]
Post by: grandpops2015 on 07:53 AM - 09/19/19
MW beta only, and yes.
oh I see so once the games out you wont be able to use M&K?
Title: Re: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Open Beta [PS4] [XIM4]
Post by: ceebs on 08:17 AM - 09/19/19
No, sorry. MW features native M&K support, both in the beta and the full game, but no previous CoD does.
Title: Re: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Open Beta [PS4] [XIM4]
Post by: grandpops2015 on 08:29 AM - 09/19/19
No, sorry. MW features native M&K support, both in the beta and the full game, but no previous CoD does.
Yeah ive been reading about it on a few other websites like this one https://www.polygon.com/2019/9/17/20871083/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-crossplay-ps4-xbox-one-pc
Title: Re: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Open Beta [PS4] [XIM4]
Post by: Xantriel on 01:16 PM - 09/19/19
Maybe my question is stupid but :
If i playing with xim apex my icon will be controler? Or i Will have Mouse and kB?
Title: Re: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Open Beta [PS4] [XIM4]
Post by: sosodesamurai on 02:06 PM - 09/19/19
Just wanted to share whatís been working perfectly for me tonight. The game changer is to switch Aim Response Curve in game settings to Linear. Stick sensitivities set to 20. Everything else left to default settings.

Iím using an XIM4 on a PS4 Pro, CoD IW ST, no tweaks, no curve, no boost, etc.  Hip/ADS sensitivity set to 36.

Mouse is Glorious Model O- set to 1600 DPI, 125Hz, 2mm LOD, 4ms Debounce Time.

With these settings it feels as snappy and accurate as any CoD ever has on PS4/XIM for me. The default in-game Aim Assist set to Standard is the exact right amount of magnetic without preventing me from pulling up to the head or quickly changing targets. Iíve been putting up 20 and 30 pieces all night no problem. TTK is super short in this game and with how snappy this setup feels it seems like everyone else hasnít even hit ADS by the time Iím getting hit markers on them. Honestly it feels like a huge unfair advantage right now lol.

Did they change the Controller Layout Till the PS4 exlusive Beta? I trief the Open for a Feed minutes and Couleur Not ADS with the right mouse Button
Title: Re: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Open Beta [PS4] [XIM4]
Post by: xyphonic on 04:06 PM - 09/19/19
Maybe my question is stupid but :
If i playing with xim apex my icon will be controler? Or i Will have Mouse and kB?

Controller
Title: Re: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Open Beta [PS4] [XIM4]
Post by: manaus on 04:48 PM - 09/19/19
My thing is I'm going to use my XIM during the game to avoid PC players...

Against the poor controllers is OK? lol
Come on...crossplaying is fun!
Title: Re: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Open Beta [PS4] [XIM4]
Post by: xyphonic on 06:35 PM - 09/20/19
My thing is I'm going to use my XIM during the game to avoid PC players...

Against the poor controllers is OK? lol
Come on...crossplaying is fun!

Iíve been impressed with how even the crossplay has been in this second weekend of the beta. You can see the PC players using better traditional FPS skills in their kill cams (better quick peeking and flicks etc.) but this is a CoD game with super short TTK, janky net code, and insane aim assist for controller players so it doesnít really matter. The scoreboards have been mixed every game I played with no platform consistently on top. Itís nice.
Title: Re: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Open Beta [PS4] [XIM4]
Post by: slickrick on 02:15 PM - 09/21/19
Just wanted to share whatís been working perfectly for me tonight. The game changer is to switch Aim Response Curve in game settings to Linear. Stick sensitivities set to 20. Everything else left to default settings.

Iím using an XIM4 on a PS4 Pro, CoD IW ST, no tweaks, no curve, no boost, etc.  Hip/ADS sensitivity set to 36.

Mouse is Glorious Model O- set to 1600 DPI, 125Hz, 2mm LOD, 4ms Debounce Time.

With these settings it feels as snappy and accurate as any CoD ever has on PS4/XIM for me. The default in-game Aim Assist set to Standard is the exact right amount of magnetic without preventing me from pulling up to the head or quickly changing targets. Iíve been putting up 20 and 30 pieces all night no problem. TTK is super short in this game and with how snappy this setup feels it seems like everyone else hasnít even hit ADS by the time Iím getting hit markers on them. Honestly it feels like a huge unfair advantage right now lol.

Did they change the Controller Layout Till the PS4 exlusive Beta? I trief the Open for a Feed minutes and Couleur Not ADS with the right mouse Button
no for some reason the in game buttons are changing, you have to reset settings page and put insane on sensitivity again.
Title: Re: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Open Beta [PS4] [XIM4]
Post by: Jamesbone on 02:43 AM - 09/22/19
Lol I was so hoping to see someone on PC enter ground war with a AIMBOT and just start sniping everyone LMAO teach these console grubs a lesson 😂😂🙈
Title: Re: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Open Beta [PS4] [XIM4]
Post by: GodFather on 11:38 AM - 09/22/19
Are we going to be able to program R3 with Modern Warfare?
Title: Re: Call of Duty Modern Warfare Open Beta [PS4] [XIM4]
Post by: Josheafl on 01:25 PM - 09/22/19
Using my Blackops profile and out aim on linear - works perfect!