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Title: The new beta firmware should be official.....
Post by: GamingNerd on 08:41 AM - 07/10/19
No doubt about it. I went back to a game that I haven't played since the Xim 4. And that game is infinite warfare. I figured it'd be the best game to try the finalized version of SAB because my last experience with the xim apex was horrible. I remember swapping between Xim 4 and xim apex and doing bad every single time with my Apex.

Well, not anymore! In fact, I did twice as good as I used to with my Xim 4. I can't began to describe the amount of fun I had pub stomping like a maniac. I met my match a few times with some really good scuf users. But, I literally destroyed thanks to SAB giving me a more analog like strafe. My aim assist didn't push me away at all. I dropped a nuke my second match after a year long lay off. And I was able to enjoy using my keyboard again.

I literally dropped double digiit kdr's nearly every game.  And though my sensitivity was insanely high I maintained sharp accuracy. Of course, a lot of that is due to the wonderful hit detection of infinity ward as well. But, this new beta is outstanding. The Xim apex.has definitely surpassed the xim4 by a long shot. Thanks Obsiv and the xim team. Now I can go back to playing my favorite game with the apex😊
Title: Re: The new beta firmware should be official.....
Post by: bt1740 on 08:59 AM - 07/10/19
What SAB do you use?
Title: Re: The new beta firmware should be official.....
Post by: GamingNerd on 10:37 AM - 07/10/19
What SAB do you use?
65 for Apex and Infinite Warfare. 125 for Overwatch.
Title: Re: The new beta firmware should be official.....
Post by: WarCat on 02:32 PM - 07/10/19
What SAB do you use?
65 for Apex and Infinite Warfare. 125 for Overwatch.

Are you using 65 SAB on ADS only for both games? I've not tried any SAB on Infinite Warfare as it was not a feature when I played it last, but for Apex Legends I cannot use any SAB on hip, sprint cancelling issues and what not.
Title: Re: The new beta firmware should be official.....
Post by: bt1740 on 02:38 PM - 07/10/19
What SAB do you use?
65 for Apex and Infinite Warfare. 125 for Overwatch.

Are you using 65 SAB on ADS only for both games? I've not tried any SAB on Infinite Warfare as it was not a feature when I played it last, but for Apex Legends I cannot use any SAB on hip, sprint cancelling issues and what not.
How do you use SAB for ads only?
Title: Re: The new beta firmware should be official.....
Post by: WarCat on 02:40 PM - 07/10/19
What SAB do you use?
65 for Apex and Infinite Warfare. 125 for Overwatch.

Are you using 65 SAB on ADS only for both games? I've not tried any SAB on Infinite Warfare as it was not a feature when I played it last, but for Apex Legends I cannot use any SAB on hip, sprint cancelling issues and what not.
How do you use SAB for ads only?
On the top of your ADS profile you will have to uncheck "inherit" this will give you the option to set SAB on ADS
Title: Re: The new beta firmware should be official.....
Post by: bt1740 on 02:42 PM - 07/10/19
What SAB do you use?
65 for Apex and Infinite Warfare. 125 for Overwatch.

Are you using 65 SAB on ADS only for both games? I've not tried any SAB on Infinite Warfare as it was not a feature when I played it last, but for Apex Legends I cannot use any SAB on hip, sprint cancelling issues and what not.
How do you use SAB for ads only?
On the top of your ADS profile you will have to uncheck "inherit" this will give you the option to set SAB on ADS
I have that checked, but dont see it. What build are you on?
Title: Re: The new beta firmware should be official.....
Post by: AMG on 02:45 PM - 07/10/19
Not our call, that's OBsIV.  ;)
Title: Re: The new beta firmware should be official.....
Post by: GamingNerd on 02:54 PM - 07/10/19
What SAB do you use?
65 for Apex and Infinite Warfare. 125 for Overwatch.

Are you using 65 SAB on ADS only for both games? I've not tried any SAB on Infinite Warfare as it was not a feature when I played it last, but for Apex Legends I cannot use any SAB on hip, sprint cancelling issues and what not.
The only time I felt my spring cancel was when I tried to use A or D while holding down W at the same time. But, when I would run holding W and using the mouse to turn my spring wouldn't cancel. I will lower the value to 35 and see if it stops. And yes I use it on both. I actually hip fire a lot! So i definitely need it for my hip as well as the ads.
Title: Re: The new beta firmware should be official.....
Post by: GamingNerd on 02:56 PM - 07/10/19
Not our call, that's OBsIV.  ;)
Od1n said to comment if we thought the new beta firmware was good and it may become the new official Xim apex firmware. So I'm just giving my two cents😉
Title: Re: The new beta firmware should be official.....
Post by: antithesis on 03:48 PM - 07/10/19
This FW is the release candidate.
Title: Re: The new beta firmware should be official.....
Post by: tepidblack on 06:41 AM - 07/11/19
Well, if itís that good it might finally give me a reason to update from whatever FW it was that introduced sync options. I havenít touched mine since then as I didnít feel like making the XIM more complicated than it already was, but if SAB can give me this fabled ďanalogue aim assistĒ Iíve been hearing about for years but never particularly seen the need for Iíll give it a try
Title: Re: The new beta firmware should be official.....
Post by: Od1n on 07:11 AM - 07/11/19
Thanks a lot for the feedback man! :)
Tests like those really outline how much has changed since then, usually the changes between two beta firmwares are rather small and not that noticeable. That way you get to experience the combination of all changes since then.
Title: Re: The new beta firmware should be official.....
Post by: BUNGEE on 09:12 AM - 07/11/19
@GamingNerd, iw was also my favorite. What are your stats? And does 35sab feel better than 65 now?

Gonna try it tonight too.
Title: Re: The new beta firmware should be official.....
Post by: Woodrowilson3 on 11:11 AM - 07/11/19
What are your apex settings for the xim? Dpi and all? 65 SAB seems so high yes no?
Title: Re: The new beta firmware should be official.....
Post by: baadnewz on 04:51 AM - 07/12/19
What SAB value are you using on Black Ops 4?
Title: Re: The new beta firmware should be official.....
Post by: GhostMachine45 on 03:34 PM - 07/12/19
Is there a diff or better effect using SAB  on ADS?
Title: Re: The new beta firmware should be official.....
Post by: GamingNerd on 06:41 PM - 07/12/19
@GamingNerd, iw was also my favorite. What are your stats? And does 35sab feel better than 65 now?

Gonna try it tonight too.
I personally prefer 65 SAB for infinite warfare. I'm testing 35 for apex legends. Right now I'm at a 7.1 on infinite warfare. But the account that I'm using is an alternate. My original kd was a 3.5.
Title: Re: The new beta firmware should be official.....
Post by: GamingNerd on 06:43 PM - 07/12/19
Well, if itís that good it might finally give me a reason to update from whatever FW it was that introduced sync options. I havenít touched mine since then as I didnít feel like making the XIM more complicated than it already was, but if SAB can give me this fabled ďanalogue aim assistĒ Iíve been hearing about for years but never particularly seen the need for Iíll give it a try
If you're doing good without it. I would probably leave things as they are. But, I enjoy and appreciate SAB so I wanted to share my experience. I switched to the Sony nav because the first few versions didn't have much affect. But, this is much much better.
Title: Re: The new beta firmware should be official.....
Post by: GamingNerd on 07:10 PM - 07/12/19
What are your apex settings for the xim? Dpi and all? 65 SAB seems so high yes no?
65 is actually the recommended SAB for the call of duty series. Everything is normal as far as you being able to Sprint in a straight line without veering off to the left or right due to too much SAB. When you go above 65 for COD you'll began to feel it. And the closer you get to 100 the more your character will began to feel as if he's drifting. I think 64-80 is okay. But I usually go with the recommended to be in the safe side. Each game has different values that function well for its smart translator. Overwatch, for instance, works well with any value up to 125 from my experience. Some people have stated using 150. I usually start at 65 and either go up until I find the max. But, ultimately it's your preference that matters.

I came from the Xim 4 so I use 125 hz on the Xim specifically for Infinite Warfare, I've lowered my mouse polling to 500 hz and I run a mouse sensitivity of 14 on hip and ads. My SAB is at 65 with an in game sensitivity of 18 instead of the recommended value of 20. It works for me. Im always in the air on every single kill. I never touch the ground unless I drop shot. I play like a pure maniac lol. But, the speed of this setting will allow you to laser everybody.  My dpi is 12,000. THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR KEYBOARD. It will be way too fast for nav users. 
Title: Re: The new beta firmware should be official.....
Post by: GamingNerd on 07:19 PM - 07/12/19
What SAB value are you using on Black Ops 4?
For Black Ops 4 competitive and Pub I use 65 SAB. To see the affect play one match without 65 SAB and then play with 65 SAB and you will see how well the Aim assist works with your keyboard and the new firmware.
Title: Re: The new beta firmware should be official.....
Post by: GamingNerd on 07:22 PM - 07/12/19
Thanks a lot for the feedback man! :)
Tests like those really outline how much has changed since then, usually the changes between two beta firmwares are rather small and not that noticeable. That way you get to experience the combination of all changes since then.
No, thank you😊. I appreciate all the time and effort you put into the Xim channel and explanations of the functions of the xim.  It helps a lot when it comes to creating configs for competition and pubs.
Title: Re: The new beta firmware should be official.....
Post by: GamingNerd on 07:27 PM - 07/12/19
Is there a diff or better effect using SAB  on ADS?
I personally use SAB on both hip and ads for a complete simulation of a controller experience when using a keyboard. Others choose not to use it on hip. But for my configs and what I like to achieve I have to always equalize.
Title: Re: The new beta firmware should be official.....
Post by: GhostMachine45 on 05:36 AM - 07/13/19
Is there a diff or better effect using SAB  on ADS?
I personally use SAB on both hip and ads for a complete simulation of a controller experience when using a keyboard. Others choose not to use it on hip. But for my configs and what I like to achieve I have to always equalize.





Nice!!  I play alot of BF4 wonder if i should use SAB on both Hip & Ads or just one
Title: Re: The new beta firmware should be official.....
Post by: GamingNerd on 08:12 AM - 07/13/19
Is there a diff or better effect using SAB  on ADS?
I personally use SAB on both hip and ads for a complete simulation of a controller experience when using a keyboard. Others choose not to use it on hip. But for my configs and what I like to achieve I have to always equalize.





Nice!!  I play alot of BF4 wonder if i should use SAB on both Hip & Ads or just one
When in doubt try it both ways😊. I use hip about just as much as I use ads. And I strafe left and right with both aiming aspects. So it makes sense to use it on both. If you barely use hip fire and main kills with ads. It may not be necessary for your hip. You may not even need it at all . A lot of people don't like it. The only way to find out is a little trial and error.