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Title: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613]
Post by: OBsIV on 11:01 PM - 06/13/19
This Beta build is no longer valid, please upgrade to latest (http://xim.tech/beta).

Changes since the last Beta: This Beta further adjusts Simulate Analog Behavior to match behavior of the current retail firmware build when the value set to 0. It also adds the ability to turn Simulate Analog Behavior completely off. To do so, press '-' on the Simulate Analog Behavior value when editing your Config in Manager until it shows 'Off'.

iOS USERS: DO NOT upgrade your firmware until you see this version of Manager show in TestFlight. iOS Manager users must wait for Apple to approve all builds.

IMPORTANT: This build requires you use both the firmware and Manager versions specified here in order to access all features. If you aren't using both firmware and Manager, you won't see the new features in Manager. Please use the links below.

This is a build that, based on community request, brings in the Boost setting and Steady Aim experimental test feature from XIM4. It also includes a new feature for keyboard users: Simulate Analog Behavior. These are advanced features that should be used with caution as they can negatively affect aiming performance if not used correctly. This build also includes a new subconfig Deactivation Delay feature for games that require it and Customizable Walk Speed for keyboard movement.

● Steady Aim: Unlike Smoothing which produces uniform mouse stabilization, Steady Aim forcibly restricts mouse movement into discrete values. Higher values produce a stronger effect. Located under Aim expert settings.

● Boost: Boost artificially inflates the game's aiming stick dead zone. Be advised that values too large will significantly degrade micro-aiming performance. Located under Mouse expert settings.

● Simulate Analog Behavior: For keyboard users, outputs controller values similar to that of the gamer using a thumbstick. Higher values produce a stronger effect. Located under Movement expert settings.

● Deactivation Delay: Similar to a subconfig's (such as ADS) Activation delay, a Deactivation delay waits for the specified time before it's longer active. Located under each subconfig's Activation settings.

● Deactivation Priority: Prior to this change, when a subconfig is no longer active, return to Hip settings occurs. Now, if there is a subconfig between the active and Hip that is currently activated, it is selected (rather than Hip).

● Customizable Walk Speed: When using a keyboard for movement a walk modifier can be applied to slow movement. This change allows the walk speed to be customized. Located under Movement expert settings.


XIM APEX Firmware

Download XIM APEX Firmware Tool 20190613 for PC (http://cloud.xim.tech/Beta/XIMAPEXFlash-20190613-PC.exe)
Windows 7/8/8.1/10 x86/x64

Download XIM APEX Firmware Tool 20190613 for Mac (http://cloud.xim.tech/Beta/XIMAPEXFlash-20190613-Mac.zip)
macOS 10.11 or higher

Flash Upgrade Instructions (instructional video (https://youtu.be/fYlwNXl-ZGw)):
1. Hold down the button on your XIM APEX
2. Plug your XIM APEX into your computer while continuing to hold the button
3. Wait for your XIM APEX's light to display blue and then release the button
4. Download and run the XIMAPEXFlash tool
5. Select Update Firmware
6. Disconnect your XIM APEX from your computer after the tool completes


XIM APEX Manager

Download XIM APEX Manager 20190613 for iOS (https://testflight.apple.com/join/1IAp7e3i) (← Join our TestFlight by clicking the link from your iOS device)
iOS 11 or higher

Download XIM APEX Manager 20190613 for Android (http://cloud.xim.tech/Beta/XIMAPEXManager-20190613-Android.apk) (Direct APK download, install instructions (https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-to-sideload-an-apk))
Android 4.4 or higher

Download XIM APEX Manager 20190613 for PC (http://cloud.xim.tech/Beta/XIMAPEXManager-20190613-PC.exe)
Windows 10/8.1/8 x86/x64
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Xdrqgol on 05:44 AM - 06/14/19
Probably off topic but:

With Simulate Analog Behavior OFF , Fortnite is not playable at all. Scrolling through the menu is horrendous. while in game the aim is somehow slow and sluggish ..

Second to that, Simulate Analog Behavior OFF, shows me a value of 200.

I will have to try the default ones and report back once I finish the test.

Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: ultimateisready on 06:15 AM - 06/14/19
The movement (with nav) and aim on last beta was the Best i ever had on paladins. I had no issues, should i still Upgrade?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: vincent107 on 06:53 AM - 06/14/19
Hi OBsIV

I have three questions about Simulate Analog Behavior that I need to help.

1.If I don't enable aim-assist, should SAB choose 0 or OFF or other value?

2.If I enable aim-assist, what is the effect of higher SAB values? More AA or less AA?

3.I guess SAB value of each game may be different. How can I find the right SAB value through testing?

Look forward to your reply.

Thanks!
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: tsdbhg on 09:10 AM - 06/14/19
Hi OBsIV

I have three questions about Simulate Analog Behavior that I need to help.

1.If I don't enable aim-assist, should SAB choose 0 or OFF or other value?

2.If I enable aim-assist, what is the effect of higher SAB values? More AA or less AA?

3.I guess SAB value of each game may be different. How can I find the right SAB value through testing?

Look forward to your reply.

Thanks!
SAB effects movement, not aiming...
It is only for players with keyboard movement. Analog joysticks do not apply.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: ThisGuy on 09:33 AM - 06/14/19
So then my question is for people using an azeron or nav controller what should we do with this value, leave it at 0 turn it off? just would rather not have this affect me in a negative way for no reason.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: tsdbhg on 09:51 AM - 06/14/19
So then my question is for people using an azeron or nav controller what should we do with this value, leave it at 0 turn it off? just would rather not have this affect me in a negative way for no reason.
It is completely useless for analog users. I would say turn it off.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: d1sable on 10:25 AM - 06/14/19
It has no effect on 200, off or anything in inbetween whilst using a nav as i understand it.

Your input in analogue

This effects the digital movement keys which u dont even need to input on the manager when using a stick.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 11:26 AM - 06/14/19
Probably off topic but:

With Simulate Analog Behavior OFF , Fortnite is not playable at all. Scrolling through the menu is horrendous. while in game the aim is somehow slow and sluggish ..

Second to that, Simulate Analog Behavior OFF, shows me a value of 200.

I will have to try the default ones and report back once I finish the test.

That's correct. By default SAB is 0 which is "minimum", not off. Fornite does't function correctly with it off (neither does PUBG as I understand).

The reason I added this is because there are some users that say they can still feel a "disconnect" such as in CoD. Now, SAB at 0 is minimal effect, but, they are still claiming they can feel it so I felt it made sense to allow it to be turned off altogether.

Can you explain what you mean about showing "200"? If you are at 0 and you press '-' to adjust the value lower, it does't say "Off"?

Now if you are actually setting Fornite to 200 SAB (not off), then that could explain your experience too -- that's way to heavy of SAB.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: M_A_D_20 on 11:57 AM - 06/14/19
Is the SAB feature with this beta firmware just for testing purposes? Just wanted to say I love that we can opt for SAB to be ON or OFF.

I know there has been talk to do with how semi-auto guns play but just wanted to add that SAB OFF with The Division 2 is more friendly with scrolling through inventory and navigating the map.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Algimantas87 on 02:21 PM - 06/14/19
Allrigt  I've been playing R6s for 4hours and I didn't have gun jamming so far which I had on previous beta build   but I dont know everything felt a bit better on previous beta except that I had gun jamming. I mean this beta feels alright but i think previous beta was a bit  better dont know how to explain not much help from me but still I thought I have to  write a review :)
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Xdrqgol on 02:48 PM - 06/14/19
Probably off topic but:

With Simulate Analog Behavior OFF , Fortnite is not playable at all. Scrolling through the menu is horrendous. while in game the aim is somehow slow and sluggish ..

Second to that, Simulate Analog Behavior OFF, shows me a value of 200.

I will have to try the default ones and report back once I finish the test.

That's correct. By default SAB is 0 which is "minimum", not off. Fornite does't function correctly with it off (neither does PUBG as I understand).

The reason I added this is because there are some users that say they can still feel a "disconnect" such as in CoD. Now, SAB at 0 is minimal effect, but, they are still claiming they can feel it so I felt it made sense to allow it to be turned off altogether.

Can you explain what you mean about showing "200"? If you are at 0 and you press '-' to adjust the value lower, it does't say "Off"?

Now if you are actually setting Fornite to 200 SAB (not off), then that could explain your experience too -- that's way to heavy of SAB.

I mean if I set the SAB off in XIM manager (PC version) , and then check with older Manager on my phone, it is displayed 200 as a value.

All in all, I tested it with "0" and seriously I can say that the game feels much better than the last firmware. I can build faster and it doesn't seem to feel slow...not sure how to explain it but, even in the fast, it feels like
"when you are running, and someone is dragging you back somehow, slightly"
Now everything feels snappier, so far I like it!

** To note that I have NOT used SAB at all on my previous firmwares. I had to test with the option off and see how it feels, but I find it slow in building and sluggish in drawing. But with it at "0" works perfect much better than previous ones for some reason...:D

I am voting for releasing this one to retail! Hopefully everyone else who had to test this would give it a GO as well.

Thanks OBsIV  for the continuous support.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 03:15 PM - 06/14/19
Allrigt  I've been playing R6s for 4hours and I didn't have gun jamming so far which I had on previous beta build   but I dont know everything felt a bit better on previous beta except that I had gun jamming. I mean this beta feels alright but i think previous beta was a bit  better dont know how to explain not much help from me but still I thought I have to  write a review :)

What SAB value are you using?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: tankttv on 03:23 PM - 06/14/19
Can we not download xim manager for ios now? there's a line through it and it says 601
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Algimantas87 on 03:29 PM - 06/14/19
Obsiv I'm using like suggested  sab off. I'm not saying this build is bad but I think movement a bit different. If u could get movements from previous build and no gun jamming from this build it would be spot on . Anyway I will be testing all this weekend so I'm gonna play different games aswel so will see.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 03:36 PM - 06/14/19
Obsiv I'm using like suggested  sab off. I'm not saying this build is bad but I think movement a bit different. If u could get movements from previous build and no gun jamming from this build it would be spot on . Anyway I will be testing all this weekend so I'm gonna play different games aswel so will see.

I can't understand how anyone is getting gun jamming with SAB on since triggers are moving faster than you can physically click your mouse (unless you are using some sort of rapid fire).
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Algimantas87 on 03:44 PM - 06/14/19
I'm not using any rapid fire or anything.  When I was using retail firmware I never experienced  gun jamming( if I understand correctly.: I'm using pistol in R6S a lot and sometimes if I press to shoot after 2 shots it's kind off skips third and fourth shot doesnt register which cause me to die) I noticed this in two last beta builds. Today I tested new beta and I'm playing R6s all day now with San off never had this problem my pistol shooting like it's used to on retail (officialbuild ) before  on beta build I used Sab 1 like it was suggested in r6s tutorial by cannot remember who one of u :)
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 03:47 PM - 06/14/19
Can we not download xim manager for ios now? there's a line through it and it says 601

I'd really like that, but, this is a tax all iOS users pay. That's because Apple (unlike Android) insists that they must be involved in everything that every iOS user wants to do. Even when it's unnecessary and makes no sense -- like when you just want to test a Beta app.

Just today Apple rejected the TestFlight submission because they now want a video of me using an iPhone to show them how Manager works. Keep in mind, XIM APEX Manager for iOS has been on the Apple App Store since 2017. Just now, out of nowhere, they are now demanding I drop everything and make them their own personal instructional video for a random beta update of it even though I just published the last beta 10 days ago. They will now block any submission from us until that happens. Again, why now? Who knows. I can appeal but that would take at least a week.

So, you are now going to have to wait for me to make them their video, resubmit the app, wait for them to review everything, and hope it makes it through this time so you can test a beta version. If it fails again for some reason, we start all over and you continue to wait. Of course, even if I resubmit tonight, it won't matter until Monday because they don't work on weekends even though everyone else is trying to get their apps through their random and useless process.

Do I sound bitter about all of this? Yes I am. I absolutely hate developing for iOS.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 03:49 PM - 06/14/19
I'm not using any rapid fire or anything.  When I was using retail firmware I never experienced  gun jamming( if I understand correctly.: I'm using pistol in R6S a lot and sometimes if I press to shoot after 2 shots it's kind off skips third and fourth shot doesnt register which cause me to die) I noticed this in two last beta builds. Today I tested new beta and I'm playing R6s all day now with San off never had this problem my pistol shooting like it's used to on retail (officialbuild ) before  on beta build I used Sab 1 like it was suggested in r6s tutorial by cannot remember who one of u :)

When you say retail build you mean the latest from here?: http://xim.tech/latest
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: jdubz93 on 03:56 PM - 06/14/19
Quote
Do I sound bitter about all of this? Yes I am. I absolutely hate developing for iOS.

I work for apple I do device renewals for a fortune 500 company whose contracted with apple. If their itunes is not updated to the latest version and their device updated to the latest version. iTunes won't even recognize the device. Which is not a big deal however that means noone does backup's since they don't understand why the device isn't seeing it. On top of that I have done 1000's of data transfers and sometimes it randomly will just wipe all their data, AND DELETE the backup. As an apple employee I now manually transfer data instead of using icloud and itunes, it takes much longer but when I explain to a senior leader(director's, executives, etc...) that if i use itunes it may wipe all their data. Suddenly their schedule opens up alittle more to accommodate. anyways I feel your pain apple sucks.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Algimantas87 on 03:56 PM - 06/14/19
Yes obsiv, then I think 201901 was alright aswel and all the rest beta builds gave me this gun jamming
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 03:58 PM - 06/14/19
20180501 is the last retail build. I have a feeling that you'd get that same behavior for this too since this latest beta is really similar to that latest retail build.

Were you using 20180501?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: jdubz93 on 04:04 PM - 06/14/19
So have we been able to pin point this "jam", I know i've ran into left click not working but its very random and its hard to say if it was the apex or lag or packet drop. It sounds like you guys have linked it to SAB so for now would it be best to just not use SAB for the time being?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Algimantas87 on 04:05 PM - 06/14/19
Yep 201805. I always tested all new beta builds,  but always had to go back to 201805. But now I think I'm gonna stick with this new beta.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: jdubz93 on 04:28 PM - 06/14/19
pc manager wont connect just keeps saying failure to write

edit: nvm i fixed it
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 04:42 PM - 06/14/19
Yep 201805. I always tested all new beta builds,  but always had to go back to 201805. But now I think I'm gonna stick with this new beta.

Interesting, ok. Hmmm, I just checked the code again and 20180501 Trigger behavior is the same as 20190613 with SAB enabled. Yet, you are saying you don't get jamming on 20180501? I'll run them both through my input analyzers again to see if I can spot any differences at all.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Algimantas87 on 04:53 PM - 06/14/19
Like I said 201805 never had gun jamming, and the last 2beta builds I had. Last build I used 1SAB and before all beta builds SAB was 0. If u say that they all exact  there must be something who triggers something and cause gun jamming. Obviously then I'm shooting in R6S I'm moving a lot at the same time: crouch spamming  ,wasd...
 Forgot to mention  someone suggested  under dead zone in manager u have 7500 and under is trigger 20 set to 0 that's what I used before . Not sure if that's makes any affect
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 05:03 PM - 06/14/19
Last Beta build was fine for you at SAB 0 and this one isn't? That doesn't make a lot of sense actually since nothing changed that would explain such a massive difference in behavior.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Algimantas87 on 05:10 PM - 06/14/19
Last 2 beta builds I tried SAB 0 and SAB 1 and it wasn't fine, I had gun jamming but not all the time. I'm now playing R6S over 6hours not a single shot missed, so obviously  SAB off works for me. I really looking forward to other people opinion who claimed they had gun jamming with previous build, and to see if this build sorted out
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: ToneBop on 10:46 PM - 06/14/19
Iíve went to update to this build but now I canít get the latest Xim Apex Manager on my iOS device. Iím stuck on the 601 version & cant get a Xim firmware update to match that. So basically my question is how long until I can get this newest manager app on iOS
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: tsdbhg on 10:50 PM - 06/14/19
Iíve went to update to this build but now I canít get the latest Xim Apex Manager on my iOS device. Iím stuck on the 601 version & cant get a Xim firmware update to match that. So basically my question is how long until I can get this newest manager app on iOS
If you had only read the OP. In bold lettering it tells you not to upgrade until it is updated on test flight.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: ToneBop on 10:55 PM - 06/14/19
Iíve went to update to this build but now I canít get the latest Xim Apex Manager on my iOS device. Iím stuck on the 601 version & cant get a Xim firmware update to match that. So basically my question is how long until I can get this newest manager app on iOS
If you had only read the OP. In bold lettering it tells you not to upgrade until it is updated on test flight.

Iím fairly new to the Xim and my manager app stopped working, it said something along the lines of this beta has ended and wouldnít let me open it. So I uninstalled it and went to download the newest one, now Iím stuck.

Edit: Iím just an idiot lol, thereís no real question that I have I guess my only option is to wait
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: tsdbhg on 12:36 AM - 06/15/19
Iíve went to update to this build but now I canít get the latest Xim Apex Manager on my iOS device. Iím stuck on the 601 version & cant get a Xim firmware update to match that. So basically my question is how long until I can get this newest manager app on iOS
If you had only read the OP. In bold lettering it tells you not to upgrade until it is updated on test flight.
Iím fairly new to the Xim and my manager app stopped working, it said something along the lines of this beta has ended and wouldnít let me open it. So I uninstalled it and went to download the newest one, now Iím stuck.

Edit: Iím just an idiot lol, thereís no real question that I have I guess my only option is to wait
You can downgrade.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Xdrqgol on 03:09 AM - 06/15/19
Iíve went to update to this build but now I canít get the latest Xim Apex Manager on my iOS device. Iím stuck on the 601 version & cant get a Xim firmware update to match that. So basically my question is how long until I can get this newest manager app on iOS
If you had only read the OP. In bold lettering it tells you not to upgrade until it is updated on test flight.
Iím fairly new to the Xim and my manager app stopped working, it said something along the lines of this beta has ended and wouldnít let me open it. So I uninstalled it and went to download the newest one, now Iím stuck.

Edit: Iím just an idiot lol, thereís no real question that I have I guess my only option is to wait
You can downgrade.

so many opinions , yet not ONE that actually offers a solution rather than pointing what he did..

Until IOS Manager is released , you can use the Manager on PC,MAC,Android.... I am pretty sure you have one of these.Don't you have a computer? or anyone in the family running an Android phone?



Otherwise , well....bad luck!
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: LSDamms on 04:05 AM - 06/15/19
Why cant i still update my manger on iOS? Do they still need to approve of the build?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Xdrqgol on 04:41 AM - 06/15/19
Why cant i still update my manger on iOS? Do they still need to approve of the build?

do you even read what people discuss here?

It has been mentioned here already that the MANAGER FOR IOS is delayed due to Apple validation process.


How hard is to read?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: tsdbhg on 11:37 AM - 06/15/19
so many opinions , yet not ONE that actually offers a solution rather than pointing what he did..

Until IOS Manager is released , you can use the Manager on PC,MAC,Android.... I am pretty sure you have one of these.Don't you have a computer? or anyone in the family running an Android phone?



Otherwise , well....bad luck!

It is presumptuous to think anyone will have other brand devices. Especially when Apple has a well known and abundant cult of followers that do not own other brand devices.

Also downgrading is a solution. Comprehension is hard.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Xdrqgol on 12:22 PM - 06/15/19
so many opinions , yet not ONE that actually offers a solution rather than pointing what he did..

Until IOS Manager is released , you can use the Manager on PC,MAC,Android.... I am pretty sure you have one of these.Don't you have a computer? or anyone in the family running an Android phone?



Otherwise , well....bad luck!

It is presumptuous to think anyone will have other brand devices. Especially when Apple has a well known and abundant cult of followers that do not own other brand devices.
Also it is very obvious there are other options. People would have to be blind not to see them. It makes little to no sense why anyone would post issues here and say they will wait for the update if they had other options. Common sense is hard.

Also downgrading is a solution. Comprehension is also hard.

Wrong! Please , I get bored about this Apple "cult" , how old are you? 13?...Jeessss

The majority 99% do not know better, do not care or do not inform themself very well. It is proved...


While he clearly updated the firmware ,that means he has a MAC or PC that he can use as a manager while IOS is not available.

Just saying, not dropping BIG words to WIPE my @#$%, but really sometimes you just need to remind people of the obvious things....similar to:

"Have you tried to unplug - plug back your cable"  USUAL CASE.

Let's not go offtopic, smarty-pants!

P.S. it was nowhere near addressed to you, just say'n
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: tsdbhg on 01:08 PM - 06/15/19
Wrong! Please , I get bored about this Apple "cult" , how old are you? 13?...Jeessss

The majority 99% do not know better, do not care or do not inform themself very well. It is proved...


While he clearly updated the firmware ,that means he has a MAC or PC that he can use as a manager while IOS is not available.

Just saying, not dropping BIG words to WIPE my @#$%, but really sometimes you just need to remind people of the obvious things....similar to:

"Have you tried to unplug - plug back your cable"  USUAL CASE.

Let's not go offtopic, smarty-pants!

P.S. it was nowhere near addressed to you, just say'n
I work with people and in their homes on a daily basis for the last 12 years. I am in over 700 homes a year. The vast majority of people I work with that own an iPhone do not use PC or Android products. It is a common topic I converse with my customers on a regular basis. Small talk and breaking the ice. Facts don't care about your opinions.

99%... So what is your source for this number?

Of course he updated the firmware. Explain to me how he would be able to use Xim Manager on a Mac if the TestFlight isn't updated yet?

Let's not get off topic..? Did you even read your first post? Instead of just giving helpful advice, you decided to take shots at me. Hypocrite much?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Xdrqgol on 02:28 PM - 06/15/19
Wrong! Please , I get bored about this Apple "cult" , how old are you? 13?...Jeessss

The majority 99% do not know better, do not care or do not inform themself very well. It is proved...


While he clearly updated the firmware ,that means he has a MAC or PC that he can use as a manager while IOS is not available.

Just saying, not dropping BIG words to WIPE my @#$%, but really sometimes you just need to remind people of the obvious things....similar to:

"Have you tried to unplug - plug back your cable"  USUAL CASE.

Let's not go offtopic, smarty-pants!

P.S. it was nowhere near addressed to you, just say'n
I work with people and in their homes on a daily basis for the last 12 years. I am in over 700 homes a year. The vast majority of people I work with that own an iPhone do not use PC or Android products. It is a common topic I converse with my customers on a regular basis. Small talk and breaking the ice. Facts don't care about your opinions.

99%... So what is your source for this number?

Of course he updated the firmware. Explain to me how he would be able to use Xim Manager on a Mac if the TestFlight isn't updated yet?

Let's not get off topic..? Did you even read your first post? Instead of just giving helpful advice, you decided to take shots at me. Hypocrite much?

dude, just bend off!

no one is taking shots at you , you were the one who felt that I was picking on you, thus the reason why you quote only the sentence:
|"so many opinions , yet not ONE that actually offers a solution rather than pointing what he did.. "|


I work with people and in their homes

I feel sorry for those people, you  don't give them a chance it seems... OH WAIT, I HAVE DONE THE SAME thing like you, I ASSUMED you are doing a bad job, wow - LEARN ANYTHING?

if you work with people, or at least this is what you state...(?):
- have you even asked him for additional information? - NO
- have you provided him other options? NO, why? You just assume things, you should know better that IS NOT OK.

*YES I WAS WRONG, there is NO MAC manager,  wow detective! 

The point is, you have told him directly to downgrade, without even checking with him if he has a computer or anything else. You just assumed he doesn't , which makes me think how you "work with people" YOU ASUME things, wow , I would NOT like to interact with someone like you.

Stop feeling guilty, I was just pointing a HABBIT which is common now days on the internetz.

ONLY THAT! have a good day or evening
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: idkwtf on 04:54 PM - 06/15/19
I keep hoping for more reviews and updates on this beta but its all bickering lol might as well add percentage figures are based on demographic you're dealing with and dont equate to xim'ers
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Post by: tsdbhg on 06:40 PM - 06/15/19
I keep hoping for more reviews and updates on this beta but its all bickering lol might as well add percentage figures are based on demographic you're dealing with and dont equate to xim'ers

No reviews typically means there is nothing to report. It is a good thing.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: ToneBop on 07:09 PM - 06/15/19
Ok so i finally upgraded successfully and this build is absolutely terrible for Fortnite. Everything feels snappy and the smooth sens I had before this is gone. I was on 12000 dpi with a7.50 xim sens and that is completely unplayable. Matter of fact any xim sens is unplayable now on 12k dpi and this 100% was not the case before this. Iíve been forced to lower my dpi to 3300  and raise my in app sens and that  still feels very snappy. Not sure to exactly explain it but something is off and I hate it lol. Just throwing my honest review out there.
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Post by: idkwtf on 08:07 PM - 06/15/19
Ok so i finally upgraded successfully and this build is absolutely terrible for Fortnite. Everything feels snappy and the smooth sens I had before this is gone. I was on 12000 dpi with a7.50 xim sens and that is completely unplayable. Matter of fact any xim sens is unplayable now on 12k dpi and this 100% was not the case before this. Iíve been forced to lower my dpi to 3300  and raise my in app sens and that  still feels very snappy. Not sure to exactly explain it but something is off and I hate it lol. Just throwing my honest review out there.
This firmware doesnt effect sensitivity. You must be talking about the new fortnite st or something. You have to put your sensitivity to half of what it was prior to new fortnite patch.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Key Movements on 08:40 PM - 06/15/19
I personally like the factory (20180501), I still have a xim4 also. Iíve never used SAB, Boost, Steady aim, or Smoothing. In my opinion, you shouldnít need it unless you play on some settings that are not necessary at all, like 12000 dpi on a mouse that canít even precisely AIM at 12000 dpi. Plus if youíre not using some kind of mechanical key switches like preferably Cherry MX, then you will probably have some problems using a XIM. Not everything is because of the firmware build or the XIM it self, go do some research and get you a good mouse with a good sensor and switches as well as a keyboard with mechanical switches.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: ToneBop on 09:55 PM - 06/15/19
I personally like the factory (20180501), I still have a xim4 also. Iíve never used SAB, Boost, Steady aim, or Smoothing. In my opinion, you shouldnít need it unless you play on some settings that are not necessary at all, like 12000 dpi on a mouse that canít even precisely AIM at 12000 dpi. Plus if youíre not using some kind of mechanical key switches like preferably Cherry MX, then you will probably have some problems using a XIM. Not everything is because of the firmware build or the XIM it self, go do some research and get you a good mouse with a good sensor and switches as well as a keyboard with mechanical switches.

I personally use a steelseries rival 710 mouse and ajazz ak33 rgb mechanical keyboard, all my settings were perfect until recently! Now I just have to reprogram everything to make it all feel right
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: teambash on 01:08 AM - 06/16/19
have issues more than i had before in the fortnite. the aim assist is not effectice and the aim is so bending.
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Post by: Bagura32rus on 02:06 AM - 06/16/19

Hello to all ! tell me sitting on the batty [Manager 20190315] expired, had to upgrade [Manager 20190613] Can you downgrade back to 20190315?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: isidrojose on 02:30 AM - 06/16/19
Obsiv I play mainly siege, and upon reading the comments, I read about Gun Jamming on pistol in siege, I've experience this too from the past beta that I've install and tested, and on this beta I dont experience it anymore.. I didn't post regarding this issue because maybe I just clicking my mouse faster than it should be, but now on this beta I test it and no more jams..
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: baum2k on 04:39 AM - 06/16/19
iOS Users can now update! The new manager version is in Testflight right now!
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Double J STL on 09:33 AM - 06/16/19
Ok so i finally upgraded successfully and this build is absolutely terrible for Fortnite. Everything feels snappy and the smooth sens I had before this is gone. I was on 12000 dpi with a7.50 xim sens and that is completely unplayable. Matter of fact any xim sens is unplayable now on 12k dpi and this 100% was not the case before this. Iíve been forced to lower my dpi to 3300  and raise my in app sens and that  still feels very snappy. Not sure to exactly explain it but something is off and I hate it lol. Just throwing my honest review out there.

Zero issues here, I actually build quite a bit better, but I did have a firmware update for my Corsair Dark Core Mouse which probably helped. I have been at 3800 DPI for over 6 months now.... I tried a higher DPI and found that a 4Kish DPI seems to be the sweet spot. Others have mentioned this quite a bit in various threads over time.

I'm also looking for some sweaty Ximmers, hit me up for Fortnite. I have 1300ish wins and always looking for KBM players who are focused on team and dubs over kills...

GT = Double J STL
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 10:09 AM - 06/16/19
Obsiv I play mainly siege, and upon reading the comments, I read about Gun Jamming on pistol in siege, I've experience this too from the past beta that I've install and tested, and on this beta I dont experience it anymore.. I didn't post regarding this issue because maybe I just clicking my mouse faster than it should be, but now on this beta I test it and no more jams..

Did you have to turn SAB to Off on this firmware in order to stop the jamming, or, did just upgrading fix the problem for you?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: isidrojose on 11:28 AM - 06/16/19
Obsiv I play mainly siege, and upon reading the comments, I read about Gun Jamming on pistol in siege, I've experience this too from the past beta that I've install and tested, and on this beta I dont experience it anymore.. I didn't post regarding this issue because maybe I just clicking my mouse faster than it should be, but now on this beta I test it and no more jams..

Did you have to turn SAB to Off on this firmware in order to stop the jamming, or, did just upgrading fix the problem for you?

I don't use SAB because I don't know what will happen if I use it LOL, I just upgrade to the latest beta and fix the problem.. but I need to play around for couple of hours and see if there is no jamming.. its very hard if your using shield operator when you are bout to spam and got that jam..
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Rx7Jordan on 11:55 AM - 06/16/19
I am on the latest beta and just started using the joycons. The xim never seems to save the pairing settings. Whenever the xim powers off it loses the pairing info and then I have to repair it before every use
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: M_A_D_20 on 12:04 PM - 06/16/19
Obsiv I play mainly siege, and upon reading the comments, I read about Gun Jamming on pistol in siege, I've experience this too from the past beta that I've install and tested, and on this beta I dont experience it anymore.. I didn't post regarding this issue because maybe I just clicking my mouse faster than it should be, but now on this beta I test it and no more jams..

Did you have to turn SAB to Off on this firmware in order to stop the jamming, or, did just upgrading fix the problem for you?

I don't use SAB because I don't know what will happen if I use it LOL, I just upgrade to the latest beta and fix the problem.. but I need to play around for couple of hours and see if there is no jamming.. its very hard if your using shield operator when you are bout to spam and got that jam..

In the xim SAB settings, what percent is your SAB set at? By upgrading to this beta, SAB will be auntomatically ON till you go into the SAB settings to switch it to OFF.. so if your SAB settings is saying SAB 0, you then can decrease the value again till it is SAB OFF.

I may be wrong here, but if you haven's turned SAB to OFF in your xim settings, then this beta is effectively the same as the previous builds.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OPness on 12:08 PM - 06/16/19
I mostly play fortnite which works fine on with zero SAB.
now my keyboard is a WOOTING TWO which i remap WASD to a analog input, but i can only use this feature with xim-link, with last update and this update when i press both S & A at the same time nothing happens. but if i remap the S key to a digital key it works fine.

With SAB OFF i have to double tap W key to move but only at the start and the S&A still dont work when pressed together. now i don't know if it is the keyboard software, so take that in to consideration.

I did notice i hit more shots running  xim-link, there is nothing worst then when you have your cross hair on your traget and your bullets are not hitting. i only use the keybaord with xim-link the mouse is connected dirctly to the XIM HUB

CONSOLE: XBOXONEX [email protected]

KEYBOARD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxJJwkxdPPI

MOUSE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=131&v=ehCjeLwVSdE

Swiftpoint Z 3500DPI @ 1000hz

Synchronzize Default
HIP AIM :         9:00
Y/X ratio :         1.50
no aim down sight
everything else is at zero
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Wxstrn- on 12:50 PM - 06/16/19
I was one of the ones having the movement problem and gun jamming. I will test this out tonight and let you know. I did find that I have less movement problems if I bind sprint to my right click in cod. Cod is all I play. I also have right click as ads.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: YogurtcuBayram on 12:57 PM - 06/16/19
Tried SAB off and 0 value on fortnite.Movement and mouse feels really bad on this firmware. I prefer 0603
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Algimantas87 on 02:40 PM - 06/16/19
Gun jamming fixed in R6S , COD4 plays alright, but BfV feels weird I'm start feeling with this update I have gun jamming in BFV. Tried SAB off, SAB0 until SAb10. Dont now bfv was much better on previous builds. And this is where I'm stuck R6S and BFV my most playable games :D :D one game fixed but other is fu..ed lol
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Gamer4life on 07:02 PM - 06/16/19
Just a heads up the Mac iOS TestFlight is available for download.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Omarf826 on 08:31 PM - 06/16/19
Tried SAB off and 0 value on fortnite.Movement and mouse feels really bad on this firmware. I prefer 0603

603 had one of the best aiming behaviors imo compared to all the other betas that were currently released, nothing else compares to it, but the only downside is the movement and buttons have noticeable input lag, and don't register correctly sometimes especially when theres more lag present in the server. Then you also have the gun jamming issue which is present in that firmware, if they can just replicate 603 aiming behavior and fine tune everything else it would be a solid retail..
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: idkwtf on 09:38 PM - 06/16/19
So different firmwares have different aim? Obsiv can you confirm?
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Post by: napalm.death on 11:34 PM - 06/16/19
Hi, regarding the gun jams, since previous update when I use Hemlok in Apex Legends and I click lmb fast while moving around sometimes the gun doesn't shoot and I think I just spent the magazine but then I can see I still had rounds left. I'll update to the newest beta and report
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: isidrojose on 07:26 AM - 06/17/19
having errors on pasting ballistic curves and configs
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Algimantas87 on 09:22 AM - 06/17/19
having errors on pasting ballistic curves and configs

U will have cause u trying to paste from previous build. U only can paste configuration from the same build
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 10:22 AM - 06/17/19
To let everyone know, I did a thorough analysis between this latest firmware, our last retail firmware, and also using the controller directly, and the trigger behavior (timing and values) between all 3 are the indistinguishable. This means I still don't know where these gun jamming issues are coming from.

If anyone has any other relevant data that could lead to figuring this out, please let me know.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Key Movements on 10:36 AM - 06/17/19
To let everyone know, I did a thorough analysis between this latest firmware, our last retail firmware, and also using the controller directly, and the trigger behavior (timing and values) between all 3 are the indistinguishable. This means I still don't know where these gun jamming issues are coming from.

If anyone has any other relevant data that could lead to figuring this out, please let me know.

Doesnít every game in the gun mechanics have a max speed you can actually fire a weapon? It can only fire so fast, so maybe the game put a limit on how fast you can fire? I know pubg doesnít have any restrictions on how fast you can fire because you can shoot two bullets at once with a SKS or an SLR.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: YogurtcuBayram on 10:40 AM - 06/17/19
maybe the problem is not related to the firmware. I'm back to 0603.Fortnite is still not as before. Epic did something again, I needed to increase sensitivity and add some boost. maybe Mist can look at an available time
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: IAmVerbose on 11:25 AM - 06/17/19
Perhaps we can narrow this down a little, I personally have tried every firmware and havn't noticed issues like that ever as I do play R6S (i also have bfv but little play time so i will write this off as unkown in my parts) but whilst playing r6s with any of these firmwares I had no occurrences of gun jam unless it was user error/fps or net lag.

SO what I am saying is perhaps this is a matter between user error and a form of lag working in tandum?
I hope to see any users asking about this issue posting weather they are on a Original console or a mid gen one so for example (PS4, PS4 PRO) aswell as the xbox variants.

Logically speaking if OBS has gone through the code and has not recognized any noticeable changes to point out that would cause this theres a good chance that he would be correct seeing as he has worked on xim for so long right?

I'm not saying that some lines of code can make things go wonky because its entirely possible even if there are no relations in said old code with new code applied.

I'm not an expert but I do have minimalistic coding experience, but perhaps the device is workign harder to read this code and might be causing a "spike" if you will? (this is highly undoubtable as I dont think the amount of lines of code applied are even that big, nor is it spamming a search for IF statements literally every 1ms which typically causes this sort of behavior)

again its just a thought but i do honestly think its the matter of user error and possible form of lag. Sorry for the chapter book here.

Lets also note that we are talking about two intensely clunky games for this subject.
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Post by: InZane on 12:49 PM - 06/17/19
maybe the problem is not related to the firmware. I'm back to 0603.Fortnite is still not as before. Epic did something again, I needed to increase sensitivity and add some boost. maybe Mist can look at an available time

I have not noticed any different on fortnite since the last ST version came out. Im still at 0603 running 0 SAB and totally wrecking people. I do even have a 40% win rate this season.
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Post by: JuanDeage on 01:31 PM - 06/17/19
I have experienced the Hemlock AR in Apex Legends jamming as well when in single fire. But I think it is because of the update to Apex Legends. I ran a rapid fire macro and it jams like every third bullet for a second, when before the latest update to Apex Legends it did not jam. I believe they implemented a rapid fire blocking code or something, BUT the problem with that is that I can click the mouse that fast and it jams under my non script clicking speed as well. It sucks. The code should not JAM the weapon it should just fire as fast as possible per click discarding the clicks over the dev's wanted fire rate.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 03:50 PM - 06/17/19
Thanks everyone. If these games are adding fire rate limits that would explain it for sure. I'm curious if there is a way to know for sure.
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Post by: Algimantas87 on 06:07 PM - 06/17/19
Thanks everyone. If these games are adding fire rate limits that would explain it for sure. I'm curious if there is a way to know for sure.

Contact developers :D  just kidding
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: IAmVerbose on 08:01 PM - 06/17/19
Thanks everyone. If these games are adding fire rate limits that would explain it for sure. I'm curious if there is a way to know for sure.

Well i mean for future proofing we could macro and time each shot and mark down findings of exact delays and then repeat for future game updates in order to know for sure. Apart from knowing the patch notes or noticing the feel by hand its hard to tell currently.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: idkwtf on 08:29 PM - 06/17/19
Obsiv, movement aside, can you confirm if different beta firmwares have different aiming behavior? People are claiming some betas have better or worse aim and I want to know if thats actually a thing or not. Thanks.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 09:27 PM - 06/17/19
Obsiv, movement aside, can you confirm if different beta firmwares have different aiming behavior? People are claiming some betas have better or worse aim and I want to know if thats actually a thing or not. Thanks.

They do not have different aiming behaviors. All that have changed in all the Betas is around hardware compat, movement and SAB (which doesn't affect aiming). The last aiming change was Steady Aim and Boost but if those are at 0 they aren't in affect. Care is taken to never touch aiming behavior.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: idkwtf on 09:33 PM - 06/17/19
Obsiv, movement aside, can you confirm if different beta firmwares have different aiming behavior? People are claiming some betas have better or worse aim and I want to know if thats actually a thing or not. Thanks.

They do not have different aiming behaviors. All that have changed in all the Betas is around hardware compat, movement and SAB (which doesn't affect aiming). The last aiming change was Steady Aim and Boost but if those are at 0 they aren't in affect. Care is taken to never touch aiming behavior.
Thanks for confirming. I thought it was weird that peope were reporting different aim from betas.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: ToneBop on 10:54 PM - 06/17/19
maybe the problem is not related to the firmware. I'm back to 0603.Fortnite is still not as before. Epic did something again, I needed to increase sensitivity and add some boost. maybe Mist can look at an available time

I have not noticed any different on fortnite since the last ST version came out. Im still at 0603 running 0 SAB and totally wrecking people. I do even have a 40% win rate this season.

Dude I must be going crazy then, movement and aim feel totally off since the new ST. And I have almost 600 wins this season with a 80% win rate. BTW what does ST actually stand for? Iím a pleb lol and my epic is tone bop if anyone is interested in playing
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: d1sable on 03:04 AM - 06/18/19
Obsiv, movement aside, can you confirm if different beta firmwares have different aiming behavior? People are claiming some betas have better or worse aim and I want to know if thats actually a thing or not. Thanks.

They do not have different aiming behaviors. All that have changed in all the Betas is around hardware compat, movement and SAB (which doesn't affect aiming). The last aiming change was Steady Aim and Boost but if those are at 0 they aren't in affect. Care is taken to never touch aiming behavior.
Thanks for confirming. I thought it was weird that peope were reporting different aim from betas.


Yep i honestly chuckle everytime i hear people say their aim changed with new firmware.

Yesterday you played well, today you didn't.

An Olympic athlete can have a good race then a bad one, so so can we.

Take some responsibility people.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: ceebs on 06:00 AM - 06/18/19
An Olympic athlete can have a good race then a bad one, so so can we.
Yeah, but that would be because somebody had sneakily changed their running shoes. Or their kit. Or the track.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: d1sable on 06:24 AM - 06/18/19
An Olympic athlete can have a good race then a bad one, so so can we.
Yeah, but that would be because somebody had sneakily changed their running shoes. Or their kit. Or the track.

Ah of course, or the others are on drugs....

Wait that does happen.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: tsdbhg on 07:51 AM - 06/18/19
An Olympic athlete can have a good race then a bad one, so so can we.
Yeah, but that would be because somebody had sneakily changed their running shoes. Or their kit. Or the track.

Ah of course, or the others are on drugs....

Wait that does happen.

I'm convinced people would rather project a bad performance with excuses rather than accepting responsibility. The COD community is plaugued with such people. I have a 4.3 K/D in BO4 and I still have bad games every now and then. I get called an aimbot hacker, camper, cheater all the time. People feel more comfortable not taking responsibility for their own gameplay.

The firmware did not change aiming at all.
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Post by: Mooos21 on 08:01 AM - 06/18/19
Can connect without problems ? razer raiju ultimate xim apex  ?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Mooos21 on 08:11 AM - 06/18/19
Aim Assistant the game There is dispersion and asymmetric xim apex When the target is directed from person to person
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: idkwtf on 08:28 AM - 06/18/19
Obsiv, movement aside, can you confirm if different beta firmwares have different aiming behavior? People are claiming some betas have better or worse aim and I want to know if thats actually a thing or not. Thanks.

They do not have different aiming behaviors. All that have changed in all the Betas is around hardware compat, movement and SAB (which doesn't affect aiming). The last aiming change was Steady Aim and Boost but if those are at 0 they aren't in affect. Care is taken to never touch aiming behavior.
Thanks for confirming. I thought it was weird that peope were reporting different aim from betas.


Yep i honestly chuckle everytime i hear people say their aim changed with new firmware.

Yesterday you played well, today you didn't.

An Olympic athlete can have a good race then a bad one, so so can we.

Take some responsibility people.
Yeah I never once thought that firmwares had any effect on aiming  (unless you apply the features) so I was confused by these types of posts lol. Hopefully they stop and understand its user error now.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: nus123 on 08:54 AM - 06/18/19
Obsiv, movement aside, can you confirm if different beta firmwares have different aiming behavior? People are claiming some betas have better or worse aim and I want to know if thats actually a thing or not. Thanks.
Yeah I read by multiple people on multiple places some firmware provides better aim, some worse aim. A recent one is 0603 bunch of people said their aim was better. I wonder why that is and since many people on many different games confirm this it's clearly not placebo.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: idkwtf on 10:11 AM - 06/18/19
Obsiv, movement aside, can you confirm if different beta firmwares have different aiming behavior? People are claiming some betas have better or worse aim and I want to know if thats actually a thing or not. Thanks.
Yeah I read by multiple people on multiple places some firmware provides better aim, some worse aim. A recent one is 0603 bunch of people said their aim was better. I wonder why that is and since many people on many different games confirm this it's clearly not placebo.
If anything maybe SAB's effect on aim assist, but currently play with a nav and haven't noticed any difference what so ever in aiming itself.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 10:58 AM - 06/18/19
If anything maybe SAB's effect on aim assist, but currently play with a nav and haven't noticed any difference what so ever in aiming itself.

This is likely the case here. SAB has been tuned to be like the most recent retail build so that when people upgrade it won't feel different.

But, this still doesn't explain the gun jamming issue. Unless movement can be done in a way that would jam a firing gun?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: d1sable on 11:23 AM - 06/18/19
Obsiv, movement aside, can you confirm if different beta firmwares have different aiming behavior? People are claiming some betas have better or worse aim and I want to know if thats actually a thing or not. Thanks.

They do not have different aiming behaviors. All that have changed in all the Betas is around hardware compat, movement and SAB (which doesn't affect aiming). The last aiming change was Steady Aim and Boost but if those are at 0 they aren't in affect. Care is taken to never touch aiming behavior.
Thanks for confirming. I thought it was weird that peope were reporting different aim from betas.


Yep i honestly chuckle everytime i hear people say their aim changed with new firmware.

Yesterday you played well, today you didn't.

An Olympic athlete can have a good race then a bad one, so so can we.

Take some responsibility people.
Yeah I never once thought that firmwares had any effect on aiming  (unless you apply the features) so I was confused by these types of posts lol. Hopefully they stop and understand its user error now.


My fav one of late....

https://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=78626.msg764702#msg764702
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: jjoao on 04:27 PM - 06/18/19
Which is SAB should  I use now for Bo4 with bets version?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: tsdbhg on 04:57 PM - 06/18/19
Which is SAB should  I use now for Bo4 with bets version?
??? I'm confused as to what you are talking about?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: M_A_D_20 on 05:23 PM - 06/18/19
I don't know if this was true with the previous beta, but with this beta it error when trying to copy one config to paste it to a newly created config.

So i wanted to test different syncs so i grabbed a few configs for the same game, binded my keys etc and copied that profile to paste to the next one then it says ' error ' upon trying to paste.. but though it says ' error ', if you save the config then it does paste.. partly.. it paste the colour from the copied config and also the hip sync and sesitivity..but it doesn't paste the key binds and you also lose the ADS page.

Maybe someone else can also test to verify.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: M_A_D_20 on 05:28 PM - 06/18/19
I also tried re-opening and re-connecting the xim but it was the same.

Using the PC firmware and manager.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: uhreloco on 07:08 PM - 06/18/19
Hi, I'm using a translator because my English is not very good. I have updated the firmware to version 5.00.20190603 and I am using the manager 5.00.20190119. I tried to use the latest version of the firmware on 20190613 and I was able to flash the device without problems. when I did this the manager who had installed already did not take the xim device. try to install a more recent manager and according to the firmware version. has installed correctly and when I open the application it can not connect the device by bluetooh. I realized that no later version of the manager 2019119 connects with the device if I upgrade the firmware version to a superior of 20190603. I clarify that my phone perfectly detects the xim device appearing in settings of the bluetooh section of it. it is a sony xperia x1a ultra. to that this problem is due or that I am doing wrong so that no later manager than the one I have installed (20190119) is connecting with the xim device. thank you
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: msalghfeli on 10:10 PM - 06/18/19
After I updated to this version, my aim is completely different in fortnite, the aim is swaying and not percises like it used to be. I tried to reset and go back to previous version but its not valid anymore. I tried to go off with SAB but still the same, went to 0 which i used to use and nothing works! Im not sure what is wrong. I wish if we can have the older version back.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Shinsaku on 02:23 AM - 06/19/19
If you copy and paste the settings you made, an error will be displayed.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: idkwtf on 05:11 AM - 06/19/19
Obsiv, movement aside, can you confirm if different beta firmwares have different aiming behavior? People are claiming some betas have better or worse aim and I want to know if thats actually a thing or not. Thanks.

They do not have different aiming behaviors. All that have changed in all the Betas is around hardware compat, movement and SAB (which doesn't affect aiming). The last aiming change was Steady Aim and Boost but if those are at 0 they aren't in affect. Care is taken to never touch aiming behavior.
Thanks for confirming. I thought it was weird that peope were reporting different aim from betas.


Yep i honestly chuckle everytime i hear people say their aim changed with new firmware.

Yesterday you played well, today you didn't.

An Olympic athlete can have a good race then a bad one, so so can we.

Take some responsibility people.
Yeah I never once thought that firmwares had any effect on aiming  (unless you apply the features) so I was confused by these types of posts lol. Hopefully they stop and understand its user error now.
e


My fav one of late....

https://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=78626.msg764702#msg764702
Theres a few good ones lol. Imagine getting rekt and it resulting in anti xim conspiracy theories haha.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Gamer4life on 05:19 AM - 06/19/19
If you copy and paste the settings you made, an error will be displayed.

I am also experiencing this same issue. When trying to copy one config over an existing one or even a brand new config an error message appears.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 10:14 AM - 06/19/19
If you copy and paste the settings you made, an error will be displayed.

I am also experiencing this same issue. When trying to copy one config over an existing one or even a brand new config an error message appears.

So, creating a Config and then copy/paste of the new config on top of the existing Config doesn't work? I'll take a look.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Key Movements on 01:21 PM - 06/19/19
If you copy and paste the settings you made, an error will be displayed.

I am also experiencing this same issue. When trying to copy one config over an existing one or even a brand new config an error message appears.

So, creating a Config and then copy/paste of the new config on top of the existing Config doesn't work? I'll take a look.

Like I said before, I create a whole new config every firmware update. I donít copy and paste.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: uhreloco on 02:57 PM - 06/19/19
Do you need to be with the active GPS and bluetooth to connect the device with the app manager in Android?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 03:11 PM - 06/19/19
Do you need to be with the active GPS and bluetooth to connect the device with the app manager in Android?

No, you don't need a GPS to use Manager. You do need to enable Location Services though as this is a new requirement for Android since they tied Bluetooth device discovery to that.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Gamer4life on 04:46 PM - 06/19/19
If you copy and paste the settings you made, an error will be displayed.

I am also experiencing this same issue. When trying to copy one config over an existing one or even a brand new config an error message appears.

So, creating a Config and then copy/paste of the new config on top of the existing Config doesn't work? I'll take a look.

Yes, and thank you.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: BlessUp on 02:54 AM - 06/20/19
Im not able to repeat the copy config issue. Can you replicate this consistently? If so can you tell me the exact steps?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Dodge on 03:36 AM - 06/20/19
If you copy and paste the settings you made, an error will be displayed.

I am also experiencing this same issue. When trying to copy one config over an existing one or even a brand new config an error message appears.

Same here.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: BlessUp on 07:32 AM - 06/20/19
And you have the newest manager? Have you ttied backing up your configs doing a factor reset then restore them.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: M_A_D_20 on 10:04 AM - 06/20/19
20190613 firmware & manager.

No, i haven't tried backing up and doing a factory reset (though it might work). My report on the issue is back a page, explaining what i did and what happened. I did ask if anyone else could test to verify so i guess a couple of people have experienced the same issue and from what you're saying then i guess some haven't.. strange. These configs were created new with this firmware and not before.

By the way, i am using the PC firmware and manager.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 12:56 PM - 06/20/19
If you copy and paste the settings you made, an error will be displayed.

I am also experiencing this same issue. When trying to copy one config over an existing one or even a brand new config an error message appears.

Same here.

Thanks, it must be because of the "Off" value for SAB. Are you copying a Config where you've turned SAB Off?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: M_A_D_20 on 02:04 PM - 06/20/19
If you copy and paste the settings you made, an error will be displayed.

I am also experiencing this same issue. When trying to copy one config over an existing one or even a brand new config an error message appears.

Same here.

Thanks, it must be because of the "Off" value for SAB. Are you copying a Config where you've turned SAB Off?

That works. Can't copy from SAB OFF but with SAB ON, you can.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Gamer4life on 05:28 PM - 06/20/19
If you copy and paste the settings you made, an error will be displayed.

Interesting, I have SAB off so Iíll try it with it on next time.

I am also experiencing this same issue. When trying to copy one config over an existing one or even a brand new config an error message appears.

Same here.

Thanks, it must be because of the "Off" value for SAB. Are you copying a Config where you've turned SAB Off?

That works. Can't copy from SAB OFF but with SAB ON, you can.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: BlessUp on 05:41 PM - 06/20/19
That explains it I use sab 0 so I havent had the issue.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: LeMiiRx on 08:41 PM - 06/20/19
I play r6 and with this update idk my aim feels alot faster than before and weird and i dont know while iam sprinting sometimes it have input lag
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: LeMiiRx on 07:26 PM - 06/21/19
When new firmware will be available?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: vketv on 05:14 AM - 06/22/19
Iím trying the latest Beta and seeing some issues with SAB.
Game tested : R6S
As R6S works better with Default and Common configs, tried them both.
when SAB was 0 ,while ADSed my cursor started moving slowly to either left or right depending on leaning angle. With SAB 1, this unnecessary movement was reduced but it was still there. So had to use SAB 5 with default to make the cursor movement stop.

I had reported similar behavior for last beta but didnít get any reply.
Before last beta , this issue was not present.
Tested with multiple mouse so itís not hardware issue.(500 hz,4000 dpi)
Tested with 2 different mousepads (both cloth).
Everyone is saying SAB should be 0 for R6S then why is this cursor movement happening?
Does Game ST needs rework?
Thanks
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 12:52 PM - 06/22/19
Iím trying the latest Beta and seeing some issues with SAB.
Game tested : R6S
As R6S works better with Default and Common configs, tried them both.
when SAB was 0 ,while ADSed my cursor started moving slowly to either left or right depending on leaning angle. With SAB 1, this unnecessary movement was reduced but it was still there. So had to use SAB 5 with default to make the cursor movement stop.

I had reported similar behavior for last beta but didnít get any reply.
Before last beta , this issue was not present.
Tested with multiple mouse so itís not hardware issue.(500 hz,4000 dpi)
Tested with 2 different mousepads (both cloth).
Everyone is saying SAB should be 0 for R6S then why is this cursor movement happening?
Does Game ST needs rework?
Thanks

Does this issue happen with SAB Off?

Also, do you have your in-game deadzones set like this?: https://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=43775.0#post_X10A9
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 12:54 PM - 06/22/19
After I updated to this version, my aim is completely different in fortnite, the aim is swaying and not percises like it used to be. I tried to reset and go back to previous version but its not valid anymore. I tried to go off with SAB but still the same, went to 0 which i used to use and nothing works! Im not sure what is wrong. I wish if we can have the older version back.

You can always downgrade, but, nothing has changed in this current Beta that would explain the changes in aim that you are experiencing. Are you still having issues?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Key Movements on 02:20 PM - 06/22/19
After I updated to this version, my aim is completely different in fortnite, the aim is swaying and not percises like it used to be. I tried to reset and go back to previous version but its not valid anymore. I tried to go off with SAB but still the same, went to 0 which i used to use and nothing works! Im not sure what is wrong. I wish if we can have the older version back.

You can always downgrade, but, nothing has changed in this current Beta that would explain the changes in aim that you are experiencing. Are you still having issues?

I think SAB does effect your aim because it effects the games movement mechanics Iím guessing in some sort of way, I can tell especially on pubg. Itís very noticeable when
SAB is on or off. I personally have never used SAB, mines always at 0 but now that I can turn it off or even turn it in 1 or 2 I can instantly tell a difference in like idk exactly what it is but Iím guessing itís the movement mechanics change your sensitivity, well i guess it could feel like itís different? Maybe itís the synchronization? Idk I can feel the difference though.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Gamer4life on 04:05 PM - 06/22/19
Hello Obsiv, I recently created some settings and posted them with SAB @ 0 as you suggested that SAB off might be the culprit. Iím getting feedback on my thread that there are issues still when trying to copy and paste the config. Here is a link to my thread https://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=78969.0
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: tsdbhg on 04:24 PM - 06/22/19
I think SAB does effect your aim because it effects the games movement mechanics Iím guessing in some sort of way, I can tell especially on pubg. Itís very noticeable when
SAB is on or off. I personally have never used SAB, mines always at 0 but now that I can turn it off or even turn it in 1 or 2 I can instantly tell a difference in like idk exactly what it is but Iím guessing itís the movement mechanics change your sensitivity, well i guess it could feel like itís different? Maybe itís the synchronization? Idk I can feel the difference though.

Movement and aim are not the same thing. SAB does not effect aiming directly at all. The only way I could see a reason why people are thinking it effects aim is indirectly. If the effects of SAB effect movement in any noticable way that people are not used to, then any time the player uses the movement while aiming can make aiming feel like it has changed. This is the only way I can see SAB having any effect on aim. I have never experienced this as I use analog thumbstick movement.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: YogurtcuBayram on 02:06 AM - 06/23/19
sab adds delay so it affects aiming(for keyboard users)
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: vketv on 07:32 AM - 06/23/19
Iím trying the latest Beta and seeing some issues with SAB.
Game tested : R6S
As R6S works better with Default and Common configs, tried them both.
when SAB was 0 ,while ADSed my cursor started moving slowly to either left or right depending on leaning angle. With SAB 1, this unnecessary movement was reduced but it was still there. So had to use SAB 5 with default to make the cursor movement stop.

I had reported similar behavior for last beta but didnít get any reply.
Before last beta , this issue was not present.
Tested with multiple mouse so itís not hardware issue.(500 hz,4000 dpi)
Tested with 2 different mousepads (both cloth).
Everyone is saying SAB should be 0 for R6S then why is this cursor movement happening?
Does Game ST needs rework?
Thanks

Does this issue happen with SAB Off?

Also, do you have your in-game deadzones set like this?: https://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=43775.0#post_X10A9

Thanks for reply.
Yes, the deadzones are set exactly as in official config guide. L 10 R 10.
Yes this behavior is noticeable when SAB is off.
With SAB 1 , it stops happening but the aim feels off when in ADS mode.

Another observation: weapon switching to secondary when trying to reload. This is very rare. Happened twice yesterday in span of 6 hours. Reload button mapped to Keyboard R. Weapon switch mapped to Mouse Wheel Down.
I thought it may be due to accidental mouse while touch but very unlikely.
This is not frequent but just wanted to report.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: tsdbhg on 08:01 AM - 06/23/19
sab adds delay so it affects aiming(for keyboard users)

It adds delay for movement, not aiming. If you are moving while aiming and experience the delay then it is not an aiming issue, but rather a movement issue. This is why I feel SAB is useless. If people want to experience analog behavior, simulation is not a viable substitute. Just use an analog stick. There are many options.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: BlueAid on 01:36 PM - 06/23/19
sab adds delay so it affects aiming(for keyboard users)

It adds delay for movement, not aiming. If you are moving while aiming and experience the delay then it is not an aiming issue, but rather a movement issue. This is why I feel SAB is useless. If people want to experience analog behavior, simulation is not a viable substitute. Just use an analog stick. There are many options.

It's viable because it does its job. It increases aim assist and bypasses digital input checking.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Key Movements on 02:09 PM - 06/23/19
sab adds delay so it affects aiming(for keyboard users)

It adds delay for movement, not aiming. If you are moving while aiming and experience the delay then it is not an aiming issue, but rather a movement issue. This is why I feel SAB is useless. If people want to experience analog behavior, simulation is not a viable substitute. Just use an analog stick. There are many options.

Unless you stand still while youíre shooting, Iím pretty sure SAB is in effect if youíre aiming so if you have to move to aim then the SAB effects your movement ultimately effecting your aim...Ēif youíre movingĒ well atleast thatís my opinion SAB seems to effect the movement mechanics of the game, is that right? Itís just there to make WASD into more of a 8 way directional joystick I guess? Iíve always had my SAB at 0, I play on PC as well. The mechanics on PubG on PC are totally different from PubG on Xbox obviously. I just use PubG as an example because there is no aim assist and restrictions on how fast you shoot or anything. Itís a good game to test your accuracy or jitter if you use a high DPI or  if you have a mouse with no acceleration or drivers or angle snapping the right lift of distance...

actually I just got my new mouse in the mail, I had to exchange the old one because the bottom of the mouse right where the sensor is was push against the mouse pad so my LOD was not right( the mouse was just a defective mouse ) because I could push it back up and it would stay for a while but pop back down like it wasnít assembled correctly, so I was having issues with sensitivity changes because of the LOD on my mouse was changing constantly and I thought it might be the firmware but if you just check your own mouse and keyboard and connections before you blame the firmware or XIM, Iíve used the XIM for years now and play on PC for even longer.

XIM is just a controller emulator.
Unless you use XIM Link.

Replacement mouse delivered priority international for free along with two sets of mice feet because you canít buy any for this mouse, also was free.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BzEIrx-BseD/?igshid=13asjk90399ub (https://www.instagram.com/p/BzEIrx-BseD/?igshid=13asjk90399ub)

Old mouse, look where the sensor is, the plastic around it wasnít secured inside so it would pop out like that and that would change my lift off distance
https://www.instagram.com/p/BzEI8HkBOee/?igshid=55ho15e2knj4 (https://www.instagram.com/p/BzEI8HkBOee/?igshid=55ho15e2knj4)

BTW Lift off distance and angle snapping and acceleration are something you should get familiar with if you donít know what they are, they can cause sensitivity issues as well.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: tsdbhg on 02:52 PM - 06/23/19
sab adds delay so it affects aiming(for keyboard users)

It adds delay for movement, not aiming. If you are moving while aiming and experience the delay then it is not an aiming issue, but rather a movement issue. This is why I feel SAB is useless. If people want to experience analog behavior, simulation is not a viable substitute. Just use an analog stick. There are many options.

Unless you stand still while youíre shooting, Iím pretty sure SAB is in effect if youíre aiming so if you have to move to aim then the SAB effects your movement ultimately effecting your aim...Ēif youíre movingĒ well atleast thatís my opinion SAB seems to effect the movement mechanics of the game, is that right? Itís just there to make WASD into more of a 8 way directional joystick I guess? Iíve always had my SAB at 0, I play on PC as well. The mechanics on PubG on PC are totally different from PubG on Xbox obviously. I just use PubG as an example because there is no aim assist and restrictions on how fast you shoot or anything. Itís a good game to test your accuracy or jitter if you use a high DPI or  if you have a mouse with no acceleration or drivers or angle snapping the right lift of distance...

actually I just got my new mouse in the mail, I had to exchange the old one because the bottom of the mouse right where the sensor is was push against the mouse pad so my LOD was not right( the mouse was just a defective mouse ) because I could push it back up and it would stay for a while but pop back down like it wasnít assembled correctly, so I was having issues with sensitivity changes because of the LOD on my mouse was changing constantly and I thought it might be the firmware but if you just check your own mouse and keyboard and connections before you blame the firmware or XIM, Iíve used the XIM for years now and play on PC for even longer.

XIM is just a controller emulator.
Unless you use XIM Link.

Replacement mouse delivered priority international for free along with two sets of mice feet because you canít buy any for this mouse, also was free.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BzEIrx-BseD/?igshid=13asjk90399ub (https://www.instagram.com/p/BzEIrx-BseD/?igshid=13asjk90399ub)

Old mouse, look where the sensor is, the plastic around it wasnít secured inside so it would pop out like that and that would change my lift off distance
https://www.instagram.com/p/BzEI8HkBOee/?igshid=55ho15e2knj4 (https://www.instagram.com/p/BzEI8HkBOee/?igshid=55ho15e2knj4)

BTW Lift off distance and angle snapping and acceleration are something you should get familiar with if you donít know what they are, they can cause sensitivity issues as well.

The problem here is people are posting that SAB has changed their aim. This is not true. If aim is off because of the effect SAB has on movement, then there is nothing Obsiv can do to fix this. Either the people that use SAB need to understand how it works and adapt, turn it off and just use normal keystroke movements, or stop using keystrokes and find a true analog solution.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Key Movements on 03:09 PM - 06/23/19
I donít see why you would need analog movements personally..keyboards have a bigger advantage just by strafing left to right or crouching when youíre shooting. I donít understand why someone uses a keyboard but wants analog movements, just buy keypad with an analog?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: tsdbhg on 03:31 PM - 06/23/19
I donít see why you would need analog movements personally..keyboards have a bigger advantage just by strafing left to right or crouching when youíre shooting. I donít understand why someone uses a keyboard but wants analog movements, just buy keypad with an analog?

Analog has an advantage for variable movement speed. This is especially evident in games where movement speed can effect foot step sounds.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Xdrqgol on 06:17 PM - 06/23/19
I have noticed something when using these BETA versions along with restoring configs...

So far, I have always backed-up my settings and applied them after the firmware update / upgrade. To my surprise, I have noticed, while doing a routine check, that once I created the config again from scratch , the game felt different ...huge difference...

!!Backup your configs!!

1.Upgrade to the latest Beta - use the option "Factory Reset"
This basically removes everything and makes a clean upgrade
2.Create your config manually
3. Test your game and check if you are experience the same issues.

Now, for those who have issues with the new BETA or still have issues ... have you tried creating your config from scratch following above steps? If not, try it and let me know if you are experiencing the same issues.

On my side, I have been restoring my configs during the last 2-3 BETA, and since I have done them manually, there is a HUGE impact / difference on how the game feels...

I am not sure if this is a thing, but for me at least, there is a huge difference - and the configs are created THE SAME (I checked many many times ).
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 06:25 PM - 06/23/19
Xdrqgol, what sort of issues are you experiencing if you hadn't recreated your Config from scratch?

Do you still have the backup file of the Configs causing issues? If so, can I have them?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Xdrqgol on 01:10 PM - 06/24/19
Xdrqgol, what sort of issues are you experiencing if you hadn't recreated your Config from scratch?

Do you still have the backup file of the Configs causing issues? If so, can I have them?

Well compared to the backup config - I decreased HIP sensitivity like 10 or something, In game like 5+.

OLD backup - I had little stutters or during fast draw it didn't register.
Current config (created manual) - I feel the response of my mouse to be close to mouse on PC, aka more responsive.

OLD backup, has been sent to you already , check your PM.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Mooos21 on 12:35 AM - 06/25/19
there is a problem The latest update is Black Ops 4 There is vibration Aim Did anyone notice the problem
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: tsdbhg on 11:27 AM - 06/25/19
there is a problem The latest update is Black Ops 4 There is vibration Aim Did anyone notice the problem

There is no vibration in the aim with the latest beta. You must have a misconfigured setting or hardware issue.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Mooos21 on 08:33 PM - 06/25/19
there is a problem The latest update is Black Ops 4 There is vibration Aim Did anyone notice the problem
. How do I know the problem of a device. ???   

https://youtu.be/zAuXmT-D3M0.   
 
3000Dip
1000hz
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Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: tsdbhg on 09:13 PM - 06/25/19
there is a problem The latest update is Black Ops 4 There is vibration Aim Did anyone notice the problem
. How do I know the problem of a device. ???   

https://youtu.be/zAuXmT-D3M0.   
 
3000Dip
1000hz
G502
Default
game
14
14
1◊
1◊

I don't see any vibration at all in your video. I only see jittery movements. You may want to try a higher DPI and lower your ADS/HIP sensitivity on APEX(Not Game). Also try smoothing 1-5.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: r553 on 09:35 PM - 06/25/19
Seems like the customizable walk speed disappeared?
I have expert config enabled and itís only letting me bind a walk key.
There are no additional settings, and whatever the default setting is, itís too high for my character to walk.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 09:36 PM - 06/25/19
It's there. Are you using 20190613 of Manager too?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: tsdbhg on 09:51 PM - 06/25/19
Seems like the customizable walk speed disappeared?
I have expert config enabled and itís only letting me bind a walk key.
There are no additional settings, and whatever the default setting is, itís too high for my character to walk.

SAB
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: r553 on 11:17 PM - 06/25/19
It's there. Are you using 20190613 of Manager too?

0613 manager and 0603 firmware because I heard about the config issues with 0613.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Xdrqgol on 05:34 AM - 06/26/19
It's there. Are you using 20190613 of Manager too?

0613 manager and 0603 firmware because I heard about the config issues with 0613.

You need to use both manager and firmware version number, otherwise some features might not be available / customizable.

They should work good together and not apart.

Just FYI! You should go for 0613 manager and firmware if available and instructed to do so ó and Never use 1 version of manager with a different firmware , otherwise you will end up in a situation no one can help with if you have issues.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Vixour on 07:01 AM - 06/27/19
Hello, I have had my xim apex since the original release date. I was on the waiting list and so feel I recieved one of its earliest versions. I have used it on xbox one pretty much daily.

I say that to say this...

My xim apex last night just started flashing red, blue, green. I've read the Q&A section that tells me to just reset to factory. I've done this twice and tried to reset to the most current firmware and manager versions after. The red, blue, and green isn't flashing anymore but it still looks like a very outdated version of the xim even though in the about section it read that it is the lastest version. All I see is the hip and aim setting at 15 and I can no longer swipe left to see the aim setting and the extra setting that were there previously.

Help please?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Xdrqgol on 07:20 AM - 06/27/19
Hello, I have had my xim apex since the original release date. I was on the waiting list and so feel I recieved one of its earliest versions. I have used it on xbox one pretty much daily.

I say that to say this...

My xim apex last night just started flashing red, blue, green. I've read the Q&A section that tells me to just reset to factory. I've done this twice and tried to reset to the most current firmware and manager versions after. The red, blue, and green isn't flashing anymore but it still looks like a very outdated version of the xim even though in the about section it read that it is the lastest version. All I see is the hip and aim setting at 15 and I can no longer swipe left to see the aim setting and the extra setting that were there previously.

Help please?

Are you using Beta firmware? If yes, have you installed the Beta Manager from testflight?

You are usually having this ďissuesĒ when you are using a different manager with a different firmware.

Also always, provide more info like:

Version of flash?
Version of manager?

So we can provide proper support!
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Vixour on 08:21 AM - 06/27/19
 I do apologize for not including the proper info, it is my first time making a post. I will keep that in mind for future post.
 
 Manager version 5.00.20190613
 Firmware version 5.00.20190613

I am using the beta firmware, but I just downloaded the xim app from the store on adroid. I'm not aware of what testflight is.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: BestRyzeEu on 10:54 AM - 06/27/19
I was hesistant to update to the latest beta, was using prev build until today. Since i updated, my apex legends gameplay went downhill, aim behaviour is very random on the same settings
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 11:33 AM - 06/27/19
I was hesistant to update to the latest beta, was using prev build until today. Since i updated, my apex legends gameplay went downhill, aim behaviour is very random on the same settings

What build were you on before?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: BestRyzeEu on 02:26 PM - 06/27/19
I was hesistant to update to the latest beta, was using prev build until today. Since i updated, my apex legends gameplay went downhill, aim behaviour is very random on the same settings

What build were you on before?

603 the previous build
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Xdrqgol on 03:01 PM - 06/27/19
I do apologize for not including the proper info, it is my first time making a post. I will keep that in mind for future post.
 
 Manager version 5.00.20190613
 Firmware version 5.00.20190613

I am using the beta firmware, but I just downloaded the xim app from the store on adroid. I'm not aware of what testflight is.

no worries, ok, remove your XIM app that you have installed on your phone . After that, access this link using your phone and download the apk from here and try again.

http://cloud.xim.tech/Release/XIMAPEXManager-20190613-Android.apk


let me know if this works and you regain access to all settings.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Vixour on 03:58 PM - 06/27/19
That link worked. Thank you so much!!
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Xdrqgol on 04:47 PM - 06/27/19
That link worked. Thank you so much!!

you are welcome buddy.

every new firmware, has it's own approved manager. First post in the tread usually has all this information:
- link to download for each platform
- devices /platform  supported
- new changes in the new firmware

read that and you should be good in the future.

good luck!
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Mooos21 on 06:51 PM - 06/30/19
Raiju: Ultimate Edition) nacon revolution 2  Is it compatible with xim  apex .....?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: ORI0749 on 01:01 AM - 07/01/19
I recently had a case when the controller suddenly turned off in the middle of a game, and the player started to walk in circles in the game automaticly non-stop until i restarted the Xim apex. i don't know if it's related to xim apex Beta frimware or something alse....
I could not turn on the controller until I restarted the Xim apex

the console: PS4 Pro
the game: Far cry new dawn
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Lukino on 05:50 AM - 07/01/19
I was hesistant to update to the latest beta, was using prev build until today. Since i updated, my apex legends gameplay went downhill, aim behaviour is very random on the same settings



What build were you on before?

603 the previous build

I too use 603 still as loads of people reporting issues after update specially with apex legends aim behaviour. Hopefully it wonít expire as finally got my settings right.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Wxstrn- on 03:29 PM - 07/01/19
Not sure if itís the bo4 update or this beta but I canít hit the broad side of a barn without angle snapping on this beta. Iím not crazy.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Darkest Inferno on 03:56 PM - 07/01/19
Ok so idk if Iím missing something prior to upgrade to both firmware and manager 20190613 I was using firmware 20180501 and manager 20190601 and I had a good config for halo and I used to have the option of sab from 0- highest value.... so I upgraded and didnít like how it felt and I downgraded back full reset multiple times and downloaded manager 20190601 again and firmware 20180501 and now I have no sab option at all and my sensitivity feels hindered by slightly more aim assist. Now I know previous builds that didnít have sab had small amounts of sab say 5 already in and when I had the option to put it on 0 my aim felt perfect. Now since downgrading I no longer have that option and donít know how to get it back. Is it because there is a new iOS manager and I upgraded mean I canít use the previous iOS manager build? Because with firmware 20180501 and manager 20190601 I had sab value options and now they are gone.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Darkest Inferno on 04:12 PM - 07/01/19
Iíve also noticed that while using firmware 20180501 regardless of what manager Iím using even the latest 20190613 manager I still have no options as to changing sab has something changed in that regard and now whatís the minimum firmware I have to be to get the sab option I say minimum because just for me personally the betas always get worse and worse when it comes to aim behavior(aim assist whatever you want to call it itís easily determined when your aimer has far more aim assist using a logitechg 13 analog stick yes it effects it thatís why I kept it at 0 and now I canít adjust it what so ever so now itís defaulted to an unofficial unseen sab value set). so I just want my old settings back.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Key Movements on 10:12 AM - 07/02/19
This firmware is working perfectly! I can almost recreate pc settings.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Dylan0203 on 12:03 PM - 07/02/19
borderland2
While sprinting, press ďdĒ will cancel sprint
This bug makes game unplayable
ďAĒ also will cause this issue, but not that often.
I have set sab from off to 5, still have this issue
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 03:58 PM - 07/02/19
borderland2
While sprinting, press ďdĒ will cancel sprint
This bug makes game unplayable
ďAĒ also will cause this issue, but not that often.
I have set sab from off to 5, still have this issue

Welcome to the community. What was the last firmware you used that didn't have this problem?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Dylan0203 on 09:26 PM - 07/02/19
borderland2
While sprinting, press ďdĒ will cancel sprint
This bug makes game unplayable
ďAĒ also will cause this issue, but not that often.
I have set sab from off to 5, still have this issue

Welcome to the community. What was the last firmware you used that didn't have this problem?

I think it was [Manager 20181109], but I only played overwatch & division 2.
BorderLand 2 is after upgrade to this one `20190613`, so it didn't test with the last version I installed.

I did try to reset with factory settings and build the config from scratch but no luck.

maybe I should go back to retail?
or I can downgrade to firmware 20181109 with current test flight ios manager?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613]
Post by: Dylan0203 on 05:52 AM - 07/03/19
And I tried manager: 20180528, firmware 20180501, still got the same issue.
maybe the problem is from the game config?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190613] [Manager 20190613]
Post by: Dylan0203 on 06:06 AM - 07/03/19
Tried with the controller, it's in-game behavior.
not allow sprint front with a little left or right will stop.
sorry for the miss report.