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Title: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601]
Post by: OBsIV on 09:52 AM - 06/04/19
This Beta build is no longer valid, please upgrade to latest (http://xim.tech/beta).

Changes since the last Beta: This Beta adjusts Simulate Analog Behavior to match behavior of the current retail firmware build when the value set to 0. It corrects an issue with Walk where diagonal movement speeds were higher than horizontal or vertical. It fixes a Config reordering issue in Manager that could result in Config corruption. Finally, it also corrects a player movement issue reported in Division 2 and Apex Legends.

iOS USERS: DO NOT upgrade your firmware until you see this version of Manager show in TestFlight. iOS Manager users must wait for Apple to approve all builds.

IMPORTANT: This build requires you use both the firmware and Manager versions specified here in order to access all features. If you aren't using both firmware and Manager, you won't see the new features in Manager. Please use the links below.

This is a build that, based on community request, brings in the Boost setting and Steady Aim experimental test feature from XIM4. It also includes a new feature for keyboard users: Simulate Analog Behavior. These are advanced features that should be used with caution as they can negatively affect aiming performance if not used correctly. This build also includes a new subconfig Deactivation Delay feature for games that require it and Customizable Walk Speed for keyboard movement.

● Steady Aim: Unlike Smoothing which produces uniform mouse stabilization, Steady Aim forcibly restricts mouse movement into discrete values. Higher values produce a stronger effect. Located under Aim expert settings.

● Boost: Boost artificially inflates the game's aiming stick dead zone. Be advised that values too large will significantly degrade micro-aiming performance. Located under Mouse expert settings.

● Simulate Analog Behavior: For keyboard users, outputs controller values similar to that of the gamer using a thumbstick. Higher values produce a stronger effect. Located under Movement expert settings.

● Deactivation Delay: Similar to a subconfig's (such as ADS) Activation delay, a Deactivation delay waits for the specified time before it's longer active. Located under each subconfig's Activation settings.

● Deactivation Priority: Prior to this change, when a subconfig is no longer active, return to Hip settings occurs. Now, if there is a subconfig between the active and Hip that is currently activated, it is selected (rather than Hip).

● Customizable Walk Speed: When using a keyboard for movement a walk modifier can be applied to slow movement. This change allows the walk speed to be customized. Located under Movement expert settings.


XIM APEX Firmware

Download XIM APEX Firmware Tool 20190603 for PC (http://cloud.xim.tech/Beta/XIMAPEXFlash-20190603-PC.exe)
Windows 7/8/8.1/10 x86/x64

Download XIM APEX Firmware Tool 20190603 for Mac (http://cloud.xim.tech/Beta/XIMAPEXFlash-20190603-Mac.zip)
macOS 10.11 or higher

Flash Upgrade Instructions (instructional video (https://youtu.be/fYlwNXl-ZGw)):
1. Hold down the button on your XIM APEX
2. Plug your XIM APEX into your computer while continuing to hold the button
3. Wait for your XIM APEX's light to display blue and then release the button
4. Download and run the XIMAPEXFlash tool
5. Select Update Firmware
6. Disconnect your XIM APEX from your computer after the tool completes


XIM APEX Manager

Download XIM APEX Manager 20190601 for iOS (https://testflight.apple.com/join/1IAp7e3i) (← Join our TestFlight by clicking the link from your iOS device)
iOS 11 or higher

Download XIM APEX Manager 20190601 for Android (http://cloud.xim.tech/Beta/XIMAPEXManager-20190601-Android.apk) (Direct APK download, install instructions (https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-to-sideload-an-apk))
Android 4.4 or higher

Download XIM APEX Manager 20190601 for PC (http://cloud.xim.tech/Beta/XIMAPEXManager-20190601-PC.exe)
Windows 10/8.1/8 x86/x64
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: d1sable on 10:06 AM - 06/04/19
Nice. Could someone braver than me report back if Apex Legends works ok with this build. Would rather not have to back date again if it does not. Appreciate it.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Bohne2312 on 10:15 AM - 06/04/19
Nice. Could someone braver than me report back if Apex Legends works ok with this build. Would rather not have to back date again if it does not. Appreciate it.

Only the brave!

Works good
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 10:42 AM - 06/04/19
d1sable, multiple community members that I sent the private build to reported that it's fixed. It would be great if you could upgrade.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: d1sable on 11:01 AM - 06/04/19
Yep will do, could not test the private one as been at work all day until now.

Appreciate the continued support.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: BlessUp on 07:58 PM - 06/04/19
I barley play apex and thought it was normal for sprint not to work unless holding forward. I remeber immediately noticing a different in feel on pubg with wasd but didn't realize it was malfunctioning.  Testing the beta now and sprint no longer cancels on apex.  Testing on bo4 now and it feels like aim assist isn't as strong do I need to add sab to make it stronger as I always use 0. It could just be me though because I swear with this game has so much to do with connection so I'll test a few more than hop on some pubg.  Apperciate the constant updates OBsIV.

Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Undetected on 02:16 AM - 06/05/19
Wow thanks for the quick fix boss! Seriously greatjob
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: NkNk on 02:36 AM - 06/05/19
ive been having trouble with Apex Legends, sometimes walking/Moving Right wont work (just stops) or I have a delay to it. I use WASD. so it would be my D key. when I'm in the menus it works perfectly without any problems but in game is where I notice that sometimes its not responsive, please help
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Antec800 on 04:16 AM - 06/05/19
ive been having trouble with Apex Legends, sometimes walking/Moving Right wont work (just stops) or I have a delay to it. I use WASD. so it would be my D key. when I'm in the menus it works perfectly without any problems but in game is where I notice that sometimes its not responsive, please help
Itís a keyboard compatibility problem
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: SLeePLatED on 09:07 AM - 06/05/19
ive been having trouble with Apex Legends, sometimes walking/Moving Right wont work (just stops) or I have a delay to it. I use WASD. so it would be my D key. when I'm in the menus it works perfectly without any problems but in game is where I notice that sometimes its not responsive, please help
Itís a keyboard compatibility problem

Same issue, I use Orb Weaver since Xim4!!
I got this issue once I update previous firmware
I had to swap to Wooting2 by use analog input (not digital for prevent same issue)
However, i will try this update
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Tray51 on 09:12 AM - 06/05/19
Iíve factory reset my xim apex and now my sense are messed up. After reset and putting my hip and ads back in the senses are faster for some odd reason. If any one could help I would gladly appreciate it.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: d1sable on 10:02 AM - 06/05/19
Iíve factory reset my xim apex and now my sense are messed up. After reset and putting my hip and ads back in the senses are faster for some odd reason. If any one could help I would gladly appreciate it.

You probably have your snyc changed. Try switching it to common eg and see if its back to normal. Sensitivity is not changed in firmwares
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 10:17 AM - 06/05/19
Same issue, I use Orb Weaver since Xim4!!
I got this issue once I update previous firmware
I had to swap to Wooting2 by use analog input (not digital for prevent same issue)
However, i will try this update

Give this new update a run. I haven't seen anything like this while testing these fixes.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Tray51 on 10:23 AM - 06/05/19
When I reset it I didnít backup anything I just reinserted my configs but I play on default sync like before the reset but the sense wasnít like this. I donít know if I have to change something in the xim settings
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: d1sable on 10:34 AM - 06/05/19
When I reset it I didnít backup anything I just reinserted my configs but I play on default sync like before the reset but the sense wasnít like this. I donít know if I have to change something in the xim settings

What game are u playing? If it's fortnite then it will be due to the new ST which u probably didn't download till now when u factory reset.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: jd394y on 10:55 AM - 06/05/19
ive been having trouble with Apex Legends, sometimes walking/Moving Right wont work (just stops) or I have a delay to it. I use WASD. so it would be my D key. when I'm in the menus it works perfectly without any problems but in game is where I notice that sometimes its not responsive, please help

THIS! i knew something was off.... I've never had this problem until updating. almost like holding W down and hitting D it'll cause a pause and stop suddenly. very annoying esp getting caught in gun fights trying to move.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Tray51 on 11:04 AM - 06/05/19
Yes the game is fortnite but I have to change the in game x and y instead of the xim. I was on the latest update it just went left when factory reset. Iím wondering if analog  and dead zone have anything to do with it
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 11:09 AM - 06/05/19
THIS! i knew something was off.... I've never had this problem until updating. almost like holding W down and hitting D it'll cause a pause and stop suddenly. very annoying esp getting caught in gun fights trying to move.

I really don't understand what's wrong with this game compared to all others. What was the last update where you didn't have this problem?

Also, what's interesting is that SAB 0 now is very similar to our latest retail build (http://xim.tech/latest). Meaning, all these issues being reported in this game would also occur on the retail build.

Is this only happening when sprinting forward and then switching to diagonal? Or does it happen while walking diagonal and then sprinting?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: jd394y on 11:20 AM - 06/05/19
THIS! i knew something was off.... I've never had this problem until updating. almost like holding W down and hitting D it'll cause a pause and stop suddenly. very annoying esp getting caught in gun fights trying to move.

I really don't understand what's wrong with this game compared to all others. What was the last update where you didn't have this problem?

Also, what's interesting is that SAB 0 now is very similar to our latest retail build (http://xim.tech/latest). Meaning, all these issues being reported in this game would also occur on the retail build.

Is this only happening when sprinting forward and then switching to diagonal? Or does it happen while walking diagonal and then sprinting?

ok so upgrading to 0603 fixed it! just played 3 games with no issues. 0601 was the one i was having issues with. it was almost like a joint press of both buttons together caused the issue. Thank god that's taken care of :)
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 11:39 AM - 06/05/19
Ok yes, please don't use firmware 20190601. I did fix a sprinting issue for Apex Legends that is in 20190603 firmware. If it was still happening on 0603 I'm not sure what else it could be. :)
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: NkNk on 01:37 PM - 06/05/19
Same issue, I use Orb Weaver since Xim4!!
I got this issue once I update previous firmware
I had to swap to Wooting2 by use analog input (not digital for prevent same issue)
However, i will try this update
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 How did you fix it ??
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: ItZ_Me_Not_You on 03:54 PM - 06/05/19
03 is working smooth! Cheers!

Apex Legends
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Kevincaca on 08:52 AM - 06/06/19
I had TD2 input delay issue since update to 20190320 or latest version
https://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=78358.0 (https://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=78358.0)

I compared 0601/0603 to 0217 which i am using
I feel 0601/0603 still have very mildly delay,
But its noticeable, specifically when you using WASD to browse the ingame menu,
You can feel the movement does not synchronize!

So i rollback to 0217 again ,because the raid difficulty is no joke

Anyway,
Thank you updates for TD2
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 09:16 AM - 06/06/19
I had TD2 input delay issue since update to 20190320 or latest version
https://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=78358.0 (https://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=78358.0)

I compared 0601/0603 to 0217 which i am using
I feel 0601/0603 still have very mildly delay,
But its noticeable, specifically when you using WASD to browse the ingame menu,
You can feel the movement does not synchronize!

So i rollback to 0217 again ,because the raid difficulty is no joke

Anyway,
Thank you updates for TD2

This is true even at SAB 0 ?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Kevincaca on 09:28 AM - 06/06/19
I had TD2 input delay issue since update to 20190320 or latest version
https://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=78358.0 (https://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=78358.0)

I compared 0601/0603 to 0217 which i am using
I feel 0601/0603 still have very mildly delay,
But its noticeable, specifically when you using WASD to browse the ingame menu,
You can feel the movement does not synchronize!

So i rollback to 0217 again ,because the raid difficulty is no joke

Anyway,
Thank you updates for TD2

This is true even at SAB 0 ?
yup

https://imgur.com/a/0Hoc4nj (https://imgur.com/a/0Hoc4nj)
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 09:49 AM - 06/06/19
TD2 = The Division 2, right? :-)
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: idkwtf on 11:55 AM - 06/06/19
TD2 = The Division 2, right? :-)
Yeah he is talking about the division 2
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Kevincaca on 12:04 PM - 06/06/19
TD2 = The Division 2, right? :-)
Yes,this short term from reddit
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: idkwtf on 12:09 PM - 06/06/19
I am a nav user but I am switching keyboard soon. How do I decide which beta to use? It seems like they are all giving different results with wasd movement. Shoudlnt SAB set to 0 be the same as off? Why do different betas have different results when set to 0? Just trying to understand before I make the switch. I dont want to end up using a beta that unknowingly hinders my gameplay in some way.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: BlueAid on 01:21 PM - 06/06/19
I am a nav user but I am switching keyboard soon. How do I decide which beta to use? It seems like they are all giving different results with wasd movement. Shoudlnt SAB set to 0 be the same as off? Why do different betas have different results when set to 0? Just trying to understand before I make the switch. I dont want to end up using a beta that unknowingly hinders my gameplay in some way.

While there are a lot of betas, you are likely safe to use the most recent. I'd use this one if you are considering trying it.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 02:34 PM - 06/06/19
TD2 = The Division 2, right? :-)
Yes,this short term from reddit

Ok, I just wanted to confirm that. Are you seeing any issues outside of the menu -- like when you are in-game?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: jdubz93 on 04:43 PM - 06/06/19
hey OBV, fortntie just did a new update and my sen is alot slower now especially Y axis up and down. Can you look to see if a new st needs to be built. And is this going to be a thing for every fortnite update now? because that would be a major issue.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: BlueAid on 06:04 PM - 06/06/19
hey OBV, fortntie just did a new update and my sen is alot slower now especially Y axis up and down. Can you look to see if a new st needs to be built. And is this going to be a thing for every fortnite update now? because that would be a major issue.

You would have to ask Epic that question
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: jgpasa on 06:08 PM - 06/06/19
K63 wireless mode on 3.0X firmware still not working for me (2 different KBs). Wired is working.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: SLeePLatED on 07:33 PM - 06/06/19
Same issue, I use Orb Weaver since Xim4!!
I got this issue once I update previous firmware
I had to swap to Wooting2 by use analog input (not digital for prevent same issue)
However, i will try this update

Give this new update a run. I haven't seen anything like this while testing these fixes.


After test it rarely happen just 1 time during 6 hours while i am playing. It happen only forward or backward button
I had check my orbweaver with PC, not problem at all.
I will deeply check my orbweaver again
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: MaNuAl on 07:28 AM - 06/07/19
Could be me but I think the aiming felt better in FW 20190429 than it does in this one (For Fortnite anyhow)

Is there a difference in say SAB between the two with a higher up value set? As mentioned, could be me or then again, could be Epic adjusting their aiming setup.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Kevincaca on 08:09 AM - 06/07/19
TD2 = The Division 2, right? :-)
Yes,this short term from reddit

Ok, I just wanted to confirm that. Are you seeing any issues outside of the menu -- like when you are in-game?
I use volume up/down to test
I can feel delay when ingame setting

But I dont feel delay in PS4 settings...
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 10:01 AM - 06/07/19
You feel the delay in-game but not while in PS4 settings? That means it's a problem with the game.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: b00st_g0d on 11:54 PM - 06/07/19
This is a very nice set of features and fixes.  SAB seems to make my mouse aiming feel more PC like. Is this my imagination?
Now to get my brain wrapped around deactivation delay. Modify walk speed has been on my wishlist since day one.
Thanks again.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 08:44 AM - 06/08/19
This is a very nice set of features and fixes.  SAB seems to make my mouse aiming feel more PC like. Is this my imagination?
Now to get my brain wrapped around deactivation delay. Modify walk speed has been on my wishlist since day one.
Thanks again.

I'm glad things are working well for you. What games are you playing? Also, console games are designed for analog movement. It's not unexpected that overall feel would be improved because of SAB.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OPness on 10:26 AM - 06/08/19
Could be me but I think the aiming felt better in FW 20190429 than it does in this one (For Fortnite anyhow)

Is there a difference in say SAB between the two with a higher up value set? As mentioned, could be me or then again, could be Epic adjusting their aiming setup.


the fortnite config was updated at the same time as the FW 20190429 and it was perfect. The bullet magnetism was 100% but sadly it only lasted a day or two until epic games updated fortnite, That's probably what you felt.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: b00st_g0d on 10:36 AM - 06/08/19
This is a very nice set of features and fixes.  SAB seems to make my mouse aiming feel more PC like. Is this my imagination?
Now to get my brain wrapped around deactivation delay. Modify walk speed has been on my wishlist since day one.
Thanks again.

I'm glad things are working well for you. What games are you playing? Also, console games are designed for analog movement. It's not unexpected that overall feel would be improved because of SAB.
I am playing BO4: Blackout.  It's a mess but I have a good time.Thanks for the continued updates.  8) 8)
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: b00st_g0d on 10:42 AM - 06/08/19
This is a very nice set of features and fixes.  SAB seems to make my mouse aiming feel more PC like. Is this my imagination?
Now to get my brain wrapped around deactivation delay. Modify walk speed has been on my wishlist since day one.
Thanks again.

I'm glad things are working well for you. What games are you playing? Also, console games are designed for analog movement. It's not unexpected that overall feel would be improved because of SAB.

The only thing left on my wishlist is being able to be able to change configs and use the commander/manager from my PC. I already have my ps4 and PC running, hate cluttering my phone or my desk with a tablet. ;D   Please bring back PC comm via ximlink somehow or other...
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Sploogely on 01:45 PM - 06/08/19
How do o revert back to a previous build and manager app update? I feel like this new beta did something to my siege sensivity.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: ceebs on 02:28 AM - 06/09/19
Been playing Borderlands : The Handsome Collection recently (free for PS subscribers) on the previous Apex firmware.

Every time I strafed whilst sprinting, my character would come out of sprint. Annoying, but not game-breaking in a single-player game. This firmware update has fixed that. I can now strafe whilst sprinting, to my hearts content (and no change to any of my in-game settings). And it feels identical to the previous beta. Thanks OBsIV.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Happy1975 on 02:31 AM - 06/09/19
I can not install the new version for Android on my tablet and not on my smartphone. If I'm on the link, nothing happens. Can someone help me?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: willemk on 05:33 AM - 06/09/19
Just press longer on the link or press and open the link in a new tab.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: FookinFactsDawg on 11:32 AM - 06/09/19
How come I've lost the settings like boost and SAB etc
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: The prodigy on 12:30 PM - 06/09/19
This is my favorite beta from the last few months.  Loving the way 0 SAB is feeling right now, it really meshes perfectly with aim assist for me on apex legends.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Baileyk599 on 01:53 PM - 06/09/19
Okay soooooooo this new beta for my xim apex completely messed up my sensitivity for rainbow six siege. I downloaded the firmware for my xim and the new xim manager update and I can noticeably tell there is a HUGE difference in my sensitivity. It took me a long time to find a perfect sense for myself and now itís just gone! Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: BlueAid on 03:12 PM - 06/09/19
Okay soooooooo this new beta for my xim apex completely messed up my sensitivity for rainbow six siege. I downloaded the firmware for my xim and the new xim manager update and I can noticeably tell there is a HUGE difference in my sensitivity. It took me a long time to find a perfect sense for myself and now itís just gone! Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Did you remember to change back to the sync you were using?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Baileyk599 on 04:48 PM - 06/09/19
Okay soooooooo this new beta for my xim apex completely messed up my sensitivity for rainbow six siege. I downloaded the firmware for my xim and the new xim manager update and I can noticeably tell there is a HUGE difference in my sensitivity. It took me a long time to find a perfect sense for myself and now itís just gone! Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Did you remember to change back to the sync you were using?


Yes I did, everything on my manager is the same.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: alanmcgregor on 06:11 PM - 06/09/19
Just to report: No random aim snapping or jumping in my end.  :)

Wireless G305/1000Hz/4000DPI.
Ventus R/1000Hz/4000DPI.

XIM Apex / 1000Hz rr, SAB = 0.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: tsdbhg on 07:28 PM - 06/09/19
Yah this is looking good. Release Candidate.  :)
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Omarf826 on 09:02 PM - 06/09/19
Someone test the semi automatic but on blackout currently and report back, gun will stop firing even after clicking several times
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: tsdbhg on 09:33 PM - 06/09/19
Someone test the semi automatic but on blackout currently and report back, gun will stop firing even after clicking several times

No issues here. Maybe your mouse is dirty and needs cleaning?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: BlessUp on 10:27 PM - 06/09/19
I have been having a strange issue where my Xbox controllers Xbox button will slowly blink white like its losing sync,. I'm using with titan 2 though and I feel like its the issue because if I switch profiles it stops.  If it happens again I'll test with it removed from the chain.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Omarf826 on 10:31 PM - 06/09/19
Someone test the semi automatic but on blackout currently and report back, gun will stop firing even after clicking several times

No issues here. Maybe your mouse is dirty and needs cleaning?

Nope 100% not the mouse its a brand new g502 wireless works fine on other firmwares like 315,320 for example, but since 601/603 the issue has rised
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Tahsin on 08:01 AM - 06/10/19
Someone test the semi automatic but on blackout currently and report back, gun will stop firing even after clicking several times
Same issue when firing with m16 in  Pubg
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: hexa on 08:43 AM - 06/10/19
Anyone else's app is crashing? Im using this XIM APEX Manager 20190601 for iOS
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Omarf826 on 11:58 PM - 06/10/19
Someone test the semi automatic but on blackout currently and report back, gun will stop firing even after clicking several times
Same issue when firing with m16 in  Pubg

There it is, more than one user experiencing the same issue, and someone else pointed it out in another post in a diff section, its like the issue only happens with burst/semi fire weapons only when trying to rapidly tap the fire button on the player as your tracking him... please admins look into this issue, i wont upgrade my firmware from 320 until this issue gets resolved...
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: MaNuAl on 02:38 AM - 06/11/19
Not sure if this is a FW bug or a Fortnite bug but there's been times when trying to build, say a wall (left click) and it's stuck in ramp (right click) - after a few left clicks, it eventually switches over.

Could be related to the issue the PUBG/Blackout guys are having with firing?

Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: ozzixdd on 04:19 AM - 06/11/19
Yo. I also created a post that the 1 click - 1 fire weapon stops when you fast click the mouse button. Test in Blackout.  I have and tried on logitech g502 wirelles, logitech g903, steelseries 600
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 09:55 AM - 06/11/19
Yo. I also created a post that the 1 click - 1 fire weapon stops when you fast click the mouse button. Test in Blackout.  I have and tried on logitech g502 wirelles, logitech g903, steelseries 600

I can reduce the SAB trigger latency, but, it's already really close to our retail build values.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Omarf826 on 12:50 PM - 06/11/19
Yo. I also created a post that the 1 click - 1 fire weapon stops when you fast click the mouse button. Test in Blackout.  I have and tried on logitech g502 wirelles, logitech g903, steelseries 600

I can reduce the SAB trigger latency, but, it's already really close to our retail build values.

Idk what you gotta do but this is game breaking, you will get outgunned by someone whose decent in any gun fight where you have any semi-auto gun, it just shoots too slow, it doesn't register the 2nd and 3rd clicks, and every shot counts in blackout/ othe games
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: tsdbhg on 01:34 PM - 06/11/19
Yo. I also created a post that the 1 click - 1 fire weapon stops when you fast click the mouse button. Test in Blackout.  I have and tried on logitech g502 wirelles, logitech g903, steelseries 600

I can reduce the SAB trigger latency, but, it's already really close to our retail build values.

Idk what you gotta do but this is game breaking, you will get outgunned by someone whose decent in any gun fight where you have any semi-auto gun, it just shoots too slow, it doesn't register the 2nd and 3rd clicks, and every shot counts in blackout/ othe games

I have been playing with the newest beta the entire last week and use semi auto weapons a lot in multiplayer and blackout. I have never experienced this issue. There may be a hardware compatibility issue for those that are.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: BlueAid on 03:19 PM - 06/11/19
This beta should be pushed to retail, imo.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: d1sable on 04:14 PM - 06/11/19
I suspect advanced features like this will remain beta so as to not confuse or put off casual user's but i could be wrong.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 05:13 PM - 06/11/19
Idk what you gotta do but this is game breaking, you will get outgunned by someone whose decent in any gun fight where you have any semi-auto gun, it just shoots too slow, it doesn't register the 2nd and 3rd clicks, and every shot counts in blackout/ othe games

I'm not convinced that this is the cause of the issue you are hitting. We are talking about 10's of milliseconds here of added delay. I personally can't achieve more than ~7 clicks/s but perhaps you can? Can you measure it here and let us know how fast you can go?: https://cookie.riimu.net/speed
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: YogurtcuBayram on 03:17 AM - 06/12/19
I'm playing bf1 and fortnite. I've had the problem of not being able to shoot several times.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Neo1089 on 03:52 AM - 06/12/19
I switched recently from Sony Nav to Keyboard, and I play fortnite!

This means I had to enable sab (I use an ADS profile, and I have 200 SAB there, found this setting in the shared config)

What I noticed right away, is that I'm struggling to shoot 1 bullet per click.

What I mean is, when I use a rifle, sometimes I dont spam or hold the Fire button, but I precisely shoot one bullet at a time.

Now if I press my Fire button, 50% of the time, it will shoot twice, even if I pressed the Fire button once!

I'm not sure what the cause is, but this is happening since a week ago, and there were 2 major changes:

-sony nav to keyboard (and activated SAB on ADS)
-changed mouse from g502 spectrum to the new wireless g502 lightspeed

any clue what this could be?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Omarf826 on 06:14 AM - 06/12/19
I switched recently from Sony Nav to Keyboard, and I play fortnite!

This means I had to enable sab (I use an ADS profile, and I have 200 SAB there, found this setting in the shared config)

What I noticed right away, is that I'm struggling to shoot 1 bullet per click.

What I mean is, when I use a rifle, sometimes I dont spam or hold the Fire button, but I precisely shoot one bullet at a time.

Now if I press my Fire button, 50% of the time, it will shoot twice, even if I pressed the Fire button once!

I'm not sure what the cause is, but this is happening since a week ago, and there were 2 major changes:

-sony nav to keyboard (and activated SAB on ADS)
-changed mouse from g502 spectrum to the new wireless g502 lightspeed

any clue what this could be?

Here we go again, add another user thats having similar issues to the list... do you really think 10 ppl complaining about the same thing isnít convincing enough..? Ill do the click test when i get back from work, but in the mean time do you think it could be a hardware compatibility problem with the g502 wireless version? Maybe not everyone is having this issue due to their setups, but Me, and as well as other users have the same mouse, so that could be the problem, or something else got changed in the firmware thats causing it to act that way. However, firmware 320 i did not see the same issue as 603 had with the clicks... so this is tricky to comprehend atm..
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Neo1089 on 07:51 AM - 06/12/19
I didnít know other people had this issue, as I didnít read the previous posts!
I also encountered another issue, always regarding the left click, but in Build mode in fortnite, sometimes it wouldnít register my wall (someone else posted this like 7posts above this one).

And for the firing issue, if I keep pressed the Fire button all works fine, even if I spam it fast it fires correctly, but when I want ďpreciseĒ fire, so I press left mouse once each 0.5sec to tap fire in fortnite, sometimes (30-50% of the times) it would shoot 2 bullets instead of one!

When I come back home Iíll do some tests,

First Iíll remove SAB to see if that s the issue!
Then Iíll try using my previous mouse, G502 spectrum

If none of this solves the issue then it s something with the firmware!
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Neo1089 on 08:34 AM - 06/12/19
Ok small update, I just got home, and out of curiosity I checked my FW..I donít know why but I had assumed that I was on the latest..
That was not the case! iím on 320 and 315 firmwares..

So first thing Iím going to update everything and check if my issue is still there! Then Iíll update you guys!
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 09:48 AM - 06/12/19
Are any of you that experiencing gun jamming problems are you using any sort of rapid fire hardware/script?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 10:17 AM - 06/12/19
I'm sending a private build to those on here that are experiencing this gun jamming issue to try out and see how it affects the problem. Please let me know what you find.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Neo1089 on 12:26 PM - 06/12/19
so I dont seem to have any particular issue anymore after updating the firmware and the manager!

But what I noticed in a week of keyboard instead of sony nav, like every 20-30 games, I would have for 1 second in the middle of the screen : Input Blocked (Fortnite ps4), then it just goes away and nothing happens.

What does this mean?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: BlessUp on 03:23 PM - 06/12/19
I've noticed gun jamming type issues on pubg but I thought it was just because the games low and inconsistent fps along with lack of action queuing was the cause of this. I have 2 Xim apex if you send me the private build I can compare the private vs latest beta to see if I notice any differences.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 03:30 PM - 06/12/19
I've noticed gun jamming type issues on pubg but I thought it was just because the games low and inconsistent fps along with lack of action queuing was the cause of this. I have 2 Xim apex if you send me the private build I can compare the private vs latest beta to see if I notice any differences.

Sure, I'll send it over to you. :)
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: LeMiiRx on 04:10 PM - 06/12/19
Iam playing rainbow six siege and sometimes iam having gun jamming issue
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Wxstrn- on 12:15 AM - 06/13/19
Can confirm gun jamming issue on single shot guns, also there is a movement delay. I know that it could be key rollover but it did not do this on last vet. It did however on the one before that. Itís weird. Config seem inconsistent on this beta in correlation with movement as well. If I reset sometimes itíll fee ok but other times... well most of the time the delay is there.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 12:28 AM - 06/13/19
Can confirm gun jamming issue on single shot guns, also there is a movement delay. I know that it could be key rollover but it did not do this on last vet. It did however on the one before that. Itís weird. Config seem inconsistent on this beta in correlation with movement as well. If I reset sometimes itíll fee ok but other times... well most of the time the delay is there.

What is the last firmware you tried that you didn't experience this movement delay?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Wxstrn- on 02:07 AM - 06/13/19
The micro adjustments feel pretty nice in this game and the mouse feels solid for the most part. Way better than the last two builds. The profiles seem to change or feel different on this one without a reset, or reload. It's funny that the mouse is perfect on this one almost! However, the movement is off. Whereas, the last two builds the movement was spot on but I couldnt win a gun fight to save my life.

Tbh, I know this is general as an answer.... But, build 204,119, and 109 felt great.
From now on I will start recording my findings more.
Now I don't know what to do as I can only downgrade to manger version 315 or vanilla. Hmm.
I can use PC but I like using my phone.

My aiming on this build is spot on. I feel like this is almost there! Just I keep loosing control of my character movement and dying. lol.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Omarf826 on 02:49 AM - 06/13/19
The micro adjustments feel pretty nice in this game and the mouse feels solid for the most part. Way better than the last two builds. The profiles seem to change or feel different on this one without a reset, or reload. It's funny that the mouse is perfect on this one almost! However, the movement is off. Whereas, the last two builds the movement was spot on but I couldnt win a gun fight to save my life.

Tbh, I know this is general as an answer.... But, build 204,119, and 109 felt great.
From now on I will start recording my findings more.
Now I don't know what to do as I can only downgrade to manger version 315 or vanilla. Hmm.
I can use PC but I like using my phone.

My aiming on this build is spot on. I feel like this is almost there! Just I keep loosing control of my character movement and dying. lol.

Exactly!! same situation i reported to osbiv based on my trial run and tests with the private beta, its like theres a input delay in the overall buttons you press. Movement is just not smooth like 320, 204, or 119(best one imo). The aiming is def solid just doesnt go well with the movement or button delay
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 10:05 AM - 06/13/19
Which game are we talking about again? Is this PUBG.

I looked at your trace (thanks for sending that) and it's perfect. There are no timing issues with your console. You are using 1000Hz. Can you please switch to 125Hz and let me know if that changes anything for you?

If this is PUBG, we have no choice, the game doesn't work with SAB fully disabled -- I have seen many reports about this. But, all the prior builds mentioned have the same SAB (or just minor tweaks).

It would really help to know if you experience this in all games for just one. And, when it happens, if you pop back out to the console dash when it's happening do you also notice this delay when pressing buttons? Without info like this, it's going to be really hard to track down because when I look at what XIM is passing to the console, there is no explanation.

Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Omarf826 on 01:08 PM - 06/13/19
Which game are we talking about again? Is this PUBG.

I looked at your trace (thanks for sending that) and it's perfect. There are no timing issues with your console. You are using 1000Hz. Can you please switch to 125Hz and let me know if that changes anything for you?

If this is PUBG, we have no choice, the game doesn't work with SAB fully disabled -- I have seen many reports about this. But, all the prior builds mentioned have the same SAB (or just minor tweaks).

It would really help to know if you experience this in all games for just one. And, when it happens, if you pop back out to the console dash when it's happening do you also notice this delay when pressing buttons? Without info like this, it's going to be really hard to track down because when I look at what XIM is passing to the console, there is no explanation.

Thanks for the help.


The only games i have tested this beta on was bo4/blackout, have yet to try apex legends or other games.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 02:11 PM - 06/13/19
What's strange here is that we have a large CoD audience (especially BO4) and this latest Beta's SAB is the same as our retail firmware, but, I haven't heard much about issues like this. But, to be sure, I'm going to put together a build that disables SAB completely. If the problem still happens, then, there isn't much else that can be changed.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: LeMiiRx on 06:36 PM - 06/13/19
In rainbow six siege while iam shooting sometimes it stops shooting can u send me private beta so i can test it
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Omarf826 on 07:15 PM - 06/13/19
Btw you guys, the manager 315 actually works with the private beta so you dont have to revert your managers back if all else fails. You can still see all the advanced options
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Algimantas87 on 09:26 PM - 06/13/19
Sometimes I have problem when I'm shooting from pistol in R6S . Most of the time its shooting fast and now very often it seems like it doesnt register all my clicks.  Mouse is pretty new rival 710.dont think its botton problem. If u can send me private beta to test would appreciate
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601]
Post by: OBsIV on 11:03 PM - 06/13/19
A new Beta build was just released. It would be great for those stating they are having movement or gun jamming issue to upgrade to it and try out completely disabling SAB (adjust the value down to 'Off') to see if it makes a difference.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601]
Post by: YogurtcuBayram on 07:14 AM - 06/15/19
I'm back to using this firmware while waiting for the ios update. I don't know why, but this firmware provides more responsive and accurate mouse movement than the private firmware
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601]
Post by: BestRyzeEu on 03:58 AM - 06/29/19
Need to roll back to this version, where is manager 603?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601]
Post by: litezzzout on 06:35 AM - 06/29/19
Please consider these two new features if possible.
1. Turn assist activation delay
2. Option to activate turn assist by default in sub config.
Thanks
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601]
Post by: OBsIV on 09:30 AM - 06/29/19
Need to roll back to this version, where is manager 603?

Why do you need to roll back?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601]
Post by: King.TmK on 10:31 AM - 06/29/19
Current one feels weird (even when making new config)
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601]
Post by: BestRyzeEu on 10:50 AM - 06/29/19
Need to roll back to this version, where is manager 603?

Why do you need to roll back?

It felt great on that version, since i switched i think there is some issue with sab update, aim feels terrible
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601]
Post by: Mooos21 on 05:31 PM - 06/29/19
Raiju: Ultimate Edition) nacon revolution 2  Is it compatible with xim  apex .....???
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601]
Post by: OPness on 03:05 AM - 06/30/19
For IOS users that don't want to wait for TestFlight and have a windows PC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_XgvJCdzu0




Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601]
Post by: BestRyzeEu on 04:50 AM - 06/30/19
I rolled back from the latest beta to this and my aim feels great again
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601]
Post by: OBsIV on 11:14 AM - 06/30/19
Need to roll back to this version, where is manager 603?

Why do you need to roll back?

It felt great on that version, since i switched i think there is some issue with sab update, aim feels terrible

SAB didn't change between these versions.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20190603] [Manager 20190601]
Post by: Lukino on 01:28 AM - 07/02/19
Would it be possible to post link for Android apk again as itís not downloading for this version. Thanks