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Title: Gamers should watch this...
Post by: antithesis on 10:01 AM - 03/16/19
I'm gonna get deep and meaningful for a minute -


Watch from approx 10.00 to 14.00. It's all about losing with grace rather than blaming the loss on someone else.

A lack of accountability is why XIM cops so much hate from those who know nothing about it and this video nails the reason behind this phenomenon.

Reflecting blame is how many gamers react when they should be owning the loss, analysing their gameplay and improving their own skills to prevent a similar outcome.

Good players lose with grace, are humble in victory and play well with others. Be that guy.
Title: Re: Gamers should watch this...
Post by: MrBrutalFrosty on 01:29 PM - 03/16/19
yup 100% agree in every way motivational speech tbh more people need to be like what this guys explaining so many excuses people make and they need to sometimes take defeat to relize with a grain of salt that there not a god or unstoppable no one is
Title: Re: Gamers should watch this...
Post by: Phil Ashio on 02:03 AM - 03/17/19
Totally, we need to stop the coddling. It's time to wipe out the poor and the weak. Anyone with a disability and making less than 120k a month needs to go. Jesus did his part to get society this far and now those values are nothing but an albatross. It's time to unburden the quality members of society with a great cleansing like a forest fire cleanses all the rot. And fat people are the worst of all. If you can't run a mile in under 9 minutes you need to be turned into paste for our pets. I'm glad somebody brought this up. I always thought the Xim forums could use a little more MAGA.
Title: Re: Gamers should watch this...
Post by: asilver on 12:03 PM - 03/18/19
Totally, we need to stop the coddling. It's time to wipe out the poor and the weak. Anyone with a disability and making less than 120k a month needs to go. Jesus did his part to get society this far and now those values are nothing but an albatross. It's time to unburden the quality members of society with a great cleansing like a forest fire cleanses all the rot. And fat people are the worst of all. If you can't run a mile in under 9 minutes you need to be turned into paste for our pets. I'm glad somebody brought this up. I always thought the Xim forums could use a little more MAGA.

I guarantee this dude sucks at games and probably canít even run a mile
Title: Re: Gamers should watch this...
Post by: Phil Ashio on 01:33 AM - 03/20/19
Totally, we need to stop the coddling. It's time to wipe out the poor and the weak. Anyone with a disability and making less than 120k a month needs to go. Jesus did his part to get society this far and now those values are nothing but an albatross. It's time to unburden the quality members of society with a great cleansing like a forest fire cleanses all the rot. And fat people are the worst of all. If you can't run a mile in under 9 minutes you need to be turned into paste for our pets. I'm glad somebody brought this up. I always thought the Xim forums could use a little more MAGA.

I guarantee this dude sucks at games and probably canít even run a mile

I'm the best there was, is, and will be and if I met you on the track and field I'd eat your @#$% out.
Title: Re: Gamers should watch this...
Post by: antithesis on 04:42 AM - 03/20/19
I guarantee this dude sucks at games and probably can’t even run a mile
Give Phil his dues, it may be a commentary on Jordan Peterson.

I don't know enough about Jordan to hold an opinion, but I plan to listen to the 6 or so podcasts Joe has done with the guy...or at least until I get bored.

Or maybe Phil's just trolling me when I post crap like this :)
Title: Re: Gamers should watch this...
Post by: piiwii on 06:32 AM - 03/20/19
Wouldnít be surprised if it was a troll. For some reason Peterson is seen as far right by many people when heís clearly not.
Title: Re: Gamers should watch this...
Post by: antithesis on 07:22 AM - 03/20/19
Wouldn’t be surprised if it was a troll. For some reason Peterson is seen as far right by many people when he’s clearly not.
I try to be apolitical, so I'm making no judgment on left or right.

I just listened to the 3 hour uncut version and the what I heard was a clever man cutting through the BS of life. They also touched on the misrepresentation of him in the media. Taken out of context, I can see a lot of what he's saying is controversial, but it's also largely based on science and psychology, not some crazy fool's opinion.

Anyway, best we not crack that chestnut. The point of the post was to be accountable...simples.
Title: Re: Gamers should watch this...
Post by: Fox McCloud on 07:28 AM - 03/20/19
Wouldnít be surprised if it was a troll. For some reason Peterson is seen as far right by many people when heís clearly not.

Unfortunately, anyone that opposes the core values and/or constructs of any particular group of people is often labeled as "the enemy" these days. And that goes for just about every political, social, and even religious group today. You can be 90% aligned with another person or group but if you deviate 10% you will often be seen as the opposition. We need to learn how to have conversations and generate positive production rather than settle for more of the same name calling, labeling, and demonizing.





Title: Re: Gamers should watch this...
Post by: piiwii on 07:34 AM - 03/20/19
Agreed. I think the far left is equally as crazy as the far right. What happened to just good old common sense. Itís like everyone needs to find themselves in some polarized extreme end of the spectrum to feel comfortable.
Title: Re: Gamers should watch this...
Post by: asilver on 11:11 AM - 03/20/19
Totally, we need to stop the coddling. It's time to wipe out the poor and the weak. Anyone with a disability and making less than 120k a month needs to go. Jesus did his part to get society this far and now those values are nothing but an albatross. It's time to unburden the quality members of society with a great cleansing like a forest fire cleanses all the rot. And fat people are the worst of all. If you can't run a mile in under 9 minutes you need to be turned into paste for our pets. I'm glad somebody brought this up. I always thought the Xim forums could use a little more MAGA.

I guarantee this dude sucks at games and probably canít even run a mile

I'm the best there was, is, and will be and if I met you on the track and field I'd eat your @#$% out.

You wish
Title: Re: Gamers should watch this...
Post by: Phil Ashio on 12:47 PM - 03/20/19
Okay, I have to apologize for some of the earlier remarks I made. In my previous post I said, "And fat people are the worst of all." This was completely wrong of me and way out of line. I in no way intended to imply that fatties are people. They are the embodiment of weakness and lack of self discipline and should be turned into a fuel source.

Alright, alright, alright... now that I've gotten that out of my system.


Wouldnít be surprised if it was a troll. For some reason Peterson is seen as far right by many people when heís clearly not.
I try to be apolitical, so I'm making no judgment on left or right.

I just listened to the 3 hour uncut version and the what I heard was a clever man cutting through the BS of life. They also touched on the misrepresentation of him in the media. Taken out of context, I can see a lot of what he's saying is controversial, but it's also largely based on science and psychology, not some crazy fool's opinion.

Anyway, best we not crack that chestnut. The point of the post was to be accountable...simples.

Here's the thing: I've been keenly aware for a while now how the Xim forums have avoided the BS politics that seems inescapable everywhere else on the internet and in daily life. I like these forums because we can agree or argue passionately about things that don't really matter but matter to us. It felt like there was an unspoken rule of don't track your nonsense into this house.

I feel that Jordan Peterson is that nonsense. Right of the bat he goes into blaming @#$% parenting on the left. I have multiple people close in my life who are vehement Trump supporters who are guilty of exactly the thing he talks about. Personally, I agree with more things with Jordan Peterson than I disagree with but he's known for playing into divisive politics and there's a reason why he's been adopted by the right as their guy.

This isn't a left or right thing. If someone posted a Bill Maher video blaming something that has no political boundaries on the right I would have found it just as equally distasteful.

And in all honesty, I think Jordan Peterson is a pretentious douche. He's the kind of guy who thinks presenting something obvious and common sense using words with as many syllables as possible makes him sound profound. It's a similar thing that I can't stand Bill Maher for.

Bottom line. I wish forum members would be more aware of what has a political stink on it and try and keep it out of here. I get sometimes politics cross with videogames and then it's unavoidable but in this case you could have used someone more apolitical like David Goggins to make the same points about accountability, responsibility, and self discipline.

Title: Re: Gamers should watch this...
Post by: asilver on 01:24 PM - 03/20/19
On JRE they talk about the same 10 things on repeat. Itís entertaining on select episodes but it isnít going to make you a better gamer. I agree with Phil, Jordan is a twat and thereís nothing wrong with fat shaming. If youíre going to eat fast food you might as well shoot some heroin while youíre at it. But I still guarantee you suck at games. That much is a given.
Title: Re: Gamers should watch this...
Post by: antithesis on 05:08 PM - 03/20/19
Bottom line. I wish forum members would be more aware of what has a political stink on it and try and keep it out of here. I get sometimes politics cross with videogames and then it's unavoidable but in this case you could have used someone more apolitical like David Goggins to make the same points about accountability, responsibility, and self discipline.
All good points Phil. However, Jordan Peterson is not well-known in Australia, I don't watch TV (news is depressing) and this is my first exposure to him. There was nothing political about the post.

I was puzzled by your response, so I had to dig around to find out why and the penny dropped on your comment. Also, to be fair, being the poster child for a political group does not necessarily reflect on that person's own values, which is plain as day if you consume the full Rogan podcast. Taylor Swift is a right-wing sweetheart and had to "come out" as being a lefty.

Forget the man (I didn't know who he was) and focus on the message - be accountable and stop blaming others. The context is gamers who don't use a XIM but blame their losses on it to the detriment of our community when it's really a lack of skill to blame. Teaspoon deep stuff, let's leave the politics at the door.

I still suck while using a XIM, but at least I know it's me and not the guy on the other end of the bullet at fault ;) I didn't need Jordan Peterson or David Goggins (again, my only exposure to him is via a Joe Rogan podcast) to tell me that, but it seems a lot of people have skipped the life lesson on accountability and could benefit from some plain truths. It's the message not the mouthpiece that matters.
Title: Re: Gamers should watch this...
Post by: Antec800 on 06:12 PM - 03/20/19
Iím going to add this in also, after playing with a good amount of xim players a lot of them havenít ever used a kb and mouse, they were controller users and wanted to get a xim for a advantage except they are sub par with a kb and mouse and end up complaining about st/game.
Title: Re: Gamers should watch this...
Post by: piiwii on 07:12 PM - 03/20/19
There was no way Jordan Peterson's name was being brought up without this descending into hell haha.

Before I even knew who Rogan was I heard him described by the far left as some racist a-hole. Then I found out what he was really like and thought...hyperbole much? I heard the same thing about Peterson so this time I forced myself to watch some of his interviews just to hear some views from "the other side". As much as I hate having to listen to the incoherent ramblings of a right winger, I like to give differing opinions a chance, and was again surprised to hear most of the mud being slung at him was just hyperbole. Keep in mind that at the time I would have described myself as leaning far left, but after seeing just how crazy people are I've moderated some and consider myself just left of centre.

If Rogan can be framed as a racist right winger, then it made me realise that this type of discussion is always certainly not going to end well because everyone feels the need to be backed into a corner for whatever @#$% reason. We're already seeing the corners formed in this thread. As long as someone hasn't found themselves backed into a corner then everything they say should be given the time of day, valid or not. I don't consider Peterson someone who has backed himself into some ideological corner (well, except for his views on religion).

EDIT: and yes morons on the extreme right have made Peterson their poster boy but that's hardly his fault. I disagree with a lot of what he says too (I was watching some stuff of his about religion and couldn't stop rolling my eyes), but you don't pick and choose who your fans are.
Title: Re: Gamers should watch this...
Post by: asilver on 07:45 AM - 03/21/19
I donít care about politics. Any president is gonna have problems, you canít control that. Obviously this one is practically brain dead and my left nut could do a better job. Just goes to show how much stupidity is out there. Iím supposed to reason with these people? No thanks.

Psychology is based on studies. Studies are usually nonsense. Go read up on how studies are made. Itís kinda hilarious. Itís a big part of why you see any possible opinion for any real problem. Like what is a healthy diet for example. No one is giving the best possible advice for anything.

I donít see why you all care so much about what console gamers think (or donít think) about xim. If thatís how you want to spend your time, knock yourself out I guess. In my experience no one cares. Whatís the point?

 

Title: Re: Gamers should watch this...
Post by: antithesis on 08:08 AM - 03/21/19
The only reason to care is if game developers listen to these idiots and work towards blocking the XIM.

None have, so we don't have any genuine reason to worry, but if enough people make enough noise, something might happen.

That, I care about. The opinions of the bleating masses, not at all. There is no cure for stupidity.
Title: Re: Gamers should watch this...
Post by: asilver on 09:18 AM - 03/21/19
I wouldnít lose any sleep over it. The day they ban xim users is the day corporations decide they have enough money. You think one day theyíll say ď letís do what these trolls on reddit tell usĒ? There will never be enough people complaining about such a insignificant thing. People are going to stop buying games because of a adapter? Sure.

This is all related to Jordan Peterson and politics? Sure.