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Title: This new bo4 update is making me get little to no target assist @OBsIV READ THIS
Post by: Ruhward on 09:14 AM - 12/16/18
Ever since this new update has launched, I am getting the worst aim assist ever. I don't know if it's because of the new ads sensitivity feature they added to the game, but I NEVER had this problem. I've played pros for money already in this game and beat them no problem. WHEN IS THERE GOING TO BE AN UPDATE FOR THIS GAME ON THE XIM MANAGER?! I've haven't got an update for it yet, so I'm most likely sure that's the reason for all of this.
Title: Re: This new bo4 update is making me get little to no target assist @OBsIV READ THIS
Post by: mist4fun on 09:49 AM - 12/16/18
Welcome to the community. There have been no changes to the game look mechanic so there is no need to update support at the moment. You're not alone though, there are other players complaining about the recent aim assist changes. I recommend voicing your opinion in the channels that the game developer follows such as the game's reddit or social media.
Title: Re: This new bo4 update is making me get little to no target assist @OBsIV READ THIS
Post by: Tony Venom on 12:49 PM - 12/16/18
I agree that the look mechanics are still the same, but the movement speeds and who knows what else seems to be out of wack. We all understand you guys are constantly busy but we'd appreciate if you revisited the smart translator and considered a retrain of it to see whats really been changed. Thanks!
Title: Re: This new bo4 update is making me get little to no target assist @OBsIV READ THIS
Post by: Ruhward on 11:31 PM - 12/16/18
I agree because something has definitely been changed. It doesn't feel the same as it used to be.
Title: Re: This new bo4 update is making me get little to no target assist @OBsIV READ THIS
Post by: Spyke_357 on 02:45 AM - 12/17/18
Wouldn't a retrain of the ST be necessary seeing as the ads  max turn speed would have changed?...
Title: Re: This new bo4 update is making me get little to no target assist @OBsIV READ THIS
Post by: AkyyUK on 05:58 AM - 12/17/18
Wouldn't a retrain of the ST be necessary seeing as the ads  max turn speed would have changed?...

Thats what i was thinking too^^
Title: Re: This new bo4 update is making me get little to no target assist @OBsIV READ THIS
Post by: mist4fun on 02:51 PM - 12/17/18
Wouldn't a retrain of the ST be necessary seeing as the ads  max turn speed would have changed?...

ADS was retrained over the weekend and there were no changes to the look mechanic. I've talked about it over here:

https://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=73247.msg733982#msg733982

I'll need to take a look at which values to use now.

edit: ADS Sensitivity should be set to 1.0

High Zoom Sensitivity is an unknown because the ST is not trained with a scope higher than 4x.
Title: Re: This new bo4 update is making me get little to no target assist @OBsIV READ THIS
Post by: Ruhward on 03:57 PM - 12/17/18
Wouldn't a retrain of the ST be necessary seeing as the ads  max turn speed would have changed?...

ADS was retrained over the weekend and there were no changes to the look mechanic. I've talked about it over here:

https://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=73247.msg733982#msg733982

I'll need to take a look at which values to use now.

edit: ADS Sensitivity should be set to 1.0

High Zoom Sensitivity is an unknown because the ST is not trained with a scope higher than 4x.

Multiple people are having this problem. That's is how I know something changed. Just woke up one day, got on with the SAME settings and suddenly it feels different...
Title: Re: This new bo4 update is making me get little to no target assist @OBsIV READ THIS
Post by: mist4fun on 04:40 PM - 12/17/18
Ruhward, if there are changes to the game they are not related to the look mechanics that are supported. Your Black Ops 4 config contains two Smart Translators that translate your mouse movement to stick movement. Each game is trained for 12-24 hours using computer vision to learn the game's look mechanic. The game was trained over the weekend and the ADS results match the ADS look mechanic at launch. It's important to remember that I haven't come to this conclusion based on how things feel, this is computer generated data. I recommend setting the new ADS settings to 1x for now.

There is the possibility that pre-patch the game was not using a 1.0 value for high zoom sensitivity but there is no way to know this currently. I've queued a physical copy of the game so that I can train and compare before and after the patch.

Edit: This may not be possible. A quick google search shows that you may not be able to play BO4 offline without first installing a game update. If this is the case I won't be able to train a scope comparison before and after this patch.
Title: Re: This new bo4 update is making me get little to no target assist @OBsIV READ THIS
Post by: Spyke_357 on 03:45 AM - 12/18/18
Thank you for your attention on this. It is appreciated

 But it just feels like we're not taking advantage of the new settings?
Title: Re: This new bo4 update is making me get little to no target assist @OBsIV READ THIS
Post by: mist4fun on 10:27 AM - 12/18/18
I've trained with the new settings and there is no difference from ADS Sensitivity 1x or 4x. High Zoom settings are unknown. The ADS Sensitivity setting seems to be useful to people who aren't using the max in-game Hip sensitivity.
Title: Re: This new bo4 update is making me get little to no target assist @OBsIV READ THIS
Post by: yaas2.0 on 04:22 AM - 12/19/18
I've trained with the new settings and there is no difference from ADS Sensitivity 1x or 4x. High Zoom settings are unknown. The ADS Sensitivity setting seems to be useful to people who aren't using the max in-game Hip sensitivity.

Mist thank you for taking the time to look into it. Itís strange that it doesnít change the change for a high hip sensitivity, if I use a controller I do feel a difference
Title: Re: This new bo4 update is making me get little to no target assist @OBsIV READ THIS
Post by: mist4fun on 10:08 AM - 12/19/18
If it adds timed acceleration then depending on how long the stick needs to be pegged to activate it the trainer may not be picking it up. I do see these reports and I would like to be able to say there is a change and I'm working on it but the before and after results are identical.
Title: Re: This new bo4 update is making me get little to no target assist @OBsIV READ THIS
Post by: Ruhward on 11:17 PM - 12/20/18
I agree that the look mechanics are still the same, but the movement speeds and who knows what else seems to be out of wack. We all understand you guys are constantly busy but we'd appreciate if you revisited the smart translator and considered a retrain of it to see whats really been changed. Thanks!

I figured out why I was getting little to no aim assist and why it was feeling weird in general. It was the firmware I was using. The newest firmware is terrible imo for bo4. I reverted back to the old firmware and I'm back to normal.
Title: Re: This new bo4 update is making me get little to no target assist @OBsIV READ THIS
Post by: OBsIV on 11:22 PM - 12/20/18
I figured out why I was getting little to no aim assist and why it was feeling weird in general. It was the firmware I was using. The newest firmware is terrible imo for bo4. I reverted back to the old firmware and I'm back to normal.

Could you tell us what version you were running but are running now?
Title: Re: This new bo4 update is making me get little to no target assist @OBsIV READ THIS
Post by: BUNGEE on 04:27 AM - 12/21/18
I agree that the look mechanics are still the same, but the movement speeds and who knows what else seems to be out of wack. We all understand you guys are constantly busy but we'd appreciate if you revisited the smart translator and considered a retrain of it to see whats really been changed. Thanks!

I figured out why I was getting little to no aim assist and why it was feeling weird in general. It was the firmware I was using. The newest firmware is terrible imo for bo4. I reverted back to the old firmware and I'm back to normal.

I experienced the same. I have a PS4 pro and was using firmware 20171004 for black ops 4, and noticed something was off compared to previous cod games using older firmwares. I decided to switch back to firmware sa3 and the difference was HUGE. I'm someone who's sensitive for small handicaps, like input delay, Unstable frame rate etcetera...
Title: Re: This new bo4 update is making me get little to no target assist @OBsIV READ THIS
Post by: Ruhward on 04:39 AM - 12/21/18
I figured out why I was getting little to no aim assist and why it was feeling weird in general. It was the firmware I was using. The newest firmware is terrible imo for bo4. I reverted back to the old firmware and I'm back to normal.

Could you tell us what version you were running but are running now?

As soon as I went back to SA3, I felt a HUGE difference with the target assist, but I felt like it was slowing me down to much on the target. So right now I'm using SA4. I'm going to try some other ones later today, but I do want to say after this update, the new firmware does not work well (for me that is).
Title: Re: This new bo4 update is making me get little to no target assist @OBsIV READ THIS
Post by: Ruhward on 04:43 AM - 12/21/18
I agree that the look mechanics are still the same, but the movement speeds and who knows what else seems to be out of wack. We all understand you guys are constantly busy but we'd appreciate if you revisited the smart translator and considered a retrain of it to see whats really been changed. Thanks!

I love how I didn't even see your comment and we both agreed on the same thing lol plus we both said "HUGE".

I figured out why I was getting little to no aim assist and why it was feeling weird in general. It was the firmware I was using. The newest firmware is terrible imo for bo4. I reverted back to the old firmware and I'm back to normal.

I experienced the same. I have a PS4 pro and was using firmware 20171004 for black ops 4, and noticed something was off compared to previous cod games using older firmwares. I decided to switch back to firmware sa3 and the difference was HUGE. I'm someone who's sensitive for small handicaps, like input delay, Unstable frame rate etcetera...
Title: Re: This new bo4 update is making me get little to no target assist @OBsIV READ THIS
Post by: PointBlankShot on 05:38 PM - 12/21/18
Ghost recon wildlands. Exact same thing. Cannot kill @#$%. It's awful. 
Title: Re: This new bo4 update is making me get little to no target assist @OBsIV READ THIS
Post by: Redacule_Edge on 06:50 AM - 01/05/19
Can someone point me in the right direction to download the sa3 firmware?
Title: Re: This new bo4 update is making me get little to no target assist @OBsIV READ THIS
Post by: The prodigy on 12:00 PM - 01/05/19
Can someone point me in the right direction to download the sa3 firmware?

https://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=51992.0