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Title: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019]
Post by: OBsIV on 11:42 AM - 10/19/18
UPDATE: Our latest official retail firmware (http://xim.tech/downloads) is no longer being blocked by EPIC. However, we will continue to provide our BETA firmware which unblocked XIM keyboard gamers on Fortnite so we can further refine the technology.

This is an updated experimental BETA firmware build designed to address the Fortnite disconnect issue for keyboard users.

Download (PC): http://cloud.xim.tech/Beta/XIMAPEXFlash-20181019-PC-BETA.exe
Download (Mac): http://cloud.xim.tech/Beta/XIMAPEXFlash-20181019-Mac-BETA.zip

Please leave your feedback here and let us know:

1) Do you get disconnects, if so, how often and how far into the game do you get?
2) How does player control feel to you?
3) Does it feel better or worse than the last BETA -- if so, how?

Flash Upgrade Instructions (instructional video (https://youtu.be/fYlwNXl-ZGw)):
1. Hold down the button on your XIM APEX
2. Plug your XIM APEX into your computer while continuing to hold the button
3. Wait for your XIM APEX's light to display blue and then release the button
4. Download and run the XIMAPEXFlash tool
5. Select Update Firmware
6. Disconnect your XIM APEX from your computer after the tool completes
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Phil Ashio on 12:11 PM - 10/19/18
Haven't commented on the last (18) beta but I've used it for a couple of hours. I don't play Fortnite but in BO4 the difference between retail and the beta wasn't even noticeable. Except in the menus where you could see the cursor drift a little. Might give this one a try later tonight.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: AMG on 12:41 PM - 10/19/18
Awesome!.

Downloading...
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 12:55 PM - 10/19/18
Haven't commented on the last (18) beta but I've used it for a couple of hours. I don't play Fortnite but in BO4 the difference between retail and the beta wasn't even noticeable. Except in the menus where you could see the cursor drift a little. Might give this one a try later tonight.

This firmware will have no effect on anything other than Fortnite. There has been talk to provide a build that works on all games which I'm willing to do and work with everyone to make it generally applicable to all games.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Gsx1400 on 01:05 PM - 10/19/18
Play two solos... no drifts, smoth,  aiming ok... I know that you dot touch aim but at every firmware with same config  diferent aim
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: FreshFridays on 01:57 PM - 10/19/18
Play two solos... no drifts, smoth,  aiming ok... I know that you dot touch aim but at every firmware with same config  diferent aim

, hey ObSIV is it recommended  to create a new config and reinput our Settings after the update ?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 02:22 PM - 10/19/18
No need to recreate configs.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Redrabbit5 on 03:12 PM - 10/19/18
No need to recreate configs.

Tested right now 20181018 , best still 1011 or 1013 , tomorrow I ll test 1019

Aim assist super strong :/
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 03:16 PM - 10/19/18
Ok, please give 1019 a try when you can -- I'd like to deprecate 1018.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: TopNotch1.0 on 03:36 PM - 10/19/18
tested 1018 on BLOPS4, WASD movement was nice and fluid, i was getting 10-15 kills solo , and also 18 kill squad, i will try 1019 today, great job OBsIV
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 03:38 PM - 10/19/18
tested 1018 on BLOPS4, WASD movement was nice and fluid, i was getting 10-15 kills solo , and also 18 kill squad, i will try 1019 today, great job OBsIV

Keep in mind that this build only changes how Fornite works. I will be creating a version that does this for all games though in the future.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: TopNotch1.0 on 03:49 PM - 10/19/18
tested 1018 on BLOPS4, WASD movement was nice and fluid, i was getting 10-15 kills solo , and also 18 kill squad, i will try 1019 today, great job OBsIV

Keep in mind that this build only changes how Fornite works. I will be creating a version that does this for all games though in the future.

should i be using 0501 firmware then, if these beta firmware doesnt apply to any other game ?

should i be using
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: moniray on 04:16 PM - 10/19/18
Everything feels god but AA feels really strong i havent played anything after the problems started when i got kicked first time this is the first firmware i tried
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: CxDom on 04:16 PM - 10/19/18
Hey, any reason why i cant change my sync or hz on the manager app? i upgraded to this firmware and the option just dissappears?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: mist4fun on 04:21 PM - 10/19/18
Expert mode must be enabled for these to be visible.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Newbophobia on 04:22 PM - 10/19/18
Hey Obsiv, so I have tried all of the beta firmwares on fortnite. Firmware 20181019 feels the best with 1018 a very close second. I have also tested these firmwares on the new Black Ops 4 and it performs very well on that as well. The analog type movement has affected the aim assist in a favorable way and I can't thank you enough for your efforts and I look forward to future firmwares for other games especially Black Ops 4

Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: CxDom on 04:30 PM - 10/19/18
Thanks
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Sunbrokerx on 04:31 PM - 10/19/18
I think we are coming to the end so slowly :)
A difference to the 1018 is touchable, but can not say exactly what it is.
I get along well with the 1019.

GJ OBsiV
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 04:40 PM - 10/19/18
Thanks everyone for the feedback. :-)
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Fidan on 04:55 PM - 10/19/18
I've been testing these beta  since the release and I have to say it feels great! :) Good work :)
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: FreshFridays on 05:03 PM - 10/19/18
No need to recreate configs.

Tested right now 20181018 , best still 1011 or 1013 , tomorrow I ll test 1019

Aim assist super strong :/

THE aim assist was strong for you  on 18 or 19 ?
Iím on 18 but gonna switch to 19 later on today 🎃  Anyone els change their right stick deadzone ? What are you guys dead zones ?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: BlessUp on 05:04 PM - 10/19/18
Ill skip this for now as I dont play fortnite much compared to pubg and Id rather test the effects of these builds across multiple games because I tend to be an over thinker and untrusting of outcomes I dont have full control of, so I overall feel a bit safer utilizing anything possible to help maintain the joy of gaming in the style I prefer.     Ill gladly test the next release you do that works across all configs.

My fear is (and may just be paranoia) but due to so many squeakers blaming every loss on keyboard and mouse that the developers are going to try and appease the masses and categorize the xim as a cheating device. Even though from its very conception you have maintained a clear path that it will not cross those lines by purposely rejecting to add features like scripting and macros. In my mind you have maintained a level of integrity keeping your product a  translation device allowing the user to utilize controls that best suit each individuals play style. With the insane vast majority of controllers to choose from with button programming, paddles, racing wheels, joy pads, you name it I can't believe people don't see this device for what it really is and try to tarnish its rep and what it stands for. Ive been with you from the days we built the device and run through pc, to modifying the actually controller, and I will continue to support you as long as you choose to maintain your product.  what you have accomplished and are still doing is nothing short of astonishing.

 Me personally would have never made the switch from pc to console had it not been for your genius work and dedication. I feel some devices out there do enter the realm of cheating and should be circumvented if possible.  Examples would be turbo controllers, controllers with macros, and scripting especially those like anti recoil.

Where I'm getting at with all this is the fact that they have taken some actions to detect devices and many especially blizzard has said keyboard and mouse is in violation to there terms. They may try to utilize their skill set to begin enforcing their terms and taking actions against what they deem violations.  Typically you would see instances like this on pc where they would start to run soft hits while they are monitoring and gathering data until they have enough solid evidence to issue the ban wave which comes in one big swoop usually via next update or patch ect....   

Me personally due to this would feel more comfortable utilizing your skill set OBsiV and stick to this new more randomized left joystick output in order to increase the odds of falling under any possible detection running the better safe than sorry route. My concern is that with computers there is no true randomness and over a big enough data collection field and data analytics on top of them most likely possessing the device monitoring the direct outputs will no doubt be able to find a way to fully detect said devices if they so wish. In all honestly they would simply need to start with all users who max out sensitivity because how many controller users actually do this. I bet its @#$% near 0%.  I understand the use of native controller to filter inputs from other devices making it look as though they are coming from a standard controller. But I can only imagine due to 4 digital keys vs a very wide range of analog input that its easily detectable. For now im hoping your able to randomize that digital input into what appears to be an inconsistent and natural analog input to hide detection. I feel analog keyboard in conjunction with this will help increase the randomness and make it appear as true to standard stick input as possible.

In all reality this is probably far fetched and these devs have enough issues trying to maintain their own software I doubt they are going to spend the time and resources to go all out on something like this but, I still wouldn't let your guard down.  There is a chance they do this in batches like every 2 years or 4 years so their main database of cry baby everyone gets a trophy users actually see a ban wave happen and will continue to stick around and be loyal to their brand due to this. I could see a gaming company use this to their advantage to try and drive more users to their game stating its a more even playing field and that they strictly enforce their terms of service.  PC did this with very competitive games like Counter Strike with paid for servers with stronger anti cheats like ESEA ect...

All that being said please let me know what I can do to help I for one love that fact that I can play with my vast majority of friends on hardware im more comfortable with in a way more secure environment than what pc has become where every noob can download an app and become an insta god completely ruining games in the process.

Umm  man sorry for that ramble if you made it this far I will say that I noticed right away when 1013 was released aim assist felt stronger but 1018 cleaned it up and gave a good balance of wasd control and aim assist. I have a feeling the debate that has been going on is true that analog left stick does have an effect on aim assist and for what I can tell the better. I Just received the wooting keyboard so I have also been testing in conjunction with it. Ill continue to help give any feed back I can as a communicative effort to make this the best it can be. 

You sir are much appreciated. 

BlessUp
👊😉
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 05:40 PM - 10/19/18
Thanks BlessUp. I agree with you, and, what's ridiculous is the number of XIM users compared to the number of gamers that play these AAA games. We are literally a fraction of a percent of their total user base. PUBG is even more ridiculous since from our analytics hardly anyone with a XIM plays. And you are right, the issue is people automatically blaming their loss online to everything other than their own skill. It's impossible for them to think any other way. So, they complain incessantly to the game maker which compels the developer to take steps like EPIC did which resulted in the targeting of the most vulnerable and marginalized group of gamers there are: disabled gamers. I've had many PMs from people with disabilities or relatives of them over the years thanking me for giving them the ability to play with their friends like any other normal person would. It changes their lives. So here we are, and I assure you, I'm going to do all I can to ensure this doesn't happen to them again.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: salihyildiz on 05:41 PM - 10/19/18
this update is amazing.

But what i noticed when i want to change my inventory with (x) ps4, its just double xx maybe thats because my keyboard is broke, or is that from the update?

Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: marinetroics on 06:57 PM - 10/19/18
2 questions.
1. this beta firmware only affects the Fortnite profiles/setting?
2. Why do you want to make this type of firmware apply to all other games for the future? in case game makers do this kind of stuff to us on other games in the future?

Also I have 2 XIM Apexs. I've been using one just for fortnite because i didn't want any of my other profiles to be affected. maybe i dont need to do this.

I am extremely confused about something. Are we supposed to re-download a Fortnite profile as a new one??? I downloaded a new fortnite profile cause I wanted to have setting different on them and the old one I had on the xim seems very bad. The aiming is not good at all and the sensitivity between the two are a huge difference apart to achieve the same aim speed. whats going on here???
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: N1TRO on 07:48 PM - 10/19/18
Would the process of applying this to other games be complicated or not. I assumed from the beggining that the firmware basically changes the 8 directional 100% input and randomises the levels of joysick pegged percentage for each click. I would ask more questions but i have a feeling people will be looking at the forums for information now. I think the introduction of the system would be great on any game to save the whinning people before they begin. I cant imagine the amount of uproar that came from the fortnite ban but assumably it was pretty irritating.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 08:14 PM - 10/19/18
Would the process of applying this to other games be complicated or not. I assumed from the beggining that the firmware basically changes the 8 directional 100% input and randomises the levels of joysick pegged percentage for each click. I would ask more questions but i have a feeling people will be looking at the forums for information now.

No, it would be easy to apply to the other games. Concerning what it does, you are right, I'm not going to disclose it here. But, I can say that it's a very complex system whose complexity is only beat by that of the aiming translation system.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: FreshFridays on 10:56 PM - 10/19/18
I tested 19.... the aim assist feels awesome !
Movement is great ! No kicks .
Xbox Na West player , Gt: xFRESH FRIDAYSx
Letís lobby ;)
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 12:31 AM - 10/20/18
Thanks for the feedback -- I think this is enough to know this is a solid build and will replace 1018. I'll release for XIM4 and Mac flash tool tomorrow. Thanks again. :)
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Abdulwaa on 01:42 AM - 10/20/18
Thanks ObSiv. Even though these updates don't apply to anything other than Fortnite I really appreciate the fast work. I havent' played fortnite since the start of S6, and don't plan on after hearing about this garbage they are pulling. BO4 and Red Dead Redemption are enough for me.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Db23 on 03:30 AM - 10/20/18
UPDATE: Our latest official retail firmware (http://xim.tech/downloads) is no longer being blocked by EPIC. However, we will continue to provide our BETA firmware which unblocked XIM keyboard gamers on Fortnite so we can further refine the technology.

This is an updated experimental BETA firmware build designed to address the Fortnite disconnect issue for keyboard users.

Download (PC): http://cloud.xim.tech/Beta/XIMAPEXFlash-20181019-PC-BETA.exe
Download (Mac): Not yet available.

Please leave your feedback here and let us know:

1) Do you get disconnects, if so, how often and how far into the game do you get?
2) How does player control feel to you?
3) Does it feel better or worse than the last BETA -- if so, how?

Flash Upgrade Instructions (instructional video (https://youtu.be/fYlwNXl-ZGw)):
1. Hold down the button on your XIM APEX
2. Plug your XIM APEX into your computer while continuing to hold the button
3. Wait for your XIM APEX's light to display blue and then release the button
4. Download and run the XIMAPEXFlash tool
5. Select Update Firmware
6. Disconnect your XIM APEX from your computer after the tool completes


Been playing on build 16, Link stopped working after a couple sessions, everything been working for months and only 2 sessions on 16 and now cable not found error, anyone else have this problem? Updating hasnt fixed.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Goopy on 04:43 AM - 10/20/18
@#$% I miss having a windows computer  :'(
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Herculis on 04:48 AM - 10/20/18
I would like to thank the whole XIM team for the great work and specially their fast response in developing updates to keep us playing. I just switched from the beta edition of 1013 to the latest original  update 501. I kinda feel that the aim is slightly different, but can you confirm that there is no way aiming is different? maybe it is just my mind trying to convince  me there is! while there is no change in term of aim!
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: dr_soldier on 06:41 AM - 10/20/18
Thanks OBsIV for the awesome work ! This version is very similar to the 1018 and it feels very smooth.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Seanren23 on 09:06 AM - 10/20/18
So we can go back to the retail firmware and not worry about getting kicked out anymore? All of the betas have worked well for me. But they have that slight drift which drive a ocd man crazy
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: nutnsbolts on 09:28 AM - 10/20/18
For what it's worth, I did revert back to the original gold version (the one that was kicking everyone). Definitely fixed so I can confirm that 100% it's no longer kicking.

I guess the question I have between the original and the 20181019 version. Would it suffice to say it's better than the gold version or is there a slight advantage/disadvantage between the two? Obviously, there is the "anti-kick, future proof fix" with 20181019. Would this replace the original gold version? Or will it be a choice since there is a slight difference.

I can't tell for the life of me between the two but I wish it was just simply black and white and not a gray area. :)
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: blankcloud on 09:43 AM - 10/20/18
When will the MAC version be available. How much longer do we have to wait?  :-\
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 09:49 AM - 10/20/18
When will the MAC version be available. How much longer do we have to wait?  :-\

It will be released today.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: N1TRO on 10:09 AM - 10/20/18
Can i ask what the changes actually are in this latest firmware compared to the 18 version?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Xdrqgol on 11:05 AM - 10/20/18
@OBsIV

I would recommend everyone who plays Fortnite to play with the BETA firmware due to the fact that EPIC rolled back their anti-XIM fix. They are trying to debug it even more thus , using the old firmware will expose more data.

Maybe I am wrong, but I think that is the reason why they undo their initial fix anti-XIM, so they can debug it even more and maybe make another fix for it that could block XIM for good.

Also maybe you could make a Locked thread so everyone reads this...ofc if you think is necessary.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Undetected on 11:11 AM - 10/20/18
Thats actually really scary, how would they detect Xim if it basically uses the controller input speed numerals now? They cant i just dont see it happening.. But it is Epic Games, i really hope its impossible at this point. I spent way too much money on this game to just suck with a dang anolog stick. And ya whats the difference between the 19 beta and 18?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: tmoula on 11:58 AM - 10/20/18
Me and my brother test beta 19 more hours but we fill beat 18 is best at aim assist we can kill fast no miss
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Xdrqgol on 12:03 PM - 10/20/18
Thats actually really scary, how would they detect Xim if it basically uses the controller input speed numerals now? They cant i just dont see it happening.. But it is Epic Games, i really hope its impossible at this point. I spent way too much money on this game to just suck with a dang anolog stick. And ya whats the difference between the 19 beta and 18?

if they initially kicked us from the game while using the original firmware, I bet they can still detect us if WE ARE USING THE OLD ONE AGAIN.

IF WE ARE USING THE BETA FIRMWARE, we should be fine. That was my point, that we should all use BETA firmware...
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: shthappensbro on 12:14 PM - 10/20/18
When will the MAC version be available. How much longer do we have to wait?  :-\

It will be released today.


Should I update to 19 ? But can I still play bo4 with no issues? I jump to game to game ? What do you think ? I play black ops 4 more atm haven't played fortnite in like 2 weeks or 3 I'm still on the solid build
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Xdrqgol on 12:18 PM - 10/20/18
When will the MAC version be available. How much longer do we have to wait?  :-\

It will be released today.


Should I update to 19 ? But can I still play bo4 with no issues? I jump to game to game ? What do you think ? I play black ops 4 more atm haven't played fortnite in like 2 weeks or 3 I'm still on the solid build

You should be ok with 19 as well ... but people already tested 19 so you can continue staying on 18. if you want to help and upgrade to 19 and if you find something weird,come back and report it here.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 12:53 PM - 10/20/18
Mac firmware tool now available.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Xdrqgol on 01:17 PM - 10/20/18
Thanks a lot OBsIV for the awesome work , would also like to point that beta 18 feels much much better.

Had 50 games with Beta 18
Had 50 games with Beta 19

Beta 18 is pure accurate....any chances we can keep it? :D
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: shthappensbro on 02:09 PM - 10/20/18
Mac firmware tool now available.

So I can use this firmware on other games like BO4 and PUBG ?or just fortnite??
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 02:31 PM - 10/20/18
Mac firmware tool now available.

So I can use this firmware on other games like BO4 and PUBG ?or just fortnite??

You can use this on other games, but, it won't be any different than our retail firmware for those games. Some members wanted to try this out on other games as well, but, that'll be a future build.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: shthappensbro on 02:34 PM - 10/20/18
Alright I'm updating to this then playing some bo4
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: FreshFridays on 05:16 PM - 10/20/18
Thanks a lot OBsIV for the awesome work , would also like to point that beta 18 feels much much better.

Had 50 games with Beta 18
Had 50 games with Beta 19

Beta 18 is pure accurate....any chances we can keep it? :D


How do I go back to 18 with my old configs thatís I backed up?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Redrabbit5 on 05:20 PM - 10/20/18
After a month over fortnite ST , to make it smooth and higher my accuracy , now I feel my aiming stuck in middle of bubbles , like time ago , is just so bad , tried to write some ballistic curves without any result , aim assist come so stronger and hard skip over it when I need .
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Racinette on 05:35 PM - 10/20/18
Hello, I apologize if this isnt the appropriate place to post this but I am just wondering If the Xim4 will ever be updated for fortnite. Much appreciated.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Redrabbit5 on 06:12 PM - 10/20/18
Mac firmware tool now available.

So I can use this firmware on other games like BO4 and PUBG ?or just fortnite??

You can use this on other games, but, it won't be any different than our retail firmware for those games. Some members wanted to try this out on other games as well, but, that'll be a future build.

I have some chance to go back to 20181011 ? ? ? I mean I still have backup and flashtool
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: shthappensbro on 08:23 PM - 10/20/18
Mac firmware tool now available.

So I can use this firmware on other games like BO4 and PUBG ?or just fortnite??

You can use this on other games, but, it won't be any different than our retail firmware for those games. Some members wanted to try this out on other games as well, but, that'll be a future build.


So far on 19 haven't noticed nothing on bo4 getting 60 kills with 15 deaths man
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 10:01 PM - 10/20/18
Hello, I apologize if this isnt the appropriate place to post this but I am just wondering If the Xim4 will ever be updated for fortnite. Much appreciated.

This was released for XIM4 today.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: ilkre4 on 10:18 PM - 10/20/18
I seem to be having  the aim assist troubles too.

Super sticky and can't get out of the bubble. AR can't laser anyone anymore and even close range shotguns it's sticking and not allowing me to correct it onto the enemy players.


What settings are people using for these? I'm currently using 18. I'm using 1000hz on both and 4k dpi with 15 hip and no ads profile
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: antithesis on 10:49 PM - 10/20/18
Thanks for the Mac flash tool. I'll play around with it over the next couple of days and shoot through some feedback :)
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Xdrqgol on 03:10 AM - 10/21/18
Mac firmware tool now available.

So I can use this firmware on other games like BO4 and PUBG ?or just fortnite??

You can use this on other games, but, it won't be any different than our retail firmware for those games. Some members wanted to try this out on other games as well, but, that'll be a future build.

I have some chance to go back to 20181011 ? ? ? I mean I still have backup and flashtool

Yes you can, hold the xim apex button, plugg it in your computer, the run the xxxxx-11 beta firmware and presd restore to factory defaults and it will get you back to xxxxx-11
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Od1n on 03:58 AM - 10/21/18
I seem to be having  the aim assist troubles too.

Super sticky and can't get out of the bubble. AR can't laser anyone anymore and even close range shotguns it's sticking and not allowing me to correct it onto the enemy players.


What settings are people using for these? I'm currently using 18. I'm using 1000hz on both and 4k dpi with 15 hip and no ads profile

use an ADS profile as using the HIP profile for ADS will result in mouse acceleration and other weird mouse behaviour, which increases the aim assist
also update to version 19 as it gives the better character movements

if the aim assist is still a problem after that then use some of the known tricks to reduce the aim assist, such as sync off, 3000-4000 dpi or no smoothing
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Antec800 on 02:49 PM - 10/21/18
I seem to be having  the aim assist troubles too.

Super sticky and can't get out of the bubble. AR can't laser anyone anymore and even close range shotguns it's sticking and not allowing me to correct it onto the enemy players.


What settings are people using for these? I'm currently using 18. I'm using 1000hz on both and 4k dpi with 15 hip and no ads profile

use an ADS profile as using the HIP profile for ADS will result in mouse acceleration and other weird mouse behaviour, which increases the aim assist
also update to version 19 as it gives the better character movements

if the aim assist is still a problem after that then use some of the known tricks to reduce the aim assist, such as sync off, 3000-4000 dpi or no smoothing
Wait really so many people have been saying itís better to run hip profile on the ads config no wonder I felt weird mouse movement almost all the time
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Racinette on 06:46 PM - 10/21/18
You guys are awesome
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: pa7riq on 07:52 AM - 10/22/18
19 is Perfect!!!! Thank you so much
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Xdrqgol on 08:58 AM - 10/22/18
I seem to be having  the aim assist troubles too.

Super sticky and can't get out of the bubble. AR can't laser anyone anymore and even close range shotguns it's sticking and not allowing me to correct it onto the enemy players.


What settings are people using for these? I'm currently using 18. I'm using 1000hz on both and 4k dpi with 15 hip and no ads profile

use an ADS profile as using the HIP profile for ADS will result in mouse acceleration and other weird mouse behaviour, which increases the aim assist
also update to version 19 as it gives the better character movements

if the aim assist is still a problem after that then use some of the known tricks to reduce the aim assist, such as sync off, 3000-4000 dpi or no smoothing
Wait really so many people have been saying itís better to run hip profile on the ads config no wonder I felt weird mouse movement almost all the time

how do you do this? someone care to explain?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: DrS1ck on 09:16 AM - 10/22/18
thanks for the beta updates.

i have been using version 5.00.20181014 for the past week or soo and did not really feel any difference between version 5.00.20180402 and 5.00.20181014 in terms of aiming and looking around in fortnite (atleast not to a point that it would affect how i perform in the game), i have not been kicked out of any of the games i have played since the update to 5.00.20181014 (been playing everyday for the past week or so).

However there was one problem i had ever since i started playing on 5.00.20181014 and that was, that in the game (fortnite) i would get this frames skips/drops about every few minutes or so and it was like it would skip a frame (or frame drop and then it would be fine for a few minutes, not really sure about the frequency of the timing frame drop/skip would happen) it felt like i had a packet loss of about 5% or may be less just for a second and then it would be fine (even though i had no packet loss in the game and my ping wasn't even high). i am not sure if that was a problem with fortnite itself or it was caused by xim apex's firmware however i haven't faced that problem for the past few days or so. i haven't updated to 5.00.20181019 yet but will update soon and see how it feels too.

the other game that I mainly play is battlefield 1 and i tried playing a few games on this new firmware 5.00.20181014 and did not notice and difference. i am playing Black Ops 4 these days as well on firmware 5.00.20181014 haven't had any issues with that either but can't tell much as i am a total noob in that game.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Xandar on 10:47 AM - 10/22/18
Hey guys im new to this community and wanna say thanks to the hard work!!
This beta feels  great in fortnite.

In bo4 i have the problem that when i ads it is switching on and off. So the trigger isnt going al the way down when i use my mouse. More people having this problem?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Riss51 on 09:05 PM - 10/22/18
What firmware should I use now that Epic removed the "ban" (I know it was not an actual ban) on Xim? I have been using the beta and had been enjoying it. So should I go back to the retail firmware 501? or continue using  the latest beta-version?

If anyone could also explain the pro/cons of both, I would greatly appreciate it.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Deazly on 09:47 PM - 10/22/18
What firmware should I use now that Epic removed the "ban" (I know it was not an actual ban) on Xim? I have been using the beta and had been enjoying it. So should I go back to the retail firmware 501? or continue using  the latest beta-version?

If anyone could also explain the pro/cons of both, I would greatly appreciate it.

Feel free to chime in everyone...

I'd summarize it like this.

Beta Fn Firmware: Help develop beta, possible AA increase, Possible noticeable WASD movement sway.

Retail firmware: Standard clean build.

Beta only affects Fn Game configs. Other games are currentl retail equal firmware.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Pythonz on 04:46 AM - 10/23/18
What Xim Apex manager do I need for this beta firmware?

Thanks.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Jamez on 04:50 AM - 10/23/18
What Xim Apex manager do I need for this bets firmware?

Thanks.

[MANAGER 20180528] It's the latest one.
https://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=66767.0

You can use either the latest firmware or the beta firmware, but you can still use the same manager for both.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: OBsIV on 09:31 AM - 10/23/18
Hey guys im new to this community and wanna say thanks to the hard work!!
This beta feels  great in fortnite.

Welcome to the community and thank you for trying out the Beta!
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Teckx on 01:10 PM - 10/23/18
What firmware should I use now that Epic removed the "ban" (I know it was not an actual ban) on Xim? I have been using the beta and had been enjoying it. So should I go back to the retail firmware 501? or continue using  the latest beta-version?

If anyone could also explain the pro/cons of both, I would greatly appreciate it.
what do you mean? they are no longer kicking people for using m&kb?

edit: nm.. just saw the original post of this thread.. ill stick with 19
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Deazly on 02:47 PM - 10/23/18
Getting plenty of solo wins on beta 1019. I did change my DPI. I raised it from 1200-3200 to 6000-8000. I'm a low DPI player but it feels better with a slightly higher DPI.

*shrug!*  :o
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Redrabbit5 on 04:04 PM - 10/23/18
Hey guys im new to this community and wanna say thanks to the hard work!!
This beta feels  great in fortnite.

Welcome to the community and thank you for trying out the Beta!

No BETA firmware promote to gold ?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Unmindful on 04:59 PM - 10/23/18
It works well enough, my only issue is that when navigating menus (within fortnite) it sometimes veers off. Say if I were to go into my inventory and scroll up or down, sometimes it goes diagonally up and right/left (if going up) or down and right/left (when going down). Other than that I've gotten used to the slight sway and only really notice it when I'm actively looking for it.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Deazly on 06:40 PM - 10/23/18
It works well enough, my only issue is that when navigating menus (within fortnite) it sometimes veers off. Say if I were to go into my inventory and scroll up or down, sometimes it goes diagonally up and right/left (if going up) or down and right/left (when going down). Other than that I've gotten used to the slight sway and only really notice it when I'm actively looking for it.


I think this is the only critical item with these beta builds. Menu jitter. It can be costly in the heat of battle.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: mikey1208 on 02:44 AM - 10/24/18
is the aim assist stronger with this filmware then with retail filmware?
thanks for helping!
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Antec800 on 02:56 AM - 10/24/18
is the aim assist stronger with this filmware then with retail filmware?
thanks for helping!
Yes since the moments are a bit more analog
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: CxDom on 03:12 AM - 10/24/18
more aim assist 18 or 19
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: FreshFridays on 01:52 PM - 10/24/18
more aim assist 18 or 19

I feel like 18 aim assist too strong . 19 is best for me
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: El4n on 03:16 PM - 10/24/18
is the aim assist stronger with this filmware then with retail filmware?
thanks for helping!
Yes since the moments are a bit more analog

What does this mean exactly? 

If 1) I'm using a keyboard for my movements (WASD) vs. 2) If I'm using a nav controller for my movements (such as the sony playstation 3 nav device) vs. 3) If I'm just using the left half of my PS4 controller for movement (plugged directly into my XIM) and holding it.

Among the 3 scenarios above, will the Aim Assist and translation vary in each? Would #2 and #3 be identical, or would there actually be some change to the way movement/aiming mechanic works based on using a direct controller plugged into the XIM vs. a secondary movement controller (sony nav) plugged into the XIM?

I personally use #3 above but am not sure if this is a positive or negative.

Thanks!
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: antithesis on 03:24 PM - 10/24/18
2 and 3 should feel identical - Nav and controller analog movement is the same.

1 feels different because kb input is digital, meaning movement is either 0% or 100% and restricted to 8 degrees of movement. Analog movement however is 0% to 100% along a full 360 degrees of movement.

Aim Assist affects not only right stick movements (mouse aim) but also left stick movement (WASD / Nav). Because digital WASD movement cuts right through AA, you should feel it less than using analog.

What the Fortnite beta firmwares do is make digital movement appear more analog-like (more than 8 degrees of movement and acceleration from 0 to 100%). As a result, AA will feel stronger.

AA should always feel stronger using true analog. But that's not necessarily a good thing as AA can be overpowering and prevent the reticle from breaking into or out of the hitbox. That's why you'll see anti-AA Ballistics Curves on the forums, intended to dampen the effect of AA.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Teckx on 06:22 PM - 10/24/18
Not sure why but my mouse feels more jittery and harder to make precise aiming when zoomed in at targets that are far away.  I think my mouse is at 1000hz should I lower it ?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Antec800 on 06:23 PM - 10/24/18
Not sure why but my mouse feels more jittery and harder to make precise aiming when zoomed in at targets that are far away.  I think my mouse is at 1000hz should I lower it ?
yes lower it to 500hz
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: PyranhaPete on 12:37 PM - 10/25/18
Hi all,


Just started to play on the new firmware, but the Auto Aim is like crazy! and Really Sticky.

I'm playing on 500hz and my G502 is on default 12000DPI.
Aim is on 4.0, ADS is on 2.0

What should I change? Sorry I'm pretty a beginner and configuring.


THank you!
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Landrez on 02:42 PM - 10/25/18
Does this work for xim4 also??!?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Jamez on 02:47 PM - 10/25/18
Does this work for xim4 also??!?

No you will need this firmware. https://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=71289.msg719183;boardseen#new
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: FreshFridays on 12:41 PM - 10/26/18
Anyone want to battle in playgrounds or squad up with a Xim apex team ?
Iím on beta 19 , love to see how your set up is working ,
Server - NA-WEST OR EAST ??? ::)
XBOX: xFRESH FRIDAYSx :o
Epic: SneakyGoose ;)
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Deazly on 03:07 PM - 10/26/18
Anyone want to battle in playgrounds or squad up with a Xim apex team ?
Iím on beta 19 , love to see how your set up is working ,
Server - NA-WEST OR EAST ??? ::)
XBOX: xFRESH FRIDAYSx :o
Epic: SneakyGoose ;)

Yeah I'll add you and send a message in the next few days.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Teckx on 06:36 AM - 10/27/18
Anyone want to battle in playgrounds or squad up with a Xim apex team ?
Iím on beta 19 , love to see how your set up is working ,
Server - NA-WEST OR EAST ??? ::)
XBOX: xFRESH FRIDAYSx :o
Epic: SneakyGoose ;)
Team apex.  Iíll add you
Iím east
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: ElPaso3d on 06:22 PM - 10/30/18
I have been having to disconnect and reconnect my XIM due to the left and right mouse buttons not working. They are mapped to my R2 and L2. Once a power cycle happens it will work again. there is no timing to these power cycles. Sometimes it happens 10 minutes into playing sometimes it happens after several hours.  Im using the newest BETA.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Deazly on 06:28 PM - 10/30/18
Just wanted to drop a line here on my beta testing.

Been doing very well with 1019 on Fortnite. I use 4K DPI, 1000hz g502. Xim Link. Common sync. No curve. I think this is my sweet spot and have been doing fine.

Thanks.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: litezzzout on 11:48 AM - 10/31/18
tested 1018 on BLOPS4, WASD movement was nice and fluid, i was getting 10-15 kills solo , and also 18 kill squad, i will try 1019 today, great job OBsIV

Keep in mind that this build only changes how Fornite works. I will be creating a version that does this for all games though in the future.

I can confirm this also affects other games, I'm playing bo4 with bo4 config and I can see random but still predictable drift from wasd keys on menu screen.
It would be nice if these drifts don't affect aiming while strafing.
If its possible please make wasd movement speed smoother like analog stick. If movement speed goes 0 to 100 it might also be dead give away of keyboard input.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Barret on 02:50 AM - 11/02/18
tested 1018 on BLOPS4, WASD movement was nice and fluid, i was getting 10-15 kills solo , and also 18 kill squad, i will try 1019 today, great job OBsIV

Keep in mind that this build only changes how Fornite works. I will be creating a version that does this for all games though in the future.

I can confirm this also affects other games, I'm playing bo4 with bo4 config and I can see random but still predictable drift from wasd keys on menu screen.
It would be nice if these drifts don't affect aiming while strafing.
If its possible please make wasd movement speed smoother like analog stick. If movement speed goes 0 to 100 it might also be dead give away of keyboard input.

Predictable drift from wasd keys on menu screen.?

on aiming is better o worse on bo4?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Abdulwaa on 01:31 AM - 11/03/18
These do not affect BO4. The BO4 servers are trash, along with the tick rate. Just make sure to hop into your first server connect and don't allow the game to expand search for servers.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: swedishhousemafiaa on 12:39 PM - 11/09/18
Hi guys,

So which version is actually best to use? Retail or Beta?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: antithesis on 03:50 PM - 11/09/18
Hi guys,

So which version is actually best to use? Retail or Beta?
Retail works in all games. Your choice comes down to Aim Assist - if you want more, go with the beta. If you want less, go with retail.

The reason you get more AA is because left-stick analog movement has an effect that can't be felt on digital WASD. The beta firmware makes WASD more analog-like and exhibits more AA as a result.

AA can be friend or foe, depending on the game, so try both and go with the FW you prefer.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: LexusSpeed03 on 06:41 PM - 11/09/18
So I have been testing and coming to this firmware. So has the retail been updated so you don't get kicked cause this beta feels horrible with a 1:1 on mouse movements. It is very sloppy and lags behind. I thought this was only the left joystick needed to be modified so fortnite would not detect?

Would love someone to clarify if going back to retail firmware will experience kicks.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: antithesis on 07:53 PM - 11/09/18
Epic removed the digital input detection, the retail FW works perfectly.

Left-stick movement can affect aim assist, depending on the game. That may be what you're experiencing as the right-stick aim mechanics were untouched in the beta firmware.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: swedishhousemafiaa on 05:16 AM - 11/10/18
Epic removed the digital input detection, the retail FW works perfectly.

Left-stick movement can affect aim assist, depending on the game. That may be what you're experiencing as the right-stick aim mechanics were untouched in the beta firmware.

So which is better for Fortnite? Retail or Beta?
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Khaled87 on 10:07 AM - 11/11/18
Epic removed the digital input detection, the retail FW works perfectly.

Left-stick movement can affect aim assist, depending on the game. That may be what you're experiencing as the right-stick aim mechanics were untouched in the beta firmware.

hey!

can you refer me please to which retail version you mean.
last released non beta firmware, 20180501?

downloaded the flash tool, but it's not letting me "downgrading" since I have apparently a newer (beta) version.
only way around is to factory reset? and then I need to manually reinstall the profiles?

Thanks!
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Antec800 on 10:13 AM - 11/11/18
Epic removed the digital input detection, the retail FW works perfectly.

Left-stick movement can affect aim assist, depending on the game. That may be what you're experiencing as the right-stick aim mechanics were untouched in the beta firmware.

hey!

can you refer me please to which retail version you mean.
last released non beta firmware, 20180501?

downloaded the flash tool, but it's not letting me "downgrading" since I have apparently a newer (beta) version.
only way around is to factory reset? and then I need to manually reinstall the profiles?

Thanks!
Yes you must factory reset and no you donít have to redownload snd reconfigure your profiles just back them up on your desktop before you reset
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: joeljmnz on 03:40 AM - 11/12/18
Having an issue where left click will randomly start firing without me clicking. It seems it goes away randomly. Happened in Fortnite, had to switch to something not so loud, haha. Any idea? I will also have to power on and off as sometimes the mouse isnít recognized.
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019] (**LATEST**)
Post by: Od1n on 01:30 PM - 11/12/18
Having an issue where left click will randomly start firing without me clicking. It seems it goes away randomly. Happened in Fortnite, had to switch to something not so loud, haha. Any idea? I will also have to power on and off as sometimes the mouse isnít recognized.

it could be a power fault problem or the mouse itself, to better track this issue just create a new topic in the support forum :)
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019]
Post by: TroyMuni on 03:52 PM - 11/19/18
I'm on the correct beta versions for both and don't see the analog movement feature in BO4.  Redownloaded everything (game profiles included) and confirmed the numbers on the version...don't see anything like that under movement.  Playing on Xbox, BO4.  How would I get this new feature???
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019]
Post by: antithesis on 11:22 PM - 11/19/18
I'm on the correct beta versions for both and don't see the analog movement feature in BO4.  Redownloaded everything (game profiles included) and confirmed the numbers on the version...don't see anything like that under movement.  Playing on Xbox, BO4.  How would I get this new feature???
Od1n made of video for SAB at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ezao54NqsvA

Note that this thread is not for the latest beta, it's here - https://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=72146.0
Title: Re: XIM APEX BETA [Firmware 20181019]
Post by: bc525 on 08:27 AM - 11/20/18
I upgraded to this yesterday (along with the new manager)... I made no changes to my config or new options and found that playing PUBG that after everytime I jump from the plane my keyboard inputs do not work for about 3-5 seconds.... I also noticed something similar when getting into a game lobby where my mouse input works, but the keyboard is delayed in working for a few seconds....

After polling some questions on these forums about these new options and their use with PUBG, the resounding response was they are not needed or have any affect with PUBG, so I'm going back to the old 501/528 as even if these new issues had nothing to do with this new 1019 there's no use for me to be on 1019.....