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Title: BO4 Sniper's Curve
Post by: ceebs on 07:57 AM - 10/19/18
Hi all.
Thought I'd share the Ballistic Curve that I'm using to snipe with, in Black Ops 4:

(https://i.imgur.com/KEaeaVG.png)

>>> XIM APEX [Translate Ballistics] START COPY >>>
X5BC:AAAAvwF+Aj0C+wO6BHkFOAX3BrYHdQgzCPIJsYpwivCLTQumi/4MbIzajXqOkpAEkYCTBpQVlPEVuxaEF04YGBjhGasadRs/HAgc0h2cHmUfLx/5IMIhjCJWIyAj6SSzJX0mRicQ:X5BC
<<< XIM APEX END COPY <<<

I'm an old school sniper and find it quite difficult to quickscope, so I needed help from my Apex in order to stay on target in middle-distance gunfights.
This curve works really well.
My micromovements are unaffected so that I don't over compensate when I'm shooting at long distance and my fast swipes, to snap onto target, are unchanged. The strength of the curve is that it reduces my mouse's sensitivity a little at normal ADS movement speed to give me a bit more control. I increased my ADS sensitivity by 25% to compensate so that I'm moving my reticle around more quickly other than when I'm focused on tracking a slow moving target.
With it, I'm getting headshots with relative ease and am much more confident about getting Diamond camo quickly for the snipers.

Oh, and it works fine if you're using any other weapon, just might need to tweak the Activation Delay as the animation is different for the different weapon categories. I don't. Can't be arsed.  ;)

I know someone will ask :) so here are my settings. They won't necessarily be the best ones for you ('cos you're not me!) so play around with them to find your sweet spot:

Mouse :1000 Hz, 3200 DPI
Apex: 250 Hz
Manager settings for ADS config:



Title: Re: BO4 Sniper's Curve
Post by: biro1 on 09:49 AM - 10/19/18
Hi all.
Thought I'd share the Ballistic Curve that I'm using to snipe with, in Black Ops 4:

(https://i.imgur.com/KEaeaVG.png)

>>> XIM APEX [Translate Ballistics] START COPY >>>
X5BC:AAAAyAGQAlgDIAPoBLAFeAZABwgH0AiYCWAKKArwC7gMgA1IDhAO2A+gEGgRMBH4EsATiBRQFRgV4BaoF3AYOBkAGcgakBtYHCAc6B2wHngfQCAIINAhmCJgIygj8CS4JYAmSCcQ:X5BC
<<< XIM APEX END COPY <<<


I'm an old school sniper and find it quite difficult to quickscope, so I needed help from my Apex in order to stay on target in middle-distance gunfights.
This curve works really well.
My micromovements are unaffected so that I don't over compensate when I'm shooting at long distance and my fast swipes, to snap onto target, are unchanged. The strength of the curve is that it reduces my mouse's sensitivity a little at normal ADS movement speed to give me a bit more control. I increased my ADS sensitivity by 25% to compensate so that I'm moving my reticle around more quickly other than when I'm focused on tracking a slow moving target.
With it, I'm getting headshots with relative ease and am much more confident about getting Diamond camo quickly for the snipers.

Oh, and it works fine if you're using any other weapon, just might need to tweak the Activation Delay as the animation is different for the different weapon categories. I don't. Can't be arsed.  ;)

I know someone will ask :) so here are my settings. They won't necessarily be the best ones for you ('cos you're not me!) so play around with them to find your sweet spot:

Mouse :1000 Hz, 3200 DPI
Apex: 250 Hz
Manager settings for ADS config:
  • Black Ops 4 ST
  • Activation delay: 224
  • Smooth Aim Transition: Off
  • Aim sensitivity: 10
  • Sync: Common
  • Smoothing: 0
  • Y/X Ratio: 1.25
DESOLE THE FRIEND BUT YOUR CURVE IS THAT OF ORIGIN

can you rest it?
Title: Re: BO4 Sniper's Curve
Post by: ceebs on 09:58 AM - 10/19/18
Repasted the curve and tested. Should work fine now.
Title: Re: BO4 Sniper's Curve
Post by: MetalChemist on 10:27 AM - 11/01/18
thanks for the curve!
i will give it  a try.
Title: Re: BO4 Sniper's Curve
Post by: HanSolo82 on 12:44 PM - 11/08/18
Hey Ceebs, nice post. This helps me not over aim when using the sniper in the game. Thanks dude!
Title: Re: BO4 Sniper's Curve
Post by: ceebs on 03:30 AM - 11/09/18
Hey Ceebs, nice post. This helps me not over aim when using the sniper in the game. Thanks dude!
That's the idea. ;) Glad you like it. :)
Title: Re: BO4 Sniper's Curve
Post by: jjoao on 09:25 AM - 03/07/19
Nice post. Can you tell which is your hip?
Title: Re: BO4 Sniper's Curve
Post by: ceebs on 11:49 AM - 03/07/19
Thanks. I don't use a curve for Hip (or rather didn't - I'll go back to BO4 when they bring out the no-Specialist play list  ;) )
Title: Re: BO4 Sniper's Curve
Post by: HanSolo82 on 12:26 PM - 03/07/19
Thanks. I don't use a curve for Hip (or rather didn't - I'll go back to BO4 when they bring out the no-Specialist play list  ;) )

Ceebs man whats up dude! I am glad to see you are in line as well for the no-specialist play list lol. They need to hurry up IMO.  I havent played BO4 since I am out of town but once I return I sure hope they make it a permanent mode.
Title: Re: BO4 Sniper's Curve
Post by: ceebs on 11:13 AM - 03/10/19
Thanks. I don't use a curve for Hip (or rather didn't - I'll go back to BO4 when they bring out the no-Specialist play list  ;) )

Ceebs man whats up dude! I am glad to see you are in line as well for the no-specialist play list lol. They need to hurry up IMO.  I havent played BO4 since I am out of town but once I return I sure hope they make it a permanent mode.
Totally! So sick of BS Specialist deaths and scorestreak nerfs. It's like 3Arch have forgotten how to make a good MP CoD.

Lovin' Apex Legends tho'.  8)
Title: Re: BO4 Sniper's Curve
Post by: Andrxiaa on 05:54 PM - 03/18/19
Really love the curve, has helped me get dark matter. I notice if I try to use this curve for reg gunning, the aim assist is really sticky. Because of this, I use an Auxillary, any suggestions on how i could decrease the aa? Using 4K dpi, 12.50 sense, 10 hip, 1000hz and common sync.
Title: Re: BO4 Sniper's Curve
Post by: WarCat on 09:19 PM - 03/18/19
Really love the curve, has helped me get dark matter. I notice if I try to use this curve for reg gunning, the aim assist is really sticky. Because of this, I use an Auxillary, any suggestions on how i could decrease the aa? Using 4K dpi, 12.50 sense, 10 hip, 1000hz and common sync.

Changing SYNC from Common to Default will reduce AA, take it one step further to Sync Off for more reduction. AA is pretty strong in cod tho, especially BO4
Title: Re: BO4 Sniper's Curve
Post by: Girlgamerzz on 05:17 AM - 03/20/19
What the reason of have activation delay?
Title: Re: BO4 Sniper's Curve
Post by: WarCat on 05:24 AM - 03/20/19
What the reason of have activation delay?

Activation delay helps you snap to your target better on weapons that have a fast ADS. For Snipers though, the activation delay is so your aim does not slow down until you are fully aimed down sights, since it usually takes longer to ADS. If you’re using it on Snipers with QuickDraw attached you may need to lower it, or for slower ADS such as a standard Paladin you may need to increase it.
Title: Re: BO4 Sniper's Curve
Post by: ceebs on 09:22 AM - 03/20/19
What the reason of have activation delay?
WarCat is right.
Hip movement is faster than ADS.The ADS animation takes X time to scope in. Without an activation delay, you'd be on Hip sensitivity until the animation had completed, resulting in your aim being too sensitive for the first few milliseconds of being aimed in, so unless you're quickscoping, you'll overaim and miss your shot.
In earlier CoDs, the animation took 224 milliseconds, so I left the delay at that value.
That was a mistake.
In BO IIII, the ADS animation takes different lengths of time. Snipers take between 300 - 400 ms to scope-in (Koshka is quickest, Paladin is slowest), but this is reduced with Quickdraw. Unless you want to calculate the ADS for each sniper rifle and then reduce it for QD1 and QD2 when equipped, I'd leave it at 300+ ms.
Title: Re: BO4 Sniper's Curve
Post by: slickrick on 05:29 PM - 03/20/19
What the reason of have activation delay?
  Ill use COD as an example for ADS delay, Xim has always had two sensitivity settings , Hip and ADS. every COD before BO4 as had only one in game sensitivity setting for hip and ADS, so you could tweak your ADS time a little faster or a little slower. The prefect ADS time being, the shortest time that you can draw you gun and be right on target without being faster than the in game animation , with black ops4 you don't have to worry about that because its now built into the game. that the bottom of your hip settings chose ADS translation, then go to ADS page, hit the three dots under activation put 0  ads delay and uncheck smooth aim transition and the game will do it on its own.  unlike all the COD's before this one.
Title: Re: BO4 Sniper's Curve
Post by: antithesis on 04:14 AM - 03/21/19
What the reason of have activation delay?
I may be wrong about this, but I think the activation delay was originally added for CoD games to ensure the HIP and ADS reticles align correctly when the ADS translator kicks in. If you set it to 0 and ADS, you may find your reticle is aimed lower than expected.
Title: Re: BO4 Sniper's Curve
Post by: jjoao on 05:12 AM - 05/11/19
You can explain why  you use 1.25 Y/X Ratio.
Title: Re: BO4 Sniper's Curve
Post by: ceebs on 06:01 AM - 07/30/19
You can explain why  you use 1.25 Y/X Ratio.
Helps with managing vertical recoil.
Title: Re: BO4 Sniper's Curve
Post by: Adir on 05:33 AM - 04/12/20
What the reason of have activation delay?
WarCat is right.
Hip movement is faster than ADS.The ADS animation takes X time to scope in. Without an activation delay, you'd be on Hip sensitivity until the animation had completed, resulting in your aim being too sensitive for the first few milliseconds of being aimed in, so unless you're quickscoping, you'll overaim and miss your shot.
In earlier CoDs, the animation took 224 milliseconds, so I left the delay at that value.
That was a mistake.
In BO IIII, the ADS animation takes different lengths of time. Snipers take between 300 - 400 ms to scope-in (Koshka is quickest, Paladin is slowest), but this is reduced with Quickdraw. Unless you want to calculate the ADS for each sniper rifle and then reduce it for QD1 and QD2 when equipped, I'd leave it at 300+ ms.

I have the latest Firmware update and the ads settings with common und ads sens 10 is very fast. Can you help me to fix thos problem. I follow all the steps you describe.

Thanks...
Title: Re: BO4 Sniper's Curve
Post by: Shine on 02:01 PM - 04/12/20


Mouse :1000 Hz, 3200 DPI
Apex: 250 Hz
Manager settings for ADS config:
  • Black Ops 4 ST
  • Activation delay: 224
  • Smooth Aim Transition: Off
  • Aim sensitivity: 10
  • Sync: Common
  • Smoothing: 0
  • Y/X Ratio: 1.25
Please explain your reasoning for choosing the following options and values in RED
Title: Re: BO4 Sniper's Curve
Post by: Shine on 02:05 PM - 04/12/20
What the reason of have activation delay?
  Ill use COD as an example for ADS delay, Xim has always had two sensitivity settings , Hip and ADS. every COD before BO4 as had only one in game sensitivity setting for hip and ADS, so you could tweak your ADS time a little faster or a little slower. The prefect ADS time being, the shortest time that you can draw you gun and be right on target without being faster than the in game animation , with black ops4 you don't have to worry about that because its now built into the game. that the bottom of your hip settings chose ADS translation, then go to ADS page, hit the three dots under activation put 0  ads delay and uncheck smooth aim transition and the game will do it on its own.  unlike all the COD's before this one.

So, for modern warfare my ADS delay should be 0 and smooth aim transition unchecked??
Title: Re: BO4 Sniper's Curve
Post by: ceebs on 03:24 PM - 04/12/20
What the reason of have activation delay?
WarCat is right.
Hip movement is faster than ADS.The ADS animation takes X time to scope in. Without an activation delay, you'd be on Hip sensitivity until the animation had completed, resulting in your aim being too sensitive for the first few milliseconds of being aimed in, so unless you're quickscoping, you'll overaim and miss your shot.
In earlier CoDs, the animation took 224 milliseconds, so I left the delay at that value.
That was a mistake.
In BO IIII, the ADS animation takes different lengths of time. Snipers take between 300 - 400 ms to scope-in (Koshka is quickest, Paladin is slowest), but this is reduced with Quickdraw. Unless you want to calculate the ADS for each sniper rifle and then reduce it for QD1 and QD2 when equipped, I'd leave it at 300+ ms.

I have the latest Firmware update and the ads settings with common und ads sens 10 is very fast. Can you help me to fix thos problem. I follow all the steps you describe.

Thanks...
Which sync setting are you using?
Title: Re: BO4 Sniper's Curve
Post by: ceebs on 03:30 PM - 04/12/20


Mouse :1000 Hz, 3200 DPI
Apex: 250 Hz
Manager settings for ADS config:
  • Black Ops 4 ST
  • Activation delay: 224
  • Smooth Aim Transition: Off
  • Aim sensitivity: 10
  • Sync: Common
  • Smoothing: 0
  • Y/X Ratio: 1.25
Please explain your reasoning for choosing the following options and values in RED
1000 Hz means my mouse is sending data as often as it is possible to do and, therefore, resulting in the most accurate tracking.

250 Hz means that Manager is getting data every time it requests it, and jitter from hardware and software issues are negated.

With the correct ADS delay set up, there’s no need for SAT.
Title: Re: BO4 Sniper's Curve
Post by: Adir on 05:03 PM - 04/12/20
What the reason of have activation delay?
WarCat is right.
Hip movement is faster than ADS.The ADS animation takes X time to scope in. Without an activation delay, you'd be on Hip sensitivity until the animation had completed, resulting in your aim being too sensitive for the first few milliseconds of being aimed in, so unless you're quickscoping, you'll overaim and miss your shot.
In earlier CoDs, the animation took 224 milliseconds, so I left the delay at that value.
That was a mistake.
In BO IIII, the ADS animation takes different lengths of time. Snipers take between 300 - 400 ms to scope-in (Koshka is quickest, Paladin is slowest), but this is reduced with Quickdraw. Unless you want to calculate the ADS for each sniper rifle and then reduce it for QD1 and QD2 when equipped, I'd leave it at 300+ ms.

I have the latest Firmware update and the ads settings with common und ads sens 10 is very fast. Can you help me to fix thos problem. I follow all the steps you describe.

Thanks...
Which sync setting are you using?

Xim apex 250 hz Common, with mouse g502 3200 dpi 1000hz
Title: Re: BO4 Sniper's Curve
Post by: ceebs on 11:41 PM - 04/12/20
Xim apex 250 hz Common, with mouse g502 3200 dpi 1000hz
Your aimed down sight sensitivity should be slow at those settings. What value do you have your Hip set to?
Title: Re: BO4 Sniper's Curve
Post by: Adir on 06:12 AM - 04/13/20
Xim apex 250 hz Common, with mouse g502 3200 dpi 1000hz
Your aimed down sight sensitivity should be slow at those settings. What value do you have your Hip set to?

My sync for hip is also common and the sens by 7 with a bit of smoothing.

In the description you indicated that the ads sync setting belongs to common.

Could you briefly describe the settings for hip and ads again?

And how do you have the ingame sens settings?
Title: Re: BO4 Sniper's Curve
Post by: Adir on 02:19 PM - 04/14/20
Ceeb please help if you have the answer of my questions?

Thanks..
Title: Re: BO4 Sniper's Curve
Post by: ceebs on 04:39 AM - 04/15/20
Your Hip sens is too low. I don't have that config any more as I haven't played BO IIII for a long time, but with an ADS sens of 7, I would have had my Hip set at about 15. Hip should always be faster than ADS; as a rule of thumb, around 2.4 times faster.

The only thing important here though, is the Ballistics Curve whilst ADS'ed. Everything else should be set to what's most comfortable for you.

And, you are playing Call of Duty, Black Ops IIII, yes?
Title: Re: BO4 Sniper's Curve
Post by: Adir on 06:09 AM - 04/15/20
Your Hip sens is too low. I don't have that config any more as I haven't played BO IIII for a long time, but with an ADS sens of 7, I would have had my Hip set at about 15. Hip should always be faster than ADS; as a rule of thumb, around 2.4 times faster.

The only thing important here though, is the Ballistics Curve whilst ADS'ed. Everything else should be set to what's most comfortable for you.

And, you are playing Call of Duty, Black Ops IIII, yes?

Yes im playing bo4, but the ads settings with 10 / sync slow / apex 250hz is really too fast. But i think the reason why its too fast now, is the newest firmware. Maybe I have set my xim firmware to an older version.