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Title: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Od1n on 12:35 PM - 03/01/18
more tutorials will follow soon, let me know what you guys would like to see!


Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs0sH4rfGRc

Updated version which includes ADS sensitivity + aim assist adjustments as well:


Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VJZiolzaI4
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Hazeem on 12:55 PM - 03/01/18
LOVE IT! this is a big help odin thank you, sometimes the simplest approach is the best  :), so about the smoothing feature in apex can you make a tutorial demonstrating what it can do and the situations where it may be necessary to use it.   
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Maxxgold on 01:19 PM - 03/01/18
Thank you!!! Will like and subscribe!
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: UncleRico on 01:27 PM - 03/01/18
Solid tutorial.. Thanks Od1n!
I have become too much of a wrist player on console.
Looking forward to dialing it back in and being more of an arm player, like PC.
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: sharpz on 01:53 PM - 03/01/18
Excellent I’ve had issues for a long time with and can never get it right
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: [SCA]COBRA on 01:57 PM - 03/01/18
more tutorials will follow soon, let me know what you guys would like to see!


Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs0sH4rfGRc

Great video, thanks for sharing.  Do you have to do this for each game?  It seems like with different translators and aim mechanics the same sensitivity won’t carry over from game to game.

Also, just out of curiosity, how would this methodology translate to finding your “perfect” sensitivity on the PC?  Again, each game has its own sensitivity settings but there is also DPI to factor in.  I guess I will have to see if someone has a similar video for PC.
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Balor1712 on 02:14 PM - 03/01/18
Is this for hip only? If it is, how would you then continue with finding your correct ads sensitivity.

I have been rather basic in finding my sensitivies in just playing and seeing if I need to raise or lower it.
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Luck0r1987 on 02:56 PM - 03/01/18
How about a Sticky for this Post?

Does not really makes sense when it's on Page 100 at some Point.

Thanks for the work and the nice Tutorial  :)
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: PingThing on 03:07 PM - 03/01/18
Whuuuut, that's not your real voice?.....that's a shame.....thought we had some Anonymous conspiricies going on.
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Od1n on 03:20 PM - 03/01/18
LOVE IT! this is a big help odin thank you, sometimes the simplest approach is the best  :), so about the smoothing feature in apex can you make a tutorial demonstrating what it can do and the situations where it may be necessary to use it.

sure ill add that to the list
next one will most likely be a overwatch config tutorial followed by a ballistic curve tutorial


Thank you!!! Will like and subscribe!

thanks! :)


Also, just out of curiosity, how would this methodology translate to finding your “perfect” sensitivity on the PC?  Again, each game has its own sensitivity settings but there is also DPI to factor in.  I guess I will have to see if someone has a similar video for PC.

on PC you do it the same way but instead of changing your xim sensitivity you change the sensitivity of the game you play
here a PC video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxBuiD11WDM


Is this for hip only? If it is, how would you then continue with finding your correct ads sensitivity.

I have been rather basic in finding my sensitivies in just playing and seeing if I need to raise or lower it.

you just do it the same way but for your ads sensitivity then
pick an object in the distance for that which you would consider mid range
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: MattyAu on 03:26 PM - 03/01/18
Is it worth pinning this topic?
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: SixShooter on 03:29 PM - 03/01/18
What is a good starting dpi for the xim? I have the g502
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Hacks on 03:31 PM - 03/01/18
Excellent tutorial. I've gotten somewhat used to a different sensitivity over the past year. Think it's worth going through this tutorial and doing it anyways? Won't I likely just end up with my current sensitivity
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: ithinkfit on 04:04 PM - 03/01/18
more tutorials will follow soon, let me know what you guys would like to see!


Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs0sH4rfGRc

I wish I would've known about this approach for my xim4. Thank you for sharing. Question: Do you recommend keeping hip and ADS equal, or using this approach for ADS, and a faster one for hip for quick turning?
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Od1n on 04:16 PM - 03/01/18
Is it worth pinning this topic?

i will probably do more tutorials like this, maybe ill summarize them in a stickied tutorial topic then :)


What is a good starting dpi for the xim? I have the g502

try 4000 dpi and then 12000 dpi, no need to test something in between
pick the value that feels better for you, both are high enough to ensure perfect mouse movements :)


Excellent tutorial. I've gotten somewhat used to a different sensitivity over the past year. Think it's worth going through this tutorial and doing it anyways? Won't I likely just end up with my current sensitivity

yes definitely, but do the tutorial before you have warmed up!
let me know how big the difference between your current sensitvity and ur new one will be :)


I wish I would've known about this approach for my xim4. Thank you for sharing. Question: Do you recommend keeping hip and ADS equal, or using this approach for ADS, and a faster one for hip for quick turning?

id recommend to find your HIP sensitivity with this method first to know the ballpark you re in regarding your sensitivity
then you can either redo the tutorial for your ADS or pick a similar HIP value for your ADS, here i recommend to use a slightly lower speed in your ADS than in your HIP
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: andy274 on 04:19 PM - 03/01/18
That is the single biggest improvement to my gaming with Xim that ive ever seen... Cant wait to try it out Od1n... nice one!
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: ZeroDegre on 04:21 PM - 03/01/18
Excellent tutorial, thanks!

Gonna take some time to find my sweet spot now :)
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: YeaItsMe on 04:34 PM - 03/01/18
Od1n...This was great. Thanks so much for the time/effort in making the vid. Much appreciated.

Subbed and liked.
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Balor1712 on 06:00 PM - 03/01/18
I do think this should be stickied somewhere.
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: mjfame on 04:51 AM - 03/02/18
this is excellent info for the entire community and it deserves to be pinned on page #1. go for it!

thanks for your contribution .

Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: biscojoe on 05:14 AM - 03/02/18
This should be a sticky. Great post dude. For being new to the XIM I was curious about my mouse sensitivity for games like fortnite and cod. What dpi would be good for the Logitech g403? I'm assuming like you said... Start at 4000 or just come cap it at 12000.
I play a lot of CS:GO and have recently started using 1800 dpi 0.5 sens but have used 400 dpi in the past. Is low dpi bad on a 1080 native res? lol

Can't wait to get my XIM ordered hehe :)
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Taktikz on 05:17 AM - 03/02/18
Hey Od1n, will you be able to do the Overwatch tutorial you said you we're going to do bud? =) ILY ! x
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: etrigan on 05:45 AM - 03/02/18
I appreciate the post Od1n, I'm sure RML will create a thread or too as well. :)
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Od1n on 06:54 AM - 03/02/18
nice to hear that this video is helpfull! :)

before i sign offline, I would expand on this topic by stating to the rest of the community that very low dpi (450 @1080p) makes initial movements feel like they have an extra boost of acceleration and directional changes transition much quicker due to less smoothing and whatnot.. i still feel that super-low dpi is better than high dpi even on console because of this. it's so much easier to break the bubble and maintain player tracking then it is on higher dpi steps (even the lower ones like 800 don't perform as well as 450 does in this scenario). these are twitch shooters and this sort of responsiveness is what matters most.

its a personal preference thing, most users dont like pixel-skipping so they go with higher dpis
also you could use the boost function to break out of the aim assist bubble while maintaining smooth mouse movements

overall with xim apex this issue is pretty much solved as the 1000hz mode and its smoothing lets you deal with aim assist much better
its very easy to break out of the aim assist bubble


This should be a sticky. Great post dude. For being new to the XIM I was curious about my mouse sensitivity for games like fortnite and cod. What dpi would be good for the Logitech g403? I'm assuming like you said... Start at 4000 or just come cap it at 12000.
I play a lot of CS:GO and have recently started using 1800 dpi 0.5 sens but have used 400 dpi in the past. Is low dpi bad on a 1080 native res? lol

Can't wait to get my XIM ordered hehe :)

you want a minimum of 3000-4000 dpi, anything above that will hardly have an influence
therefore id recommend to try both 4000 and 12000 dpi to see which one you like more
a lot of people go with 4000 dpi as not every clothpad handles extremly high dpi values that good


Hey Od1n, will you be able to do the Overwatch tutorial you said you we're going to do bud? =) ILY ! x

this will be the next thing ill do, maybe ill get it done by tomorrow or the day after that!
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Hacks on 07:05 AM - 03/02/18



Excellent tutorial. I've gotten somewhat used to a different sensitivity over the past year. Think it's worth going through this tutorial and doing it anyways? Won't I likely just end up with my current sensitivity

yes definitely, but do the tutorial before you have warmed up!
let me know how big the difference between your current sensitvity and ur new one will be :)



I went into overwatch and replicated the same scenario on PC. I completed the process and it resulted in a change from a 5000 mouse sensitivity index (1000dpi x 5 sense) to a 2000 mouse sensitivity index (1000 dpi to 2 sens) - from a 9.875" 360 turn to a 26.5" 360 turn. In the training room I can already tell my aim is much smoother and more accurate, however, the sudden decrease in turn speed is definitely going to be a big adjustment. Luckily I already have a 16"x18" moousepad and have the space to move my arm around. Despite knowing that the sudden change will disrupt my short term performance in terms of being adjusted to movement I know that it will be an investment into future performance that will have a large payout. Thanks for the tutorial :)
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: antithesis on 07:15 AM - 03/02/18
Nice tut Od1n.

Do you use the same methodology in high AA games?

The concern is breaking through the AA bubble into the hitbox, which can get trickier at lower sens values when AA is higher.

I tend to optimise my aim in say Destiny 2 at 3200 DPI, then bump up the DPI to 3600 to help with cut-through into the hitbox. Essentially that's the same as increasing sens by 12.5%, but it's just a quicker way for me to get there.

I also found that I needed to roughly halve my Overwatch sens compared to almost every other game I play, so it'd be interesting to replicate this in another title.

Great approach nonetheless, I'll give it a crack :)
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Hacks on 07:30 AM - 03/02/18
Nice tut Od1n.

Do you use the same methodology in high AA games?

The concern is breaking through the AA bubble into the hitbox, which can get trickier at lower sens values when AA is higher.

I tend to optimise my aim in say Destiny 2 at 3200 DPI, then bump up the DPI to 3600 to help with cut-through into the hitbox. Essentially that's the same as increasing sens by 12.5%, but it's just a quicker way for me to get there.

I also found that I needed to roughly halve my Overwatch sens compared to almost every other game I play, so it'd be interesting to replicate this in another title.

Great approach nonetheless, I'll give it a crack :)

The AA bubble? Does AA interact with the Xim? This has been a concern of mine.
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: antithesis on 07:57 AM - 03/02/18
AA interacts with all controllers, it's just more noticeable on a Xim due to the higher degree of control with a mouse. The lower the sensitivity, the higher the pull of AA. It's a similar effect to reducing your in-game sensitivity, which isn't recommended on a Xim as the translators are built at max game sens.

AA can be both an ally and a foe, depending on the game, and sometimes it can be harder to break into the hitbox, or over/undershoot your target. Increasing sensitivity can reduce the tug of AA and make it easier to enter the hitbox at the cost of accuracy, whereas reducing it could lead to buffeting from AA.

It's not a criticism of this tut and I'll be experimenting with it myself, but AA is something to keep in the back of your mind when tinkering with sensitivity.

One thing we found with the Apex settings is that Smoothing may assist with AA, in a similar way to the Steady Aim Xim4 builds (though that's not Smoothing's intended purpose). RML previously invested a lot of time into fighting the AA bubble via ballistics curves on Xim4, but he apparently no longer uses them on Apex due to Smoothing.

Od1n and Headhunter and more qualified to talk about that, they have a much higher sensitivity to micro-adjustments than I do.
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Clu on 08:41 AM - 03/02/18
nice tutorial for the noobs  :P
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Mdart83 on 09:20 AM - 03/02/18
Great tutorial Odin. Request todo one for Fortnite and also share more gameplay!
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Od1n on 10:39 AM - 03/02/18
I went into overwatch and replicated the same scenario on PC. I completed the process and it resulted in a change from a 5000 mouse sensitivity index (1000dpi x 5 sense) to a 2000 mouse sensitivity index (1000 dpi to 2 sens) - from a 9.875" 360 turn to a 26.5" 360 turn. In the training room I can already tell my aim is much smoother and more accurate, however, the sudden decrease in turn speed is definitely going to be a big adjustment. Luckily I already have a 16"x18" moousepad and have the space to move my arm around. Despite knowing that the sudden change will disrupt my short term performance in terms of being adjusted to movement I know that it will be an investment into future performance that will have a large payout. Thanks for the tutorial :)

that sounds like a pretty good sensitivity now, mine is slightly slower (something like 45cm per 360°)
give this turnspeed a few days and you will ask yourself how you ever played with anything else! :)

for some OW characters accuracy shouldnt be your main target though, you might want to go for a faster sensitivity there and sacrifice some accuracy (eg dva)


Nice tut Od1n.

Do you use the same methodology in high AA games?

The concern is breaking through the AA bubble into the hitbox, which can get trickier at lower sens values when AA is higher.

I tend to optimise my aim in say Destiny 2 at 3200 DPI, then bump up the DPI to 3600 to help with cut-through into the hitbox. Essentially that's the same as increasing sens by 12.5%, but it's just a quicker way for me to get there.

I also found that I needed to roughly halve my Overwatch sens compared to almost every other game I play, so it'd be interesting to replicate this in another title.

Great approach nonetheless, I'll give it a crack :)

yes this is a valid point indeed, with slower sensitivities aim assist can become an issue

i usually counter this by either deactivating or reducing the aim assist if the game allows that (eg use aim window 30 in Overwatch) or by adding in some smoothing
the smoothing helps to get into the aim assist bubble without having that barrier trying to push you away or stall your mouse for a slight moment

another great way is to actively aim by moving your character as well
this is what i do in overwatch, when i attempt to target on an opponent i usually adapt my movement to that so my WASD breaks my cursor into the bubble (or out of it if needed)
it takes some practice but is really effective
(alongside using 30 aim window in OW)

this is how controller players aim, if you watch the better pad players youll see how a large share of their aim comes from moving their character
the aim assist algorithm is tailored around those input patterns so adapting your keyboard or nav movements to that is really beneficial
this is why people playing with a nav usually say they have more aim assist or struggle less with the aim assist bubble as they automatically use their analog stick to partially aim or stay on target


Great tutorial Odin. Request todo one for Fortnite and also share more gameplay!

fortnite tutorial is planned but ill most likely do an overwatch and ballistic curve one before that
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Zen on 11:16 AM - 03/02/18



Excellent tutorial. I've gotten somewhat used to a different sensitivity over the past year. Think it's worth going through this tutorial and doing it anyways? Won't I likely just end up with my current sensitivity

yes definitely, but do the tutorial before you have warmed up!
let me know how big the difference between your current sensitvity and ur new one will be :)



I went into overwatch and replicated the same scenario on PC. I completed the process and it resulted in a change from a 5000 mouse sensitivity index (1000dpi x 5 sense) to a 2000 mouse sensitivity index (1000 dpi to 2 sens) - from a 9.875" 360 turn to a 26.5" 360 turn. In the training room I can already tell my aim is much smoother and more accurate, however, the sudden decrease in turn speed is definitely going to be a big adjustment. Luckily I already have a 16"x18" moousepad and have the space to move my arm around. Despite knowing that the sudden change will disrupt my short term performance in terms of being adjusted to movement I know that it will be an investment into future performance that will have a large payout. Thanks for the tutorial :)

That's probably pushing it for overwatch. While your aim will be better your free look efficiency will go down. There needs to be a balance between the two. But now you've found your spot you can adjust from here

I used the same technique years ago from this video
https://youtu.be/uxBuiD11WDM

And it got me on 1.3 400dpi but in game it was holding me back to much. Ended up being like a mobile turret lol accurate but with poor awareness and movement. I use around 60cm/360 (1.72 400dpi) these days which is the perfect balance for me.
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Od1n on 12:09 PM - 03/02/18
I used the same technique years ago from this video
https://youtu.be/uxBuiD11WDM

And it got me on 1.3 400dpi but in game it was holding me back to much. Ended up being like a mobile turret lol accurate but with poor awareness and movement. I use around 60cm/360 (1.72 400dpi) these days which is the perfect balance for me.

i think it was you Zen who posted this video for the first time back in the days :)
dont know how often i have linked this video in this forum over the last years lol but everytime i did it people where blown away on what a difference it made
(which was one of the reasons why i did a dedicated xim video about it, the method in both videos is similar)
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Zen on 12:11 PM - 03/02/18
Yeah it was me. I prefer yours though. You did a superb job!
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Weedlen on 12:23 PM - 03/02/18
Thx for taking the time on this one.
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: AMG on 12:35 PM - 03/02/18
Awesome tutorial Od1n, that's is exactly how I do it... is the old Counter Strike Impulsive method (The old good Bubble Algorithm). Great work, very well explained.


The only plus thing I tried, and give me great results is when I find that balance sensitivity I choose the next lower one and I put RML Anti-aim Assist curve but only for games where aim assist is very strong. I do prefer 1:1 linear sensitivity.

Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: AMG on 12:40 PM - 03/02/18
And I know you put your time on this video... is appreciated, but I do prefer a voice over than the text-to-voice.

It will be better suited, more professional finish (credibility). IMO
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Weedlen on 12:41 PM - 03/02/18
And I know you put your time on this video... is appreciated, but I do prefer a voice over than the text-to-voice.

It will be better suited, more professional finish (credibility). IMO

yes please fix mic.
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: antithesis on 04:28 PM - 03/02/18
another great way is to actively aim by moving your character as well
this is what i do in overwatch, when i attempt to target on an opponent i usually adapt my movement to that so my WASD breaks my cursor into the bubble (or out of it if needed)
it takes some practice but is really effective
That's where a lot of my micro-aim adjustments come from too...always be strafing!

If I can suggest a couple of follow-up vids -

1. Using Smoothness with Aim Assist. Basically, what the AA bubble is and how to get in an out of it.
2. Using Ballistics Curves with low sensitivity. How to have both good accuracy and higher turn speeds using curves.
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Hacks on 04:30 PM - 03/02/18
another great way is to actively aim by moving your character as well
this is what i do in overwatch, when i attempt to target on an opponent i usually adapt my movement to that so my WASD breaks my cursor into the bubble (or out of it if needed)
it takes some practice but is really effective
That's where a lot of my micro-aim adjustments come from too...always be strafing!

If I can suggest a couple of follow-up vids -

1. How to use Smoothness with Aim Assist. Basically, what the AA bubble is and how to get in an out of it.
2. How to use Ballistics Curves with low sensitivity. How to have both good accuracy and higher turn speeds using curves.

I would be interested in both of those videos, perhaps amending #2 in that I would be interested in both the 101 and the particulars of ballistic curves.
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Weedlen on 04:32 PM - 03/02/18
For all of the initial alpha testers is there a smoothing setting that can be a standard across all games? I remember seeing someones magic settings  1000hz polling on xim, 1000hz polling on g502, with 7 smoothing added to both hip and ads. I am just curious if we can expect to do this to all games in the lineup or do we need to pay special attention to games that may not have the est look mechanic. 
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: singlecoilpickup on 04:35 PM - 03/02/18
You should only use smoothing if you're experiencing jitter. Smoothing is applied in each game's config. I do think some games will emphasize jitter if you're experiencing it, so I'm not sure if there's any universal truth to what it should be set to.
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: antithesis on 04:37 PM - 03/02/18
Smoothing's purpose is not to manipulate the AA bubble, it's just a happy coincidence. It doesn't really start to kick in until 7, so that's the starting point.

The recommendation would be to play for awhile with 1000Hz and without Smoothing to see how it feels. Then turn Smoothing on at 7 to see if that makes any positive difference.
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: SolitaryNoob on 05:33 PM - 03/02/18
Does anyone know how to work out what your HIP and ADS sensitivities should be in Rainbow Six Siege to get a uniform feel? It would definitely help with muscle memory.
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: antithesis on 05:38 PM - 03/02/18
You can try to use the HIP ST for ADS. Not recommended because the look mechanics will very likely be different, but worth a shot.
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: SolitaryNoob on 05:46 PM - 03/02/18
You can try to use the HIP ST for ADS. Not recommended because the look mechanics will very likely be different, but worth a shot.

Yeah they are totally different. I'm sure I remember seeing someone use some kind of formula to work this out to get a precise figures. There's posts about it on reddit but it's to do it on PC.
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Balor1712 on 06:52 PM - 03/02/18
Tagging onto antithesis’ comment on how this technique works (or doesn’t) with AA I’m also assuming adding a curve messes with it as well.
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Wainbow on 10:57 PM - 03/02/18
holy crap I just tried this method and I simply cant do it. Ive always played using my wrist not my are (jesus this sounds dirty haha) but following this I can barely turn what so ever hahaha.

Ill keep trying but I get the feeling this isnt gunna do me much good... I may have to continue being a @#$% player lol
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: andy274 on 04:05 AM - 03/03/18
Just spent 20mins adjusting my settings in destiny 2. Gone from 45 hip to 15 & ads from 40 to 12.5...huge difference.  What I’ve not done is messed with my G502 dpi - is that where I should look next?
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Od1n on 07:32 AM - 03/03/18
If I can suggest a couple of follow-up vids -

1. Using Smoothness with Aim Assist. Basically, what the AA bubble is and how to get in an out of it.
2. Using Ballistics Curves with low sensitivity. How to have both good accuracy and higher turn speeds using curves.

great idea, will incorporate that into the smoothing tutorial and ballistic curve video!


holy crap I just tried this method and I simply cant do it. Ive always played using my wrist not my are (jesus this sounds dirty haha) but following this I can barely turn what so ever hahaha.

Ill keep trying but I get the feeling this isnt gunna do me much good... I may have to continue being a @#$% player lol


stick to this sensitivity for a few days, yes in the beginning your performance might suffer as you arent accustomed to the new sensitivity yet but this should quickly change
in a few days your accuracy should be much better! :)


Just spent 20mins adjusting my settings in destiny 2. Gone from 45 hip to 15 & ads from 40 to 12.5...huge difference.  What I’ve not done is messed with my G502 dpi - is that where I should look next?

try 4000 dpi and then 12000 dpi, go with the one that you like more
overall theres no real difference between the two in terms of mouse accuracy with your xim, the only thing that changes is how your mousepad can handle the dpi value
some mousepads perform less good with very very high dpis which is why some ximmers go with 4000 on clothpads
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Dutch_muscle on 11:26 AM - 03/03/18
So od1n, ive done this method a while ago.. but struggled with games like bf1 with aim assist

I'm playing on low sensitivity with a SA5 NPD build with boost of 80 in ADS
The problem is with low sensitivity in ADS is to get in the bubble and easy out
The big plus of the SA5 build on higher sensitivities is that dont need a curve to combat AA and can stay 1:1.
How should we combat AA on low sensitivities?



G403
4k dpi, SA5 NPD 80 boost in ADS no curves
10hip 8 ads
14inch/360.
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Od1n on 11:43 AM - 03/03/18
with xim4 thats a tough thing indeed, the xim apex handles aim assist and the bubble much better thanks to smoothing and the 1000hz mode
you hardly have any issues when compared to xim4 (running on lower sensitivities)

what id recommend is to add some boost to your xim4 settings, not much but that will greatly help you to break through the aim assist bubble (eg a value of 100)
overall im not a big fan of the steady aim builds as they in general interfere too much with your aim compared to what they should do, the smoothing feature handles that much better

also in BF1 only use the aim lock on but not the slow down feature (you can de/activate that in the BF1 settings)
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Dutch_muscle on 12:23 PM - 03/03/18
I dont have the apex yet... but for now you dont recommend a build to combat AA?
You said they interfere, but with what? What should i feel?
I know the settings in bf1 and what they do but without the slowdown youre in a major disadvantage compared to a controller player
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Od1n on 01:00 PM - 03/03/18
SA builds will compromise your micro movement in order to deal with the aim assist in a better way, thats what i meant with interfere with your aim
the tradeoff isnt good, reducing your general accuracy for the few moments you face aim assist isnt very optimal
what you do by using SA builds is to rely on the aim assist to handle your micro movement instead of aiming by yourself, smoothing uses a different approach as it doesnt try to fight the aim assist but instead works with it, which means your mouse movements stay the same and the aim assist is less of an issue

in BF1 i highly recommend you to deactivate the aim slowdown in the settings, this alone solves almost all aim assist related problems
the lockon itself happens for the most part only during the zoom in when going into ads, in the hip mechanic it hardly activates or is an issue
in return you will have to use the regular non-SA firmware as your micro movement will be terrible otherwise
(which is something i would recommend you to use in every game anyway)

also change your dpi, one of the main sources of aim assist problems with xim4 is using a dpi value that doesnt fit your mousepad
a cloth mousepad isnt made for 12.000 dpi, this will cause micro-jitter which then screws with the aim assist
if you run a clothpad go 3000-4000 dpi
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Dutch_muscle on 01:29 PM - 03/03/18
Od1n i run cloth on 4k dpi


I will change the build to normal and give it some boost!
Cant wait for my apex, the struggle is real with this AA
Im gonna test out without slowdown and only run auto rotation!
Thnx for your help Od1n!
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Od1n on 01:47 PM - 03/03/18
let me know how it goes, imo this should reduce the issues you have with aim assist quite a lot!
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Mercusu on 04:40 AM - 03/04/18
I was stuck in the 4100s for a while but after changing my sensitivity from 50 to 30 I just climbed to 4300. Thanks for the tutorial.
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Dutch_muscle on 08:20 AM - 03/04/18
let me know how it goes, imo this should reduce the issues you have with aim assist quite a lot!


Od1n i have changed to the lastest original firmware, and you were correct! SA5 interfere alot with your precise aiming
Although this boost feature in SA5 NPD had also a nice second big plus and is to control your recoil better without much mouse movement.
I dropped my sensitivity another 25% and is super smooth! (Tracking players is easy)
Thing to research now is to experiment with boost without jitter..
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: waterbucket123 on 04:12 PM - 03/05/18
Finally managed to watch this video, well done! Will try it once mine comes in.

However I've got a question, I remember reading around the forum multiple times that the higher the DPI the better, whats the point of having a high DPI mouse if you're going to have it so low like 3-4k? Would 12k mouse even be necessary?
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Dirty Ces on 04:57 PM - 03/05/18
I saw this question asked but didn't see an answer. Do you do this for every game ? I would like to do this for PUBG but the way the game is it's pretty hard to pick a spot. People kill you or the circle.
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Od1n on 05:04 PM - 03/05/18
I saw this question asked but didn't see an answer. Do you do this for every game ? I would like to do this for PUBG but the way the game is it's pretty hard to pick a spot. People kill you or the circle.

in general yes, you would want to do this for every game
for PUBG you could do it like the following:
measure your sensitivity with this method in a different game, once you have found a sensitivity that is optimized for you take a ruler and measure the distance it takes to do a 360° turn in this game
since the sensitivity you will play the best with wont vary that much across different games you can now launch PUBG and adjust your xim sensitivity as often as needed until you do a 360° turn with the same mousepad distance
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Dirty Ces on 05:27 PM - 03/05/18
got ya, Thanks
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Mdart83 on 02:09 AM - 03/13/18
Odin when will you do Fortnite sensitivity and settings video?
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: vikram_101 on 02:22 AM - 03/13/18
WOW !

I just saw this video and I feel this should be a mandatory for all the newbies :)
Thank a lot guys for all the support you guys give on this forum.

Since I have got my Apex I have been trying random sensitivities and values and getting more and more confused.
I think too much tinkering without proper knowledge was a problem.

I have settled on a config for my primary hame B1.
Tonight I will test my config with the sensitivities which are output of your method and see how big is the difference.

I have one question though.
I am on 1000 polling and smoothing 3. Shall I try with these values (if i can turn 360 like you said in the video) ?

Thanks again !!!
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: biscojoe on 02:52 AM - 03/13/18
I've been using 12k and 1000hz. I'm sticking on 1000hz but I think my dpi on my g403 might be to high maxed out. I have a Corsair mm300 extended cloth pad and have always used cloth. Do you suggest 4000 dpi then? I'm trying to find settings for fortnite. Does smoothing help or is it always less floaty/more responsive with it off?

Going to test 4k dpi
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Od1n on 11:44 AM - 03/13/18
Odin when will you do Fortnite sensitivity and settings video?

tomorrow ill probably start with either a bf1, fortnite or ballistc curve tutorial video :)
you would like to see fortnite first?

WOW !

I just saw this video and I feel this should be a mandatory for all the newbies :)
Thank a lot guys for all the support you guys give on this forum.

Since I have got my Apex I have been trying random sensitivities and values and getting more and more confused.
I think too much tinkering without proper knowledge was a problem.

I have settled on a config for my primary hame B1.
Tonight I will test my config with the sensitivities which are output of your method and see how big is the difference.

I have one question though.
I am on 1000 polling and smoothing 3. Shall I try with these values (if i can turn 360 like you said in the video) ?

Thanks again !!!


let me know how it works out and yes, stay with your 1000hz and 3 smoothing thats perfectly fine! :)


I've been using 12k and 1000hz. I'm sticking on 1000hz but I think my dpi on my g403 might be to high maxed out. I have a Corsair mm300 extended cloth pad and have always used cloth. Do you suggest 4000 dpi then? I'm trying to find settings for fortnite. Does smoothing help or is it always less floaty/more responsive with it off?

Going to test 4k dpi

with clothpads 3000-4000 dpi usually plays better than 12.000 dpi so defintiely give it a try
smoothing doesnt really affect how floaty your mouse movements are but how much skipping, jitter or stutter is in it
if you move your mouse very slowly and you experience this then add some smoothing to remove that :)
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Swifty FsK on 12:05 PM - 03/13/18
Hey OdIn - New here, but just got my Apex and would love to see how to best dial in my Fortnite aim.
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Od1n on 12:13 PM - 03/13/18
Hey OdIn - New here, but just got my Apex and would love to see how to best dial in my Fortnite aim.

for fortnite id recommend to use the "save the world" game mode to dial in your aim
you have much more time there and the aim mechanic and sensitivities are the same between save the world and battle royale

if you dont have save the world id recommend to fly to a lonely coast area near the end of the bus-flight to ensure no opponents are there
depending on where the save-zone will be placed you might have up to 10 minutes to start with the tutorial
once the game is over fly to the same position in the next game and continue the sensitivitiy tutorial there :)

eg the crab-figure near the moisty mire swamp is on a small hill plus you are well hidden behind the figure
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: FrizzleFry on 02:59 PM - 03/13/18

Ok you've made half a believer out of me. I'm definitely a better shot after having followed this procedure. But now turning is more difficult with the lower sensitivity, especially when your target is up close and jumping around, e.g. Gnasher shotgun duels in Gears 4. So is a ballistic curve the way to have the best of both worlds? I await your next video.


Bonus question: you mentioned larger mouse pads, made of something other than cloth for higher DPI. Is there a particular one you really like?
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Od1n on 08:34 PM - 03/13/18
if turning is an issue with your new sensitivity maybe look into a larger mousepad
with constant and moderate mouse swipes you can turn just as fast as with a high sensitivitiy

cloth is fine as a mousepad, just make sure to not use more than eg 4000 dpi
also more than 4000 dpi doesnt really matter so even if you would use 12.000 dpi on a different mousepad the difference is hardly noticeable
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: FrizzleFry on 08:45 PM - 03/13/18
Currently using an (old) Saitek Cyborg pad, it is basically a sheet of metal, probably aluminum, with a coating sprayed onto each side, one is pretty smooth the other slightly rougher. I think it is good for the sensor, but it is pretty old. Also it is only about 11.5 inches wide. Just wondering what you use, what better ones might be out there...
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Od1n on 08:51 PM - 03/13/18
im using a zowie g-sr mousepad, here you have a good site to start with your research
basically any mousepad in that list is a great choice

http://www.rocketjumpninja.com/mouse-pad-reviews/
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: RML on 09:06 AM - 03/14/18
AA interacts with all controllers, it's just more noticeable on a Xim due to the higher degree of control with a mouse. The lower the sensitivity, the higher the pull of AA. It's a similar effect to reducing your in-game sensitivity, which isn't recommended on a Xim as the translators are built at max game sens.

AA can be both an ally and a foe, depending on the game, and sometimes it can be harder to break into the hitbox, or over/undershoot your target. Increasing sensitivity can reduce the tug of AA and make it easier to enter the hitbox at the cost of accuracy, whereas reducing it could lead to buffeting from AA.

It's not a criticism of this tut and I'll be experimenting with it myself, but AA is something to keep in the back of your mind when tinkering with sensitivity.

One thing we found with the Apex settings is that Smoothing may assist with AA, in a similar way to the Steady Aim Xim4 builds (though that's not Smoothing's intended purpose). RML previously invested a lot of time into fighting the AA bubble via ballistics curves on Xim4, but he apparently no longer uses them on Apex due to Smoothing.

Od1n and Headhunter and more qualified to talk about that, they have a much higher sensitivity to micro-adjustments than I do.

This is a concern of mine too with this type of setup. I love the concept but this isn't PC. I'm not knocking it, this is a great tutorial! I've done this in the past though and really struggled with Aim Assist issues. I will give it another try now with Apex and see if Smoothing can resolve the AA problems I encountered with XIM4 and low sens.

Thanks for sharing this od1n! It's funny how we sometimes need a reminder to get back to the basics. Especially for someone like me who loves diving into the dark corners of Advanced Settings.  :)
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: redacted on 04:12 AM - 03/17/18
if turning is an issue with your new sensitivity maybe look into a larger mousepad
with constant and moderate mouse swipes you can turn just as fast as with a high sensitivitiy

cloth is fine as a mousepad, just make sure to not use more than eg 4000 dpi
also more than 4000 dpi doesnt really matter so even if you would use 12.000 dpi on a different mousepad the difference is hardly noticeable

Ok I suppose it's time for me to chime in here. I just found this thread, watched the video. Loved it! It's precisely the method I use for PC shooters and have used for the last 15 years of gaming (quake 3 arena > *). That being said, I'm completely new to XIM. I currently have my DPI set to 12k and I use a cloth pad (Steelseries QCK Heavy). I'm noticing a lot of people saying that I should lower my DPI since I'm using a cloth pad. Will this really improve what already feels amazing? Someone mentioned something about curves for up-close engagements, is this something I should concern myself with? So many questions, so little time :/
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: biscojoe on 04:19 AM - 03/17/18
if turning is an issue with your new sensitivity maybe look into a larger mousepad
with constant and moderate mouse swipes you can turn just as fast as with a high sensitivitiy

cloth is fine as a mousepad, just make sure to not use more than eg 4000 dpi
also more than 4000 dpi doesnt really matter so even if you would use 12.000 dpi on a different mousepad the difference is hardly noticeable

Ok I suppose it's time for me to chime in here. I just found this thread, watched the video. Loved it! It's precisely the method I use for PC shooters and have used for the last 15 years of gaming (quake 3 arena > *). That being said, I'm completely new to XIM. I currently have my DPI set to 12k and I use a cloth pad (Steelseries QCK Heavy). I'm noticing a lot of people saying that I should lower my DPI since I'm using a cloth pad. Will this really improve what already feels amazing? Someone mentioned something about curves for up-close engagements, is this something I should concern myself with? So many questions, so little time :/

Honestly man I'm a PC Gamer from CS hah and I use a g403... I just tried it at 4000dpi and idk. I have both a zowie g-sr and a Corsair mm300. I'm new to this too lol. I might try 3200 dpi or 3800
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: kryptik66 on 04:29 AM - 03/17/18
Just thought I'd add to this, this is the same method I use on PC games like counter strike and it is also what I use on console with Xim. However, I find that console games with aim assist like Call of Duty require a different sensitivity when aiming at a real enemy and not a random spot on the wall with no aim assist. Ideally you want to be aiming at an enemy player when doing the strafing to emulate the aim assist on a real enemy player. Otherwise if you find the perfect sensitivity looking at a spot on the wall it may be too slow once your aim gets caught in the outer aim assist bubble of an enemy player. I usually either get a friend to stand still while I strafe and keep my aim centered on them or if the game has offline split-screen support like Call of Duty I spawn a second player with controller 2 and do it. This is also great for testing out how the aim assist behaves with different smoothing settings. This may not really be relevant for games with weaker aim assist mechanics, I'm not sure how Overwatch aim assist works as I don't play it.
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: biscojoe on 04:56 AM - 03/17/18
I'm using 3200 dpi on my g403 now with 20 hip and ads boost 0 no smoothing. 3200 does feel a bit more precise on my cloth pad or it's all in my head compared to 12k. Is 3200 enough?
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Dodge on 05:06 AM - 03/17/18
I'm using 3200 dpi on my g403 now with 13.5 hip and ads boost 0 no smoothing. 3200 does feel a bit more precise on my cloth pad or it's all in my head compared to 12k. Is 3200 enough?

It is.High DPI on most mice add smoothing and/or accelaration.So for best tracking and 1 on 1 movement most manufacturer recommend a max DPI 3500.I would not go higher than 4000 DPI with Xim.
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: biscojoe on 05:19 AM - 03/17/18
I'm using 3200 dpi on my g403 now with 13.5 hip and ads boost 0 no smoothing. 3200 does feel a bit more precise on my cloth pad or it's all in my head compared to 12k. Is 3200 enough?

It is.High DPI on most mice add smoothing and/or accelaration.So for best tracking and 1 on 1 movement most manufacturer recommend a max DPI 3500.I would not go higher than 4000 DPI with Xim.

I ended up going back to 12k. It's just to smooth and I like it better. I also like knowing I'm using the max dpi my mouse can handle for best precise movement. Boost 0 with 12k/1000hz is very nice
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: redacted on 05:51 AM - 03/17/18
I'm using 3200 dpi on my g403 now with 13.5 hip and ads boost 0 no smoothing. 3200 does feel a bit more precise on my cloth pad or it's all in my head compared to 12k. Is 3200 enough?

It is.High DPI on most mice add smoothing and/or accelaration.So for best tracking and 1 on 1 movement most manufacturer recommend a max DPI 3500.I would not go higher than 4000 DPI with Xim.

I ended up going back to 12k. It's just to smooth and I like it better. I also like knowing I'm using the max dpi my mouse can handle for best precise movement. Boost 0 with 12k/1000hz is very nice

My G502 doesn't like Boost 0 with 12k/1000hz :( i have to run Boost 3, but it works. I'm currently testing out 4k DPI right now. Holy @#$% my settings are high.
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: biscojoe on 07:05 AM - 03/17/18
Yes I'm so back and forth bro lol I'm testing 3200 dpi boost 0 I think I need to raise my sensitivity a lot lol
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Od1n on 04:42 PM - 03/20/18
Ok I suppose it's time for me to chime in here. I just found this thread, watched the video. Loved it! It's precisely the method I use for PC shooters and have used for the last 15 years of gaming (quake 3 arena > *). That being said, I'm completely new to XIM. I currently have my DPI set to 12k and I use a cloth pad (Steelseries QCK Heavy). I'm noticing a lot of people saying that I should lower my DPI since I'm using a cloth pad. Will this really improve what already feels amazing? Someone mentioned something about curves for up-close engagements, is this something I should concern myself with? So many questions, so little time :/

theres no real difference between 4000 dpi and 12000 dpi when it comes to the quality of your mouse movements with the xim, the only thing that changes is how well your mousepad works with high dpis
some mousepads are just better on 4000 dpi, eg most cloth pads
also a few mice do add inbuild stuff like dpi upscaling or smoothing once you overexceed a certain dpi level

ballistic curves are mouse acceleration, since you come from the PC and you most likely want the 1:1 PC feeling i recommend to not use curves
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: redacted on 05:34 PM - 03/20/18
Ok I suppose it's time for me to chime in here. I just found this thread, watched the video. Loved it! It's precisely the method I use for PC shooters and have used for the last 15 years of gaming (quake 3 arena > *). That being said, I'm completely new to XIM. I currently have my DPI set to 12k and I use a cloth pad (Steelseries QCK Heavy). I'm noticing a lot of people saying that I should lower my DPI since I'm using a cloth pad. Will this really improve what already feels amazing? Someone mentioned something about curves for up-close engagements, is this something I should concern myself with? So many questions, so little time :/

theres no real difference between 4000 dpi and 12000 dpi when it comes to the quality of your mouse movements with the xim, the only thing that changes is how well your mousepad works with high dpis
some mousepads are just better on 4000 dpi, eg most cloth pads
also a few mice do add inbuild stuff like dpi upscaling or smoothing once you overexceed a certain dpi level

ballistic curves are mouse acceleration, since you come from the PC and you most likely want the 1:1 PC feeling i recommend to not use curves

So I've found that first-person shooters are 100% better on 3200dpi, but Fortnite feels much more like PC on 12k. Could be placebo effect, but I'm just going based on feel and experience here. I've been loving playing these Call of Duty games, however! Super fun
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: realsuperpee on 02:30 PM - 06/07/18
So is there a way to Transfer your sens, calculated with this Method, to another Game?
Do all Games behave the same with your calculated sens?


And any Tips how to get this done in Fortnite BR since Storm or other players kill you during the aiming/calculating process?
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Beaker1991 on 06:27 PM - 06/07/18
1. Roll a d20 dice.
2. Take the number and divide by 5 and drop any remainder.
3. Roll the dice again.
4. Stand up and spin around, count the number of complete spins until dizzy.
5. Add the number of spins to the dice roll from step 3.
6. Take the number from step 2 and add to number from step 5.
7. Throw all previous steps out and consult an Astrologist for your magic sensitivity number.
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: realsuperpee on 09:29 PM - 06/07/18
Another high quality post from you.

Will try and give Feedback!
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Od1n on 06:41 AM - 06/08/18
So is there a way to Transfer your sens, calculated with this Method, to another Game?
Do all Games behave the same with your calculated sens?


And any Tips how to get this done in Fortnite BR since Storm or other players kill you during the aiming/calculating process?


yes you can transfer your sensitivity to other games
the best method to do is is to take a ruler and measure your distance on the mousepad that you need to make a 360° turn in the game
eg in CoD your ratio is 40cm per 360°, then launch Fortnite and adjust your xim sensitivity so you do a 360° turn with 40cm too

as for your Fortnite questions, the developers will soon add a playground option in which you could find your sensitivity
alternatively once the bus is flying over the map drop out at the earliest movement and fly as far to the left or right that you can
land near the coast, farm a bit of wood and build a small shelter around you
now you can start doing the tutorial for around 5-10 minutes or more depending on how much luck you have with the circle

also using the 20v20 mode is really good for that too as you are basically completely save in your starting area thanks to having 19 other teammates around you
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Neotralize on 06:25 PM - 06/09/18
I tried this tutorial multiple times and it seems like it makes my shotgun fights and building worst in fortnite. What I did differently was getting closer to the object, simulating a shotgun engagement, and it helped me tremendously.

After that, use that value for ads and do the tutorial. Value should be smaller and that's how I found my solution to my problem for this particular game.

Just thought I'll share my experience with this method.
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Od1n on 05:11 AM - 06/10/18
I tried this tutorial multiple times and it seems like it makes my shotgun fights and building worst in fortnite. What I did differently was getting closer to the object, simulating a shotgun engagement, and it helped me tremendously.

After that, use that value for ads and do the tutorial. Value should be smaller and that's how I found my solution to my problem for this particular game.

Just thought I'll share my experience with this method.

yes for every game you need to ask yourself what would you consider mid distance for the test target object
while fortnite is a game with a very huge map, the large share of combats are rather mid to close range
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Pelican on 02:16 PM - 02/02/19
this tutorial should seriously be built into the XIM Managers mouse Sensitivity settings for every game that has a config.

this is incredible.
there's no telling how many millions of gamers are playing on the wrong sensitivity for their unique play style and skill level, and there is a very real chance they will never dial it in without a tutorial like this.
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Od1n on 11:14 PM - 02/07/19
this tutorial should seriously be built into the XIM Managers mouse Sensitivity settings for every game that has a config.

this is incredible.
there's no telling how many millions of gamers are playing on the wrong sensitivity for their unique play style and skill level, and there is a very real chance they will never dial it in without a tutorial like this.

nice to hear that you like it so much :)

it would be quite difficult to implement into the manager but yeah that would be ideal
(maybe as a popup/text guide in the menu with automatic sensitivity calculation)
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: TurboMan on 08:18 AM - 04/02/21
i usually counter this by either deactivating or reducing the aim assist if the game allows that (eg use aim window 30 in Overwatch) or by adding in some smoothing
the smoothing helps to get into the aim assist bubble without having that barrier trying to push you away or stall your mouse for a slight moment

Mega late to this thread but it's a useful one to this day, so I hope the bump isn't annoying. I noticed on the first few pages there's a lot of talk about smoothing helping with aim assist i.e. cutting through the bubble. It seems like the common consensus these days is that adding smoothing means exacerbating existing AA bubble problems. What are you guys thoughts on this now? Has the general viewpoint been turned on its head over time?
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Od1n on 05:50 PM - 04/02/21
Yes more smoothing will boost the aim assist, but will also smooth out the aim assist bubble around the target. The closer you get to controller movements the more aim assist, and the better aim assist experience you will have. Mouse movements are completely different to controller movements, so without any additional adjustments the aim assist around a target can feel like barrier or obstacle. Smoothing can allow you to enter that bubble rather unnoticed, or say undisrupted.
This is different to the "cutting though" discussion though, which is more about keeping the low aim assist while also reducing the barrier around the aim assist bubble. This would result in a very close PC experience.

So cutting though target: low AA but low AA bubble resistance
smoothing target: High AA with low AA bubble resistance

Nowadays people only talk about the first one while the latter has pretty much not been touched anymore as most people preceive smoothing as something negative, they made bad experiences with it or in general and dont really want to give it a try anymore.
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: TurboMan on 06:42 PM - 04/02/21
Yes more smoothing will boost the aim assist, but will also smooth out the aim assist bubble around the target. The closer you get to controller movements the more aim assist, and the better aim assist experience you will have. Mouse movements are completely different to controller movements, so without any additional adjustments the aim assist around a target can feel like barrier or obstacle. Smoothing can allow you to enter that bubble rather unnoticed, or say undisrupted.
This is different to the "cutting though" discussion though, which is more about keeping the low aim assist while also reducing the barrier around the aim assist bubble. This would result in a very close PC experience.

So cutting though target: low AA but low AA bubble resistance
smoothing target: High AA with low AA bubble resistance

Nowadays people only talk about the first one while the latter has pretty much not been touched anymore as most people preceive smoothing as something negative, they made bad experiences with it or in general and dont really want to give it a try anymore.

Makes a lot of sense, I totally get it. I've spoken about and become a fan of 250hz on XIM for the same reason. Makes movements a little more controller-like, adds a small amount of delay but in return the AA bubble is easier to work with and the tracking assistance is really strong. Using a higher polling rate with smoothing feels very similar.
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: ceebs on 04:38 AM - 04/03/21
Yes more smoothing will boost the aim assist, but will also smooth out the aim assist bubble around the target. The closer you get to controller movements the more aim assist, and the better aim assist experience you will have. Mouse movements are completely different to controller movements, so without any additional adjustments the aim assist around a target can feel like barrier or obstacle. Smoothing can allow you to enter that bubble rather unnoticed, or say undisrupted.
This is different to the "cutting though" discussion though, which is more about keeping the low aim assist while also reducing the barrier around the aim assist bubble. This would result in a very close PC experience.

So cutting though target: low AA but low AA bubble resistance
smoothing target: High AA with low AA bubble resistance

Nowadays people only talk about the first one while the latter has pretty much not been touched anymore as most people preceive smoothing as something negative, they made bad experiences with it or in general and dont really want to give it a try anymore.
I hate Smoothing!
:)
My problem with it is that it messes too much with microaim at anything over medium range. Yes, it ramps up the AA but as prefer not to feel any AA (in order to have my PS4 gaming feel as close to PC as humanly possible) it really just gets in the way. Having said that, I almost exclusively played CoD on console for the last few years and that franchise has strong, AA so I'm always trying to minimise it.

The only time I used Smoothing as standard, was back in the day when I was playing Infinite Warfare and changed from the 4 to the Apex. I used Sync - Off to get a snappy feeling and used 3 or 4 Smoothing to remove mouse jitter.
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Gamethurst on 02:03 PM - 04/27/21
Great topic and great Tutorial video, even if the original voice would for sure get you more empathy.
As good as virtual voices are.. it's cold, flat..
looking forward to hear you  8)
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: Od1n on 03:40 PM - 04/27/21
Great topic and great Tutorial video, even if the original voice would for sure get you more empathy.
As good as virtual voices are.. it's cold, flat..
looking forward to hear you  8)


Thanks man and i absolutly agree with you! :)
Title: Re: Tutorial - How to find your Perfect XIM Sensitivity
Post by: TurboMan on 08:07 AM - 04/30/21

I hate Smoothing!
:)
My problem with it is that it messes too much with microaim at anything over medium range. Yes, it ramps up the AA but as prefer not to feel any AA (in order to have my PS4 gaming feel as close to PC as humanly possible) it really just gets in the way. Having said that, I almost exclusively played CoD on console for the last few years and that franchise has strong, AA so I'm always trying to minimise it.

The only time I used Smoothing as standard, was back in the day when I was playing Infinite Warfare and changed from the 4 to the Apex. I used Sync - Off to get a snappy feeling and used 3 or 4 Smoothing to remove mouse jitter.

This is why I like 250hz. It has the benefits of smoothing and yet the mouse movements are so clean and precise. I tried 1000hz with smoothing this past week and it just felt so inconsistent, like the AA was just doing all the work for me one day and then the next it just felt so floaty. 250hz requires no smoothing whatsoever and for me allows pretty strong aim assist with plenty of AA bubble workroom.