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Title: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: Renzed19 on 01:10 PM - 08/29/17
Hey guys, right now Im downloading the new patch which is 15.67gb on ps4.
I read the patch notes which includes a new option on aiming called "Aim Ease" kindly see below for the actual descripion

An "Aim Ease" in option has been added under the "Advanced" tab in the "Controller" menu. This allows players to customize their turn rate acceleration. If you’d like to know more, check out the developer explain over on the forums.
(https://blizztrack.com/patch_notes/overwatch/39425)

Currently Im just using the ccc linear set up with 8.5 curve even tho turn speed is quite slow. Im just wondering if this additional setting would help us resolving the turn speed as it is connected on turn rate acceleration.

So guys if you have felt some changes either good or bad after trying this new option kindly share your comments below so we can all benefit to it.
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: mist4fun on 12:17 PM - 08/30/17
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Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: Lineater on 01:11 PM - 08/30/17
Aim Ease In breaks the official ST.   Increased values make mouse movements sluggish and less responsive.
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: mist4fun on 01:46 PM - 08/30/17
Correct. Using Aim Ease changes the look mechanic. Current support expects these settings:

http://xim.tech/settings
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: gunit2004 on 01:48 PM - 08/30/17
Correct. Using Aim Ease changes the look mechanic. Current support expects these settings:

http://xim.tech/settings

Mist, have you decided yet whether or not using a certain value of aim ease combined with a new ST would be worth the trouble? Or is the current ST with aim ease at 0 still optimal and would be superior to retraining with any value of aim ease?
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: mist4fun on 01:50 PM - 08/30/17
I had to start over so it will be a while before I know that. The Smart Translator already provides linear movement using Exponential Ramp so technically there is no reason to use Linear Ramp but I don't mind comparing the two now that Linear Ramp is usable.
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: loo1201 on 02:00 PM - 08/30/17
Expo feels like before again with AE set to 0.
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: gunit2004 on 02:18 PM - 08/30/17
Mist, is it just me, or does gradually increasing Aim Ease slow down vertical aiming?

I was upping the Aim Ease, 1 point at a time and at around 10 I really feel like vertical has become lower compared to horizontal speed.
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: Magnetos hate on 02:29 PM - 08/30/17
I had to start over so it will be a while before I know that. The Smart Translator already provides linear movement using Exponential Ramp so technically there is no reason to use Linear Ramp but I don't mind comparing the two now that Linear Ramp is usable.

The one thing I cannot deny when using linear is that the movement feels smoother, more responsive, and overall more like I'm on PC. Expo works better for me, but linear feels better. If you could find official support for it I'd be very happy.
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: TehSubXero on 03:18 PM - 08/30/17
I had to start over so it will be a while before I know that. The Smart Translator already provides linear movement using Exponential Ramp so technically there is no reason to use Linear Ramp but I don't mind comparing the two now that Linear Ramp is usable.

why is linear now usable?  and please do because you have to admit the cult following that linear has gained is abnormal. i think expo is great but who doesnt like better?
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: gunit2004 on 03:28 PM - 08/30/17
I had to start over so it will be a while before I know that. The Smart Translator already provides linear movement using Exponential Ramp so technically there is no reason to use Linear Ramp but I don't mind comparing the two now that Linear Ramp is usable.

why is linear now usable?  and please do because you have to admit the cult following that linear has gained is abnormal. i think expo is great but who doesnt like better?

I think with the introduction of Aim Ease, while deadzones are still broken and unfixed by Blizzard, Aim Ease at least allows for smoother micro movements. That was the main downfall of Linear Ramp, with micro movements not feeling the best. But if you are able to look past that hump, everything else about Linear Ramp feels so much better than Expo Ramp. Even though the official Overwatch ST is supposed to make Expo "linear", I still never could go back to it after using Linear.

I hope an official ST release would be able to somehow take advantage of Aim Ease and fix micromovements while using Linear Ramp. If not, we Linear Ramp users will probably just stick with using the Console Controller Crossover ST.
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: Tristag on 04:01 PM - 08/30/17
I'm glad you're giving linear ramp a chance, when I play on controller, it definitely seems smoother.  Of course I'm not an expert, but one would think it would carry over onto xim as well?
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: mist4fun on 04:04 PM - 08/30/17
Mist, is it just me, or does gradually increasing Aim Ease slow down vertical aiming?

I was upping the Aim Ease, 1 point at a time and at around 10 I really feel like vertical has become lower compared to horizontal speed.

Yes, raising Aim Ease will lower Y axis and diagonal turn speed.
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: BaronVanSqueegee on 04:54 PM - 08/30/17
Linear works perfectly. It's superior to Exponential. I just recorded this:
https://youtu.be/bWoXiWIxQ9Y

These aim settings give me the best aim experience since I started playing Overwatch. Feels as responsive as BF1.
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: gunit2004 on 05:44 PM - 08/30/17
Linear works perfectly. It's superior to Exponential. I just recorded this:
https://youtu.be/bWoXiWIxQ9Y

These aim settings give me the best aim experience since I started playing Overwatch. Feels as responsive as BF1.

You are using the official Overwatch ST correct? That explains why you have that uncontrollable aim with Aim Ease at 0 but controllable aim at 60. Raising Aim Ease combined with using Linear Ramp basically turns Linear Ramp into a customizable Exponential Ramp. So what you are using is still considering Expo Ramp, you just ended up with a custom aim curve that you like.
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: Renzed19 on 06:02 PM - 08/30/17
I had to start over so it will be a while before I know that. The Smart Translator already provides linear movement using Exponential Ramp so technically there is no reason to use Linear Ramp but I don't mind comparing the two now that Linear Ramp is usable.

why is linear now usable?  and please do because you have to admit the cult following that linear has gained is abnormal. i think expo is great but who doesnt like better?

I think with the introduction of Aim Ease, while deadzones are still broken and unfixed by Blizzard, Aim Ease at least allows for smoother micro movements. That was the main downfall of Linear Ramp, with micro movements not feeling the best. But if you are able to look past that hump, everything else about Linear Ramp feels so much better than Expo Ramp. Even though the official Overwatch ST is supposed to make Expo "linear", I still never could go back to it after using Linear.

I hope an official ST release would be able to somehow take advantage of Aim Ease and fix micromovements while using Linear Ramp. If not, we Linear Ramp users will probably just stick with using the Console Controller Crossover ST.

Yes. I agree to this. Linear Ramp with curve or boost added feels way more better than expo ramp. I also hope they can add an official ST so we can stop experimenting on making new adjustments
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: loo1201 on 06:56 PM - 08/30/17
I tried using the official ST with linear and 71 AE last night for a few hours. Felt close to old expo with no boost no curve.

Today expo is back as normal. Feels so much better than any settings ive used. I guess its personal but ive built muscle memory quite fast and im just playing like a god lol. Im confident i can reach GM next season with expo no curve no boost
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: Kaye_Nine on 07:48 PM - 08/30/17
it still feels very jittery compared to what i had to set to before
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: Renzed19 on 07:57 PM - 08/30/17
I tried using the official ST with linear and 71 AE last night for a few hours. Felt close to old expo with no boost no curve.

Today expo is back as normal. Feels so much better than any settings ive used. I guess its personal but ive built muscle memory quite fast and im just playing like a god lol. Im confident i can reach GM next season with expo no curve no boost

I'm curious how some people do really prefer expo settings, did you already tried CCC ST linear ramp with curve or boost added? aiming is just more consistent here but i think turn speed is more faster in expo ramp.

btw i've seen your settings can you also share your mouse dpi as well your xim hip sens im thinking trying expo since when i bought my xim I already started reading in this forums and started to use linear since most of the people are saying this is much better.

also what hero do you main? i main mccree and soldier and im trying to also main tracer but turning 180 or 360 is really hard in linear. i think genji is best with expo since expo is much faster and genji doesn't need that precise aiming and some flick shots unlike mccree which is really aim reliant and thats why im hesitant to use expo
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: loo1201 on 08:14 PM - 08/30/17
I tried using the official ST with linear and 71 AE last night for a few hours. Felt close to old expo with no boost no curve.

Today expo is back as normal. Feels so much better than any settings ive used. I guess its personal but ive built muscle memory quite fast and im just playing like a god lol. Im confident i can reach GM next season with expo no curve no boost

I'm curious how some people do really prefer expo settings, did you already tried CCC ST linear ramp with curve or boost added? aiming is just more consistent here but i think turn speed is more faster in expo ramp.

btw i've seen your settings can you also share your mouse dpi as well your xim hip sens im thinking trying expo since when i bought my xim I already started reading in this forums and started to use linear since most of the people are saying this is much better.

also what hero do you main? i main mccree and soldier and im trying to also main tracer but turning 180 or 360 is really hard in linear. i think genji is best with expo since expo is much faster and genji doesn't need that precise aiming and some flick shots unlike mccree which is really aim reliant and thats why im hesitant to use expo

Ive tried linear with the console crossover with curve, then no curve and boost only. Was alright but the thing is i had already built the muscle memory and....im all about muscle memory, i believe its what makes you become better.

I main widow, mcree and tracer my dpi is at 6400, my hip sense is at 14.
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: jonb10198 on 08:33 PM - 08/30/17
I tried using the official ST with linear and 71 AE last night for a few hours. Felt close to old expo with no boost no curve.

Today expo is back as normal. Feels so much better than any settings ive used. I guess its personal but ive built muscle memory quite fast and im just playing like a god lol. Im confident i can reach GM next season with expo no curve no boost


so they set expo the way it was pre-patch? need this confirmed as i said im done til they fix it lol
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: Renzed19 on 10:00 PM - 08/30/17
I tried using the official ST with linear and 71 AE last night for a few hours. Felt close to old expo with no boost no curve.

Today expo is back as normal. Feels so much better than any settings ive used. I guess its personal but ive built muscle memory quite fast and im just playing like a god lol. Im confident i can reach GM next season with expo no curve no boost

I'm curious how some people do really prefer expo settings, did you already tried CCC ST linear ramp with curve or boost added? aiming is just more consistent here but i think turn speed is more faster in expo ramp.

btw i've seen your settings can you also share your mouse dpi as well your xim hip sens im thinking trying expo since when i bought my xim I already started reading in this forums and started to use linear since most of the people are saying this is much better.

also what hero do you main? i main mccree and soldier and im trying to also main tracer but turning 180 or 360 is really hard in linear. i think genji is best with expo since expo is much faster and genji doesn't need that precise aiming and some flick shots unlike mccree which is really aim reliant and thats why im hesitant to use expo

Ive tried linear with the console crossover with curve, then no curve and boost only. Was alright but the thing is i had already built the muscle memory and....im all about muscle memory, i believe its what makes you become better.

I main widow, mcree and tracer my dpi is at 6400, my hip sense is at 14.

alright might give this expo a try since there also a lot of people saying expo is good once you built muscle memory and it's the official default xim ST so there's no way it's broken. can you do flick shots in expo? the thing is I played long enough with this linear, switching sometimes to curve or boost trying to find out which is good but sometimes i still miss some easy shots i dont know which is inconsistent me or the linear ST. how many hours do you think to build muscle memory with this expo settings?
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: Renzed19 on 10:01 PM - 08/30/17
I tried using the official ST with linear and 71 AE last night for a few hours. Felt close to old expo with no boost no curve.

Today expo is back as normal. Feels so much better than any settings ive used. I guess its personal but ive built muscle memory quite fast and im just playing like a god lol. Im confident i can reach GM next season with expo no curve no boost

yes it is already confirmed by mist and by blizzard


so they set expo the way it was pre-patch? need this confirmed as i said im done til they fix it lol
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: loo1201 on 11:00 PM - 08/30/17
I tried using the official ST with linear and 71 AE last night for a few hours. Felt close to old expo with no boost no curve.

Today expo is back as normal. Feels so much better than any settings ive used. I guess its personal but ive built muscle memory quite fast and im just playing like a god lol. Im confident i can reach GM next season with expo no curve no boost

I'm curious how some people do really prefer expo settings, did you already tried CCC ST linear ramp with curve or boost added? aiming is just more consistent here but i think turn speed is more faster in expo ramp.

btw i've seen your settings can you also share your mouse dpi as well your xim hip sens im thinking trying expo since when i bought my xim I already started reading in this forums and started to use linear since most of the people are saying this is much better.

also what hero do you main? i main mccree and soldier and im trying to also main tracer but turning 180 or 360 is really hard in linear. i think genji is best with expo since expo is much faster and genji doesn't need that precise aiming and some flick shots unlike mccree which is really aim reliant and thats why im hesitant to use expo

Ive tried linear with the console crossover with curve, then no curve and boost only. Was alright but the thing is i had already built the muscle memory and....im all about muscle memory, i believe its what makes you become better.

I main widow, mcree and tracer my dpi is at 6400, my hip sense is at 14.

alright might give this expo a try since there also a lot of people saying expo is good once you built muscle memory and it's the official default xim ST so there's no way it's broken. can you do flick shots in expo? the thing is I played long enough with this linear, switching sometimes to curve or boost trying to find out which is good but sometimes i still miss some easy shots i dont know which is inconsistent me or the linear ST. how many hours do you think to build muscle memory with this expo settings?

Then you might probably not like it. Itll take you a while to get used to it but its worth it. And yeah you can flick but it takes times to get used to the expo flicks. You cant move your mouse super fast accross the mousepad
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: mrkee on 08:27 AM - 08/31/17
hm ...

I'm experimenting things right now.
After the rollback for expo, I was actually curious about the new "aim ease in" feature

So, I tried this :
► Increase in sensitivity
► added 2 in "aim ease in"

And I was actually shocked as it felt surprisinglly good !
I mean :
My turns were REALLY faster, but my micro movements stayed really precise !

Now I'm trying to readapt for flick shots, but
as a matter of fact : my plays got better !
( I'm often playing tracer and turning back in one movement was a no go before ...
But now I do it easily ! )

 
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: donatello on 09:00 AM - 08/31/17
@mrkee

Are you using linear or expo ramp?

I watched the video in your signiture, pretty impressive.

Would you share your settings?
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: mist4fun on 09:29 AM - 08/31/17
The turn speed is the same between Exponential Ramp and Linear Ramp.
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: loo1201 on 09:45 AM - 08/31/17
hm ...

I'm experimenting things right now.
After the rollback for expo, I was actually curious about the new "aim ease in" feature

So, I tried this :
► Increase in sensitivity
► added 2 in "aim ease in"

And I was actually shocked as it felt surprisinglly good !
I mean :
My turns were REALLY faster, but my micro movements stayed really precise !

Now I'm trying to readapt for flick shots, but
as a matter of fact : my plays got better !
( I'm often playing tracer and turning back in one movement was a no go before ...
But now I do it easily ! )

full settings please?
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: Torderro on 11:12 AM - 08/31/17
I tried using the official ST with linear and 71 AE last night for a few hours. Felt close to old expo with no boost no curve.

Today expo is back as normal. Feels so much better than any settings ive used. I guess its personal but ive built muscle memory quite fast and im just playing like a god lol. Im confident i can reach GM next season with expo no curve no boost

I'm literally lol'ing from all the mixed reviews about expo or linier! It's literally 50/50 hate or love it. For both settings.

Only way to tell is to really test it, and make sure the linier is how it's intended. Because I'm sure it's not supposed to be jittery. Big old bully likes it a lot, and I've played with him before he's a good player.

I had expo ramp so tuned in my muscle memory that it felt perfect for me. Until they updated and literally ruined it for me. Even after the "hot fix" it doesn't feel the same. What a weird shame
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: Tristag on 01:02 PM - 08/31/17
The turn speed is the same between Exponential Ramp and Linear Ramp.

Are you still looking into using Linear?

I admit I have no knowledge of this, however, since most popular fps that have some of the best STs (CoD, BF, etc) do linear, why wouldn't it work best for overwatch, it seems the ST would have less to calculate with the linear vs exponential, no?
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: mist4fun on 01:18 PM - 08/31/17
The turn speed is the same between Exponential Ramp and Linear Ramp.

Are you still looking into using Linear?

I admit I have no knowledge of this, however, since most popular fps that have some of the best STs (CoD, BF, etc) do linear, why wouldn't it work best for overwatch, it seems the ST would have less to calculate with the linear vs exponential, no?

BF and Cod do not have a linear aim option. In fact, if you flip this statement around I would agree with it. If Blizzard devs looked at other successful shooters like BF and CoD and used their techniques they would have a much more solid aiming experience and they wouldn't need three aim modes and a handful of tools to adjust how aiming feels.

Linear Ramp wasn't supported because it's inferior to Exponential Ramp. It didn't allow for micro aiming due to the increased starting speed. This lowers precision. Exponential Ramp allows for small aim adjustments. In addition to this Exponential Ramp is made linear by XIM4's Smart Translator technology.

So that was true before Aim Ease, now this new setting allows the user to control the acceleration of Linear Ramp which can allow for micro movement. This of course negates it of it's linear status, it's 'mostly linear' when using Aim Ease. Another result of Aim Ease is that it's changing the look mechanic in more ways than you would think. It's affecting the acceleration and turn speed of the Y axis and diagonals independently of the X axis and in a negative way. I've built a Linear Ramp+Aim Ease ST and I have to say they feel the same aside for the new shortcomings of Linear Ramp+Aim Ease. At this point Exponential Ramp is still the logical choice.
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: N1TRO on 01:47 PM - 08/31/17
@mist4fun if this is the case is a new st being made based on the exponential aiming system and will it be available before the start of the comp season if not as i assume it must take time to create the smart translators what settings would you recommend for use currently
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: mist4fun on 01:53 PM - 08/31/17
The current ST supports Exponential Ramp. Blizzard rolled back their changes from the other day.
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: N1TRO on 02:12 PM - 08/31/17
Ok thanks for the reply so normal expo settings with 0 aim ease in?
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: mist4fun on 02:22 PM - 08/31/17
Yes, current support requires the settings in the link below.

http://xim.tech/settings
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: N1TRO on 03:17 PM - 08/31/17
Thanks 🙂
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: mrkee on 01:26 AM - 09/01/17
@mrkee

Are you using linear or expo ramp?

I watched the video in your signiture, pretty impressive.

Would you share your settings?

I'm using expo :)
And for my settings  :

dpi : 4000
hip sens : 12
ADS sens : 4.5
no boost
x/y : 1.2

no curve ^^

( and right now in game setting : aim ease in at 2
well, I'm still testing ... I might switch back to 0 for some heroes though :/ 
But for tracer it's interresting ! )
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: Mkbnoob on 10:30 AM - 09/01/17
Yes, current support requires the settings in the link below.

http://xim.tech/settings
Hi, since the hotfix it feel better but something really seem weird with diagonal idk wat.

I think they manage to do sneaky aim change at every patch since s3

I feel like horizental vertical have def not the same turn speed cap, resulting in really weird diagonal. You guys cant do a new ST?

 This game feel @#$% even with xim its blizzard fault for sure but they dnt care 😥 save us mist

When i see all the overwatch post here i think im not the only one who will be pleased by this, i mean at least 40% of ppl who bought a xim play overwatch xd

 we can still do a crowdfunding lool il give miney lol
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: mist4fun on 01:39 PM - 09/01/17
I checked the ST data yesterday and today. The data matches. I noticed that you mentioned a change about a month ago as well, the look mechanic wasn't changed then either. If there are perceived changes it may be related to aim assist or another mechanic.
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: Mkbnoob on 07:23 AM - 09/02/17
I checked the ST data yesterday and today. The data matches. I noticed that you mentioned a change about a month ago as well, the look mechanic wasn't changed then either. If there are perceived changes it may be related to aim assist or another mechanic.
i do play a lot when something change i just feel it, im 100% sure that they do sneaky change in every patcht get xim4 less powerfull.
Im not the only one who feel that.. There is def something goin on,  they said they wanted to make mkb useless and they manage to do sneaky game change every patch.
Sometimes my camera just reset! I aim at right or left side and it just reset... The camera do a weird thing then cursor back to middle.... How that was in game data before? Its was not. And it happen even in spawn no AA issue then. AND it happen at 1000mhz and 500too withboth g502 amd rival 700...
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Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: mist4fun on 09:22 AM - 09/02/17
That sounds like a center screen function, this was a feature in older PC games.
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: Kaye_Nine on 10:53 AM - 09/02/17
i play everyday for about 7 hours a day and i can deft feel a change from the old settings its really kind of annoying cause i have to find new settings and train my muscle memory at the beginning of a season
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: Sqwash Gaming on 04:18 PM - 09/02/17
Linear ramp settings feels good now, low dpi and small boost.. maybe 350-500 etc.. no curve (maybe 1 or 2 taps in a certain spot) Feels nicer than expo for now, working on it.
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: Kaye_Nine on 06:09 PM - 09/02/17
Linear ramp settings feels good now, low dpi and small boost.. maybe 350-500 etc.. no curve (maybe 1 or 2 taps in a certain spot) Feels nicer than expo for now, working on it.

post your settings when your done would like to try them out
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: AKs0n- on 08:03 PM - 09/02/17
I had to start over so it will be a while before I know that. The Smart Translator already provides linear movement using Exponential Ramp so technically there is no reason to use Linear Ramp but I don't mind comparing the two now that Linear Ramp is usable.

why is linear now usable?  and please do because you have to admit the cult following that linear has gained is abnormal. i think expo is great but who doesnt like better?

I think with the introduction of Aim Ease, while deadzones are still broken and unfixed by Blizzard, Aim Ease at least allows for smoother micro movements. That was the main downfall of Linear Ramp, with micro movements not feeling the best. But if you are able to look past that hump, everything else about Linear Ramp feels so much better than Expo Ramp. Even though the official Overwatch ST is supposed to make Expo "linear", I still never could go back to it after using Linear.

I hope an official ST release would be able to somehow take advantage of Aim Ease and fix micromovements while using Linear Ramp. If not, we Linear Ramp users will probably just stick with using the Console Controller Crossover ST.
Using Overwatch ST w/ Linear Ramp & Aim Ease itself FIXES the jumpy Aim of Linear w/o needing a Cross Game Profile or a Ballistics Curve. Im using Default everything including Overwatch ST & Ballistics. Linear is good stuff now & playable. 
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: gunit2004 on 08:56 PM - 09/02/17
I had to start over so it will be a while before I know that. The Smart Translator already provides linear movement using Exponential Ramp so technically there is no reason to use Linear Ramp but I don't mind comparing the two now that Linear Ramp is usable.

why is linear now usable?  and please do because you have to admit the cult following that linear has gained is abnormal. i think expo is great but who doesnt like better?

I think with the introduction of Aim Ease, while deadzones are still broken and unfixed by Blizzard, Aim Ease at least allows for smoother micro movements. That was the main downfall of Linear Ramp, with micro movements not feeling the best. But if you are able to look past that hump, everything else about Linear Ramp feels so much better than Expo Ramp. Even though the official Overwatch ST is supposed to make Expo "linear", I still never could go back to it after using Linear.

I hope an official ST release would be able to somehow take advantage of Aim Ease and fix micromovements while using Linear Ramp. If not, we Linear Ramp users will probably just stick with using the Console Controller Crossover ST.
Using Overwatch ST w/ Linear Ramp & Aim Ease itself FIXES the jumpy Aim of Linear w/o needing a Cross Game Profile or a Ballistics Curve. Im using Default everything including Overwatch ST & Ballistics. Linear is good stuff now & playable.

What value of Ease In are you using with Linear Ramp?
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: AKs0n- on 09:19 PM - 09/02/17
I had to start over so it will be a while before I know that. The Smart Translator already provides linear movement using Exponential Ramp so technically there is no reason to use Linear Ramp but I don't mind comparing the two now that Linear Ramp is usable.

why is linear now usable?  and please do because you have to admit the cult following that linear has gained is abnormal. i think expo is great but who doesnt like better?

I think with the introduction of Aim Ease, while deadzones are still broken and unfixed by Blizzard, Aim Ease at least allows for smoother micro movements. That was the main downfall of Linear Ramp, with micro movements not feeling the best. But if you are able to look past that hump, everything else about Linear Ramp feels so much better than Expo Ramp. Even though the official Overwatch ST is supposed to make Expo "linear", I still never could go back to it after using Linear.

I hope an official ST release would be able to somehow take advantage of Aim Ease and fix micromovements while using Linear Ramp. If not, we Linear Ramp users will probably just stick with using the Console Controller Crossover ST.
Using Overwatch ST w/ Linear Ramp & Aim Ease itself FIXES the jumpy Aim of Linear w/o needing a Cross Game Profile or a Ballistics Curve. Im using Default everything including Overwatch ST & Ballistics. Linear is good stuff now & playable.

What value of Ease In are you using with Linear Ramp?
75~100
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: gunit2004 on 09:31 PM - 09/02/17
I had to start over so it will be a while before I know that. The Smart Translator already provides linear movement using Exponential Ramp so technically there is no reason to use Linear Ramp but I don't mind comparing the two now that Linear Ramp is usable.

why is linear now usable?  and please do because you have to admit the cult following that linear has gained is abnormal. i think expo is great but who doesnt like better?

I think with the introduction of Aim Ease, while deadzones are still broken and unfixed by Blizzard, Aim Ease at least allows for smoother micro movements. That was the main downfall of Linear Ramp, with micro movements not feeling the best. But if you are able to look past that hump, everything else about Linear Ramp feels so much better than Expo Ramp. Even though the official Overwatch ST is supposed to make Expo "linear", I still never could go back to it after using Linear.

I hope an official ST release would be able to somehow take advantage of Aim Ease and fix micromovements while using Linear Ramp. If not, we Linear Ramp users will probably just stick with using the Console Controller Crossover ST.
Using Overwatch ST w/ Linear Ramp & Aim Ease itself FIXES the jumpy Aim of Linear w/o needing a Cross Game Profile or a Ballistics Curve. Im using Default everything including Overwatch ST & Ballistics. Linear is good stuff now & playable.

What value of Ease In are you using with Linear Ramp?
75~100

Oh okay. Linear Ramp with that much Aim Ease is essentially just Expo Ramp again. Perhaps an even stronger Expo Ramp.
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: AKs0n- on 09:38 PM - 09/02/17
Using Linear Ramp + Aim Ease - Aim Assist now over Expo Ramp & Controls are better than ever before.
https://youtu.be/1R7xoyt0eGg
Just to clarify rq

Aim Assist Strength - 0
Aim Assist Window Size - 0
Aim Smoothing - 0
Aim Ease In - 100

When I Tested Linear Ramp in the Vid

Every Vid I've ever posted here was with Aim Assist:OFF
http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=32092.1380
You get used to it after a while.
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: A Big Ol Bully on 10:33 PM - 09/02/17
So I saw this and wanted to try it out quick. I have family visiting and didn't really get to spend time with it but I tried Linear with 0 Aim Ease on the official ST and all of a sudden it's working normal. So odd. maybe it's Xbox only. Will test tomorrow when I have time but one of you might be able to do it quicker.
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: gunit2004 on 11:03 PM - 09/02/17
So I saw this and wanted to try it out quick. I have family visiting and didn't really get to spend time with it but I tried Linear with 0 Aim Ease on the official ST and all of a sudden it's working normal. So odd. maybe it's Xbox only. Will test tomorrow when I have time but one of you might be able to do it quicker.

I tried it just now. Doesn't work properly as usual so you might not have been on Linear Ramp?
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: A Big Ol Bully on 08:51 AM - 09/03/17
So I saw this and wanted to try it out quick. I have family visiting and didn't really get to spend time with it but I tried Linear with 0 Aim Ease on the official ST and all of a sudden it's working normal. So odd. maybe it's Xbox only. Will test tomorrow when I have time but one of you might be able to do it quicker.

I tried it just now. Doesn't work properly as usual so you might not have been on Linear Ramp?
Possible, I was really only half paying attention. Thanks for testing.
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: Skichamp1500 on 12:16 PM - 09/03/17
After blizzard rolled back the update, it felt great, but the roll back did not seem to take effect on the day stated by the blizzard forums, at least for myself. I noticed it rolled back for me a little over 24 hours after the blizzard post.

Then, today when I got on to play I noticed the same feel from before the rollback. Everything felt sluggish. Movements were not as quick or accurate, and the crosshair had a noticeable delay from when I tried to look around/aim.

I am reading a lot of complaints still from the thread https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20758857079. I am concerned that blizzard may have rolled back the change temporarily and tried to implement it again without informing the community in hopes that they had resolved the issue. Also, with the differences in times for myself (and based on other player's forum posts) for when the roll back took effect, I am wondering if blizzard has the ability to release their change little by little rather than to all at once so that it is not as quickly noticed.

Hopefully this is only temporary and it will either not feel this way later or there will be confirmation that a "behind the scenes" change was made without an announcement. Thank you for all the work done with the XIM4. Not sure I would have played Overwatch this long without it.
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: OBsIV on 01:08 PM - 09/03/17
Welcome to the community. I really think Blizzard needs to be careful here. Their artists and designers are the best in the industry, but, their engineers are proving to be far less competent. They are making terrible mistakes and if they continue to do that they will lose what they've built up. Case in point, yesterday I heard one of my kids friends (controller player) talking about how she wants to adjust things to try to make their aim better, but, is overwhelmed by all the settings and has no idea what now "Aim Ease" is supposed to do. She said she read the description of the settings, but, was more confused and frustrated after. Things like this are a huge red flag and should never happen.
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: Mkbnoob on 03:00 PM - 09/03/17
Welcome to the community. I really think Blizzard needs to be careful here. Their artists and designers are the best in the industry, but, their engineers are proving to be far less competent. They are making terrible mistakes and if they continue to do that they will lose what they've built up. Case in point, yesterday I heard one of my kids friends (controller player) talking about how she wants to adjust things to try to make their aim better, but, is overwhelmed by all the settings and has no idea what now "Aim Ease" is supposed to do. She said she read the description of the settings, but, was more confused and frustrated after. Things like this are a huge red flag and should never happen.
You guys cant really rework the st and try to figure what sneaky change they made? Its not like im the only one who feelt something weird,  i mean look at forums half of the people who bough xim are here trying to find better settings for OW.. Dnt even speaking about blizzard forums. I know you are not incompetent like blizzard guys
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: Torderro on 05:26 PM - 09/03/17
Welcome to the community. I really think Blizzard needs to be careful here. Their artists and designers are the best in the industry, but, their engineers are proving to be far less competent. They are making terrible mistakes and if they continue to do that they will lose what they've built up. Case in point, yesterday I heard one of my kids friends (controller player) talking about how she wants to adjust things to try to make their aim better, but, is overwhelmed by all the settings and has no idea what now "Aim Ease" is supposed to do. She said she read the description of the settings, but, was more confused and frustrated after. Things like this are a huge red flag and should never happen.
You guys cant really rework the st and try to figure what sneaky change they made? Its not like im the only one who feelt something weird,  i mean look at forums half of the people who bough xim are here trying to find better settings for OW.. Dnt even speaking about blizzard forums. I know you are not incompetent like blizzard guys

If you're really serious about fixing your over watch settings, listen here.

Uninstall, reinstall the entire Over Watch on your console. It's only 17.9 gigs.
Create an entire new configuration using OW ST.
Start with a very low sensitivity.
0 curve.
No steady aim (make sure Steady aim is OFF)
0 boost.

Expo ramp.
Aim assist strength somewhere you feel comfortable with a certain hero.
AIM ASSIST WINDOW needs to be under 40! If it isn't, the aim assist picks up too soon.
Aim Smoothing 0
Aim ease 0

Bump up the sensitivity until it feels good.

I felt the difference after the update and it never fixed itself. I had to do these steps in order to revert my old feeling for this game.

And please use the highest amount of DPI possible on your mouse.
High DPI allows you to make micro movement adjustments and it's so much better. You don't necessarily want such a high sensitivity in Over Watch. Somewhere medium to slightly fast where you can comfortably track a targe

Hope this helps.!
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: Hellohihello on 05:30 PM - 09/03/17
Any idea if the st will be retrained?

It looks like blizzard reimplemented the ease.aim patch.
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: mist4fun on 05:30 PM - 09/03/17
You guys cant really rework the st and try to figure what sneaky change they made? Its not like im the only one who feelt something weird,  i mean look at forums half of the people who bough xim are here trying to find better settings for OW.. Dnt even speaking about blizzard forums. I know you are not incompetent like blizzard guys

So I've essentially re-trained the game on each platform, the current data matches what we have now. If I were to create a new ST it would be identical. If there is a change it doesn't have to do with the look mechanic.
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: Hellohihello on 05:32 PM - 09/03/17
You guys cant really rework the st and try to figure what sneaky change they made? Its not like im the only one who feelt something weird,  i mean look at forums half of the people who bough xim are here trying to find better settings for OW.. Dnt even speaking about blizzard forums. I know you are not incompetent like blizzard guys

So I've essentially re-trained the game on each platform, the current data matches what we have now. If I were to create a new ST it would be identical. If there is a change it doesn't have to do with the look mechanic.

Weird. Any idea why it seems different/weird. Any way to fix it?

Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: mist4fun on 05:38 PM - 09/03/17
It could be changes to aim assist or how specific heroes or weapon types handle. Battlefield has changes like this every so often for example. Go into a custom game without bots or other players or targets that would trigger aim assist. Movement should feel as expected, it does on my end. To be clear, it doesn't just feel right, the training data matches what is supported. Do you know what else was listed in the recent patch?
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: Renzed19 on 09:28 PM - 09/03/17
Welcome to the community. I really think Blizzard needs to be careful here. Their artists and designers are the best in the industry, but, their engineers are proving to be far less competent. They are making terrible mistakes and if they continue to do that they will lose what they've built up. Case in point, yesterday I heard one of my kids friends (controller player) talking about how she wants to adjust things to try to make their aim better, but, is overwhelmed by all the settings and has no idea what now "Aim Ease" is supposed to do. She said she read the description of the settings, but, was more confused and frustrated after. Things like this are a huge red flag and should never happen.
You guys cant really rework the st and try to figure what sneaky change they made? Its not like im the only one who feelt something weird,  i mean look at forums half of the people who bough xim are here trying to find better settings for OW.. Dnt even speaking about blizzard forums. I know you are not incompetent like blizzard guys


For me i have no problem with the current and recently patched "fix" to the problem they made in the first place. even mist already said that the look mechanic is already the same after the blizzard patch. Anyway what ST do you use?

In the case of what you've said "look at forums half of the people who bought xim are here trying to find better settings for OW.." it's just like me when i got my xim last july. I tried expo but it feels weird and floaty then I read here for many hours "trying to find better settings" and found the linear ccc st then play it for a month or 2 until last week it feels great at first but after playing for almost 2 months, I know in myself that I still dont built muscle memory because i still miss some easy shots with mccree then again I searched for a better settings and luckly I read some insights of admins here specifically od1n regarding the default ST with expo then I give it again a try. Now I became consistent with mccree with this default set up it's really about muscle memory. Maybe it's still personal preference but for me expo is the best set up. I tried linear but it's not that perfect for me compared to expo. For all those still finding the better setup i can say there is none because the default ST will not be the default if it's not the best(maybe for the most of us expo users) i dont regret trying linear because it somehow helped me build muscle memory for this expo ow st because when you try expo ow st for the first time you can really tell it's bad because it feels floaty and when you switched to linear, aiming will feel smoother but as they've said it has @#$% acceleration which doesn't help build consistent shots (for me)

with linear using mccree i had 38-45% accuracy if i spam busting shields of course it will be in 50%, for almost 2months playing with it (it's really inconsistent)

with expo im shocked that i felt great and im hitting almost every shot, my accuracy became above 50% sometimes if i had a bad game my accuracy is still 53% if im feeling good it's in 60% and when it comes hitting shields it will give 5-8% more in the total.

dont easily give up on the official st expo guys it will not feel great in the first place it but once you built your muscle memory with it, you will not find another settings anymore. Thanks to Od1n for his explanation regarding this expo vs linear im really enjoying playing OW with xim. Im still on Plat since i just started playing season 5 but i feel i can easily go up in terms of my play right now, i main mccree and use soldier or tracer sometimes i just need 1 good tank and 1 good healer and im good to go sometimes i can carry games with 50-55% team elimination. I'm just sharing my experience, for me expo is the best.

My settings are below:
In game:
100 vert and horizontal sens
100 AA
10 AAW
0 AS
0 AE
Exponential Ramp

Xim settings are
14hip sens with 6k DPI
no boost
no curve
steady aim ON
Latest firmware version
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: Torderro on 04:22 AM - 09/04/17
You guys cant really rework the st and try to figure what sneaky change they made? Its not like im the only one who feelt something weird,  i mean look at forums half of the people who bough xim are here trying to find better settings for OW.. Dnt even speaking about blizzard forums. I know you are not incompetent like blizzard guys

So I've essentially re-trained the game on each platform, the current data matches what we have now. If I were to create a new ST it would be identical. If there is a change it doesn't have to do with the look mechanic.

Weird. Any idea why it seems different/weird. Any way to fix it?

Is your steady aim OFF? Or On? I noticed an inconsistency with the horizontal aim speed being a little snappier and unpredictable with steady aim ON.
I turned it off and it's pretty much back to how I used to have it back even before the summer games event.

I've also since so called hot fix, I've reinstalled over watch entirely.
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: humanfemale on 05:31 AM - 09/04/17
Here's an idea for anyone willing to fiddle... 

"Aim Ease In" applied to Linear Ramp allows player to shape the curve completely that means a curve can be made that is identical to Titanfall 2 default (aka. "Classic") curve (which is one of the best xim4 games).

Titanfall 2 default curve is exactly one third of their own equivalent scale of "Aim Ease In". The scales do not necessarily have identical ending points (factor 5) so their 30% may not be identical to Overwatch "Aim Ease In" 30%, but 30 is a good starting point.

We don't know how much smoothing Titanfall 2 has but it has some. In Overwatch the aim smoothing slider is kind of trash because the biggest change in smoothing seems to happen between 100 and 90 everything below 90 feels almost the same with barely any difference.

TL;DR Linear Ramp, Aim Ease In 30, load up Titanfall 2 ST and see how the aiming feels. Scale Aim Ease In little bit higher or lower to see if it's any better.
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: Mkbnoob on 09:52 AM - 09/04/17
Here's an idea for anyone willing to fiddle... 

"Aim Ease In" applied to Linear Ramp allows player to shape the curve completely that means a curve can be made that is identical to Titanfall 2 default (aka. "Classic") curve (which is one of the best xim4 games).

Titanfall 2 default curve is exactly one third of their own equivalent scale of "Aim Ease In". The scales do not necessarily have identical ending points (factor 5) so their 30% may not be identical to Overwatch "Aim Ease In" 30%, but 30 is a good starting point.

We don't know how much smoothing Titanfall 2 has but it has some. In Overwatch the aim smoothing slider is kind of trash because the biggest change in smoothing seems to happen between 100 and 90 everything below 90 feels almost the same with ubarely any difference.

TL;DR Linear Ramp, Aim Ease In 30, load up Titanfall 2 ST and see how the aiming feels. Scale Aim Ease In little bit higher or lower to see if it's any better.
Il try these tips thanks for the answer people, i have 4master account i mean i feel like i spend my life on this @#$% game lol, and i can def feel some weird goin on since a few patch. Il try reinstall game, maybe turn off steady.
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: A Big Ol Bully on 11:34 AM - 09/04/17
Here's an idea for anyone willing to fiddle... 

"Aim Ease In" applied to Linear Ramp allows player to shape the curve completely that means a curve can be made that is identical to Titanfall 2 default (aka. "Classic") curve (which is one of the best xim4 games).

Titanfall 2 default curve is exactly one third of their own equivalent scale of "Aim Ease In". The scales do not necessarily have identical ending points (factor 5) so their 30% may not be identical to Overwatch "Aim Ease In" 30%, but 30 is a good starting point.

We don't know how much smoothing Titanfall 2 has but it has some. In Overwatch the aim smoothing slider is kind of trash because the biggest change in smoothing seems to happen between 100 and 90 everything below 90 feels almost the same with barely any difference.

TL;DR Linear Ramp, Aim Ease In 30, load up Titanfall 2 ST and see how the aiming feels. Scale Aim Ease In little bit higher or lower to see if it's any better.
Tried it, not bad but crap at micro movements. I always try to write my name as small as possible on the wall.
A fun thing is take your PC and write your name using Paint. then trying to draw your name on OW. (obviously it's a bit harder to compare since you can't see your results) but you can get the idea and it should feel very simular. If not then that's that "swimming" feeling people feel. With this setup above, that's really bad, I'm sticking with my Linear mountain curve. Still the most PC feeling thing out there (with 0 aim assist)
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: A Big Ol Bully on 11:49 AM - 09/04/17
Welcome to the community. I really think Blizzard needs to be careful here. Their artists and designers are the best in the industry, but, their engineers are proving to be far less competent. They are making terrible mistakes and if they continue to do that they will lose what they've built up. Case in point, yesterday I heard one of my kids friends (controller player) talking about how she wants to adjust things to try to make their aim better, but, is overwhelmed by all the settings and has no idea what now "Aim Ease" is supposed to do. She said she read the description of the settings, but, was more confused and frustrated after. Things like this are a huge red flag and should never happen.
You guys cant really rework the st and try to figure what sneaky change they made? Its not like im the only one who feelt something weird,  i mean look at forums half of the people who bough xim are here trying to find better settings for OW.. Dnt even speaking about blizzard forums. I know you are not incompetent like blizzard guys


For me i have no problem with the current and recently patched "fix" to the problem they made in the first place. even mist already said that the look mechanic is already the same after the blizzard patch. Anyway what ST do you use?

In the case of what you've said "look at forums half of the people who bought xim are here trying to find better settings for OW.." it's just like me when i got my xim last july. I tried expo but it feels weird and floaty then I read here for many hours "trying to find better settings" and found the linear ccc st then play it for a month or 2 until last week it feels great at first but after playing for almost 2 months, I know in myself that I still dont built muscle memory because i still miss some easy shots with mccree then again I searched for a better settings and luckly I read some insights of admins here specifically od1n regarding the default ST with expo then I give it again a try. Now I became consistent with mccree with this default set up it's really about muscle memory. Maybe it's still personal preference but for me expo is the best set up. I tried linear but it's not that perfect for me compared to expo. For all those still finding the better setup i can say there is none because the default ST will not be the default if it's not the best(maybe for the most of us expo users) i dont regret trying linear because it somehow helped me build muscle memory for this expo ow st because when you try expo ow st for the first time you can really tell it's bad because it feels floaty and when you switched to linear, aiming will feel smoother but as they've said it has @#$% acceleration which doesn't help build consistent shots (for me)

with linear using mccree i had 38-45% accuracy if i spam busting shields of course it will be in 50%, for almost 2months playing with it (it's really inconsistent)

with expo im shocked that i felt great and im hitting almost every shot, my accuracy became above 50% sometimes if i had a bad game my accuracy is still 53% if im feeling good it's in 60% and when it comes hitting shields it will give 5-8% more in the total.

dont easily give up on the official st expo guys it will not feel great in the first place it but once you built your muscle memory with it, you will not find another settings anymore. Thanks to Od1n for his explanation regarding this expo vs linear im really enjoying playing OW with xim. Im still on Plat since i just started playing season 5 but i feel i can easily go up in terms of my play right now, i main mccree and use soldier or tracer sometimes i just need 1 good tank and 1 good healer and im good to go sometimes i can carry games with 50-55% team elimination. I'm just sharing my experience, for me expo is the best.

My settings are below:
In game:
100 vert and horizontal sens
100 AA
10 AAW
0 AS
0 AE
Exponential Ramp

Xim settings are
14hip sens with 6k DPI
no boost
no curve
steady aim ON
Latest firmware version
Glad Expo is working for you man(?). It really comes down to what you want.
i think the reason there is so much confusion here is that we have 2 different goals.
Some of us want to have the highest accuracy and be in the best settings to do well and not miss shots. The other half of us want to emulate PC controls as close as possible. This is just me guessing but I have a feeling that line parallels with those of us that play PC and Console vs players that really only use the Xim and rarely play PC.

LESSON TO LEARN

1) If you want the best, smoothest aim that will get you the highest damage and accuracy then go Expo with 100% aim Assist. Official Overwatch ST with no curve or boost

2) If you play PC and have built muscle memory from games like CS:GO or Unreal then you go with Linear (IHMO with my settings) and 0 Aim Assist. You'll miss shots but you'll find your stats will be on par with PC.

Pick your poison but lets not confuse the 2, it should help clear up a bit on this forum.

Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: Torderro on 12:49 PM - 09/04/17
Welcome to the community. I really think Blizzard needs to be careful here. Their artists and designers are the best in the industry, but, their engineers are proving to be far less competent. They are making terrible mistakes and if they continue to do that they will lose what they've built up. Case in point, yesterday I heard one of my kids friends (controller player) talking about how she wants to adjust things to try to make their aim better, but, is overwhelmed by all the settings and has no idea what now "Aim Ease" is supposed to do. She said she read the description of the settings, but, was more confused and frustrated after. Things like this are a huge red flag and should never happen.
You guys cant really rework the st and try to figure what sneaky change they made? Its not like im the only one who feelt something weird,  i mean look at forums half of the people who bough xim are here trying to find better settings for OW.. Dnt even speaking about blizzard forums. I know you are not incompetent like blizzard guys


For me i have no problem with the current and recently patched "fix" to the problem they made in the first place. even mist already said that the look mechanic is already the same after the blizzard patch. Anyway what ST do you use?

In the case of what you've said "look at forums half of the people who bought xim are here trying to find better settings for OW.." it's just like me when i got my xim last july. I tried expo but it feels weird and floaty then I read here for many hours "trying to find better settings" and found the linear ccc st then play it for a month or 2 until last week it feels great at first but after playing for almost 2 months, I know in myself that I still dont built muscle memory because i still miss some easy shots with mccree then again I searched for a better settings and luckly I read some insights of admins here specifically od1n regarding the default ST with expo then I give it again a try. Now I became consistent with mccree with this default set up it's really about muscle memory. Maybe it's still personal preference but for me expo is the best set up. I tried linear but it's not that perfect for me compared to expo. For all those still finding the better setup i can say there is none because the default ST will not be the default if it's not the best(maybe for the most of us expo users) i dont regret trying linear because it somehow helped me build muscle memory for this expo ow st because when you try expo ow st for the first time you can really tell it's bad because it feels floaty and when you switched to linear, aiming will feel smoother but as they've said it has @#$% acceleration which doesn't help build consistent shots (for me)

with linear using mccree i had 38-45% accuracy if i spam busting shields of course it will be in 50%, for almost 2months playing with it (it's really inconsistent)

with expo im shocked that i felt great and im hitting almost every shot, my accuracy became above 50% sometimes if i had a bad game my accuracy is still 53% if im feeling good it's in 60% and when it comes hitting shields it will give 5-8% more in the total.

dont easily give up on the official st expo guys it will not feel great in the first place it but once you built your muscle memory with it, you will not find another settings anymore. Thanks to Od1n for his explanation regarding this expo vs linear im really enjoying playing OW with xim. Im still on Plat since i just started playing season 5 but i feel i can easily go up in terms of my play right now, i main mccree and use soldier or tracer sometimes i just need 1 good tank and 1 good healer and im good to go sometimes i can carry games with 50-55% team elimination. I'm just sharing my experience, for me expo is the best.

My settings are below:
In game:
100 vert and horizontal sens
100 AA
10 AAW
0 AS
0 AE
Exponential Ramp

Xim settings are
14hip sens with 6k DPI
no boost
no curve
steady aim ON
Latest firmware version
Glad Expo is working for you man(?). It really comes down to what you want.
i think the reason there is so much confusion here is that we have 2 different goals.
Some of us want to have the highest accuracy and be in the best settings to do well and not miss shots. The other half of us want to emulate PC controls as close as possible. This is just me guessing but I have a feeling that line parallels with those of us that play PC and Console vs players that really only use the Xim and rarely play PC.

LESSON TO LEARN

1) If you want the best, smoothest aim that will get you the highest damage and accuracy then go Expo with 100% aim Assist. Official Overwatch ST with no curve or boost

2) If you play PC and have built muscle memory from games like CS:GO or Unreal then you go with Linear (IHMO with my settings) and 0 Aim Assist. You'll miss shots but you'll find your stats will be on par with PC.

Pick your poison but lets not confuse the 2, it should help clear up a bit on this forum.

Hey big ol bully! I want to try both ends of the spectrum, I used the basic vanilla linier ramp a couple nights ago it was copy and paste heaven, worked like a charm, but still didn't feel like my old Expo ramp love with 80 Aim assist.

I'm curious to see how your mountain curves work with 0 assists on for the PC feeling again.
I'd like to test them both out agaisnt lucio/ana bots 100 kills accuracy test.
do you have a copy pasta for your current go-to config now?
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: A Big Ol Bully on 12:55 PM - 09/04/17
Welcome to the community. I really think Blizzard needs to be careful here. Their artists and designers are the best in the industry, but, their engineers are proving to be far less competent. They are making terrible mistakes and if they continue to do that they will lose what they've built up. Case in point, yesterday I heard one of my kids friends (controller player) talking about how she wants to adjust things to try to make their aim better, but, is overwhelmed by all the settings and has no idea what now "Aim Ease" is supposed to do. She said she read the description of the settings, but, was more confused and frustrated after. Things like this are a huge red flag and should never happen.
You guys cant really rework the st and try to figure what sneaky change they made? Its not like im the only one who feelt something weird,  i mean look at forums half of the people who bough xim are here trying to find better settings for OW.. Dnt even speaking about blizzard forums. I know you are not incompetent like blizzard guys


For me i have no problem with the current and recently patched "fix" to the problem they made in the first place. even mist already said that the look mechanic is already the same after the blizzard patch. Anyway what ST do you use?

In the case of what you've said "look at forums half of the people who bought xim are here trying to find better settings for OW.." it's just like me when i got my xim last july. I tried expo but it feels weird and floaty then I read here for many hours "trying to find better settings" and found the linear ccc st then play it for a month or 2 until last week it feels great at first but after playing for almost 2 months, I know in myself that I still dont built muscle memory because i still miss some easy shots with mccree then again I searched for a better settings and luckly I read some insights of admins here specifically od1n regarding the default ST with expo then I give it again a try. Now I became consistent with mccree with this default set up it's really about muscle memory. Maybe it's still personal preference but for me expo is the best set up. I tried linear but it's not that perfect for me compared to expo. For all those still finding the better setup i can say there is none because the default ST will not be the default if it's not the best(maybe for the most of us expo users) i dont regret trying linear because it somehow helped me build muscle memory for this expo ow st because when you try expo ow st for the first time you can really tell it's bad because it feels floaty and when you switched to linear, aiming will feel smoother but as they've said it has @#$% acceleration which doesn't help build consistent shots (for me)

with linear using mccree i had 38-45% accuracy if i spam busting shields of course it will be in 50%, for almost 2months playing with it (it's really inconsistent)

with expo im shocked that i felt great and im hitting almost every shot, my accuracy became above 50% sometimes if i had a bad game my accuracy is still 53% if im feeling good it's in 60% and when it comes hitting shields it will give 5-8% more in the total.

dont easily give up on the official st expo guys it will not feel great in the first place it but once you built your muscle memory with it, you will not find another settings anymore. Thanks to Od1n for his explanation regarding this expo vs linear im really enjoying playing OW with xim. Im still on Plat since i just started playing season 5 but i feel i can easily go up in terms of my play right now, i main mccree and use soldier or tracer sometimes i just need 1 good tank and 1 good healer and im good to go sometimes i can carry games with 50-55% team elimination. I'm just sharing my experience, for me expo is the best.

My settings are below:
In game:
100 vert and horizontal sens
100 AA
10 AAW
0 AS
0 AE
Exponential Ramp

Xim settings are
14hip sens with 6k DPI
no boost
no curve
steady aim ON
Latest firmware version
Glad Expo is working for you man(?). It really comes down to what you want.
i think the reason there is so much confusion here is that we have 2 different goals.
Some of us want to have the highest accuracy and be in the best settings to do well and not miss shots. The other half of us want to emulate PC controls as close as possible. This is just me guessing but I have a feeling that line parallels with those of us that play PC and Console vs players that really only use the Xim and rarely play PC.

LESSON TO LEARN

1) If you want the best, smoothest aim that will get you the highest damage and accuracy then go Expo with 100% aim Assist. Official Overwatch ST with no curve or boost

2) If you play PC and have built muscle memory from games like CS:GO or Unreal then you go with Linear (IHMO with my settings) and 0 Aim Assist. You'll miss shots but you'll find your stats will be on par with PC.

Pick your poison but lets not confuse the 2, it should help clear up a bit on this forum.

Hey big ol bully! I want to try both ends of the spectrum, I used the basic vanilla linear ramp a couple nights ago it was copy and paste heaven, worked like a charm, but still didn't feel like my old Expo ramp love with 80 Aim assist.

I'm curious to see how your mountain curves work with 0 assists on for the PC feeling again.
I'd like to test them both out agaisnt lucio/ana bots 100 kills accuracy test.
do you have a copy pasta for your current go-to config now?
All my configs are in my signature below.
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: neat on 02:42 AM - 09/05/17
Havent read every single post in here but my two cents are that Expo is still the best way to go if you want to get consistently better working on your muscle memory.

I've only had the XIM for about 5 months and only played OW for about 6-7 months, but since getting the XIM and playing with the recommended expo settings with slight adjustments i've peaked at 4350 sr last season, currently at 4k this season.

The XIM is really carrying my pc fps skills from my childhood to the PS4 now, so thank you to Od1n and mist and the rest of the team, you guys deserve more applauds! (Hopefully you are making decent money on the venture :) )
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: BODiiES on 07:34 AM - 09/06/17
honestly didn't know any of these changes was happening :o i just stuck to my same settings and didn't notice a thing.'
Maybe that could be a issue for people changing their settings so often not developing any muscle memory?
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: Lineater on 07:51 AM - 09/06/17
honestly didn't know any of these changes was happening :o i just stuck to my same settings and didn't notice a thing.'
Maybe that could be a issue for people changing their settings so often not developing any muscle memory?

Nah, I think the people noticing changes were expo players. The change was rolled back according to Blizzard, so if they're being honest the change was live for 24 hours or less after the patch came out last week.
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: Magnetos hate on 01:07 PM - 09/06/17
honestly didn't know any of these changes was happening :o i just stuck to my same settings and didn't notice a thing.'
Maybe that could be a issue for people changing their settings so often not developing any muscle memory?

Nah, I think the people noticing changes were expo players. The change was rolled back according to Blizzard, so if they're being honest the change was live for 24 hours or less after the patch came out last week.

I'm going to be honest, there's a weird feeling I get when I play overwatch since that patch and following hotfix. My hitscan seems to feel just off.... Just a little different and I can't put my finger on it. I changed 0 settings and aim ease is at 0.
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: A Big Ol Bully on 01:22 PM - 09/06/17
honestly didn't know any of these changes was happening :o i just stuck to my same settings and didn't notice a thing.'
Maybe that could be a issue for people changing their settings so often not developing any muscle memory?

Nah, I think the people noticing changes were expo players. The change was rolled back according to Blizzard, so if they're being honest the change was live for 24 hours or less after the patch came out last week.

I'm going to be honest, there's a weird feeling I get when I play overwatch since that patch and following hotfix. My hitscan seems to feel just off.... Just a little different and I can't put my finger on it. I changed 0 settings and aim ease is at 0.
Agreed!
I think I may be done with OW myself. It's not fun learning a new aim technique every 2 weeks and I just don't like Expo. I guess Blizzard got what they wanted, the xim players leaving but I myself buy a $20 loot crate every time there's a new event, so joke's on them I guess.
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: Lineater on 01:59 PM - 09/06/17
Welcome to the community. I really think Blizzard needs to be careful here. Their artists and designers are the best in the industry, but, their engineers are proving to be far less competent. They are making terrible mistakes and if they continue to do that they will lose what they've built up. Case in point, yesterday I heard one of my kids friends (controller player) talking about how she wants to adjust things to try to make their aim better, but, is overwhelmed by all the settings and has no idea what now "Aim Ease" is supposed to do. She said she read the description of the settings, but, was more confused and frustrated after. Things like this are a huge red flag and should never happen.

I can relate, I'm a grown man with a college degree and I still  don't completely understand aim ease in.
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: Renzed19 on 09:31 PM - 09/06/17
Havent read every single post in here but my two cents are that Expo is still the best way to go if you want to get consistently better working on your muscle memory.

I've only had the XIM for about 5 months and only played OW for about 6-7 months, but since getting the XIM and playing with the recommended expo settings with slight adjustments i've peaked at 4350 sr last season, currently at 4k this season.

The XIM is really carrying my pc fps skills from my childhood to the PS4 now, so thank you to Od1n and mist and the rest of the team, you guys deserve more applauds! (Hopefully you are making decent money on the venture :) )

Yeah. I agreed to this. Ever since i switched to expo from linear im really enjoying xim right now. Big thanks for Od1n and mist for answering our questions. More power to you guys!
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: Renzed19 on 09:36 PM - 09/06/17
honestly didn't know any of these changes was happening :o i just stuck to my same settings and didn't notice a thing.'
Maybe that could be a issue for people changing their settings so often not developing any muscle memory?

Nah, I think the people noticing changes were expo players. The change was rolled back according to Blizzard, so if they're being honest the change was live for 24 hours or less after the patch came out last week.

I'm going to be honest, there's a weird feeling I get when I play overwatch since that patch and following hotfix. My hitscan seems to feel just off.... Just a little different and I can't put my finger on it. I changed 0 settings and aim ease is at 0.
Agreed!
I think I may be done with OW myself. It's not fun learning a new aim technique every 2 weeks and I just don't like Expo. I guess Blizzard got what they wanted, the xim players leaving but I myself buy a $20 loot crate every time there's a new event, so joke's on them I guess.

I guess playing on PC and PS4/XBOX is really hard when you want to achieve PC aiming on console with xim. For me I just play on PS4 and playing OW in my free time after work. Just bought the xim for maximum advantage.
Title: Re: Overwatch new update 2.18 new option "Aim Ease" is this what are we waiting for?
Post by: EvilSparx on 03:54 PM - 09/11/17
Now that the diagonals being broken with aim ease are going to be fixed, would it be possible for a new ST? I feel like training the ST to something closer to linear with a more predicatable exponential curve (unlike the hand drawn exponential ramp) would feel better.

Exponential ramp ST may have a lot to work with when it comes to slow aim movements, but when it comes to sharp and snappy movements the ST has less speeds to work with and so it feels a bit sloppy.

Using linear ramp with the smallest amount of aim ease required to make micro movements feels good would leave more higher speeds available to the ST due a ramp which curves less near the higher end.

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20758857079?page=25#post-496