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Title: Overwatch Aim Assist Window Size Setting.
Post by: Zationysk on 02:41 PM - 05/23/17
Post your settings, including the new one,  and if u can a screenshot of ur in game accuracy after a match so we can see if we find the best size for us Xim4 users.

I will play with it and post mine later.
Title: Re: Overwatch Aim Assist Window Size Setting.
Post by: Zationysk on 05:57 PM - 05/23/17
I have it on 0 right now. My accuracy went down a bit but I like it so far.
Title: Re: Overwatch Aim Assist Window Size Setting.
Post by: Supernatural X on 07:58 PM - 05/23/17
Does this update change the AA bubble around a target? I haven't been able to test it yet because i've been out but if it is that would be extremely good.
Title: Re: Overwatch Aim Assist Window Size Setting.
Post by: gunit2004 on 08:25 PM - 05/23/17
Does this update change the AA bubble around a target? I haven't been able to test it yet because i've been out but if it is that would be extremely good.

Yep.

Basically,

100 = default setting, the AA bubble we have had up till now (very big)

0 = AA only engages when you are on the characters model

0 does sound like it would be really good but might not be best for people who tend to overshoot past the characters model as it might be harder to readjust.

I think it will come down to personal preference, just as some people like lowering aim assist STRENGHTH for certain heroes.
Title: Re: Overwatch Aim Assist Window Size Setting.
Post by: Supernatural X on 08:40 PM - 05/23/17
Does this update change the AA bubble around a target? I haven't been able to test it yet because i've been out but if it is that would be extremely good.

Yep.

Basically,

100 = default setting, the AA bubble we have had up till now (very big)

0 = AA only engages when you are on the characters model

0 does sound like it would be really good but might not be best for people who tend to overshoot past the characters model as it might be harder to readjust.

I think it will come down to personal preference, just as some people like lowering aim assist STRENGHTH for certain heroes.

I feel like AA at 100% and Bubble at 0% would be good.
Title: Re: Overwatch Aim Assist Window Size Setting.
Post by: EvilSparx on 11:15 PM - 05/23/17
After doing a bit of testing I have found that the best is around 20-30%. When I tried with 0, it seems that for taller characters such as Ana and widow, the aim bubble doesn't encapsulate their heads, so you essentially get no aim assist if you swipe your cross hair across their heads. This could be due to the fact that blizzard have implemented a circular aim bubble rather than it using the hit boxes.

Setting it to 20-30% manages to include heads, however makes the slow down happen earlier for body shots when aiming across them.
Title: Re: Overwatch Aim Assist Window Size Setting.
Post by: KAL-EL on 03:14 AM - 05/24/17
Hi, where will i find these settings to change them?
Title: Re: Overwatch Aim Assist Window Size Setting.
Post by: goaty on 03:30 AM - 05/24/17
in game under controls--> advanced

I tried it at 0 yesterday. I could definitely sense the difference, still need to adjust to it. On widow it was hitting shots I wouldn't always hit before, and overshooting some shots I normally make. Overall my accuracy didn't suffer and I was critting more

Zen and pharah felt amazing with 0.

On Soldier my accuracy was a few % lower, but at the end of the game I was doing fine.

Gonna try 10-20 tonight

Oh and i put aim assist at 100
Title: Re: Overwatch Aim Assist Window Size Setting.
Post by: Zationysk on 06:37 AM - 05/24/17
I am still using it at 0 and loving it. Alter I got used to it my accuracy went back to what it use to be 52-60ish on most matches. And now I don't feel like my aim is going everywhere during team fight. Also mid-long range head shots with soldier feel better as well.

Maybe abit more like 5 or maybe 10 could be good but for now I think I am going to stick with this.

I had to lower my hip sensitivity from 8 to 7 since I don't need to fight the aim assist anymore.

Here my settings if anyone wants to try.

12k dpi, 7 hip sen, 2.87 for widow and ana ads, no boost, no curve, no steady aim.
In game: all at a 100 except aim smoothing and aim assist window size that are at 0 now.
Title: Re: Overwatch Aim Assist Window Size Setting.
Post by: EvilSparx on 07:00 AM - 05/24/17
I take back what I said, turns out I was accidentally turning down the aim assist and not the actual bubble, 0 feels pretty good
Title: Re: Overwatch Aim Assist Window Size Setting.
Post by: Taktikz on 07:50 AM - 05/24/17
I reckon Pharah + Zen I'll put it right down to 0 with 0 Aim Assist.

I'm going to try it at 30-40 tonight for all other characters with 90-100 Aim Assist.

I didn't even know this was in the update until I did my usually daily browse of these forums :-) Awesome community !

Be interesting to hear more thoughts from other players who have been testing around with it.
Title: Re: Overwatch Aim Assist Window Size Setting.
Post by: Dylan86 on 10:22 AM - 05/24/17
I really think its personal preference... although I will agree definitely lower it from 100. I've been using different settings for each hero. So someone long range  like widow I've been using 25, medium range soldier 50 and close range tracer 85. I'm still not rock solid on that and plenty more testing to be done but it's been serving me well so far at a GM level(4106sr ATM)
Title: Re: Overwatch Aim Assist Window Size Setting.
Post by: KAL-EL on 12:26 PM - 05/24/17
cheers for info guys. Much appreciated.
Title: Re: Overwatch Aim Assist Window Size Setting.
Post by: Supernatural X on 05:10 PM - 05/24/17
Alright boys I think I found a really nice spot for all characters 100% Aim Assist on all characters.

Widowmaker: 10% Aim Assist Window
All other characters: 50% Aim Assist Window

I run no boost, no curve, steady aim on and I have max sens ingame and max scoped sens. My Xim sens is 4.75 hip and 2.00 ADS (I think not 100% sure) ran at 12k DPI on a small hard mouse pad.

Don't have a screenshot because I forgot to but I had 61% Scoped accuracy as Widow, and I had 69% accuracy as McCree.
Title: Re: Overwatch Aim Assist Window Size Setting.
Post by: Taktikz on 03:02 AM - 05/25/17
Alright boys I think I found a really nice spot for all characters 100% Aim Assist on all characters.

Widowmaker: 10% Aim Assist Window
All other characters: 50% Aim Assist Window

I run no boost, no curve, steady aim on and I have max sens ingame and max scoped sens. My Xim sens is 4.75 hip and 2.00 ADS (I think not 100% sure) ran at 12k DPI on a small hard mouse pad.

Don't have a screenshot because I forgot to but I had 61% Scoped accuracy as Widow, and I had 69% accuracy as McCree.

I concur, I was playing last night with 50% Aim Assist Window + 100% Aim Assist and it felt nice. Also same DPI as you, although my XIM sens is at 14 which I like.

Title: Re: Overwatch Aim Assist Window Size Setting.
Post by: Logsi on 04:12 AM - 05/25/17
Will give these a try tonight. Was on 80% aim assist and 40% windows and seemed nice.

I'm sure my sensitivity is 22 with the G502 set to 12k dpi with 500hz polling.

I always trigger the capability of the ST.
Title: Re: Overwatch Aim Assist Window Size Setting.
Post by: Zationysk on 05:32 AM - 05/25/17
Guys, check this video:

https://youtu.be/zRS54CZTDpo

It gives us a pretty good idea of how the aim assist window works at 100, 50 and 0. I still feel like 0 is the best and I sugest everyone try it out for a few games.

It felt weird at first and I felt like my accuracy went down but after lowering my sensitivity from 8 to 7 at 12k dpi and practicing some more it feels amazing. This is the best overwatch has ever felt to me.
Title: Re: Overwatch Aim Assist Window Size Setting.
Post by: Taktikz on 06:35 AM - 05/25/17
^^ Why 0?

Also your video is not working...

With 0 wouldn't it be harder to track Pharah in the air with Soldier at a distance?
Title: Re: Overwatch Aim Assist Window Size Setting.
Post by: Zationysk on 07:40 AM - 05/25/17
^^ Why 0?

Also your video is not working...

With 0 wouldn't it be harder to track Pharah in the air with Soldier at a distance?

Copy and paste this link https://youtu.be/zRS54CZTDpo

With my settings I have no issues tracking Pharas and most of the times I manage to hit head shots on them and that is usually the only way to kill them fast enough at long range with soldier.

The main component of the aim assist in this game is to slow down the aim near the target. At 0 it slows down ON the target. I think that as long as ur sensitivity is not too high it should be fine.
Title: Re: Overwatch Aim Assist Window Size Setting.
Post by: Taktikz on 07:46 AM - 05/25/17
^^ Why 0?

Also your video is not working...

With 0 wouldn't it be harder to track Pharah in the air with Soldier at a distance?

Copy and paste this link https://youtu.be/zRS54CZTDpo

With my settings I have no issues tracking Pharas and most of the times I manage to hit head shots on them and that is usually the only way to kill them fast enough at long range with soldier.

The main component of the aim assist in this game is to slow down the aim near the target. At 0 it slows down ON the target. I think that as long as ur sensitivity is not too high it should be fine.

Roger that, my sens is currently at 15, I will give it a go at 0 tonight and also lower my sens perhaps. I'm currently using 50% window, 100& AA.
Title: Re: Overwatch Aim Assist Window Size Setting.
Post by: Taktikz on 09:17 AM - 05/25/17
Zatlon, question... does a sensitivity of 7 feel too slow for characters where you wanna turn quickly like Genji?

Is it alot of arm movement or is it fine? I also use 12k dpi so I'm curious. My sens is 14 or 15 at the moment, can't imagine playing with 7 sounds like alot of arm movement and mouse dragging to me?
Title: Re: Overwatch Aim Assist Window Size Setting.
Post by: Zationysk on 10:36 AM - 05/25/17
Zatlon, question... does a sensitivity of 7 feel too slow for characters where you wanna turn quickly like Genji?

Is it alot of arm movement or is it fine? I also use 12k dpi so I'm curious. My sens is 14 or 15 at the moment, can't imagine playing with 7 sounds like alot of arm movement and mouse dragging to me?

Ever since I got Xim4 I focus more on precision/hit scan characters. Getting head shots is a big part of the fun for me. So yea my settings focus more on that.

That being said I can play tracer on grand master level and win matches. Usually I only get tracer tho when we are losing and my  team is not focus firing. Soldier can kill targets solo but not vs an organize team with good healers. In those cases tracer is a lot better for that. But that is besides the point here XD

Gengi I don't hav enough experience with him. But I never feel like I have a hard time turning fast enough with any character.

I do have a pretty huge mouse pad tho. And I do aim with my arm and do small adjustments with wrist. So yea if u don't have the space to try lower sensitivity just try to lower it as much as u can and do 360s without going over the edge of ur mousepad. Otherwise u will have to pick up ur mouse a lot and at that point it's probably better to use higher sensitivity instead.

Xim4 is not the same as PC cause of turn speed limits and all that but I do feel like lower sensitivity is a lot better for precision, for most ppl, kinda like PC.

If u do decide to give lower sensitivity a shot make sure u stick with it for awhile. It is frustrating at first but worth it IMO.
Title: Re: Overwatch Aim Assist Window Size Setting.
Post by: Taktikz on 10:58 AM - 05/25/17
Zatlon, question... does a sensitivity of 7 feel too slow for characters where you wanna turn quickly like Genji?

Is it alot of arm movement or is it fine? I also use 12k dpi so I'm curious. My sens is 14 or 15 at the moment, can't imagine playing with 7 sounds like alot of arm movement and mouse dragging to me?

Ever since I got Xim4 I focus more on precision/hit scan characters. Getting head shots is a big part of the fun for me. So yea my settings focus more on that.

That being said I can play tracer on grand master level and win matches. Usually I only get tracer tho when we are losing and my  team is not focus firing. Soldier can kill targets solo but not vs an organize team with good healers. In those cases tracer is a lot better for that. But that is besides the point here XD

Gengi I don't hav enough experience with him. But I never feel like I have a hard time turning fast enough with any character.

I do have a pretty huge mouse pad tho. And I do aim with my arm and do small adjustments with wrist. So yea if u don't have the space to try lower sensitivity just try to lower it as much as u can and do 360s without going over the edge of ur mousepad. Otherwise u will have to pick up ur mouse a lot and at that point it's probably better to use higher sensitivity instead.

Xim4 is not the same as PC cause of turn speed limits and all that but I do feel like lower sensitivity is a lot better for precision, for most ppl, kinda like PC.

If u do decide to give lower sensitivity a shot make sure u stick with it for awhile. It is frustrating at first but worth it IMO.

ok I just tried 8 sens n its way too much lifting of the mouse to do 180 turns for me, I play from sofa with 60inch tv, cloth mouse pad rested on a dinner tray to my right hand side, sounds weird but it's super comfortable. I have put it up to 10 sens and it feels better, can do 180s without having to lift mouse to readjust and aim also feels accurate.

Would you think the higher sens I should increase the window from 0 to 10 perhaps?
Title: Re: Overwatch Aim Assist Window Size Setting.
Post by: Zationysk on 11:11 AM - 05/25/17
Would you think the higher sens I should increase the window from 0 to 10 perhaps?

Not sure but try this.

Go to the training area. Put ur aim on one of the robots and move around while trying to keep ur aim on its head. Then try that again on one of the moving robots. If u can't then change ur settings until u find something that feels the best while doing that.
Title: Re: Overwatch Aim Assist Window Size Setting.
Post by: neat on 11:12 AM - 05/25/17
^^ Why 0?

Also your video is not working...

With 0 wouldn't it be harder to track Pharah in the air with Soldier at a distance?

Copy and paste this link https://youtu.be/zRS54CZTDpo

With my settings I have no issues tracking Pharas and most of the times I manage to hit head shots on them and that is usually the only way to kill them fast enough at long range with soldier.

The main component of the aim assist in this game is to slow down the aim near the target. At 0 it slows down ON the target. I think that as long as ur sensitivity is not too high it should be fine.

Do you have 100 % Aim assist and 0 % aim assist window on every hero? I also main McCree/Soldier with the occasional Roadhog/Ana/Widowmaker
Title: Re: Overwatch Aim Assist Window Size Setting.
Post by: neat on 11:13 AM - 05/25/17
And what does Steady Aim even do for OW? Do you use it for every hero aswell?
Title: Re: Overwatch Aim Assist Window Size Setting.
Post by: Zationysk on 11:21 AM - 05/25/17
Do you have 100 % Aim assist and 0 % aim assist window on every hero? I also main McCree/Soldier with the occasional Roadhog/Ana/Widowmaker

And what does Steady Aim even do for OW? Do you use it for every hero aswell?

Yes every hero.

I don't use steady aim.

I dont know how to explain how steady aim works XD there are diferent versions of it depending on the firmware u are using and u can download specific ones. There is a forum post about it somewhere. I tested the basic one and I don't think it's needed for overwatch. However I read here about some ppl who use it so who knows...
Title: Re: Overwatch Aim Assist Window Size Setting.
Post by: Taktikz on 11:23 AM - 05/25/17
I currently have 100% Aa on every hero except Pharah which i have at 0. I just tried 10 AAW n it felt nice. I think its going to depend on your XIM Sens AAW will be between 0-30. Low sens players can use 0, higher sens players anything up to 30 for AAW.
Title: Re: Overwatch Aim Assist Window Size Setting.
Post by: Mjölnir on 12:05 PM - 05/25/17
I guess now we can adjust the "aim bubble", putting 100 AA (Aim Assist) and lower a lot AAW (Aim Assist Window) is really good because with AAW at 0 it lowers your sense ONLY when you're ON the target.

And if you're failing to aim, just lower your sense or rise the AAW (not higher than 30 would be great I think).

Actually I'm needing precise aiming because of Soldier/Widow/Ana/Roadhog, but also need fast turn with Tracer, so I guess I'm going to put the sense I need to do a 180 easily and then adjust AAW to get precise aiming. With all characters I love to be able to do a 180 easily, because I hate dying because I have been killed from behind, so with all characters I need it (again it's due to consoles turn limits). Or try a curve which allow me to keep low sense and turn fast.
Title: Re: Overwatch Aim Assist Window Size Setting.
Post by: Taktikz on 12:53 PM - 05/25/17
Ok guys, try this, I swear to god these settings are the nuts;

Aim Assist 100
Aim Assist Window 10
12K DPI
Steady Aim On
XIM Sensitivity 11
For Widowmaker adjust relative zoom to 80
No Curve
No Boost
Aim Smoothing 0
Expo Ramp
Recoil Compensation Off

Try this, I am landing shots with every character with insane precision now, I barely miss a shot with McRee. Also allows 180 turns without needing any arm work or mouse lifts for Tracer/Genji. It feels so @#$% good. I'm even landing shots with Hanzo which before I'd always miss. Perfect.
Title: Re: Overwatch Aim Assist Window Size Setting.
Post by: Zationysk on 02:08 PM - 05/25/17
Ok guys, try this, I swear to god these settings are the nuts;

Aim Assist 100
Aim Assist Window 10
12K DPI
Steady Aim On
XIM Sensitivity 11
For Widowmaker adjust relative zoom to 80
No Curve
No Boost
Aim Smoothing 0
Expo Ramp
Recoil Compensation Off

Try this, I am landing shots with every character with insane precision now, I barely miss a shot with McRee. Also allows 180 turns without needing any arm work or mouse lifts for Tracer/Genji. It feels so @#$% good. I'm even landing shots with Hanzo which before I'd always miss. Perfect.

I think for widowmaker u should keep relative aim at 100 and if u think it's too fast adjust the ads sensitivity accordingly. Cause if u put anything less than max in game sensitivity u limit what the Xim can work with and I think that may apply to the relative zoom as well even tho u probably won't be doing full turns with ads XD

Unless u did that to avoid using a delay for the ads key or creat a new overwatch config.
Title: Re: Overwatch Aim Assist Window Size Setting.
Post by: donatello on 03:19 PM - 05/25/17
I guess now we can adjust the "aim bubble", putting 100 AA (Aim Assist) and lower a lot AAW (Aim Assist Window) is really good because with AAW at 0 it lowers your sense ONLY when you're ON the target.

And if you're failing to aim, just lower your sense or rise the AAW (not higher than 30 would be great I think).

Actually I'm needing precise aiming because of Soldier/Widow/Ana/Roadhog, but also need fast turn with Tracer, so I guess I'm going to put the sense I need to do a 180 easily and then adjust AAW to get precise aiming. With all characters I love to be able to do a 180 easily, because I hate dying because I have been killed from behind, so with all characters I need it (again it's due to consoles turn limits). Or try a curve which allow me to keep low sense and turn fast.

I tested today and came nearly to the same settings, just ohne difference: AAW = 0. Lowered my sens from 12.5 to 11, as it feels a bit faster with low AAW settings.

Aiming feels much more predictable with the new AAW setting!
Title: Re: Overwatch Aim Assist Window Size Setting.
Post by: Hellohihello on 10:04 AM - 05/26/17
I created an ads on my over watch profile for a right click activation for widow and ana to slow down the sensitivity.

But other characters seem to slow down now when I press right click.  For example, genjis alternate slows my sensitivity because it thinks I'm adsing.

How do you guys set up ur profiles for Ana and widow? I don't like having to open up xim on my phone to switch to another ow profile just for widow and Ana.


Thanks!
Title: Re: Overwatch Aim Assist Window Size Setting.
Post by: A Big Ol Bully on 11:02 AM - 05/26/17
I created an ads on my over watch profile for a right click activation for widow and ana to slow down the sensitivity.

But other characters seem to slow down now when I press right click.  For example, genjis alternate slows my sensitivity because it thinks I'm adsing.

How do you guys set up ur profiles for Ana and widow? I don't like having to open up xim on my phone to switch to another ow profile just for widow and Ana.


Thanks!

Set a little delay. Remember Widow isn't even powered up for like 300ms. I think even her ADS takes 100ms. Also I can't speak for all of us but I moved some of my ADS hand (for me the NAV left hand trigger) actions like Rheinhart's Shield and Mai's Ice Shot to my mouse's back button. You don't want any thing that takes longer than 300ms on that same button IMHO.

Move stuff around that's the fix.

No need for multiple profiles. I don't use them but IF a true Linear control scheme ever comes out with no speed limit then I'll probably use different sensitivities. I'd probably still just have 2 profiles though, one for distance hitscan and one for in your face heroes.
Hope that helps.
Title: Re: Overwatch Aim Assist Window Size Setting.
Post by: Hellohihello on 11:43 AM - 05/26/17
Makes sense thanks!

Is there a way to bind a key to a profile and switch on the fly without opening the app?
Title: Re: Overwatch Aim Assist Window Size Setting.
Post by: Djinouik on 08:45 PM - 05/26/17
You can assign keys for profiles to switch directly from keyboard
Title: Re: Overwatch Aim Assist Window Size Setting.
Post by: Supernatural X on 06:27 PM - 05/28/17
You can set keys you dont use to different profiles in the top left hand of your manager. I have different profiles set to F1, F2, F3 etc.