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Title: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: toysrme on 11:11 PM - 02/18/10
[email protected] Stats system
COD4 spawn logic
MW2 weapons logic

Apparantly, the recipe was too hard to follow and they set the blender too fast.
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: Shrimpanzee on 11:50 PM - 02/18/10
I still love it.
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: MindControlZombies on 12:31 AM - 02/19/10
there are millions of pad users on xbox an psn we are of a few thousand ximers
which makes mw2 are great arena i have cod 5 for pc cod 6 for xbox cod4,5,6 for ps3
. for me ps3 is best cos pc games are full of hackers xbox version is great game play but ps3 is better graphics, i dont have to pay psn, theres lots of local players more ps3 were i live then xbox.
infinity ward have made mistakes i still say cods 8v8 death match is pathetic
but team games are great fun :D
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: glenn37216 on 05:08 AM - 02/19/10
 Very well spoken Toys. We need a game developer to come out with a COD game that breaks this mold the series is stuck in. It's the same old "spawn quick ..rush to die scenario" over and over".  :-\
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: PhilAshio on 05:39 AM - 02/19/10
Failed? I guess you meant to title this topic, "Why I was disappointed with MW2"

Personally, I don't like how the maps seem specifically designed with camping in mind. I don't like the nuke boosting in FFA. I don't like how the game ALWAYS puts me on a team where everyone goes negative, but I guess I could get a team going to fix that. I don't like how it seems to pick host five times in a row who has every player on the server connected to him get three bars or less.

Pretty much all of that stuff could be fixed if they put bots in but I doubt Microsoft would be too thrilled about that. I still love the game and find it hard to go back or switch to any other shooter but it has some seriously unnecessary issues.
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: MindControlZombies on 07:40 AM - 02/19/10
really busts my balls when it launchs into a game with hardly any players,
but my bigest piss off is when it puts you in a game already in progress with
2 minutes or less to go, it always puts me on the losing side which is dam unfair
not only cos its a forced loss an stat killer but the fact it gives you stress an
puts you in a bad mood for the next game >:(
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: evm on 08:42 AM - 02/19/10
The spawn system is wacked, akimbo weapons were a stupid idea which give the game a corny feeling.  Then you have the lag which is beyond explanation and drives most players up a wall.  The lag/delay in this game is so huge.  I can't even begin to explain the lag system.  Sometimes I am running around with an RPD and people are dropping like fly's with one hit kills.
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: mist4fun on 09:20 AM - 02/19/10
really busts my balls when it launchs into a game with hardly any players,
but my bigest piss off is when it puts you in a game already in progress with
2 minutes or less to go, it always puts me on the losing side which is dam unfair
not only cos its a forced loss an stat killer but the fact it gives you stress an
puts you in a bad mood for the next game >:(


You have a small amount of time to quit the match without being penalized.
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: Don on 10:27 AM - 02/19/10
there are millions of pad users on xbox an psn we are of a few thousand ximers
which makes mw2 are great arena i have cod 5 for pc cod 6 for xbox cod4,5,6 for ps3
. for me ps3 is best cos pc games are full of hackers xbox version is great game play but ps3 is better graphics, i dont have to pay psn, theres lots of local players more ps3 were i live then xbox.
infinity ward have made mistakes i still say cods 8v8 death match is pathetic
but team games are great fun :D

Actually, MW2 graphics load much faster on the 360.  As I recall, toys once said that the PS3 takes ~8ms to load advanced textures off of the disc, while the 360 only takes 4ms.  If you install the game to the 360 HD, it only takes ~1ms. 
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: Chilly309 on 01:36 PM - 02/19/10
     Nobody likes lag in games. We all experience it and are probably going to with every title we play online. It will probably never be perfect. Therefore we should never expect it be. As far as Infinity Ward's games go, they still seem to me to be the best to play online. If you don't believe me then give Gears Of War 2 a shot for about a week. You will truly learn what lag is and probably have a newfound appreciation for MW2. I can usually work thru the little bit I run into in MW2,but if it's bad enough then at least the game will usually end. That's not always the case with a game like Gears. I've had games where right from the beginning I would teleport across the whole @#$% map like I was playing a really bad game of star trek or something. Beam me up Scotty! No beam me down Scotty! And your only reliable weapon is the chainsaw and well that's not even reliable. I won't even go into the host issues which piss off people the most in that game. I could go on but you guys get the point. Call of Duty online isn't bad. As for Gears, Horde mode is great and so is the campaign, but not for gaming against others.
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: Tonester on 02:20 PM - 02/19/10
As a hobbyist game-developer, here is what is wrong with MW2:

1)  Game mechanics which encourage camping.
  - Stopping power with no counter means even quicker deaths typically.
  - Quick deaths means 1st shot wins which means don't be the guy moving instead of watching a corner.
  - Killstreak rewards that basically trump every other game objective.

2)  Uncounterable game mechanics that ruin killstreaks for non-campers while not helping their team.
  - Akimbo shotguns
  - Commando pro

3)  Random elements which detract from the fairness/spirit of competitive play
  - Care packages

A guy running around with Akimbo shotguns will go negative every time.  However, there is no counter for someone spawning, running, turning a corner, and pulling both triggers without having to aim, think, etc.  These guys ruin legit killstreaks without really doing well themselves and there is no counter for it except to camp even more, use claymores, etc.

Some things they did correctly:
-  Equipment
-  Riot Shields
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: toysrme on 02:49 PM - 02/19/10

You have a small amount of time to quit the match without being penalized.
This was true in COD4.
This is untrue now. As soon as you connect to a server, disconnecting results in a loss.

I like akimbo weapons. They're fun and dont break anything. Akimbo 1887's simply needed a nerf (regular 1887 DID NOT - piss any whiney 13 year olds and the @#$% trash @#$% play balancers)
Akimbo 1887's rock socks. 3 kills before reloading, hyper fast reloading & lots of ammo LoL! but... next to nothing for range.

Commando Pro is fine to be in the game. Unfortuantely it has been proven that at certain points in the stabbing animation you are invulnerable. Making it iffy to kill someone that can bring out the stabbing animation.

Stopping power is fine. Noone would use anything but snipers & the FAMAS without stopping power.










The answer here is 2x smoke grenades.
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: playboyjoe on 03:24 PM - 02/19/10
[email protected] Stats system
COD4 spawn logic
MW2 weapons logic

Apparantly, the recipe was too hard to follow and they set the blender too fast.

I'll correct MW2 spawn logic + weapons logic , oh I forgot there is no spawn logic in mw2 :o
People spawn all across the maps at random places like sometimes you spawn underneath a care package or maybe a javelin rocket or my favourite the "predator missile" :o :o :o :o


     Nobody likes lag in games. We all experience it and are probably going to with every title we play online. It will probably never be perfect. Therefore we should never expect it be. As far as Infinity Ward's games go, they still seem to me to be the best to play online. If you don't believe me then give Gears Of War 2 a shot for about a week. You will truly learn what lag is and probably have a newfound appreciation for MW2. I can usually work thru the little bit I run into in MW2,but if it's bad enough then at least the game will usually end. That's not always the case with a game like Gears. I've had games where right from the beginning I would teleport across the whole @#$% map like I was playing a really bad game of star trek or something. Beam me up Scotty! No beam me down Scotty! And your only reliable weapon is the chainsaw and well that's not even reliable. I won't even go into the host issues which piss off people the most in that game. I could go on but you guys get the point. Call of Duty online isn't bad. As for Gears, Horde mode is great and so is the campaign, but not for gaming against others.

I hope your're talkin about gears 2 cuz gears 1 is hands down THE BEST online multiplayer game (some prefer halo but still better than other titles)available on xbox 360. Thats why people still play it after 3 years since it came out.
About gears2 I totally agree wit you . I like campaign, horde but I completely dispise multiplayer .They totally screwed it like IW did it wit cod series .
COD 2 was a solid and funny experience now we have mw2 which is frustrating and dissapointing.

Everyone rants and complaints about those games but still play it , why?
The reason why people(including me ::)) play mw2, gears 2 etc is because of addiction.
The developers know how to keep people playin their games -> the rank system
We hate it but still play it , cuz everyone likes to increase their rank , that's human nature but this aspect must not be the case.
Still we get over all bugs, glitches and lags and keep on playin
Games should be addictive(but not too addictive) because of fun.

Example:
Gears 1 doesn't have any rank system but the reason it is so successful is cuz it's fun to play . It addicts because of fun and great gameplay and not beacuse of any gained xp or rank , who gives a @#$% about anyones rank
CS , cod 2 are other good examples.
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: Shrimpanzee on 04:25 PM - 02/19/10
I hope your're talkin about gears 2 cuz gears 1 is hands down THE BEST online multiplayer game (some prefer halo but still better than other titles)available on xbox 360.

Yeah because you're opinion is fact.

No.
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: mist4fun on 04:44 PM - 02/19/10

You have a small amount of time to quit the match without being penalized.
This was true in COD4.
This is untrue now. As soon as you connect to a server, disconnecting results in a loss.

I didn't know that, I assumed they kept that feature. It actually made sense, so no wonder they got rid of it.
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: PhilAshio on 06:21 PM - 02/19/10
xbox version is great game play but ps3 is better graphics, i dont have to pay psn, theres lots of local players more ps3 were i live then xbox.

From what this (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-modern-warfare-2-face-off?page=2 (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-modern-warfare-2-face-off?page=2)) article says. The PS3 version has better shadow filtering but worse ground textures, less or no bloom, and the frame rate dips lower and more frequently than on the 360.
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: Don on 06:51 PM - 02/19/10

You have a small amount of time to quit the match without being penalized.
This was true in COD4.
This is untrue now. As soon as you connect to a server, disconnecting results in a loss.

I didn't know that, I assumed they kept that feature. It actually made sense, so no wonder they got rid of it.

If you switch to party chat half-way through a game, select "stay in party chat" at the prompt, and get booted, none of the stats from that game will count.  This includes counting it as a loss.
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: mist4fun on 07:04 PM - 02/19/10
Good tip.
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: Don on 07:15 PM - 02/19/10
Good tip.

yup, but i bet they patch that before they fix the commando immunity glitch
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: toysrme on 07:23 PM - 02/19/10
Phil it also lets it be known that the 360 can load high-res textures in a second or less with a HD install while the PS3 may take 8 seconds to load high res textures off the disk.

yack!
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: playboyjoe on 08:21 PM - 02/19/10
I hope your're talkin about gears 2 cuz gears 1 is hands down THE BEST online multiplayer game (some prefer halo but still better than other titles)available on xbox 360.

Yeah because you're opinion is fact.

No.

Well atleast I have one
I didn't say that my opinion is fact, but the success of this game is a fact.
So your comment is pointless
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: MindControlZombies on 10:20 AM - 02/20/10
look dudes im sorry ive run test side by side with 2 full hd 1080p 22inch tvs with my xbox 360mw2 super elite an ps3 an out the box as they are the ps3 looks better smoother an clearer
the xbox version looks less good. if your thinking im a ps3 fanboy then why do i own one of the rarest an most expsensive vauled xboxs, are you saying that if i load it onto the hdd it loads an looks better on the xbox ? coz if you play off the disk quick plug an play the ps3 looks better.
ive been building my own pcs for years ive seen gpus come an go my pc played cod5 at full hd an looked far better than ps3 , im not getting into the xbox vs ps3 talk, im not saying the blue ray on ps3 is a benifit , im saying ive got cod games for all 3 formats cod6 out the box looks the worst
on xbox 3 of my pals own both consoles we all said the same ps3 1080p an xbox 1080p cod6 ps3 is better looking ,remember farcry2 the xbox version was 1080p ps3 was 720p xbox version was miles better lets be honest not biast dudes
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: Don on 11:36 AM - 02/20/10
Zombies, don't doubt the cold logic of toys.  He is using facts to back up his statement, while you are just making comparisons based on your observations.  You could very well be right, but facts > comparisons/intuition
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: playboyjoe on 12:14 PM - 02/20/10
Nobody said that the game looks better if you install it on hdd, it just loads faster(in most cases, not all!!)
Textures pop up quicker than from disc
The unreal engine(gow 1, 2) is a good example for a comparison between disc and hdd.
It would be great if you could post some high quality pics side by side of your screens.
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: MindControlZombies on 01:01 PM - 02/20/10
i would love too but i only have 1 hd set here the other is at my girlfriends where i tested it
but if i say to her can i set up the two tvs an consoles an take pics she would get annoyed any day but on a sat night i got no chance haha dudes im not lying the xbox version stright from disk is darker an looks less graphical than the ps3 version you can see this from the start the training bit with the range an also the pit if like me you have both version go an try those parts you see the dif , i like both consoles my xbox super elite limted edition is cool , i have two ps3 fats 1 was a present the other i got for 99 from a pal who bought a slim an wanted rid of his fat i im getting a ps3 slim from my girlfriend in a few weeks she spoils me too much
she bought me the prestige an veteran packs with the ps3 fat for crimbo madness i know but im not complaining , i will mod 1 fat with a bigger hdd an sell it on an hack the other so i can run linux with full ps3 gpu support an other fun , ive got two broken white arcade xboxs coming my way for free
next week an with all the other stuff online an in life i have not enough hours in the day
so lazy at times maybe i shud just keep my gob shut in future haha
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: mist4fun on 03:20 PM - 02/20/10
I see many hd tv's in my line of work. Different tv's give you a different picture. I wouldn't be suprised if the ps3 was being played on the superior tv.

Also one tv could be calibrated better than the other.
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: MindControlZombies on 04:05 PM - 02/20/10
both tvs are diffrent one is better tested both on both with witnesses my friends have xbox too they said the same ps3 version is more pleasing on the eye. i 100% stand by with no agenda that
with a good pc the pc version is the best then its the ps3 then the xbox
i have no reason to lie my eyes are 2020a vision i can judge how a game looks better on a old radeon9600 like farcry1 compared with a rad9800gt etc its the same here the ps3 version looks sharper an clearer smoother an more pleasing to the eye borrow a copy if u dont want to buy both
check the rifle range an the dudes playing basket ball, look at the detail of the ps3 version then play the xbox one in the same places levels etc you will see what i mean, i love pc xbox an ps3 the same an as gandi said even in the minority of 1
the truth is still the truth 8)
do you have both xbox an ps3 versions to test it?
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: PhilAshio on 04:56 PM - 02/20/10
So wait, you're basing this on two different TVs that you didn't put side by side to make your comparison? The Digital Foundry link shows straight captures from the graphics card of both systems and they have tools to measure the framerate. You might personally like the way the PS3 version looks more but the evidence shows that the 360 has the edge here, especially from a performance perspective.
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: MindControlZombies on 11:21 AM - 02/21/10
yes i tested both like this xbox on tv1 3 witnesses played cod 6 round the pit etc
then i conected a ps3 that tv did the same areas an it looked so much better

so then i tried my gf tv an the same was the case an as for the side by side test
i used the xbox on the better tv an the ps3 looked better on the cheaper one

so fact is the xbox may have the power inside but the graphic content of the ps3 version
of the blu ray is clearer an smoother hence the fact i play more ps3 cod than xbox
an like i said far cry2 is @#$% on ps3 but better graphics on xbox ps3 version is only 720p
xbox is 1080p , cod6 is 1080p on both consoles but looks better on ps3

"GZR" "something inside it cant be denied it touches deep no matter what you say"
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: toysrme on 12:36 PM - 02/21/10
The PS3 texture resolution & detail is flat out lower
PS3 has almost no antiscopic filtering
PS3 frame rates are ALWAYS lower

How is this better? Its not.

COD4/5/6 is rendered @ 1024*600 on either console and is scaled to the resolution the console is set too.




Thinking your PS3's blue-ray has anything to do with the game. There is no game on either console yet that is NEAR being over an 8gb DL DVD's capacity size. PERIOD. Ontop of that, there are only rescently projected games that will require moving to 20gb DL DVD's, of which the 360 supports reading.
So telling people that game quality wise a PS3's blue-ray player could increase anything over the console's lifespan is nutty. Especially when the real world access time of it is far higher than the regular DVD player in the 360 - which leads to a DECREASE in quality.

Furthermore, the Xbox 360 game itself is LARGER than the PS3's copy of the game while BOTH are much smaller than the PC version. Go compair your torrent sizes for 360 & PS3.


Im sorry, but no. PS3 doesn't look better as a whole, nor does it play better. :\
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: Tonester on 02:20 PM - 02/21/10
So who wants to buy my copy of MW2?  Everything in perfect condition - no smudges or scratches :)  I'm going to use the money to get COD4 and COD5 again.
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: toysrme on 03:55 PM - 02/21/10
cod4 is only semi enjoyable now. i never see more than 10-12k people playing at any give time.

its a faster game(movement speed is higher) which is great.
its frustrating as every game boils down to us (awesome top tier players) + a couple of bad (but now average) players VS 100% newbies = no-fun-ultra win.
OR
you + newbs VS players the newbs cant handle = you either win out HUGE being the only threat to kill anything, or more often than not get spawn trapped. I will say, the other night I tried playing COD4 (still laggy as seemingly always) with no good loadout/perks. Never had more 50-60 kill games in TDM in a row.
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: Shrimpanzee on 05:59 PM - 02/21/10
So who wants to buy my copy of MW2?  Everything in perfect condition - no smudges or scratches :)  I'm going to use the money to get COD4 and COD5 again.

You confuse me.
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: Boddiebagger on 06:13 AM - 02/23/10
As a hobbyist game-developer, here is what is wrong with MW2:

1)  Game mechanics which encourage camping.
  - Stopping power with no counter means even quicker deaths typically.
  - Quick deaths means 1st shot wins which means don't be the guy moving instead of watching a corner.
  - Killstreak rewards that basically trump every other game objective.

2)  Uncounterable game mechanics that ruin killstreaks for non-campers while not helping their team.
  - Akimbo shotguns
  - Commando pro

3)  Random elements which detract from the fairness/spirit of competitive play
  - Care packages

A guy running around with Akimbo shotguns will go negative every time.  However, there is no counter for someone spawning, running, turning a corner, and pulling both triggers without having to aim, think, etc.  These guys ruin legit killstreaks without really doing well themselves and there is no counter for it except to camp even more, use claymores, etc.

Some things they did correctly:
-  Equipment
-  Riot Shields

Really? What engine? Since there is no mod support for the COD games i moved on to UDK. To me, this is so much easier for my skill level.
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: Tonester on 10:27 AM - 02/23/10
I've been doing mod/dev stuff in Unreal Engine off/on for a few years now.  I haven't checked out UDK yet but I've heard good things.
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: Boddiebagger on 10:38 AM - 02/23/10
 Being that IW put our hobbies to a rest with their games, I believe some upcoming games will try to reach out and grab those hobbyist guys like you and me for the PC. The new Medal of Honor that is coming out is set in Modern Combat, is being made with the Unreal Engine 3 and Frostbite engine. MOH may want to pick up those people that IW left behind. Also, 2k has a spec op game coming out made with the Unreal Engine. SO here's to hoping they allow some mods.
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: MindControlZombies on 10:58 AM - 02/23/10
The PS3 texture resolution & detail is flat out lower
PS3 has almost no antiscopic filtering
PS3 frame rates are ALWAYS lower

How is this better? Its not.

COD4/5/6 is rendered @ 1024*600 on either console and is scaled to the resolution the console is set too.

glad you have convinced your self of that false truth are you talking about online coz the graphics are lower online then single person game on both consoles ive not played mw2 xbox online
an i wont till i get my xim3 but the graphics in single player mode are better looking on ps3 100%
YOU ARE DEFLECTING POSTING NUMBERS AN FIGURES GO GET THE GAME AN CONSOLES DO THE TEST AN THEN MOAN
PROVE ME WRONG WITH FACTS NOT NUMBERS AN WHAT YOU WANT IT TO BE on paper it may be this an that but play them my xbox is at optimal output an so is the ps3 in many games xbox version looks better
but mw2 single player ps3 looks better my friend rob has it on xbox an he plays it on his mates ps3 too after doing this for a number of months he said he cant deny it any longer the ps3 version looks clearer an more visualy stunning an he is so convinced its better he is selling his xbox an games to buy a ps3 slim with mw2

Thinking your PS3's blue-ray has anything to do with the game. There is no game on either console yet that is NEAR being over an 8gb DL DVD's capacity size. PERIOD. Ontop of that, there are only rescently projected games that will require moving to 20gb DL DVD's, of which the 360 supports reading.
So telling people that game quality wise a PS3's blue-ray player could increase anything over the console's lifespan is nutty. Especially when the real world access time of it is far higher than the regular DVD player in the 360 - which leads to a DECREASE in quality.

Furthermore, the Xbox 360 game itself is LARGER than the PS3's copy of the game while BOTH are much smaller than the PC version. Go compair your torrent sizes for 360 & PS3.


Im sorry, but no PS3 does look better as a whole, nor does it play better . it just looks alot better
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: Tonester on 12:27 PM - 02/23/10
Being that IW put our hobbies to a rest with their games, I believe some upcoming games will try to reach out and grab those hobbyist guys like you and me for the PC. The new Medal of Honor that is coming out is set in Modern Combat, is being made with the Unreal Engine 3 and Frostbite engine. MOH may want to pick up those people that IW left behind. Also, 2k has a spec op game coming out made with the Unreal Engine. SO here's to hoping they allow some mods.

The game I'm looking forward to is Brink.
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: mist4fun on 01:23 PM - 02/23/10
Army men comes out in the first week of march. It's an arcade game.
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: MindControlZombies on 09:38 AM - 02/25/10
again like  i said ive got both versions the xbox 1 player was so much lamer i only play it on ps3
when i get my xim3 i will play it online too but 1 player i cant play on the xbox looks better on ps3
ive got both copies an can see for myself what looks best on my tv an thats ps3 version sorry but true
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: FILOSK8 on 10:44 AM - 02/25/10
I saw this comparison
http://www.modernwarfare247.com/news/x360-vs-ps3
and Xbox 360 seems a little better.
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: playboyjoe on 10:55 AM - 02/25/10
WOW last pic tells it all
PS3 poor ground texture(the dead guy in last pic), poor contrast
xbox 360 sharper ground texture, more colors, deeper contrast
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: MindControlZombies on 12:50 PM - 02/25/10
it does not state which is which an we could all win a photo contest but playing looks better on ps3
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: bdm214 on 12:58 PM - 02/25/10
I have both, and the ps3 lets you see those pesky campers that I never see on the 360.  But the 360 has a better community i think, the 360 took the chunk of americans.
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: ideez on 01:14 PM - 02/25/10
Quote
The game I'm looking forward to is Brink.

i was shocked when i read this and thought i was the only one.

from what they done already with brink (and their past games they created??? enemy territory, elder scrolls, enemy territory quake wars were all the games i enjoyed multiplayer the most exc elder scrolls)

I'm looking more towards the idea of teamwork based, that pretty much today doesn't fully exist in games.  you need the engineer to plant, covert to destroy command post, medic to heal, field ops for ammo and air support, soldier for whatever else.

http://www.brinkthegame.com/ 
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: PhilAshio on 07:11 PM - 02/25/10
WOW last pic tells it all
PS3 poor ground texture(the dead guy in last pic), poor contrast
xbox 360 sharper ground texture, more colors, deeper contrast

Wow, just saw it and it looks a lot sharper on the 360. The puddle by the ramp looks like it has depths, you could actually see the pockets on the dead guy, and the bumps on the back of the UMP stand out more.
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: mist4fun on 08:52 PM - 02/25/10
it does not state which is which an we could all win a photo contest but playing looks better on ps3

It does actually, the first image is the 360 and when you roll over the image the new image is the ps3. The 360 images show more texture detail, the ps3 photos show less shadow detail and bland textures.

I agree with playboyjoe, the last image is the best comparison.
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: Tonester on 09:51 PM - 02/25/10
Yea - it looks pretty cut and dry to me :)
Title: Re: I know why MW2 failed
Post by: MindControlZombies on 06:45 AM - 03/02/10
having now tested on other tvs i have to say the tv an settings make a hell of a diffrence
an i happy to say yes the xbox version is better overall an the ps3 has better shadowing
but xbox version looks better im totally blown away how diffrent the story is presented on xbox
to ps3 think the xbox version is more usa aimed an ps3 more euro an worldwide aimed

you have to play the opening levels of both versions to see what i mean
i know 1 thing i cant wait for xim3 so i can play how i want too an take it with me :D