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Title: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: zowie player on 12:46 PM - 11/22/15
XIM4  20151120
User Experience Changes:

- On startup, your XIM4 will now notify you when initialization is complete by displaying four rapid green blinks.
- Pressing the PS button on your Dualshock 4 is no longer required at startup (your controller will now connect automatically).
- Your XIM4 will now inform you with flashing quick purple lights if it's detecting conditions that may be causing performance degradation. Let us know if you see this light.

Changes:

NEW: XIM4 Smart Translators V2 aiming fidelity upgrade
NEW: XIM4 Manager support for iOS 5.1.1 devices (iPhone 4s and iPad 3rd-gen and above)
NEW: PlayStation 4 Touchpad Support
NEW: Use next-gen controllers cross next-gen console (X1 ->PS4) (PS4 -> X1)
NEW: Use next-gen controllers (X1, PS4) on last-gen consoles (X360, PS3)
NEW: Storage increased to 24 Configs (was 16)
NEW: Simulated ADS Toggle (with customizable "Deactivation" keys)
NEW: Progressive Delay blended Hip to ADS transition
NEW: Steady Aim feature that optimizes Auto Aim (best with CoD ADS)
NEW: Turn Assist for better control of vehicles and turrets
NEW: PlayStation 4 controller automatic turn on at startup
NEW: Config load via hotkeys while Manager is connected
NEW: “System ready” indication light (4 rapid green blinks)
NEW: Warning light notification (yellow-pulses) if peripheral communication is lost
NEW: Support for Logitech 3D Extreme Pro Joystick

FIX: Atheros Bluetooth chipset compatibility
FIX: Xbox One audio quality issues
FIX: Better support for hubs/switches
FIX: Xbox One controller w/integrated audio jack compatibility
FIX: Xbox One Elite controller compatibility (including cross console)
FIX: XIM4 remains on when console is turned off
FIX: Commander input timing improvements
FIX: Roccat Tyon and Iksu support
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: zowie player on 12:49 PM - 11/22/15
I have upgraded from the Progressive Delay firmware and have noticed two things that did not trigger:
- On startup, your XIM4 will now notify you when initialization is complete by displaying four rapid green blinks.
- Pressing the PS button on your Dualshock 4 is no longer required at startup (your controller will now connect automatically)
Will factory reset my xim4.
Edit1: After factory reset the above are working fine.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: andy012345 on 02:39 PM - 11/22/15
I've played a few games and the ADS steady aim is really good and noticeable.

Few issues I've had on PS4:

If the controller is disconnected the XIM has to be restarted for it to work again.

In COD I use the typical PC buttons, so I have Melee on LCTRL and R3 on E, playing tactical (so LCTRL is crouch, E is melee and navigation for the menus as it's easier for me that way).
My keyboard is a Razer Blackwidow on a USB switch, and it works fine if the switch is to the XIM when the XIM powers up. If for any reason I go to another device and them come back to the XIM using the switch, LCTRL is stuck pressed down (XIM Manager shows it being pressed all the time) and I can't crouch, go prone, or slide in COD until the XIM is powered off and back on.

Thanks
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 03:13 PM - 11/22/15
Thanks for the feedback.

We don't support disconnecting the controller and reconnecting without resetting your XIM4.

Do you have "Enable USB device hot swapping" turned on?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Call_Me_Ozne on 03:50 PM - 11/22/15
Just upgraded from the Progressive Delay alpha, I heard this one is using 224ms as default must I input that in the delay time or?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: crazydave33 on 03:54 PM - 11/22/15
Not sure if this is a 20151120 Firmware issue or not.... but the Xim 4 is not working with my Corsair STRAFE Cherry MX Red keyboard. Is this a known issue that the keyboard is not supported or is this a firmware issue?

If the keyboard is not supported, any clue when it might be supported? Thank you for the help.

Just FYI, the keyboard is lit up when connected to Xim 4 and the Xim manager on my Android tablet recognizes that the keyboard is plugged in. There is just no response when I press any key.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 04:00 PM - 11/22/15
Did it work before? If so, what firmware version?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: crazydave33 on 04:07 PM - 11/22/15
Well see here's the problem.... I got this keyboard a little while back but haven't used my Xim 4 in a while. Today I went ahead and upgraded to the brand new RC firmware (20151120). I didn't test the Xim 4 with the old firmware. Before I upgraded I was using the old 20141114 ST1 firmware. Last time I used my Xim 4 I was using a Razer Blackwidow and it worked fine. But haven't used my Xim 4 since then and now I only have the Cosair STRAFE.

Should I downgrade the firmware to 20141114 and retest everything?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Shae on 04:57 PM - 11/22/15
Well see here's the problem.... I got this keyboard a little while back but haven't used my Xim 4 in a while. Today I went ahead and upgraded to the brand new RC firmware (20151120). I didn't test the Xim 4 with the old firmware. Before I upgraded I was using the old 20141114 ST1 firmware. Last time I used my Xim 4 I was using a Razer Blackwidow and it worked fine. But haven't used my Xim 4 since then and now I only have the Cosair STRAFE.

Should I downgrade the firmware to 20141114 and retest everything?

According to this http://xim4.com/community/index.php?topic=42363.0 (http://xim4.com/community/index.php?topic=42363.0) the Corsair STRAFE won't work with the Xim4 unless it's connected through your PC using the Commander software.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: crazydave33 on 06:11 PM - 11/22/15
Well see here's the problem.... I got this keyboard a little while back but haven't used my Xim 4 in a while. Today I went ahead and upgraded to the brand new RC firmware (20151120). I didn't test the Xim 4 with the old firmware. Before I upgraded I was using the old 20141114 ST1 firmware. Last time I used my Xim 4 I was using a Razer Blackwidow and it worked fine. But haven't used my Xim 4 since then and now I only have the Cosair STRAFE.

Should I downgrade the firmware to 20141114 and retest everything?

According to this http://xim4.com/community/index.php?topic=42363.0 (http://xim4.com/community/index.php?topic=42363.0) the Corsair STRAFE won't work with the Xim4 unless it's connected through your PC using the Commander software.



Ah I see. Ok thank you very much for that info. That makes more sense now.

Do you have any clue why it only work through the PC Commander software? I don't think this will ever work with the Xim 4 Android software due to 'power requirements' seems to be some electronic power issue?

Anyways thanks for the help.

Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Prefire on 07:02 PM - 11/22/15
Just installed the latest firmware. Looking around in my XIM settings, I do not see anything that says progressive delay, which is one of the features added to the latest firmware.

Is it automatic?

I created another BO3 config and it had a default ads delay of 224 instead of it being blank.

Is there a progressive delay tutorial? Thanks and sorry for the noob questions lol
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Prefire on 07:20 PM - 11/22/15
Just read progressive delay is the ads delay. So do I keep it at default? 224?

I use the quick ads attachments on all guns btw
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: geekdll on 07:39 PM - 11/22/15
Just read progressive delay is the ads delay. So do I keep it at default? 224?

I use the quick ads attachments on all guns btw

Try 220 seems to work well for me with quickdraw
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: JONNYROCKET on 08:35 PM - 11/22/15
I really hate to be that guy. But my reaction time feels slower then the last firmware. I was using progressive delay set at 120 for my AR with quick draw. I'm using the same setting and feels slow. Any recommendations?

Hip : 16.8
ADS: 7.00
delay: 120

Steady aim both

G500
12000
1000
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Bountykilla83 on 08:37 PM - 11/22/15
OK I have test the firmware with and without Titan One.  Here is my results

WIthout titan one No purple lights

With Titan One purple lights but not as bad as before.

Here is titan one settings

Speed Up Settings:

 - Inframe Out
 
Check if there is more data to send to Console within current USB frame. This setting helps improve performance and reduce input lag.
 
- Inframe In
 
Check if there is more data to receive from Controller within current USB frame. This setting helps improve performance and reduce input lag.
 
- 1ms Response
 
A response time of one millisecond is the fastest response time possible for USB devices. Disabling this option will make the device run at the original speed of the Console currently in use.

Now the infamous one is the 1ms Response which cause the purple light to pulse like crazy.

I disable all 3 settings, even though the purple light still happen its doesn't appear often like before.   
Title: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Prefire on 08:42 PM - 11/22/15
Regarding cross controller. The triggers don't seem to be touch sensitive. It just fully presses no matter how light you press it. This sucks for racing games :(

I'll try again in a little while to see if I was doing something wrong.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 08:47 PM - 11/22/15
Regarding cross controller. The triggers don't seem to be touch sensitive. It just fully presses no matter how light you press it. This sucks for racing games :(

You are right, that is the case. This is something we will need to fix. We will add it to the list -- thanks for reporting it.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 08:50 PM - 11/22/15
If you are seeing purple lights with T1/CM then there is something wrong with the USB host timing of those devices. Purple lights now will only report real user-affecting performance issues. I can't get my CM to work with my XIM4 so I have never been able to look into it.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: The Pfhor on 09:33 PM - 11/22/15
Any tried to play Killzone for PS4 yet and see if it works now or not?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Bountykilla83 on 09:47 PM - 11/22/15
If you are seeing purple lights with T1/CM then there is something wrong with the USB host timing of those devices. Purple lights now will only report real user-affecting performance issues. I can't get my CM to work with my XIM4 so I have never been able to look into it.

Owner of T1 is looking into it
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 09:52 PM - 11/22/15
I can talk to J2Kbr about it. I mentioned to him a few months ago that we'd have big firmware changes coming (which are out now) and that this sort of thing was a possibility.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Prefire on 10:03 PM - 11/22/15

Regarding cross controller. The triggers don't seem to be touch sensitive. It just fully presses no matter how light you press it. This sucks for racing games :(

You are right, that is the case. This is something we will need to fix. We will add it to the list -- thanks for reporting it.
oh ok good to know. No problem and thanks
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Amuro on 10:51 PM - 11/22/15
CM+ do not cause purple flashing any more but controller cuts out and reconnects every 10 minutes or so, weird.

Update
Forgot to disable controller vibration on my other PSN account LOL
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Prefire on 11:17 PM - 11/22/15
First time trying progressive delay, and idk if it's because of that but I just had 10 games in a row of tdm with a Kd over 9. Went 30-1 and 26-2 my last two.

Maybe it's a coincidence. I'll keep playing but so far so good
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Brutalimp on 02:25 AM - 11/23/15
OK I have test the firmware with and without Titan One.  Here is my results

WIthout titan one No purple lights

With Titan One purple lights but not as bad as before.

Here is titan one settings

Speed Up Settings:

 - Inframe Out
 
Check if there is more data to send to Console within current USB frame. This setting helps improve performance and reduce input lag.
 
- Inframe In
 
Check if there is more data to receive from Controller within current USB frame. This setting helps improve performance and reduce input lag.
 
- 1ms Response
 
A response time of one millisecond is the fastest response time possible for USB devices. Disabling this option will make the device run at the original speed of the Console currently in use.

Now the infamous one is the 1ms Response which cause the purple light to pulse like crazy.

I disable all 3 settings, even though the purple light still happen its doesn't appear often like before.   

Does the device freeze or stop working when you get the purple lights? I am scared to upgrade if my T1 won't work anymore.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Amuro on 02:39 AM - 11/23/15
OK I have test the firmware with and without Titan One.  Here is my results

WIthout titan one No purple lights

With Titan One purple lights but not as bad as before.

Here is titan one settings

Speed Up Settings:

 - Inframe Out
 
Check if there is more data to send to Console within current USB frame. This setting helps improve performance and reduce input lag.
 
- Inframe In
 
Check if there is more data to receive from Controller within current USB frame. This setting helps improve performance and reduce input lag.
 
- 1ms Response
 
A response time of one millisecond is the fastest response time possible for USB devices. Disabling this option will make the device run at the original speed of the Console currently in use.

Now the infamous one is the 1ms Response which cause the purple light to pulse like crazy.

I disable all 3 settings, even though the purple light still happen its doesn't appear often like before.   

Does the device freeze or stop working when you get the purple lights? I am scared to upgrade if my T1 won't work anymore.
The devices functions as if nothing happens.  You just have to put up with the occasional flashing.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: 4luk on 05:10 AM - 11/23/15
Working great so far
Love the addition of not pressing ps button on turn on xim4
Just wondering if there would be a fix in the future to have the headphones work through the 3.5mm jack on the dualshock 4 controller while connected to the xim4?
Thanks again for all the work
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: djay on 08:12 AM - 11/23/15
Scan type: Auto-Protect Scan
Event: Risk Found!
Security risk detected: Suspicious.Cloud.5.A
File: C:\Users\Downloads\XIM4Flash-20151120.exe
Location: C:\Users\Downloads
Action taken: Pending Side Effects Analysis : Access denied
Date found: Monday, November 23, 2015  9:11:08 PM

I can't access the file it keep telling me it's infected with Suspicious.Cloud.5.A from Symantec End Point Protection
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: djay on 08:19 AM - 11/23/15
already report to symantec as false positive,
in mean time. do you have a work arround for this ?
I don't have any other PC.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: patchm00 on 09:59 AM - 11/23/15
Just to confirm for my own sanity...if we are coming from RC 08..15 we do NOT need to reset factory defaults (just upgrade) AND this is NOT a breaking update from that firmware?

thanks much
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: flst81 on 10:13 AM - 11/23/15
all your settings are safe. I had no issues upgrading to new firmware and manager. That being said, you should always keep your settings saved somewhere in case of emergency situations which can pop up and really ruin your day.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Xorag2190 on 10:35 AM - 11/23/15
New user here, was playing all weekend with halo 5 1.3 ST and the august FW. I did an updated to this FW + factory reset and the mouse tracking feels incredible based on my limited testing. kudos to all!
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 11:46 AM - 11/23/15
Thanks for the feedback and welcome to the community -- we are spending a lot of time trying to work with what was done to Halo 5s aiming system. I'm glad to hear that we are moving in the right direction. :)
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: 1llest on 11:49 AM - 11/23/15
Since this FW has progressive delay, what value should i put on the ADS delay?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: 1llest on 11:51 AM - 11/23/15
Working great so far
Love the addition of not pressing ps button on turn on xim4
Just wondering if there would be a fix in the future to have the headphones work through the 3.5mm jack on the dualshock 4 controller while connected to the xim4?
Thanks again for all the work

Would also like this feature added. Any word on this Obsiv?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: wanne on 12:08 PM - 11/23/15
This firmware and the manager (for pc and android phone) work without any problems on ps4. Also the pink flashing light is gone when ps4 shuts down or enters rest mode. Xim shuts down as expected. Good work obsiv!
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 12:10 PM - 11/23/15
Since this FW has progressive delay, what value should i put on the ADS delay?

If you create a new Config now for CoD you'll get a Delay value automatically set to 224.

Working great so far
Love the addition of not pressing ps button on turn on xim4
Just wondering if there would be a fix in the future to have the headphones work through the 3.5mm jack on the dualshock 4 controller while connected to the xim4?
Thanks again for all the work

Would also like this feature added. Any word on this Obsiv?

This is something we are looking in to but have no solution so far given the limitations currently in place for DS4 running in wired mode.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Bully on 12:32 PM - 11/23/15
Everything is working well and I have not encountered any issues.

Great work Obs and all the team.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Sgt8Bit on 01:41 PM - 11/23/15
Just to confirm for my own sanity...if we are coming from RC 08..15 we do NOT need to reset factory defaults (just upgrade) AND this is NOT a breaking update from that firmware?

thanks much

Correct....just choose upgrade, not factory reset.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: kraut on 03:54 PM - 11/23/15
does this firmware/manager working with commander? (20141219-Alpha)
using 20150606 atm

Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Xorag2190 on 09:26 PM - 11/23/15
one thing I have noticed, less on this rc but also on the August release is that occasionally one of the wasd keys sticks briefly. so in halo 5 for example I'll need to release and tap s to stop backpedaling.

using a Razer blackwidow ultimate and naga hex
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Prefire on 11:55 PM - 11/23/15
Is there any way to map the Share button from the ps4 to a key? Pain in the butt having to reach over to the XIM to take a screenshot lol
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: BinSAMA on 12:47 AM - 11/24/15
Just discovered to new release *thumbs up* but can't give it a try until i get home from work.

Got a question here, hope it's not silly...

I normally leave everything connected when i turn of my ps4, and when i want to play again what i do is turn on my console >> unplug everything connected to XIM4 >> connect XIM4 to my console for initialization >> turn off my DS controller >> connect my mouse/keyboard/DS controller to XIM4 >> pressing the ps button to get everything working...

With the newest firmware and manager do i still have to go through what i normally do? or could i leave everything as it is when finishing playing and when i want to play again just simply press the ps button on the DS controller?

Thanks for answering.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: bensyy on 01:30 AM - 11/24/15
not compatible with Roccat Nyth :-(
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: judicator on 02:35 AM - 11/24/15
Thank you for getting the NAV wireless and IOS app working together! It's been a few month wait since I got my XIM, but finally everything is working together and such a convenience to use!!!

I was doing decent with the original setups, but tonight I did that much better being able to adjust things on the fly. As well as flip between game profiles without going back to the PC.

Thanks again.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: djay on 03:21 AM - 11/24/15
symantec already taken the mark off the record,
I will try this tonight.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: DomA on 04:27 AM - 11/24/15
Just discovered to new release *thumbs up* but can't give it a try until i get home from work.

Got a question here, hope it's not silly...

I normally leave everything connected when i turn of my ps4, and when i want to play again what i do is turn on my console >> unplug everything connected to XIM4 >> connect XIM4 to my console for initialization >> turn off my DS controller >> connect my mouse/keyboard/DS controller to XIM4 >> pressing the ps button to get everything working...

With the newest firmware and manager do i still have to go through what i normally do? or could i leave everything as it is when finishing playing and when i want to play again just simply press the ps button on the DS controller?

Thanks for answering.

You do all that? wow! Just leave it all connected and power on the console from the front.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: killasquad on 04:30 AM - 11/24/15
this RC is buttery smooth.thats all im gonna say. try it yourself. Its lil slower but no problem. I added 3 sens for hip and 1.5 ads. now  turns as fast as my old config
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: ColdMan on 04:36 AM - 11/24/15
ObsIV,

Is there any other change in this firmware compared to the alpha progressive delay fw?  I feel it smoother and like more responsiveness than before

Thanks and great work
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 10:36 AM - 11/24/15
ObsIV,

Is there any other change in this firmware compared to the alpha progressive delay fw?  I feel it smoother and like more responsiveness than before

Thanks and great work

Yes, this version of the firmware is a complete rewrite of the lower level USB com which is even more tight timing-wise than before. The prior firmware with progressive delay wasn't on that.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: zowie player on 10:40 AM - 11/24/15
I knew that tiny difference wasn't a placebo. quite noticeable when you are using the keyboard on ps4s OS menus.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: sphinx on 10:46 AM - 11/24/15
After updating it now feels like I'm aiming underwater in Halo 5 (1.3 ST), then upping the sens to get the turn speed back to where it was before makes aiming feel less precise than it was in the last firmware :/ G502 12k 1k.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: mist4fun on 10:50 AM - 11/24/15
Which halo ST were you using before and were you using advanced settings like a curve?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: sphinx on 11:21 AM - 11/24/15
Default 1.3 Halo 5 ST, no curve and no steady aim at 10.5 sens. 

I've spent the morning on an alt account in ffa trying different sensitivities, with and without steady aim, gunnits curve, boosts, and nothing feels right. In pistol battles at high level play people always jump and thrust to make you miss your last headshot and it's become much much harder to do the quick precision aiming to hit that last shot which gets me killed.

Maybe the update is an improvement to other games but unless I'm missing something it isn't going to work well at all for Halo 5. I'm guessing going back to 816 would reformat the XiM profiles?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: mist4fun on 11:25 AM - 11/24/15
Yes, factory restoring to 816 will wipe your device. It would be interesting to see if you have the same problems with .3 after going back to 816.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: hold on johnson on 12:22 PM - 11/24/15
I have been testing in destiny patrol so far i'm really impressed with the ads it's definitely more responsive and smooth as hell. If you try 140 ads delay you might notice a smoother  transition between hip and ads sensitivity.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Web-head on 12:25 PM - 11/24/15
I have been testing in destiny patrol so far i'm really impressed with the ads it's definitely more responsive and smooth as hell. If you try 140 ads delay you might notice a smoother  transition between hip and ads sensitivity.

If you are using a delay in Destiny, you shouldn't be.  There is no ADS delay in that game.  Only CoD.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: hold on johnson on 01:00 PM - 11/24/15
I have been testing in destiny patrol so far i'm really impressed with the ads it's definitely more responsive and smooth as hell. If you try 140 ads delay you might notice a smoother  transition between hip and ads sensitivity.

If you are using a delay in Destiny, you shouldn't be.  There is no ADS delay in that game.  Only CoD.

I didn't ads delay was intened for cod correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: PhiZaRoaH on 01:08 PM - 11/24/15
Moved my post to support.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Shaymon on 02:13 PM - 11/24/15
My Xim is constantly disconnecting now as I play. I had the issue before, but now it is worse. I would say every third or fourth game I have to unplug the Xim and reconnect it. Vibration is off. Also, did the Xim always stay on when the PS4 was in rest mode? I swear it would turn off. Now I have an issue where my controller will not turn my PS4 on from rest mode unless I unplug the xim and plug it back in. Not a huge issue as I can hit the power button on the PS4 but still an issue.

Also worth noting that the IOS Manager has so many more issues than the android. Many times it will not connect properly. My friend has the same issue. Is this a know issue? This has been with past firmware- not just this one.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: ColdMan on 02:17 PM - 11/24/15
ObsIV,

Is there any other change in this firmware compared to the alpha progressive delay fw?  I feel it smoother and like more responsiveness than before

Thanks and great work

Yes, this version of the firmware is a complete rewrite of the lower level USB com which is even more tight timing-wise than before. The prior firmware with progressive delay wasn't on that.

ObsIV always improving things.  Thank you.

Is this level you are talking the best can be achieved? 
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Prefire on 03:48 PM - 11/24/15
Is there any way to bind the share button in ps4 to a key?

Hate reaching for my ds4 to take screenshots
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 04:12 PM - 11/24/15
Is there any way to bind the share button in ps4 to a key?

Not currently, sorry.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: deathdru on 08:05 PM - 11/24/15
Logitech Extreme 3D Pro works great  :) :) would like to see some way disabling the twist option the joystick in the future......   great work 
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: paulrules on 08:08 PM - 11/24/15
Is progressive delay enabled automatically? Or do I have to use a checkbox to use it.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: mist4fun on 08:11 PM - 11/24/15
It's enabled automatically in CoD configs.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: tsdbhg on 08:19 PM - 11/24/15
So far the firmware works great. The only issue I run into is sometimes when the PS4 is put into rest mode. If I leave the power on on the USB, the xim will power down, then boot up and stay on. I am forced to unplug it.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 09:21 PM - 11/24/15
This is expected (rest mode). Your PS4 is turning the ports back on to charge peripherals. You'll need to unplug your XIM4.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: tsdbhg on 11:54 PM - 11/24/15
This is expected (rest mode). Your PS4 is turning the ports back on to charge peripherals. You'll need to unplug your XIM4.

Is there a plan to fix this? I mean is there a way you can code the xim to detect if the console is on or in rest mode?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 12:14 AM - 11/25/15
This is expected (rest mode). Your PS4 is turning the ports back on to charge peripherals. You'll need to unplug your XIM4.

Is there a plan to fix this? I mean is there a way you can code the xim to detect if the console is on or in rest mode?

Not likely since the PS4 in rest mode actually talks to USB peripherals plugged into it as if the PS4 is awake. It may be doing this to support charging devices like the Move Nav given that the Nav won't charge unless the console is talking to it. But, we will keep looking at it to see what we can do.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Amuro on 03:30 AM - 11/25/15
There's an option under Power Saving or  whatever it's called where you can set the PS4 to not providing power to USB ports while in Rest Mode.  However, this option seems to be not working if the PS4 is downloading something with recent firmware updates or it may be an issue with the 12000 series of PS4's.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: The Pfhor on 07:35 AM - 11/25/15
OK I have test the firmware with and without Titan One.  Here is my results

WIthout titan one No purple lights

With Titan One purple lights but not as bad as before.

Here is titan one settings

Speed Up Settings:

 - Inframe Out
 
Check if there is more data to send to Console within current USB frame. This setting helps improve performance and reduce input lag.
 
- Inframe In
 
Check if there is more data to receive from Controller within current USB frame. This setting helps improve performance and reduce input lag.
 
- 1ms Response
 
A response time of one millisecond is the fastest response time possible for USB devices. Disabling this option will make the device run at the original speed of the Console currently in use.

Now the infamous one is the 1ms Response which cause the purple light to pulse like crazy.

I disable all 3 settings, even though the purple light still happen its doesn't appear often like before.   

So, why are you using your XIM4 with the Titan One? What do you hope to gain here?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 11:28 AM - 11/25/15
ObsIV,

Is there any other change in this firmware compared to the alpha progressive delay fw?  I feel it smoother and like more responsiveness than before

Thanks and great work

Yes, this version of the firmware is a complete rewrite of the lower level USB com which is even more tight timing-wise than before. The prior firmware with progressive delay wasn't on that.

Two questions, what exactly do you mean by rewrite of the lower level USB com? Does this have anything to do with polling? Or are we still at 8ms?

Has STv2 been improved on further than the STv2 of previous builds?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: hold on johnson on 11:33 AM - 11/25/15
I actually downgraded my firmware, it seems to happen when using the latest firmware smart v2 translator in destiny. Quite often the reticle jumps to the side of the head while in ads, I haven't tested if hip behaves similarly . This can be very frustrating if you like and prefer sniping most of the time. The smart v2 feels smooth and responsive, but I'll stick the old firmware. Can I hear your thoughts obsiv on this matter?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 11:57 AM - 11/25/15
I haven't heard of issues like this. Did you get the same behavior with Steady Aim on?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 12:05 PM - 11/25/15
+1 Obs for the ignore.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 12:44 PM - 11/25/15
+1 Obs for the ignore.

:)

Wow, we do have some very demanding people in the community that absolutely must be heard.

Yes we are at 8ms in 20151120. No, we aren't working on making it lower right now as we have higher priority things going on.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Web-head on 12:45 PM - 11/25/15
Tested Progressive Delay finally last night.  Used 224ms and tried it with sniper, SMG, AR, and Pistol.  Seemed to work very well across the board.  Only tested in bot mode but played with it for around an hour.  All seemed surprisingly well.  Was nice to be able to set my Hip and ADS independently again.  Missed that.

The very weird thing is that when I switched to test it against my preferred method of using ADS on both Hip and ADS, it seemed like my shots were more on with Progressive, which doesn't make any sense to me.  Could be that I just had some bad aiming instances when I switched and it doesn't mean anything.  Could mean that since I pre-aim in Hip before hitting ADS  and having the ADS translator on Hip throws it off just that slight bit?  I don't know.  Going to test it plenty more tonight in bots and then in real matches.

Right now, Progressive seems like a winner as I haven't noticed any hitches yet and it allows me to set my look speeds independently.  That will be hard to pass up, but I will, if I see any issues with aiming that arise after more testing.  Initial thoughts are great though.  Knock on wood lol.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 01:21 PM - 11/25/15
+1 Obs for the ignore.

:)

Wow, we do have some very demanding people in the community that absolutely must be heard.

Yes we are at 8ms in 20151120. No, we aren't working on making it lower right now as we have higher priority things going on.

Lol, sorry for asking questions about a product I bought.
Haven't we changed our tune.

I feel like the question I asked could have been answered in less than a second of your time, and no I wasn't going to ask if you were working on lowering it, at least not out in the open, so as not to draw in people asking you to lower it.

But thanks for confirming that you ignored the PM I sent you.

Demanding? Have to be heard? Sorry for buying your product and asking about a feature you listed in the change log.

Sorry, did you not expect or want people to ask you about new changes? Isn't the point of a change log so that we can see the products progress?

And before anyone starts with the whole "entitlement" bag, I wasn't demanding to know anything I asked a simple question about a listed feature..
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: bensyy on 01:24 PM - 11/25/15
Hello.
Why on Roccat Tyon xim the manager does not recognize the numeric keypad. I'm very limited on key associate.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 01:30 PM - 11/25/15
+1 Obs for the ignore.

:)

Wow, we do have some very demanding people in the community that absolutely must be heard.

Yes we are at 8ms in 20151120. No, we aren't working on making it lower right now as we have higher priority things going on.

Lol, sorry for asking questions about a product I bought.
Haven't we changed our tune.

I feel like the question I asked could have been answered in less than a second of your time, and no I wasn't going to ask if you were working on lowering it, at least not out in the open, so as not to draw in people asking you to lower it.

But thanks for confirming that you ignored the PM I sent you.

Demanding? Have to be heard? Sorry for buying your product and asking about a feature you listed in the change log.

Sorry, did you not expect or want people to ask you about new changes? Isn't the point of a change log so that we can see the products progress?

And before anyone starts with the whole "entitlement" bag, I wasn't demanding to know anything I asked a simple question about a listed feature..


We try very hard to answer all questions and it isn't our intention to ignore anyone. Your PMs are among many I get every day so it is very possible that some can get missed (from you or any other member).

If there is an update for update rate, it'll be announced -- the change won't be hidden from the community.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 01:40 PM - 11/25/15
Thank you, and so I clearly asked what you meant by a "rewrite of the lower level USB com" since it sounded like it could have been something to do with the USB polling to someone who isn't in the know.

Again it was a simple question, it was ignored for fear of drawing attention to polling again I believe, but that wasn't my intention for asking.

It was out of pure ignorance.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: zowie player on 01:59 PM - 11/25/15
its a under the hood change. Do you really think your gona understand what changed?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: sphinx on 02:04 PM - 11/25/15
Default 1.3 Halo 5 ST, no curve and no steady aim at 10.5 sens. 

I've spent the morning on an alt account in ffa trying different sensitivities, with and without steady aim, gunnits curve, boosts, and nothing feels right. In pistol battles at high level play people always jump and thrust to make you miss your last headshot and it's become much much harder to do the quick precision aiming to hit that last shot which gets me killed.

Maybe the update is an improvement to other games but unless I'm missing something it isn't going to work well at all for Halo 5. I'm guessing going back to 816 would reformat the XiM profiles?

I take all of this back. I wasn't liking it when I got off yesterfday but decided to wait to see what other Halo 5 players thoughts and perhaps tweaks were before going back to the older build. When I got on today I'm not sure what happened but it felt like a completely new ST, no more of the turn speed problems or lack of precision. the 20151120 build feels amazing with the 1.3 Halo 5 ST now. Yesterday I ever tried unplugging the XiM and plugging it back in but it didn't change anything. I'm not sure why resetting the xbox made such a big difference but I'm happy it did, Halo 5 feels better than ever.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 02:11 PM - 11/25/15
its a under the hood change. Do you really think your gona understand what changed?

Hi Zowie :D..

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/17X7yqBFqvg/maxresdefault.jpg)

BWEEEE BWEEEE!!
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 03:09 PM - 11/25/15
it was ignored for fear of drawing attention to polling again I believe

Not at all -- I'm not afraid to talk about anything product related. The level of incoming messages and posts is overwhelming. It's a good problem to have, but, things get dropped.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 03:16 PM - 11/25/15
I take it the new guy talked you out of lowering it then.

Sad days.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: mist4fun on 03:17 PM - 11/25/15
I take all of this back. I wasn't liking it when I got off yesterfday but decided to wait to see what other Halo 5 players thoughts and perhaps tweaks were before going back to the older build. When I got on today I'm not sure what happened but it felt like a completely new ST, no more of the turn speed problems or lack of precision. the 20151120 build feels amazing with the 1.3 Halo 5 ST now. Yesterday I ever tried unplugging the XiM and plugging it back in but it didn't change anything. I'm not sure why resetting the xbox made such a big difference but I'm happy it did, Halo 5 feels better than ever.

Do you use instant on? I've found that game performance can be unstable or unreliable if you don't close the game when you're finished. There is something about using instant on and the xbox game resume that will sometimes make the experience worse.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: ColdMan on 03:30 PM - 11/25/15
Thank you, and so I clearly asked what you meant by a "rewrite of the lower level USB com" since it sounded like it could have been something to do with the USB polling to someone who isn't in the know.

Again it was a simple question, it was ignored for fear of drawing attention to polling again I believe, but that wasn't my intention for asking.

It was out of pure ignorance.

Still dont know what exactly means "rewrite of the lower level USB com"  but everything is really better now but also would like an explanation from ObsIV
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 03:48 PM - 11/25/15
Well you're free to ask him. I didn't want him to go in depth, I just wanted to know if it was polling related.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: PUBzZz on 03:52 PM - 11/25/15
I know some people would like to see the 1ms polling be implemented. However we aren't the developer of the XIM and I'm sure there are some things that need to be considered before investing the time to make it happen.

OBsIV from your current view point on the issue can you chime in as the brains behind XIM4 on the two questions below. This way we all have a much more clear understanding moving forward. Because some people just hear 1ms and want that cause it's sounds better than 8ms.


1.So what would be the actual in game benefit of 1ms polling to the XIM4 user?


2.What do you feel are the roadblocks stopping the XIM4 from taking advantage of 1ms polling as of right now?


Thanks
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: JONNYROCKET on 04:53 PM - 11/25/15
I'm assuming you're talking about how fast the response time is from Xim to controller/game? Basically like how my PC monitor is better then my TV for gaming?

I didn't know that we are running 8ms. It does seem high for competitive gaming? If we can lower this, I would think it would have a great impact.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: PUBzZz on 06:05 PM - 11/25/15
I'm assuming you're talking about how fast the response time is from Xim to controller/game? Basically like how my PC monitor is better then my TV for gaming?

I didn't know that we are running 8ms. It does seem high for competitive gaming? If we can lower this, I would think it would have a great impact.

I put my trust in OBsIV because as the developer of the XIM only he really knows the true power of what can and can't be done with it.  That's why I think it would be great for all of us to hear directly from him in regards to the two questions I posted for him.   

Like you said 1ms > 8ms but I think only he knows the difference the end user would actually notice. We're just assuming 1ms > 8ms at this point cause less/faster is better but he must know something we don't that won't be a benefit to the XIM user. Otherwise I'm guessing he would have implemented it already. 
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: zowie player on 06:43 PM - 11/25/15
its a under the hood change. Do you really think your gona understand what changed?

Hi Zowie :D..


BWEEEE BWEEEE!!
Your already under my scope!
BWEEEE BWEEEE!!
(http://i.imgur.com/o6MDWAd.png)
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 06:50 PM - 11/25/15
its a under the hood change. Do you really think your gona understand what changed?

Hi Zowie :D..


BWEEEE BWEEEE!!
Your already under my scope!
BWEEEE BWEEEE!!
(http://i.imgur.com/o6MDWAd.png)

Knew it!!!!  Scopeception! CBA booting up PS to scope your scope while I'm scoping your scope..
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: legends2710 on 06:51 PM - 11/25/15
OK I have test the firmware with and without Titan One.  Here is my results

WIthout titan one No purple lights

With Titan One purple lights but not as bad as before.

Here is titan one settings

Speed Up Settings:

 - Inframe Out
 
Check if there is more data to send to Console within current USB frame. This setting helps improve performance and reduce input lag.
 
- Inframe In
 
Check if there is more data to receive from Controller within current USB frame. This setting helps improve performance and reduce input lag.
 
- 1ms Response
 
A response time of one millisecond is the fastest response time possible for USB devices. Disabling this option will make the device run at the original speed of the Console currently in use.

Now the infamous one is the 1ms Response which cause the purple light to pulse like crazy.

I disable all 3 settings, even though the purple light still happen its doesn't appear often like before.   

Does the device freeze or stop working when you get the purple lights? I am scared to upgrade if my T1 won't work anymore.
The devices functions as if nothing happens.  You just have to put up with the occasional flashing.

As soon as my xim flashes purple the response from my mouse movements degrade badly. The titan one is completely unusable for me with this occurring.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 06:55 PM - 11/25/15
The purple flash is a notification that is warning you that aiming experience may be degraded due to timing errors.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: legends2710 on 07:00 PM - 11/25/15
The purple flash is a notification that is warning you that aiming experience may be degraded due to timing errors.

Yea that's what i figured. I just purchased the t1 to see what it was all about. Looks like it will be unusable to me for now unless the response time between the two devices are fixed.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 07:16 PM - 11/25/15
The purple flash is a notification that is warning you that aiming experience may be degraded due to timing errors.

And are these usually hardware based problems that were being notified of? ie too many LEDs on our gaming equipment?

What is a typical cause of this?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 07:18 PM - 11/25/15
I mentioned to J2K (creator of T1) a few months ago that we had a big firmware change coming (this one). If he contacts me about it, I'll assist. T1/CM must be off on timing at the USB packet level for this to happen.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: legends2710 on 08:10 PM - 11/25/15
I hope he reachs out to you. He has mentioned there will be a new fw update for the t1 soon.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Amuro on 11:00 PM - 11/25/15
I mentioned to J2K (creator of T1) a few months ago that we had a big firmware change coming (this one). If he contacts me about it, I'll assist. T1/CM must be off on timing at the USB packet level for this to happen.
CM+ is not flashing purple anymore if I turn disable all the Speed Up settings.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: mist4fun on 11:05 AM - 11/26/15
Does T1 have the same type of "speed up" settings?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Gurnaldo on 11:49 AM - 11/26/15
Has anything changed in regards to translator performance between this release and the previous progressive delay RC.

If its just a few cosmetics changes as noted in the logs i can wait for a full release but all i keep seeing is people talking about how it feels smoother XD
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Wokmeister on 12:14 PM - 11/26/15
Whatever you did to the usb hub support it seems to have worked so far.  I have now been able to switch to and from the pc for the last few hours without a single crash, it has worked perfectly and makes things SO much easier.  The previous RC was at best a 20% success rate when switching back to the xim without it crashing.

Not having to press the PS button also makes things a lot easier!  Have not noticed any issues so far.

*edit* damnit spoke too soon, the second I switch back from writing that post, it stops working.  It is different this time though, the xim is still solid red but the mouse and kb seem to be getting no power.  I have tried switching back and forth a few times and same thing, seemingly no power to mouse and kb when its switched to the xim, works fine when back to the pc.  It had worked ok for maybe 10 switches before that and previously whenever it stopped working the xim would go white, now its staying red and has not crashed, the dualshock is plugged directly into the xim and is still working through the xim it just seems to be the xim has stopped giving power to the kb and mouse and is going to require unplugging to reset it.  Seems like it might be a more easily fixble problem than the constant crashing it was doing before :P
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 12:19 PM - 11/26/15
Has anything changed in regards to translator performance between this release and the previous progressive delay RC.

If its just a few cosmetics changes as noted in the logs i can wait for a full release but all i keep seeing is people talking about how it feels smoother XD

Yep same, and tbh I can't tell if its the new FW or the fact I changed out my KVM to just a hub, or the game on a good day, or what.. But it felt really nice.

Placebo possibility with the FW, so it must have been the KVM, but ilthat makes no sense, since it was only handling a keyboard and Recon3D......
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: mist4fun on 01:33 PM - 11/26/15
Wokmeister, do you have usb hotswapping enabled in menu->globals? This is required for switch users.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Wokmeister on 02:00 PM - 11/26/15
I had hot swapping enabled a while ago but it was strangely a lot more reliable with it turned off so I avoided it.  I have not tried it turned on in this new version so I will try that.  It has so far (in the relatively short testing) been a lot more reliable than the previous even without it.  Hopefully the hotswapping makes it perfect :P
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: ColdMan on 02:08 PM - 11/26/15
Has anything changed in regards to translator performance between this release and the previous progressive delay RC.

If its just a few cosmetics changes as noted in the logs i can wait for a full release but all i keep seeing is people talking about how it feels smoother XD

Yep same, and tbh I can't tell if its the new FW or the fact I changed out my KVM to just a hub, or the game on a good day, or what.. But it felt really nice.

Placebo possibility with the FW, so it must have been the KVM, but ilthat makes no sense, since it was only handling a keyboard and Recon3D......

No placebo for me i feel more responsive and fluid than before
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: legends2710 on 05:43 PM - 11/26/15
Does T1 have the same type of "speed up" settings?
Yes it helps a little, but you still get the occasional purple lights and degraded mouse movements.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Blakkpatron on 09:06 PM - 11/26/15
I take it the new guy talked you out of lowering it then.

Sad days.
sad days indeed.
still hoping for 1ms for ps4 and 4ms for xbox one.
maybe one day :-\
this new firmware is pointless to upgrade to? compared to the last rc?
I just don't see from the changelog what is supposed to be improved?
are translations the same, is the reportrate the same?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Gurnaldo on 01:52 AM - 11/27/15
Can someone advise what the STv2 aiming fidelity improvement is (is this just the intro of STv2 or an improvement to STv2 that is a worthy upgrade).

Thank You
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 02:05 AM - 11/27/15
Here you go: http://xim4.com/community/index.php?topic=39216.0
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Gurnaldo on 02:13 AM - 11/27/15
Sorry but that doesn't seem to answer the question.

I am on the Progressive Delay RC and all i want to know is if there is a change to the ST between this RC and that one

Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 05:30 AM - 11/27/15
Gurnaldo the latest FW in release candidates HAS Progressive Delay ... Why are you still on the PD FW?


Quote from: OBsIV
A new Release Candidate firmware drop and Manager is now available: Firmware 20151120, Manager 20151120

This new drop contains improvements such as Xbox One Elite controller support (including cross console), PlayStation 4 TouchPad support, reenable of wireless Sony Move Nav (was disabled in the last Beta), and several stability improvements to wireless communication, audio fidelity, and hardware compatibility.

You'll also notice that, on startup, your XIM4 will now notify you when initialization is complete by displaying four rapid green blinks.

And, for PlayStation 4 users, pressing the PS button on your Dualshock 4 is no longer required at startup (your controller will now connect automatically).

This release also contains a new Console Controller Crossover Config that makes using controllers from other consoles simple. When you add a new Config of this type to your XIM4, it'll automatically configure it with all the correct button bindings so you can start gaming immediately. As always, to use crossover support, set up your XIM4 normally but plug in your controller from a different console into a front port on your XIM4. Then, load this new Config type and you are ready to go.

Please check out the release notes for the complete list. And, as always, we look forward to your feedback!

I guess there was no change the STv2 at all, so for my personal setup, it must have been the KVM, which I still can't understand as it was only feeding my keyboard to the XIM and PC and my sound card between the PC and PS4..

I mean if there was no change to STv2 then that's what it had to have been. But I guess its OK to let speculation run a mock when people are claiming an improvement.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Gurnaldo on 05:34 AM - 11/27/15
Because i dont want to upgrade to a breaking change if there is no real reason at the mo.

Little bit of laziness on my part but if it aint broke ;)
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 05:39 AM - 11/27/15
Because i dont want to upgrade to a breaking change if there is no real reason at the mo.

Little bit of laziness on my part but if it aint broke ;)

How is it a breaking change if you only play COD? Copy your Configuration, update and paste, that's what I did.

If you play more than COD its a little more fiddly I guess.
At the very least you could copy your button binds.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Web-head on 10:53 AM - 11/27/15
Because i dont want to upgrade to a breaking change if there is no real reason at the mo.

Little bit of laziness on my part but if it aint broke ;)

I'm pretty sure you can just do an upgrade from that FW and not a restore, so your configs will be intact.  I upgraded from the 11/10 FW to the 11/20 FW with no issue.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Web-head on 10:55 AM - 11/27/15
As for STv2 improvements, Obs would know better than me, obviously, but I think that they have just left that bullet in the last few changelogs to denote the change from the official FW that the XIM4 comes with, but that there aren't actually improvements to STv2 in all of the releases since the 2014 build.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Gurnaldo on 11:30 AM - 11/27/15
+1

Cheers for the info Web

I am just being lazy and i think u guys r right in the fact its only breaking if u r on an old FW
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Amuro on 12:20 AM - 11/28/15
The next breaking update will break me as I have like 18 configs on my XIM, LOL.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 12:52 AM - 11/28/15
The next breaking update will break me as I have like 18 configs on my XIM, LOL.

Don't worry, we don't plan on changing the configuration format for awhile.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: chipdeechip on 02:26 AM - 11/28/15
Hi i downloaded firmware 20151120 and it worked great. I seem to be having problems connecting to my android to xim4. When it does connect it does not pick up ps4 nav controller.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: KuzuRanger on 03:55 AM - 11/28/15
EDIT: my comments were covered and issue fixed in NAV thread.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: scrotesmd on 06:16 AM - 11/28/15
I had a disconnect mid game also, I'll test later on hopefully just an once off. Had to restart the ps4
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Wokmeister on 12:16 PM - 11/28/15
Whatever you did to the usb hub support it seems to have worked so far.  I have now been able to switch to and from the pc for the last few hours without a single crash, it has worked perfectly and makes things SO much easier.  The previous RC was at best a 20% success rate when switching back to the xim without it crashing.

Not having to press the PS button also makes things a lot easier!  Have not noticed any issues so far.

*edit* damnit spoke too soon, the second I switch back from writing that post, it stops working.  It is different this time though, the xim is still solid red but the mouse and kb seem to be getting no power.  I have tried switching back and forth a few times and same thing, seemingly no power to mouse and kb when its switched to the xim, works fine when back to the pc.  It had worked ok for maybe 10 switches before that and previously whenever it stopped working the xim would go white, now its staying red and has not crashed, the dualshock is plugged directly into the xim and is still working through the xim it just seems to be the xim has stopped giving power to the kb and mouse and is going to require unplugging to reset it.  Seems like it might be a more easily fixble problem than the constant crashing it was doing before :P

Ok as mist said I tried putting hotswapping on (which in the previous firmware made things less stable when switching, so I had it turned off).  I have not had a single issue switching with my hub since so it seems to be working perfectly now.  I am using an ATEN US224, Razer deathadder chroma and corsair k70 RGB in bios mode (with lights still on).

I have had no other issues at all so far.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Mannon on 03:03 PM - 11/28/15
I realize that this might be old news....but I just updated from 1114. The absolute best thing about this for me is that my IOgear switcher works without a white light from the XIM, fricken love it. Thank you!  Maybe I should log in more often vs not, apparently more is visible that way, lol.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: nyder on 09:31 PM - 11/28/15
love the new firmware, noticed one odd thing and don't know if this was happening  before.  I recently swiched from the Sony Nav to the razor orbweaver.

It seems like after my setup has been up and running for a while i can no longer bind keys to the orbweaver.
The keys that are bound respond in game, but if i try to bind a new key the manager just sits there listening and not seeing the keys i'm hitting on the orbweaver.  If I disconnect the xim and reconnect it, bingo it will bind keys agian.

Any ideas?

thanks.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Blakkpatron on 09:52 PM - 11/28/15
guess I should add that my kvm switch isn't acting up like it did with the previous release candidate. So whatever you guys did it was for the better :P
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: mist4fun on 10:27 PM - 11/28/15
love the new firmware, noticed one odd thing and don't know if this was happening  before.  I recently swiched from the Sony Nav to the razor orbweaver.

It seems like after my setup has been up and running for a while i can no longer bind keys to the orbweaver.
The keys that are bound respond in game, but if i try to bind a new key the manager just sits there listening and not seeing the keys i'm hitting on the orbweaver.  If I disconnect the xim and reconnect it, bingo it will bind keys agian.

Any ideas?

thanks.

I actually hit this today but I thought it was related to something else. If it comes up again before I run into it send over a tracelog after it happens.

Please email the results to [email protected] and [email protected]
http://cloud.xim4.com/Debug/XIM4TraceLog.pdf
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Amuro on 11:07 PM - 11/28/15
Is DS4 Sixaxis function going to be supported in the future?  With the previous 0816 firmware I was able to get Sixaxis working when using CM+ but not any more with the new firmware.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: nyder on 12:04 AM - 11/29/15
love the new firmware, noticed one odd thing and don't know if this was happening  before.  I recently swiched from the Sony Nav to the razor orbweaver.

It seems like after my setup has been up and running for a while i can no longer bind keys to the orbweaver.
The keys that are bound respond in game, but if i try to bind a new key the manager just sits there listening and not seeing the keys i'm hitting on the orbweaver.  If I disconnect the xim and reconnect it, bingo it will bind keys agian.

Any ideas?

thanks.

I actually hit this today but I thought it was related to something else. If it comes up again before I run into it send over a tracelog after it happens.

Please email the results to [email protected] and [email protected]
http://cloud.xim4.com/Debug/XIM4TraceLog.pdf

Just sent,

this is consistent behavior so didn't take long to reporoduce.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: mist4fun on 11:18 AM - 11/29/15
Thanks. I don't think it will come up in the log but I was curious. I'll take a look.

Could you see if it's just buttons? Can you adjust your sensitivity or curve? Set either to an extreme, such as 0 sensitivity or a flat curve.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: nyder on 04:03 PM - 11/29/15
Thanks. I don't think it will come up in the log but I was curious. I'll take a look.

Could you see if it's just buttons? Can you adjust your Cor curve? Set either to an extreme, such as 0 sensitivity or a flat curve.
Thanks. I don't think it will come up in the log but I was curious. I'll take a look.

Could you see if it's just buttons? Can you adjust your sensitivity or curve? Set either to an extreme, such as 0 sensitivity or a flat curve.

I can adjust settings, change curves even bind keys etc, only the orbweaver is impacted.  The orbweaver's previously bound keys work but cannot bind any new keys, manager just says listening after I hit the key on the orbweaver i want to bind.

I can bind after disonnecting xim etc

Nyd
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: mist4fun on 04:07 PM - 11/29/15
I won't be able to attempt to reproduce this until tomorrow. Do you know of a way to reproduce it?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: nyder on 06:26 PM - 11/29/15
I won't be able to attempt to reproduce this until tomorrow. Do you know of a way to reproduce it?

I just have PS4 on, using a G700 mouse and the orbweaver connected  to the xim 4. 
I tend to just put the ps4 to sleep rather than shutting down.

I just powered down the PS4 and then manually started it, once everything booted up and used the g700 to select my profile and I am able to bind the prbweaver keys via XIM manager.

After 20/30 minutes or so if I go to bind a key in xim manager it will not acknowledge key presses on the Orbweaver.  However, the keys already bound work fine. 

Hope that helps.

Nyd
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 10:38 PM - 11/29/15
After 20/30 minutes or so if I go to bind a key in xim manager it will not acknowledge key presses on the Orbweaver.  However, the keys already bound work fine. 

Now that's very strange. Does that mean, on XIM4 Manager's main screen, that you only see Orbweaver keypresses for keys already bound but not for keys are aren't current bound?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Santigold on 09:06 AM - 11/30/15
can we bind that "share" button on the ps4 to some keyboard key with the xim4? Cause I cant find this feature.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 10:24 AM - 11/30/15
Sorry, the Share button isn't bindable yet.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 10:45 AM - 11/30/15
Sorry, the Share button isn't bindable yet.

Hands up for all those that are going to bind it to f12 like most PC SS buttons xD.

Happy to see the "yet" in there OBsIV.

Are you able to talk at all about why it been hard to implement a share button?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Santigold on 11:33 AM - 11/30/15
Sucks to hear that  ;D

Ofcourse it would be F12, what else  :D @ yeesh
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 12:00 PM - 11/30/15
Ofcourse it would be F12, what else  :D @ yeesh

:D well the likes of you an a few others around here, I'd recommend the F key with the frequency in which you will obtain worthy clips.

I'll have mine over on F12 simply because its not a button I'll be using all that often xD....
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: r0b on 01:16 PM - 11/30/15
Not sure if this is a 20151120 Firmware issue or not.... but the Xim 4 is not working with my Corsair STRAFE Cherry MX Red keyboard. Is this a known issue that the keyboard is not supported or is this a firmware issue?

If the keyboard is not supported, any clue when it might be supported? Thank you for the help.

Just FYI, the keyboard is lit up when connected to Xim 4 and the Xim manager on my Android tablet recognizes that the keyboard is plugged in. There is just no response when I press any key.

Hey Dave, try hooking this keyboard up to your PC, install the software and apply the BIOS mode setting to it and then try it on your XIM again. I know my K70 needs to be in BIOS mode, mine has a switch, but yours needs to be set in the software that comes with your keyboard.

Try this and let us know if this works, I was thinking about getting one of these keyboards ...
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: nid4en on 02:03 PM - 11/30/15
I can not download the software, or gets damaged and very slowly, please help
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: mist4fun on 02:32 PM - 11/30/15
Does using another web browser help?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Pyro2577 on 04:53 AM - 12/01/15
Updated from 20150212 to 20151120 Nav is working fine i had to Factory reset as it didn't pull the settings over.

1 thing i noticed was that the Xim4 stays on again after PS4 goes into rest mode.

Also DS4 starts when the PS4 starts but the light does not come on the controller.

Cheers.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: sieferswe82 on 01:28 PM - 12/01/15
Just upgraded. Really happy so far. No problems yet on ps4.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: The Pfhor on 06:27 AM - 12/02/15
I mentioned to J2K (creator of T1) a few months ago that we had a big firmware change coming (this one). If he contacts me about it, I'll assist. T1/CM must be off on timing at the USB packet level for this to happen.

So what's the deal with some here using their T1 and Cronus Max's with the XIM4? What are they trying to accomplish?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 10:38 AM - 12/02/15
I mentioned to J2K (creator of T1) a few months ago that we had a big firmware change coming (this one). If he contacts me about it, I'll assist. T1/CM must be off on timing at the USB packet level for this to happen.

So what's the deal with some here using their T1 and Cronus Max's with the XIM4? What are they trying to accomplish?

Macros.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Kochise on 12:15 PM - 12/02/15
I mentioned to J2K (creator of T1) a few months ago that we had a big firmware change coming (this one). If he contacts me about it, I'll assist. T1/CM must be off on timing at the USB packet level for this to happen.

So what's the deal with some here using their T1 and Cronus Max's with the XIM4? What are they trying to accomplish?

Macros.

I've tried every possible combination found here and instructions from J2k and still can't get the T1 to authenticate the xim. 

I did notice a change however after using this RC.  Previously the xim would just cycle powering up but now with this RC it does stay on and displays proper lights.  No go on authentication however.

I'm going to send T1 back and try another but would seem odd as it works with a controller and I know my xim4 operates perfectly.  So only thing I can conclude is a possible faulty T1.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: stingray on 07:48 PM - 12/02/15
On the latest firmware. XIM has turned me into a console player.  I have no issue switching back and forth between pc and xbox now.  Controls feel exactly the same.  Great job!  Love making changes on the fly with my S4.

No serious issues to report.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: SanchoPansen on 06:43 AM - 12/03/15
J3 & J4 on the Move Nav seem to be switched around on the latest version.
When I use/bind left (J3) to the 'pad left button' on the Xim4 it says J4 and is bound vice versa (going right).
Same goes for J4 and pad right. This causes to cancel out some commands on e.g. Destiny where I have secondary bound R1 + L1 (Jump + Grenade) to pad right + left in order to use those 2 buttons in the menu.
I also made screenshots of my Xim Manager before updating in order to get my old settings restored faster and the buttons on the old settings screenshots show J3 and J4 the other way around (J3 is now J4 and vice versa).
Hope you guys get what I mean as it's a little bit hard to explain.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: ShortSchoolBus on 07:46 AM - 12/03/15
I have not seen this posted yet.
Xbox 360. BF3. (yes I went old school yesterday).
The up and down axis is very jerky. Left/right is fine. BF4 is fine. Tried adjusting sensitivity to smooth is out, but to no avail. It seems to move fine for a few movements then jerks wildly up or down almost like turn assist goes to a rapid movement.
Anyone else?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: mist4fun on 10:41 AM - 12/03/15
Do you have steady aim on?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: ShortSchoolBus on 11:12 AM - 12/03/15
tried with it on and off. No change.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: mist4fun on 11:21 AM - 12/03/15
Do you have boost enabled? I don't remember if BF3 used specific advanced in-game settings like BF4 and HL. Do you see in-game settings like this?

Sensitivity
Zoom Sensitivity
Uniform Soldier Aim
Advanced Options
Coefficient
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: xXxDieselxXx on 11:42 AM - 12/03/15
My only issue is I have to connect the the X1 controller back to the XIM4 to initiate power to all the devices.

Basically I start the X1, the XIM4 is all powered up with no purple lights then nothing happens until I unplug the controller and plug it back.

I tried doing a full X1 reset/power off and still happens.

Not a big deal I can live with this :) just wanted to report it.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 11:57 AM - 12/03/15
Can you start up normally with everything connected (including your controller)?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: xXxDieselxXx on 12:00 PM - 12/03/15
Can you start up normally with everything connected (including your controller)?

Hi OBsIV,

Yes, that's exactly what I do. It's all connected just the XIM4 will show powered up.

Then I just have to unplug the controller from the XIm4 then back and right away I can feel the controller rumbling and seconds later all the devices power up.

I should mention it used to work fine before with the same  20151120  version but somehow it lost it next day when I tried tweaking some games. So I tried re-connecting everything, swapping devices, etc.

Maybe I should try a XIM factory reset and try to reload everything again.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: sieferswe82 on 12:51 PM - 12/03/15
Wanna report purple blinking lights when using fat ps3 latest firmware and with Resistance 3. Seems to be working pretty solid anyways however. Also turning off ps3 while having xim connected makes it turn itself on allmost immediately. Minor stuff but I wanted to bring this to your attention ☺
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: ShortSchoolBus on 01:11 PM - 12/03/15
Mist:
No advanced settings that I can think of. I will recheck tonight, but I have not done anything different to BF3 from before. Just updated the new firmware to Xim4. I may install the BF3 one again. If that doesn't work do a full reinstall.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: mist4fun on 01:32 PM - 12/03/15
Ok, it wouldn't hurt to see if this happens with other games too.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 01:55 PM - 12/03/15
Wanna report purple blinking lights when using fat ps3 latest firmware and with Resistance 3. Seems to be working pretty solid anyways however. Also turning off ps3 while having xim connected makes it turn itself on allmost immediately. Minor stuff but I wanted to bring this to your attention ☺

Thanks. Could you tell us when you see the purple lights? Are they constant or do you see them specifically when you do something?

Yes, the power on issue happens because your DS3 is going into wireless mode and turning your console back on. The only option is to unpair your DS3 from your console.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: ShortSchoolBus on 02:19 PM - 12/03/15
Mist,
I only play BF4 and BF3. It doesn't happen in BF4.
thanks
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: sieferswe82 on 04:11 PM - 12/03/15
OBsIV :

I will check next time I use my PS3. But i am allmost certain that is pretty frequent but not constant. It occasionally goes in to normal mode with profile color showing normal on the xim. Seems to be random. Will check more next time.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 04:31 PM - 12/03/15
We are going to need a trace log from you to understand what's going on. Could you capture one for us while it happens? Instructions are at http://cloud.xim4.com/Debug/XIM4TraceLog.pdf. Then send to [email protected]
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: mist4fun on 05:29 PM - 12/03/15
Mist,
I only play BF4 and BF3. It doesn't happen in BF4.
thanks

I might have BF3 still. If I can find it I can take a look at it.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: ShortSchoolBus on 06:56 PM - 12/03/15
Mist,
Full reinstall. Still doing it. Downgraded to last 20150816. It was doing it on there as well. BF3 doesnt have special settings except auto aim. It did it with on and off. It seems less with ADS if at all. BF4 works fine.
I thought I have played BF3 with 20150816, but maybe I have not.
thanks
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: mist4fun on 07:35 PM - 12/03/15
Holy cow that is bad. Thank you for the report.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: ShortSchoolBus on 09:07 PM - 12/03/15
No...thank you for all the support!
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: mist4fun on 10:50 AM - 12/04/15
I'll have the updated BF3 STs ready to go out with R6 and Just Cause 3.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: ShortSchoolBus on 11:00 AM - 12/04/15
Awesome. Thanks!
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: sieferswe82 on 02:47 PM - 12/06/15
We are going to need a trace log from you to understand what's going on. Could you capture one for us while it happens? Instructions are at http://cloud.xim4.com/Debug/XIM4TraceLog.pdf. Then send to [email protected]
Will do
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: geekdll on 12:17 PM - 12/07/15
I been using this firmware since release and its been working great. Love the progressive ADS. Great work guys thanks
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 12:46 PM - 12/07/15
I been using this firmware since release and its been working great. Love the progressive ADS. Great work guys thanks

Thanks. We have another drop coming this month with additional fixes too.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: CheBbaby on 09:28 PM - 12/12/15
Support for the Extreme 3D Pro Joystick is awesome!  Thanks for including the "swap sticks" option.  Is there any way to enable the z-axis (twist) and throttle control to handle the left-stick controls?  This would be great for air vehicles in Battlefront and BF4 for enabling throttle and yaw control. Any chance this is on the roadmap?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 01:29 AM - 12/13/15
Welcome to the community. Thanks for the feedback. this is something (more flexible stick binding) we'd like to do when we get to full generic joystick and racing wheel support.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Jezzer on 10:52 AM - 12/13/15
Is it possible to downgrade to 20150816 ??
Can i just update the XIM4 with 20150816 to downgrade it?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: mist4fun on 10:54 AM - 12/13/15
ShortSchoolBus, were you able to test the updated BF3 ST?

Is it possible to downgrade to 20150816 ??
Can i just update the XIM4 with 20150816 to downgrade it?

You can factory restore using 816, install the 816 Manager, and go over the re pairing steps. Why are you wanting to downgrade?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Jezzer on 11:10 AM - 12/13/15
ShortSchoolBus, were you able to test the updated BF3 ST?

Is it possible to downgrade to 20150816 ??
Can i just update the XIM4 with 20150816 to downgrade it?

You can factory restore using 816, install the 816 Manager, and go over the re pairing steps. Why are you wanting to downgrade?

Hmm then i will loose all my profiles right?
Well i tried a zillion curves for BO3 and for the last one i tried i needed to upgrade to 1120 but just like all the other curves i tried for BO3 they are, for me, all worse than BO2 ps3 ST... Yeah BO2 st plays best for me in BO3 :)
But after upgrading to 1120 i a have some issues with ADS on the B02 ps3 ST, its like massive sticky aim and i did not have that with 816.

Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 11:41 AM - 12/13/15
1120 has our new "Progressive Delay" feature for ADS.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: ShortSchoolBus on 01:32 PM - 12/14/15
Mist,
Sorry for the delay. New ST is perfect!
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: mist4fun on 02:47 PM - 12/14/15
Great. Thanks for reporting back. :)
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Pyro2577 on 05:32 PM - 12/14/15
Hi Sorry i didn't see a reply to my question about the Xim4 staying on when PS4 goes into Rest mode?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 06:26 PM - 12/14/15
PS4 rest mode continues to keep it's ports powered for charging devices.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Leotigano on 09:11 PM - 12/14/15
[FOR DESTINY PLAYERS]

Is it worth to upgrade from 20141114 to 20151120 firmware ?

I only play destiny on my Xim4 (ps4) and have no problems so far. I was just wondering if will it improve my gaming experience, remain the same for destiny or even make it worse.

I saw one member saying that he downgraded because he had some issues for aiming headshots on DESTINY with the new smart translator.
Does anyone else experience some problems or benefits ?

Thanks a lot!
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: alicel833 on 01:26 PM - 12/15/15
I dont know if anyone talks about this issue yet, controller stops response for a few second while the keyboard and mouse are still working and then controller will work again later, or sometimes the whole thing just die(flash yellow light), so I have to restart the system. Never happen to me before the Firmware 20151120.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: systole on 12:21 PM - 12/17/15
I dont know if anyone talks about this issue yet, controller stops response for a few second while the keyboard and mouse are still working and then controller will work again later, or sometimes the whole thing just die(flash yellow light), so I have to restart the system. Never happen to me before the Firmware 20151120.
I've had this same issue happen only once that I've noticed. No particular context other than I noticed when I pulled up the ps4 system menu while in game. The controller is close by me and noticed the slow yellow "charging" pulse. The controller wouldn't register input even with a PS button push, yet the mouse and nav stick worked fine. When I checked the Android app the ps4 controller icon was not shown at the top, but mouse still worked. Replugged xim4 and it shown/functioned correctly. Only happened once and no biggie :)
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: mist4fun on 12:29 PM - 12/17/15
I dont know if anyone talks about this issue yet, controller stops response for a few second while the keyboard and mouse are still working and then controller will work again later, or sometimes the whole thing just die(flash yellow light), so I have to restart the system. Never happen to me before the Firmware 20151120.

Which platform are you on?


I've had this same issue happen only once that I've noticed. No particular context other than I noticed when I pulled up the ps4 system menu while in game. The controller is close by me and noticed the slow yellow "charging" pulse. The controller wouldn't register input even with a PS button push, yet the mouse and nav stick worked fine. When I checked the Android app the ps4 controller icon was not shown at the top, but mouse still worked. Replugged xim4 and it shown/functioned correctly. Only happened once and no biggie :)

It sounds like your ds4 battery may have been low? You may need to eventually detach you controller and fully charge it.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: scrotesmd on 02:21 PM - 12/18/15
I'm finding this firmware pretty unstable, keep getting disconnected and having to restart the ps4, nothing fixes only a restart. It's beta so not complaining BTW
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 04:17 PM - 12/18/15
I'm finding this firmware pretty unstable, keep getting disconnected and having to restart the ps4, nothing fixes only a restart. It's beta so not complaining BTW

This is a candidate for our net retail firmware on new XIM4's shipped. It's been really stable for everyone which is surprising to hear about the issues you are having.

What is getting disconnected? You are getting "controller disconnected"?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: scrotesmd on 02:17 AM - 12/19/15
Yeah its mouse and keyboard  that stop working, I can't work out what does it but think it could be the middle button on PS controller, when it happens I tried to switch user and restart the controller but no joy, I'll check for blinking lights next time. I'm almost sure I'm triggering it but still not sure how.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: scrotesmd on 02:21 AM - 12/19/15
Yeah the controller does disconnect also from memory, everything mouse keyboard and controller now that I think about it.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: q3sebo on 09:51 AM - 12/19/15
[FOR DESTINY PLAYERS]

Is it worth to upgrade from 20141114 to 20151120 firmware ?

I only play destiny on my Xim4 (ps4) and have no problems so far. I was just wondering if will it improve my gaming experience, remain the same for destiny or even make it worse.

I saw one member saying that he downgraded because he had some issues for aiming headshots on DESTINY with the new smart translator.
Does anyone else experience some problems or benefits ?

Thanks a lot!

When i was on 2014 everything was great. But when RML posted his UBER config for destiny in new 2015 version i decided to go forward to 082015 as well. I had some issues there with pairing my xim with manager so i have decided to go 112015. I have configured everything without a problem but now i have also issues with xim blinking yellow = turning my m&k off. So i will downgrade as well back to safe 2014 which i had by default with my xim4. As for destiny gaming experience i did not notice any diffrences in +. Maybe there is a problem with headshooting as i was having such feeling as well and now when i read that someone else mentioned it, it may be true.
As for my problem i dont think it is cable related. I never had such problems on 2014. When i changed to 2015 i can play like for all weekend and all works fine with maybe few m&k turning off situations and sometimes like now i cannot even make it to work. Everytime i plug out and in xim4 to my ps4 it initialize and sometimes blinks x4 green sometimes just dont. After it blinks x4 so potentially it booted ok, i sit down to my chair, m&k works and what i see few sec later? yep yellows ^^ and m&k are turning off :(.
If my cable was broken i would have such problem everytime not randomly i quess.
In my opinion 112015 is not stable for me and i do not recomend it expescialy if you have 2014 and play destiny :)
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 10:44 AM - 12/19/15
Yeah the controller does disconnect also from memory, everything mouse keyboard and controller now that I think about it.

This sounds like a faulty cable between your XIM4 and controller. Have you tried a different cable?

Reason I ask is because 20151120 is the most stable and reliable build that we have released to date. The entire codebase was rearchitected to be so. The feedback we've gotten of that last month supports that which is why I'm wondering how these problems you are seeing could be related to this new build.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: q3sebo on 11:43 AM - 12/19/15
Ok Obsiv i admire your work and you are awesome but as i see on this forum many many people are starting to report that they have issues with xim disconnecting m&k. Was it like that before or after you guys have realesed new firmware? It is strange for me that now there i a boom about this problem and one cure for all problems is to have valid cable. So i suppose all of as suddenly got our cable broken? You have design it to survive only 1 year or what? :D. I will downgrade to 2014 and see what happens. If problem will be still here you are correct if not, not :).
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 12:04 PM - 12/19/15
Yes, most times (based on forum support issues) it's a faulty cable. But yes, please downgrade and let us know. If it continues to happen, we are going to need a trace log from you to understand what's going on.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: q3sebo on 06:18 PM - 12/19/15
I am on 201411 now and so far so good, i will report later once i spend more time playing.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: scrotesmd on 03:27 AM - 12/20/15
I'll try another cable also its pretty intermittent, didn't happen in my last 2 gaming sessions.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: nutnsbolts on 09:15 AM - 12/20/15
How about chat pad xbox one issue? Not working for me when plugged into the xim4.  Unplugged and took xim4 out of the equation. It works. Controller updated and everything. Bug or issue?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: mist4fun on 10:51 AM - 12/20/15
This should be fixed in the next build.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: predcaliber on 05:02 AM - 12/21/15
I know it has been asked a lot of times, but I just cant find anywhere where to copy /paste the curves. 
On my smartphone, I visit the forum and copy the line, but I cant past it anywhere.   I have updated to the latest firmware and latest XIM manager :(
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 06:21 AM - 12/21/15
Next to the ballistics box, the one with the diagonal line thorough it. On the lower left right next to it..

Paste is the box icon with the arrow pointing down into it.
For the amount of times this question gets asked I don't know why we can't just have

[COPY] [PASTE] BOXES!!!!! < ie just typed out lol.
Because its clearly not that clear what the symbols mean to a great many people.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: DomA on 11:04 AM - 12/21/15
At least 5 times on this firmware the manager won't connect if I have my wireless NAV already connected. If I power off the NAV and then click the connect button again, it will connect fine.
Dom
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: mist4fun on 11:35 AM - 12/21/15
Do you use android kitkat?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 11:48 AM - 12/21/15
At least 5 times on this firmware the manager won't connect if I have my wireless NAV already connected. If I power off the NAV and then click the connect button again, it will connect fine.
Dom

We fix a fix for that. It'll be out with the next Beta release.

And mist asked the right question -- could you tell us if you are running Android 4.0 or 4.1?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: DomA on 01:45 PM - 12/21/15
This was using PC running windows10
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 04:53 PM - 12/21/15
This was using PC running windows10

What error are you getting?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: fung2189 on 03:30 AM - 12/22/15
hi guys i've been using xim4 for like 3months now, first i was using the old firmware 2014 there's no problem using it, then i installed the latest 20151120 firmware for black ops 3, now im having this random disconnection of m&k, happened to me like 5x now since last week.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: q3sebo on 07:39 AM - 12/22/15
hi guys i've been using xim4 for like 3months now, first i was using the old firmware 2014 there's no problem using it, then i installed the latest 20151120 firmware for black ops 3, now im having this random disconnection of m&k, happened to me like 5x now since last week.

As i said before in my posts - same here. I downgraded back to 112014 and i played whole weekend without single dc. I really think it is fw related instead of cable related and i will stay on 112014 and i recomend anyone who has issues on 2015 to downgrade as well and check if problem is solved or not. For me it worked just fine.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Souljazz on 12:04 PM - 12/22/15
Is not re cognizant every time..probably a bug
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 12:05 PM - 12/22/15
hi guys i've been using xim4 for like 3months now, first i was using the old firmware 2014 there's no problem using it, then i installed the latest 20151120 firmware for black ops 3, now im having this random disconnection of m&k, happened to me like 5x now since last week.

As i said before in my posts - same here. I downgraded back to 112014 and i played whole weekend without single dc. I really think it is fw related instead of cable related and i will stay on 112014 and i recomend anyone who has issues on 2015 to downgrade as well and check if problem is solved or not. For me it worked just fine.

We need to get to the bottom of this one.

When you say you m&k stop working, do you see any other type of error message or light sequence on your XIM4 that occurs? Do you see a controller disconnect message at all? Anything out of the ordinary other than your m&k stop working?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Xorag2190 on 04:46 PM - 12/22/15
Hi all. I posted a while back that I had been getting stuck keys on the latest firmware. this still happens once or twice per halo 5 round. fairly easy to fix by tapping the stuck key again. I only noticed this with directional keys such as wasd or shift. let me know if anyone else has seen this and if I can contribute to the tshooting.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: fung2189 on 09:44 AM - 12/23/15
hi guys i've been using xim4 for like 3months now, first i was using the old firmware 2014 there's no problem using it, then i installed the latest 20151120 firmware for black ops 3, now im having this random disconnection of m&k, happened to me like 5x now since last week.

As i said before in my posts - same here. I downgraded back to 112014 and i played whole weekend without single dc. I really think it is fw related instead of cable related and i will stay on 112014 and i recomend anyone who has issues on 2015 to downgrade as well and check if problem is solved or not. For me it worked just fine.

We need to get to the bottom of this one.

When you say you m&k stop working, do you see any other type of error message or light sequence on your XIM4 that occurs? Do you see a controller disconnect message at all? Anything out of the ordinary other than your m&k stop working?

no controller disconnection message but the xim4 will start to blink in different colors, so i have to re-plug it again to reset the xim4

Hi all. I posted a while back that I had been getting stuck keys on the latest firmware. this still happens once or twice per halo 5 round. fairly easy to fix by tapping the stuck key again. I only noticed this with directional keys such as wasd or shift. let me know if anyone else has seen this and if I can contribute to the tshooting.

and also this one also happened to me twice since changing to 2015 firmware, 1 is the directional getting stuck then another one is my left click (trigger key) stuck
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 01:13 PM - 12/23/15
no controller disconnection message but the xim4 will start to blink in different colors, so i have to re-plug it again to reset the xim4

This is very important -- which colors exactly is it flashing.

20151120 is less tolerant to misbehaving peripherals than prior builds. Meaning, it could be that your peripherals are still erroring with the older build you are using but it is hiding it.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: DrLupo on 02:54 PM - 12/23/15
Is it possible to do variable sensitivity profiles on Joysticks?

Example: I plug an Xbox One controller into port 2, as well as one in port 3. When ADSing with left trigger, I'd like the right stick sensitivity to drop.

Is this possible?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: fung2189 on 05:15 PM - 12/23/15
no controller disconnection message but the xim4 will start to blink in different colors, so i have to re-plug it again to reset the xim4

This is very important -- which colors exactly is it flashing.

20151120 is less tolerant to misbehaving peripherals than prior builds. Meaning, it could be that your peripherals are still erroring with the older build you are using but it is hiding it.

i'll take note of the colors when it happens
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: Pyro2577 on 10:18 PM - 12/23/15
PS4 rest mode continues to keep it's ports powered for charging devices.

Thanks OBsIV, i was asking because in the previous builds Xim4 would not turn back on and stay off.

Preferred option is to have it stay off.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 10:53 PM - 12/23/15
Is it possible to do variable sensitivity profiles on Joysticks?

Example: I plug an Xbox One controller into port 2, as well as one in port 3. When ADSing with left trigger, I'd like the right stick sensitivity to drop.

Is this possible?

Unfortunately, that's not an option at this time.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: abc123 on 12:07 PM - 01/01/16
my 3.5mm Xbox One controller turns on by itself now...it still vibrates then i don't do anything and it is on
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 12:28 PM - 01/01/16
my 3.5mm Xbox One controller turns on by itself now...it still vibrates then i don't do anything and it is on

Turns off? You mean in the middle of its use?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: mist4fun on 12:37 PM - 01/01/16
my 3.5mm Xbox One controller turns on by itself now...it still vibrates then i don't do anything and it is on

This is by design, since 1120 I think?
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 12:39 PM - 01/01/16
Oh I'm sorry, I misread that as turns "off". Yes, that was fixed.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: abc123 on 07:24 PM - 01/04/16
Oh I'm sorry, I misread that as turns "off". Yes, that was fixed.

awesome! can i recommend that you remove the vibrate?  doesn't really seem worth it to vibrate when no action is needed
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: infuma on 09:05 AM - 02/26/16
Hi all, I cant seem to find the firmware for 20151120 and the XIM4 manager fot 20151120.
Title: Re: XIM4 Firmware 20151120 (Feedback)
Post by: OBsIV on 10:21 AM - 02/26/16
Welcome to the community. If you are upgrading, we advise going to our latest.

The latest build is 20160214 – please follow the installation and pairing (or re-pairing) instructions in each thread below.
 
20160214 Firmware: http://xim4.com/community/index.php?topic=45301.0
20160214 Manager: http://xim4.com/community/index.php?topic=45302.0