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Title: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: RML on 03:45 PM - 04/19/15
So, why try an advanced setup? Here are some of the benefits you will enjoy with my Destiny setup that you don't have with a basic ST. This isn't any fault of XIM4, Destiny just has a poor look mechanic and a low turn speed cap.

- Faster movement and more responsive controls while Running or operating a Sparrow.
- Configuration specific Ballistic curves, created just for Destiny.
- Ability to Summon your vehicle, Mount your vehicle, and load Vehicle Configuration with a single button Press!
- Ability to Farm and revive without holding a button down.
- Ability to activate SUPER, Heavy Weapon or go to Orbit with a single button Press.

Sound Good? Well, let's get started shall we.   ;)


Please Note: You must create Settings (Sub Configs) in the following order for this to work properly. You can also simply copy/paste my entire setup below and then modify the button layouts.
- Primary, HIP (already created)
- Sub, ADS (already created)
- Sub, Sprint (you create)
- Sub, Sparrow (you create)


Entire setup code:
Code: [Select]
>>> XIM4 [Destiny] START PASTE >>>
X4C: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:X4C
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<


1. Open up a brand new Destiny config (or copy over yours if your feeling Bawse)
2. Click the edit button at the top left to enter the config for editing.
3. Click on the 3 small dots to the right of the configs color block to open the drop down.
4. Paste the code IN ITS ENTIRETY! To ensure you copy the entire code click on the word "Select" above the code. This will highlight everything that must be copied.
5. Enjoy!


IMPORTANT!! Some of my setup will not work properly without following my instructions for mouse settings within LGS. All settings and configs were created on the latest GOLD firmware and manager using 4000 DPI and 500 polling rate. I've attached a link near the bottom of this post for a DPI calculator, if needed.


HIP:
This Ballistic was originally created for Running, but I really like it for HIP instead (Thanks mist4fun).
Code: [Select]
>>> XIM4 [Mouse Ballistics] START PASTE >>>
X4MB:AAAAGgA0AC4AMAAwAC4AMgAwADEANgAwADQAMAA1AA0aJzRBTlxreoyescjIyMjIyMjI:X4MB
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<
UPDATE: Removed 500 boost and lowered sens to 36.
(http://i.imgur.com/ZV0UT9d.png)


ADS:
I use a Tracking curve to help combat Aim Assist and stay on target.
UPDATE: Changed curve and Lowered sens to 14.5
Code: [Select]
>>> XIM4 [Mouse Ballistics] START PASTE >>>
X4MB:AAAAGgA0AC4AMAAwAC4AMgAwADEANgAwADQAMAA1ABAhMUJQX26AnMjIyMjIyMjIyMjI:X4MB
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<
(http://i.imgur.com/ZR7foUh.png)
Please ignore the sens values in the pic, as I also use this curve for several other games, which is why it says BF1.


SPRINT:
Code: [Select]
>>> XIM4 [Mouse Ballistics] START PASTE >>>
X4MB:AAAAGgA0AC4AMAAwAC4AMgAwADEANgAwADQAMAA1ABQpPlZhaG92fYOKkZifpqyzusHI:X4MB
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<
UPDATE: Lowered Sprint Sens to 60
(http://i.imgur.com/OXYDPmS.png)
I assign this config to the Nav J9 button (Left Bumper) I DONOT use toggle for this config which means that the config is only active while the button is held down. IMO, Toggle doesn't work well for this config and is a frustrating endeavor (try it if you don't believe me). I also added a 200ms delay, this eliminates a slight jitter that was occasionally felt when Activating the config due to the difference in settings from HIP (smoother transition). I modified YX value and added 1000 Boost. This adds a little more movement to the X axis (horizontal movement) and makes turning feel a little more responsive. I also bind Turn Assist to Kpad3, this can seem strange at first but it's the only way to achieve MAX turn speed and hold it. It adds to gameplay and IMO, makes running and vehicles more enjoyable once you get used to it.


SPARROW
I use the same curve as running. I use Toggle behavior for this config and use LGS settings in order to activate it (I'll explain in a link later)
Code: [Select]
>>> XIM4 [Mouse Ballistics] START PASTE >>>
X4MB:AAAAGgA0AC4AMAAwAC4AMgAwADEANgAwADQAMAA1ABQpPlZhaG92fYOKkZifpqyzusHI:X4MB
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

UPDATE: Lowered sens to 60
(http://i.imgur.com/R4F38ZV.png)
Once again, I adjusted YX ratio and added Boost and bound Turn Assist to Kpad3.

Thanks to the NEW "Config Deactivation" keys that OBsIV created for ADS toggle, we can now easily dismount the Sparrow and deactivate the Sparrow config, without help from LGS. All you need to do is assign a deactivation key, then assign the same key to the reload button under secondary button bindings.


Please note that I'm using "Default" button layout, in game. If you also use the G502 and Nav and would like to match my setup simply copy/paste. These button layouts are for Xbox One, however, I believe they will work for PS4 if you switch your Triggers and Bumpers. I'm not 100% on that, but it should work!
HIP:
Code: [Select]
>>> XIM4 [Buttons] START PASTE >>>
X4BT:AAAAGgA0AC4AMAAwAC4AMgAwADEANgAwADQAMAA1QAGgEIBAgQFrCGsEQAJACIEQoAiAAYACgAiABIEgQBCBBAAAAAAAAAAAoASgBAAAAABsAWwCAAAAAAAAAAAAAGuAAAA=:X4BT
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

SPARROW
Code: [Select]
>>> XIM4 [Buttons] START PASTE >>>
X4BT:AAAAGgA0AC4AMAAwAC4AMgAwADEANgAwADQAMAA1QAGgEIBAAABAAoEBAABACIEQoAiAAYACgAiABIEgQBCBBAAAAAAAAAAAoASgBAAAAABsAWwCAAAAAAAAAAAAAGuAAAA=:X4BT
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<


Here's the LGS settings I spoke of earlier for macros.

Button Layout:
(https://i.imgur.com/CLPAOcY.jpg)


Heavy Weapon:
(https://i.imgur.com/SVmpIkH.jpg)


Sparrow:
(https://i.imgur.com/XCwEjzS.jpg)


Orbit: - UPDATE: Should be 9 sec.
(https://i.imgur.com/6A99AQH.jpg)


Revive/Farming - UPDATE: Should be 4 sec.
(https://i.imgur.com/jr9zn5w.jpg)



Here's a link you can use to calculate DPI and Sensitivity settings.
http://www.csgosetup.com/dpi-calculator/


All of my Peripherals and settings are listed in my signature.


Keep an eye on the thread below if you need help with Advanced Settings.
Advanced Settings "How to Guides"
http://xim4.com/community/index.php?topic=41264.msg510100#msg510100


Here's a video to help explain LGS settings and applying them to manager.
http://www.youtube.com/v/PlxpCgD853c&hd=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlxpCgD853c&feature=youtu.be



LASTLY, here's some footage of everything in motion. Thanks goes to R3MIX for taking the time here to show us his nice mixing skills.

http://www.youtube.com/v/LHmo0yV-DBM&hd=1

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LHmo0yV-DBM


And that concludes my Advanced (AKA "SUPER" ANAL) setup, Enjoy!


Peace!  :)





Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup
Post by: R3MiX on 07:42 AM - 04/21/15
Interesting. Gonna give this a go tonight.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup
Post by: RML on 10:08 AM - 04/21/15
Interesting. Gonna give this a go tonight.

Just a heads up man, I hadn't played Destiny in awhile and I rushed this a little. My ANALITY kicked in last night and I've improved my setup quite a bit. I will be updating this setup either tonight or tmw. I think people will really enjoy some things I've simplified and done with this.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup
Post by: pdogg6 on 11:54 AM - 04/21/15
Interesting...how is this different than the one in the Library?  I have no complaints about stock/curves I was using but wondering if something could be done to enhance my experience.  The thing that I ignore that apparently I've been told has negative effects is the Max turn speed indicator.  As soon as I move my mouse the warning is initiated. LOL.  That's even moving my mouse slowly.  I can't think of my sensitivity off the top of my head but I think it's more.  I'll have to find out and see what the differences are.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup
Post by: R3MiX on 12:46 PM - 04/21/15
Looking forward to your tweaks.  The one that got me scratching my head is how you have your left and right buttons on the mouse for looking L/R and have the snipe button for shooting.  I just can't get pass the thought of even trying that. It'll just feel so awkward. LOL.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup
Post by: RML on 02:28 PM - 04/21/15
Looking forward to your tweaks.  The one that got me scratching my head is how you have your left and right buttons on the mouse for looking L/R and have the snipe button for shooting.  I just can't get pass the thought of even trying that. It'll just feel so awkward. LOL.

Ha,ha ... yeah it's really difficult for a Nav user to find a way of utilizing right stick potential. It would be really nice to have Turn Assist back. That would simplify things quite a bit! Which buttons you use are of course up to you. I have actually changed that layout a little as well. I will post my entire button layout and crap when I get time and try to explain my craziness. It's really just all about helping newer members understand all the tools, how to use them and get people thinking and sharing ideas.

Interesting...how is this different than the one in the Library?

The ballistics are the same, this is just a more in depth look at my setup. As mentioned earlier, to help newer members and to get people thinking.

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup
Post by: RML on 07:45 PM - 04/23/15
Updated, now I'm getting drunk! Ugh... Enjoy!  :-*
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 4/23/15)
Post by: R3MiX on 04:53 PM - 05/01/15
Dude I kufn love this. Improved my running around corners dramatically !! Thank you RML.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 4/23/15)
Post by: Megatf on 07:17 PM - 05/01/15
I registered this account to say thank you.  Youre setup has gotten me multiple 3-5+ kdrs in iron banner today against premades sometimes.


I dropped my dpi to 8000, polling to 1000 on my g502 and just flat out copied your setup. We myst be using a similar mousepad because it works perfect for me.

I have been lost and so frustrated with destiny and the xim(xim is great but it was terrible out the box with destiny unlike cod) i was about to shelf it until i found this

This really is great
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 4/23/15)
Post by: Mjölnir on 07:37 AM - 05/03/15
Thanks alot, I'm a ximer for many years now and never took a look to ballistic curves, seemed to be difficult to understand, but now it's more clear. I'm gonna try yours for Destiny and Hardline and see what happens :) I've learned a lot.

Just a question, how do you launch the super with ONE button ? Is it thanks to bind your mouse with macro ?

And I was totally in fog concerning sub-configs, and thanks to you I think I understood how it works and possibilities you get with.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 4/23/15)
Post by: RML on 04:29 PM - 05/03/15
Dude I kufn love this. Improved my running around corners dramatically !! Thank you RML.

That's what it's all about man, I'm glad it improved your experience!



I registered this account to say thank you.  Youre setup has gotten me multiple 3-5+ kdrs in iron banner today against premades sometimes.


I dropped my dpi to 8000, polling to 1000 on my g502 and just flat out copied your setup. We myst be using a similar mousepad because it works perfect for me.

I have been lost and so frustrated with destiny and the xim(xim is great but it was terrible out the box with destiny unlike cod) i was about to shelf it until i found this

This really is great

I appreciate the fact that you registered just to acknowledge my post. I put a lot of effort into writing this up, it's nice to know it helped you. That's why I did it man (well everything except the little button pics, that was my daughter lol ... she had a blast though). I remember my struggles coming into XIM, I'm always happy to help a fellow Ximmer out.




Thanks alot, I'm a ximer for many years now and never took a look to ballistic curves, seemed to be difficult to understand, but now it's more clear. I'm gonna try yours for Destiny and Hardline and see what happens :) I've learned a lot.

Just a question, how do you launch the super with ONE button ? Is it thanks to bind your mouse with macro ?

And I was totally in fog concerning sub-configs, and thanks to you I think I understood how it works and possibilities you get with.

Like I said, I'm happy to help a brother out.

- Concerning One button SUPER -
XIM manager > Destiny Config > HIP > Buttons > Secondary buttons
(http://i.imgur.com/81uoTyp.png)

Then just assign LB and RB to the same button.
(http://i.imgur.com/G1Cegz8.png)


Now, guess what Gents? My Anality just got a little more ANAL Lol...
I got tired of holding down Y to go to Orbit and for switching to the Heavy weapon so I modified my setup a little  ::)

I really wasn't utilizing Long Range Snipe for this game very much so I removed it and added the Heavy weapon and Orbit buttons. I also was getting a little frustrated with using the MB (scroll button) for SUPER because I was inadvertently bumping right or left scroll once in a while (PANIC MOMENTS, haha) which would put me in Vehicle config. UGH... So I switched up the button layout a little bit and TBH I like it ALOT better now. I already updated the Button codes to match the layouts pictured. So just copy/paste if you're interested.

Enjoy!  ;)



Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: MonkeyStalker on 06:26 AM - 05/04/15
@#$% another monster informative thread by probably the best poster on this site.  You guys need to thank your lucky stars this guy is here for these tid bits of gold.

Although if I had to go through that much to play that @#$% game I think I would take two chop sticks to my eye sockets.  Ugh...

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: Mjölnir on 06:31 AM - 05/04/15
Thanks RML it's clear now, I never thought to bind two pad buttons with the same mouse/keyboard button, it's very useful. And yep I noticed you have updated your config. True is that long range never happens in this game, in this way you're even more effective ;D and your super button is also more controlled by binding like that, nice job ! I'm gonna make a SUPER button and a config for vehicules, so impatient to be at home.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: RML on 08:19 AM - 05/04/15
@#$% another monster informative thread by probably the best poster on this site.  You guys need to thank your lucky stars this guy is here for these tid bits of gold.

Although if I had to go through that much to play that @#$% game I think I would take two chop sticks to my eye sockets.  Ugh...

Lol ... Destiny's a nice change of pace. My problem is, if there's a way to improve my gaming experience I'm going to do it. That's what brought me to XIM in the first place. I'm pretty anal about everything in life that way TBH. I'm my own worst enemy sometimes, no doubt!

As far as work goes, I've done the majority of that for you guys. I would think this setup could be mimicked in less then 30mins. just a lot of Copy/Paste and a little tweaking if you use a different mouse.

XIM has made console gaming enjoyable for me. I honestly wouldn't be gaming if it weren't for XIM. So, I have no qualms about sharing my knowledge and excitement about their product. Anything I can do to help XIM or XIM members is always a pleasure and, in a way, it's my way of giving back and saying Thank You!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: R3MiX on 06:15 PM - 05/12/15
RML setup has improved my sniping. The curves are just godsend.  Here is a montage of my previous games a couple days ago. Thanks again RML !!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LHmo0yV-DBM


http://www.youtube.com/v/LHmo0yV-DBM&hd=1
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: BuryUrDad on 01:25 AM - 05/13/15
Thank you RML for your settings! Is there any way to recharge the Nav with a wall charger? And does anyone found a solution for faster strafing in Destiny (moving left and right)?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: R3MiX on 06:30 AM - 05/13/15
Thank you RML for your settings! Is there any way to recharge the Nav with a wall charger? And does anyone found a solution for faster strafing in Destiny (moving left and right)?
I find strafing to be useless in this game because of the weapons aim assist and hitboxes.  I still strafe, don't get me wrong but it just doesn't help out significantly IMO unlike other games. Maybe it's just me or lag but I've had a few times where I'm strafing like a mad man and I end up the one being killed.

To answer your question, I read that using  keypads on a keyboard is better for strafing than an analog stick.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: RML on 07:17 AM - 05/13/15
Thank you RML for your settings! Is there any way to recharge the Nav with a wall charger? And does anyone found a solution for faster strafing in Destiny (moving left and right)?

I bought several NAV's and use this charging dock for them, I've had it for a few years, no issues.

http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Move-Charging-Station-3/dp/B003O6G114/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1431522669&sr=8-1&keywords=sony+navigation+controller+charging+station

It's funny that you mention straffing. I made another change to my setup recently but just haven't had the time to update or add it here. You can however improve the responsiveness of the NAV by decreasing the deadzone of the joystick. I personally like around 5000 (default is 7500 I believe). Just be careful, if you decrease it too much you'll eliminate the deadzone and your characters may start walking around the map on their own.  ;)

XIM Manager > Destiny > HIP > Joystick


Nice Video R3MiX, the beginning cracked me up! Love that movie! Some great gameplay as well.  :)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: BuryUrDad on 10:39 AM - 05/13/15
Thanks RML. Yes, I read that tip from Obsiv with lowering the joystick deadzone, works better. I am using again my keyboard and  the strafing isn't fast in destiny could really be faster.
I am using the Nav now beside my keyboard and mouse for the menus, which works pretty well.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: R3MiX on 06:00 PM - 05/13/15
Didn't know about that dead zone adjustment on the manager. Gonna give that a try. God I love this thread ! Learn something new every time.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: Enz0wn on 01:38 PM - 05/18/15
Hey RML, thanks for your settings. The new RC that was released no longer supports the copy/paste format for ballistic curves that you have posted. Would it be possible to for you to update the thread with the new format copies of your curves? Thanks!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: RML on 06:40 PM - 05/18/15
I won't be upgrading till IOS is fixed. But I will when I can  ;)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: Enz0wn on 06:47 PM - 05/18/15
I won't be upgrading till IOS is fixed. But I will when I can  ;)

Do you mean when OBS reuploads the new RC that he just removed?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: RML on 07:08 PM - 05/18/15
Yes, I may not use it till it supports wireless NAV and IOS.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: Enz0wn on 07:16 PM - 05/18/15
Yes, I may not use it till it supports wireless NAV and IOS.

I know this would be a pain, but is there any way you could upload the values at each interval of the HIP and ADS curves? Those are the only two I want, and I'm unsure if iOS and NAV support will be here any time soon. Your settings are fantastic and it's driving me crazy not having those ballistic curves exactly right!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: RML on 09:13 PM - 05/18/15
Sry man, I would lose all my configs if I switched back. I already did that once today, I may lose it if I have to go through that again before the new build is sure to work. I would have to switch builds, make new configs and ballistics then switch back and repeat, ugh....

Just try to recreate them in manager. I will update everything once the new firmware is confirmed stable.

 :(

Ahh... just got what you meant, I will give you the values tmw. Having fun with Witcher right now.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: RML on 07:53 AM - 05/19/15
Here you go man, from left to right.

HIP - 0,6.5,13,19.5,26,32.5,39,46,53.5,61,70,79,88.5,100 to the end.

ADS - 0,7.5,15.5,23.5,31.5,39,45.5,50.5,55.5,60.5,65.5,70.5,75.5,80.5,85.5,90.5,95.5,100 to the end.

Have fun with HOW  :)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: Enz0wn on 12:45 PM - 05/19/15
Here you go man, from left to right.

HIP - 0,6.5,13,19.5,26,32.5,39,46,53.5,61,70,79,88.5,100 to the end.

ADS - 0,7.5,15.5,23.5,31.5,39,45.5,50.5,55.5,60.5,65.5,70.5,75.5,80.5,85.5,90.5,95.5,100 to the end.

Have fun with HOW  :)

That's exactly what I wanted! I think you didn't understand what I was asking for, I guess I wasn't explaining it well. THANK YOU!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: strike2wce on 06:38 AM - 05/28/15
Uggggh.  Even with your settings, I hate the slow turning in Destiny. :(

Just a general question though: I see you're using an 8,000 DPI mouse.  I'm sitting here using a 5,600 DPI Razer Naga 2012.  Does a higher DPI mouse make a big difference?  I assume it would just require less movement of the mouse to reach the turn limit in the game, correct?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: RML on 06:51 AM - 05/28/15
Uggggh.  Even with your settings, I hate the slow turning in Destiny. :(

Just a general question though: I see you're using an 8,000 DPI mouse.  I'm sitting here using a 5,600 DPI Razer Naga 2012.  Does a higher DPI mouse make a big difference?  I assume it would just require less movement of the mouse to reach the turn limit in the game, correct?

5,600 DPI is sufficient, use the dpi calculator in the OP to match my settings (if you wish) by adjusting your sensitivity. I also use a hard mouse pad, my experience is that you need a little higher sensitivity with soft mouse pads, maybe 5-10. Also, make sure you're moving your mouse no faster then 4-6 inches per second, lightning reflexes aren't going to work with this game. Slower consistent swipes work best for Destiny's look mechanic and XIM in general for that matter.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: joekitch on 05:31 PM - 05/31/15
the autoaim completely changing your sensitivity when near a target is a huge hassle in destiny, i'm trying to overcome that at the moment
thanks for the unique ballistics curve for ADS, i never would have thought to use that

on of these days i'll set up custom running and vehicle curves but i'm too lazy

.....also has anyone else noticed the xim4 acting badly since the house of wolves release? i occasionally lose control and my character will just spin in place, i have to completely reset the xim4 and re-plug my KBM to make it work
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: Beezles on 06:03 PM - 05/31/15
No problems on my end. Have you tried another controller to see if the joystick is acting up?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: RML on 08:24 AM - 06/01/15
the autoaim completely changing your sensitivity when near a target is a huge hassle in destiny, i'm trying to overcome that at the moment
thanks for the unique ballistics curve for ADS, i never would have thought to use that

on of these days i'll set up custom running and vehicle curves but i'm too lazy

.....also has anyone else noticed the xim4 acting badly since the house of wolves release? i occasionally lose control and my character will just spin in place, i have to completely reset the xim4 and re-plug my KBM to make it work

As far as the Aim assist goes, Yes, it's pretty severe at times within close quarters. It's pretty much like that with every game using aim assist, it's just that Destiny has higher then (what I would call) normal aim assist applied to this game. You can combat this more by adjusting my ADS curve. But it will make mid to long range aiming more difficult. If you increase my curve though and then add another config to the fire button it could help. For example, copy your ADS config but use no curve and a lower sensitivity and activate it with left click. This can help you stay on targets when using higher sensitivities while in ADS. It works by allowing you to aggressively follow the target and then slowing your aim when you fire. This method really only works for continuous fire though, so it's pretty much a No Go with snipers and hand cannons.

As far as the "acting badly" goes, I believe what you're experiencing is increased LAG. I've noticed it to lately. I believe the reason why is two fold.
- Possibly less player base
- More game modes, The player base is spread out all over the place so we're probably getting paired with other gamers that, maybe, wasn't the case a while back. The new DLC obviously would impact the player base we have to chose from, get my drift?  ;)

Ok, so that's my "acting badly" Lol..

After reading your response again, I believe your issue sounds like a possible wire short. I've never experienced this with XIM4. But back in the day of XIME I had that problem. Turned out to be the wire connecting my XIME to the console had a short. What was happening to me was the short would cause the XIM to lose communication for a split second which caused my NAV and mouse to drop out. So my character would just spin whatever direction I was heading when the communication dropped.

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: IceZ on 09:58 AM - 06/01/15
Hey Guys new user here got the XIM specifically for Destiny.  I am really interested in using these settings but I cannot figure out how to adjust the ballistic curves or copy the code from these forums into the app on my phone.  I tried using just the other settings with the default curve and it doesn't feel right.

Mainly looking to use the XIM for PVP'ing as I am awful with a controller.

P.s. I am using it with the Logitech G502 mouse that everyone seems to recommend.  Polling set to 1000 and DPI to max.

Any help would be great.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: RML on 01:35 PM - 06/01/15
^  What XIM4 firmware are you running and what phone are you using?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: IceZ on 02:06 PM - 06/01/15
^  What XIM4 firmware are you running and what phone are you using?

I will have to check the firmware when I get home.  But the phone is a Galaxy S4.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: RML on 02:14 PM - 06/01/15
Ok, I'm sure there are several people with that phone around that could help if needed. If you're using the latest firmware and manager, which I believe to be 5/25/15, then it won't work with any of the posted curves right now in the forum. They changed the code with the latest build in order to add some new features. My curves are setup with the 2/12/15 firmware and manager.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: IceZ on 01:32 PM - 06/02/15
Ok, I'm sure there are several people with that phone around that could help if needed. If you're using the latest firmware and manager, which I believe to be 5/25/15, then it won't work with any of the posted curves right now in the forum. They changed the code with the latest build in order to add some new features. My curves are setup with the 2/12/15 firmware and manager.

So I am on

Manager Version: 4.00.20141114
Firmware Version: 4.00.20141114
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: bane316 on 07:31 PM - 06/02/15
First of all thank you for your helpful post. I'm a new Xim4 user (for mainly for Destiny) and I was lost about how to configure my Xim for this game. I have 1 question. In you initial post you said that we must  have a keyboard plugged in the XIM. I want to use the PS NAV controller. So how do I setup my Xim if I have the keyboard in place of the PS NAV controller?

Thank in advance!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: RML on 09:29 PM - 06/02/15

So I am on

Manager Version: 4.00.20141114
Firmware Version: 4.00.20141114

Ok, cool, so the curves will work for you. Make sure you click on the "select" box above the code. That should highlight everything that you need to copy/paste.

If you're having other problems, such as how to copy/paste with your particular phone, then let us know and maybe someone here can help further.

First of all thank you for your helpful post. I'm a new Xim4 user (for mainly for Destiny) and I was lost about how to configure my Xim for this game. I have 1 question. In you initial post you said that we must  have a keyboard plugged in the XIM. I want to use the PS NAV controller. So how do I setup my Xim if I have the keyboard in place of the PS NAV controller?

Thank in advance!

First of all, you're welcome.  :)

If you're using your NAV wired then you will need a usb hub. Simply plug your NAV and KB into the hub and then plug the hub into slot TWO of the XIM4. I would recommend this method for all NAV users as KB are very useful for changing your game configs (primary's). They are also very useful for setting up multi-key functions like I did with Destiny.

If you're using your NAV Wirelessly. Once the NAV is paired with your XIM4, unplug the XIM4 from your console, then plug the KB into slot TWO and plug the XIM4 back into the console. Done!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: shaihulud on 11:13 PM - 06/02/15
Thanks RML! This is working great except maybe it's just me but when I am using a sniper secondary it is very difficult to move the mouse as the target is moving. I know hitting a moving target is difficult but I think it's the most difficult I've experienced in a shooter. I was wondering if I should try to up the sensitivity. How do you fare while using a sniper in Destiny? I use a shortgaze scope. Thanks.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: RML on 06:00 AM - 06/03/15
^ It's not just you.  ;)

As others have stated it's the INSANE amount of aim assist applied to this games look mechanic. Your question got me thinking though. Maybe a setup like I suggested a few post back (for another member who was struggling with aim assist) would actually work well for you too. I described how to assign a sub-config to the fire button that would slow your sensitivity down so that you don't over shoot your target. I know this is the opposite of what you're looking for. But, what I'm thinking here is, that if you up your sensitivity enough to help track targets while sniping then your sensitivity may be a little too high while using other guns, like auto rifles. So, this would (in theory) allow you to use a higher sensitivity while sniping without constantly over shooting targets while not sniping.

Your only other options that I can think of are:
- Raise the sens and just deal with it and try to adapt to a possible over shooting issue with other weapons.
- Make another Primary config. just for the sniper. Then you would be able to use a higher sens with snipers without affecting your other guns. Of course this means you would have to have a config activation key "at the ready" because you would be switching between configs every time you use a sniper rifle. As a NAV user this method is difficult for me, but if you use a keyboard you should have plenty of buttons to spare.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: Loki on 06:16 AM - 06/03/15
You have caught my attention, what hub do you recommend and also, what are some useful things I could do with a keyboard setup? My current setup is

Sony Nav
G502 (I also have the G602 and G700)



So I am on

Manager Version: 4.00.20141114
Firmware Version: 4.00.20141114

Ok, cool, so the curves will work for you. Make sure you click on the "select" box above the code. That should highlight everything that you need to copy/paste.

If you're having other problems, such as how to copy/paste with your particular phone, then let us know and maybe someone here can help further.

First of all thank you for your helpful post. I'm a new Xim4 user (for mainly for Destiny) and I was lost about how to configure my Xim for this game. I have 1 question. In you initial post you said that we must  have a keyboard plugged in the XIM. I want to use the PS NAV controller. So how do I setup my Xim if I have the keyboard in place of the PS NAV controller?

Thank in advance!

First of all, you're welcome.  :)

If you're using your NAV wired then you will need a usb hub. Simply plug your NAV and KB into the hub and then plug the hub into slot TWO of the XIM4. I would recommend this method for all NAV users as KB are very useful for changing your game configs (primary's). They are also very useful for setting up multi-key functions like I did with Destiny.

If you're using your NAV Wirelessly. Once the NAV is paired with your XIM4, unplug the XIM4 from your console, then plug the KB into slot TWO and plug the XIM4 back into the console. Done!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: RML on 07:19 AM - 06/03/15
^ I personally use the KB for changing and cycling Primary configs. so I don't have to waste buttons on my NAV or mouse. I also use it for multi-key functions (as previously stated). While I don't physically have to push a button on the KB to perform this task. I believe it needs to be connected to the XIM4 so that it can recognize certain keystrokes that I would assign to my mouse in LGS.

I've used this usb hub for several years now without a hitch - http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-USB-2-0-4-Port-Ultra-Mini/dp/B000Q8UAWY/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1433338251&sr=1-2&keywords=belkin+usb+hub

Others like to use Powered usb hubs, because their peripherals draw a lot of power that can cause communication drops. A powered hub can resolve that issue. I can't recommend one but I know there are several threads on the subject if you search for "Usb hub" or "powered usb hub".

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: RML on 07:19 AM - 06/03/15
FYI, I updated the OP with ballistic codes for both "Old Firmware" and "New Firmware."
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: IceZ on 08:40 AM - 06/03/15


So I am on

Manager Version: 4.00.20141114
Firmware Version: 4.00.20141114


Ok, cool, so the curves will work for you. Make sure you click on the "select" box above the code. That should highlight everything that you need to copy/paste.

If you're having other problems, such as how to copy/paste with your particular phone, then let us know and maybe someone here can help further.

Thank you RML.  I will need to take a look tonight but I didn't see any place to paste code within the app.


Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: joekitch on 09:04 AM - 06/03/15
i didnt think to just make the curve more aggressive for ADS to combat the aim assist slow-on-target, i'll give that a shot, since i can aim just fine at long ranges right now and i barely move my mouse then anyway

another issue; what do you guys use for switching from xim4 input back to PC input? i use xim4 commander and a belkin transfer cable currently but after some hours of playing it'll stop working and i have to force kill the xim commander because it crashes my windows explorer along with itself, in addition to unplugging and re plugging my xim4 and controller, not good
HOWEVER i tried using a usb switching hub to swap video and usb inputs but sometimes when i switch, the xim4 goes brain dead (solid white light instead of a pulsing red as normal)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: RML on 10:08 AM - 06/03/15
^ That's probably a question you would want to ask in the support section. I'm sure you would get more responses there. I currently do not use Commander. 
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 5/03/15)
Post by: mist4fun on 11:18 AM - 06/03/15
i didnt think to just make the curve more aggressive for ADS to combat the aim assist slow-on-target, i'll give that a shot, since i can aim just fine at long ranges right now and i barely move my mouse then anyway

another issue; what do you guys use for switching from xim4 input back to PC input? i use xim4 commander and a belkin transfer cable currently but after some hours of playing it'll stop working and i have to force kill the xim commander because it crashes my windows explorer along with itself, in addition to unplugging and re plugging my xim4 and controller, not good
HOWEVER i tried using a usb switching hub to swap video and usb inputs but sometimes when i switch, the xim4 goes brain dead (solid white light instead of a pulsing red as normal)

Both of these are known issues actually and there are no solutions to fix them. XIM4 doesn't like some usb switches and Commander is known to have issues like these as it's still in Alpha.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/03/15)
Post by: litex2x on 02:33 PM - 06/04/15
I tried out your setup for a few days and my old habits are just to in grained to get used to your setup. Using the bindings for right joystick and holding down for sprint was just very difficult for me to get used.

It did feel more natural and consistent. I might try it again and increase the sensitivity.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/03/15)
Post by: Twisterman360 on 07:20 PM - 06/04/15
Hello,

Thank you so much for putting your time into this. It has definitely helped improve the overall game play. I am still having a few issues that I am not quite sure how to address.

1) I am still having troubles turning around tight corners and around in general. I am finding I have to swipe my mouse pretty far to turn around completely even with your settings. I have turned up the sensitivity a bit from your default settings but it still seems too slow if someone comes behind you and you have to turn instantly. Do you have any methods to make turning feel more like COD or Counter Strike?

2) Can you elaborate on how to get the vehicle config to work properly? I can't seem to get it to stick properly.

Thanks,

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/03/15)
Post by: RML on 06:37 AM - 06/05/15
I tried out your setup for a few days and my old habits are just to in grained to get used to your setup. Using the bindings for right joystick and holding down for sprint was just very difficult for me to get used.

It did feel more natural and consistent. I might try it again and increase the sensitivity.

You should hold off until Turn Assist is released in a week or so. TA should help us significantly with Destiny, I will be updating the OP once the TA beta is out.



Hello,

Thank you so much for putting your time into this. It has definitely helped improve the overall game play. I am still having a few issues that I am not quite sure how to address.

1) I am still having troubles turning around tight corners and around in general. I am finding I have to swipe my mouse pretty far to turn around completely even with your settings. I have turned up the sensitivity a bit from your default settings but it still seems too slow if someone comes behind you and you have to turn instantly. Do you have any methods to make turning feel more like COD or Counter Strike?

2) Can you elaborate on how to get the vehicle config to work properly? I can't seem to get it to stick properly.

Thanks,



Hi,  You're welcome! :)

As far as turning goes, we all are having issues with this game Lol... I wish I had a better answer for you but the fact is Destiny's look mechanic is terrible, especially while running! My setup can help but it can't fix it entirely. When Turn Assists is released I believe it will help this game ALOT! Stay tuned to this thread and I will update when the TA beta comes out.

About the Vehicle Config. - What issues are you having exactly? Are you accidentally changing configs. or something else? I can't really go into detail about some of it as Multi-key functions are something we aren't allowed to discuss in this forum in depth. Based on your use of the word "stick" I'm assuming that you keep defaulting back to your primary config. "HIP". This can happen if you are using a Sub-Config and then press a button that activates another Sub-Config. I've been doing some testing the last couple days because I wasn't having this problem while others were. Here's what I've discovered and what I believe to be a work around for this issue.

http://xim4.com/community/index.php?topic=40458.0

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/03/15)
Post by: Ratha on 12:45 AM - 06/07/15
Hi RML , i have a question regarding the DPI of your setup. You are using a g502 mouse that has a native 12000 dpi but you have it on 8000 dpi. I remember Od1n and most other people saying that you would want the highest dpi that is native to the mouse sensor.
 Is is a personal preference or have you tried it on 12000dps ?   
And if someone would want to use your Destiny setup but with a 12000 dpi setting, how would that convert ?

Thank you for the effort of sharing your setup, it really feels better than what i used.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/03/15)
Post by: RML on 12:08 PM - 06/07/15
My personal preference is 8000. I have three reasons for this. It's what I'm used to, it's the max dpi of another mouse that I use (I don't want to chg. sensitivities when I chg. mice) and I've tried 12000 dpi. TBH it didn't feel noticeably better IMO. That being said, as you've stated, it's always suggested to go with your mouse's highest native dpi.

There's a link towards the bottom of my OP for the DPI convertor tool. I also explained how to use it  ;)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/03/15)
Post by: RexHydro on 08:11 PM - 06/07/15

And if someone would want to use your Destiny setup but with a 12000 dpi setting, how would that convert ?

You could also try this:

12000 / 8000 = 1.5

Then take the 8000 DPI sensitivity and divide by 1.5:

HIP / 1.5
ADS / 1.5
etc
(and round to two decimal places)

That works for me in BF4 when I tried out some setting from people using other dpi than me and it should be the same. (I tested it out quite a few times by changing my mouse dpi and it feels the same. At least for me.)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/03/15)
Post by: RML on 07:39 AM - 06/09/15
WARNING: As of 6/09/15, You must create Settings (Sub Configs) in the following order for this to work properly. This is an issue that hopefully will be resolved soon.
 
- Primary, HIP (already created)
- Sub, ADS (already created)
- Sub, Running (you create)
- Sub, Vehicle (you create)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/09/15)
Post by: patchm00 on 08:01 AM - 06/09/15
WARNING: As of 6/09/15, You must create Settings (Sub Configs) in the following order for this to work properly. This is an issue that hopefully will be resolved soon.
 
- Primary, HIP (already created)
- Sub, ADS (already created)
- Sub, Running (you create)
- Sub, Vehicle (you create)

Something change on 6/9 or are you just saying you figured this out on 6/9 :)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/09/15)
Post by: RML on 04:22 PM - 06/09/15
^ This is the way I was using it so I didn't realize there was an issue if they weren't in this order. Other's started having problems with putting vehicle before Running. In that situation if you accidentally pressed the button to activate your run settings then it would default you back to HIP when released. The same can happen with activating the vehicle settings while running but isn't as big of a deal as you're not stuck on your sparrow, your on foot.

Nothing was changed on 6/09 but hopefully something will change soon.  :)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/09/15)
Post by: Cloudz00x on 10:06 AM - 06/12/15
Hey RMl... first off great guide. I ditched my old config just to try yours. I wanted to ask for us diehard keyboard users... Would this setup still be functional if we just use a kb/mouse setup. I personally don't have a sony move navi.  If so how would we go about matching yours to ours?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/09/15)
Post by: redneckx on 10:23 AM - 06/12/15
Hey RMl... first off great guide. I ditched my old config just to try yours. I wanted to ask for us diehard keyboard users... Would this setup still be functional if we just use a kb/mouse setup. I personally don't have a sony move navi.  If so how would we go about matching yours to ours?


I use RML's setup with KB/Mouse. No problems at all. The helpful tidbits here are mostly in the curves, numbers, concepts, and mouse macros. The nav vs keyboard is minimal. You will just have to come up with some keys to map what he has mapped to the nav keys. Personally i love these settings (with a little of my own tweaking). Its a great place to start. I hate the Nav though :)

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/09/15)
Post by: RML on 09:03 AM - 06/13/15
Yeah, unless you're using the exact same peripherals as I am, then you won't experience how the game feels to me, 100%. This setup is just to help establish a base line, as redneckx pointed out.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/09/15)
Post by: anubisrich on 12:12 PM - 06/22/15
Just wanted to jump on and say thanks for this. Very useful, I have a 3600 DPI mouse and the calculator on the post seems to not work anymore so the sensitivities needed a bit of playing with. Saw mist recommend doing that anyway and it makes sense.

Can anyone help with the difference between boost and sensitivity? I presume boost is more the initial acceleration, I find higher boost for running and vehicles to be better.

The ADS balance is the most important thing. I haven't played PC FPS games for a while (started on Wolvenstein and Doom, finished - at quite a high standard - on Unreal Tournament, Quake and America's Army). I like to be able to flick between targets quickly while ADSing but you also want the precision for headshots (which is so much better with XIM).

Anyone still playing Destiny on here? I know it got a bit of a kicking early on but it is fun although I don't really know why. The movement just feels right you know and well, shooting stuff is shooting stuff. E3 was a big disappointment to me, I'll give SW Battlefront a go but I can tell it's going to be rubbish. CoD is out of the question til they go back to no exo suits. Cannot see what Fallout 4 will bring over Fallout 3 so might save myself a few weeks of my life. Then all other shooters are bringing out "open world" environments no doubt at the expense of making a solid shooter with good maps, balanced gameplay and good netcode.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/09/15)
Post by: R3MiX on 08:38 AM - 06/23/15
RML last time to told me to hold off on upgrading the firmware till AA is here. Is it safe to say now is a good time to upgrade?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/09/15)
Post by: RML on 01:48 PM - 06/23/15
RML last time to told me to hold off on upgrading the firmware till AA is here. Is it safe to say now is a good time to upgrade?

I updated the OP for the 06' firmware and Included Turn Assist for Run and Sparrow, also updated button mapping codes. Update at will, You will lose wireless Nav though.  :(

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/09/15)
Post by: RML on 03:03 PM - 06/23/15

Can anyone help with the difference between boost and sensitivity? I presume boost is more the initial acceleration, I find higher boost for running and vehicles to be better.


Boost alters the deadzone
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: Twisterman360 on 11:09 AM - 06/26/15
How do you find your profile works for sniping? You said that you changed the curve to combat aim assist but a lot of the people out there say you want high aim assist on snipers as it increases effective hit box size.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: TheLambeauHeap on 01:09 PM - 06/26/15
Thank you for this guide! I just got my Xim4 and used this guide to get my setup running.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: RML on 03:00 PM - 06/26/15
How do you find your profile works for sniping? You said that you changed the curve to combat aim assist but a lot of the people out there say you want high aim assist on snipers as it increases effective hit box size.

My personal opinion, a lot of people are wrong! Lol ... I'm JK man. Here's my take on it. I love to snipe, I originally had an added sniper sub config with this setup. I even had a demonstration video. I removed it for a few reasons. The way subs currently work it was causing too much confusion and I also didn't find myself needing a sniping config as much with this game as with a game like BF per say. Here are the settings I used for Sniping with this game, if you're interested.

I used the same ballistic as ADS. Using the ADS trans, I lowered sens for Long Ranges and adj. the deadzone for left stick to help limit some movement while sniping.
(http://i.imgur.com/H5tOfCb.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/7mxiwI0.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/kme83T3.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/kgOX5ss.jpg)

The problem was primarily the issue with subs. I kept accidentally hitting my snipe button while on the Sparrow, which would default me to HIP. It became a nuisance, Obs is working on fixing settings for future downloads. But right now having too many subs can become an issue.

So, I basically chose Sprint and Sparrow over snipe because I used them more often. Because of that and the fact that Destiny has an INSANE amount of aim assist. Notice that the configs I made above were only for Long Range. At Long Range those settings will help you with jitters. However, for close to mid range I personally like having some added movement while sniping. Added movement allows more precision for headshots. Aim assist is great for automatic weapons and if sub configs worked like I wanted them too I would be using another setting similar to my LR snipe just for firing. That way you could quickly acquire the target with my ballistic then slow movement down when you fire. If your shots are accurate, that type of setting would take advantage of aim assist and lock on the target. Trust me, if settings (sub configs) worked as I want them too, my ANAL setup would be at a whole other level of ANALITY.  ;)

You can check out the video R3MIX made while using my setup, he seems to be enjoying himself lol...
http://www.youtube.com/v/LHmo0yV-DBM&hd=1
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LHmo0yV-DBM



I also use a similar style curve for sniping with BF4 and Hardline (Snipe is all I do in those games), here are a couple videos of my gameplay.
http://www.youtube.com/v/6ZPW3crtRnA&hd=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZPW3crtRnA



http://www.youtube.com/v/ajwn6P8mDUE&feature&hd=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajwn6P8mDUE&feature=youtu.be



Thank you for this guide! I just got my Xim4 and used this guide to get my setup running.
  Congrats bro!!  ;D

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: R3MiX on 06:05 AM - 06/28/15
@#$%, Lambeau that's some very precise shots there.  Beast!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: RML on 02:01 PM - 06/28/15
@#$%, Lambeau that's some very precise shots there.  Beast!

Yeah, nice shots Lambeau! ;)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: Joehanz on 06:25 AM - 06/29/15
I'm a bit confused... I don't seem to have the "turn assist" option? I'm using the Android app.
Any help would be apreciated!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: RML on 11:58 AM - 06/29/15
I'm a bit confused... I don't seem to have the "turn assist" option? I'm using the Android app.
Any help would be apreciated!

You have to use the latest firmware and manager in the release candidate section in order to have Turn Assist. Here's a link - http://xim4.com/community/index.php?board=77.0

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: mark.agnir on 01:18 PM - 07/01/15
I just got the xim 4 for my ps4 and playing destiny. I need help getting the settings to run smoother. Now I have hip ads and sparrow. I use around 10000 boost for hip. Thanks
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: doggmatic on 06:43 PM - 07/01/15
Thanks for posting this - looks great.  I haven't figured out how to paste in those settings yet but haven't really tried - is there a trick?

I just got my Xim4 yesterday so I'm diving in.. it's not really plug & play haha.

I have an iphone only, nothing else with bluetooth so i had to set up wired to a laptop.  Ended up signing up for the iphone app test though so I will give it a go tonight with your profile.

I have a razer nostromo and I thought it would be good but the stick isnt actually analog... do you think it's worth picking up one of those Sony Nav things?  Plus a USB hub so I can have a keyboard + mouse + sony nav?

Thank sheaps
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: wobbleout on 06:06 PM - 07/02/15
My Sony Nav is not working correctly, I move the joy stick and nothing happens. I think I am confused on where it needs to be plugged in. I also am not sure if I need to keep the keyboard and controller plugged in? Can someone post a pic of what needs to be plugged in and where for the Sony Nav to work correctly? Please?

Thanks guys I am super excited to try this out and wreck fools
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: RML on 07:09 AM - 07/03/15
I just got the xim 4 for my ps4 and playing destiny. I need help getting the settings to run smoother. Now I have hip ads and sparrow. I use around 10000 boost for hip. Thanks

I'm not sure if this is a language barrier thing or a typo but, are you saying you still need help?


Thanks for posting this - looks great.  I haven't figured out how to paste in those settings yet but haven't really tried - is there a trick?

I just got my Xim4 yesterday so I'm diving in.. it's not really plug & play haha.


I have a razer nostromo and I thought it would be good but the stick isnt actually analog... do you think it's worth picking up one of those Sony Nav things?  Plus a USB hub so I can have a keyboard + mouse + sony nav?

Thank sheaps

- Make sure you click on the word "select" above the ballistic or button codes. That will highlight everything that you need to copy paste.

- Plug and Play? Depends on the game and the individual. When I play I either want to use XIM4 100% of the time or my controller 100% of the time, I don't like using both. So, multiple configs are necessary for the majority of the games. Even COD needs a Kill Streak config IMO, because of the slow turn speeds involved. I also Do NOT like aim assist taking over my aim while on target. So I typically use a tracking style curve to help with maneuverability when aim assist kicks in. Don't get me wrong, I like "some" aim assist, just not ALOT. Other's love aim assist and use almost the opposite curve that I do in order for aim assist to practically drag them to their target.

- Sony Nav is great for those of us that don't like KB's. I've never had the time to get into PC gaming, I spend waaaaay to much time console gaming as is. So, Nav is convenient for me.



My Sony Nav is not working correctly, I move the joy stick and nothing happens. I think I am confused on where it needs to be plugged in. I also am not sure if I need to keep the keyboard and controller plugged in?

Which version of manager and firmware are you using?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: RML on 08:17 AM - 07/03/15
Updated OP as the DPI calculator no longer works.  :(
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: Koteric on 09:33 PM - 07/04/15
Thanks a lot for taking the time to share this with us.  The BCs are great, and i found the setup for running/vehicles very good.  I use m/k so I didn't use your binding setup :p.  Using a wand controller in left hand and a mouse in right would probably freak me out.  :)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: Rotsen on 01:33 AM - 07/06/15
Hey, I'd like to see if you can figure something out with ADSing with the Last Word. As you know there's a bug with gun where you ADS you still achieve the bonus hipfire damage (111 headshots). With a controller I can get the bonus damage pretty often, but when I use the XIM I can't ever seem to get it. Does it have to do with the way the XIM reads ADS on a mouse or something?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: RML on 03:29 PM - 07/06/15
Hey, I'd like to see if you can figure something out with ADSing with the Last Word. As you know there's a bug with gun where you ADS you still achieve the bonus hipfire damage (111 headshots). With a controller I can get the bonus damage pretty often, but when I use the XIM I can't ever seem to get it. Does it have to do with the way the XIM reads ADS on a mouse or something?

How does this bug work, I actually wasn't aware of it. I've moved on from Destiny, for the most part. I still play a little, but I'm trying to finish up Witcher 3 before Gears UE in August. Then it will be a firestorm of games after that. Halo 5, Fallout 4, Battlefront, etc. etc. Destiny is slowing dying for me Personally. I will continue to support this thread though as much as possible.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: Rotsen on 05:55 PM - 07/06/15
Im not exactly sure, it randomly happens when you ADS with it. Might be due to the triggers on controllers. The game might  read that youre still hipfiring even though youre clearly ADSing.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: Pinion13 on 02:52 AM - 07/08/15
I can't get turn assist to bind to k3.  I use the same mouse as the op.  What am I doing wrong? 
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: R3MiX on 08:29 AM - 07/08/15
I can't get turn assist to bind to k3.  I use the same mouse as the op.  What am I doing wrong?

You need to bind K3 into a key stroke on LGS before you can bind it on the xim manager.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: RML on 08:35 AM - 07/08/15
I can't get turn assist to bind to k3.  I use the same mouse as the op.  What am I doing wrong?

Did you follow the LGS setup I posted. I want to assume Yes because you said K3. But make sure you setup your buttons in LGS to represent keyboard buttons.

I can't get turn assist to bind to k3.  I use the same mouse as the op.  What am I doing wrong?

You need to bind K3 into a key stroke on LGS before you can bind it on the xim manager.

Thanks R3MIX, you must've beaten me by mere seconds!  ;)

It's the first pic in this link
http://imgur.com/a/VfKnj
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: Pinion13 on 01:30 PM - 07/08/15
Thanks gents.  I missed that little gem.

What do you think this guy is using to turn so quickly and smoothly?  Something like your running config button?  I know he's using a xim and that he's a pvp beast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgBATzQnY8E
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: Eryxis on 02:24 PM - 07/08/15
Just out of curiosity, how do you know he uses a xim, and does he stream at all?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: Pinion13 on 02:43 PM - 07/08/15
He posts on the same message board I do and has stated that he does use a xim.  Not sure if he streams.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: RML on 04:28 PM - 07/08/15
Thanks gents.  I missed that little gem.

What do you think this guy is using to turn so quickly and smoothly?  Something like your running config button?  I know he's using a xim and that he's a pvp beast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgBATzQnY8E

Yes he uses XIM and he's a member of this community so just look him up and PM him. I would say he's using a KB, based on his movement. Personally, I think my movement's a little smoother then his. Not saying I'm better in any way. This guys a top 10 free for all player! Keep that in mind though, he spends an awful lot of time playing this game.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: Pinion13 on 06:00 PM - 07/08/15
Yeah he's way up there in the ranks.
http://destinytracker.com/destiny/player/ps/Rappo000

 The place I know him from gives him flack for using a xim rather than a controller so this would probably be a better place to ask. Not too sure he'll be eager to share details of his winning setup though.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: GU4RDI4N on 04:43 AM - 07/09/15
Hey guys, just joined this community after being convinced by RML to buy one of these (XIM4)

Never had one before and have never gamed on PC so new to all this, Just got my XIM4 this morning and going to set up (wish me luck) got myself a PS NAV because im not a fan of the WASD.
Bought this solely for Destiny and plan on using this guide to help me, the only difference i have is the mouse. I went for the Roccat Tyon instead of the G502 as i heard it is a good mouse + i like the analog on the side.

Well thats it just wanted to say thanks in advanced and if there are any pointer you vets have for a noob
 
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: RML on 07:27 AM - 07/09/15
Hey guys, just joined this community after being convinced by RML to buy one of these (XIM4)

Never had one before and have never gamed on PC so new to all this, Just got my XIM4 this morning and going to set up (wish me luck) got myself a PS NAV because im not a fan of the WASD.
Bought this solely for Destiny and plan on using this guide to help me, the only difference i have is the mouse. I went for the Roccat Tyon instead of the G502 as i heard it is a good mouse + i like the analog on the side.

Well thats it just wanted to say thanks in advanced and if there are any pointer you vets have for a noob

Welcome to the community! Like you, I was never a PC gamer. I came here because I wanted a new experience with console gaming and XIM definitely delivers that. The biggest thing is understanding that there is a learning curve. It took me at least a few weeks to get used to using a mouse and the Nav controller, it is worth it though! If it get's a little frustrating at some point, just remember this. The potential of the XIM4 is greater then the potential of the Gamepad with FPS's. I was an average player with a controller, never greater then 1-1.5 KD. After using XIM for about a month my performance and KD easily doubled. And, TBH, I could probably become a 3-5 KD player if I didn't play so reckless all the time. I mean watch any of my BF4 or Hardline video's, I literally Run N Gun with a sniper and I still maintain around a 2.0 KD and typically finish matches as the MVP. XIM is amazing, it makes gaming FUN for me, which is why I make threads like this one. I like to try and help support the community and this product.

I don't have a ton of time for gaming. Once I became use to using a mouse and NAV with XIM I found I could take time away from gaming, come back to it and still be a really good player. I could never do that with a controller. So, IMO, you made a wise choice my friend! 

Congratulations!!  ;D
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: GU4RDI4N on 08:00 AM - 07/09/15
Wow, thank you for taking time out to replay and thanks for the welcome.

I know it takes time to get used to something new, i do get frustrated but im am also very determined. I also have a similar KD 1.5. and 2.0 with a controller. I didnt even know there was such a thing as Kb/M on console but hopefully with a bit of practice i will be able to boost my KD.

ill be practicing on COD Ghost (AW is a pile of ****) and Destiny PVE, wont be playing PVP for a while.

I have 2 questions i you would be kind enough to clear up

Ok after reading your OP several times to understand it, do i map most of the keys to a KB and then map them to my mouse i.e for my super or the different subs

2. how do i get it so i can keep hold of a particular mouse button then ADS and it will lower the dpi, this would be like a sniping button to help me aim
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: RML on 09:43 AM - 07/09/15
Quote
Ok after reading your OP several times to understand it, do i map most of the keys to a KB and then map them to my mouse i.e for my super or the different subs

You just have to map the buttons to a KB that XIM4 doesn't recognize otherwise. I'm not sure which buttons that would be with your mouse, but typically this would include every button other then LC, RC, Forward, Back, Scroll up/Down and the Scroll button. So all the other buttons, you probably want to assign to a keyboard. Then the XIM4 should recognize them.

Quote
how do i get it so i can keep hold of a particular mouse button then ADS and it will lower the dpi, this would be like a sniping button to help me aim

There should be two ways of accomplishing this.
1. You should be able to use two different DPI settings with your mouse software. So just assign a lower DPI to which ever button you chose for sniping.
2. If you look back a couple of pages on this thread you'll see the settings I used for Long Range sniping (page 5, I believe). You can set this up as another sub config.

However...

I would suggest option ONE, going with a secondary DPI setting for sniping if you want slower movement. The way Sub configs currently work my Long Range Sub config creates more problems than it's worth. When OBsIV gets around to addressing the way Configs work, I will update this thread if it's still relevant.



Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: GU4RDI4N on 09:44 PM - 07/09/15
Oh my God, i cant believe how accurate this thing is. Been messing with it all day and shooting Dregs and.... just wow. What else can i say im able to headshot easily and sniping im getting better and better, Thanks again RML its because of you i picked one of these up.

One thing i cant figure out is how to add BC but ill get there, doing alot of reading so i dont spam the boards.

The other thing is i cant get one of the buttons of my Roccat Tyon to register in the manager probably in the RTS (key binding)

The only downside is i updated to the latest build and lost wireless NAV but its cool im sure someone working on it, having so much fun.

RML i owe you a drink bro

Edit - Just figured out the simple copy n paste BC function, facepalm der

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: RML on 04:50 PM - 07/10/15
Quote
RML i owe you a drink bro

Nah, it's cool man, OBsIV on the other hand...

JK, he gave me back Turn Assist so I'd say I still only owe him my entire gaming Life!   ;)

Glad your having fun!  :)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: R3MiX on 08:41 AM - 07/14/15
Oh my God, i cant believe how accurate this thing is. Been messing with it all day and shooting Dregs and.... just wow. What else can i say im able to headshot easily and sniping im getting better and better, Thanks again RML its because of you i picked one of these up.

One thing i cant figure out is how to add BC but ill get there, doing alot of reading so i dont spam the boards.

The other thing is i cant get one of the buttons of my Roccat Tyon to register in the manager probably in the RTS (key binding)

The only downside is i updated to the latest build and lost wireless NAV but its cool im sure someone working on it, having so much fun.

RML i owe you a drink bro



Hey what platform you on? Add me if your on PSN    oXo_R3MiX_oXo. Just message xim forum member.

Edit - Just figured out the simple copy n paste BC function, facepalm der
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: legendxiong on 07:08 AM - 07/15/15
Hey, I am struggling to set a macro on the mouse to use a super, or make a button to hold triangle to switch. I tried following your guide but I am not quite that smart on what your macro setting means lol. Any help on the macros? Thanks.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: RML on 08:12 AM - 07/15/15
Hey, I am struggling to set a macro on the mouse to use a super, or make a button to hold triangle to switch. I tried following your guide but I am not quite that smart on what your macro setting means lol. Any help on the macros? Thanks.

Sorry, we are not allowed to discuss macros in depth in the forums. However, you don't need a macro to activate Super with one button press. Take a look at reply #10 towards the bottom of page 1. I explain how to set this action up in that post. If you need further clarification or other questions about macros, please PM me. 
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: VITODATHO on 02:31 PM - 07/15/15

Hey guys, just joined this community after being convinced by RML to buy one of these (XIM4)

Never had one before and have never gamed on PC so new to all this, Just got my XIM4 this morning and going to set up (wish me luck) got myself a PS NAV because im not a fan of the WASD.
Bought this solely for Destiny and plan on using this guide to help me, the only difference i have is the mouse. I went for the Roccat Tyon instead of the G502 as i heard it is a good mouse + i like the analog on the side.

Well thats it just wanted to say thanks in advanced and if there are any pointer you vets have for a noob

Welcome to the community! Like you, I was never a PC gamer. I came here because I wanted a new experience with console gaming and XIM definitely delivers that. The biggest thing is understanding that there is a learning curve. It took me at least a few weeks to get used to using a mouse and the Nav controller, it is worth it though! If it get's a little frustrating at some point, just remember this. The potential of the XIM4 is greater then the potential of the Gamepad with FPS's. I was an average player with a controller, never greater then 1-1.5 KD. After using XIM for about a month my performance and KD easily doubled. And, TBH, I could probably become a 3-5 KD player if I didn't play so reckless all the time. I mean watch any of my BF4 or Hardline video's, I literally Run N Gun with a sniper and I still maintain around a 2.0 KD and typically finish matches as the MVP. XIM is amazing, it makes gaming FUN for me, which is why I make threads like this one. I like to try and help support the community and this product.

I don't have a ton of time for gaming. Once I became use to using a mouse and NAV with XIM I found I could take time away from gaming, come back to it and still be a really good player. I could never do that with a controller. So, IMO, you made a wise choice my friend! 

Congratulations!!  ;D

What you writing is like me thinking. Thumbs up for your support.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: VITODATHO on 07:14 AM - 07/18/15
Do you have such photo illustration of the layout of Nav and Mouse for BFH /BF4?
Regards D
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: RML on 10:09 AM - 07/18/15
Do you have such photo illustration of the layout of Nav and Mouse for BFH /BF4?
Regards D

I need to update that thread as I think I accidentally deleted an image or something. I'll see what I can do next week. I'll be working till Monday Though.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: VITODATHO on 11:24 AM - 07/18/15

Do you have such photo illustration of the layout of Nav and Mouse for BFH /BF4?
Regards D

I need to update that thread as I think I accidentally deleted an image or something. I'll see what I can do next week. I'll be working till Monday Though.
Great
When you have a time I/we will  appreciate it mate.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: Twisterman360 on 07:50 PM - 07/18/15
Did you change your running curve recently? It doesn't match up from the paste data to the picture. It's close but the paste data has a small hump in the middle.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: RML on 08:38 AM - 07/19/15
Did you change your running curve recently? It doesn't match up from the paste data to the picture. It's close but the paste data has a small hump in the middle.

Hmm... Yeah, looks like I forgot to change this back after trying a curve that mist had. I haven't played Destiny in awhile. I'll fix it when I get some time. I'm sure mist's curve works well to though.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: Twisterman360 on 09:19 AM - 07/20/15
Thanks yea it feels the same to me :)

Just curious as to what kind of stats everyone has with destiny and XIM? I feel like I have pretty decent stats but would like to compare to other XIM users so I know if I am terrible or not lol.

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: patchm00 on 12:16 PM - 07/20/15
Thanks yea it feels the same to me :)

Just curious as to what kind of stats everyone has with destiny and XIM? I feel like I have pretty decent stats but would like to compare to other XIM users so I know if I am terrible or not lol.
I don't think comparing to others is fair.   The only way would be before xim4 and after xim4  :)   mine would be very bad before!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: HardHitter on 11:19 AM - 07/21/15
Anyone know the forum name of the guy in the video that was posted a few posts earlier?

The question I'd like to understand is are you able to use the XIM4 settings to help control recoil?  For example, I use the Last Word fairly often and when ADS and click-firing (not holding down fire) the recoil brings my aim up quiet significantly.  The recoil path is upwards so I'm trying to understand how we can combat that.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: VITODATHO on 10:54 AM - 07/24/15
Hay buddy

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/24/0599d1ba2517954b53435dc58693b80d.jpg)

How can I add a function to this buttons K4,K5

I try to add from xim4  (fire mode) it worked but after minute not more, I think i need to manage something in Logitech Manager via PC?   
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: RML on 07:03 PM - 07/24/15
Are you trying to set those buttons up for your Sparrow like I did, or for something else?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: murrgh2014 on 09:14 PM - 07/24/15
How or where do you input the paste code?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: flst81 on 11:08 PM - 07/24/15
How can I add a function to this buttons K4,K5


I don't recall, but i  think you may have to go into LGS and assign keyboard strokes in the drop down menu to get left scroll and right  scroll to bind to a function.
Title: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: VITODATHO on 02:11 AM - 07/25/15
Are you trying to set those buttons up for your Sparrow like I did, or for something else?
For BF4 to change weapon.
How can I add a function to this buttons K4,K5


I don't recall, but i  think you may have to go into LGS and assign keyboard strokes in the drop down menu to get left scroll and right  scroll to bind to a function.
yes I think it have to be added as a kb button. can it be any kay random or one from list? (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/25/0ed7ae12805aab06f92b34f76696d51a.jpg)
(Radom pic from google)
Example :I made  (prev tab in browser C  ) button (q)from KB and when i add from xim (reload commando ) it was reloading but at same time going Left. Are some kb buttons that I need to not bound to g700s ?
A guess i mis something, There are some basic rules that I need to know. I search long on you tube advances tutorial how LGS works but the one that I need to know is not to find. I was experimenting and than fall in sleep  :) i had looong day.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: RML on 09:22 AM - 07/25/15
How can I add a function to this buttons K4,K5


I don't recall, but i  think you may have to go into LGS and assign keyboard strokes in the drop down menu to get left scroll and right  scroll to bind to a function.

Yes, the K in K4and K5 ='s Keyboard buttons 4 and 5 respectively. However, I donot actually assign them that way for Destiny. I assign a multi-key function (macro) within LGS to use them to mount and dismount the Sparrow. All the info you guys need is in the OP.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: RML on 09:25 AM - 07/25/15
Are you trying to set those buttons up for your Sparrow like I did, or for something else?
For BF4 to change weapon.
How can I add a function to this buttons K4,K5


I don't recall, but i  think you may have to go into LGS and assign keyboard strokes in the drop down menu to get left scroll and right  scroll to bind to a function.
yes I think it have to be added as a kb button. can it be any kay random or one from list? (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/25/0ed7ae12805aab06f92b34f76696d51a.jpg)
(Radom pic from google)
Example :I made  (prev tab in browser C  ) button (q)from KB and when i add from xim (reload commando ) it was reloading but at same time going Left. Are some kb buttons that I need to not bound to g700s ?
A guess i mis something, There are some basic rules that I need to know. I search long on you tube advances tutorial how LGS works but the one that I need to know is not to find. I was experimenting and than fall in sleep  :) i had looong day.

It can be pretty much any KB button as long as it only has one function. Another words, make sure you only assing reload to it.

Q - should work fine. Are you sure you aren't accidentally pressing "A" ? Remember WASD are used for movement on a keyboard. The "A" button would be used for moving left. You don't want to assign ANYTHING to WASD unless you first deactivate them in Xim Manager.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: RML on 09:34 AM - 07/25/15
How or where do you input the paste code?

In Xim manager, bottm left of curve screen or bottom of button screen, depending on which codes you want to apply. There are currently several different styles of codes out there though with all the beta's going on so it can get confusing.

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: SuperBee26 on 12:13 PM - 07/26/15
So i just got my xim4 on friday and ive been using your set up with my own twiste. The only thing is i dont have an option to turn on turn assistance. Is there something special i need to do to get it? I have the latest firmware.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: anubisrich on 04:01 PM - 07/26/15
So i just got my xim4 on friday and ive been using your set up with my own twiste. The only thing is i dont have an option to turn on turn assistance. Is there something special i need to do to get it? I have the latest firmware.

There is a beta release now.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: digital blasphemy on 10:57 AM - 07/27/15
Thanks so
much RML. Your the best. How do i interpret this "Here's an example of how to match my sensitivity's If you're using a different DPI then I am.
Your DPI 12000 / my DPI 8000 = 1.5
Your HIP sens / 1.5 = My Hip sens
Your ADS sens / 1.5 = My ADS sens"  im useing 12000 dpi. Whats 1.5 mean?

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: VITODATHO on 11:01 AM - 07/27/15
RML you should definitely make a YouTube tutorial of all of your knowledge and make us grate warriors ;) to fight together:)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: flybyeu on 06:47 PM - 07/27/15
 can someone please help? how do I copy and past this code?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: RML on 10:15 AM - 07/28/15
How do i interpret this "Here's an example of how to match my sensitivity's If you're using a different DPI then I am.
Your DPI 12000 / my DPI 8000 = 1.5
Your HIP sens / 1.5 = My Hip sens
Your ADS sens / 1.5 = My ADS sens"  im useing 12000 dpi. Whats 1.5 mean?

Your DPI divided by my DPI (assuming mines lower then yours, if yours is lower, then Divide my DPI by your DPI). Now take the sum (in this case 1.5) and divide your hip sens by the sum (or my hip sens, again depending on which is higher) the sum of this should match my sensitivity for HIP.

There are other factors though, such as mouse pad, polling rate, different mice, optical, laser, etc. But this is the best I can do to help you get close to my settings.

RML you should definitely make a YouTube tutorial of all of your knowledge and make us grate warriors ;) to fight together:)

I wish OBs or mist would do something like this, I'm just a Padawan TBH. Lol @ warriors to fight together, that definitely made me chuckle. I may make something at some point. Right now I'm just too caught up in a bunch of Audio gear testing.


can someone please help? how do I copy and past this code?



Which one? Which firmware?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: Xiulan on 02:35 PM - 07/29/15
This may have been answered, but if the keyboard needs to be connected to the xim4, do I need a usb hub in order to also have my PS nav contoller connected so that I can use the same set up as yours?
cheers
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: RML on 08:37 PM - 07/29/15
This may have been answered, but if the keyboard needs to be connected to the xim4, do I need a usb hub in order to also have my PS nav contoller connected so that I can use the same set up as yours?
cheers

Actually, I was messing around with this awhile back and I think I determined you don't actually have to have the KB hooked up. I'm pretty sure it will work anyways, I can't remember though TBH. Give it a go without the KB before buying a usb hub and see what happens. If it doesn't work then yes, you will need a usb hub. They're pretty cheap on amazon though. I think I paid $4.99 for mine a few years ago.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: VITODATHO on 08:55 AM - 07/30/15
 It's possible with G 13 to program it or better KB? 
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: VITODATHO on 09:01 AM - 07/30/15
Can I do ballistics manual from app ? If I do it takes different shape than your copy past method.   
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: Xiulan on 09:56 PM - 07/30/15
thanks for the info. I'm messing with it right now. One question though, are you not using turn assist while not in the running config? I feel like I cant turn very well and I'm getting owned. I turned on turn assist in HIP but still feels awkward. Any suggewsstions?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: Wainbow on 04:04 AM - 08/01/15
hey guys!

ok so im quite dumb when it comes to all this stuff things are kinda going over my head here :(

Im using a tablet Android manager for the XIM4

So I play COD heaps and love the feel yep thats awesome but a lot of my friends are getting on destiny now and want me to join em. but the std settings feels shocking and I really cant play it how it is.

so im guessing all the copy and pasting is on PC? or can this be done in the app. Ive not played around with the XIM at all so im kinda noob and dumb when it comes to this :(

hope you can help in stupid me language :|

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: RML on 11:28 AM - 08/01/15
It's possible with G 13 to program it or better KB?

Sry VITODATHO, I don't have a G13. I just use a cheap Dell KB because the only thing I use it for is LGS and changing Configs.


Can I do ballistics manual from app ? If I do it takes different shape than your copy past method.   

Yes, of course you can manually make any ballistic you want. I actually encourage all of you to use my setup as a base line, then tweak it to your liking. Everyone has their own particular preferences. My setup should just be used as a starting point, a base line, if you will.


thanks for the info. I'm messing with it right now. One question though, are you not using turn assist while not in the running config? I feel like I cant turn very well and I'm getting owned. I turned on turn assist in HIP but still feels awkward. Any suggewsstions?

I don't use TA with HIP as it does feel too awkward to use. TA works great for Running though as well as sparrow. My suggestion is to try slower steady movements with your mouse. With my setup you will exceed the turn cap rather quickly. If you're not, then your not matching your sens to mine correctly by calculating the DPI difference.

Here's how I setup my Turn speed for every single game I play.

I always set up Turn speed "In Game". So fire up the game, get away from any enemies then do the following.

- Push Start and Select at the same time on your controller, this will put you into "On the Fly" Sens adj. mode with the XIM4. Now pressing Up or Down on the D-pad will increase or Decrease your HIP turn speed, Pressing Left or Right on the D-Pad will increase or decrease your ADS turn speed. You will notice which is being affected by the XIM4 flashing Yellow (HIP) or Green (ADS).

- Press Down on the D-pad until you lower your sens all the way down and mouse movement does nothing on Screen.

- While swiping your mouse back and forth push Up on the D-pad until you feel like your sens has reached it's max. By Max I mean until you reach the point where your movement of the mouse doesn't feel wasted and matches character movement on screen. It is important that you do this using consistent swipes with your mouse. For a game like Destiny, you DONOT want to exceed a velocity of more then about 12-14 inches per second. For example, what I used to do was measure my mouse pad surface and mark a 12in. area with scotch tape. Then take a stop watch (every smart phone has one) and time my mouse swipes, back and forth, until I was consistently achieving my desired movement speed of 12-14in per second. This velocity of movement should now equal your MAX movement velocity. Trust me, I know it's hard sometimes, especially in Multiplayer, in the heat of the moment. You want to make that quick twitch or sudden jerk to shoot an enemy, but you can't. If you do, your going to move way too fast and waste movement which actually makes you turn slower. You have to learn the games MAX turn speed and you have to ride it like a fine _______  :-* if your going to be consistent. You can move slower if you like, for fine aiming, etc. But if you move faster you will be wasting movement. OBsIV gave us that flashing Turn Cap light for a reason. You can exceed it, but if you exceed it and continue to accelerate you will lose movement. I've learned the key is, if you're going to exceed the Turn Cap then you'd better do it with consistent movement. I have trained myself to the point now that I don't need to measure anymore and I understand the limitations of the XIM when it comes to games like Destiny and Halo. Now for games like BF and COD this really isn't necessary, but this is about the turn speed limitations of Destiny. That being said, If you can train yourself to follow this guideline for all the games you play, you will allow yourself to build that muscle memory that is very important for aiming with a mouse and you will have a better experience with XIM overall, IMO.

- Now, do the same thing for ADS by pushing Left on the D-pad until you have no movement, then press Right while maintaining a consistent velocity with your mouse swipes until you've reached your MAX turn speed.

I hope that helps.

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: synthetik on 03:48 PM - 08/01/15
I was going to create another thread, but I will most likely be trying this guide out on Monday when I get my XIM *shakes fist at fedex*

I want to know how well XIM4 will perform right out of the box with Destiny? I know there is going to be personal tweaks needed, especially since I'll be using my trusty old MX518 1600dps mouse to start things off, but what can I expect when I first get it setup? Should I even bother with the default settings or should I load up this guide right off the bat? I'm at work and super psyched about getting it on Monday so I'm just filling my time with theorycrafts  ;D
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: RML on 07:55 PM - 08/01/15
You should try setting up Destiny sensitivity wise as I posted a little while ago. If you don't like it, then give my setup a try.

If nothing else it will help you appreciate my advanced setup.  :P

Seriously, some games need a little help, some don't. That's the nature of the beast when these developers put a turn speed cap on their games.

You made a great choice with XIM4, it's an awesome product!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: flybyeu on 07:57 AM - 08/02/15
Hi RML thank you this post!!! does this Sony Move controle works with xim4 on xbox one?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: RML on 10:06 AM - 08/02/15
Hi RML thank you this post!!! does this Sony Move controle works with xim4 on xbox one?

I'm assuming your talking about the Nav (the one with the thumbstick, which is the one in my pics). YES, that's all I play with and I'm on Xbox One. I suck with a Keyboard!

If your talking about the wand looking thing with the bubble on top, I don't think that works.

Here you go -


This one works
(http://baytter.com/Images/goods/big20111109065641815.jpg)


This one, IDK? I'm assuming NO, because it's a motion detection devise, but I don't have it so...
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31DPgrmQSgL._SX425_.jpg)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: Xiulan on 06:48 PM - 08/02/15
Thanks For the lengthy reply. I just order the G 502 and I'm going to use your settings as much as I feel comfortable with. I think I'm going to forgo my Nav controller just because I have been so used to M/KB that why stray if that's where my muscle memory lies. My PVP in Destiny has improved a bit with my current setup which is cool, but I deffinitaley want more (fricken turn speed :o). I am still having difficulty with being able to switch to different modes like from HIP to Running via a hotkey/bind, but I will read up more in the posts and see if I can figure it out. I know you mentioned the order has to be HIPS, ADS, Running, Vehicle, but my background colors for each of those don't seem to match yours(my Running has a red background in the manager). I also, for the life of me, cannot get the "only the fly" to work, I'm pressing the star/select(or at least I think I am) and nothing seems to pop. I'll research a bit. Again, thanks for all your help. 
Cheers
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: RML on 09:23 PM - 08/02/15
I don't think you can edit "on the fly" if you're connected to XIM manager via smart phone or whatever. So either disconnect from the phone or just use your phone to adj. on the fly. Doesn't really matter, what matters is starting from zero and adj. until you get the most out of your movement without wasted movement. Also KB's great, I just suck at it.  ;)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: VITODATHO on 02:20 AM - 08/03/15
As I understand you use different primary reload/enter button than one secondary button for helicopter/car/torret ?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: RML on 08:13 AM - 08/03/15
As I understand you use different primary reload/enter button than one secondary button for helicopter/car/torret ?

Helicopter? Lol.. this is Destiny man.  ;)

I will try to answer your question in the BF thread.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: VITODATHO on 08:41 AM - 08/03/15

As I understand you use different primary reload/enter button than one secondary button for helicopter/car/torret ?

Helicopter? Lol.. this is Destiny man.  ;)

I will try to answer your question in the BF thread.
:)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: Xiulan on 07:02 PM - 08/03/15
Quick question....not about helicopters LOL. In the LGS macro's having trouble binding middle mouse button, wheel up, wheel down....any ideas? or can you point me in the right direction
cheers
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: Bonjah on 03:47 AM - 08/04/15
Hi!

Havent tried this out yet. But can I use your settings even if I got a g400s mouse. Or it have to be the g502 with 12500 dpi? At work now and maybe have to drop by the store back home. ;) Even if the g400 works. Will the performance be much better with the g502 with much higher dpi?

EDIT.
Ok, read in posts before how to get your own numbers. Atm I just put the sensitivity up to max(500) that the only setup I change.. Will try this when I get home and see if I get a better feeling of it. :)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: synthetik on 06:44 PM - 08/04/15
I've got a g502 and a Playstation Gold Wireless headset on the way, its been ok so far with the MX518 but Im hoping to see a nice difference with the new mouse.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: Bonjah on 08:34 AM - 08/05/15
I got myself a g502 now. And now its just the hard part left![emoji28]
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: Bringer on 03:09 AM - 08/07/15
What would you change your settings to to increase aim assist.
I want the absolute most cheese, op settings available to dominate :)

Thank you, love your work!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: synthetik on 02:40 PM - 08/08/15
Gold Wireless Headset is fantastic and the G502 mouse made a huge difference vs the old MX518. I've only tried it so far at 8000 DPI but I may try it at the max 12000 tonight and see how it feels. Thanks for all the info here.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: xJAMESx on 06:07 AM - 08/11/15
Did I something wrong?
Using the G502 with 2400 DPI your settings working perfetly, not to fast or to slow.
Changing DPI to 8000, its far too fast.
Actually I using HIP at 7.5, ADS 3,3 and Running at 25

Ingame sensitivity is at 10 (maximum)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: RML on 07:30 AM - 08/11/15
What would you change your settings to to increase aim assist.
I want the absolute most cheese, op settings available to dominate :)

Thank you, love your work!
You should use a negative acceleration curve for ADS. Something that looks kind of like the one on the right here.(http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i417/computergeek13/Misc/duty/cg13bo2curves5700dpi4520-1.jpg)
I will be showing you guys how to do this with the fire button sometime down the road, when OBs fixes sub settings.


Did I something wrong?
Using the G502 with 2400 DPI your settings working perfetly, not to fast or to slow.
Changing DPI to 8000, its far too fast.
Actually I using HIP at 7.5, ADS 3,3 and Running at 25

Ingame sensitivity is at 10 (maximum)

Nothing wrong, just sounds like you're a Low Sensitivity player. I would suggest raising your DPI setting and lowering your sens. Try something like 4000 DPI with 5.5 hip, 2.2 ADS. In my experience XIM feels smoother with dpi over 3600.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: centurionwz on 11:44 PM - 08/11/15
I am a complete newbie to XIM, I just got it in the Mail today, How do I copy paste into the config?  I am using the iPhone flight test map.  Im not sure how to get these settings T__T.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: xJAMESx on 07:17 AM - 08/12/15
Thanks RML will try it!
2400 DPI with your settings was perfect for me, I was wondering  ;D

I calculated:
ADS was at 11,25 perfect at 2400 DPI
With 4000 DPI it shoud be:

4000/2400 = 1,66
11,25/1,66 = ~6,77

And Hip
25/1,66 = ~15,06

Ill try it, may thanks!



Btw: How you can play with this high sensitive.. its crazy :D I using for fast view the running hold toggle, its pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: panama192 on 08:55 AM - 08/12/15
RML, many thanks for sharing your config, it was a good starting point.
But I still couldn't figure a couple of things:

1. My firmware is latest, but I can't find aim assist field in my app.
2. I did LGS setup as you recommend and still can't bind DPI buttons. In windows environment it works properly (types 3 and 2) but xim app can't recognize they anyway. Maybe I need to try to assign a buttons 2 and 3 directly from the keyboard and then switch back to nav?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: FuriousFurby on 03:01 PM - 08/12/15
Hello,
I'm a new XIM4 user and I've been trying to follow along with your advanced setup guidelines.  I'm beginning to better conceptualize all of the potential in the XIM4 and in a mouse with onboard memory.  So thank you for all of the information you've included.

One area of confusion I have is in regards to the activation of the Running configuration.  In your HIP/ADS setup, you have J9 set to Sprint (Hold to start the Run Config), but in your Vehicle configuration you have (B) on the mouse set to go to the Running configuration.  Is there a way to assign two activation buttons to a single config?  And in doing so, wouldn't that (B) on the mouse then interfere with your melee by pulling up the Running configuration while trying to melee while in HIP/ADS Config?

I'm sure there is something easy that I'm missing (perhaps older images from different/conflicting configurations?), but any clarification would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: splinter36 on 03:50 PM - 08/12/15
What is K3?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: xJAMESx on 12:42 AM - 08/13/15
What is K3?

Keyboard 3
I think its the "3" button on your keyboard.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: Bringer on 04:48 AM - 08/13/15
Is there a way to copy the exact shapes on the advanced ads?

I don't even know how to explain this.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: q3sebo on 05:48 AM - 08/13/15
Do you guys know why my xim manager buttons do not match the buttons i bind on my mouse? For example in xim manager i see field=fire and i bind it to LMB as usual and when in game i push LMB it goes for example male or granades. I have tried to change in game buttons layout but there is no layout that matches 100% to the layout of xim manager. Also i have noticed that i do not have in my xim manager field called "turn assist" "toogle" which RML has... and shown in this post.
Also on my G502 i cannot bind in xim manager buttons like K1,2,3,6 when manager is listening and i push them nothing happens. I used both managers on my pc and androind phone and on both there is the same problem i can bing rest of the keys but not the ones i mentioned.

update1: i have figured out why my buttons do not match. I swapped using a square button L1 R1 with L2 R2. Now is ok.
But still do not know why  cannot map some buttons from g502 :( like xim do not recognize them. Any ideas? And what is that misterious filed "turn assist"...
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: flst81 on 08:13 AM - 08/13/15
you'll have to use LGS for your mouse and assign keyboard strokes to the buttons on the mouse ( in the drop down menu for each button you want to reassign) . Then you can bind them in Xim manager. Turn assist is a recent addition that's in the newer release candidates. It helps with certain things like turrets, helo, etc that was hard to turn
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: splinter36 on 08:26 AM - 08/13/15
When I paste the ballistic curves they don't show the shape as displayed in the pictures by OP.

They stay looking as the same diagonal line.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: RML on 08:12 AM - 08/15/15
Sry guys, it's been a hectic few weeks. Work, life and all Lol.. One thing I want to point out real quick is that I haven't updated the curves for the latest firmware in the release candidate section yet. Even though they say "old" and "new". A new beta firmware has dropped since 6/23, I will update when I can. Also, I accidentally posted the code for a curve Mist had made, it looks a little different then mine. I will update that as well. I should have time to accomplish all this early next week and will post when everything is up to date. I personally rarely play Destiny any more but I will spend sometime with it to make sure everything is correct. Thanks for your patience.

Hello,
I'm a new XIM4 user and I've been trying to follow along with your advanced setup guidelines.  I'm beginning to better conceptualize all of the potential in the XIM4 and in a mouse with onboard memory.  So thank you for all of the information you've included.

One area of confusion I have is in regards to the activation of the Running configuration.  In your HIP/ADS setup, you have J9 set to Sprint (Hold to start the Run Config), but in your Vehicle configuration you have (B) on the mouse set to go to the Running configuration.  Is there a way to assign two activation buttons to a single config?  And in doing so, wouldn't that (B) on the mouse then interfere with your melee by pulling up the Running configuration while trying to melee while in HIP/ADS Config?

I'm sure there is something easy that I'm missing (perhaps older images from different/conflicting configurations?), but any clarification would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

Hello Furious Furby, Sry about the confusion. This Setup Guide has seen multiple updates since I first posted it and that includes some button variations. I must have missed updating those pics. I used to use the Back button to run, had changed it to J9 and failed to completely update the pic. I currently only use "B" for Melee, J9 for Sprint and J7 for crouch. Good catch, Thank you!


RML, many thanks for sharing your config, it was a good starting point.
But I still couldn't figure a couple of things:

1. My firmware is latest, but I can't find aim assist field in my app.
2. I did LGS setup as you recommend and still can't bind DPI buttons. In windows environment it works properly (types 3 and 2) but xim app can't recognize they anyway. Maybe I need to try to assign a buttons 2 and 3 directly from the keyboard and then switch back to nav?


By Aim assist, I'm assuming you mean Turn Assist? If you have the latest firmware that can be found in the release candidate section, then it will be in Xim Manager. If it's not right here in Manager, then you don't have the latest build. (http://i.imgur.com/bKZgwEi.png)

In LGS you have to assign KB buttons to Dpi up and down as I did, then they will be recognized in Manager. That's all K3, K4, etc. mean "Keyboard Buttons 3 and 4."


Is there a way to copy the exact shapes on the advanced ads?

I don't even know how to explain this.

When coping codes you should always click on the Select button. That will highlight everything that needs to be copy/pasted. Then right click on the highlighted text and copy it.



When I paste the ballistic curves they don't show the shape as displayed in the pictures by OP.

They stay looking as the same diagonal line.

It sounds like you're using a different firmware then what I've posted. I'm going to update this next week.


Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: RML on 08:22 AM - 08/15/15
But still do not know why  cannot map some buttons from g502 :( like xim do not recognize them. Any ideas? And what is that misterious filed "turn assist"...

Did you assign KB buttons to those unrecognizable buttons within LGS? You have to do that before Xim Manager will recognize them. Look through the OP again, I added a link there that talked about doing this in the mouse software on your computer.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: Lurkin374 on 09:57 PM - 08/19/15
need a little help understanding. I think I have all my settings correct as far as hip, ads, running and vehicle. but I'm on sure on activation. I use the sony nav and g502, I have all my buttons assigned to a key stroke.

how do I know something is activated. like I use the save stick button to sprint, I have that bound to the run map..i think, LOL

also, what is steady aim?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: djay on 11:39 AM - 08/20/15

need a little help understanding. I think I have all my settings correct as far as hip, ads, running and vehicle. but I'm on sure on activation. I use the sony nav and g502, I have all my buttons assigned to a key stroke.

how do I know something is activated. like I use the save stick button to sprint, I have that bound to the run map..i think, LOL

also, what is steady aim?
your xim will blink the moment your activate the button and blink again the moment you release it
Cmiiw
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: antithesis on 09:45 PM - 08/20/15
your xim will blink the moment your activate the button and blink again the moment you release it
Cmiiw

Or have Xim Manager open - all keypresses will display on-screen.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: tOwely on 04:34 AM - 08/22/15
So i have a question, im new here so im sorry if im asking dumb questions.
Ive been running with the T1 since destiny release, and with the settings i had the huge amount of auto aim in Destiny worked fine really.

Im all for aiming my self, but it feels like you are a bit gimped when playing destiny since the auto aim when using the controller is so high.

So what does the balistic curve actually do?
Do i loose the 1to1 mouse feel? And does it give me "more sticky autoaim", so it aims for me to some degree?
Or what does the curve actually do ?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: djay on 08:04 AM - 08/22/15

your xim will blink the moment your activate the button and blink again the moment you release it
Cmiiw

Or have Xim Manager open - all keypresses will display on-screen.
yeah that would do also [emoji16]
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: RML on 05:36 AM - 08/24/15

what does the curve actually do ?

I'm assuming you're talking about the ADS curve. If so, I created this curve to actually Combat Sticky aim. I like to have a lot of control over my aiming "Especially when aiming at multiple targets." Sticky aim works great for 1v1 encounters but screws with your aim when several targets our on the screen. I don't like the feeling of being dragged around the screen, sticky aim also makes headshots more difficult for me. This curve won't completely over power sticky aim, just helps with more control of your aiming when sticky aim kicks in.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: JLF on 04:45 PM - 08/24/15
RML,

Thank you for doing this! I'm jumping into this XiM4 thing with both feet.  I'm applying it to Destiny/PS4 and frankly, it's a bit overwhelming.  Please keep it up!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: Stolen_Insanity on 10:56 AM - 08/26/15
I don't have the turn assist option on my XIM manager, why is that?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: Sif Noob on 05:43 PM - 08/26/15
I don't have the turn assist option on my XIM manager, why is that?

99% you're not running the latest firnware. You can find it in downloads/release candidates.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: SkunkPro on 05:58 AM - 08/27/15
Hi, this looks great. The thing is is, I really need a little bit help to fix this. I actually only need the setting to turn faster around when running and when I drive a vehicle. When I go to the XIM Manager on my mobile, and go to settings of "Destiny" I have two things: "Hip" and "Aim Down Sight". The forum post says the other two "Running" and "Vehicle" I'll have to make myself, so I did. But when making these things it doesn't change anything, so I probably have to do something with those code under 'Old' and 'New' firmware and copy-paste them to "somewhere"... Could anyone explain me what I have to do with those codes to make the settings working? I don't see any place in my XIM app on my phone to enter those codes, or is this only able when I connect the XIM to my computer?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: Stolen_Insanity on 06:26 AM - 08/27/15
What does 'boost' do?

I've tried it on 0 and on 500 and can't seem to see a difference.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: Stolen_Insanity on 06:28 AM - 08/27/15
Hi, this looks great. The thing is is, I really need a little bit help to fix this. I actually only need the setting to turn faster around when running and when I drive a vehicle. When I go to the XIM Manager on my mobile, and go to settings of "Destiny" I have two things: "Hip" and "Aim Down Sight". The forum post says the other two "Running" and "Vehicle" I'll have to make myself, so I did. But when making these things it doesn't change anything, so I probably have to do something with those code under 'Old' and 'New' firmware and copy-paste them to "somewhere"... Could anyone explain me what I have to do with those codes to make the settings working? I don't see any place in my XIM app on my phone to enter those codes, or is this only able when I connect the XIM to my computer?

I would also like this clarifying too please.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: Stolen_Insanity on 06:58 AM - 08/27/15
Another question.

I'm currently using a Razer Naga mouse set at 5600dpi.

Using the ballistic curves you use, my HIP is pretty jittery. Any solution to this?

Many thanks.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: Uber Pooch on 06:43 PM - 08/27/15
RML, here's what I need from you:

1. Your PayPal account.
2. Tell me whenever you get a new mouse so I can buy the same one.
3. Please tell me you'll be playing Halo 5.

I'll happily pay you for your ST settings for any game we share!

You probably think I'm kidding. That would be a mistake.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: flst81 on 10:11 AM - 08/28/15
He definitely has put time and effort into everything he does and is very generous with giving his setup to everyone for free. I know where youre coming from though.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: RML on 10:45 AM - 08/28/15
Hi, this looks great. The thing is is, I really need a little bit help to fix this. I actually only need the setting to turn faster around when running and when I drive a vehicle. When I go to the XIM Manager on my mobile, and go to settings of "Destiny" I have two things: "Hip" and "Aim Down Sight". The forum post says the other two "Running" and "Vehicle" I'll have to make myself, so I did. But when making these things it doesn't change anything, so I probably have to do something with those code under 'Old' and 'New' firmware and copy-paste them to "somewhere"... Could anyone explain me what I have to do with those codes to make the settings working? I don't see any place in my XIM app on my phone to enter those codes, or is this only able when I connect the XIM to my computer?

I would also like this clarifying too please.

I just updated all the codes "Ballistics and Buttons" to the latest firm ware 20150816. You can copy/paste codes via phone or computer.

Sry guys, between work, marriage, the man cave "fixing up/building my own portable entertainment center" Gears UE and audio testing, RML's been a busy lad!


RML, here's what I need from you:

1. Your PayPal account.
2. Tell me whenever you get a new mouse so I can buy the same one.
3. Please tell me you'll be playing Halo 5.

I'll happily pay you for your ST settings for any game we share!

You probably think I'm kidding. That would be a mistake.

LMAO ... that's freaking funny bro! Unlike that other guy (Dr. @#$%) I don't need money. Time's all I need, Haha.. Never enough hrs. in a day.


He definitely has put time and effort into everything he does and is very generous with giving his setup to everyone for free. I know where youre coming from though.

Much respect, all I ask for is a toast. So here's to XIM baby! (insert drink of choice here)

 :)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 8/28/15)
Post by: RML on 11:06 AM - 08/28/15
Please note: I recently got rid of my Keyboard and just went with a small numeric keypad (because it's all I need and takes up less space). I'm mentioning this because this is reflected in my button codes. If you're going to use my LGS settings, you'll have to chg. the keyboard keys labeled K1 - K9 to their numeric pad twin. For example K6 is now kpad 6.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 8/28/15)
Post by: Uber Pooch on 12:13 PM - 08/28/15
Please note: I recently got rid of my Keyboard and just went with a small numeric keypad (because it's all I need and takes up less space). I'm mentioning this because this is reflected in my button codes. If you're going to use my LGS settings, you'll have to chg. the keyboard keys labeled K1 - K9 to their numeric pad twin. For example K6 is now kpad 6.

I'm guessing you're using the thumb buttons on your G502 for some of your commands. I wish I could do this but I've got large hands/fingers and half the time I misfire when trying to use anything except left/right and the scroll wheel. :(

Just curious, what num keypad are you using?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 8/28/15)
Post by: djay on 12:14 PM - 08/28/15

Hi, this looks great. The thing is is, I really need a little bit help to fix this. I actually only need the setting to turn faster around when running and when I drive a vehicle. When I go to the XIM Manager on my mobile, and go to settings of "Destiny" I have two things: "Hip" and "Aim Down Sight". The forum post says the other two "Running" and "Vehicle" I'll have to make myself, so I did. But when making these things it doesn't change anything, so I probably have to do something with those code under 'Old' and 'New' firmware and copy-paste them to "somewhere"... Could anyone explain me what I have to do with those codes to make the settings working? I don't see any place in my XIM app on my phone to enter those codes, or is this only able when I connect the XIM to my computer?

I would also like this clarifying too please.
Go to mouse setting and advanced
Inside you can find two icon,
One for copy and the other for paste

Double box mean copy
Box with arrow down mean paste

CMIIW
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: Uber Pooch on 12:28 PM - 08/28/15
RML, here's what I need from you:

1. Your PayPal account.
2. Tell me whenever you get a new mouse so I can buy the same one.
3. Please tell me you'll be playing Halo 5.

I'll happily pay you for your ST settings for any game we share!

You probably think I'm kidding. That would be a mistake.

LMAO ... that's freaking funny bro! Unlike that other guy (Dr. @#$%) I don't need money. Time's all I need, Haha.. Never enough hrs. in a day.

Well, your call but anytime you want to offer your services just let me know. For me a solid ST makes/breaks my experience with a game. I'm a complete noob with tweaking my XIM and fail miserably at understanding/setting curves, velocity, and the rest of the magic you wield.

I am glad that we both use the G502 but just remember to let me know if you change this in the future! Fingers crossed you'll be playing Halo 5, Star Wars Battlefront and Battleborn!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: Loki on 01:22 PM - 08/28/15
RML, here's what I need from you:

1. Your PayPal account.
2. Tell me whenever you get a new mouse so I can buy the same one.
3. Please tell me you'll be playing Halo 5.

I'll happily pay you for your ST settings for any game we share!

You probably think I'm kidding. That would be a mistake.

LMAO ... that's freaking funny bro! Unlike that other guy (Dr. @#$%) I don't need money. Time's all I need, Haha.. Never enough hrs. in a day.

Well, your call but anytime you want to offer your services just let me know. For me a solid ST makes/breaks my experience with a game. I'm a complete noob with tweaking my XIM and fail miserably at understanding/setting curves, velocity, and the rest of the magic you wield.

I am glad that we both use the G502 but just remember to let me know if you change this in the future! Fingers crossed you'll be playing Halo 5, Star Wars Battlefront and Battleborn!

Is there a USB Hub you recommend for this config and I take it that I would put it in the keyboard port and plug the Sony Nav and keyboard into the USB Hub. Do you think a Num Pad can be used instead of a keyboard?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: flst81 on 09:41 AM - 08/29/15

Much respect, all I ask for is a toast. So here's to XIM baby! (insert drink of choice here)

 :)


Well, here's to you my friend!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 8/28/15)
Post by: RML on 10:06 AM - 08/29/15
I'm guessing you're using the thumb buttons on your G502 for some of your commands. I wish I could do this but I've got large hands/fingers and half the time I misfire when trying to use anything except left/right and the scroll wheel. :(

Just curious, what num keypad are you using?

I use the Back button for Melee and the Forward button for Grenades.

I bought this keypad from Best Buy for $4.99!  :)
I use the + and - keys to scroll through configs and everything else for multi-key settings in LGS. That's really all I need it for.
(http://pisces.bbystatic.com/image2/BestBuy_US/images/products/3512/3512312_sd.jpg;canvasHeight=500;canvasWidth=500)


Is there a USB Hub you recommend for this config and I take it that I would put it in the keyboard port and plug the Sony Nav and keyboard into the USB Hub. Do you think a Num Pad can be used instead of a keyboard?

I use this one - http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-USB-2-0-4-Port-Ultra-Mini/dp/B000Q8UAWY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1440864179&sr=8-1&keywords=belkin+usb+hub&pebp=1440864246375&perid=1DV5QA6R8V5H9B5F6PK7

But pretty much any hub should work. I would suggest a powered usb hub if you have a lot of things plugged into the same power strip as your console. IDK about the PS4 but the XB1 has a known power supply issue, especially if it's not plugged straight into the wall. The pic above answers your other question.  ;)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 8/28/15)
Post by: saXx on 05:16 AM - 08/31/15
Hey,

Just a question, wanted to try your settings but I am not able to copy your settings in my Xim Manager. Is there anywhere a tutorial how to copy that 1 by 1  ?

Thanks for any help
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 8/28/15)
Post by: Od1n on 07:37 AM - 08/31/15
every code says "New Firmware (20150816)" so you need that firmware or newer to have the code working
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: q3sebo on 03:11 AM - 09/01/15
Did you assign KB buttons to those unrecognizable buttons within LGS? You have to do that before Xim Manager will recognize them. Look through the OP again, I added a link there that talked about doing this in the mouse software on your computer.

Yes man, i have figured it out and it is ok now, but at first i did not know what LGS means :).
However i use also g502 and using your cfg everything seems to be very very slow for me like using very low sensitivity. I've watched your yt video and how you aim when jumping above opponent and there your movements speed is really different than mine. So this is wierd for me using same mouse, same dpi, same cfg settings, we have different outcome. Maybe the secret is in your LGS mouse settings? For example in your signature D:8000 stands for dpi i quess but what is P:500?. Currently i am using a way higher sens in xim to have my look, aim, movement speed to compensate this "slow motion". I am talking about Destiny.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 8/28/15)
Post by: piiwii on 09:07 PM - 09/01/15
I'm confused, you have running setup in that purple sub config:

(http://i.imgur.com/EYv85du.png)

But turn assist in the blue sub config (but with 0 boost):

(http://i.imgur.com/bKZgwEi.png)

Did you use two different sub configs? If so why? Why can't you combine them?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 8/28/15)
Post by: piiwii on 10:37 PM - 09/01/15
Now that I think about it, why would you use turn assist anyway. Wouldn't it be annoying if the camera kept turning like that? I get why you would use this for things like tank controls but does it make sense for regular movement?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: flybyeu on 05:06 AM - 09/02/15
Love you work! I would have returned xim without your post and help...
Can you please post this extra aim/chess codes to copy?




What would you change your settings to to increase aim assist.
I want the absolute most cheese, op settings available to dominate :)

Thank you, love your work!
You should use a negative acceleration curve for ADS. Something that looks kind of like the one on the right here.(http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i417/computergeek13/Misc/duty/cg13bo2curves5700dpi4520-1.jpg)
I will be showing you guys how to do this with the fire button sometime down the road, when OBs fixes sub settings.


Did I something wrong?
Using the G502 with 2400 DPI your settings working perfetly, not to fast or to slow.
Changing DPI to 8000, its far too fast.
Actually I using HIP at 7.5, ADS 3,3 and Running at 25

Ingame sensitivity is at 10 (maximum)

Nothing wrong, just sounds like you're a Low Sensitivity player. I would suggest raising your DPI setting and lowering your sens. Try something like 4000 DPI with 5.5 hip, 2.2 ADS. In my experience XIM feels smoother with dpi over 3600.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 6/23/15)
Post by: RML on 07:53 AM - 09/02/15
Maybe the secret is in your LGS mouse settings? For example in your signature D:8000 stands for dpi i quess but what is P:500?. Currently i am using a way higher sens in xim to have my look, aim, movement speed to compensate this "slow motion". I am talking about Destiny.

Doesn't have anything to do with my LGS settings. 500 is my polling rate, I prefer 500 over 1000 "less jitters." What mouse pad are you using and what exactly are your sens levels?


Now that I think about it, why would you use turn assist anyway. Wouldn't it be annoying if the camera kept turning like that? I get why you would use this for things like tank controls but does it make sense for regular movement?
It's a matter of preference. I really like using it for tight corners. I definitely don't use it all the time and I probably use it more for PvE then PvP. You do get used to it though if you stick to it.

As far as the colors go, this thread has seen many revisions and updates. Don't let the colors throw you off, I just changed my setup at some point and didn't use the same color that's all.

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 8/28/15)
Post by: q3sebo on 01:41 AM - 09/04/15
I use steelpad qck+ so the soft one. My sens in game is 10. My mouse DPI is 8000. I think it is all i can configure about sens? I do not know if you use acceleration in LGS?
I do not know also how much you have to drag your mouse over the pad to make your move. Maybe you do a big swipes? I do not know if you post some video showing your phisical mouse movement refering to in game movement. Maybe this would explain a little bit more.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 8/28/15)
Post by: Siranbiaks on 07:39 AM - 09/04/15
I am trying to copy and paste these ballistics curves but when I try to do so with the first one for HIP all I get is a bunch of vertical squiggly lines. I called my brother and he said he had the same issue until he noticed you had a link to an "older" version of the firmware. Do you still have that posted here? He said once he used the older version then everything worked perfectly.

Here is my setup:
1) XIM4
2) Logitech G13 gaming keyboard
3) Logitech g300s gaming mouse

That is the exact setup my brother is using and he LOVES it. I hope you can help me get this figured out.

Thanks in advance for any help you may be able to render,
Aaron
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 8/28/15)
Post by: RML on 11:38 AM - 09/04/15
I use steelpad qck+ so the soft one. My sens in game is 10. My mouse DPI is 8000. I think it is all i can configure about sens? I do not know if you use acceleration in LGS?
I do not know also how much you have to drag your mouse over the pad to make your move. Maybe you do a big swipes? I do not know if you post some video showing your phisical mouse movement refering to in game movement. Maybe this would explain a little bit more.

I'm moving my mouse at a velocity of approx. 6-8in. per second MAX. I use a hard surface pad, my experience is that you need a little higher sensitivity with soft pads then with hard pads. I would up your sens by approx. 3-5 if you want to try to match mine.


I am trying to copy and paste these ballistics curves but when I try to do so with the first one for HIP all I get is a bunch of vertical squiggly lines. I called my brother and he said he had the same issue until he noticed you had a link to an "older" version of the firmware. Do you still have that posted here? He said once he used the older version then everything worked perfectly.

Here is my setup:
1) XIM4
2) Logitech G13 gaming keyboard
3) Logitech g300s gaming mouse

That is the exact setup my brother is using and he LOVES it. I hope you can help me get this figured out.

Thanks in advance for any help you may be able to render,
Aaron

There are too many versions of manager out there right now. I would have to wipe my XIM in order to reinstall older versions, then rebuild all of my settings to post curves for old firmware. Then I would have to wipe my XIM to update to the newest manager and do it all over again. That is not an acceptable request lol ... sry. For this reason I will be using the latest firmware for setup purposes. You can update to the latest firmware in the XIM4 release candidate section. I will leave previously posted versions of manager going forward though, so for the purpose of this thread, firmware will date back to 20150816. I will leave that and then post the latest as well in the future.

There is a ballistic curve adapter tool sticky in the XIM4 forum. I've never used it, but it may help you with what you're requesting.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 8/28/15)
Post by: q3sebo on 05:30 AM - 09/05/15
I use a hard surface pad, my experience is that you need a little higher sensitivity with soft pads then with hard pads. I would up your sens by approx. 3-5 if you want to try to match mine.

This is exactly what i did. I currently run with your curves but my buttons layout and hip 50, ads 25, run 80. This is more less comfortable for me.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 8/28/15)
Post by: SA on 12:56 PM - 09/09/15
Hi All, 

New to this forum, have had XIM for about a month now.  So far loving the product but felt it needed some tinkering for Destiny and then found this awesome thread.   Great work being done here for sure, and I tried some of the posted suggestions and so far I've seen an improvement  YAY. 

I have a stupid question i'm sure, but when you say it's posted in the "OP", what is the OP?  LOL.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 8/28/15)
Post by: mist4fun on 01:42 PM - 09/09/15
OP commonly referred to as the original post or original poster (person). In this case he means the first post in the thread.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 8/28/15)
Post by: RML on 07:40 PM - 09/12/15
Thanks mist, I've been Hella busy lately!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 8/28/15)
Post by: Bringer on 08:07 AM - 09/13/15
What does boost do and what does y-x axis?
I'm trying to start customizing but dont even know what they do.
Also what does it mean if you have your ballistic curve negative or positive?

Thanks
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 8/28/15)
Post by: Bringer on 07:20 PM - 09/13/15
Also i have been trying to figure out the differences in curves and am not really a full bottle on it at all.
What would be the difference between the ones you have at the startnof this thread and say these ones?http://xim4.com/community/index.php?topic=31309.msg400143#msg400143
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 8/28/15)
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 02:21 AM - 09/14/15
@RML why don't you copy your Destiny ST and drop the paste code in here? That way people would only have to remap buttons and tweak sensitivitys?

It would take a lot of the "explanation" out of this thread.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 8/28/15)
Post by: thepr0 on 04:09 AM - 09/14/15
This is going to sound weird but i use the cod AW translator fir hip and run its a lot smoother than destiny translator and when i press the nav trigger i activate my destiny ads profile. Sounds retarded but it works good for me i also use turn assist when i run sometimes
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 8/28/15)
Post by: RML on 09:22 AM - 09/14/15
@RML why don't you copy your Destiny ST and drop the paste code in here? That way people would only have to remap buttons and tweak sensitivitys?

It would take a lot of the "explanation" out of this thread.

That feature wasn't available when I started this thread, I may add it though, thanks for the suggestion. One thing I really like about this thread is that it not only helps other members, it gets them thinking. The way I see it. The more people we have on the forum that understand how advanced features work, the better off we will all be with games like Destiny. Unless of course, members don't share. As somewhat of a veteran here, that's where I try to lead by example. I guess it wouldn't hurt to add the whole Destiny code, I'll have to go play the game for a bit though, just to make sure everything's still in place. I haven't played in awhile.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 8/28/15)
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 09:44 AM - 09/14/15
Yea, I'm definitely someone who wants to help people improve their XIMperience.

But you defiantly get slain around here for being one of "The Last Of The Mohicans"

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 8/28/15)
Post by: RML on 09:52 AM - 09/14/15


But you defiantly get slain around here for being one of "The Last Of The Mohicans"

I'm not sure I completely understood that comment, it did make me chuckle a bit though. That's the Mrs. Fav movie btw. 
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 8/28/15)
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 10:58 AM - 09/14/15


But you defiantly get slain around here for being one of "The Last Of The Mohicans"

I'm not sure I completely understood that comment, it did make me chuckle a bit though. That's the Mrs. Fav movie btw. 

Last of the Mohicans is a bawse film.
Or at least it was when I was a kid, possibly has one of the greatest sound tracks of all time. I usually have it playing when I'm stomping pubs..

Truly epic..
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 8/28/15)
Post by: safeman on 06:00 AM - 09/16/15
cheers RML for your time on this config

can anyone help on PS4 i have done every think right but when i try and copy the curves it does not work the line stays where it is. i know how to put the curves in but its not working am useing a galaxy s4 mini with the lastest manager and software 20150816  upgraded from Firmware 20141114
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 8/28/15)
Post by: RML on 10:55 AM - 09/16/15
cheers RML for your time on this config

can anyone help on PS4 i have done every think right but when i try and copy the curves it does not work the line stays where it is. i know how to put the curves in but its not working am useing a galaxy s4 mini with the lastest manager and software 20150816  upgraded from Firmware 20141114

That's odd, tonight I will try to add the "Full" config copy/paste as Yeesh_Dale suggested. Maybe that will work for you.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 8/28/15)
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 11:17 AM - 09/16/15
What you still haven't, cmon man xD. (Jokes).


Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 8/28/15)
Post by: safeman on 11:40 AM - 09/16/15
thx RML i would be very grateful if you could  i have been on this for days searching to fix it maybe its a hardware fault i hope not didnt have a problem with the old firmwire mmmm thx
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 8/28/15)
Post by: RML on 08:16 PM - 09/16/15
thx RML i would be very grateful if you could  i have been on this for days searching to fix it maybe its a hardware fault i hope not didnt have a problem with the old firmwire mmmm thx

Code: [Select]
>>> XIM4 [Destiny] START PASTE >>>
X4C: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:X4C
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

Here you go man, everything you need to be a Destiny Rockstar with the G502 and Nav! Lol ...

Make sure you create a New Destiny config, click the edit button to open it up. Then click on the 3 small dots to the right of the screen. When it opens up simply paste this code and you'll have my entire setup, just like that.  ;)

Just make sure you click on the word "select" above the code to highlight EVERYTHING that you have to copy.


Updated OP as well.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 01:11 AM - 09/17/15
thx RML i would be very grateful if you could  i have been on this for days searching to fix it maybe its a hardware fault i hope not didnt have a problem with the old firmwire mmmm thx

Code: [Select]
>>> XIM4 [Destiny] START PASTE >>>
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Here you go man, everything you need to be a Destiny Rockstar with the G502 and Nav! Lol ...

Make sure you create a New Destiny config, click the edit button to open it up. Then click on the 3 small dots to the right of the screen. When it opens up simply paste this code and you'll have my entire setup, just like that.  ;)

Just make sure you click on the word "select" above the code to highlight EVERYTHING that you have to copy.


Updated OP as well.

Hey, now you can delete your entire first page.

(http://www.crawleyhappytimes.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Jus-Like-That-full-RGB-Clive-Mantle-as-Tommy-Cooper.jpg)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: Pustekuchen on 03:08 AM - 09/17/15

Added 9/16/15, my entire Destiny setup for G502 and Nav all within this one Code! That's right, sensitivities, Ballistic curves, button layout, sub-configs, EVERYTHING!


Can you pls also update your "Hardline Advanced Setup" like your "Destiny: My Advanced Setup"?

thx 4 your work ;)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: safeman on 07:32 AM - 09/17/15
 :P  thank you so much m8 just got to edit now am using the razor abyssus 3500dpi 1000hz and a keyboard once again thanks so much for your hard work  :P :P :P
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 10:06 AM - 09/17/15
:P  thank you so much m8 just got to edit now am using the razor abyssus 3500dpi 1000hz and a keyboard once again thanks so much for your hard work  :P :P :P

+1
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: FortyOne on 08:56 PM - 09/17/15
Is there a reference for those ballistics in firmware 20141114.  I updated and tried out this and ogh god does the mouse feel so good but.............non wireless nav is kinda out of the question for me atm.  Tried pasting this ballistic into the ballistic editor but man it looks like an earthquake hit it. 

Does the 20150816 handle ballistics differently?

Edit: So I went ahead and tried to recreate your balistics for the hip using 2014114 firmware. I cant be 100% sure they are exactly like yours but for anyone who is interested for hip I made my own and for ADS i just used the tuffrabit made(looks almost identical to yours) found here
http://xim4.com/community/index.php?topic=31309.msg400143#msg400143

Hip firmware 2014114
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>>> XIM4 START Paste >>>
X4MB:000C1926323F4D5B6A798A9FB3C8C8C8C8C8C8C8C8
<<< XIM4 END   Paste <<<

ADS firmware 2014114
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>>> XIM4 START Paste >>>
X4MB:000E1C2836424E5A646E78828C96A0AAB4BEC8C8C8
<<< XIM4 END   Paste <<<
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: Zidane on 09:52 AM - 09/18/15
New to XIM Here.

I set up my xim4 yesterday with destiny and everything seems to be working fine, EXCEPT for the menu screen selection  icon (white circle) that you can move with the left controller stick to select your character's inventory, login profile etc.

I would very much like to set up this special configuration, but the latest firmware and manager version I can see that can be downloaded is the 20141114. Can someone please explain how to download this on my android phone as well as on my Xim4?

When I currently go to the 3 dots as described, there's no where to paste this information.

Setting up this config would be awesome, but for the moment, how do I get my in-game "white circle" selector to work with my mouse. I am using a Razer Naga Epic Chroma

Thanks!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: FortyOne on 10:10 AM - 09/18/15
New to XIM Here.

I set up my xim4 yesterday with destiny and everything seems to be working fine, EXCEPT for the menu screen selection  icon (white circle) that you can move with the left controller stick to select your character's inventory, login profile etc.

I would very much like to set up this special configuration, but the latest firmware and manager version I can see that can be downloaded is the 20141114. Can someone please explain how to download this on my android phone as well as on my Xim4?

When I currently go to the 3 dots as described, there's no where to paste this information.

Setting up this config would be awesome, but for the moment, how do I get my in-game "white circle" selector to work with my mouse. I am using a Razer Naga Epic Chroma

Thanks!
The white circle is controlled by the left analog stick on the controller which would be what you use to move.  If your using a Sony nav then its the analog stick on the Sony nav.  If it a keyboard then you control the circle with wasd.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 10:44 AM - 09/18/15
Could you not set WASD movement to Mouse and set that to a profile bound to the menu button or no?

Enabling you to you the "white circle" as a cursor with your mouse?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: FortyOne on 10:53 AM - 09/18/15
Could you not set WASD movement to Mouse and set that to a profile bound to the menu button or no?

Enabling you to you the "white circle" as a cursor with your mouse?
You probably could but you use that circle for everything.  Also the speed of movement on that circle is so slow that I think you would have to do long multiple mouse swipes just to get across the screen.  Personally I would stick with the analog or wasd set up to save confusion.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 11:03 AM - 09/18/15
It's been a while,but is there no cursor speed setting in the options menu?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: Zidane on 10:10 PM - 09/18/15
New to XIM Here.

I set up my xim4 yesterday with destiny and everything seems to be working fine, EXCEPT for the menu screen selection  icon (white circle) that you can move with the left controller stick to select your character's inventory, login profile etc.

I would very much like to set up this special configuration, but the latest firmware and manager version I can see that can be downloaded is the 20141114. Can someone please explain how to download this on my android phone as well as on my Xim4?

When I currently go to the 3 dots as described, there's no where to paste this information.

Setting up this config would be awesome, but for the moment, how do I get my in-game "white circle" selector to work with my mouse. I am using a Razer Naga Epic Chroma

Thanks!
The white circle is controlled by the left analog stick on the controller which would be what you use to move.  If your using a Sony nav then its the analog stick on the Sony nav.  If it a keyboard then you control the circle with wasd.

Ok so I got the white circle part figured out, I can move it with my wasd keys.

Still: how do I download this firmware and the manager? After I click the 3 dots in my config, there's no where to paste the code. Also, will this be different since I don't have a Logitech mouse?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: RML on 02:45 PM - 09/19/15
^ Hopefully you've figured it out already, but, you can download the firmware and manager here.

http://xim4.com/community/index.php?board=77.0



@ Fortyone, thanks for taking the time to share your work with others.  :)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: Zidane on 11:08 AM - 09/20/15
I was able to install the new firmware as well as download the app on my phone from the ADK. Question though: if i use your configuration with my Naga Epic Chroma, what will i need to change?

Also, i see a lot of people like yourself using that proteus logitech mouse, is there a reason?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 11:23 AM - 09/20/15
I was able to install the new firmware as well as download the app on my phone from the ADK. Question though: if i use your configuration with my Naga Epic Chroma, what will i need to change?

Also, i see a lot of people like yourself using that proteus logitech mouse, is there a reason?

For the 12k DPI was mainly the reason why a lot of XIM gamers bought the mouse. But it turns out not many use its full DPI anyway. (Some say it doesn't feel right)

Anything over 5k DPI is good enough for XIM4
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: RML on 01:23 PM - 09/20/15
I personally use the G502 for it's optical sensor and button layout.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 01:36 PM - 09/20/15
I personally use the G502 for it's optical sensor and button layout.

Yea I'm not knocking the mouse either, just repeating what I read in the topic that was created for that mouse when it came out.

It's supposed to be a very good mouse by all accounts.
I probably would of had one by now if it wasn't for the shape.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: Zidane on 09:03 PM - 09/20/15
ok i was able to download the firmware and get the manager installed on my phone. I also ended up purchasing the g502 mouse. However, when i click the 3 dots in the manager, i dont see an area where i can paste your conifg.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: piiwii on 09:56 PM - 09/20/15
There is no "area". You just paste.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: RML on 11:16 PM - 09/20/15
ok i was able to download the firmware and get the manager installed on my phone. I also ended up purchasing the g502 mouse. However, when i click the 3 dots in the manager, i dont see an area where i can paste your conifg.

Are you sure your using the latest firmware and manager, 20150816. If so, after clicking the 3 dots you should open up a drop down and you can then paste the code within the drop down.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 01:37 AM - 09/21/15
ok i was able to download the firmware and get the manager installed on my phone. I also ended up purchasing the g502 mouse. However, when i click the 3 dots in the manager, i dont see an area where i can paste your conifg.

Press the three dots top right in config editing, that will open a drop down section:

In the bottom middle of that "drop down section" there are two symbols, the left middle is a symbol/icon that looks like two squares overlapping each other (this is COPY)

The right middle is a square with an arrow pointing down into it, (this is the one you want PASTE)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: PattyBoy123 on 11:12 AM - 09/22/15
How does it work for the Sprint and Vehicule.. i mean what is the purpose of the turn assist and what it does... if my running setting is set to my shift on my KB, do i have to press anything else to make it work... also i cant bind turn assist anymore dunno why
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: s1yr on 05:17 PM - 09/22/15
Hi, guys! Thanks for an awesome setup! Just thought I would try out the LGS with macros. Do I replace the button mapping from your original post, with the ones found in the link? http://imgur.com/a/VfKnj <- that one
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: RML on 09:23 PM - 09/22/15
How does it work for the Sprint and Vehicule.. i mean what is the purpose of the turn assist and what it does... if my running setting is set to my shift on my KB, do i have to press anything else to make it work... also i cant bind turn assist anymore dunno why

- Turn Assist isn't a Must have for this game, but I personally like using it especially for the sparrow and it does help with tight turns while running.

- If you have your sub config for running setup to activate by pressing shift then that's all you have to do.



Hi, guys! Thanks for an awesome setup! Just thought I would try out the LGS with macros. Do I replace the button mapping from your original post, with the ones found in the link? http://imgur.com/a/VfKnj <- that one


You can either use the same buttons I did in LGS and then assign them in secondary button setup within manager or you can change your buttons in LGS to the Numeric Key pad equivalent. So instead of K1 it would be Kpad1. I'll update the thread again when I get some time. It's hard to keep up with all the updates to this thread, sry. 
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: Fatal on 02:16 PM - 09/24/15
I just wanted to say thank you as well for this. I have a Logitech G700 and was able copy your entire setup in via the first selection (thanks for that!). I then edited the buttons the way I wanted and used your macros as well.
 The game feels much better now playing. Again, thank you!

**Edit to say I am using a PS4 with Razer Anansi Keyboard as well as above mentioned G700.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: thepr0 on 03:01 AM - 09/26/15
RML i need your help bro i have basically same setup just different curves and sensitivity the only issue i have is sprint i have a profile for sprint but sometimes it has a delay when i sprint. I use the sony nav sprint as my activation key for the sprint profile. Can that be the issue? I tried the 200 delay and it still does it not all the time but lets say im sprinting then i jump when i land sometimes i cant sprint for five seconds...
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: RML on 06:40 AM - 09/26/15
I just wanted to say thank you as well for this. I have a Logitech G700 and was able copy your entire setup in via the first selection (thanks for that!). I then edited the buttons the way I wanted and used your macros as well.
 The game feels much better now playing. Again, thank you!

**Edit to say I am using a PS4 with Razer Anansi Keyboard as well as above mentioned G700.


I'm glad it helped you and thanks for your reply, reminds me of why I took the time to post this in the first place. I too had my share of struggles with "Certain" games when joining the XIMNATION.


RML i need your help bro i have basically same setup just different curves and sensitivity the only issue i have is sprint i have a profile for sprint but sometimes it has a delay when i sprint. I use the sony nav sprint as my activation key for the sprint profile. Can that be the issue? I tried the 200 delay and it still does it not all the time but lets say im sprinting then i jump when i land sometimes i cant sprint for five seconds...

Unfortunately I can't help you with that, it's part of the game. If you run for a certain period of time your character will become tired. Here's the kicker, your character can run forever without stopping and show no signs of fatigue. Yet, if you run too long and then stop, your character has to rest for a couple seconds before sprinting again.  ::)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: thepr0 on 07:40 AM - 09/26/15
See i didnt know that im a noob only my 3rd week playing destiny im still learning new things about the game thats good to know
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: Blitzkrieg365 on 06:31 PM - 09/26/15
Hi everyone, just got my XIM4 yesterday, great setup RML. The only thing I'd like to ask about is the mouse speed while on the sparrow. It's very slow, meaning turning the screen to look around is slow and makes the sparrow uncontrollable at high speeds. I'm still a noob with XIM configuration so I can't seem to figure out how to increase the mouse speed the proper way. I've tried tweaking the mouse sensitivity under the sparrow section but there's no noticeable changes.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: RML on 07:45 AM - 09/27/15
Hi everyone, just got my XIM4 yesterday, great setup RML. The only thing I'd like to ask about is the mouse speed while on the sparrow. It's very slow, meaning turning the screen to look around is slow and makes the sparrow uncontrollable at high speeds. I'm still a noob with XIM configuration so I can't seem to figure out how to increase the mouse speed the proper way. I've tried tweaking the mouse sensitivity under the sparrow section but there's no noticeable changes.

Hello Blitzkrieg365, I don't think that Boost is copied when pasting ballistics or others full setups. I use 1000 boost for the Sparrow! First check that your curve matches mine, your sens is similar as well as your DPI (I use 8,000 dpi) then add the boost. If that still doesn't work for you, add more sens or boost or utilize Turn Assist as I do. I can say with 100% certainty that the Sparrow feels great with XIM4 once your settings are proper.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: Brent on 12:39 AM - 09/28/15
Hi guys, I would love some help please as I would love to use RML's setup with the 20150816 Manager but I have an issue, when I finish installing it and I try to log in with Xim4 Manager all the lights on the Xim4 turn White and stay white and the Xim4 manager program tells me that it is not responding any idea what I may be doing wrong, any idea would be greatly appreciated, cheers and thank you
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: thepr0 on 01:33 AM - 09/28/15
This ois probably not the best place to put this i think itll help those who are trying to unlock the Malice rifle and extra mission. Very helpful if you're trying to collect all the Calcified


https://calcified-fragments.herokuapp.com
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: RML on 06:21 AM - 09/28/15
Hi guys, I would love some help please as I would love to use RML's setup with the 20150816 Manager but I have an issue, when I finish installing it and I try to log in with Xim4 Manager all the lights on the Xim4 turn White and stay white and the Xim4 manager program tells me that it is not responding any idea what I may be doing wrong, any idea would be greatly appreciated, cheers and thank you

You should post this in support, you'll get more attention from Devs like OBsIV and mist there. What manager did you upgrade from? It sounds like you may have to make sure the old manager and firmware are completely off whatever your devise is, then download the latest manager after doing a hard reset.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: Grimlock on 05:34 AM - 09/29/15
Hi there i am new Xim4 owner i love your guide one question howe do i set it up if i have a keyboard. can i still use this if i have not a Nav. ?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: RML on 09:03 AM - 09/29/15
Hi there i am new Xim4 owner i love your guide one question howe do i set it up if i have a keyboard. can i still use this if i have not a Nav. ?

Absolutely, just rearrange the buttons in Manager to suit your needs.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: a5thshinobi on 11:00 AM - 09/29/15
Hey thanks for the configuration. I have a question which seems to be bothering me when i'm playing with your configs, I don't know if it's because I just need to adjust it or what not.

My Hip sensitivity seems to be crazy low. I have to pretty much pick up my mouse twice just to do a full 180 turn. At best my turns are maybe 45 degrees at best, moving the mouse 3 inchs. Adjusting the sensitivity doesn't do much with this as it just makes my precision bad, and it still doesn't turn that well.

How can I fix this issue? Is it possible to get something close to FPS on a PC? I'm not use to having to pick up my mouse to make turns.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: RML on 05:36 PM - 09/29/15
Hey thanks for the configuration. I have a question which seems to be bothering me when i'm playing with your configs, I don't know if it's because I just need to adjust it or what not.

My Hip sensitivity seems to be crazy low. I have to pretty much pick up my mouse twice just to do a full 180 turn. At best my turns are maybe 45 degrees at best, moving the mouse 3 inchs. Adjusting the sensitivity doesn't do much with this as it just makes my precision bad, and it still doesn't turn that well.

How can I fix this issue? Is it possible to get something close to FPS on a PC? I'm not use to having to pick up my mouse to make turns.

You should be able to do a 360 easily with this setup without picking up your mouse. What kind of mouse are you using and at what dpi?

Is in game sensitivity set to 10?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: a5thshinobi on 09:56 PM - 09/29/15
Razer Naga, I think it's 5200 dpi. It's basically a spare mouse. Could the low dpi be the reason?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: a5thshinobi on 10:01 PM - 09/29/15
and yes my sensitivity is  up to max (in game)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: RML on 10:30 PM - 09/29/15
Razer Naga, I think it's 5200 dpi. It's basically a spare mouse. Could the low dpi be the reason?

Some mice don't save dpi settings, so make sure you're in fact at your max of 5200. If you are at 5200 dpi then your HIP sensitivity should be set to 38.46 if you want to match my hip sens. Also, don't forget to add 500 Boost.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: VITODATHO on 07:13 AM - 09/30/15
I dont know where to ask. Kan I add to g13 a "ds4 share" button?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: RML on 09:28 AM - 09/30/15
I dont know where to ask. Kan I add to g13 a "ds4 share" button?

Ask here,  ;)

http://xim4.com/community/index.php?board=3.0
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: a5thshinobi on 11:23 AM - 09/30/15
Oh weird, you said for your settings I should set them to 38.2. But when I was playing around with the mouse settings yesterday I set it up all the way to 300. I'm able to turn fully now, slightly sensitive it's not something I couldn't get use too.

Another question I have is, I notice a little bit of shutter on the horizontal mouse movement (looking left to right). This is normal for the xim4? It's not too big of a deal but it doesn't feel as smooth as playing on a PC.   
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: kilo_november on 10:45 PM - 09/30/15
I read this in your OP

Here's an example of how to match my sensitivity's If you're using a different DPI then I am.
Your DPI 12000 / my DPI 8000 = 1.5
Your HIP sens / 1.5 = My Hip sens
Your ADS sens / 1.5 = My ADS sens

I'm pretty terrible with figures, can you clarify the calculations?

I have an 8200 DPI mouse, so 1.025 the sensitivity of yours? So to match your hip sensitivity (listed as 25 if I understand your OP correctly) to my mouse for example would be a hip sensitivity of 25.625 (rounded to 25.6)?

Also, just wanted to say awesome post. Very thorough and informative, nice work.

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: RML on 11:39 PM - 09/30/15
Oh weird, you said for your settings I should set them to 38.2. But when I was playing around with the mouse settings yesterday I set it up all the way to 300. I'm able to turn fully now, slightly sensitive it's not something I couldn't get use too.

Another question I have is, I notice a little bit of shutter on the horizontal mouse movement (looking left to right). This is normal for the xim4? It's not too big of a deal but it doesn't feel as smooth as playing on a PC.

You should never have to raise your sensitivity that high at 5200 DPI. That shuttering effect you feel is probably you instantaneously exceeding the turn cap. Try a lower sens with slower consistent mouse swipes. With XIM slow steady movement is best. I still wonder if your mouse is holding that dpi though.


I read this in your OP

Here's an example of how to match my sensitivity's If you're using a different DPI then I am.
Your DPI 12000 / my DPI 8000 = 1.5
Your HIP sens / 1.5 = My Hip sens
Your ADS sens / 1.5 = My ADS sens

I'm pretty terrible with figures, can you clarify the calculations?

I have an 8200 DPI mouse, so 1.025 the sensitivity of yours? So to match your hip sensitivity (listed as 25 if I understand your OP correctly) to my mouse for example would be a hip sensitivity of 25.625 (rounded to 25.6)?

Also, just wanted to say awesome post. Very thorough and informative, nice work.



Use this link to calculate your DPI -  http://www.users.on.net/~frankros/DPI-calc.php

your HIP should be 24.39 @ 8200 dpi.  ;)

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: pdogg6 on 12:10 PM - 10/06/15
Thanks for keeping this up to date RML!  Unfortunately I haven't upgraded to 8/16/15 firmware yet because of losing wireless Nav.  Hope they fix that soon so I can actually be an RC tester LOL.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: Sindonesia on 01:42 PM - 10/06/15
Thanks for sharing your setup!  The only change I had to make was to ADS,  I had to move it to 11.  Now it's perfect for me.  Thanks again!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: CMS707 on 10:11 PM - 10/07/15
FIrst off, I just got my Xim4 3 days ago so I'm pretty new at all of this.

I followed your guide and was able to setup hip and ads no problem, everything feels great after some minor sens tweaks for my liking.

The issue im having is setting up the run subclass, I set everything up but it just seems not to be working.  I noticed there is no hold tab on my manager.  Is this what could be causing this? Seems like the toggle wasnt working either.

Im on latest firmware and manager, has there been a new manager update since this tutorial has been updated?  Im confused because there is some things that are different on my manager than your screenshots.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 9/16/15)
Post by: RML on 10:56 AM - 10/08/15
FIrst off, I just got my Xim4 3 days ago so I'm pretty new at all of this.

I followed your guide and was able to setup hip and ads no problem, everything feels great after some minor sens tweaks for my liking.

The issue im having is setting up the run subclass, I set everything up but it just seems not to be working.  I noticed there is no hold tab on my manager.  Is this what could be causing this? Seems like the toggle wasnt working either.

Im on latest firmware and manager, has there been a new manager update since this tutorial has been updated?  Im confused because there is some things that are different on my manager than your screenshots.

I just updated practically EVERYTHING in the OP. I found some button assignment issues that I missed somewhere along the line with all the updates I've made to this thread.

I tested everything out just now and everything works perfectly. It sounds like you were a victim of the button error I discovered. Copy/Paste whatever codes you were having issues with i.e. Sparrow and see if it works now.

All - please let me know if I missed anything, the pics should all match my layout and the codes as well now.

Peace!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: joongpilpak on 04:26 AM - 10/10/15
Just got mine. The shame I feel for apparently being the only person on the internet who has not a single clue where to paste these codes. I click the three dots as instructed and I promise there is no where to paste it. If anyone can help (in dip @#$% detail) this chicken McNooblet out I would be much appreciative.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: RML on 08:57 AM - 10/10/15
Just got mine. The shame I feel for apparently being the only person on the internet who has not a single clue where to paste these codes. I click the three dots as instructed and I promise there is no where to paste it. If anyone can help (in dip @#$% detail) this chicken McNooblet out I would be much appreciative.

Make sure you are running the latest manager/firmware, found here -

http://xim4.com/community/index.php?board=77.0
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: Brutalimp on 12:29 AM - 10/11/15
I took your config and just tweaked the buttons to fit my needs and WHAT A DIFFERENCE!!

It just took me a 10-30 minutes to adjust and now I feel so agile and accurate, its insane. I cant thank you enough for sharing this with the community!!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: RML on 09:11 AM - 10/11/15
FYI ...

How to copy/paste ballistics (for the new members).

(http://i.imgur.com/u9ndGva.jpg)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: Lurkin374 on 06:35 PM - 10/11/15
I never could get the running and vehicle setting working. but I use the rest of the settings and work pretty good.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: thepr0 on 02:38 AM - 10/12/15
Im using half of your setup i just have problems sniping the aim assist gets too strong sometimes. I dont know of its just me but i always aim for the head that could be my problem. If my centering is on point with the target its good its only when i have to re-adjust the scope or move it from one side to another and thats when aim assist gives me problems
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15
Post by: Vorda on 05:13 AM - 10/12/15
Het, thanks for the guide!
There are a few things unclear for me:
- the lgs imgur link does not work. No idea what lgs even is.
- I can't figure out exactly how the heavy weapon and vehicle stuff works, with the profile swapping.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: RML on 10:24 AM - 10/12/15
I never could get the running and vehicle setting working. but I use the rest of the settings and work pretty good.

Sry guys, I really wish OBsIV would spend some time making a video for advanced settings. I have already started a thread where "At some point" I will explain these things in further detail, when I get the time. Truth is it's a pain though and I barely have the time to keep up with this thread. I think a lot of people around here have a "Tinker till you learn" mentality. After all, that's how I learned. Unless you only play COD, Advanced settings is something you should familiarize yourself with.


Im using half of your setup i just have problems sniping the aim assist gets too strong sometimes. I dont know of its just me but i always aim for the head that could be my problem. If my centering is on point with the target its good its only when i have to re-adjust the scope or move it from one side to another and thats when aim assist gives me problems

Yeah, aim assist is pretty bad with this game. It literally shocks me when people are like "Hey how do I get MORE aim assist?" They obviously are using an automatic weapon and don't care about going for the head. My ADS curve is there to combat aim assist, so it should be better for you then the ST would be without it.

 There's two things you can do. 1.) Make the curve a little more aggressive, or 2). Just keep raising your ADS sensitivity until you feel you have more movement over the target.

I would go with #2 if I were you, that curve should do the trick. It's just a matter of finding the right sens to push through aim assist with it. That may mean your ADS sens "while off target" feels a little excessive. But while on target gives you the extra movement you desire. The whole idea of that curve is to help track targets and push through that initial sticky wall you hit when doing so.

I find that without it, I sometimes can't catch the target without added movement which then leads to over shooting the target sometimes.


Het, thanks for the guide!
There are a few things unclear for me:
- the lgs imgur link does not work. No idea what lgs even is.
- I can't figure out exactly how the heavy weapon and vehicle stuff works, with the profile swapping.

I made that link public and it seems to work fine for me, anyone else having problems accessing it?

Again, I will explain Advanced Settings in further detail at some point. It's ALOT of work!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: Vorda on 11:55 AM - 10/12/15
Image works now, now it all makes sense to me. Thanks!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: Jezzer on 04:35 PM - 10/12/15
Nice guide, very fast and agile.
Do have an issue tho. When using a side arm and ADS it seems to lock above the head, missing alot of shots. And almost impossible to adjust while firing.
Any idea what setting i can change for that?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: MuRRe on 03:15 AM - 10/13/15
Maybe a stupid question, do you need that Playtation thing or can you do with an ordinary keyboard and still use this setup?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: RML on 06:17 AM - 10/13/15
Image works now, now it all makes sense to me. Thanks!

Great, thanks for letting me know.


Nice guide, very fast and agile.
Do have an issue tho. When using a side arm and ADS it seems to lock above the head, missing alot of shots. And almost impossible to adjust while firing.
Any idea what setting i can change for that?

Are you using my ADS ballistic? If so, try adding more sensitivity to it until you feel you have better control.


Maybe a stupid question, do you need that Playtation thing or can you do with an ordinary keyboard and still use this setup?

Not a stupid question at all, and NO you do not need the Sony Nav. You can copy my setup then just rearrange the buttons to suit your own personal needs. Just make sure you follow my lead if you want the 1 button super or if you're using my LGS settings.


Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: RML on 06:21 AM - 10/13/15
I just added a link to the OP to another thread where I've started collecting info for you guys and also just posted a How To video. Check it out if your interested. There will be more videos on Advanced Settings to come in the future. So keep an eye out if you need some help! I will try to accommodate any special request, so let me know what you're struggling with.

Here's the link.

http://xim4.com/community/index.php?topic=41264.msg510100#msg510100
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: Loki on 07:05 AM - 10/13/15
I just added a link to the OP to another thread where I've started collecting info for you guys and also just posted a How To video. Check it out if your interested. There will be more videos on Advanced Settings to come in the future. So keep an eye out if you need some help! I will try to accommodate any special request, so let me know what you're struggling with.

Here's the link.

http://xim4.com/community/index.php?topic=41264.msg510100#msg510100

Thanks for all the hard work, question\request. I would love to switch out a few buttons on your setup, is there anyway you can create a list of things we must make sure we do (hoykey, activations, etc..) to allow your setup to work as designed. For example: I would like to switch, reload, change weapon, jump and crouch. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: RML on 09:53 AM - 10/13/15
You're killing me loki, just killing me!  ;)

Seriously, I get where you're coming from. I may work on something when I have time to think it thru. Basically though, I think the biggest thing as far as buttons go, is making sure you remap your sub config activation keys to match whatever you chg. with the layout.

Also, remember I'm using the Green Thumb button settings in game. If you use Green Thumb and then DONOT change any of the Secondary button assignments, then I think you'll be ok. Like I said though, I'd really have to give it some thought to say "that'll work" 100%.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: Loki on 10:00 AM - 10/13/15
You're killing me loki, just killing me!  ;)

Seriously, I get where you're coming from. I may work on something when I have time to think it thru. Basically though, I think the biggest thing as far as buttons go, is making sure you remap your sub config activation keys to match whatever you chg. with the layout.

Also, remember I'm using the Green Thumb button settings in game. If you use Green Thumb and then DONOT change any of the Secondary button assignments, then I think you'll be ok. Like I said though, I'd really have to give it some thought to say "that'll work" 100%.

 ;D Thank You, I think I can get use to your setup, practice makes perfect.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: Vorda on 05:05 AM - 10/14/15
For info: I found it a good addition to add a config where my mouse controls left stick, for everything related to options and menu. It allows to rearrange X to left button, triangle to right, etc.

Activators are either toggle button or the button for Options. Deactivation is done by esc/closing menu.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: divisionbell77 on 09:46 AM - 10/15/15
Do any of the in game button configurations you can pick make the sprint button hold instead of toggle?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: pox on 09:36 AM - 10/16/15
Hi!  I just got my XIM4 and need help.  I am running the newest firmware option, and I do not see the copy/paste code option when you click the "three dots" in the settings.  I even watched the youtube video and I do not see the options that you do when you click on the dots.

Any help?

Thanks

Edit:  Just kidding I figured it out -- I didn't have the latest firmware.  The firmware link I was going to had a different date showing as the newest.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: mist4fun on 09:41 AM - 10/16/15
Hi pox, welcome to the community. Could you go to Manager's menu->about and check your firmware version? 20150816 is the latest RC build in beta. This build supports config copy/paste. If you're not using this build then please see below.

Please note that upgrading requires a factory restore which will wipe your device. You will also need to install the new Manager, unpair and re pair your bluetooth device. Please read the instructions in each thread below.

20150816 Manager: http://xim4.com/community/index.php?topic=41268.0
20150816 Firmware: http://xim4.com/community/index.php?topic=41267.0
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: Nightrous on 05:38 PM - 10/16/15
RML - You have made PVP in this game fun for me with your profile.  I salute you.  Thank you very much for taking the time to share your wealth of info.  Loving this XIM4!  Worth every penny!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: Atlasprime on 07:51 PM - 10/16/15
Ditto. I just updated my firmware and manager. It's fresh but I feel it will pay dividends after some muscle usage. First 2 matches at 4KD
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: saltyplum on 06:46 AM - 10/17/15
Alrighty, just want to say that I love this thread RML, even though I haven't been able to get it to work for me yet. lol

It took a while but I finally figured out how to do the copy/paste business, read through copious amounts of posts and pages, but this 21050816 build still eludes me.

I've d/loaded it, but as soon as I open it, it wants to update and brings me to 20141114 build. I can't seem to bypass the update. I've tried disabling mobile data and wifi but still it wants to update. When I follow your video from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP1aJtPiEvs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP1aJtPiEvs), the copypastewholesetup, at the 3.30min mark, my manager doesn't have the copy and paste icons like yours does.

What on earth am I doing wrong? Would very much like some help with this please folks.

Any help/advice appreciated. Cheers
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: RML on 08:05 AM - 10/17/15
Alrighty, just want to say that I love this thread RML, even though I haven't been able to get it to work for me yet. lol

It took a while but I finally figured out how to do the copy/paste business, read through copious amounts of posts and pages, but this 21050816 build still eludes me.

I've d/loaded it, but as soon as I open it, it wants to update and brings me to 20141114 build. I can't seem to bypass the update. I've tried disabling mobile data and wifi but still it wants to update. When I follow your video from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP1aJtPiEvs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP1aJtPiEvs), the copypastewholesetup, at the 3.30min mark, my manager doesn't have the copy and paste icons like yours does.

What on earth am I doing wrong? Would very much like some help with this please folks.

Any help/advice appreciated. Cheers

Hello saltyplum, you have to make sure you completely wipe the old manager/firmware from your device/computer before installing the new. Make sure you follow the directions OBsIV gave when upgrading manager. It varies by device so you'll have to pay close attention to that.

Also, it is what XIM calls a breaking change, this means that you will have to choose "factory restore" when the option pops up. As mist stated above, a factory restore will erase all of your configs! :(
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: saltyplum on 05:08 PM - 10/17/15
Thanks for the reply RML.

So simply uninstall the version I have, THEN install the 21050816 build? Gotcha. Will I need to turn off mobile data or wifi or anything like that also?

When you say "factory restore"....do you mean of the XIM4? And to do this I'll need to d/load and use their Flash Tool, is that correct? Not too worried about this resetting the config, only have a basic one set up atm so losing it isn't that big a deal.

Ummm...can't find a "Flash Tool" anywhere on their d/loads section. Am I missing something? And I think I need a Dummies guide lol cause some of this is just not getting through to me. The "manager" build is for my phone, thats fine, the "firmware" build will be for my Xim4 I presume....but how do I get it "ON" to the Xim4 after d/loading?

Sorry for all the q's, just really want to understand all this.

<edit> Oh and another question :) If...once successfully doing all this, are the separate/individual code blocks for Hip, Ads, Running etc in first post....are they contained within the "all in one" code? So if I'm using a KB and not the Nav thingy, I need to use the individual codes?

<edit2> Aaaand another question...you mention that "you will have to choose 'factory restore' when the option pops up"....in what sequence of events does that happen? When I'm uninstalling the manager or the firmware? Confused I am.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: Atlasprime on 01:16 PM - 10/18/15
Thanks for the reply RML.

So simply uninstall the version I have, THEN install the 21050816 build? Gotcha. Will I need to turn off mobile data or wifi or anything like that also?

When you say "factory restore"....do you mean of the XIM4? And to do this I'll need to d/load and use their Flash Tool, is that correct? Not too worried about this resetting the config, only have a basic one set up atm so losing it isn't that big a deal.

Ummm...can't find a "Flash Tool" anywhere on their d/loads section. Am I missing something? And I think I need a Dummies guide lol cause some of this is just not getting through to me. The "manager" build is for my phone, thats fine, the "firmware" build will be for my Xim4 I presume....but how do I get it "ON" to the Xim4 after d/loading?

Sorry for all the q's, just really want to understand all this.

<edit> Oh and another question :) If...once successfully doing all this, are the separate/individual code blocks for Hip, Ads, Running etc in first post....are they contained within the "all in one" code? So if I'm using a KB and not the Nav thingy, I need to use the individual codes?

<edit2> Aaaand another question...you mention that "you will have to choose 'factory restore' when the option pops up"....in what sequence of events does that happen? When I'm uninstalling the manager or the firmware? Confused I am.

I use a transfer cable to pipe my inputs through my PC so needless to say I use the windows desktop version of the manager. As far as the firmware... you need to do that on your PC. unplug everything, then while holding the pair button on the back of the xim, plug it into your PC. It will glow blue. Now open the firmware download for 20150816. Select restore factory defaults. This will wipe the device and install 20150816.

From here obtain the 20150816 manager for your mobile device. Once installed you should be able to follow the rest of the OP.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: Atlasprime on 01:24 PM - 10/18/15
To quickly follow up: Here is the link to the 201508 RC firmware.

http://xim4.com/community/index.php?topic=41267.0

Again, this is done on your PC.

What mobile device do you have? Android? iOS? You can grab those here.
http://xim4.com/community/index.php?topic=41268.0
 I believe you can simply click the android link using the device browser... iOS appears to require some sort of dev. testing account to use this build.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: saltyplum on 04:29 PM - 10/18/15
Thanks for the info Atlas.

Just to make sure I've got it...

1. Unplug all the cables from the Xim,
2. hold down the pair button and plug into the pc (using the micro usb port yeah?),
3. wait for it to glow blue,
4. then release pair button,
5. then open the 20150816 firmware d/load (is this firmware actually the FlashTool I've read about btw?)
6. I should get an option to "restore factory defaults", this will wipe device and install 20150816
7. open up (previously installed) 20150816 manager on phone
8. <hopefully> be able to follow rest of OP :)

Thanks for the explicit instructions, Atlas. It just felt like there were some things/steps I was missing. Gonna try this now, and I think this was what I needed.

Only other question atm still remains, if anyone can answer please, the individual codes from RML in OP (the ones that come after the "all-in-one" code) for Hip, Ads, etc....are they contained "within" the "all-in-one"? So if there were something I didn't want with the all-in-one, I can just use the indi codes?

Thanks again in advance, appreciate the help.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: jander13 on 07:32 AM - 10/19/15
Hello RML

Thanks for your hard work, I recently purchased xim4 and I must say your hard work to make Destiny better on xim is one of the reason I decided to purchase it.

I wanted to ask if I copy paste your includes everything code will it work with ps4? or is there anything specific i have to do in order to get it working properly on the ps4

Thanks!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: Loki on 09:19 AM - 10/19/15
You're killing me loki, just killing me!  ;)

Seriously, I get where you're coming from. I may work on something when I have time to think it thru. Basically though, I think the biggest thing as far as buttons go, is making sure you remap your sub config activation keys to match whatever you chg. with the layout.

Also, remember I'm using the Green Thumb button settings in game. If you use Green Thumb and then DONOT change any of the Secondary button assignments, then I think you'll be ok. Like I said though, I'd really have to give it some thought to say "that'll work" 100%.

This setup is nice, it got really good after I set my mouse up like yours is (wrong buttons everywhere  ;D )..........I tried it for the first time last night. I do need to change some buttons around though. I want to switch grenade and reload or would that be a problem?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: Brutalimp on 04:31 PM - 10/19/15
Hey RML I dont know if I am blind or something, but I cant find what DPI you use on your mouse.

Thanks
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: Loki on 07:19 PM - 10/19/15
How do I get my mouse to say KPad 1, KPad 2, etc.... like it does in your mouse profile? I also was unable to return back to orbit by holding Y (scroll down), I need to hold it. How do I hold a scroll down, I thought I could push the scroll wheel in, it worked about half way and then stopped. Do anyone have the LGS Mouse settings, I thought I set it up correct but if I select a button on the Xim and press a button on my mouse it doesn't say KPad anything, except for the multi buttons I created? Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: Loki on 07:30 PM - 10/19/15
In the Destiny thread you said Quote: IMPORTANT!! Some of my setup will not work properly without following my instructions for mouse settings within LGS.

What are all of your mouse settings you have in LGS, I see in your Xim4 settings everything has a KPad 1-8 settings, how do you label your mouse as KPad 1-8? Can anyone help me with setting this up properly, everything isn't working correct for me, it might be easier for me to just go through his steps to get it to work and not use his copy and paste his personal settings config.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: RML on 08:34 PM - 10/19/15
In the Destiny thread you said Quote: IMPORTANT!! Some of my setup will not work properly without following my instructions for mouse settings within LGS.

What are all of your mouse settings you have in LGS, I see in your Xim4 settings everything has a KPad 1-8 settings, how do you label your mouse as KPad 1-8? Can anyone help me with setting this up properly, everything isn't working correct for me, it might be easier for me to just go through his steps to get it to work and not use his copy and paste his personal settings config.

All my settings in LGS are shown in the Imgur pics. Kpad 1-8 are just the numbers on the right side of the keyboard. I use those because I don't even use a keyboard. I only use a keypad because I don't need that many buttons and it takes up very little space. If you use the numbers on the right side of your laptop or keyboard it will be the same.


How do I get my mouse to say KPad 1, KPad 2, etc.... like it does in your mouse profile? I also was unable to return back to orbit by holding Y (scroll down), I need to hold it. How do I hold a scroll down, I thought I could push the scroll wheel in, it worked about half way and then stopped. Do anyone have the LGS Mouse settings, I thought I set it up correct but if I select a button on the Xim and press a button on my mouse it doesn't say KPad anything, except for the multi buttons I created? Thanks in advance.

For "Go to Orbit" I'm actually using the scroll wheel button (press it in), not scroll wheel down. I assigned the macro as Kpad 7 (secondary select) and Kpad 8 (secondary Y). So just add the delays between 7 and 8 in LGS like I did, then make sure they're setup correctly within Manager under secondary buttons. Again, if you're using my layout, manager is good to go!

Hey RML I dont know if I am blind or something, but I cant find what DPI you use on your mouse.

Thanks

Lol ... It's in my signature, my friend.  ;)


Hello RML

Thanks for your hard work, I recently purchased xim4 and I must say your hard work to make Destiny better on xim is one of the reason I decided to purchase it.

I wanted to ask if I copy paste your includes everything code will it work with ps4? or is there anything specific i have to do in order to get it working properly on the ps4

Thanks!

Everything will work fine with PS4, the only difference is the button designs, i.e. X on PS4 is A on XB1 I believe.


Hope that helps guys!


Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: Loki on 12:00 PM - 10/20/15
In the Destiny thread you said Quote: IMPORTANT!! Some of my setup will not work properly without following my instructions for mouse settings within LGS.

What are all of your mouse settings you have in LGS, I see in your Xim4 settings everything has a KPad 1-8 settings, how do you label your mouse as KPad 1-8? Can anyone help me with setting this up properly, everything isn't working correct for me, it might be easier for me to just go through his steps to get it to work and not use his copy and paste his personal settings config.

All my settings in LGS are shown in the Imgur pics. Kpad 1-8 are just the numbers on the right side of the keyboard. I use those because I don't even use a keyboard. I only use a keypad because I don't need that many buttons and it takes up very little space. If you use the numbers on the right side of your laptop or keyboard it will be the same.


How do I get my mouse to say KPad 1, KPad 2, etc.... like it does in your mouse profile? I also was unable to return back to orbit by holding Y (scroll down), I need to hold it. How do I hold a scroll down, I thought I could push the scroll wheel in, it worked about half way and then stopped. Do anyone have the LGS Mouse settings, I thought I set it up correct but if I select a button on the Xim and press a button on my mouse it doesn't say KPad anything, except for the multi buttons I created? Thanks in advance.

For "Go to Orbit" I'm actually using the scroll wheel button (press it in), not scroll wheel down. I assigned the macro as Kpad 7 (secondary select) and Kpad 8 (secondary Y). So just add the delays between 7 and 8 in LGS like I did, then make sure they're setup correctly within Manager under secondary buttons. Again, if you're using my layout, manager is good to go!

Hey RML I dont know if I am blind or something, but I cant find what DPI you use on your mouse.

Thanks

Lol ... It's in my signature, my friend.  ;)


Hello RML

Thanks for your hard work, I recently purchased xim4 and I must say your hard work to make Destiny better on xim is one of the reason I decided to purchase it.

I wanted to ask if I copy paste your includes everything code will it work with ps4? or is there anything specific i have to do in order to get it working properly on the ps4

Thanks!

Everything will work fine with PS4, the only difference is the button designs, i.e. X on PS4 is A on XB1 I believe.


Hope that helps guys!


Thanks RML, You never answered my question, Can I switch grenade and reload without causing a problem. I would also like to switch your Y (SD) button with the Player highlight (K2) button?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: liquidice on 02:44 PM - 10/20/15
RML thanks for this guide. I haven't gotten a chance to set it up yet, but considering I've done no customization of my Destiny profile, I'm excited to see how much of a difference this makes, especially with auto-aim (Why Bungie decided this was necessary and not optional, I'll never know).

On a side note, how many people play with the Playstation Nav Controller? I'm going to pick one up tonight to see how I like it with your setup, but it seems that a keyboard or gamepad (I'm using logitech g13) would have more buttons. The only positive I can see is that you have a trigger with the left hand.

Thanks again, can't wait to try this out!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: Loki on 05:30 PM - 10/20/15
RML thanks for this guide. I haven't gotten a chance to set it up yet, but considering I've done no customization of my Destiny profile, I'm excited to see how much of a difference this makes, especially with auto-aim (Why Bungie decided this was necessary and not optional, I'll never know).

On a side note, how many people play with the Playstation Nav Controller? I'm going to pick one up tonight to see how I like it with your setup, but it seems that a keyboard or gamepad (I'm using logitech g13) would have more buttons. The only positive I can see is that you have a trigger with the left hand.

Thanks again, can't wait to try this out!

I like the Nav, the grip sucks (it doesn't have any). I bought some Sugru putty and made a hand grip on the Nav, I really love it now.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: liquidice on 05:48 PM - 10/20/15
Quote
I like the Nav, the grip sucks (it doesn't have any). I bought some Sugru putty and made a hand grip on the Nav, I really love it now.

Can you post an image of where you added the Sugru to the controller?
I'm excited to try it out tonight!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: Loki on 08:28 AM - 10/21/15
Quote
I like the Nav, the grip sucks (it doesn't have any). I bought some Sugru putty and made a hand grip on the Nav, I really love it now.

Can you post an image of where you added the Sugru to the controller?
I'm excited to try it out tonight!

(http://i.imgur.com/m22dMIH.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/gdCsLQ8.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: Atlasprime on 10:41 AM - 10/21/15
Thanks for the info Atlas.

Just to make sure I've got it...

1. Unplug all the cables from the Xim,
2. hold down the pair button and plug into the pc (using the micro usb port yeah?),
3. wait for it to glow blue,
4. then release pair button,
5. then open the 20150816 firmware d/load (is this firmware actually the FlashTool I've read about btw?)
6. I should get an option to "restore factory defaults", this will wipe device and install 20150816
7. open up (previously installed) 20150816 manager on phone
8. <hopefully> be able to follow rest of OP :)

Thanks for the explicit instructions, Atlas. It just felt like there were some things/steps I was missing. Gonna try this now, and I think this was what I needed.

Only other question atm still remains, if anyone can answer please, the individual codes from RML in OP (the ones that come after the "all-in-one" code) for Hip, Ads, etc....are they contained "within" the "all-in-one"? So if there were something I didn't want with the all-in-one, I can just use the indi codes?

Thanks again in advance, appreciate the help.

They are all contained in the first all in one offering. :-)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: saltyplum on 04:26 PM - 10/21/15
Thanks Atlas,

but I guess what I meant was that if there were some aspects of the "all-in-one" code that I didn't want to use, then I'd need to use the individual codes for Hip, Ads, etc yeah?

Also, I know RML and some others use those Nav thingies, but I'm happy with my keyboard....the code(s) still function okay for KB right?

Cheers
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: djay on 08:02 PM - 10/25/15
I believe it is. I'm also using keyboard and mouse. Just try it, and you'll love it, thanks to RML
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: enigmacmpr on 10:46 PM - 10/25/15
I have been using the XIM4 for a while with the standard Destiny setup. I am using the G13 and G502 on the PS4. I wanted to request if anyone can send me an invite to watch a fully optimized setup in action. On another note, I tried raiding last week and kept dying on the jumping puzzle as I don't seem to have the fine control for the jumps. Either I was undershooting or overshooting.

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: piiwii on 11:03 PM - 10/25/15
Quote
I like the Nav, the grip sucks (it doesn't have any). I bought some Sugru putty and made a hand grip on the Nav, I really love it now.

Can you post an image of where you added the Sugru to the controller?
I'm excited to try it out tonight!

(http://i.imgur.com/m22dMIH.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/gdCsLQ8.jpg?1)


Oh dear god. I guess if it works for you...:)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: Loki on 11:06 AM - 10/26/15
Quote
I like the Nav, the grip sucks (it doesn't have any). I bought some Sugru putty and made a hand grip on the Nav, I really love it now.

Can you post an image of where you added the Sugru to the controller?
I'm excited to try it out tonight!

(http://i.imgur.com/m22dMIH.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/gdCsLQ8.jpg?1)


Oh dear god. I guess if it works for you...:)

It does, I put some of the Sagru on the back of the Nav, placed the nav in my hand and griped it to show where I needed to create my grips, once I did that I just build up around it and I had my perfect grip. The smooth surface way would get annoying after a while, I noticed I kept trying to get the perfect grip, with the grips I know where my perfect grip is.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: spamthulhu on 07:00 AM - 10/28/15
Just one question.  I would love to use the thumbstick from PS4 on my XBOX one.  Is that possible through the Xim 4?  I would hate to spend the money and find out it won't work.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: Thrashy on 02:23 AM - 10/30/15
Hello all,

I'm new to the community here and was wondering if anyone else is also using a mouse + keyboard setup and doesn't have a mouse / keyboard that internally can store macros.

I'm using a Razer Deathadder Chroma (I just don't like the ergonomics of the G502) together with a Razer Blackwidow Chroma and therefore can't use any macros. I hence am struggling with useful key assignments for getting the different Destiny Sub Configs activated properly in the XIM ... like activating / deactivating the sparrow config ... same goes for sprint and ADS.

Right now I activate the Sprint Sub Config by pressing the Middle Mouse Button (my sprint button).
Deactivation is triggered by ADSing or moving backwards. When I don't hold the ADS button down anymore I automatically switch back to the HIP Sub Config.
For de-/activating the Sparrow Sub Config I have not yet found a good solution, thus I'm not using it at all. I normally just push my sprint key while sitting on the sparrow to get the Sprint Sub Config activated as it works pretty well for me while being on the sparrow as well.

Has anyone got a recommendation for me on this concern?

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: hsjyes on 07:35 PM - 11/01/15
I ended up just using all the curves individually as i use a KB/M.

Though, a strange problem has occurred. In the bindings I select crouch as the C key on the KB but it doesn't work, when I map the C key to the highlight character selection, it then crouches.

Any idea why this may happen?

Cheers.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: Conti027 on 02:44 PM - 11/02/15
I hope this isn't a stupid question but why the 8000 dpi?
You have the Logitech G502 that goes up to 12k dpi, I thought with the Xim you wanted your dpi as high as it can go.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: flst81 on 06:06 PM - 11/02/15
Some say that just get a better feel @8000. personal preference really.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: pox on 12:17 PM - 11/04/15
Was hoping for some help.  I can't seem to get my y axis look to be fast enough.  I have hunters blink jump over me and by the time I can turn I'm dead.

It doesn't seem like the y axis is -that- slow with a controller.  I've tried adjusting the hip sensitivity but haven't had any success, and really, I don't want the x axis to be much faster anyways.

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: pox on 01:43 PM - 11/04/15
Here's the other thing that is really annoying...  I seem to just get absolutely dominated at close in shotgun play.  Screen doesn't scroll fast enough, gun seems to jump.. I don't know.  It's great at medium range / pulse rifle play. 
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: R3MiX on 04:05 PM - 11/04/15
Was hoping for some help.  I can't seem to get my y axis look to be fast enough.  I have hunters blink jump over me and by the time I can turn I'm dead.

It doesn't seem like the y axis is -that- slow with a controller.  I've tried adjusting the hip sensitivity but haven't had any success, and really, I don't want the x axis to be much faster anyways.

Any thoughts?

What I did to counter situations like this is bind my LEFT and RIGHT pan button on my G502 mouse wheel. Helps me significantly. What I mean by this is Left pan would be look/turn left and Right pan would be look/turn right. How I achieved this setting? In XIM manager under the keyboard tab ( If I'm not mistaken )  /right stick. I binded those actions to the mouse wheel pan buttons. Hope this helps.

BTW are you on PS4? If you are add me

oXo_R3MiX_oXo
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: Kochise on 05:47 PM - 11/04/15
RML I've been using your setup with some tweaks for sometime and they are great.  Now that I'm getting more into sniping I'm having some issues.  In the heat of battle, especially ToO, I swipe to quickly or over accelerate which causes a couple things:

1.  Arced reticle path instead of nice straight line
2.  "Flashing Lights" or gone beyond max turn speed. (I know of destiny's for design after following mist, you and others post)

Your normal ADS curve is great for me in all things but sniping.  So in the last couple of days I've setup another config for sniping starting with your ADS and tweaking:

1.  I can adjust the Y/X ratio to get a flatter reticle path but then of course it feels to slow especially when trying to track a Jumping player. So that's not working.
2. Lowering the sensitivity doesn't work b/c I'm to slow to get on target
3. I've taken your ADS and flat lined the curve at about 50 to limit the speed which is the best I've come up with.

So at a loss I'm and hoping you can come up with a curve to help me.  This is no fault of anyone's but mine by not limiting my scoped swipe speed.  But maybe you can suggest a curve?

Not at home yet but will post curves when home.

Running G502
DPI - 12k @ 1k polling. 
ADS Mouse Sense at 5
Snipe Config Sense at 5
After using your sens/dpi/pollrate I've found these settings feel more fluid.

Thanks for any suggestions and I'll append when I'm home.


(http://i.imgur.com/kIHOxTo.png)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: RML on 11:54 AM - 11/05/15
Holy crap guys, this thread is like the energizer bunny! ;)

Sry, I haven't been around much lately. I'll try to catch up here a little, glad to see people are still benefitting from this setup.  :)

First of all, Loki, that Nav is SICK Lol ... nice job. I mean sure it's not super pleasing to the eyes, but it's comfort and playability that matters right? I keep waiting for the next "NAV" to come out, not sure what it will be or when but we really need something new and fresh for a wand.

Just one question.  I would love to use the thumbstick from PS4 on my XBOX one.  Is that possible through the Xim 4?  I would hate to spend the money and find out it won't work.

The only way to achieve this is by using the PS4 controller in slot 2 in place of a keyboard etc. Not ideal, but you can do it. You can also remap controller buttons when using two controllers in this manner.


Hello all,

I'm new to the community here and was wondering if anyone else is also using a mouse + keyboard setup and doesn't have a mouse / keyboard that internally can store macros.

Has anyone got a recommendation for me on this concern?

No on board memory is why I stay away from Razer mice unfortunately. I don't believe you can activate sparrow, go to orbit or heavy weapon with a single button press without macros. The reason is, they all have a bit of a delay value to them.


I hope this isn't a stupid question but why the 8000 dpi?
You have the Logitech G502 that goes up to 12k dpi, I thought with the Xim you wanted your dpi as high as it can go.

At the time when the quote was made by OBsIV to run at your highest DPI, the highest out there was around 5700. Mice have really been focusing on raising this value since then and it's literally getting ridiculous TBH.

At the end of the day, what really matters is what YOU prefer. I prefer a minimum of 4000 and a max of 8000. When I play above 8000 it gets too sensitive for me and causes a feeling of jitters. Your mouse pad also has a lot to do with this. Soft pads generally feel less responsive then hard pads, IMO.


I ended up just using all the curves individually as i use a KB/M.

Though, a strange problem has occurred. In the bindings I select crouch as the C key on the KB but it doesn't work, when I map the C key to the highlight character selection, it then crouches.

Any idea why this may happen?

Cheers.

The only reason that shouldn't work is if C was being used for something else already that was cancelling it out or something.


Was hoping for some help.  I can't seem to get my y axis look to be fast enough.  I have hunters blink jump over me and by the time I can turn I'm dead.

It doesn't seem like the y axis is -that- slow with a controller.  I've tried adjusting the hip sensitivity but haven't had any success, and really, I don't want the x axis to be much faster anyways.

Any thoughts?

Did you try changing your Y,X ratio? It starts out at 1. Try raising it in small increments until you like it. I.E. 1.10, 1.20, 1.30, etc.


Here's the other thing that is really annoying...  I seem to just get absolutely dominated at close in shotgun play.  Screen doesn't scroll fast enough, gun seems to jump.. I don't know.  It's great at medium range / pulse rifle play. 

Yes, that is the IN GAME aim assist messing with your aim. This is where practically every game struggles with XIM. It's no fault of XIM it's just the way look mechanics are created to help controller users. Generally the closer you are to your target and the faster they are moving the more aim assist kicks in. You have to try to find your happy medium to combat this. It's a BIG part of the reason I use an acceleration curve with ADS, it helps push through this. There's really two ways to combat this. 1 - A more aggressive curve or 2 - higher sensitivity. I set this up with the idea of being close to target before ADS so minimal movement is needed after adsing. Shotgun I rarely ADS with, I almost always shoot from the HIP as there is no penalty (bullet spread, etc.) or atleast there wasn't the last time I played. You shouldn't feel very much aim assist when shooting from the hip.


RML I've been using your setup with some tweaks for sometime and they are great.  Now that I'm getting more into sniping I'm having some issues.  In the heat of battle, especially ToO, I swipe to quickly or over accelerate which causes a couple things:

1.  Arced reticle path instead of nice straight line
2.  "Flashing Lights" or gone beyond max turn speed. (I know of destiny's for design after following mist, you and others post)

Your normal ADS curve is great for me in all things but sniping.  So in the last couple of days I've setup another config for sniping starting with your ADS and tweaking:

1.  I can adjust the Y/X ratio to get a flatter reticle path but then of course it feels to slow especially when trying to track a Jumping player. So that's not working.
2. Lowering the sensitivity doesn't work b/c I'm to slow to get on target
3. I've taken your ADS and flat lined the curve at about 50 to limit the speed which is the best I've come up with.

So at a loss I'm and hoping you can come up with a curve to help me.  This is no fault of anyone's but mine by not limiting my scoped swipe speed.  But maybe you can suggest a curve?

Not at home yet but will post curves when home.

Running G502
DPI - 12k @ 1k polling. 
ADS Mouse Sense at 5
Snipe Config Sense at 5
After using your sens/dpi/pollrate I've found these settings feel more fluid.

Thanks for any suggestions and I'll append when I'm home.


(http://i.imgur.com/kIHOxTo.png)

Ahh yes, LOL ... Sniping! I actually had a sniping setup added to my OP when I first created this. I removed it because it was creating too much confusion. Basically I made another sub config and lowered the sensitivity for long range sniping. I think I even had a video showing the benefits at long range. Yeah, that was fun. ;)

Thanks for sharing your ideas!  ;D

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: Kochise on 12:32 PM - 11/05/15


Ahh yes, LOL ... Sniping! I actually had a sniping setup added to my OP when I first created this. I removed it because it was creating too much confusion. Basically I made another sub config and lowered the sensitivity for long range sniping. I think I even had a video showing the benefits at long range. Yeah, that was fun. ;)

Thanks for sharing your ideas!  ;D

Do you still have access to that snipe config or was it just lower sensitivity with the same curve as normal ADS?

Last night some different ideas such as making a curve that was 1:1 upto about 35 then I set the "end point" at about 60 and connected the two.  This is feeling pretty good so far.  I'll keep experimenting.

I'm curious if anyone else in this thread uses a seperate config for sniping in Destiny.  If you know what I'm talking about then you probably do and I would love to see what curves you came up with!

By the way thanks RML for your time and work here!

Oh and this snipe config is separate than the Normal ADS which is similar to the one you have in the OP. I bind the snipe config to the thumb button on the G502 for ease of access.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: discountbarber on 05:35 PM - 11/05/15
3. Click on the 3 small dots to the right of the configs color block to open the drop down.
4. Paste the code below IN ITS ENTIRETY! To ensure you copy the entire code click on the word "Select" above the code. This will highlight everything that must be copied.


SOrry for the dumb question, I just got my Xim. When I click on the 3 dots for the drop down menu, where am I supposed to paste your text? There is no text box that opens. It is just additional toggle options (notify settings activation, notify turn speed exceeded, push to talk)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: mist4fun on 08:10 PM - 11/05/15
Full config copy and paste is a new feature and is located below those options you mentioned. You may need to update to the latest beta build located in the Release Candidate section of the forum.

http://xim4.com/community/index.php?board=77.0
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: ski107 on 05:50 PM - 11/06/15
I feel like I might be missing something, but when I click the three dots using the 20150816 manager I'm not able to paste anywhere. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: mist4fun on 07:20 PM - 11/06/15
Copy is on the left, paste on the right. Do you have this?
(http://i.imgur.com/UpBFl6C.png)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: RML on 09:28 PM - 11/06/15
I feel like I might be missing something, but when I click the three dots using the 20150816 manager I'm not able to paste anywhere. Any ideas?

Watch the video I posted at this link if you need further clarification.

http://xim4.com/community/index.php?topic=41264.0


BTW, thanks mist.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: ski107 on 11:39 PM - 11/06/15
Copy is on the left, paste on the right. Do you have this?
(http://i.imgur.com/UpBFl6C.png)

Thanks, that's what I was missing. I was unsure what those buttons did  ;D

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: xkellettx on 09:24 PM - 11/09/15
So I'm curious I want to snipe, so is there a something I could set up in addition to normal ads to snipe? Or would I have to have a new setup and if so what would the ballistic curve be?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: Peacez on 12:05 AM - 11/10/15
So I'm curious I want to snipe, so is there a something I could set up in addition to normal ads to snipe? Or would I have to have a new setup and if so what would the ballistic curve be?

You could do this by having a secondary key bound to ADS, and then also have the same key activate a new setup with lower sensitivity/ballistics. Essentially you end up having a different button that you just use to ADS when using a sniper rifle. Seems to work well for me but it does take some getting used to.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: S2bag on 09:45 PM - 11/13/15
Hey RML..  Great setup and i am trying to use it.  At first i couldn't understand why you mapped certain buttons on the mouse.. But after testing i realized that this setup is ideal.  I've searched this entire post for your LGS settings, and even found posts that referenced Imgur links, but i cannot find them at all.  I apologize if i've overlooked something, but could anyone point me to the LGS Imgur pics?  Thank you all so much!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: mano154 on 05:21 AM - 11/14/15
Hey RML..  Great setup and i am trying to use it.  At first i couldn't understand why you mapped certain buttons on the mouse.. But after testing i realized that this setup is ideal.  I've searched this entire post for your LGS settings, and even found posts that referenced Imgur links, but i cannot find them at all.  I apologize if i've overlooked something, but could anyone point me to the LGS Imgur pics?  Thank you all so much!

I think it this link
http://imgur.com/a/VfKnj
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: RML on 10:24 AM - 11/14/15
Thanks mano154, that should do the trick. :)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: garbage on 10:40 AM - 11/15/15
Wow thanks for this RML! I watched your video and I am in the same boat. I'm 35 years old, work 50 hours a week, and when I get game time it's not very much time at all. This is going to save me a ton of time trying to create a config that works so I just want to say thank you very much for taking the time to create and share this with everyone.
My issue is the Destiny turn cap, it's driving me crazy. I don't have the same hardware you are using and I'm wondering if loading these settings will work just the same?
I use a Logitech G5 that has max DPI of 2000 (should I buy a new mouse?)and a G15 keyboard.
I'm assuming that I will have to increase the sensitivity of the Hip and Ads but will I have to make any changes to the curve and boost settings with my hardware or are these two settings unaffected by mouse DPI?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: Rickstamatic on 07:57 AM - 11/16/15
New ximer here. I've been playing on the default destiny profile and must say I find the HIP and ADS to be pretty good. I'm hitting the turn cap a lot but I'm guessing that's a limitation I just can't really do much about.

I found my way to this post because the main problem with the default setup appears to be the sprint/vehicle config. I'm assuming my xim4 is on the official 2014 firmware. I'm looking at upgrading but see the latest is 20151110 and this post refers to the one before that. Does anyone know if these settings work on the latest firmware?

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: BuryUrDad on 12:16 PM - 11/16/15
Yes, you can use it with the latest RC and then just copy the settings for the new firmware from august.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: RML on 12:35 PM - 11/16/15
Wow thanks for this RML! I watched your video and I am in the same boat. I'm 35 years old, work 50 hours a week, and when I get game time it's not very much time at all. This is going to save me a ton of time trying to create a config that works so I just want to say thank you very much for taking the time to create and share this with everyone.
My issue is the Destiny turn cap, it's driving me crazy. I don't have the same hardware you are using and I'm wondering if loading these settings will work just the same?
I use a Logitech G5 that has max DPI of 2000 (should I buy a new mouse?)and a G15 keyboard.
I'm assuming that I will have to increase the sensitivity of the Hip and Ads but will I have to make any changes to the curve and boost settings with my hardware or are these two settings unaffected by mouse DPI?

This setup will help with turning everything and you don't have to change anything other then your Sensitivity and button layout.

You can use the dpi calculator in the OP to determine what your sens should be. I use 8,000 dpi. I would suggest that you upgrade to a gaming mouse that has at least 3600 dpi. However, you don't absolutely HAVE to, just a recommendation. I personally don't like using mice with less dpi then that. I would also recommend an optic sensor mouse like the G502 or G400s if you're going to upgrade.


Yes, you can use it with the latest RC and then just copy the settings for the new firmware from august.

I love it when the community helps out, Thank You!

He's right, just the firmware is new, not manager.  ;)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: zorgmop on 02:25 PM - 11/16/15
I just had to thank you, RML, for taking the time to put this guide together for new people to get their XIM4's set up fresh out the box with utter ease! This guide also taught me a lot more about the XIM4 before I even owned it! I felt I knew where to go and what to do the second my unit arrived.

Always appreciate people going above and beyond on the internet, like this, to make transitions simple for everyone.

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: thepr0 on 12:13 PM - 11/20/15
any updates on curves? i love your setup and good job taking the time to share settings..ive been trying to find a curve thats good between sniping and primaries. im having a hard time adjusting snipin sometimes im good but if i strafe hard scope i miss sometimes
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: garbage on 01:53 PM - 11/20/15
i'm wondering if there is someway to enable the left mouse button to be used for a single sword swipe instead of a super move. i know some sort of config would have to be created but how would i do so?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: Brutalimp on 09:36 PM - 11/20/15
any updates on curves? i love your setup and good job taking the time to share settings..ive been trying to find a curve thats good between sniping and primaries. im having a hard time adjusting snipin sometimes im good but if i strafe hard scope i miss sometimes


I just switched to the regular linear curve with higher sensitive and have noticed it is MUCH easier to get those headshots compared the RML's ADS curve, but it's harder to track people and push through that auto aim when using other weapons.... We need a good curve that gives us the best of both worlds ideally but sadly I am a complete simpleton when It comes to these ballistic curves...
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: gamerjmc on 04:51 AM - 11/21/15
I have read most of this thread and cannot find the solution to my problem.  I use a keyboard and mouse and cannot seem to get the running turn speed to speed up.  I have tried the x,y adjustments and things that I doubt would affect that (boost, hip and ads sensitivity) and nothing works.

Some assistance would be greatly appreciated it.

Other than that, everything thing else works great and very much appreciate your efforts and sharing this with us!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: thepr0 on 07:42 AM - 11/21/15
any updates on curves? i love your setup and good job taking the time to share settings..ive been trying to find a curve thats good between sniping and primaries. im having a hard time adjusting snipin sometimes im good but if i strafe hard scope i miss sometimes


I just switched to the regular linear curve with higher sensitive and have noticed it is MUCH easier to get those headshots compared the RML's ADS curve, but it's harder to track people and push through that auto aim when using other weapons.... We need a good curve that gives us the best of both worlds ideally but sadly I am a complete simpleton when It comes to these ballistic curves...
I agree with you the aim assist is bad i like curves but sometimes it adds too much acceleration and trows me off.  Kinda hard keeping it balance betweeb hip and ads the transition between both and the Feel of aim assist using different load outs.  Im going to work on a new curve this week ill see if i can come up with something nice to balanced both
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: Brutalimp on 04:27 AM - 11/22/15
any updates on curves? i love your setup and good job taking the time to share settings..ive been trying to find a curve thats good between sniping and primaries. im having a hard time adjusting snipin sometimes im good but if i strafe hard scope i miss sometimes


I just switched to the regular linear curve with higher sensitive and have noticed it is MUCH easier to get those headshots compared the RML's ADS curve, but it's harder to track people and push through that auto aim when using other weapons.... We need a good curve that gives us the best of both worlds ideally but sadly I am a complete simpleton when It comes to these ballistic curves...
I agree with you the aim assist is bad i like curves but sometimes it adds too much acceleration and trows me off.  Kinda hard keeping it balance betweeb hip and ads the transition between both and the Feel of aim assist using different load outs.  Im going to work on a new curve this week ill see if i can come up with something nice to balanced both

Let me know if you find something that works, right now I am getting used to the linear curve for the ADS and having more success sniping with it.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: Theunseenblade on 10:56 AM - 11/22/15
I'm a newb but i'm trying to figure out how to set this up for my Destiny profile. I don't even know where you paste that first code posted, also when I paste the code for the HIP ballistics it shows like 88.0 under the ballistics and the wavy line curve is all over the @#$% place and looks nothing like yours.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: Grarrg on 02:50 PM - 11/22/15
Hi,
Awesome article.
Thank you for writing it.
I have one question though.
I am using a Samsung tablet and have always put in my configurations through it.
When I try to cut and paste your configuration and I hit the edit button I don't have the option for cut and paste appear.
Is there something I need to download or do I need to do it on a laptop?
Thank you
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: havoxxx on 03:55 PM - 11/22/15
Hi,
Awesome article.
Thank you for writing it.
I have one question though.
I am using a Samsung tablet and have always put in my configurations through it.
When I try to cut and paste your configuration and I hit the edit button I don't have the option for cut and paste appear.
Is there something I need to download or do I need to do it on a laptop?
Thank you


Touch and hold the text field then select one of the following (located in the upper right). Select all. Cut. Copy.
Touch and hold the target text field then select Paste.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: JasonKhoo78 on 02:51 AM - 11/23/15
Hi there!

Just wanted to check if the settings is compatible with the latest firmware XIM4 20151120?

Thanks guys!


Regards,
Jason Khoo
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: JerryHatrick on 05:52 AM - 11/23/15
Awesome job OP, this instantly felt better. Using a 700s and even your sensitivities felt bang on. Well done pal. Is this a subjective config? Just makes me wonder why the actual ST doesn't already have these settings?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: RML on 09:27 PM - 11/23/15
I just had to thank you, RML, for taking the time to put this guide together for new people to get their XIM4's set up fresh out the box with utter ease! This guide also taught me a lot more about the XIM4 before I even owned it! I felt I knew where to go and what to do the second my unit arrived.

Always appreciate people going above and beyond on the internet, like this, to make transitions simple for everyone.

I appreciate your kind words, I'm glad it helped you. :)


any updates on curves? i love your setup and good job taking the time to share settings..ive been trying to find a curve thats good between sniping and primaries. im having a hard time adjusting snipin sometimes im good but if i strafe hard scope i miss sometimes

Try this curve, I made it for BO3 to combat Aim Assist. I'm not sure how it will work with Destiny, but the concept is the same. For Sniping I would use a Low Sens config with this curve. For all other weapons I would go Medium to High Sens.

20150816 Manager ;)

Code: [Select]
>>> XIM4 [Mouse Ballistics] START PASTE >>>
X4MB:AAAAGgA0AC4AMAAwAC4AMgAwADEANQAwADgAMQA2ABgxSWJveICHjpWcpKuyucDIyMjI:X4MB
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<


I'm a newb but i'm trying to figure out how to set this up for my Destiny profile. I don't even know where you paste that first code posted, also when I paste the code for the HIP ballistics it shows like 88.0 under the ballistics and the wavy line curve is all over the @#$% place and looks nothing like yours.

Watch the video in the OP on hoe to paste an entire setup and make sure you're on the 20150816 Manager and Firmware.

Hi,
Awesome article.
Thank you for writing it.
I have one question though.
I am using a Samsung tablet and have always put in my configurations through it.
When I try to cut and paste your configuration and I hit the edit button I don't have the option for cut and paste appear.
Is there something I need to download or do I need to do it on a laptop?
Thank you


Touch and hold the text field then select one of the following (located in the upper right). Select all. Cut. Copy.
Touch and hold the target text field then select Paste.

Thanks for helping out, I really appreciate it!  :)

Hi there!

Just wanted to check if the settings is compatible with the latest firmware XIM4 20151120?

Thanks guys!


Regards,
Jason Khoo

YES, Absolutely!  ;)

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: garbage on 08:25 AM - 11/25/15
Hi RML, in regards to your tutotial here http://imgur.com/a/VfKnj I see the reasoning behind having to create a one button press macro for sparrow mounting and going to orbit due to having to press a sequence of keys including delays, however I do not see the point of having a macro for heavy weapon. I just hold down the key which has been assigned to bring up heavy weapon. Is there a reason for creating a macro?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: RML on 10:07 AM - 11/25/15
Hi RML, in regards to your tutotial here http://imgur.com/a/VfKnj I see the reasoning behind having to create a one button press macro for sparrow mounting and going to orbit due to having to press a sequence of keys including delays, however I do not see the point of having a macro for heavy weapon. I just hold down the key which has been assigned to bring up heavy weapon. Is there a reason for creating a macro?

Lol ... this was because I use the Thumb button on the G502 for 'Y'. That button isn't in an ideal place for me because of my semi-claw style grip. A couple of times I struggled with it during PvP and it cost me my life. I can't be having any of that, so .. hence the macro. Now I can quickly just tap the button and not alter my grip as much.

I don't use a KB, so my buttons are limited.  ;)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: Bringer on 07:48 AM - 11/26/15
I am against aim assist but have been thinking lately (for sniping) it would be better to run an ambush scope rather than a shortgaze as shortgaze adds +30 AA and ambush runs -10 aa.

Does anyone else run ambush for this reason?

Cheers
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: finedrive on 02:34 PM - 11/30/15
I just got my xim4 and I've been trying to use this guide...

I am using the manager and firmware versions mentioned in OP and followed the instructions.

There is no where to paste the configs, please help.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: Blakkpatron on 05:18 PM - 11/30/15
I am against aim assist but have been thinking lately (for sniping) it would be better to run an ambush scope rather than a shortgaze as shortgaze adds +30 AA and ambush runs -10 aa.

Does anyone else run ambush for this reason?

Cheers
it seems like aa affects ranged accuracy as well :'(
so from what I've gathered the best scopes have strong aa.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: RML on 05:44 PM - 11/30/15
I just got my xim4 and I've been trying to use this guide...

I am using the manager and firmware versions mentioned in OP and followed the instructions.

There is no where to paste the configs, please help.

Make sure you download the latest "BETA" Firmware/Manager here - http://xim4.com/community/index.php?board=77.0


Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: RML on 11:17 PM - 12/02/15
Updated OP with 20151120 manager and firmware codes.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 10/08/15)
Post by: finedrive on 08:25 PM - 12/03/15
I figured it out.

I was looking for a text box to paste the code...

1. Copy the code in its entirety.
2. Click the edit button on the top left of manager.
3. Click the " . . . " button on the right.
4. Click the box with an arrow pointing down to "paste" code.

I'm enjoying my XIM4 now, I've changed a few things like sensitivity etc.

Thanks for this write up, would be lost without it!

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: RML on 07:42 AM - 12/06/15
I figured it out.

I was looking for a text box to paste the code...

1. Copy the code in its entirety.
2. Click the edit button on the top left of manager.
3. Click the " . . . " button on the right.
4. Click the box with an arrow pointing down to "paste" code.

I'm enjoying my XIM4 now, I've changed a few things like sensitivity etc.

Thanks for this write up, would be lost without it!



I'm glad it helped you. I've been wanting to get back and play some Destiny (been feeling the urge). But crap, I have barely touched Halo 5, Battlefront and Fallout 4!

UGH ....
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: Torderro on 01:53 PM - 12/07/15
Hey I copied the setup,  tweaked to my liking. All my buttons are set. Only problem is that I'm hitting the turn cap very very fast.  I'm using a razer death adder 3500 dpi. Is this mouse considered no good? On cod, and battlefront this mouse feels amazing. destiny, however, it just feels so sticky and sluggish. My Xim flashes RED everytime I'm trying to mouse around.  Hip, ads, and sprinting. Sprinting is basically unusable right now.  Do you guys think it's my mouse?

NY sensitivity is 56. Ads is 30
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: Helibrewer on 02:25 PM - 12/07/15
Is your game sensitivity maxed out? I run 8500 dpi and the setup is awesome
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: V3n0m15 on 02:29 PM - 12/07/15
Hey I copied the setup,  tweaked to my liking. All my buttons are set. Only problem is that I'm hitting the turn cap very very fast.  I'm using a razer death adder 3500 dpi. Is this mouse considered no good? On cod, and battlefront this mouse feels amazing. destiny, however, it just feels so sticky and sluggish. My Xim flashes RED everytime I'm trying to mouse around.  Hip, ads, and sprinting. Sprinting is basically unusable right now.  Do you guys think it's my mouse?

NY sensitivity is 56. Ads is 30

It could be in game settings or it could be that your mouse at 3500 doesn't feel as fluid. I have a Deathadder 2013 which was 6400 which was very usable but i wanted to try the G502. When i tried it i was surprised at the difference between the two mice. The nice thing about it was that it felt smoother and it also allowed me to have more button options on the mouse which i have really learned to love now. The first couple of games were difficult but i really love it now. If you aren't in the market for a new mouse just crank up the XIM sensitivity and hopefully that works out for you.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: Torderro on 08:05 PM - 12/07/15
Hey I copied the setup,  tweaked to my liking. All my buttons are set. Only problem is that I'm hitting the turn cap very very fast.  I'm using a razer death adder 3500 dpi. Is this mouse considered no good? On cod, and battlefront this mouse feels amazing. destiny, however, it just feels so sticky and sluggish. My Xim flashes RED everytime I'm trying to mouse around.  Hip, ads, and sprinting. Sprinting is basically unusable right now.  Do you guys think it's my mouse?

NY sensitivity is 56. Ads is 30

It could be in game settings or it could be that your mouse at 3500 doesn't feel as fluid. I have a Deathadder 2013 which was 6400 which was very usable but i wanted to try the G502. When i tried it i was surprised at the difference between the two mice. The nice thing about it was that it felt smoother and it also allowed me to have more button options on the mouse which i have really learned to love now. The first couple of games were difficult but i really love it now. If you aren't in the market for a new mouse just crank up the XIM sensitivity and hopefully that works out for you.


Yea, it could just be the mouse. But my in game sensitivity is of course maxed. (10) .  So when I increase the XIM sensitivity. All that does it make it easier to hit the flashing red lights turn cap. I don't know if it's completely and totally different from Call of Duty, because I barely ever hit the turn cap on Cod. Maybe destiny is just such a poorly designed aiming mechanics.  But then again, people are saying their setups are "awesome"  so it's probably just this mouse. My brother has a Logitech g500. That's only 5700 or something like that. Would like something with 8000 or more. Preferably the Steelseries Sensei.
Is your game sensitivity maxed out? I run 8500 dpi and the setup is awesome

What mouse are you running?  And the sensitivity on your Xim? And do you ever hit the turn cap? ( red flashing lights)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: RML on 11:41 PM - 12/07/15
Hello Torderro,

First and foremost, if you're switching back and forth from games like COD and BF, then Destiny will feel funky to you. The turn speed cap is not as high for sure. As far as the red light goes, with this game there's no getting around it, you're going to red light! The key is to raise your sens as high as you can without feeling like you're wasting movement. 3700 dpi should be plenty you'll just have to turn your sens up higher then what I was using at 8000.

About Sprint, are you using the "Hold" feature I included to activate the Sprint sub config? You need a sub config with a higher sens that can be activated while running. I included it in the setup but you may not be utilizing it or using it correctly.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: Torderro on 12:05 AM - 12/08/15
Hey OP! Thanks for the information. I feel a lot better about the red light thing. Makes me feel like I'm not the only one, or it isn't my mouse. So yeah, I was your exact setup. Holding down sprint to gain the extra needed sensitivity.  It's just that the red light was very off putting and felt like I was doing something completely wrong. I guess I'll keep raising the sensitivity until it feels better? 
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: RML on 12:42 AM - 12/08/15
^ Yeah that red light is actually telling you that you don't need anymore DPI, you're already exceeding the Turn Speed limit. Like I said though, the key is to ride that light and don't over do it or you'll be wasting movement. As long as your mouse movement feels good to you with what you're registering on the screen you'll be fine. Learn to pace your movement, with this game sometimes slower ='s more! Twitch movements won't work well and will mess with your aim because they won't register like it would on PC or with games like COD.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: Bringer on 08:51 PM - 12/11/15
Cannot thank OP enough (and this is kinda off topic) but when you use your phone and download the latest game settings (or what ever it does) does that also update the firmware or are you only updating firmware when you plug your xim into the computer and do it manually?

Cheers!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: RML on 09:59 AM - 12/12/15
You have to update firmware manually.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: walklikeazombie on 10:52 PM - 12/12/15
I'm really knew to xim and was wondering g if I could get some help with making a few things easier for game play like how to maneuver the sparrow easier using a mouse and keyboard. I apologize if there are tons of threads with this data mixed in.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: RML on 07:21 AM - 12/13/15
I'm really knew to xim and was wondering g if I could get some help with making a few things easier for game play like how to maneuver the sparrow easier using a mouse and keyboard. I apologize if there are tons of threads with this data mixed in.

It's all in the original post man, just got to read through it. Copy my entire config (there's a link in the OP on how to do that too) then just learn how to setup the buttons to your liking and so that they also work with sub configs as well. You can figure that out by checking all my activation keys for different configs, including ADS and then modify them to suit your needs.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: walklikeazombie on 01:42 PM - 12/13/15
I attempted that but I think I overwhelmed my self. I'll have to give it another shot.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: RML on 10:10 AM - 12/14/15
I attempted that but I think I overwhelmed my self. I'll have to give it another shot.

Make sure you check out the link "Advanced Settings" in my signature. There's Alot of good info there that will help you understand XIM better.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: walklikeazombie on 03:20 PM - 12/14/15
I have been messing around with it and getting an understanding of it now
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: TheWalt on 04:28 PM - 12/14/15
Thanks for all the work in this post, it's really helped me get up to speed on the XIM and all the customization and settings needed to get a 'good' feel for my setup.  RML, I'm glad you've taken the initiative to write out all that's necessary to get things working, and for sticking with the thread (even when you're not playing Destiny) to help new users out.

I registered my account to say thanks, and may well contribute more in the future as I learn more about what settings I like and dislike with the XIM.

Now, to update the firmware and manager when I get home!

-TheWalt
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: sncjez on 06:05 PM - 12/14/15
Got It

My final set up 4k mouse dpi
Hip 21.25
ADs 13.50
Y/X which has been a blinder for me 1.05 hip and ads

Cheers RML  8)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: Leotigano on 02:31 AM - 12/15/15
[DESTINY PLAYERS]

Is it worth to upgrade from 20141114 to 20151120 firmware ?

I only play destiny on my Xim4 (ps4) and have no problems so far. I was just wondering if will it improve my gaming experience, remain the same for destiny or even make it worse.

I saw one member saying that he downgraded because he had some issues for aiming headshots on DESTINY with the new smart translator.
Does anyone else experience some problems or benefits ?

Thanks a lot!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: mpk85 on 11:55 AM - 12/15/15
Just setting up my xim for the first time for destiny/Xbox one. I was curious what your thoughts are on binding sprint and move forward to the "W" key. Will this cause issues while ADS and moving forward or any other issues I am not thinking about?

Also, my mouse is set at a maximum DPI of 16,000. How should I adjust? Just play with the sensitivities and go from there? Thanks!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: V3n0m15 on 12:18 PM - 12/15/15
W for sprint would pull you out of ADS every time you tried to move forward while aiming.

The sensitivities will need to be tweaked to your personal liking. I would play around with a ball park you think you might like, play a little and then adjust accordingly
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: TheWalt on 02:41 PM - 12/15/15
Also, my mouse is set at a maximum DPI of 16,000. How should I adjust? Just play with the sensitivities and go from there? Thanks!

From what I gather (from RML's parameters/guidelines) and if you're like me, you're going to need to adjust your expectations on mouse sensitivity for Destiny. It's not going to be Quake or CoD type of twitch movement, where you can easily turn 180 degrees.  From a HIP standpoint, you should be able to move faster around the screen than what you could do with a controller, but then you get much more refined (read: slower/easier to control) movement while ADSing.  So you'll want to get your reticle close to target, then make slight adjustments once you're locked in.  If you have too much mouse speed or sensitivity, you'll have jittery controls, and your reticle will jump all over the place. 

I've had my XIM4 for less than a week, so I'm still refining my setup and my playstyle is still adapting, so at this point I'm probably still a better player on a controller, but I can see the benefit to a m+k setup which hopefully I'll be a little better at by the time Iron Banner rolls around next time.

Speaking of keyboards, are there any G13 users out there?  What key mapping are you guys using?  I initially mapped movements to the equivalent of WASD (4,10,11,12), with 'X' at E (5), 'Y' at Q (3), and 'B' at C (18).

The thumbstick is also mapped to the left stick for movement, but I'll have to train myself to get used to using it for movement.

I find it challenging (and somewhat frustrating) to get used to a new key map, which often results in unnecessary deaths in game, so if I can minimize the number of setups I try, that should help minimize workload on my hand/brain coordination. :)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: R3MiX on 09:20 PM - 12/15/15
[DESTINY PLAYERS]

Is it worth to upgrade from 20141114 to 20151120 firmware ?

I only play destiny on my Xim4 (ps4) and have no problems so far. I was just wondering if will it improve my gaming experience, remain the same for destiny or even make it worse.

I saw one member saying that he downgraded because he had some issues for aiming headshots on DESTINY with the new smart translator.
Does anyone else experience some problems or benefits ?

Thanks a lot!

Im not on the current RC but on the previous one and I have not notice any issues.
Where did you read that comment?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: Leotigano on 11:12 PM - 12/15/15
[DESTINY PLAYERS]

Is it worth to upgrade from 20141114 to 20151120 firmware ?

I only play destiny on my Xim4 (ps4) and have no problems so far. I was just wondering if will it improve my gaming experience, remain the same for destiny or even make it worse.

I saw one member saying that he downgraded because he had some issues for aiming headshots on DESTINY with the new smart translator.
Does anyone else experience some problems or benefits ?

Thanks a lot!

Im not on the current RC but on the previous one and I have not notice any issues.
Where did you read that comment?

I read somewhere in this topic:
http://xim4.com/community/index.php?topic=43278.180

Where people were giving feedback on the new firmware.

By the way, are you playing destiny in the latest firmware?
Have you find any benefits on setup and gaming experience?

I am afraid of losing my setups for nothing better.

Thanks a lot!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: R3MiX on 11:23 PM - 12/15/15
No I'm on the previous RC. I haven't done the update yet.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: RML on 11:29 PM - 12/15/15
Hello Leotigano,

Just curious, are you using this setup on 1114 manager, or are you using something else?

I did play a little Destiny with the latest firmware/manager and I didn't really feel a noticeable difference. Maybe just a little more jittery, hard to say TBH. One thing you DON'T want to do is use Steady Aim with Destiny. It makes Aim Assist ridiculously strong!


No I'm on the previous RC. I haven't done the update yet.

What!!?? Your still playing with a wired NAV?  :o


Thanks for all the work in this post, it's really helped me get up to speed on the XIM and all the customization and settings needed to get a 'good' feel for my setup.  RML, I'm glad you've taken the initiative to write out all that's necessary to get things working, and for sticking with the thread (even when you're not playing Destiny) to help new users out.

I registered my account to say thanks, and may well contribute more in the future as I learn more about what settings I like and dislike with the XIM.

Now, to update the firmware and manager when I get home!

-TheWalt

I appreciate you taking the time to register and comment in this thread. It is individuals like you that remind me why I took the time to do this in the first place. I look forward to your contributions in the future.  :)

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: R3MiX on 11:36 PM - 12/15/15
Nah. I'm using the orbweaver. Is the NAV wireless now? I'm on 20150816.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: RML on 11:39 PM - 12/15/15
Nah. I'm using the orbweaver. Is the NAV wireless now? I'm on 20150816.

Yes, it's wireless with 1120.

BTW, 0816 also utilizes STv2 so it's the same as 1120 from that stand point.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: R3MiX on 11:43 PM - 12/15/15
Oh yes! Definitely gonna update now.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: R3MiX on 06:10 PM - 12/16/15
Can someone refresh me as to how we pair the NAV and XiM?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: Leotigano on 03:11 AM - 12/17/15
Hello Leotigano,

Just curious, are you using this setup on 1114 manager, or are you using something else?

I did play a little Destiny with the latest firmware/manager and I didn't really feel a noticeable difference. Maybe just a little more jittery, hard to say TBH. One thing you DON'T want to do is use Steady Aim with Destiny. It makes Aim Assist ridiculously strong!


No I'm on the previous RC. I haven't done the update yet.

What!!?? Your still playing with a wired NAV?  :o


Thanks for all the work in this post, it's really helped me get up to speed on the XIM and all the customization and settings needed to get a 'good' feel for my setup.  RML, I'm glad you've taken the initiative to write out all that's necessary to get things working, and for sticking with the thread (even when you're not playing Destiny) to help new users out.

I registered my account to say thanks, and may well contribute more in the future as I learn more about what settings I like and dislike with the XIM.

Now, to update the firmware and manager when I get home!

-TheWalt

I appreciate you taking the time to register and comment in this thread. It is individuals like you that remind me why I took the time to do this in the first place. I look forward to your contributions in the future.  :)

Hi RML! Thanks for your reply!

I am running this setup on 1114 manager, but I got the codes a couple of months ago, before some new firmware releases.

Then I was looking for some sniping setups for better accuracy and I realised I am not using the latest firmware. Actually minr is very old! Kkk

But as soon as I had no problems, i am not sure if it is worth to update and lose my configs.
I just play Destiny on my XIM4 and for that reason I was asking if someone who also plays a lot Destiny has found some benefits on the latest firmware.

But if its more jittery it doesnt sound a good.idea to update my 1114 manager though.

What do you reccomend?

Thanks !!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: RML on 11:09 AM - 12/17/15
Can someone refresh me as to how we pair the NAV and XiM?

Has to be wired for boot up, then just unplug the NAV and it will connect.




Hello Leotigano,

Just curious, are you using this setup on 1114 manager, or are you using something else?

I did play a little Destiny with the latest firmware/manager and I didn't really feel a noticeable difference. Maybe just a little more jittery, hard to say TBH. One thing you DON'T want to do is use Steady Aim with Destiny. It makes Aim Assist ridiculously strong!


No I'm on the previous RC. I haven't done the update yet.

What!!?? Your still playing with a wired NAV?  :o


Thanks for all the work in this post, it's really helped me get up to speed on the XIM and all the customization and settings needed to get a 'good' feel for my setup.  RML, I'm glad you've taken the initiative to write out all that's necessary to get things working, and for sticking with the thread (even when you're not playing Destiny) to help new users out.

I registered my account to say thanks, and may well contribute more in the future as I learn more about what settings I like and dislike with the XIM.

Now, to update the firmware and manager when I get home!

-TheWalt

I appreciate you taking the time to register and comment in this thread. It is individuals like you that remind me why I took the time to do this in the first place. I look forward to your contributions in the future.  :)

Hi RML! Thanks for your reply!

I am running this setup on 1114 manager, but I got the codes a couple of months ago, before some new firmware releases.

Then I was looking for some sniping setups for better accuracy and I realised I am not using the latest firmware. Actually minr is very old! Kkk

But as soon as I had no problems, i am not sure if it is worth to update and lose my configs.
I just play Destiny on my XIM4 and for that reason I was asking if someone who also plays a lot Destiny has found some benefits on the latest firmware.

But if its more jittery it doesnt sound a good.idea to update my 1114 manager though.

What do you reccomend?

Thanks !!


It really comes down to what you want from your XIM4. There are quite a few new features with the latest manager that yours doesn't have. However, if none of them mean anything to you then why upgrade. I always upgrade because I'm pretty active in this community and I like to stay on top of things. I also like to test out new features and give feedback. So it's just up to your personal preference.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: systole on 12:38 PM - 12/17/15
Hello Leotigano,

Just curious, are you using this setup on 1114 manager, or are you using something else?

I did play a little Destiny with the latest firmware/manager and I didn't really feel a noticeable difference. Maybe just a little more jittery, hard to say TBH. One thing you DON'T want to do is use Steady Aim with Destiny. It makes Aim Assist ridiculously strong!
I thought exactly the same, a little more jittery. However I bumped my polling from 500 back up to 1000 on my mouse for the 1120 fw and it was so much smoother. I went back to the previous because I thought it was "too smooth" and tried that on 500 and 1000, but have kept 1120 at 1000 mouse polling and, once I got used to it, like it quite a bit. To note I'm using a Razer mouse at 8200dpi @1000. ALSO, I must thank you so much for this setup. I also got xim4 specifically for destiny (initially) and this amazing thread taught me all about curves and proper mouse tweaks and now I tweak all my setups. Thank you kindly for your time and effort, it's made fun more fun.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: VTEC on 03:50 PM - 12/17/15
I don't understand the keystrokes in LGS for the 1 button macros; num 0, num 8 etc....can you explain what i'm pressing to set this up?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: RML on 11:10 PM - 12/17/15
Num 0 and Num 8 are the numbers on the right side of the KB. I'd explain further but I don't have the time right now sry.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: TheWalt on 09:14 AM - 12/18/15
I don't understand the keystrokes in LGS for the 1 button macros; num 0, num 8 etc....can you explain what i'm pressing to set this up?

In your mapping setup, num 0/num 8 etc. are mapped to buttons that need to be pressed in combination to get the desired result.

For example, if 'num 0' is mapped to 'Y', your 'heavy weapon' macro would have "↓ num 0, 1.8s delay, ↑ num 0" to simulate pressing the button, holding it for 1.8 seconds (or 1800 ms), and then releasing.

To go to orbit, you would need to know the mapping of the select button and the y button.
So if 'select' was 'num 7' and 'Y' was 'num 0', the 'go to orbit' macro would have "↓ num 7, 0.08s delay, ↑ num 7, 0.5s delay, ↓ num 0, 3.8s delay, ↑ num 0"

The number keys can be mapped to the secondary tab so that you can still use them with mouse buttons on your primary tab (or vice versa) (comes in handy if you're programming macros on a G13).

Does that make sense?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: RML on 12:49 PM - 12/18/15
^ Thanks!  :)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: q3sebo on 04:35 PM - 12/19/15
Is there any tool to convert this new code you pasted to code for old fw?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: RML on 07:56 AM - 12/20/15
There's a converter link in the OP, near the bottom. ;)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: R3MiX on 10:11 AM - 12/22/15
There must have been a change in BC coding from 0816 to 1120,because when I upgraded to 1120 but still using the 0816 BC that was on there before the upgrade, my aim was really off. I was going negative for a few games. I mean really negative. I was like @#$% is going on? Took a thorough look at my config and went back to this thread to see if anything changed or if I missed something. Then I noticed you updated the BC code to 1120. So I decided to copy and paste it onto my current config. I don't know if that had anything to do with it but my previous games have been 2.0+ KD since. I did notice it just felt smoother for some reason compared to the previous 0816 curve with the 1120 firmware. That 0816 curve on the 1120 firmware was making my aiming go all over the place, but now with the 1120 curve and firmware I actually have better control. Weird? I know its not placebo for sure because of how aiming felt between the two.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: alejo9010 on 12:15 PM - 12/22/15
if i sprint i cant jump i have to let the sprint button off to be able to jump is that correct?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: R3MiX on 02:01 PM - 12/22/15
if i sprint i cant jump i have to let the sprint button off to be able to jump is that correct?

Why do you have sprint and jump bind to one button/key?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: pwoznic on 06:07 PM - 12/22/15
For some reason, I cannot copy/paste the ADS from page 1 into my settings. I installed the new firmware and had to recreate my stuff.. I did copy/paste for the Hip setting fine (Android), but ADS will not paste.. or maybe it does, but the curve does not change at all (stays the same default).

I cannot find my bluetooth adapter for my PC, so I am stuck to Android LOL.

Edit:

Nevermind.. somehow the pastes worked this time and I am having some fun tweaking the settings again! :)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: Frosty45 on 07:39 AM - 12/28/15
Thanks for sharing RML may i ask what mouse dpi you are using thanks!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: Griff on 09:09 AM - 12/28/15
Thank you very much for all the effort you have put into making, maintaining and supporting this config RDL, it's really appreciated.

I am new to the XIM4 and have only been using it for a week. I've found Destiny really easy to adapt to because of your config, it's brilliant. Thanks again!

There's only one issue that I am having now and that is with sprinting and jumping. I am using the Corsair K70 (in Bios mode as suggested in the supported peripherals list). Basically, I can't press jump at the same time as I am holding down shift for run, is this an issue anyone else has? It's just a little frustrating how I have to let go of sprint in order to jump.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: R3MiX on 10:24 AM - 12/28/15
I never had an issue of sprinting then jumping. Usually while sprinting and then making the jump I naturally let go of sprint anyways so really I can't say I experience your issue.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: flst81 on 10:47 AM - 12/28/15
I'm assuming you have tried assigning a different button for jump that's close to shift that you can use a different finger.  Then you wouldn't have to remove the finger you are using for run.
Me personally, I have run mapped to my kb and jump onto my mouse.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: R3MiX on 11:11 AM - 12/28/15
I'm assuming you have tried assigning a different button for jump that's close to shift that you can use a different finger.  Then you wouldn't have to remove the finger you are using for run.
Me personally, I have run mapped to my kb and jump onto my mouse.

Same here, run on KB and jump on mouse. Maybe that's where you're having the issue. Try binding run/sprint to another key/button.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: Griff on 11:37 AM - 12/28/15
I'm assuming you have tried assigning a different button for jump that's close to shift that you can use a different finger.  Then you wouldn't have to remove the finger you are using for run.
Me personally, I have run mapped to my kb and jump onto my mouse.

Same here, run on KB and jump on mouse. Maybe that's where you're having the issue. Try binding run/sprint to another key/button.

Thank you very much R3MiX and flst81. I think this was causing the issue, I'm not entirely sure why having jump on the keyboard did effect this, but oh well! If anyone does find out, please quote this post and let me know! :)

Now I have to consider buying a new mouse, I am currently using a Zowie FK2, the the scroll wheel does not work with the XIM :( have got my original MX 518 from 7 years back, may have to try that out!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: Truedarkseed on 01:05 PM - 12/28/15
My Xim4 does not have some of the settings listed that I see you have.   example: I do not have steady aim listed on mine.  Hoe\w did you get these setting on yours?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: RML on 04:16 PM - 12/28/15
Thanks for sharing RML may i ask what mouse dpi you are using thanks!

8000 when I created this setup.


Thank you very much for all the effort you have put into making, maintaining and supporting this config RDL, it's really appreciated.

I am new to the XIM4 and have only been using it for a week. I've found Destiny really easy to adapt to because of your config, it's brilliant. Thanks again!

There's only one issue that I am having now and that is with sprinting and jumping. I am using the Corsair K70 (in Bios mode as suggested in the supported peripherals list). Basically, I can't press jump at the same time as I am holding down shift for run, is this an issue anyone else has? It's just a little frustrating how I have to let go of sprint in order to jump.

It sounds like "Jump" is missing from your sprint secondary config. You just need to add it to the button layout, simple as that.


My Xim4 does not have some of the settings listed that I see you have.   example: I do not have steady aim listed on mine.  Hoe\w did you get these setting on yours?

You'll need to upgrade your firmware and manager to the 1120 build found in the link below. Make sure you follow OBsIV's instructions to a T.

Firmware - http://xim4.com/community/index.php?topic=43238.0
Manager - http://xim4.com/community/index.php?topic=43239.0
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: R3MiX on 07:13 PM - 12/28/15
RML do you know of any BC converter from XIME to XIM4 (RC 1120 )? Ive looked around and even tried some converters on the site but they seem to not work. I'm looking for a curve for Halo Reach for the X1.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: RML on 07:30 AM - 12/29/15
RML do you know of any BC converter from XIME to XIM4 (RC 1120 )? Ive looked around and even tried some converters on the site but they seem to not work. I'm looking for a curve for Halo Reach for the X1.

I Don't, I'm assuming you have a curve in mind, can't you just recreate the curve yourself?

What curve is it?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: V3n0m15 on 07:51 AM - 12/29/15
RML do you know of any BC converter from XIME to XIM4 (RC 1120 )? Ive looked around and even tried some converters on the site but they seem to not work. I'm looking for a curve for Halo Reach for the X1.
Which curve are you looking for?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: R3MiX on 07:58 AM - 12/29/15
Halo Reach. There was one for it during the XIME days. I wanted to convert that into the latest XIM4 BC coding.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: V3n0m15 on 08:15 AM - 12/29/15
Halo Reach. There was one for it during the XIME days. I wanted to convert that into the latest XIM4 BC coding.
I would like to check it out!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: patchm00 on 09:16 AM - 12/29/15
I'm assuming you have tried assigning a different button for jump that's close to shift that you can use a different finger.  Then you wouldn't have to remove the finger you are using for run.
Me personally, I have run mapped to my kb and jump onto my mouse.

Same here, run on KB and jump on mouse. Maybe that's where you're having the issue. Try binding run/sprint to another key/button.

Thank you very much R3MiX and flst81. I think this was causing the issue, I'm not entirely sure why having jump on the keyboard did effect this, but oh well! If anyone does find out, please quote this post and let me know! :)

Now I have to consider buying a new mouse, I am currently using a Zowie FK2, the the scroll wheel does not work with the XIM :( have got my original MX 518 from 7 years back, may have to try that out!
I have both sprint (e)  and jump (spacebar) on my kb with no issues
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: Esp10n on 04:36 PM - 12/29/15
RML you are a beast. Played Destiny till first DLC (got sick of controller). Heard about the XIM4, bought it used your configuration with the Nav + G502 combo. You my friend are a beast. This configuration has made me want to play the game, Thank you!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: R3MiX on 07:15 PM - 12/29/15
RML do you know of any BC converter from XIME to XIM4 (RC 1120 )? Ive looked around and even tried some converters on the site but they seem to not work. I'm looking for a curve for Halo Reach for the X1.
Which curve are you looking for?

I have no clue how to do that. LOL. Ive always just copied and paste what ya'll post up. I have zero experience in creating one.

Anyways its this one.


>>> XIM Edge Ballistics START Paste >>>
XEBH:01000A141E28323C46505A646E73787D82868A8E9297A00F
XEBA:01000A141E28323C46505A646E73787D82868A8E92978813
<<< XIM Edge Ballistics END Paste   <<<
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: walklikeazombie on 06:11 AM - 12/31/15
Thank you very much for all the effort you have put into making, maintaining and supporting this config RDL, it's really appreciated.

I am new to the XIM4 and have only been using it for a week. I've found Destiny really easy to adapt to because of your config, it's brilliant. Thanks again!

There's only one issue that I am having now and that is with sprinting and jumping. I am using the Corsair K70 (in Bios mode as suggested in the supported peripherals list). Basically, I can't press jump at the same time as I am holding down shift for run, is this an issue anyone else has? It's just a little frustrating how I have to let go of sprint in order to jump.
I'm using the same keyboard. I do not notice this issue. I mainly use RML setup but changed the buttons around.  I'd say it would have to be with your bindings?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: Griff on 12:31 PM - 01/02/16
Thank you very much for all the effort you have put into making, maintaining and supporting this config RDL, it's really appreciated.

I am new to the XIM4 and have only been using it for a week. I've found Destiny really easy to adapt to because of your config, it's brilliant. Thanks again!

There's only one issue that I am having now and that is with sprinting and jumping. I am using the Corsair K70 (in Bios mode as suggested in the supported peripherals list). Basically, I can't press jump at the same time as I am holding down shift for run, is this an issue anyone else has? It's just a little frustrating how I have to let go of sprint in order to jump.

It sounds like "Jump" is missing from your sprint secondary config. You just need to add it to the button layout, simple as that.


Hey RML and everybody who has been helping...

I was just stupid and missed out the sprint configuration buttons as RML mentioned, thank you very much for all of your help guys. It's much appreciated.

Am absolutely LOVING this config and the XIM in general... Good times :)

Happy new year everybody!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: RML on 05:09 PM - 01/02/16
Glad you figured it out Griff, good times!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: Griff on 11:54 AM - 01/03/16
Glad you figured it out Griff, good times!

Thanks RML :)

I've got a few more questions now! Haha.

Basically, I've really adapted to a nice sniper/hand cannon config with regards to sensitivity and I am really enjoying it. However, when wanting to try a bit of shotgun fun, i find the sensitivity is way too low for that style of gameplay.

So I was just wondering if there is anyone to set-up multiple configs for different game-styles which can be toggled between when wanting to swap from sniper/shotgun. If so, it it possible to assign a key to toggle /select these configs?

I have a feeling there is as I have seen the 'hotkey' assign in the top left of the app.

Cheers,

Griff
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: sT0rMboRN on 09:50 PM - 01/04/16
I cant seem to get this setup to work. I have the latest firmware and manager installed. So far I have uninstalled and reinstalled the app on my phone and have flashed my xim4 as per instructions on the downloads page. The app tells me I have 20141114 installed for both firmware and app.
I dont see a place to paste the first code to after hitting the ... near the color block. Also when i try to paste a ballistics curve it looks nothing like rml's. Thanks for your help
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: sT0rMboRN on 10:28 PM - 01/04/16
Just downloaded/flashed the 20151120 for my xim4. Unfortunately i cant seem to be able to connect the manager with my xim now. Im downloading from the google store what Im guessing is a compatible manager to firmware? Any help would be helpful
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: ScopeLoc on 08:13 AM - 01/05/16
I downloaded firmware manager and phone manager from on computer then  Bluetooth the phone manager to the phone and it worked great on both computer and phone.   
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: flyingbanana on 12:12 PM - 01/05/16
This config is so extremely helpful, thank you so much.
Also got my G502 today, I'm loving it.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: sT0rMboRN on 01:43 PM - 01/05/16
Was able to get the manager to finally download and work on my phone but not on my pc:/
Copied and pasted the setup into the Destiny config last night before a Crucible match. Work great but I need to increase sens a bit for my playstyle. Had trouble connecting manager to my xim again when I tried to tweak settings. I will try again tonight when I get home.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: RML on 08:33 AM - 01/06/16
Was able to get the manager to finally download and work on my phone but not on my pc:/
Copied and pasted the setup into the Destiny config last night before a Crucible match. Work great but I need to increase sens a bit for my playstyle. Had trouble connecting manager to my xim again when I tried to tweak settings. I will try again tonight when I get home.

Make sure you completely uninstall any old versions of manager from your PC before upgrading and if you're upgrading from 1114 version it will be a breaking chg. meaning you'll have to do a factory reset when prompted. This will erase all of your configs. unfortunately.   :(
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: etancross on 05:01 PM - 01/07/16
I really don't want to risk losing all my current profiles and im not really comfortable doing the upgrade.  Im just wondering will the xim4 eventually get the upgrade to the version these profiles were built in so myself or anyone else not wanting to lose all their profiles can use these profiles you've created?

They are really great, i feel like im missing out, but i just don't want to risk hosing up something.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: eatandsleep on 08:47 PM - 01/07/16
RML... thank you very much.  i owe you a beer, my friend
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: TheWalt on 09:33 AM - 01/08/16
Here's my modified setup (I'm not using Green Thumb)
http://imgur.com/rNGBxiA (http://imgur.com/rNGBxiA)

Basically, I'm used to right mouse button being scope, so I swapped the NAV trigger to jump.  The other problem I was having while testing the setup was sprinting/crouching (which was happening at all the wrong moments).  I've made the NAV bumper button B for crouching now, and the NAV stick button sprint (like I have been doing in Destiny all along).  I think now with this setup, I'll actually be able to play as well as I had with the regular xbox controller in the past, and should be able to start making vast improvements in my gameplay once I get used to the new setup.  Thanks for all the help RML!

(couldn't figure out how to get a picture to show up in the post, so I made a link)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: RML on 10:56 AM - 01/08/16
Here's my modified setup (I'm not using Green Thumb)
http://imgur.com/rNGBxiA (http://imgur.com/rNGBxiA)

Basically, I'm used to right mouse button being scope, so I swapped the NAV trigger to jump.  The other problem I was having while testing the setup was sprinting/crouching (which was happening at all the wrong moments).  I've made the NAV bumper button B for crouching now, and the NAV stick button sprint (like I have been doing in Destiny all along).  I think now with this setup, I'll actually be able to play as well as I had with the regular xbox controller in the past, and should be able to start making vast improvements in my gameplay once I get used to the new setup.  Thanks for all the help RML!

(couldn't figure out how to get a picture to show up in the post, so I made a link)

So your holding down the stick button while sprinting? Or did you make the Run Config toggle instead of hold behavior. I didn't use the stick button because I found that toggle didn't work well with run and holding down that button while running is a pain. Then you have to remember to press the button again everytime you stop running if using toggle. Plus sometimes you don't run when you push the button, but now you've activated your run config. You push it again and start running but then you've also just Deactivated your run config. Like I said in the OP, Toggle and Run are a frustrating endeavor.


EDIT: Just added this video to the OP. I have had a lot of questions about LGS, hope this helps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlxpCgD853c&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: blackpaintist on 10:14 PM - 01/10/16
I just watched your lgs video. Working on getting that to work tonight.

To clarify, your mouse registers how long you have the button held down to switch its onboard settings, when then correlate to manager. For example I switch to heavy in game by holding down weapon change. Mouse registers this hold and release and so go to its onboard settings. You change weapons ago, the macro sees another button press and switches back?

I see your XiM is set up to toggle on weapon swap...so how do you manage that the XiM is in heavy mode?

If I can get this it's totally possible to create different macros for each weapon type. In a limited capacity.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 10:14 AM - 01/11/16
I just watched your lgs video. Working on getting that to work tonight.

To clarify, your mouse registers how long you have the button held down to switch its onboard settings, when then correlate to manager. For example I switch to heavy in game by holding down weapon change. Mouse registers this hold and release and so go to its onboard settings. You change weapons ago, the macro sees another button press and switches back?

I see your XiM is set up to toggle on weapon swap...so how do you manage that the XiM is in heavy mode?

If I can get this it's totally possible to create different macros for each weapon type. In a limited capacity.

I'm not 100% sure I follow you here, but I'll try to answer this.

- I don't use toggle for weapon swap, I use it for activating and holding the Sparrow config. I don't have a separate config for heavy weapon.

- When setting up macro's I always assign them to buttons that I don't use for anything else. So by pressing that button it only carries out the script written for that macro and nothing else.

- If you're talking about Rapid fire, for different guns, that's considered cheating and really wouldn't help much for Destiny anyways, from what I remember about the guns.

- Rapid fire is not something we're allowed to discuss on the forum, sry.

- If you look at my button layout on my G502, I use Scroll down as "Y" to change weapons. I use the so called "Sniper" button for the macro that simulates holding down Y for 1.8 secs, which brings up the Heavy weapon. If I want to switch from the heavy weapon, I use scroll down to do so.

Make sense?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: blackpaintist on 11:23 AM - 01/11/16
Hey, thanks for reply!

Not looking to do macros for rapid fire or anything, just different sensitivity, boost, curves for each weapon class. For example your ads curve is exceptional with side arms. However, sniping wasn't intuitive.

I followed your tutorials, videos, and directions exactly - got it all working! Thanks a lot for that.

The point: I want to build  a swap to have different settings for each weapon class. 1) for your macros, are you plugging a keyboard in momentarily? So the orbit button. Num7-Num-8 etc,. Once in game those don't exist. When and how are you logging keystrokes?

2) the emotes are useless. That gives four extra buttons, plus three on board profiles for g502. Some play room to build curves. I was thinking dpad down on Nav to toggle, let's say fusions. So Jerry rig weapon profiles. Can you give a hint or idea towards a more fluent/elegant solution?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 12:11 PM - 01/11/16

The point: I want to build  a swap to have different settings for each weapon class.

I would create a New Destiny "Full" config for every weapon, paste the whole config to each one and then chg settings to your liking.


1) for your macros, are you plugging a keyboard in momentarily? So the orbit button. Num7-Num-8 etc,. Once in game those don't exist. When and how are you logging keystrokes?

I leave a key pad plugged into port three all the time. Once the Nav is connected wirelessly you can use port three for whatever you want.


2) the emotes are useless. That gives four extra buttons, plus three on board profiles for g502. Some play room to build curves. I was thinking dpad down on Nav to toggle, let's say fusions. So Jerry rig weapon profiles. Can you give a hint or idea towards a more fluent/elegant solution?

If you don't use the emoticons then I'd say the Dpad would be a good choice for activating your different configs. Or you can use a keypad like I do to change global configs, smartphone is always an option to. Both take a little more effort though then using the dpad.


Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: R3MiX on 02:00 PM - 01/11/16
RML pm'd you. I have a question.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Bonjah on 06:30 AM - 01/13/16
A quick question for u ps4 user that use this. I know RML is xbox one. So I ask u guys. How do u complete a misson that should be by pressing tringle? (weapon shift) Its on the mousewheele and cant be pressed. Or do I have to press on the controller that is plug in as receiver.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: R3MiX on 11:39 AM - 01/13/16
A quick question for u ps4 user that use this. I know RML is xbox one. So I ask u guys. How do u complete a misson that should be by pressing tringle? (weapon shift) Its on the mousewheele and cant be pressed. Or do I have to press on the controller that is plug in as receiver.

Bind triangle to another mouse or keyboard button. Simple as that really.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 12:44 PM - 01/13/16
^^ Yeah, I almost always double bind the chg weapon button. I have Y or Triangle bound to scroll down under primary buttons, but I also have it bound to another button under secondary buttons. For the G502 I bound it to scroll down and then the Sniper button I believe with Destiny.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: hurtmep1nty on 01:16 PM - 01/13/16
I just wanted to give a shout out to RML  8)

I recently switched to the Sony Nav and started using this profile. It has been a game changer for me and I can't thank you enough for all the time and effort you put into making this amazing config.

If you ever end up in Florida, the first round is on me!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: R3MiX on 04:08 PM - 01/13/16
I just wanted to give a shout out to RML  8)

I recently switched to the Sony Nav and started using this profile. It has been a game changer for me and I can't thank you enough for all the time and effort you put into making this amazing config.

If you ever end up in Florida, the first round is on me!

Only the first round? Maybe 2 or 3 rounds and in a tittie bar.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: flst81 on 04:44 PM - 01/13/16
I'll take it for RML since he's in CO.. I'm in FL and sure he wouldn't mind.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 06:25 PM - 01/13/16
Nice one guys! As it so happens, I'm a huge Dolphins fan and I actually plan on going to the renovated stadium later this year. ;)

Not sure the wife will go for the TT bar though lol ... let me ask ...

Nope! sry.

Well, actually, she said only if she tags along but what fun is that?!

(We'll leave her at the hotel, swimming with dolphins or something)  ;)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Foam52 on 11:01 PM - 01/13/16
I am new to XIM4 and i have no clue how to do any of these changes :( i cannot get my XIM4 to hookup to my computer only can do it wirelessly through iOS on cellphone. my main issue i have with my setup is turning quickly while sprinting and while ADS.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 10:01 AM - 01/14/16
I am new to XIM4 and i have no clue how to do any of these changes :( i cannot get my XIM4 to hookup to my computer only can do it wirelessly through iOS on cellphone. my main issue i have with my setup is turning quickly while sprinting and while ADS.

Follow the Advanced settings link in my signature. Make sure you read through it carefully, watch the video's and follow the links (especially the one for noobies). Then come back to the first post in this thread and carefully read through the entire thing. All the information you need is all within that spectrum, it's up to you if you want to take the time to learn it.  But this thread is pretty much useless to you if you don't. :)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: blackpaintist on 08:10 AM - 01/16/16
I am still having a tough time making Destiny really feel right.

From a 400 dpi mouse and nasty keyboard, to a g502, NAV and latest manager and firmware. I have a steel series mousepad, I can't justfiy dropping more money on a Razer glass coated mouse pad right now to continue and try to get this to work.

I don't want to quit on it either. Especially in games when it seemed to be clicking. Here's the problems, help is appreciated. Sticking with the same set up, gear, and curves this happens.

ADS, aim in general.

1) inconsistentcy. No two matches. No two ads situations. No two movements ever feel identical. I'm running 8200 dpi, 500 hz, as suggested. I always feel somehow slowed down when raising my reticle past an enemies neck. Fast and smooth, then molasses. In Trials of Osiris this has been match ending. This aggravates me because at 1k plus game time, attempting objectivity in review of my play, I don't feel it's me. I will have a smooth 1.5-2kd win. Glowing. Feel amazing. Then same enemies, same set up, getting spit on - consistent .3-.5 kds.

No two movements are feeling alike.

I encounter the opposite problem, if I'm bringing down a reticle or get past the enemy head, my reticle gains major acceleration in whatever direction I was pushing. Our problem with Destiny is that each gun has a level of aim assist as a base stat, creating all sorts of odd effects. For instance, the sidearm Havoc Pigeon is magic with RML's ADS curve. You fight recoil. Your sight goes where you aim it. Switch it to a sniper Defiance of Yasmin, high AA, you gain ghost acceleration and intereria.

Turn and look speed.

2) movement. Turn and look speed. This is a fixture with Destiny and XiM. I've had 2500 boost, 12000 dpi, with a self made curve that was nigh a straight line 100,100 feel the closest to smooth. Then I'm constantly readjusting the mouspad. Mouse position. Arm position. Looking at the curve. I'm using turn assist like a crutch, and doing so makes things jarring. While a comfortable hunter blinks on you, moving smoothly for a kill.

Okay, this has given me an education by fire in ballistic curves. Some of it can be chalked up to bad play/decisions. But the other 95/100? Not sure.

Not hating on XiM. It's a bad @#$% piece of tech,. Easy to use. Hating on Destiny's obtuse m+kb translation. I was a platinum rumbler before deciding to switch. Knew there would be a transition, learning pains, but this was my answer to scuff and Xbox elite controllers now flooding in. Getting down hearted and frustrated with my gameplay here. Would love help or advice finding that sweet spot.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: R3MiX on 09:03 PM - 01/16/16
I am still having a tough time making Destiny really feel right.

From a 400 dpi mouse and nasty keyboard, to a g502, NAV and latest manager and firmware. I have a steel series mousepad, I can't justfiy dropping more money on a Razer glass coated mouse pad right now to continue and try to get this to work.

I don't want to quit on it either. Especially in games when it seemed to be clicking. Here's the problems, help is appreciated. Sticking with the same set up, gear, and curves this happens.

ADS, aim in general.

1) inconsistentcy. No two matches. No two ads situations. No two movements ever feel identical. I'm running 8200 dpi, 500 hz, as suggested. I always feel somehow slowed down when raising my reticle past an enemies neck. Fast and smooth, then molasses. In Trials of Osiris this has been match ending. This aggravates me because at 1k plus game time, attempting objectivity in review of my play, I don't feel it's me. I will have a smooth 1.5-2kd win. Glowing. Feel amazing. Then same enemies, same set up, getting spit on - consistent .3-.5 kds.

No two movements are feeling alike.

I encounter the opposite problem, if I'm bringing down a reticle or get past the enemy head, my reticle gains major acceleration in whatever direction I was pushing. Our problem with Destiny is that each gun has a level of aim assist as a base stat, creating all sorts of odd effects. For instance, the sidearm Havoc Pigeon is magic with RML's ADS curve. You fight recoil. Your sight goes where you aim it. Switch it to a sniper Defiance of Yasmin, high AA, you gain ghost acceleration and intereria.

Turn and look speed.

2) movement. Turn and look speed. This is a fixture with Destiny and XiM. I've had 2500 boost, 12000 dpi, with a self made curve that was nigh a straight line 100,100 feel the closest to smooth. Then I'm constantly readjusting the mouspad. Mouse position. Arm position. Looking at the curve. I'm using turn assist like a crutch, and doing so makes things jarring. While a comfortable hunter blinks on you, moving smoothly for a kill.

Okay, this has given me an education by fire in ballistic curves. Some of it can be chalked up to bad play/decisions. But the other 95/100? Not sure.

Not hating on XiM. It's a bad @#$% piece of tech,. Easy to use. Hating on Destiny's obtuse m+kb translation. I was a platinum rumbler before deciding to switch. Knew there would be a transition, learning pains, but this was my answer to scuff and Xbox elite controllers now flooding in. Getting down hearted and frustrated with my gameplay here. Would love help or advice finding that sweet spot.


Maybe its just me but from my experience each weapon handles differently. I switch up weapons many times and some times my aim and movement in general feel different. I can be using one hand canon in one game and the feel is just on point and when I switch to another my player feels sluggish and aiming is a bit off.

Could also be lag. It has gotten really bad since the latest patch. Again, some games my character feels like Usain Bolt and sometimes like Peter Griffin and that not even switching weapons or classes. Destiny is weird , straight up. Its at a point where gaming experience is so bad that I feel like taking the disc out and splitting it in half. This coming from a guy who doesn't even rage.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 09:45 AM - 01/17/16
Yeah, pretty much every weapon in this game has a different feel do to variances in aim assist. I believe ads delay is different as well.

I haven't played in months though, so ... don't quote me on that.  :P
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: antithesis on 03:12 PM - 01/17/16
I am still having a tough time making Destiny really feel right.

From a 400 dpi mouse and nasty keyboard, to a g502, NAV and latest manager and firmware. I have a steel series mousepad, I can't justfiy dropping more money on a Razer glass coated mouse pad right now to continue and try to get this to work.

I don't want to quit on it either. Especially in games when it seemed to be clicking. Here's the problems, help is appreciated. Sticking with the same set up, gear, and curves this happens.

ADS, aim in general.

1) inconsistentcy. No two matches. No two ads situations. No two movements ever feel identical. I'm running 8200 dpi, 500 hz, as suggested. I always feel somehow slowed down when raising my reticle past an enemies neck. Fast and smooth, then molasses. In Trials of Osiris this has been match ending. This aggravates me because at 1k plus game time, attempting objectivity in review of my play, I don't feel it's me. I will have a smooth 1.5-2kd win. Glowing. Feel amazing. Then same enemies, same set up, getting spit on - consistent .3-.5 kds.

No two movements are feeling alike.

I encounter the opposite problem, if I'm bringing down a reticle or get past the enemy head, my reticle gains major acceleration in whatever direction I was pushing. Our problem with Destiny is that each gun has a level of aim assist as a base stat, creating all sorts of odd effects. For instance, the sidearm Havoc Pigeon is magic with RML's ADS curve. You fight recoil. Your sight goes where you aim it. Switch it to a sniper Defiance of Yasmin, high AA, you gain ghost acceleration and intereria.

Turn and look speed.

2) movement. Turn and look speed. This is a fixture with Destiny and XiM. I've had 2500 boost, 12000 dpi, with a self made curve that was nigh a straight line 100,100 feel the closest to smooth. Then I'm constantly readjusting the mouspad. Mouse position. Arm position. Looking at the curve. I'm using turn assist like a crutch, and doing so makes things jarring. While a comfortable hunter blinks on you, moving smoothly for a kill.

Okay, this has given me an education by fire in ballistic curves. Some of it can be chalked up to bad play/decisions. But the other 95/100? Not sure.

Not hating on XiM. It's a bad @#$% piece of tech,. Easy to use. Hating on Destiny's obtuse m+kb translation. I was a platinum rumbler before deciding to switch. Knew there would be a transition, learning pains, but this was my answer to scuff and Xbox elite controllers now flooding in. Getting down hearted and frustrated with my gameplay here. Would love help or advice finding that sweet spot.

I think you're over-thinking it. Stick to one setup, find weapons that shoot straight & hit hard and get used to it. Destiny's turn-speed and AA mechanics are what they are, a Xim can only do so much to mitigate the problems.

When I play well, I go 4-5KD. When things aren't going my way, it's more like 0.5-1KD. It's a 50/50 bet either way on a game-to-game basis. Not to mention internet lag from peers can have a dramatic effect on the outcome, and that's something you cannot control beyond your own connection.

Destiny is just a game - I know I'm far better with a Xim than a pad, so I just suck it up and try to have fun instead of worrying about meaningless interwebs stats and tweaking the ring out of what are already the best possible controls, for me, in m/kb.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: blackpaintist on 08:38 AM - 01/18/16
Hey, I appreciate the replies. Thank you. 1) yes Destiny can be frustrating. 2) practice. All my skill and practice were in sticks. High level skill in Destiny with sticks, is swiping or aiming with your body.

These curves break AA. I'm just totally unused to actually aimimg my reticle -- perhaps proving the old adage of pc fps being more competitive than console.

Also, after using XiM, you learn how ridiculous it is that people feel this is an advantage. I'd read dozens of posts, some clear headed, others expressing: it's point and click, you get to use a metal Bat in a wooden bat  league, etc,. If you're used to console shooters, make the switch expexting an advantage, it won't happen.

To other console users thinking on getting an elite, scuff, or XIM: XiM is your best option. Why? I can buy a new mouse, mouse pad, use different settings, play different games. All the independence available to you on pc. It's not xXx420NoScopesxXx hacking gear. It's a mouse and keyboard.

The fix. 1) stick with a set up. Just accepting the curves, then not touching them. 2) understand XiM is not a cheat, you have to play well. Then if you're like me and switched thinking you may have gotten an advantage, realize you now need to reach yourself mind a new controller - a much better controller.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 11:30 AM - 01/18/16
^ Here's my opinion on XIM Vs. Gamepad. You can be really good with either, if you put the time in. However the Skill cap on XIM is higher then it is with a gamepad. Therefore, (with a little practice) XIM will outperform a gamepad with ANY FPS that has a decent turn speed cap.

It's like the Karate master Vs. the Kung Fu master, LOL ...

I'll take Bruce Lee over Chuck Norris every time!

But there's no denying both of them were really good at what they did.  ;)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: jjscarfo on 02:40 PM - 01/18/16
Thanks for posting your setup bro, it's been very helpful for a first time xim4 user.  I am using the playstation nav controller and logitech g502 mouse as per your post.  I ran a few crucible matches with the features I was able to setup, but I was unable to pick up special/heavy ammo and revive teammates.  I have have my reload button as one of the mouse buttons, which works fine, but when I hold it down nothing happens in game.  Do I need to set up some advanced controls features within the logitech software to fix this?  Thanks again.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 07:52 PM - 01/18/16
Thanks for posting your setup bro, it's been very helpful for a first time xim4 user.  I am using the playstation nav controller and logitech g502 mouse as per your post.  I ran a few crucible matches with the features I was able to setup, but I was unable to pick up special/heavy ammo and revive teammates.  I have have my reload button as one of the mouse buttons, which works fine, but when I hold it down nothing happens in game.  Do I need to set up some advanced controls features within the logitech software to fix this?  Thanks again.

Hi jjscarfo, welcome to the community!

I haven't played in a long time, what button or buttons are used for picking up teammates and weapons? My guess is Y (triangle) or X (square). As a general rule of thumb, you should always double bind any buttons that you have bound to scroll up or scroll down.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: charleslaine on 05:07 AM - 01/19/16
I have a Logitech G700s and it's max DPI is 8200.  Your config is built around the G502 and I think it's DPI is 1200.  Would this DPI difference affect the way my mouse interacts with your config?  I'm wondering if your config would feel overly "slow" with my lower DPI mouse.  And therefore I'm wondering if I need to increase the sensitivity settings.

You have the following sensitivity settings...

hip - 25
ADS - 11.25
sprint - 47.5
sparrow - 50

For the g700 I'm wondering if I need to increase all these just a little bit to get the seem overall feel as your g502.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 10:14 AM - 01/19/16
I have a Logitech G700s and it's max DPI is 8200.  Your config is built around the G502 and I think it's DPI is 1200.  Would this DPI difference affect the way my mouse interacts with your config?  I'm wondering if your config would feel overly "slow" with my lower DPI mouse.  And therefore I'm wondering if I need to increase the sensitivity settings.

You have the following sensitivity settings...

hip - 25
ADS - 11.25
sprint - 47.5
sparrow - 50

For the g700 I'm wondering if I need to increase all these just a little bit to get the seem overall feel as your g502.

I actually set this up at 8000 dpi, not 12,000. I also have the G700 and it's lazer sensor is actually a little more sensitive then the G502.

If you're trying to experience the game like I am, then I would say there's no reason to change any settings as you should be really close already.

The only tid bit I can probably offer is, make sure you're using slower, consistent mouse movement with XIM. Another words, on PC you can whip your mouse all over the mat and not lose any movement. You can't do that on console because of the games built in max turn speed limit.

As a general rule of thumb, try not to move your mouse faster then 4-6 inches per second. 
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 12/02/15)
Post by: TheWalt on 11:03 AM - 01/19/16
Here's my modified setup (I'm not using Green Thumb)
http://imgur.com/rNGBxiA (http://imgur.com/rNGBxiA)

Basically, I'm used to right mouse button being scope, so I swapped the NAV trigger to jump.  The other problem I was having while testing the setup was sprinting/crouching (which was happening at all the wrong moments).  I've made the NAV bumper button B for crouching now, and the NAV stick button sprint (like I have been doing in Destiny all along).  I think now with this setup, I'll actually be able to play as well as I had with the regular xbox controller in the past, and should be able to start making vast improvements in my gameplay once I get used to the new setup.  Thanks for all the help RML!

(couldn't figure out how to get a picture to show up in the post, so I made a link)

So your holding down the stick button while sprinting? Or did you make the Run Config toggle instead of hold behavior. I didn't use the stick button because I found that toggle didn't work well with run and holding down that button while running is a pain. Then you have to remember to press the button again everytime you stop running if using toggle. Plus sometimes you don't run when you push the button, but now you've activated your run config. You push it again and start running but then you've also just Deactivated your run config. Like I said in the OP, Toggle and Run are a frustrating endeavor.


EDIT: Just added this video to the OP. I have had a lot of questions about LGS, hope this helps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlxpCgD853c&feature=youtu.be
So I actually wasn't using the sprint template at all, just hitting the button to enable sprint and using the regular HIPS setup.  I'm still in the process of transitioning from joystick to XIM, where right now I'm about even playskill with either setup.  I'm still trying to figure out where my melee and grenades are most comfortable, as I've had a few issues with accidentally hitting the K3 button on the mouse (the one right next to LB).  Of course, with the multiple setups, it's important that all the templates and secondary buttons are aligned, so that's still a challenge.  It's definitely a game ender when I accidentally hit the sparrow macro in the middle of a PVP match and don't remember how to get back to my main config, so I'm still learning.  I think I'd like to try the XIM4 at a desktop for true mouse & keyboard, rather than my current mouse & nav on the couch.  I'm currently relegated to the couch based on my home A/V setup.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: charleslaine on 11:35 AM - 01/19/16
I have a Logitech G700s and it's max DPI is 8200.  Your config is built around the G502 and I think it's DPI is 1200.  Would this DPI difference affect the way my mouse interacts with your config?  I'm wondering if your config would feel overly "slow" with my lower DPI mouse.  And therefore I'm wondering if I need to increase the sensitivity settings.

You have the following sensitivity settings...

hip - 25
ADS - 11.25
sprint - 47.5
sparrow - 50

For the g700 I'm wondering if I need to increase all these just a little bit to get the seem overall feel as your g502.

I actually set this up at 8000 dpi, not 12,000. I also have the G700 and it's lazer sensor is actually a little more sensitive then the G502.

If you're trying to experience the game like I am, then I would say there's no reason to change any settings as you should be really close already.

The only tid bit I can probably offer is, make sure you're using slower, consistent mouse movement with XIM. Another words, on PC you can whip your mouse all over the mat and not lose any movement. You can't do that on console because of the games built in max turn speed limit.

As a general rule of thumb, try not to move your mouse faster then 4-6 inches per second.

Dude, thanks for all the amazing help with this stuff!  I just started using your config and it is so much better than the stock out-of-the-box template for Destiny!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RunnionDvain on 01:00 PM - 01/19/16
I'm struggling to figure out where to paste the code...  Some tips?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 01:34 PM - 01/19/16
I'm struggling to figure out where to paste the code...  Some tips?

Go to the Advanced settings link in my signature, read through it and watch the videos, then come back here when you're ready ;)

And ... make sure you're running the latest firmware/manager.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: hurtmep1nty on 01:18 PM - 01/21/16
Any idea on how to bind "Shade Step" to a button? It's a hunter sub class in destiny and in order to achieve this move you have to double tap B quickly.

Any idea on how I could incorporate this into your config RML? Right now double clicking down on the left thumb pad is clunky and a pain. Any thoughts or info would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 02:12 PM - 01/21/16
Any idea on how to bind "Shade Step" to a button? It's a hunter sub class in destiny and in order to achieve this move you have to double tap B quickly.

Any idea on how I could incorporate this into your config RML? Right now double clicking down on the left thumb pad is clunky and a pain. Any thoughts or info would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

Sure ... if you're using a Logitech mouse just watch the video I made on applying a macro to XIM manager. Then it's just as simple as finding out the right delay setting between button presses.

The video toward the bottom of the OP, or you can click on the Advanced settings link in my sig. It's there too.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: hurtmep1nty on 02:41 PM - 01/21/16
Thank RML!  8)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: natu-_- on 10:38 PM - 01/21/16
I get insane mouse acceleration with this setup. Is is just me. I am using 4K DPI (max) on my Logitech G400S
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Ixian on 12:53 AM - 01/22/16
I recently updated to this config (the full one). I have the exact same setup (g502, Nav) except that I play Destiny on the PS4.

As expected I had to swap some buttons around but otherwise it works good. Actually, it works really good - if you stick to the hardware/DPI settings RML uses (8k DPI, g502, 500 polling).

If you do, or you do the conversions right for your hardware/sens levels, you'll get one of the smoothest Destiny experiences around. Playing with this config/curves is night and day from anything else I've tried. Some of the alternate switches, particularly mounting the bike, etc. take some getting used to - I might try remapping those keys, not a huge fan of clicking the mousewheel left or right. That's just me though. I really like the sprint config, makes sprinting more natural feeling and turn speed is good.

I suspect people having trouble with it is because they are either mixing/matching different parts of the config or using different mice/different DPI levels. Destiny is touchy; I wonder even if converting the DPI/sens levels with the calc will help. At 8k using RML's settings it's pretty much perfect but that might also be the 502 factoring in.

Anyway, thanks for the config!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: natu-_- on 01:31 AM - 01/22/16
I recently updated to this config (the full one). I have the exact same setup (g502, Nav) except that I play Destiny on the PS4.

As expected I had to swap some buttons around but otherwise it works good. Actually, it works really good - if you stick to the hardware/DPI settings RML uses (8k DPI, g502, 500 polling).

If you do, or you do the conversions right for your hardware/sens levels, you'll get one of the smoothest Destiny experiences around. Playing with this config/curves is night and day from anything else I've tried. Some of the alternate switches, particularly mounting the bike, etc. take some getting used to - I might try remapping those keys, not a huge fan of clicking the mousewheel left or right. That's just me though. I really like the sprint config, makes sprinting more natural feeling and turn speed is good.

I suspect people having trouble with it is because they are either mixing/matching different parts of the config or using different mice/different DPI levels. Destiny is touchy; I wonder even if converting the DPI/sens levels with the calc will help. At 8k using RML's settings it's pretty much perfect but that might also be the 502 factoring in.

Anyway, thanks for the config!

Doesn't he use 4k DPI?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: antithesis on 01:39 AM - 01/22/16
Doesn't he use 4k DPI?

Yes, but that's 4K on a 3360 sensor, which makes a world of difference compared to a native 4K DPI mouse.

The acceleration in RML's setup is to combat Destiny's slow turn-speed. You can try it without the curves, or just remove the ADS curve for a more 1:1 experience, though you may need to increase Xim sensitivity to compensate.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 01:53 AM - 01/22/16
Hey natu, can you try to describe what you don't like about the acceleration? Are you talking about Hip or ADS? Are you using a KB or Sony Nav?

I just got home from a party and TBH, I'm dead tired. But I will follow up with your answers in the morning.

One quick suggestion. Some people have had issues with my setup because they're using a KB and assigning ADS to right click. That can be an issue because I assign ADS to the trigger of the NAV.

So, if you're using right click for ADS make sure you chg. ADS activation to right click.

I hope that helps.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: natu-_- on 04:23 AM - 01/22/16
Hey natu, can you try to describe what you don't like about the acceleration? Are you talking about Hip or ADS? Are you using a KB or Sony Nav?

I just got home from a party and TBH, I'm dead tired. But I will follow up with your answers in the morning.

One quick suggestion. Some people have had issues with my setup because they're using a KB and assigning ADS to right click. That can be an issue because I assign ADS to the trigger of the NAV.

So, if you're using right click for ADS make sure you chg. ADS activation to right click.

I hope that helps.

Thanks for the quick reply, I'm just using a keyboard and mouse (logitech g400s @4k dpi, 500 hz). Hip is fine, to be honest, it's the ADS. I already switched the keys to right click so the ADS would activate (before I complained about the MA).

The hip has the same kind of problem, but for hip it doesn't really matter to me, it's just the ADS that makes it pretty annoying to snipe.

Edit1: I don't know if the sensitivity is the issue as per the above posts, but I can't really test a higher sens right now (servers are down), but the MA is pretty bad. I have a QcK+.

So,  imagine a number line up to 10, if I swipe slowly it will go from 1 to 10 (covering a longer distance), if i swipe quickly it will go from 1 to 5 (covering a shorter distance).

Edit2: What is your DPI exactly when you made this Destiny setup? I know your signature says 4K, but in the pictures where you show your key setup for your mouse its set at 8K.

Thing's I've tried, upping my sens to 50 / 22.25 (doubling it, assuming you had 8K dpi) -- makes the acceleration kind of worse but a bit easier to handle the ADS, I suppose, but it's just an insane amount of MA

Also, just to clarify your sensitivity setting in destiny is set to max (10), correct? I'm just trying to figure out if I looked over something,

Edit3: Before, I go to bed, the only thing I can think of is maybe the release candidate firmware (20160104) and manager is a bit different in copying and pasting the code (I use a PC for the manager).
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: splinter36 on 07:42 AM - 01/22/16
Is it possible to bind a button twice so it will activate as if I double tap?
Also, will the curves in the first post work with the newest firmware/manager?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Ixian on 09:16 AM - 01/22/16
Doesn't he use 4k DPI?

Good question - looks like Natu has the same one. All the pics, etc. in his guide show 8k DPI but his sig says 4k. I'm using the same sens as in his config - I pasted the full one in to a new profile and worked off it.

I can try 4k but it feels pretty good to me at 8, to be honest.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 10:11 AM - 01/22/16
Hey natu, can you try to describe what you don't like about the acceleration? Are you talking about Hip or ADS? Are you using a KB or Sony Nav?

I just got home from a party and TBH, I'm dead tired. But I will follow up with your answers in the morning.

One quick suggestion. Some people have had issues with my setup because they're using a KB and assigning ADS to right click. That can be an issue because I assign ADS to the trigger of the NAV.

So, if you're using right click for ADS make sure you chg. ADS activation to right click.

I hope that helps.

Thanks for the quick reply, I'm just using a keyboard and mouse (logitech g400s @4k dpi, 500 hz). Hip is fine, to be honest, it's the ADS. I already switched the keys to right click so the ADS would activate (before I complained about the MA).

The hip has the same kind of problem, but for hip it doesn't really matter to me, it's just the ADS that makes it pretty annoying to snipe.

Edit1: I don't know if the sensitivity is the issue as per the above posts, but I can't really test a higher sens right now (servers are down), but the MA is pretty bad. I have a QcK+.

So,  imagine a number line up to 10, if I swipe slowly it will go from 1 to 10 (covering a longer distance), if i swipe quickly it will go from 1 to 5 (covering a shorter distance).

Edit2: What is your DPI exactly when you made this Destiny setup? I know your signature says 4K, but in the pictures where you show your key setup for your mouse its set at 8K.

Thing's I've tried, upping my sens to 50 / 22.25 (doubling it, assuming you had 8K dpi) -- makes the acceleration kind of worse but a bit easier to handle the ADS, I suppose, but it's just an insane amount of MA

Also, just to clarify your sensitivity setting in destiny is set to max (10), correct? I'm just trying to figure out if I looked over something,

Edit3: Before, I go to bed, the only thing I can think of is maybe the release candidate firmware (20160104) and manager is a bit different in copying and pasting the code (I use a PC for the manager).

I set this up at 8,000 DPI. I switched to 4000 dpi for BO3, I haven't tested 4000 dpi with Destiny but by doubling your sens you should be close to what I was experiencing at 8000.

I added the acceleration to ADS because of Aim Assist on consoles. Sniper rifles are a bit of a known issue with a curve like this, I used to have other settings just for sniper that I removed because things were getting a little too confusing.

You can simply remove the acceleration by removing the ballistic curve.

It should be noted that ALOT of people never use Advanced Settings and swear by pure 1:1. I'm not one of them! However, my setups aren't for everyone. We all have our personal preferences. I will never use 1:1 with Destiny because the turn speed with HIP, Sparrow and Sprint is just TOO slow for me. ADS is a possibility for using the Vanilla ST, but you would have to raise your sens even higher then my settings and Aim Assist will be stronger. Still, some people like strong AA and in your case with sniping that may be true for you. The key to getting your sensitivity as high as possible really comes down to TWO things.

1. Riding the red light. It's ok to get the red light flash for exceeding the turn limit just don't over due it. Another words, I don't care if it's flashing so long as my mouse movement reflects what I'm seeing on the screen. If you feel like your wasting movement, then your sens is too high. OR

2. Use consistent mouse movement. I've said this now probably a thousand times on this forum and it's probably the single most important rule for all XIM users. You need to use slower consistent mouse movement in order to achieve the fastest turn speed possible. I suggest not swiping your mouse further then 6 inches per second. Twitch movements (like on PC) will not register properly with XIM. This is because of the console games Turn speed limits.

The bottom line is this isn't PC and IMO you pretty much need MA to make this game more enjoyable to play. I'm not pleased with it either, but it is the nature of the beast with games like this on console  unfortunately.

You can only use these curves and codes with the latest firmware/manager. If you go back to 1114 you won't be able to paste them correctly, it will just be squiggly lines!

Is it possible to bind a button twice so it will activate as if I double tap?
Also, will the curves in the first post work with the newest firmware/manager?

This is only possible with a macro, see a few post back for your first answer. Second answer, YES and only with the latest firmware/manager. By latest I mean the latest in the release candidate section.  ;)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Ixian on 02:59 PM - 01/22/16
I knew there was a reason it felt "right" at 8k dpi :)

Agree with you re: Destiny. The COD games, BF, etc. you can more or less get away with 1:1, in fact unless you really know what you are doing curves will make it worse, but for this game (and I would maybe include Halo 5 as well) curves are pretty much mandatory. Sprinting alone in Destiny is a real problem without them; with RML's config it is pretty spot on.

Glad I updated to the g502 and not just for this, it is a pretty sweet mouse (and is on sale now because the new version - which just has flashier lights - is out).
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: natu-_- on 08:39 PM - 01/22/16
It makes sense why it felt so bad at 4K DPI. If you have mouse acceleration and your sensitivity is slow, it's unbearable. I haven't tried anything today, but at the very least I know that was probably the problem.

Does a 1:1 curve honestly remove mouse accelleration? I remember playing it on default settings and it felt kind of bad. I do have a question, though.

So, from what I have gathered the Xim 4 can't maybe handle me swiping my mouse super fast on my big mousepad. If I had a mouse with higher DPI would it be able to handle faster swiping? Or is it just the games limit and me buying a mouse that can achieve more than 4K DPI would be useless?

Edit: I mean my goal is to play with a slow sensitivity with no MA, is that possible? Playing at basically the sens you had cut in half is what I like.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: mano154 on 10:31 PM - 01/22/16
Hi RML

Can you please help me with a sniper curve , that's all I use TLW+sniper.  The problem I'm facing is I'm missing shots so close to the head. Thank you
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: TheWalt on 10:44 AM - 01/23/16
All right- another update from my continued XIM4 evolution. 

I've been continuing to tinker with my button layout, as I understand the concepts of having the different setups for different situations (HIPS, ADS, sprint, sparrow).  Ignoring the sparrow setup for now since PVP is my main reason for trying to improve my game, I'm fully on board with HIPS and ADS, but I have a question about the Sprint setup. (which is why I veered away from RML's original setup of dedicated sprint button on the NAV and went with my old school '90s PC FPS concept of ADS with right button).

It seems to me like Sprint in Destiny is activated by pressing the left stick, and then you'll be in sprint mode for brief period of time.  Then things like hitting B to slide, or X to reload, will drop you out of sprint mode, requiring you to press the left stick again when you want to start running again.  I'm not even certain whether or not you'll drop out of sprint mode if you get 'tired' like in other FPS games.  Understanding how Destiny treats Sprint would go a long way in helping me get a good XIM4 setup.

How often do you guys use Sprint Mode?  Do you just press and hold it when you want to Sprint or do you need to re-press often to maintain the sprint mode?

The Sony NAV controller doesn't ergonomically feel that great to me, and the G13 button layouts don't feel great either (especially when trying to dedicate a sprint key, which I personally am holding down the majority of the time).  I just had my own personal Eureka moment yesterday when I picked up the Xbox gamepad to use in my left hand, while using the mouse in my right.  WOW.  the only ergonomic issue I see there is the weight of the right side of the controller, but I can just rest in on my armrest.  So I feel this was a big breakthrough personally for me, and the 2 or 3 matches I've played with this setup have been my best performances so far with XIM.  I still need to tweak some of the layouts of where melee's and grenades are coming from, but I think I'm on the right track, and might start looking at a Sparrow setup to use XIM full time in Destiny instead of just PVP.

Thanks for the continued discussion, and great videos RML, you're doing a great service to the community!

TheWalt

ps.
Has there been any talk of being able to work on XIM profiles in an 'offline' mode?  Where you don't need to be connected to the XIM by bluetooth?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 12:00 PM - 01/23/16
All right- another update from my continued XIM4 evolution. 

I've been continuing to tinker with my button layout, as I understand the concepts of having the different setups for different situations (HIPS, ADS, sprint, sparrow).  Ignoring the sparrow setup for now since PVP is my main reason for trying to improve my game, I'm fully on board with HIPS and ADS, but I have a question about the Sprint setup. (which is why I veered away from RML's original setup of dedicated sprint button on the NAV and went with my old school '90s PC FPS concept of ADS with right button).

It seems to me like Sprint in Destiny is activated by pressing the left stick, and then you'll be in sprint mode for brief period of time.  Then things like hitting B to slide, or X to reload, will drop you out of sprint mode, requiring you to press the left stick again when you want to start running again.  I'm not even certain whether or not you'll drop out of sprint mode if you get 'tired' like in other FPS games.  Understanding how Destiny treats Sprint would go a long way in helping me get a good XIM4 setup.

How often do you guys use Sprint Mode?  Do you just press and hold it when you want to Sprint or do you need to re-press often to maintain the sprint mode?

The Sony NAV controller doesn't ergonomically feel that great to me, and the G13 button layouts don't feel great either (especially when trying to dedicate a sprint key, which I personally am holding down the majority of the time).  I just had my own personal Eureka moment yesterday when I picked up the Xbox gamepad to use in my left hand, while using the mouse in my right.  WOW.  the only ergonomic issue I see there is the weight of the right side of the controller, but I can just rest in on my armrest.  So I feel this was a big breakthrough personally for me, and the 2 or 3 matches I've played with this setup have been my best performances so far with XIM.  I still need to tweak some of the layouts of where melee's and grenades are coming from, but I think I'm on the right track, and might start looking at a Sparrow setup to use XIM full time in Destiny instead of just PVP.

Thanks for the continued discussion, and great videos RML, you're doing a great service to the community!

TheWalt

ps.
Has there been any talk of being able to work on XIM profiles in an 'offline' mode?  Where you don't need to be connected to the XIM by bluetooth?

Pretty much everything you're describing is EXACTLY why I decided to use HOLD behavior instead of toggle for the Sprint config. and why I said otherwise it's very frustrating at times. There are a lot of variables with this game while sprinting. The one's I remember, ADS, Reload, Slide and fire all disable sprint. Keep in mind XIM4 didn't have the toggle deactivation keys when I created this. That feature was added later. So now those deactivation keys could be used to help you toggle sprint so that you don't get stuck in your sprint config while NOT sprinting.

However, there's still one little problem with the games mechanics that still leads me to believe that HOLD behavior is the best option. If you sprint for awhile your character becomes tired. So if you stop sprinting while the character is tired you have to wait a few seconds before you're capable of sprinting again. So if you're using toggle mode and you try to sprint, and your character refuses, you now find yourself still in HIP mode but you've activated the sprint config. Then, when you press sprint again and your character starts sprinting, you've just deactivated sprint and you're now sprinting with the HIP config.

Good Luck!  ;)

BTW, if you're enjoying the analog movement of using your controller I would suggest giving the NAV another try and just stick with it for about a week, force it!  :P

I didn't like the NAV at first either and I'm still not a huge fan. But IMO analog movement trumps KB movement and you can get used to the NAV. It takes a bit of practice though for sure.


Hi RML

Can you please help me with a sniper curve , that's all I use TLW+sniper.  The problem I'm facing is I'm missing shots so close to the head. Thank you

I'll look around and see if I still have my old settings somewhere. The real problem though is almost every sniper rifle has different aim assist, which gun are you using?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: mano154 on 12:36 PM - 01/23/16

Hi RML

Can you please help me with a sniper curve , that's all I use TLW+sniper.  The problem I'm facing is I'm missing shots so close to the head. Thank you

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I'll look around and see if I still have my old settings somewhere. The real problem though is almost every sniper rifle has different aim assist, which gun are you using?


Thank you for replying
I'm using the 1000 yard stare
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: thepr0 on 03:25 PM - 01/23/16
quick question rml i dont use angle snapping for FPS do you think it feels better with Destiny aim assist? i've been using your setup but i switch to HIP transalator for my ADS because it helps sniping i wonder if angle snappin makes it better or worst..
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: TheWalt on 05:48 PM - 01/23/16

Pretty much everything you're describing is EXACTLY why I decided to use HOLD behavior instead of toggle for the Sprint config. and why I said otherwise it's very frustrating at times. There are a lot of variables with this game while sprinting. The one's I remember, ADS, Reload, Slide and fire all disable sprint. Keep in mind XIM4 didn't have the toggle deactivation keys when I created this. That feature was added later. So now those deactivation keys could be used to help you toggle sprint so that you don't get stuck in your sprint config while NOT sprinting.

However, there's still one little problem with the games mechanics that still leads me to believe that HOLD behavior is the best option. If you sprint for awhile your character becomes tired. So if you stop sprinting while the character is tired you have to wait a few seconds before you're capable of sprinting again. So if you're using toggle mode and you try to sprint, and your character refuses, you now find yourself still in HIP mode but you've activated the sprint config. Then, when you press sprint again and your character starts sprinting, you've just deactivated sprint and you're now sprinting with the HIP config.

Good Luck!  ;)

BTW, if you're enjoying the analog movement of using your controller I would suggest giving the NAV another try and just stick with it for about a week, force it!  :P

I didn't like the NAV at first either and I'm still not a huge fan. But IMO analog movement trumps KB movement and you can get used to the NAV. It takes a bit of practice though for sure.


I've got the Xbox Elite controller, so I can reprogram the keys to emulate the NAV setup you have; plus I don't have to sacrifice ergonomics (other than hefting the whole joystick in my right hand).  Plus I have the Left Upper and Lower Paddles to use at my discretion (currently I have them disabled as accidental hits are worse than having that flexibility sometimes).

So for me, Xbox Controller > Sony NAV > KB for my left hand  ;).

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: ScopeLoc on 08:11 PM - 01/23/16
Hey did you watch YouTube where gut put the felt stickers under paddles. My friend tried and it helped him.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Rotsen on 06:49 PM - 01/24/16
@RML do you have any specific setup for Shadestepping? For me having to reach for LCTRL while hitting WASD is really hard.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 07:50 AM - 01/25/16
quick question rml i dont use angle snapping for FPS do you think it feels better with Destiny aim assist? i've been using your setup but i switch to HIP transalator for my ADS because it helps sniping i wonder if angle snappin makes it better or worst..

Honestly, IDK! I always use AS, I can say others have mentioned that AS does help with AA in BO3.



Hi RML

Can you please help me with a sniper curve , that's all I use TLW+sniper.  The problem I'm facing is I'm missing shots so close to the head. Thank you

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I'll look around and see if I still have my old settings somewhere. The real problem though is almost every sniper rifle has different aim assist, which gun are you using?


Thank you for replying
I'm using the 1000 yard stare

Sry man, I must have lost all that stuff over one of the manager upgrades.  :(



@RML do you have any specific setup for Shadestepping? For me having to reach for LCTRL while hitting WASD is really hard.

I answered this a few post back for another member. You should PM him and see if he can help you with the appropriate delay settings.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: splinter36 on 07:25 PM - 01/25/16
I'm not understanding how to setup the sprint config.  My turning is super slow when sprinting  - looking into how to remedy that. Thanks!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 08:26 AM - 01/27/16
I'm not understanding how to setup the sprint config.  My turning is super slow when sprinting  - looking into how to remedy that. Thanks!

PM'd you  ;)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: theravenclaw44 on 10:33 AM - 01/27/16
RML,

Brand new XIM user here. Just got mine yesterday. I am 95% a PC gamer but have been interested in Destiny for a while so the XIM seemed like a good idea. I have been following this thread since Christmas so that I would be ready to get my XIM setup when it arrived.

While I have to learn to use slower movements than on the PC, these curves feel very good. I tried the base Destiny setup first so I would have something to compare and RML's curves feel very solid.

Thank you very much for taking the time to write the original guide and for continuing to answer questions in the thread.

You rock RML!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 07:00 PM - 01/27/16
^ I'm glad it worked out for you man.

 :)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: jaydee on 06:53 AM - 01/29/16
So I've been using a xim for years but not once have i tried curves/codes etc... basically because i have absolutely no idea how... In reading this post i see a "sprint tab", all i know how to do is make the tab and name it.. Am i supposed to put some code somewhere to make it work? sorry i'm just very confused.

I'm a flatout sniper using either 1000 yard or Her Benevolence, I want to be able to turn fast suddenly and or while sprinting, and I would like to try the curve/ other curves for sniping.
Any chance someone could give me steps on how and where i'm putting the code etc?
I also can't see anywhere where it has the "Turn Assist" and "steady aim" options are like shown in the pics..?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 01:54 PM - 01/29/16
^ The easiest way to do it is to just copy/paste my entire setup and then tweak it to your liking. You can learn how to do this by visiting the "Advanced Settings" link in my signature. However, it sounds like you're not running compatible Firmware/manager to use my setup. You'll have to upgrade to the latest drop in the release candidate section. Beware though, if you upgrade you'll probably lose all your settings and configs. and have to start from scratch.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Rotsen on 09:00 PM - 02/03/16
RML not sure if you have macros on your mouse, but I use a Logitech G600 and I'm able to use on board memory to save my DPI and keybinds, but there's no way to save macros. Do i need a different mouse?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: VTEC on 04:27 PM - 02/04/16
Can someone explain how to setup the multikey function on the mouse in LGS? For K1, heavy weapon, which button press does that correspond to? Like the 1 button sparrow config, I've set up the macro as shown in the video, but confused as I don't think my buttons correspond properly. Am I supposed to plug in the Nav or Keyboard I'm using to my pc and press those buttons that I have mapped?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 11:42 PM - 02/04/16
Can someone explain how to setup the multikey function on the mouse in LGS? For K1, heavy weapon, which button press does that correspond to? Like the 1 button sparrow config, I've set up the macro as shown in the video, but confused as I don't think my buttons correspond properly. Am I supposed to plug in the Nav or Keyboard I'm using to my pc and press those buttons that I have mapped?

Just pick the button on the mouse you want to assign the macro and then set your macro to whatever Keystroke you want, I used "0" I believe in the video. Add a 1.8ms delay between down and up and your done with LGS.

Now go to Secondary buttons in manager and assign keystroke 0 to Y. Yes you will have to have a KB plugged in to do this in manager. However, after that you can disconnect the KB if you want. It doesn't have to be plugged in all the time for it to work.

Hope that helps.



RML not sure if you have macros on your mouse, but I use a Logitech G600 and I'm able to use on board memory to save my DPI and keybinds, but there's no way to save macros. Do i need a different mouse?

If your mouse doesn't have onboard memory then macros won't work with XIM4 and console, only PC. Are you sure your mouse doesn't have onboard memory though? I find that hard to believe considering most of there line up uses the same software.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: VTEC on 03:42 AM - 02/05/16

Just pick the button on the mouse you want to assign the macro and then set your macro to whatever Keystroke you want, I used "0" I believe in the video. Add a 1.8ms delay between down and up and your done with LGS.

Now go to Secondary buttons in manager and assign keystroke 0 to Y. Yes you will have to have a KB plugged in to do this in manager. However, after that you can disconnect the KB if you want. It doesn't have to be plugged in all the time for it to work.

Hope that helps.

Ok, I think I understand. Last question. What is the delay for going into orbit? Mainly if you have a fireteam as it is longer than when you are solo.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: psychonox on 01:51 PM - 02/06/16
Man o man...

I just got my XIM4 like 2 weeks ago. My main game is Destiny and then i found your thread. I must say thanks! Your config was rock solid, curves? perfect!

The only thing I had to adjust is the turning speed for everything but apart from that these are @#$% fine!

THanks man!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 02:02 PM - 02/06/16

Ok, I think I understand. Last question. What is the delay for going into orbit? Mainly if you have a fireteam as it is longer than when you are solo.

Sry man I don't, just add like .5 to the delay until in works.
Title: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Bonjah on 12:55 PM - 02/10/16
RML, this is little off topic. But will you create your own settings for Division? Im a big fan of both your cod and destiny settings, and really hope u will jump on the division train also. Cheers on your top notch work here![emoji108]
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 09:12 AM - 02/11/16
RML, this is little off topic. But will you create your own settings for Division? Im a big fan of both your cod and destiny settings, and really hope u will jump on the division train also. Cheers on your top notch work here![emoji108]

I'm on the fence right now with The Division. I was pretty excited about it but the gameplay I've seen doesn't look too appealing right now with so many other games out there. I still have to finish Witcher, Fallout 4, Halo 5 and I haven't played ANY of the Fallen King DLC yet.

I'll keep my eye on Division but I won't have it on release for sure. (it's not out yet, is it?)  ???

I'm glad my other setups worked well for you.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: matthewk85 on 06:57 PM - 02/11/16
Hey RML, long time user of your Destiny setup (but mapped a little different for personal comfort), so much so i haven't checked back in a while.
Have just been looking through the running and sparrow profiles which i never bothered to implement as i was fine without, going to give them a trial now. In regards to not using run as toggle, would it not be a viable option to having multiple deactivation keys such as ADS, melee, crouch etc. whilst in toggle?
Unfortunately it's a feature I wasn't aware of, so I'm not sure how many keys are available to allocate to deactivation.

Cheers,
Matt
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: ArcEmb on 04:38 AM - 02/12/16
Hello RML,

i´m using ur config on PS4 with a G502. sometimes it feels strange when i snipe.

my question is what DPI u are using and whats about the ADS or HIP translator on ADS? or Steady Aim?

is this important? or is something that must be changed on the config for the PS4?

thanks to u
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: realcoolioman on 02:59 PM - 02/12/16
RML, quick question. First off, this is really great. I've had the XIM for two months and have been changing my settings every few days cause it just didn't feel right. Your walkthrough here makes it so much easier!

That being said, is there something wrong with the ballistics code? It doesn't look like it's in the right format and pasting it gives some funky results for me.

Here's your post's ballistics curve for Hip:

Code: [Select]
>>> XIM4 [Mouse Ballistics] START PASTE >>>
X4MB:AAAAGgA0AC4AMAAwAC4AMgAwADEANQAxADEAMgAwAA0aJzRBTlxreoyescjIyMjIyMjI:X4MB
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

Here's what the normal ballistics code format from a Xim looks like:

Code: [Select]
>>> XIM4 START Paste >>>
X4MB:000208111B293C46505A646E78828C96A0AAB4BEC8
<<< XIM4 END   Paste <<<

Is there a bunch of extra code in there? When I paste yours into the graph on Xim, this is the result: http://imgur.com/kDFlvWC (http://imgur.com/kDFlvWC) (http://i.imgur.com/kDFlvWC.png)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: R3MiX on 05:07 PM - 02/12/16
You got the wrong firmware. That's why it looks like that.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Jcozmo on 05:32 PM - 02/12/16
First I just want to say thank you for all the work you are sharing here. It's much appreciated.

And I'm sorry if this is a terrible question, but I was able to copy paste your whole setup here, using the same hardware, however I'm on PS4, and for some reason my mouse doesn't seem to let me acces the buttons you have labeled as k1-k3. I've gone thru the settings on Logitech software, and in manager it recognizes all other mouse buttons, can't quite figure out why these buttons are in accessible.

Again I apologize if this is off topic and had nothing to do with this setup, but I thought I'd ask, everything else seems to work as described.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: flst81 on 07:48 PM - 02/12/16
In LGS did you reassign those K1-K3 to keyboard buttons?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: flst81 on 07:50 PM - 02/12/16
You got the wrong firmware. That's why it looks like that.

I was thinking it was one of Dr . b's  curves
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Jcozmo on 07:54 PM - 02/12/16
In LGS did you reassign those K1-K3 to keyboard buttons?

No, I must have missed that step or it was a given that I should know that. Does it matter which keys?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: flst81 on 09:12 PM - 02/12/16
just make sure it's not keys that you already have assigned
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: R3MiX on 10:43 PM - 02/12/16
No I mean the XIMs firmware.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: realcoolioman on 12:54 AM - 02/13/16
You got the wrong firmware. That's why it looks like that.

R3MiX, I have firmware 4.00.20141114, which is the latest firmware. Is there any way to update the code/graphs to work with the latest firmware or should we just eyeball it?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: R3MiX on 01:14 AM - 02/13/16
You got the wrong firmware. That's why it looks like that.

R3MiX, I have firmware 4.00.20141114, which is the latest firmware. Is there any way to update the code/graphs to work with the latest firmware or should we just eyeball it?
That is not the current firmware. Go to
XIM4/Downloads/Release Candidates/20160121 Firmware.

Download both Firmware and Manager.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 09:46 AM - 02/13/16
Hey RML, long time user of your Destiny setup (but mapped a little different for personal comfort), so much so i haven't checked back in a while.
Have just been looking through the running and sparrow profiles which i never bothered to implement as i was fine without, going to give them a trial now. In regards to not using run as toggle, would it not be a viable option to having multiple deactivation keys such as ADS, melee, crouch etc. whilst in toggle?
Unfortunately it's a feature I wasn't aware of, so I'm not sure how many keys are available to allocate to deactivation.

Cheers,
Matt

The problem with run in Destiny is your character gets tired after running for a bit. Sure having several deactivation keys can help you stay on the right ST but it still could cause a few issues I imagine. The deactivation keys didn't exist when I first created this setup though.



Hello RML,

i´m using ur config on PS4 with a G502. sometimes it feels strange when i snipe.

my question is what DPI u are using and whats about the ADS or HIP translator on ADS? or Steady Aim?

is this important? or is something that must be changed on the config for the PS4?

thanks to u


I was using 8000 dpi when I created this and I used HIP ST for HIP and ADS for ADS. I've never tried the HIP ST with ADS but imagine it would probably feel really slow. If anything I would try ADS ST with both HIP and ADS if you're having sniping issues. The biggest problem with Destiny is the different ADS delay times and Aim Assist from weapon to weapon. There's really no solid setting that works across every gun unfortunately.



Thanks to everyone helping other members in this thread, I appreciate it.  :)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: realcoolioman on 10:02 AM - 02/13/16
That is not the current firmware. Go to
XIM4/Downloads/Release Candidates/20160121 Firmware.

Download both Firmware and Manager.

Thanks so much, R3MiX. Sorry for seeming like a noob here. It's because I am lol. I was going off the info here: http://xim4.com/community/index.php?board=81.0

Should be good to go now! :-)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: R3MiX on 10:57 AM - 02/13/16
That is not the current firmware. Go to
XIM4/Downloads/Release Candidates/20160121 Firmware.

Download both Firmware and Manager.

Thanks so much, R3MiX. Sorry for seeming like a noob here. It's because I am lol. I was going off the info here: http://xim4.com/community/index.php?board=81.0

Should be good to go now! :-)

No Problem. Feel free to add me on psn. You can join up with me,raven,spidey,and others for some destiny action.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: marhag81 on 05:19 PM - 02/13/16
Hey RML,

Thanks for the setup.

In return, I'll post my pics of your setup. It helped me alot after I needed a overview of your buttons and so that I could replace them with my old button setup, but in your order to make the setup work.

Hope this can help make it easier for someone else as well.

(http://i.imgur.com/zumRR9k.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/PpzICJt.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/4lrHSKy.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/3QfJRuC.png)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: flst81 on 07:40 PM - 02/13/16
Marhag81, don't forget to add your mouse DPI  so people know
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 07:34 AM - 02/14/16
Thanks for taking the time to share that marhag81.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: splinter36 on 10:54 AM - 02/15/16
How can I increase vertical sensitivity only?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: thepr0 on 11:02 AM - 02/15/16
RML do you still use angle snappin on your mouse settings?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 06:17 PM - 02/15/16
How can I increase vertical sensitivity only?

Just increase your Y,X ratio number. Default is 1.0 I would suggest adding .2 at a time until the desired result is met/

1.2, 1.4, etc.



RML do you still use angle snappin on your mouse settings?

Yep! But that's with Logitech mice, I can't vouch for any other brand.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: TheWalt on 02:08 PM - 02/16/16
Just wanted to check in again on this thread.  I can offiicially say that I'm as good or better now with the XIM4 setup as I ever was with the joystick.  When first trying out the XIM4, I made a lot of changes to RML's setup to what I thought would feel better for me, but RML had reasons for setting things up the way he did, and I've come to see the light in most, if not all, of his decisions. 
I've got the option to play with either the NAV controller or the left half of my Elite controller (it's nice having two paddles as additional control options).  I just updated to the latest firmware (Jan 2016), which went as smooth as could be, and I didn't even have to reload my custom Destiny profile.  I also got the NAV controller connected wirelessly to the XIM, and boy, not having that usb cord attached is niiiice and helps with some of the ergonomic issues I had with the NAV.

Thanks for staying tuned to this thread RML.  I need to go research angle snapping now to see how it impacts me. :) 
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: splinter36 on 03:32 PM - 02/16/16
I cannot get XIM4 to recognize the macro I created with my G402.  How do I get a "double-tap" to be recognized? I followed the tutorial but I still have to press it twice. I put a delay between the key press (up and down) of 500 (.50) and every tenth of a fraction in between - nothing works.

Any suggestions? Is it just the button I'm mapping? It's recognized in XIM as the button I'm trying to map but in game it does not respond the way I want it to.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: TheWalt on 05:05 PM - 02/16/16
EDIT:
I think this may be your problem:

In the XIM software, do not map the physical mouse button you're using to program your macros in LGS.


My first, probably hard to understand response, follows:

So you need to separate out the button mapping in the XIM4 software from the commands in your LGS.  RML has secondary mappings to the joystick buttons, which are the keyboard mappings he uses when programming macros. 

For instance, he has MScrollDown mapped on Primary to his Y button (triangle on PS4).  So that's what he uses to switch weapons.  He as KPad0 mapped on Secondary to his Y button (triangle on PS4).  So he uses KPad0 in the LGS software (press KPad0, hold 1.8s, release KPad0), mapped to the K1 button on the mouse.  So when he presses K1 (which is not mapped in the XIM software), the XIM will see the macro that is being run from the on board mouse memory, and his Heavy Weapon will be equipped.

Does that make sense?  I think you might be mapping your programmed mouse button from LGS to XIM, so XIM will interpret that before the macro ever has a chance to work.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: TheWalt on 05:12 PM - 02/16/16
EDIT:
I think this may be your problem:

In the XIM software, do not map the physical mouse button you're using to program your macros in LGS.
You may need to add a keyboard to the XIM and map those buttons as a source for what your LGS macros will be programmed to do, unless you're starting from RML's setup.


My first, probably hard to understand response, follows:

So you need to separate out the button mapping in the XIM4 software from the commands in your LGS.  RML has secondary mappings to the joystick buttons, which are the keyboard mappings he uses when programming macros. 

For instance, he has MScrollDown mapped on Primary to his Y button (triangle on PS4).  So that's what he uses to switch weapons.  He as KPad0 mapped on Secondary to his Y button (triangle on PS4).  So he uses KPad0 in the LGS software (press KPad0, hold 1.8s, release KPad0), mapped to the K1 button on the mouse.  So when he presses K1 (which is not mapped in the XIM software), the XIM will see the macro that is being run from the on board mouse memory, and his Heavy Weapon will be equipped.

Does that make sense?  I think you might be mapping your programmed mouse button from LGS to XIM, so XIM will interpret that before the macro ever has a chance to work.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 08:21 PM - 02/16/16
^ I think you nailed it!  ;)

You NEVER want to assign an in game command to a button that will be used for a Macro. If you do XIM4 will execute the in game command first or it may even override the macro making it useless. As TheWalt mentioned about my Macro for Heavy Weapon. I use the snipe button on the G502 to activate the macro and that's all I use it for. I have NO button commands assigned to it that would act out in game when pressed. You only want it to run the script and nothing else. The script will tell manager what the in game command/commands should be.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: splinter36 on 09:59 PM - 02/16/16
Yeah, so my commands look like crouch = ctrl, jump = space, move forward =w etc etc.

Is that not what it should look like? I guess it's supposed to be controller configs, or kpad9 etc. How can I map my own controls with that type of configuration? That's what I don't get.

I'm using a wireless keyboard and logitech g402 mouse.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: TheWalt on 09:31 AM - 02/17/16
The commands you're wanting to use in the LGS software need to be programmed in XIM. 
So from your example, I could program a macro for the right mouse button to jump, crouch, move forward, jump and crouch. 
In XIM, the commands would look exactly as you have them. 
In LGS, you would assign a macro to the right mouse button (press space, release space, press ctrl, release ctrl, press w, release w, press space, release space, press ctrl, release ctrl)

Right mouse button should not be mapped to anything in XIM (primary or secondary).  Now when you press right mouse button, the macro from LGS should kick in with the command sequence you programmed, and XIM will take those commands and perform them in the game.

Hopefully this helps.

-TheWalt

ps. to program your own controls, one way is to plug a keyboard into your XIM, and map all the buttons to separate keys on the Secondary tab.  Then you can use these mappings for all your macros, and use your Primary tab for direct input mappings into XIM.  Or you can save a physical step and just use RMLs configuration, and program your macros using his keymapping.  What you don't want to do is program multiple commands to the same button, or any key you're expecting to use as direct input.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 09:48 AM - 02/17/16
What are the exact commands for Shade step? How do you activate it?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: TheWalt on 11:47 AM - 02/17/16
What are the exact commands for Shade step? How do you activate it?
Shadestep is B, B on XB1 or circle, circle (same as Twilight Garrison activation for Titans who are in the air, I believe)

The RML config doesn't have circle/B mapped as a secondary input, so that would have to be added (perhaps KPad6? through use of a keyboard)

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: splinter36 on 01:33 PM - 02/17/16
I'm almost positive I mapped the macro as I was supposed to. I had the button defined as "ctrl" in XIM (which I want it to be) and CTRL is mapped to it as the macro in my logitech software. I have the ctrl up arrow, delay, and then down arrow mapped as the macro. When I press the button ingame though, I press it once, wait a lil, and press it again and then it functions as a double tap - but it does not do what I want. I want a single press of the putton to be a double tap of ctrl.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 04:08 PM - 02/17/16
I'm almost positive I mapped the macro as I was supposed to. I had the button defined as "ctrl" in XIM (which I want it to be) and CTRL is mapped to it as the macro in my logitech software. I have the ctrl up arrow, delay, and then down arrow mapped as the macro. When I press the button ingame though, I press it once, wait a lil, and press it again and then it functions as a double tap - but it does not do what I want. I want a single press of the putton to be a double tap of ctrl.


If I'm reading this right, you have your macro backwards. It should read:

CTRL Down arrow
Delay
CTRL Up arrow


Also, just to be clear, what button are you using to activate the macro?



Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: splinter36 on 04:37 PM - 02/17/16
Yeah, sorry, that's how I have it. Down then up.

It's this button: http://i.imgur.com/HHCSdKJ.jpg
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: TheWalt on 04:49 PM - 02/17/16
So for shadestep, the full macro should be:
↓ Ctrl
↑ Ctrl
⌚ 0.1 sec delay
↓ Ctrl
↑ Ctrl


That will press and release CTRL, wait 0.1 seconds, then press and release CTRL.  It sounds like your macro presses on CTRL, holds X seconds, and then releases it.  I'm not sure if 0.1 seconds is the right amount of time for a doubletap, but you can test it.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 05:49 PM - 02/17/16
Yeah, sorry, that's how I have it. Down then up.

It's this button: http://i.imgur.com/HHCSdKJ.jpg

Yeah, that was a test, FAILED!  :P

Lol ... JK



So for shadestep, the full macro should be:
↓ Ctrl
↑ Ctrl
⌚ 0.1 sec delay
↓ Ctrl
↑ Ctrl


That will press and release CTRL, wait 0.1 seconds, then press and release CTRL.  It sounds like your macro presses on CTRL, holds X seconds, and then releases it.  I'm not sure if 0.1 seconds is the right amount of time for a doubletap, but you can test it.

Nailed it!

The only thing, you might need a slight delay between up and down as well or it may not consistently register with XIM4. I think .05 is as low as you can go with 100% success.

So something like
.05
.1
.05

That should do it.



Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: splinter36 on 06:30 PM - 02/17/16
Would the .05 go after the first down press or the first up press?

Example:

ctrl down
.05
ctrl up
.01
control down
.05
ctrl up

or

ctrl down
ctrl up
.05
.01
.05
ctrl down
ctrl  up
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Bonjah on 12:35 AM - 02/18/16

Would the .05 go after the first down press or the first up press?

Example:

ctrl down
.05
ctrl up
.01
control down
.05
ctrl up

or

ctrl down
ctrl up
.05
.01
.05
ctrl down
ctrl  up
The first one ofc, otherwise its like .2 paus in the middle.[emoji6]
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: jvr2401 on 05:31 AM - 02/18/16
Apologies if this has already been asked.

I am about to update o the latest firmware but was just wondering if this destiny config will work as smoothly with the new release as it does on the firmware RML created it on.

Anybody already done this and have feedback?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: TheWalt on 08:35 AM - 02/18/16
Apologies if this has already been asked.

I am about to update o the latest firmware but was just wondering if this destiny config will work as smoothly with the new release as it does on the firmware RML created it on.

Anybody already done this and have feedback?
I copied my Destiny Config to the clipboard, thinking I would have to paste it back in.  I did not even have to do that.  I upgraded the firmware and software, and everything worked as smooth as it did before.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: splinter36 on 09:58 AM - 02/18/16
Thanks for the help guys, got it.

JVR, the config works on the most updated firmware.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Sabbatai on 03:11 PM - 02/25/16
Never mind.  Figured it out.

Now I just have to go buy a KVM switch or a new mouse and keyboard.  Lol.  :(
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: katsuru on 03:19 PM - 02/26/16
I have got a question....

I use a G13 and G502 with Xim. How do I setup the G502 macros to trigger the G13 keys ? When I Want to use the sparrow I need to press G13 key on the G13 gamepad, I want to make like for example a Delay so I don't have to press the Key by myself the whole time until the sparrow is there.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 03:01 PM - 02/28/16
^ You can't unless the G13 has onboard memory.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: katsuru on 08:23 PM - 02/28/16
^ You can't unless the G13 has onboard memory.

It has, not sure how it works tho... I saved a profile on the onboard memory once and connected to xim, nothing was there anymore :D
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: flst81 on 08:38 PM - 02/28/16
Yes the G13 has onboard memory but, I believe that most settings are not saved when disconnected from a PC
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Rickstamatic on 08:58 AM - 03/04/16
Another shadestep question, does anyone have any ideas on how to achieve the following...

I want to trigger shadestep with a double click of w,a,s,d. If you played UT then you likely know why I want to do this. It's just an easy way to trigger shadestep in the direction of my choice.

Afaik, it's only possible to add one secondary button so I could only add O to one of w,a,s,d. The other issue if I do that and start to strafe ill just crouch.

I'm not holding out any hopes on this but thought I'd ask the question anyway...
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Bonjah on 03:57 AM - 03/05/16
Anyone with a setup with razor orbweaver and g502 mouse like to share theres totally string code? Atm I use the playstation nav. But want to test if the orb weaver act faster at closer fights there Im always in trouble right now.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Southern4x4 on 10:49 PM - 03/09/16
Great post. It's rare that people follow up and update.

Would your settings work with a PS4, XIM4, Razer Naga Expert and Razer Black Widow Tournament Edition Chroma?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: theravenclaw44 on 07:44 AM - 03/10/16
RML's curves will work with any setup. You will have to adjust your keybinds and XIM sensitivity based on your mouse/dpi of course.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Southern4x4 on 07:54 PM - 03/10/16
Thank you.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 05:48 AM - 03/11/16
Ditto
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: omglass on 08:13 AM - 03/11/16
Huge thank you to RML. I just got my Xim4 yesterday and tried using the pre-loaded config. I was frustrated because something felt a little off. I loaded the suggested settings RML posted here and the next Clash match I played I went 24-3. First time I've ever dominated like that in Destiny Crucible. I proceeded to make shots and play better than I ever have before. Destiny is one of my favorite games of all time, now I love it even more being able to use my mouse and keyboard. Thank you RML, and thank you Xim team!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Frasier0303 on 07:50 AM - 03/13/16
Hello ... this is Frasier from Germany. I got my XIM just 2 days ago and it was a god sent that I found this thread. My special thanks goes to RML. Without your postings I would still be stuck in my very first setup steps and had no idea how to make this thing work! After just 2 days and a few hours in this thread I have at least an understanding of how things come together ... configure my mouse with LGS and map it in the XIM-manager. But I still have some questions left since I am using a keyboard and mounse setup and have to make some adjustments to your configs. One thing I did not figure out by reading this thread is the following: there are several configs for different scenarios, like "hip", "ads", "sparrow", "running", etc. To activate these configs - as I understand it - you have to asign a button to each config and press it while playing. Since I can not asign a button for the standard config (hip), how I do get back to this after I choose lets say ADS by pressing the asigned button??? I could press still another button to go to "sparrow", but I have no idea how to get back to "hip"? Everything else I figured out and while I still have to find the best key layout for my needs (where to put the "super" or my "melee"-attack, your setup is a great starting point and enabled me to start playing with keyboard and mouse, which I have never done before  ;) So I would really appreciate, if you can find the time and answer my question in the near future. Thanks again for your great support. Sending a big HELLO from Germany  :) Best, Frasier
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: R3MiX on 10:22 AM - 03/13/16
@Fraser on those additional configs there should be a toggle/press option when you set it up. Choose an option to your preference.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 02:00 PM - 03/13/16
Hello ... this is Frasier from Germany. I got my XIM just 2 days ago and it was a god sent that I found this thread. My special thanks goes to RML. Without your postings I would still be stuck in my very first setup steps and had no idea how to make this thing work! After just 2 days and a few hours in this thread I have at least an understanding of how things come together ... configure my mouse with LGS and map it in the XIM-manager. But I still have some questions left since I am using a keyboard and mounse setup and have to make some adjustments to your configs. One thing I did not figure out by reading this thread is the following: there are several configs for different scenarios, like "hip", "ads", "sparrow", "running", etc. To activate these configs - as I understand it - you have to asign a button to each config and press it while playing. Since I can not asign a button for the standard config (hip), how I do get back to this after I choose lets say ADS by pressing the asigned button??? I could press still another button to go to "sparrow", but I have no idea how to get back to "hip"? Everything else I figured out and while I still have to find the best key layout for my needs (where to put the "super" or my "melee"-attack, your setup is a great starting point and enabled me to start playing with keyboard and mouse, which I have never done before  ;) So I would really appreciate, if you can find the time and answer my question in the near future. Thanks again for your great support. Sending a big HELLO from Germany  :) Best, Frasier

Hey Frasier0303, Welcome to the community!

You have tow options when activating sub configs, such as ADS, Sparrow, etc. You have "Hold and Toggle" behaviors. If you're using Hold, then it simply reverts back to hip when you release the button. If you're using toggle then you'll need to press the button once to activate the sub config, then press it again to de-activate the sub config and put you back to hip. There are also the config de-activation keys you can use while using toggle mode. These allow you to de-activate a subconfig for things like Reloading, jumping, firing, etc.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: gamerjmc on 07:59 PM - 03/13/16
All the time and effort spent on this, making it worthy of going into a guide book that you would pay for, definitely warrants a sticky.

Not to mention it's one of the most viewed, and I imagine one of the most used, topics on these forums.

Has helped me a ton and I think you for your clear descriptions and detail.  Bravo!

Thanks again!

--Crawley
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Frasier0303 on 03:47 AM - 03/14/16
Hello ... this is Frasier from Germany. I got my XIM just 2 days ago and it was a god sent that I found this thread. My special thanks goes to RML. Without your postings I would still be stuck in my very first setup steps and had no idea how to make this thing work! After just 2 days and a few hours in this thread I have at least an understanding of how things come together ... configure my mouse with LGS and map it in the XIM-manager. But I still have some questions left since I am using a keyboard and mounse setup and have to make some adjustments to your configs. One thing I did not figure out by reading this thread is the following: there are several configs for different scenarios, like "hip", "ads", "sparrow", "running", etc. To activate these configs - as I understand it - you have to asign a button to each config and press it while playing. Since I can not asign a button for the standard config (hip), how I do get back to this after I choose lets say ADS by pressing the asigned button??? I could press still another button to go to "sparrow", but I have no idea how to get back to "hip"? Everything else I figured out and while I still have to find the best key layout for my needs (where to put the "super" or my "melee"-attack, your setup is a great starting point and enabled me to start playing with keyboard and mouse, which I have never done before  ;) So I would really appreciate, if you can find the time and answer my question in the near future. Thanks again for your great support. Sending a big HELLO from Germany  :) Best, Frasier

Hey Frasier0303, Welcome to the community!

You have tow options when activating sub configs, such as ADS, Sparrow, etc. You have "Hold and Toggle" behaviors. If you're using Hold, then it simply reverts back to hip when you release the button. If you're using toggle then you'll need to press the button once to activate the sub config, then press it again to de-activate the sub config and put you back to hip. There are also the config de-activation keys you can use while using toggle mode. These allow you to de-activate a subconfig for things like Reloading, jumping, firing, etc.

Hi RML,
thank you for your swift response, very much appreciated here! One other question is lingering in my mind. When it comes to the ADS config. Is it recommended to set the activation key on the same key on the mouse as the key to ADS (the actual aiming)? When I put it on "hold" then it should fall back to HIP once I release the ADS-key, right? Or do I miss here something? I am just wondering what the best setting would be for me. I play PvP most of the times, so I am happy with hip and ads on most of the times. Still have to figure out how "running" fits my playing style. Best, Frasier
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 08:36 AM - 03/14/16
Yes, it is imperative that you assign the button you press for ADS to ADS activation. If you do not then you won't be activating that config when pressing the button, you'll never leave the Hip config. You can tell when a config is activated by the color flash on the XIM4. Typically Hip is Yellow and ADS is Green. So when you press the ADS button you should see the XIM4 flash Green for a sec. When you let go of the button you should see XIM4 flash Yellow.

Hold behavior is the default setup for ADS. So that's how it should work out of the box unless you chg. ADS to toggle mode. Some PC players like to toggle ADS, I personally don't, but it's all personal preference and totally up to you and what you're used to.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Frasier0303 on 08:42 AM - 03/14/16
Hi RML ... thanks again man! So I guess I am all set for the moment ;) Best, Frasier
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: R3MiX on 09:08 AM - 03/14/16
Has anyone done the shadestep script that is working right? I can't seem to get the timing right. If so can you PM the script to me?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: patchm00 on 09:09 AM - 03/14/16
Has anyone done the shadestep script that is working right? I can't seem to get the timing right. If so can you PM the script to me?

And send to me too :)  i can't seem to get it going well with hunter or the titan using twilight garrison. 
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: fredthesandwich on 01:28 PM - 03/14/16
This is absoulutley amazing. Just getting back into using my XIM4 again and noticed this setup. Taking me a while to figure some things out but as far as I can tell things are going great at the moment but have a few questions.

I noticed in your Logitech video at the end of your first post that you are set to 4000 DPI instead of the full 12000, any reason for this?

Also would it be best to use this on max in game sensitivity (10)?

When you use your sparrow you use the scroll wheel left to activate and always use scroll wheel right on the G502 to exit the sparrow and go back to HIP profile?

And one last thing, how to secondary profiles work? Like secondary HIP profile with different buttons?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 03:46 PM - 03/14/16
Hi RML ... thanks again man! So I guess I am all set for the moment ;) Best, Frasier

You're welcome


This is absoulutley amazing. Just getting back into using my XIM4 again and noticed this setup. Taking me a while to figure some things out but as far as I can tell things are going great at the moment but have a few questions.

I noticed in your Logitech video at the end of your first post that you are set to 4000 DPI instead of the full 12000, any reason for this?

Also would it be best to use this on max in game sensitivity (10)?

When you use your sparrow you use the scroll wheel left to activate and always use scroll wheel right on the G502 to exit the sparrow and go back to HIP profile?

And one last thing, how to secondary profiles work? Like secondary HIP profile with different buttons?

Thanks.

- I use 4000 DPI for BO3, I haven't played Destiny in months Lol ... However, I did it because STv2 feels too jittery to me at 12000 dpi. I haven't tested it with Destiny yet. Although I preferred 8000 to 12000 with destiny on STv1, so ... I'm thinking I would probably go with 4000 on Destiny as well.

- Yes, always use max in game sensitivity because that's how the ST is trained.

- Yes I use scroll left to macro in the sparrow. However, I created this guide before a few new features were added to XIM4. One of those new features is Deactivation keys. So you no longer need a macro for exiting the sparrow, all you need to do is assign the jump button as a deactivation key for the Sparrow sub config. Then, always use jump to get off the sparrow and it will automatically deactivate the sparrow config and put you back into Hip.

- Secondary profiles work by assigning an activation key to them. Then when that button is pushed you activate your sub config. Subs are used for many things, such as: Vehicles, Sprinting, Kill streaks, ADS (yes ADS is a sub config), menu navigation, etc.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Bonjah on 06:45 PM - 03/14/16

Hi RML ... thanks again man! So I guess I am all set for the moment ;) Best, Frasier

You're welcome


This is absoulutley amazing. Just getting back into using my XIM4 again and noticed this setup. Taking me a while to figure some things out but as far as I can tell things are going great at the moment but have a few questions.

I noticed in your Logitech video at the end of your first post that you are set to 4000 DPI instead of the full 12000, any reason for this?

Also would it be best to use this on max in game sensitivity (10)?

When you use your sparrow you use the scroll wheel left to activate and always use scroll wheel right on the G502 to exit the sparrow and go back to HIP profile?

And one last thing, how to secondary profiles work? Like secondary HIP profile with different buttons?

Thanks.

- I use 4000 DPI for BO3, I haven't played Destiny in months Lol ... However, I did it because STv2 feels too jittery to me at 12000 dpi. I haven't tested it with Destiny yet. Although I preferred 8000 to 12000 with destiny on STv1, so ... I'm thinking I would probably go with 4000 on Destiny as well.

- Yes, always use max in game sensitivity because that's how the ST is trained.

- Yes I use scroll left to macro in the sparrow. However, I created this guide before a few new features were added to XIM4. One of those new features is Deactivation keys. So you no longer need a macro for exiting the sparrow, all you need to do is assign the jump button as a deactivation key for the Sparrow sub config. Then, always use jump to get off the sparrow and it will automatically deactivate the sparrow config and put you back into Hip.

- Secondary profiles work by assigning an activation key to them. Then when that button is pushed you activate your sub config. Subs are used for many things, such as: Vehicles, Sprinting, Kill streaks, ADS (yes ADS is a sub config), menu navigation, etc.
So the first page aint updated for v2?  Im gonna try out it with 4000 instead for 8000 that im using now. Also nice that there is a button free now with the deactive keys. U should update this master piece mate.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 09:33 PM - 03/14/16
^ Actually, looking back at it now, I already updated the OP with how to use the deactivation key for Sparrow. I just never updated the pics for my mouse and nav assignments (it's just too much work for a game I haven't played in months, hell I might not even understand it myself anymore, haha ..).
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Frasier0303 on 03:00 PM - 03/15/16
I noticed on my XIM4 that when I switch configs (by holding an activation key for example) the lights on the XIM change just for a second and jump back to the standard color. Does this mean, the config does not stay active even if I hold the activation key (I do not have it on "Toggle")? I feel unsecure about this and hopefully someone can answer my question ... thank you, Frasier
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 08:37 PM - 03/15/16
^ That's normal.

For example, let's say your Destiny Config (the entire thing, Hip, ADS, etc. etc.), your base color is red. That's what you're going to see 99% of the time. The only time it will chg is when you activate a sub config such as ADS. So you activate ADS, it should briefly flash green to acknowledge activation, then it will go back to default, Red. Then when you let off your ADS button it should briefly flash Yellow, to acknowledge Hip activation, before defaulting back to Red.

Man you really should watch the video's Obs has posted up on XIM4 setup, it's worthy info. ;)

This whole Destiny setup is like jumping straight into XIM4 Hardcore mode. It's important to understand the basics first.

That being said, I'm always willing to help when I can. But you can speed up your learning curve significantly by watching the video's he's put up and then read through my Advanced Settings link in my signature.  ;)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Frasier0303 on 10:11 AM - 03/16/16
Well ... thanks again  ;) I guess I gonna watch the setup-videos you recommended, so I don´t have to ask these stupid questions  8)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: flst81 on 10:48 AM - 03/16/16
No questions are stupid. If people here can help, they will. It just really helps when people do a search or research first and if they still don't understand, ask away.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: TheAustinB on 03:26 PM - 03/21/16
Hey so I just got my XIM4 today and I really want the setup for Destiny to be as simple as possible. When I pasted your codes for each sub, the ballistics were all way off compared to what you've shown in the pictures. I feel like I read over everything but I'm sure I definitely missed something. I'd love to get setup and on the right track and nice guide btw!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: gizmetti on 06:09 PM - 03/21/16
Bro. Thank you so much. This config has helped my game IMMENSELY. I did some minor tweaks to my ADS setting to suit my tastes but this config was a fantastic base. Everything is so snappy and responsive. It's incredible. It definitely stepped my game up. Thanks! Kudos! Hopefully you can make a good one for the Division now  :) :)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: flst81 on 06:18 PM - 03/21/16
Hey so I just got my XIM4 today and I really want the setup for Destiny to be as simple as possible. When I pasted your codes for each sub, the ballistics were all way off compared to what you've shown in the pictures. I feel like I read over everything but I'm sure I definitely missed something. I'd love to get setup and on the right track and nice guide btw!

What firmware/manager are you using? He has his setup based on 20151120 build. Not sure, but it might work the current beta builds
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: zenoc1de on 09:26 PM - 03/24/16
Sorry to ask.. just got my XIM4 yesterday. Do I copy the code in the XIM4 Manager? If so, how?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 11:21 AM - 03/28/16
Sorry to ask.. just got my XIM4 yesterday. Do I copy the code in the XIM4 Manager? If so, how?

Follow the link "advanced settings" in my sig. It will explain.

Sorry guys I've been on the road for the last month, 5 more to go. I will be checking in from time to time but won't be around much. I appreciate others supporting this thread.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Lineater on 01:56 PM - 04/05/16
RML, what dpi & polling settings do you use for Destiny?  Sorry if it's been posted already. I'm new here and couldn't find a way to search the thread.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: thepr0 on 02:57 PM - 04/05/16
check his signature ^^
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Lineater on 03:04 PM - 04/05/16
Lol... so that's why it wasn't posted in the OP. It was already there =)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 09:55 AM - 04/14/16
^ I actually used 8000 dpi when creating my Destiny setup, so that should be your reference point.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Lineater on 07:38 PM - 04/14/16
Thanks for clarifying.  I've actually been running 8200 dpi per another poster's advice in a sniping setup thread. The aiming feels smoother & less jittery to me than it does at 4000 dpi.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Bonjah on 09:57 AM - 04/15/16
Thanks for clarifying.  I've actually been running 8200 dpi per another poster's advice in a sniping setup thread. The aiming feels smoother & less jittery to me than it does at 4000 dpi.
Are using RMLs sensitivity with 8200dpi?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Lineater on 02:10 PM - 04/18/16
yeah. Not exactly but pretty close. Also been going back and forth on whether or not I prefer a ballistics curve for ADS.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: atreides on 12:54 AM - 04/22/16
I haven't updated my xim4 since may 2015 and I just got started sniping again in destiny and I can not land any hits like I was able to. Maybe I suck now or its xim? idk
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: flst81 on 09:37 AM - 04/22/16
They ( Bungie) have changed things with snipers. Read the patch notes for all they did. It does take a bit of getting used to, drag and quick scope have become a tad harder to do.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: R3MiX on 06:20 AM - 04/24/16
I haven't updated my xim4 since may 2015 and I just got started sniping again in destiny and I can not land any hits like I was able to. Maybe I suck now or its xim? idk

It's funny you mentioned this. I'm on the same boat, sniping felt better for me before updating the XIM. Now it's more challenging in the latest RC. Is there a way to go back to previous firmwares?

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: q3sebo on 06:13 AM - 04/25/16
@R3MiX
Well man you can downgrade FW the same way you upgrade it. Just grab previous FW - flash and install it on your xim. I did the same.
@atreides
There were changes inside the game with snipers, but there were also changes in xim. Latest FWs have STv2 and older ones are STv1 - aka Smart Translator version 1. I like STv1 better for sniping, so i downgraded. Although with newest FWs overall movement is much better=crispier.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: R3MiX on 01:08 PM - 04/25/16
Alright thanks for the info. What firmware are you at? I don't remember which firmware I was at before I updated the xim4. Is there a link to all the previous firmwares @ Mist, @OBSIV ?

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Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: flst81 on 09:11 AM - 04/27/16
I heard in the  latest crucible radio podcast that aim assist values have changed regarding sniper scopes. This will have a slight effect on your sniping as well.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: q3sebo on 04:38 AM - 04/29/16
@R3MiX
I am now on 20141114. But i am a little bit tired of how sniping game looks now in destiny, so i will probably slowly switch to shotguning and for that i am gonna use newest RC FW 20160405 and 12k DPI.
As far as i know older FW were removed from forum, so you probably won't find any links related to the source. Only one available now are the ones in XIM Community »XIM 4 »Downloads section.

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RainMaker_02 on 01:31 AM - 05/10/16
Okay, so this is awesome for one...but I do have a question..

Do I need to assign an activation button to use each config? Each time I want to use a config I need to hit the activation button first? I am a little confused with this part
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Bonjah on 06:57 AM - 05/10/16
Okay, so this is awesome for one...but I do have a question..

Do I need to assign an activation button to use each config? Each time I want to use a config I need to hit the activation button first? I am a little confused with this part
You assign those profiles with that button u use for it. Ads on your mouse/ps nav is the same button that should be assign to the ads profile. The only profile that needs a own button is the sparrow profile. But Rml has done a "one" button macro for that as well.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RainMaker_02 on 02:03 PM - 05/10/16
Okay, I have to be doing something wrong with my turn assist...when I hit the turn assist button I do a complete 360 and cannot control it at all...why is that? What is going on: when I am running and need to turn a corner or try to shoot someone coming around that corner I cannot lock onto them at all, they kill me every time. When using the turn assist it spins me so fast I cannot stop at all. What can I do? Yeah when they are coming straight at me or standing still I have no issues lol
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: flst81 on 02:35 PM - 05/10/16
you shouldn't be using turn assist for regular movement. It was designed for slow turning vehicles essentially. In destiny the only thing that would really need it are the sparrows. You need to adjust your mouse sens or use curves and such to do handle your character movement.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 07:56 AM - 05/11/16
Okay, I have to be doing something wrong with my turn assist...when I hit the turn assist button I do a complete 360 and cannot control it at all...why is that? What is going on: when I am running and need to turn a corner or try to shoot someone coming around that corner I cannot lock onto them at all, they kill me every time. When using the turn assist it spins me so fast I cannot stop at all. What can I do? Yeah when they are coming straight at me or standing still I have no issues lol

I actually do use Turn Assist often while running, or, I used to anyways. I haven't played Destiny in a long time. It sounds like your problem may be using TA in toggle mode. You need to assign TA to a button that you can hold to engage it and release to disengage.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: R3MiX on 10:58 AM - 05/11/16
RML, any chance you can revisit your setup and configs? Possibly update them if needed? There has been changes in the game in terms of scopes and the way it acts, melee hit detection, armor with evade, etc.etc. Also STv2 seem to have change the aiming [ Maybe it's just me ] on your curve(s). Just thought I'd throw it out there.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Bonjah on 09:20 AM - 05/12/16
RML, any chance you can revisit your setup and configs? Possibly update them if needed? There has been changes in the game in terms of scopes and the way it acts, melee hit detection, armor with evade, etc.etc. Also STv2 seem to have change the aiming [ Maybe it's just me ] on your curve(s). Just though I'd throw it out there.
^^ This pls! Atleast confirm all is good. Even with STv2 and after the new patch.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 04:10 PM - 05/12/16
Tell you guys what, if this thread reaches 100,000 views I'll consider revisiting the game. I can't believe so many people still play Destiny.

I currently don't have the time to spend with it, maybe in a few weeks. It's not like I can just jump in and create a whole new setup. It takes a lot of gameplay/trial and error. I just don't know if the games worth it anymore. Are there that many people out there still playing this?

I'm sure there are others out there that have already created something better then my setup. It's just the matter of getting them to share their settings.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Pyro2577 on 10:23 PM - 05/13/16
Yeah I'm back playing after the April update. Yeah i noticed it is a little harder for me to aim, it's like I have to get used to the sensitivity all over again, if i drop it then it seems too slow. If you could update your settings would be good as I am sure a few of us don't understand the the ballistic curves as well as you do.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Winnnie on 02:52 AM - 05/16/16
My Boy R3MiX asked for an update.....You @#$% well give him one!
 ;D ;D

RML, Destiny is pumped atm, even little old me is back on the Guardian Grind.

However, if and when you do jump back into Destiny, please let me grind wid du.
I wanna snake hip all over you and maybe shoot a few scrubs.

The next big Destiny change will be in Sept, the April update is considered a good one, Sept is supposed to be on Par with Last Years Taken King.....its all to play for Guardian.

I LOVE YOU ALL!!!

Winnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnie
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: R3MiX on 04:35 PM - 05/16/16
My Boy R3MiX asked for an update.....You @#$% well give him one!
 ;D ;D


Winnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnie

LMAO.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 06:19 PM - 05/16/16
I will say this, I haven't even played "The Taken King" DLC yet.

So there's a chance ...  8)

What was the April update?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Truedarkseed on 06:35 PM - 05/16/16
The April update rocks.  I never stopped playing destiny

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Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Truedarkseed on 06:36 PM - 05/16/16
I play in ps4 aka truedarkseed

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Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Bonjah on 11:31 PM - 05/16/16
I will say this, I haven't even played "The Taken King" DLC yet.

So there's a chance ...  8)

What was the April update?
All is just better. Just a little thing as infuse 1:1 instead of having 100 of infuse gear to get your current gear up in light. Its more rewarding for doing stuff outside the raid.(you dont even need do the raid anymore) Your everyday things in destiny is just so much nicer now.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Winnnie on 02:24 AM - 05/17/16
Wow so you really have alot to enjoy again buddy.
Its a changed game, the hype and fun seems to be back, personally i think the colourless snow and constant dead bodies of the division have driven most back to the bright fun world of destiny!
Add me lads i wanna ☆XIM UP☆

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Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Bonjah on 05:08 AM - 05/17/16
PLUS!!

Big streamer like DrLupo is using or atleast had your settings as blueprint for his settings. So yea RML, ppl need u, I need u! xD That should be enough right? haha

Only 2000 hits left for a return btw. ;)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: ZFRESH on 08:22 AM - 05/17/16
Yes please!!! @[email protected]
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 03:19 PM - 05/17/16
Oh Snap, this isn't helping guys!

http://xim4.com/community/index.php?topic=46751.0

So many games right now, even BF4 is going through a revival ATM.

Ugh ...
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: R3MiX on 04:30 PM - 05/17/16
^^^
Let me rez snipe that thread. ........
Headshot!....BF4 revival down!

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Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Bonjah on 05:06 AM - 05/18/16
^^^
Let me rez snipe that thread. ........
Headshot!....BF4 revival down!

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Haha, even if i like bf4 I think Destiny deserve it more. ;)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: GhettoFishcake on 11:59 AM - 05/19/16
HI everyone - first time user and I imagine this question has a very simple solution, so apologies in advance.

I'm stuck at the first hurdle - where to actually paste the code in step 4:

4. Paste the code below IN ITS ENTIRETY! To ensure you copy the entire code click on the word "Select" above the code. This will highlight everything that must be copied

I understand the instructions how to copy, but its within XIM4 Manager I'm having issue. I can find the mentioned 3 dots '...' to expand the menu but there doesn't appear to be anywhere to paste the code.  :-\

I see options for Notify Settings Activation. Notify Turn Speed Exceeded and Push to Talk options.

Both firmware and Manager versions are at 4.00.20141114

I've tried this on both an Android device and PC.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: JerryHatrick on 12:27 PM - 05/19/16
In xim manager top right under  the translator name ie Destiny there a re three ... Click that and hit the rectangle with the arrow pointing down this will paste what you have on the clipboard and a green tick will appear ... Simples
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: GhettoFishcake on 01:02 PM - 05/19/16
Thanks  :)

I was on an older firmware; I really thought I checked that...

Anyway, the firmware XIM4 ships with doesn't appear to have the paste button you mention - just putting that here in case someone in future ever hits the same issue  ;)

I've updated without issue now!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 07:46 PM - 05/19/16
Welcome to the community GhettoFishcake

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Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: V3n0m15 on 05:41 AM - 05/21/16
Okay I only have about a month left of gaming so I might jump back on the destiny train as long as I have friends/ximmers to play with!! I'm sure I could help out with the curves and setups for people while I'm around as well
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Winnnie on 06:24 AM - 05/21/16
Oh hell YES!!!
Cant wait to hook up again brother!!

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Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 10:19 PM - 05/21/16
All right, so I dusted off Destiny, threw it in the XB1 and downloaded the Taken King. First off, the game has changed ALOT. I haven't played since the first DLC dropped (whenever that was). I'm loving all the changes, yet at the same time I'm feeling a bit lost. I'm going to have to do some research just to find out how to upgrade equipment and what's up with the currency, etc. Hmmm ...

I'm still using the Sniper from the Iron Banner and the Last Word. What those were the go to weapons when last I played, haha.

Anyways, I played for a couple of hrs. today. Mixed it up from bounties on Venus and some PvP. Utilizing the before mentioned weapons, I definitely noticed Aim Assist felt a lot stronger then what I remembered. I really struggled on both accounts trying to get head shots. I'm looking into some modified curves for ADS but it'll be awhile. I still like my HIP curve although I did eliminate the 500 boost and I use Steady Aim while in HIP.

I've also started another thread to discuss this with OBsIV. I would suggest you guys take a look at it and add your thoughts and findings. If you didn't know, the beta firmware utilizes STv2 which seems to be amplifying Aim Assist which is what I believe is causing the issue's a lot of you have been talking about in this thread. Which is why I decided to revisit the game in the first place.

I'm going to be running some test between STv1 and Stv2, with and without Steady Aim to try and figure this out. It will probably take some time though as I may just buy another XIM4 so I can easily bounce between the two. My early conclusion though is that YES, the game does feel different with STv2.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: TeslaDev on 10:47 PM - 05/21/16
Thanks for the wisdom RML. You're one classy dude. Looking forward to your findings. 8)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: knox66 on 10:51 PM - 05/21/16
Just wanted to say thanks for dusting off destiny and giving us some new insight!!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: GhettoFishcake on 12:36 AM - 05/22/16
Thanks for the welcome, your efforts here and help from everyone else.

It's all set up and working as expected - had my doubts before buying and was ready for a quick Amazon return but I'm super happy! Wish I had this when BF4 released...

As a side (no rush for anyone to answer) What's Stv (1 / 2) - I've seen that mentioned a few times. I'm assuming software updates?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: thepr0 on 03:14 AM - 05/22/16
RML dont use steady aim for destiny it is terrible..even boost on ADS makes it worst
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Bonjah on 04:20 AM - 05/22/16
All right, so I dusted off Destiny, threw it in the XB1 and downloaded the Taken King. First off, the game has changed ALOT. I haven't played since the first DLC dropped (whenever that was). I'm loving all the changes, yet at the same time I'm feeling a bit lost. I'm going to have to do some research just to find out how to upgrade equipment and what's up with the currency, etc. Hmmm ...

I'm still using the Sniper from the Iron Banner and the Last Word. What those were the go to weapons when last I played, haha.

Anyways, I played for a couple of hrs. today. Mixed it up from bounties on Venus and some PvP. Utilizing the before mentioned weapons, I definitely noticed Aim Assist felt a lot stronger then what I remembered. I really struggled on both accounts trying to get head shots. I'm looking into some modified curves for ADS but it'll be awhile. I still like my HIP curve although I did eliminate the 500 boost and I use Steady Aim while in HIP.

I've also started another thread to discuss this with OBsIV. I would suggest you guys take a look at it and add your thoughts and findings. If you didn't know, the beta firmware utilizes STv2 which seems to be amplifying Aim Assist which is what I believe is causing the issue's a lot of you have been talking about in this thread. Which is why I decided to revisit the game in the first place.

I'm going to be running some test between STv1 and Stv2, with and without Steady Aim to try and figure this out. It will probably take some time though as I may just buy another XIM4 so I can easily bounce between the two. My early conclusion though is that YES, the game does feel different with STv2.

Cheers!
WOHOO!! He is back!![emoji322][emoji122][emoji1]
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: R3MiX on 10:12 AM - 05/22/16
All right, so I dusted off Destiny, threw it in the XB1 and downloaded the Taken King. First off, the game has changed ALOT. I haven't played since the first DLC dropped (whenever that was). I'm loving all the changes, yet at the same time I'm feeling a bit lost. I'm going to have to do some research just to find out how to upgrade equipment and what's up with the currency, etc. Hmmm ...

I'm still using the Sniper from the Iron Banner and the Last Word. What those were the go to weapons when last I played, haha.

Anyways, I played for a couple of hrs. today. Mixed it up from bounties on Venus and some PvP. Utilizing the before mentioned weapons, I definitely noticed Aim Assist felt a lot stronger then what I remembered. I really struggled on both accounts trying to get head shots. I'm looking into some modified curves for ADS but it'll be awhile. I still like my HIP curve although I did eliminate the 500 boost and I use Steady Aim while in HIP.

I've also started another thread to discuss this with OBsIV. I would suggest you guys take a look at it and add your thoughts and findings. If you didn't know, the beta firmware utilizes STv2 which seems to be amplifying Aim Assist which is what I believe is causing the issue's a lot of you have been talking about in this thread. Which is why I decided to revisit the game in the first place.

I'm going to be running some test between STv1 and Stv2, with and without Steady Aim to try and figure this out. It will probably take some time though as I may just buy another XIM4 so I can easily bounce between the two. My early conclusion though is that YES, the game does feel different with STv2.

Cheers!

It's confirmed! I'm not going crazy at all!! STv2 does really feel different.  Good to know your running tests. I can be at peace now.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 06:46 PM - 05/22/16
100,000 and counting!

That deserves a little Dinkle ...

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Truly proud of this thread and how much it's helped the community. Let's not stop here, keep your setups coming guys. That's what community is about.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: Bonjah on 12:17 AM - 05/23/16
100,000 and counting!

That deserves a little Dinkle ...

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Truly proud of this thread and how much it's helped the community. Let's not stop here, keep your setups coming guys. That's what community is about.

Cheers!
And we are so thankful for all you knowledge u provide to us. Me myself are very noob to make my own settings. But I can test and give feedback how I think it feels. Keep up the good work! And thats to all of you, that share your own settings to the community! THANK YOU!!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 05:02 PM - 05/24/16
Hey guys, unfortunately my time has run out (for gaming). I'll be back at it probably around the beginning of July.

I'll leave you with this RAW curve for ADS and a suggestion on managing Aim Assist. I also believe OBsIV is going to take a second look at Steady Aim and see if anything can be done to insure it's behaving as STv1 would.

My Suggestion ...

- Try to push yourself to play at the highest sensitivity that you can control and with as high of DPI as you can. My personal preference for DPI and this game is still 8000, beyond that and it gets too Jittery for me. My testing has proven to me that High sens and high DPI do help combat AA. Unfortunately it can change the overall feel of the game and may push you a little out of your comfort zone. But remember the ability to control fast turns isn't only going to help combat AA it is also what really separates us from the controller users and the faster your movement is the greater the advantage you will have against them.

Here's the curve, sry I didn't have more time to spend with this as I was running other test. But this felt better to me then my prior curve. I also tried thepRo's curve and although it wasn't aggressive enough for me, I would suggest that others give it a go. You never know until you try.

Add as much Sens to this as you can control and see how it works for you.

ADS:
Code: [Select]
>>> XIM4 [Mouse Ballistics] START PASTE >>>
X4MB:AAAAGgA0AC4AMAAwAC4AMgAwADEANgAwADQAMAA1ABs2UWyBjJOaoaeutLvByMjIyMjI:X4MB
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

One last note, the only other thing I changed was with HIP. I kept the curve but eliminated the boost and turned Steady Aim off. Everything else felt fine to me.

Cheers!



Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: R3MiX on 05:20 PM - 05/24/16
Hey guys, unfortunately my time has run out (for gaming). I'll be back at it probably around the beginning of July.

I'll leave you with this RAW curve for ADS and a suggestion on managing Aim Assist. I also believe OBsIV is going to take a second look at Steady Aim and see if anything can be done to insure it's behaving as STv1 would.

My Suggestion ...

- Try to push yourself to play at the highest sensitivity that you can control and with as high of DPI as you can. My personal preference for DPI and this game is still 8000, beyond that and it gets too Jittery for me. My testing has proven to me that High sens and high DPI do help combat AA. Unfortunately it can change the overall feel of the game and may push you a little out of your comfort zone. But remember the ability to control fast turns isn't only going to help combat AA it is also what really separates us from the controller users and the faster your movement is the greater the advantage you will have against them.

Here's the curve, sry I didn't have more time to spend with this as I was running other test. But this felt better to me then my prior curve. I also tried thepRo's curve and although it wasn't aggressive enough for me, I would suggest that others give it a go. You never know until you try.

Add as much Sens to this as you can control and see how it works for you.

ADS:
Code: [Select]
>>> XIM4 [Mouse Ballistics] START PASTE >>>
X4MB:AAAAGgA0AC4AMAAwAC4AMgAwADEANgAwADQAMAA1ABs2UWyBjJOaoaeutLvByMjIyMjI:X4MB
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

One last note, the only other thing I changed was with HIP. I kept the curve but eliminated the boost and turned Steady Aim off. Everything else felt fine to me.

Cheers!

Thanks again for all your hard work RML. Be safe and Happy trip!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: V3n0m15 on 05:29 PM - 05/24/16
I'm going to mess around with this as well while your gone and see what comes of it! Safe travels brother!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: RML on 05:30 AM - 05/25/16
If I could add anything it would be to try and create a close encounter curve and a long range curve for sniping. Aggressive vs. smooth. The G502 is good for this as it already has a sniper button, maybe just use it for lower DPI with my curve for long range. Lower DPI also seems to add more Aim Assist which could be beneficial at mid-long range.

Good luck gentleman!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: V3n0m15 on 05:41 AM - 05/25/16
That's not a bad idea or you could use a key that you activate a sniper profile with your pinky and lower the XIM Sens for better long range micro movements. Also possibly add some accel to the end of the curve for when you are zoomed in and you find it necessary to stay zoomed in but you want to snap to another target. The possibilities are endless. Once I get home from this vaca I'll jump on and start getting the creative juices flowing. I'll use your original profile setup as my starting point if you don't mind RML.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: RML on 05:46 AM - 05/25/16
Of course not, that's what this whole thread was about to begin with. A blue print of sorts for others to learn and share from.

Knock yourself out bro!

To ALL, there are other things playing into all of this as well. Please follow this thread and share any findings you may have to help team XIM troubleshoot STv2, Aim Assist and DPI concerns.
http://xim4.com/community/index.php?topic=46808.0


Thank you!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Mark8010 on 05:49 AM - 05/25/16
That's not a bad idea or you could use a key that you activate a sniper profile with your pinky and lower the XIM Sens for better long range micro movements. Also possibly add some accel to the end of the curve for when you are zoomed in and you find it necessary to stay zoomed in but you want to snap to another target. The possibilities are endless. Once I get home from this vaca I'll jump on and start getting the creative juices flowing. I'll use your original profile setup as my starting point if you don't mind RML.

I've done this before just by using the 'change weapon' button as the activation (with toggle) for a seperate sniper only curve and use another mouse button as a deactivation key
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: V3n0m15 on 05:53 AM - 05/25/16
That's not a bad idea or you could use a key that you activate a sniper profile with your pinky and lower the XIM Sens for better long range micro movements. Also possibly add some accel to the end of the curve for when you are zoomed in and you find it necessary to stay zoomed in but you want to snap to another target. The possibilities are endless. Once I get home from this vaca I'll jump on and start getting the creative juices flowing. I'll use your original profile setup as my starting point if you don't mind RML.

I've done this before just by using the 'change weapon' button as the activation (with toggle) for a seperate sniper only curve and use another mouse button as a deactivation key
Yea making multiple deactivation keys works best. Only thing I'm not a huge fan of for toggle is that things happen in the heat of the moment so if its stuck on the wrong profile that can be very irritating!! Things like toggle for Vehicles is amazing I just find that for me personally I don't like to toggle for weapons.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: FortyOne on 09:04 AM - 05/25/16
Giving the new curve a try.  Have to play around with my sensitivity since it's too sensitive ATM

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: ZFRESH on 09:38 AM - 05/25/16
are these advance settings up to date? stupid question i know. but im just making sure
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: RML on 10:47 AM - 05/27/16
Yes, latest firmware/manager 20160405.

Just to clarify, with my latest ADS curve. I primarily created this for use with close to (close) mid range encounters (with snipers, pistols and shotguns) and I was doing alot of sweep shots.

For mid (long) to long range encounters I would suggest using a snipe button to decrease DPI and increase AA.

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: knox66 on 04:28 PM - 05/27/16
For long range engagements u lower the DPI to take away some of the jitter/twitchness? Polling u still keep that at 1k or 500 (for long range)?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: RML on 04:38 PM - 05/27/16
^ Yes, that is one way of slowing your aim and making it more precise.

I've always preferred 500, especially for this type of scenario.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: thepr0 on 05:01 PM - 05/27/16
just remember guys when you do test your settings in patrol make sure if your playing crucible go into like rumble or classic 6v6 and adjust your settings while in the game because the aim assist varies.  pvp is either going to have sronger aim assist or less but most likely stronger since players are rapidly and constantly moving so youll want to set your settings accordingly that way your not having a hard time tracking enemies. in pv3 most of the time enemies are standing still slight moving and the hitbox is a little different since is based on your connection... anyways just a little tip when you are experimenting or trying to adjust your settings with RMLs setup
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: RML on 07:17 PM - 05/28/16
If anyone is brave enough, please try the old firmware. I'll redo the curves for anyone that wants to give it a go. I would just really like to get more data on what's happening here with STv1 and STv2, especially when it comes to Destiny. STv1 seems to really handle Aim Assist better for me.

If anyone's interested, let me know. I'm redoing the curves now for 1114 firmware/manager.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: RML on 07:37 PM - 05/28/16
Ha ... turns out I posted the old curves in the Ballistic curve library, YES!!

Here they are, for 20141114 firmware/manager

HIP - 25 sens. 8000 dpi
Code: [Select]
>>> XIM4 START Paste >>>
X4MB:000D1A2734414E5C6B7A8C9EB1C8C8C8C8C8C8C8C8
<<< XIM4 END   Paste <<<

ADS - 10 sens 8000 dpi
Code: [Select]
>>> XIM4 START Paste >>>
X4MB:000F1F2F3F4E5B656F79838D97A1ABB5BFC8C8C8C8
<<< XIM4 END   Paste <<<

Sprint and Sparrow - 45 sens. 500 Boost, 8000 dpi
Code: [Select]
>>> XIM4 START Paste >>>
X4MB:000F1E2E3D4D5C6B7B8A99A9B8C8C8C8C8C8C8C8C8
<<< XIM4 END   Paste <<<

Now just have to match the buttons to my G502 and LGS settings. Ugh...
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: R3MiX on 08:23 PM - 05/28/16
I went back to that version but @#$%, having to convert the code to the older curve and doing the buttons all over was a pain.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: RML on 08:30 PM - 05/28/16
I went back to that version but @#$%, having to convert the code to the older curve and doing the buttons all over was a pain.

Totally agree, but the game definitely feels like how I remember now and is much more enjoyable.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Winnnie on 03:58 AM - 05/29/16
So more AA or less?

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Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: RML on 08:55 AM - 05/29/16
^ Less
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Avarrus1 on 04:12 PM - 05/29/16
First post,  but been using xim on destiny for a year or longer now.    Never thought I'd feel a difference by downgrading firmware to 20141114.   

Feels alot more crisp and clean.   My sniper shots that felt like they should of hit do now.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: RML on 06:15 PM - 05/29/16
First post,  but been using xim on destiny for a year or longer now.    Never thought I'd feel a difference by downgrading firmware to 20141114.   

Feels alot more crisp and clean.   My sniper shots that felt like they should of hit do now.

Thanks for the feedback and welcome to the forum.  :)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: knox66 on 07:38 PM - 05/29/16
I'm new to the keyboard and Mouse world so my appolgies if this is a bad question. Everything I hear is aim assist is bad for mouse and KB play.if that is correct I should use weapons with low aim assist to help counter its affect. By doing this I would have to have a less aggressive curse to battle aim assist.

Or is aim assist overall a good thing and helps me while I try to work against it in some areas?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: RML on 07:42 AM - 05/30/16
I'm new to the keyboard and Mouse world so my appolgies if this is a bad question. Everything I hear is aim assist is bad for mouse and KB play.if that is correct I should use weapons with low aim assist to help counter its affect. By doing this I would have to have a less aggressive curse to battle aim assist.

Or is aim assist overall a good thing and helps me while I try to work against it in some areas?

Everyone has their preferences. Typically people that like my setups prefer a little less Aim Assist. We want some, because it does keep you from over aiming. But too much can often create a bubble feel around the targets hit box. I always try to balance it out.

I would suggest you make two setups for Destiny. One with Vanilla ST's (no curves) and another with my curves. See for yourself which works best for you.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: knox66 on 07:52 AM - 05/30/16
Thanks for the advice! I ran a few trials cards last night and my crit% with the sniper was a little less with the curve with the Tao. I will try it again with a vanilla st and see if that feels different.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Winnnie on 08:46 AM - 05/31/16
Is there a way to back up my xim 2016 setups?
Im tempted to roll back to 2014 but id lose my bf4 cod and halo and whatever else i have!
Scary!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: RML on 09:05 AM - 05/31/16
Is there a way to back up my xim 2016 setups?
Im tempted to roll back to 2014 but id lose my bf4 cod and halo and whatever else i have!
Scary!

Yes, run the firmware for the build the you're currently on and then chose to backup your configs. You can then save them before down grading. You will have to do a factory reset though when down grading. So you'll have to rebuild all your configs on the old firmware. That's why I added all the codes though, to try and help make that process less painful.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Winnnie on 11:46 AM - 05/31/16
Thanks man!
Love y'all!

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Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Pandemic on 03:13 PM - 05/31/16
Do you think we could get the STv2 retrained for Destiny? Playing with it just feels off compared to STv1. I can't go back because I swapped my Android phone for an iPhone.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: RML on 06:48 PM - 05/31/16
Do you think we could get the STv2 retrained for Destiny? Playing with it just feels off compared to STv1. I can't go back because I swapped my Android phone for an iPhone.

I think the best we can hope is for OBsIV to fix Steady Aim and make it behave like STv1. That's his focus now, so we shall see soon I hope.

We need to make sure we voice our opinions though and help him get it right. Because STv1 isn't making a comeback, it's on it's way to la la land. Steady Aim is our only hope beyond XIM4 and now for IOS support and many other nice features.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: TeslaDev on 11:20 AM - 06/01/16
I really want to try STv1 to put in my 2cents, but I have like 4-5 active games I play using the XIM and am too lazy to re-set all my configurations....but we'll see...maybe I'll just revert, try some destiny, and decide from there. 

It is nice I can back-up my current set-up before doing it.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: RML on 11:25 AM - 06/01/16
I really want to try STv1 to put in my 2cents, but I have like 4-5 active games I play using the XIM and am too lazy to re-set all my configurations....but we'll see...maybe I'll just revert, try some destiny, and decide from there. 

It is nice I can back-up my current set-up before doing it.

Yeah, going back to STv2 is easy. Going to Stv1, not so easy.  :(
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: MrChisel on 01:41 PM - 06/01/16
Hey guys, unfortunately my time has run out (for gaming). I'll be back at it probably around the beginning of July.

I'll leave you with this RAW curve for ADS and a suggestion on managing Aim Assist. I also believe OBsIV is going to take a second look at Steady Aim and see if anything can be done to insure it's behaving as STv1 would.

My Suggestion ...

- Try to push yourself to play at the highest sensitivity that you can control and with as high of DPI as you can. My personal preference for DPI and this game is still 8000, beyond that and it gets too Jittery for me. My testing has proven to me that High sens and high DPI do help combat AA. Unfortunately it can change the overall feel of the game and may push you a little out of your comfort zone. But remember the ability to control fast turns isn't only going to help combat AA it is also what really separates us from the controller users and the faster your movement is the greater the advantage you will have against them.

Here's the curve, sry I didn't have more time to spend with this as I was running other test. But this felt better to me then my prior curve. I also tried thepRo's curve and although it wasn't aggressive enough for me, I would suggest that others give it a go. You never know until you try.

Add as much Sens to this as you can control and see how it works for you.

ADS:
Code: [Select]
>>> XIM4 [Mouse Ballistics] START PASTE >>>
X4MB:AAAAGgA0AC4AMAAwAC4AMgAwADEANgAwADQAMAA1ABs2UWyBjJOaoaeutLvByMjIyMjI:X4MB
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

One last note, the only other thing I changed was with HIP. I kept the curve but eliminated the boost and turned Steady Aim off. Everything else felt fine to me.

Cheers!
[/quote




Anyone in this thread who uses the new ADS curve and give some input? Also, a photo or screenshot of it would be awesome, to get a better idea of what has changed!

Thanks
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: TeslaDev on 06:43 PM - 06/01/16
I really want to try STv1 to put in my 2cents, but I have like 4-5 active games I play using the XIM and am too lazy to re-set all my configurations....but we'll see...maybe I'll just revert, try some destiny, and decide from there. 

It is nice I can back-up my current set-up before doing it.

Yeah, going back to STv2 is easy. Going to Stv1, not so easy.  :(

Yeah, converted over my Destiny setups and ran a little crucible.  I definitely thought it felt a lot better, more crisp when aiming over someone...could feel my movements of my mouse translating better into moving around in the hitbox.  I could actually pull my aim upward while unloading my DoP...made it a lot easier to start on chest and lift up to the head in a controllable manner.  My snipes felt good too, but that'd take a lot more time to prove out.

But..I switched back to Stv2, for ease of use and for my other games.  Wishing I had tried out The Division real quick though...because the AA drag in that game is utterly ridiculous...especially when combined with the input lag...ugh.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 01/08/16)
Post by: RML on 07:02 PM - 06/01/16
Hey guys, unfortunately my time has run out (for gaming). I'll be back at it probably around the beginning of July.

I'll leave you with this RAW curve for ADS and a suggestion on managing Aim Assist. I also believe OBsIV is going to take a second look at Steady Aim and see if anything can be done to insure it's behaving as STv1 would.

My Suggestion ...

- Try to push yourself to play at the highest sensitivity that you can control and with as high of DPI as you can. My personal preference for DPI and this game is still 8000, beyond that and it gets too Jittery for me. My testing has proven to me that High sens and high DPI do help combat AA. Unfortunately it can change the overall feel of the game and may push you a little out of your comfort zone. But remember the ability to control fast turns isn't only going to help combat AA it is also what really separates us from the controller users and the faster your movement is the greater the advantage you will have against them.

Here's the curve, sry I didn't have more time to spend with this as I was running other test. But this felt better to me then my prior curve. I also tried thepRo's curve and although it wasn't aggressive enough for me, I would suggest that others give it a go. You never know until you try.

Add as much Sens to this as you can control and see how it works for you.

ADS:
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X4MB:AAAAGgA0AC4AMAAwAC4AMgAwADEANgAwADQAMAA1ABs2UWyBjJOaoaeutLvByMjIyMjI:X4MB
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

One last note, the only other thing I changed was with HIP. I kept the curve but eliminated the boost and turned Steady Aim off. Everything else felt fine to me.

Cheers!
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Anyone in this thread who uses the new ADS curve and give some input? Also, a photo or screenshot of it would be awesome, to get a better idea of what has changed!

Thanks

Unfortunately that curve feels no where near as good as STv1 does with my old curve.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Djc on 12:15 AM - 06/02/16
Hi can you please let me know the name of that Sony stick you are using I can't seem to find it anywhere
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: R3MiX on 07:07 AM - 06/02/16
Hi can you please let me know the name of that Sony stick you are using I can't seem to find it anywhere


Sony Nav. Can be found at Walmart (Clearance) and Gamestop (used).
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Dmon89 on 07:57 AM - 06/03/16
Hey RML,

First of all this setup freakin rocks! I just have one question regarding the hip and ads mouse speed. For my plays type it's a bit slow and I find myself lifting the mouse a lot to play.
Would you recommend I raise the mouse sensitivity? Or should raise the dpi and report rate, which I currently have setup at 8000/500 for my Logitech g502 proteus spectrum.

Thanks again!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: R3MiX on 09:46 AM - 06/03/16
What is your HIP and ADS sens? Im at 6000dpi , 500 polling. My sens is 15 hip and 10 ads. That's plenty speed for me. Did you max your in game sens?

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Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Dmon89 on 08:03 AM - 06/04/16
What is your HIP and ADS sens? Im at 6000dpi , 500 polling. My sens is 15 hip and 10 ads. That's plenty speed for me. Did you max your in game sens?

Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk

My HIP is at 70 and my ADS is at 40 with DPI at 8000 and Report Rate at 500. This feels pretty slow for me still though. I also have the settings set to 10 (max) in game with Auto Aim Assist.

My question is, to make my Hip and ADS move faster with out the jitteriness what settings should I change? sensitivity of mouse on IOS XIM4 Manager app? Or should I raise my DPI and or Report Rate for mouse onboard memory?

I appreciate your response by the way. Hope you or anyone might be able to help me out. Would like to try and go FLAWLESS in Trials for my first time. http://xim3.com/community/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: R3MiX on 09:17 AM - 06/04/16
What is your HIP and ADS sens? Im at 6000dpi , 500 polling. My sens is 15 hip and 10 ads. That's plenty speed for me. Did you max your in game sens?

Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk

My HIP is at 70 and my ADS is at 40 with DPI at 8000 and Report Rate at 500. This feels pretty slow for me still though. I also have the settings set to 10 (max) in game with Auto Aim Assist.

My question is, to make my Hip and ADS move faster with out the jitteriness what settings should I change? sensitivity of mouse on IOS XIM4 Manager app? Or should I raise my DPI and or Report Rate for mouse onboard memory?

I appreciate your response by the way. Hope you or anyone might be able to help me out. Would like to try and go FLAWLESS in Trials for my first time. http://xim3.com/community/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif
If your on ps4, I can definitely try to get you there.

oXo_R3MiX_oXo

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Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Eryxis on 10:12 AM - 06/04/16
Dmon, you're probably going to have to get used to a slower turn speed.  Your xim sensitivity combined with your DPI are insanely high.  You're going to feel great when you snap right to somebodies head 1 out of 10 times, then you will be swinging all over the screen the rest of the time and not be able to tell why. 
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: knox66 on 10:27 AM - 06/04/16
What is your HIP and ADS sens? Im at 6000dpi , 500 polling. My sens is 15 hip and 10 ads. That's plenty speed for me. Did you max your in game sens?

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Remix what curves do you use? RML old one? i know the chatter going re purposing boost is going to change some things but i am still changing my setup daily trying to find a good place to land.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: R3MiX on 10:29 AM - 06/04/16
RML's OG


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Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: R3MiX on 02:25 PM - 06/04/16
I'm glad I asked RML if he can revisit his curves. Now we have a beta firmware.  Things are looking good and it's only gonna get better! Thanks RML! Obs!

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Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: omnilink643 on 03:39 PM - 06/04/16
I just bought a G502 and cannot map G7 or G8. How do I map them? Is it something special or are the buttons broke?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: RML on 04:18 PM - 06/04/16
I just bought a G502 and cannot map G7 or G8. How do I map them? Is it something special or are the buttons broke?

I believe you have to have the latest beta firmware/manager for those to work, found here!

http://xim4.com/community/index.php?board=77.0
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: omnilink643 on 05:19 PM - 06/04/16
I downloaded the latest firmware and now my Iphone Xim 4 Manager won't work. It says the manager is out of date. I deleted the app and reinstalled it. No go. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: RML on 05:26 PM - 06/04/16
I downloaded the latest firmware and now my Iphone Xim 4 Manager won't work. It says the manager is out of date. I deleted the app and reinstalled it. No go. Any ideas?

Sry man I don't have an IPhone. you should post your issue in the support section so a mod will help.  :)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Dmon89 on 05:58 PM - 06/04/16
What is your HIP and ADS sens? Im at 6000dpi , 500 polling. My sens is 15 hip and 10 ads. That's plenty speed for me. Did you max your in game sens?

Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk

My HIP is at 70 and my ADS is at 40 with DPI at 8000 and Report Rate at 500. This feels pretty slow for me still though. I also have the settings set to 10 (max) in game with Auto Aim Assist.

My question is, to make my Hip and ADS move faster with out the jitteriness what settings should I change? sensitivity of mouse on IOS XIM4 Manager app? Or should I raise my DPI and or Report Rate for mouse onboard memory?

I appreciate your response by the way. Hope you or anyone might be able to help me out. Would like to try and go FLAWLESS in Trials for my first time. http://xim3.com/community/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif
If your on ps4, I can definitely try to get you there.

oXo_R3MiX_oXo

Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk

I'm actually on xbox one. I also can't configure the 2 extra buttons on my g502 spectrum that are to the left on top of the mouse by the left click. I have the TestFlight firmware and the firmware that ends in 20. (iOS)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Lineater on 10:42 PM - 06/04/16
Quote
I'm actually on xbox one. I also can't configure the 2 extra buttons on my g502 spectrum that are to the left on top of the mouse by the left click. I have the TestFlight firmware and the firmware that ends in 20. (iOS)

Have you tried editing the button functions with the Logitech Software? For those buttons I went into the profile editor, changed the button from default to a Multikey, and assigned those buttons to a random key. So for example I assigned one of the buttons to "B" in the Logitech profile editor, and then when I'm creating a XIM profile, it recognizes the mouse button as B.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Dmon89 on 09:59 AM - 06/05/16
I'll have to try that when I get home.

I have another question. With RML's current configure, what sniper scopes only compliment it and which scopes work against it?

Sorry for the million questions. Recently just purchased this amazing product and want to configure it just perfect. I'm having tons of fun playing now with M&ok. Hands no longer cramp on controller.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: knox66 on 10:10 AM - 06/05/16
I'll have to try that when I get home.

I have another question. With RML's current configure, what sniper scopes only compliment it and which scopes work against it?

Sorry for the million questions. Recently just purchased this amazing product and want to configure it just perfect. I'm having tons of fun playing now with M&ok. Hands no longer cramp on controller.

Im new as well but i have been working on this over the last few weeks. The conclusion i have found so far is if you want to feel aim assistance or not. If you want to feel/work with aim assistance use the high aim assistance rifles and scopes high zoom. IF you dont want to feel it then run the low aim assassinate rifles and scopes low zoom.

Really though when it comes to scopes it comes down to if you like the high zoom ones or the low zoom ones. I prefer low zoom. ambush has a -25 aim assistance but the lowest zoom while the SL10 has no -aim assistance and slightly more zoom. long range scopes add more aim assistance but to me are unusable in trails or fast paced pvp. Sl10 is what i run right now on all of mine but im in the i want high aim assistance camp right now.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Eryxis on 03:11 PM - 06/07/16
I'm going to give RML's newest curves and configuration with the beta firmware two thumbs up.

Here's my highlights from Trials this weekend.  I hit a lot more crazy shots than I normally would have.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skCySKG5eG0
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Dmon89 on 07:02 PM - 06/07/16
Quote
I'm actually on xbox one. I also can't configure the 2 extra buttons on my g502 spectrum that are to the left on top of the mouse by the left click. I have the TestFlight firmware and the firmware that ends in 20. (iOS)

Have you tried editing the button functions with the Logitech Software? For those buttons I went into the profile editor, changed the button from default to a Multikey, and assigned those buttons to a random key. So for example I assigned one of the buttons to "B" in the Logitech profile editor, and then when I'm creating a XIM profile, it recognizes the mouse button as B.

Worked! Thank you.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Lineater on 09:06 PM - 06/07/16
I'm going to give RML's newest curves and configuration with the beta firmware two thumbs up.

Here's my highlights from Trials this weekend.  I hit a lot more crazy shots than I normally would have.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skCySKG5eG0

Just to clarify, are you using the new curves posted in this thread, or the new curves posted in the other thread discussing the new firmware/steady aim/boost?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Eryxis on 02:16 PM - 06/08/16
http://xim4.com/community/index.php?topic=46808.msg563525#msg563525

These are the settings I used.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: flst81 on 10:25 AM - 06/09/16
leaked trailer shows gjallarhorn is back in a black chrome color as a preorder bonus.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Lineater on 12:04 PM - 06/09/16
http://xim4.com/community/index.php?topic=46808.msg563525#msg563525

These are the settings I used.

I played some matches with this same setup, except I bumped ADS boost up to 85. I only played a few matches but it felt pretty great. It seemed to combine the snappiness of a ballistics curve with the stickiness of Destiny's built-in aim assist. Kinda felt like the best of both worlds. I got 24 kills in a clash match with a sniper which I rarely ever do. Hell it may be the best I've ever done with a sniper. (Usually only slay like that with a shotgun)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: JC on 03:47 PM - 06/10/16
Can someone explain the G502 command editor to me? Where are those commands coming from? num 1, num 2, etc...

Alright, so i figured out how to change the mouse button into a key stroke, so my new question is, is there a way to manually set the delay for the multi keys?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: antithesis on 08:02 PM - 06/10/16
leaked trailer shows gjallarhorn is back in a black chrome color as a preorder bonus.

Nice.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Lineater on 10:07 PM - 06/10/16
Can someone explain the G502 command editor to me? Where are those commands coming from? num 1, num 2, etc...

Alright, so i figured out how to change the mouse button into a key stroke, so my new question is, is there a way to manually set the delay for the multi keys?

Yes, record the keystrokes, stop recording, then right click/ insert delays wherever you want. 100 = 1/10th of a second.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: fxdimast on 03:13 AM - 06/14/16
Sorry if I miss something, but how do you put the code?
I already clicked the three dots to open the drop down. It showed something but not something I can paste code into..
It's a checkbox "Notify Settings Activation" and "Notify Turn Speed Exceeded"
How do I put the codes?
Thankyou
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: RML on 08:49 AM - 06/14/16
Sorry if I miss something, but how do you put the code?
I already clicked the three dots to open the drop down. It showed something but not something I can paste code into..
It's a checkbox "Notify Settings Activation" and "Notify Turn Speed Exceeded"
How do I put the codes?
Thankyou

If you haven't upgraded your firmware since you got your XIM4 then you'll need to do so. The latest firmware/manager is in the download section of the forum.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: R3MiX on 05:57 PM - 06/14/16
FYI guys Bungie just dropped an update on weapons and class changes. If you are feeling something different about the game, its probably the game and not the curves or configs in this thread. Just thought I throw that out here.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: antithesis on 01:25 AM - 06/15/16
Also, they botched the patch. Lots of people are reporting invisible players in the Crucible, as well as taking or giving no damage, floating grenade particlesthat cause damage if you walk through them...all sorts of fun. More here - https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/206701911

I watched Dr Lupo today and could see the problem, though I didn't experience it myself. Apparently it's on both PS4 and XB1. Expect another patch to fix the patch...
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Blitzkrieg365 on 12:13 AM - 06/16/16
I'm going to give RML's newest curves and configuration with the beta firmware two thumbs up.

Here's my highlights from Trials this weekend.  I hit a lot more crazy shots than I normally would have.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skCySKG5eG0

Nice gameplay, I'm gonna give the same setup a try but I find the hip and ads sensitivities a bit too slow. Did you change yours at all?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Eryxis on 02:41 PM - 06/16/16
I definitely bumped up the hip/ads sensitivity, and had it feeling perfect for the clip I posted.  As I was getting ready to take screenshots as a backup my xim locked up and now I don't have the exact settings I used, so I'm busy trying to dial in the sweet spot again.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: bmac009 on 07:36 PM - 06/29/16
Just looking through this Setup and trying to configure mine.
Are we selecting the "Select code" for each ADS, HIP .... for each stage or is that for both further at the bottom of the page. Sorry I know its a noob question.
Or is it possible to have someone link up there backup config for PS4?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: RiskyShot on 07:42 PM - 06/29/16
Okay new XIM4 user, I'm deciding on the cosair m65 (old one) max 8200 DPI And the g502... Which would be smoother for destiny? Will 8200 DPI be enough? Cuz I think 11 buttons on the mouse are pretty excessive... But who knows I could just get used to it, but I will be using a keyboard not a joy stick... I'm worried about the sprint/ and slow turning cap speed for destiny.. Also the super use as well since I play night stalker exclusively. ANYTIPS PLEASEEEEE. I've watch numerous videos and ppl like "dr lupo" who is a streamer with xim4.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: mikael on 08:13 PM - 06/29/16
Okay new XIM4 user, I'm deciding on the cosair m65 (old one) max 8200 DPI And the g502... Which would be smoother for destiny? Will 8200 DPI be enough? Cuz I think 11 buttons on the mouse are pretty excessive... But who knows I could just get used to it, but I will be using a keyboard not a joy stick... I'm worried about the sprint/ and slow turning cap speed for destiny.. Also the super use as well since I play night stalker exclusively. ANYTIPS PLEASEEEEE. I've watch numerous videos and ppl like "dr lupo" who is a streamer with xim4.

Just get both of them. Can't go wrong that way
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: bmac009 on 08:18 PM - 06/29/16
Anyone willing to keep their backup config file?

Looking for this RML setup with NAV and G502 on PS4.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Jeyd02 on 10:48 AM - 06/30/16
What does steady aim do?

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Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: RML on 09:05 AM - 07/02/16
Man I love my XIM4. I've just recently got back into Destiny (thanks to some of you) and even though I've been away for about 6 months I'm still pulling off MVP's in most of my IB matches. I'm barely at 300 light and I have crap weapons. I mean I'm using an auto rifle in the IB for god sakes.

Anyways, quick question for you guys. Since all of my old weapons are outdated, what should I be looking to upgrade or acquire for PvP.

I like to snipe and use Hand Cannons mostly. I can get The Last Word (upgraded), when I get enough marks but is it still a good weapon? I've heard there's been alot of buffs/Nerfs while I've been away.

A few weapons I've heard thrown around Red Death, 1000 Yard Stare? What's the best Hand Cannon now and how do I get it?

The only decent weapon I have right now is Patience and Time. Is 1000 yard stare better or is it just better in the sense that I can use an Exotic for primary instead?

Appreciate the help.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Mark8010 on 09:18 AM - 07/02/16
Man I love my XIM4. I've just recently got back into Destiny (thanks to some of you) and even though I've been away for about 6 months I'm still pulling off MVP's in most of my IB matches. I'm barely at 300 light and I have crap weapons. I mean I'm using an auto rifle in the IB for god sakes.

Anyways, quick question for you guys. Since all of my old weapons are outdated, what should I be looking to upgrade or acquire for PvP.

I like to snipe and use Hand Cannons mostly. I can get The Last Word (upgraded), when I get enough marks but is it still a good weapon? I've heard there's been alot of buffs/Nerfs while I've been away.

A few weapons I've heard thrown around Red Death, 1000 Yard Stare? What's the best Hand Cannon now and how do I get it?

The only decent weapon I have right now is Patience and Time. Is 1000 yard stare better or is it just better in the sense that I can use an Exotic for primary instead?

Appreciate the help.

Current Meta weapons (i.e. at the most competitive level).

Hand Cannons
Last Word (they nerfed the hipfire headshot damage but ADS is fine)
Thorn (obviously!)
Imago Loop (undying mind strkie) / Eyasluna (random crucuble drop)  / Fennala's Peril (Iron Banner) style HC's are the competitive legendary ones - look for a range perk
Hawkmoon

Autos
Doctrine archetype still the most competitive

Pulse
Hawsaw
Grasp of Malok
Surox PDX 45

Sniper
LDR (random drop from vanguard package)
1000 Yard
Longbow (random drop from crucible package)

The high impact snipers are still the best snipers in the game, patience and time isn't used at a competitive level, in fact I've personally not seen it used at all since it was bought back, bit of a waste of an exotic slot IMO.

Red Death isn't competitive either - slow fire rate pulses in general aren't as the time to kill is too high relative to the ones listed above.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Bonjah on 09:41 AM - 07/02/16
Man I love my XIM4. I've just recently got back into Destiny (thanks to some of you) and even though I've been away for about 6 months I'm still pulling off MVP's in most of my IB matches. I'm barely at 300 light and I have crap weapons. I mean I'm using an auto rifle in the IB for god sakes.

Anyways, quick question for you guys. Since all of my old weapons are outdated, what should I be looking to upgrade or acquire for PvP.

I like to snipe and use Hand Cannons mostly. I can get The Last Word (upgraded), when I get enough marks but is it still a good weapon? I've heard there's been alot of buffs/Nerfs while I've been away.

A few weapons I've heard thrown around Red Death, 1000 Yard Stare? What's the best Hand Cannon now and how do I get it?

The only decent weapon I have right now is Patience and Time. Is 1000 yard stare better or is it just better in the sense that I can use an Exotic for primary instead?

Appreciate the help.
Im glad u find back to Destiny. Its a awesome game and it will just getting better with the new updates that is coming.

For the weapon choice this video is pretty spot on. https://youtu.be/E_oxiYw6Ke8

Btw How does hidden hand effect us ximplayers? I know DrLupo dont want it on his snipers. Is it because of the aim assist?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: RML on 01:21 PM - 07/02/16
Thanks guys,

Bonjah, it really depends on whether or not you like the feel of more AA. I haven't had a problem fixing the AA for any gun using the Steady Aim test firmware.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: antithesis on 06:38 PM - 07/02/16
Man I love my XIM4. I've just recently got back into Destiny (thanks to some of you) and even though I've been away for about 6 months I'm still pulling off MVP's in most of my IB matches. I'm barely at 300 light and I have crap weapons. I mean I'm using an auto rifle in the IB for god sakes.

Anyways, quick question for you guys. Since all of my old weapons are outdated, what should I be looking to upgrade or acquire for PvP.

I like to snipe and use Hand Cannons mostly. I can get The Last Word (upgraded), when I get enough marks but is it still a good weapon? I've heard there's been alot of buffs/Nerfs while I've been away.

A few weapons I've heard thrown around Red Death, 1000 Yard Stare? What's the best Hand Cannon now and how do I get it?

The only decent weapon I have right now is Patience and Time. Is 1000 yard stare better or is it just better in the sense that I can use an Exotic for primary instead?

Appreciate the help.

High rate-of-fire, low-impact, low time-to-kill is the current meta. Red Death, and all low fire-rate weapons in general, have been nerfed into the dirt due to their high TTK.

- Hawksaw Pulse Rifle (Crucible vendor), 1000-yard Stare Sniper Rifle (Vanguard vendor) and Suros JLB-47 Rocket Launcher (Gunsmith, make sure to get Grenades & Horseshoes) are good starting points.
- Farm Omnigul with a trio of Hunters for Grasp of Malok to replace the Hawksaw. Takes 1-2 min per run, depending on Orb generation.
- Stillpiercer SR for Hunters is solid, get it from the Gunsmith questline. Can't be used by other classes. I dislike the Stillpiercer and prefer either the 1000-YS or Longbow. Zen Meteor (PS4 exclusive) is the only way to go for Exotic SRs, but that's more for sh!ts and giggles.
- Party Crasher+1, Conspiracy Theory-D (both with Rangefinder) and Universal Remote dominate the Shotgun scene.
- The Last Word is still very solid and is the most used Hand Cannon in PvP. Save up your Marks, get the Y2 version and infuse that sucker up. Hawkmoon remains highly regarded, as is the baby Hawkmoon, Eyasluna, which frees up the Exotic slot.
- Doctrine of Passing is the Auto-rifle of choice. Soulstealer's Claw from Challenge of Elders is the only real alternative. Failing that, a god roll Arminius-D from the Gunsmith will do the job.
- Truth is the only Rocket Launcher worth getting and it dominates Trials. Tormod's Bellows with Tripod and Grenades & Horseshoes would be an ideal Legendary Rocket Launcher, but that only comes around once every few IBs.
- For Machine Guns, Zombie Apocalypse drops pretty frequently from packages. The raid MGs see a lot of use, but ZA has more bullets in the magazine, fires faster and is easier to get. Thunderlord if you're after an Exotic.
- MIDA Multi-tool, Cocytus SR4, Hung Jury SR4 and Tlaloc are solid Scout Rifles. Tlaloc is obtained via a Gunsmith questline for Warlocks and can be beastly, but requires you to hang onto your Super. Best swapped in when Super is full. MIDA's really the only way to go.
- Plan C, Ashraven's Flight or The Vacancy for Fusion Rifles. I really enjoy FRs, but they're still in a no man's land and can't compete with either Shotguns or Snipers. I want to get my hands on a Telesto to at least make sure that Shotgunner is going down with me.
- Havoc Pigeon (Crucible vendor) or Queen's Choice (Challenge of Elders) for Sidearms. Range is again a problem with Sidearms outclassed by other Specials.


The Last Word paired with 1000-Yard Stare, JLB-47 or a Zombie Apocalypse is a really solid load-out. Longbow (only from reputation packages) could replace 1000-YS, but they're interchangeable.


For greater insight, head to http://guardian.gg/en and click Stats > Weapons. You'll get a breakdown of the most popular weapons for all forms of PvP.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: jvr2401 on 04:37 AM - 07/03/16
Handcannon - Hawkmoon (Like a scout rifle that is vey good hip firing as well)
AR - Doctrine/Soulstealers (Not as widespread since the update but still cleans house)
Pulse - Pdx45 or Grasp (Grasp is the same as Oversoul Edict without the full auto. Get it with a range buf and win every one v one)
Scout - Mida/Tlaloc (Mida is obvs still brilliant but not OP. Tlaloc is also amazing and not OP because the cost of using it is high ie no Super)

I play a lot of PVP RML so add me if you need someone to run with.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: jvr2401 on 04:42 AM - 07/03/16
Does the curve used here for ADS fight against AA?

 I would have assumed for Destiny you dont want to negate the AA as it allows you to do some frankly silly drag snipes hence why I use an LDR as although the AA is not as high as Longbow it has larger magazine by default.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: RML on 08:50 AM - 07/03/16
Does the curve used here for ADS fight against AA?

 I would have assumed for Destiny you dont want to negate the AA as it allows you to do some frankly silly drag snipes hence why is use an LDR as although the AA is not as high as Longbow it has larger magazine by default.

The curve is meant to help with the sudden slow down caused by AA (break through the bubble effect). It's meant to help you get on the target, if you're over aiming try lowering your sensitivity as the curve is raising your sens a little.

If AA isn't an issue for you then don't use a curve. It's really meant for people that find themselves fighting the bubble effect around the player. This is much worse in PvE vs. PvP and of course some guns and attachments vary in the amount of AA.



I play a lot of PVP RML so add me if you need someone to run with.

Cool, I'm on Xbox though. I'll send you a friend request next time I'm on. I'm really needing peeps to do raids with. I haven't done any with Taken King yet so it's hard to pair up with randoms on the Destiny website. Everyone wants people with experience and higher light levels (I'm 304), can't say I blame them, but that pretty much leaves me out in the cold. Most of my friends have moved on to The Division.

I have noticed there's still ALOT of players though, the Tower is always booming. Probably even more so then the last time I played. It may just be due to the Iron Banner, IDK. I just have to make some new friends. :)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Winnnie on 08:54 AM - 07/03/16
RML Have u added me?
Id love to hook up beer n bacon raids!!!

Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: jvr2401 on 11:15 AM - 07/03/16

Cool, I'm on Xbox though. I'll send you a friend request next time I'm on. I'm really needing peeps to do raids with. I haven't done any with Taken King yet so it's hard to pair up with randoms on the Destiny website. Everyone wants people with experience and higher light levels (I'm 304), can't say I blame them, but that pretty much leaves me out in the cold. Most of my friends have moved on to The Division.

I have noticed there's still ALOT of players though, the Tower is always booming. Probably even more so then the last time I played. It may just be due to the Iron Banner, IDK. I just have to make some new friends. :)

I am on xbone as well as ps4 - gamertag bigmoo31 on both

I play all sorts of games sp Im sure we can help each other out. Destiny is still my fave game - its the gun mechanics that keep dragging me back. Plus there is nothing like headshotting a super  ;D
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: MacMiggz on 12:50 AM - 07/04/16
This is probably a noob question but I'm a little confused. On some of your configs, it's says Kpad#, what is that? It kinda sounds like a keyboard button. I thought you were using the Nav and LGS 502? Sorry again for the noob question lol
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: RML on 07:34 AM - 07/04/16
Hey MacMiggz,

Welcome to the forum!

Nothing wrong with noob questions  ;)

I do use a Nav instead of a KB. However, you can still hook a KB up to the XIM4 and use it's buttons if so desired. So I have the Nav "wireless" and then I bought a little $5.00 keypad (just numbers) so I could have some extra buttons for macros and config activation, things like that. Everything will be recognized by the XIM4. This allows me to use the Kpad (numbers on the right side of the KB) on my lap top with LGS. Then I can match that number in XIM4 manager using the Kpad that's connected to the XIM4.

Make Sense?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Mike844 on 12:36 PM - 07/04/16
I have a noob question too   :)

Does sensitivity affect curves? Like if I am in xim manager and I decrease or increase my sensitivity, do I need to change the curve, or does the curve stay the same regardless of sensitivity?

I am currently using a very small curve and have turned steady aim off and long/mid feels great, however if someone is close/mid and starts strafing left/right I do get quite a bit of aim wobble, when I am around their head.

I am using a nav and a g502. I have 12000 DPI, hip 16 and ADS 4.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: thebside on 11:44 PM - 07/05/16
RML,
I see you recently update this, are you still enjoying the curves and everything you did?  I mean, I guess you would have changed it when you update it had you disliked anything. 
I just had a quick question;
When I copied your config, I noticed that you changed the joystick deadzone from the default 7500 to  5000, was this intentional?  I wasn't sure as I didn't see anything mentioned about it.  Admittedly, I only skimmed all 14 pages.

thanks.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: thebside on 09:45 AM - 07/06/16
 Never mind, I just found that you discussed it in post #22.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: RML on 08:28 AM - 07/08/16
Sry was out of town for a bit. As far as sensitivity changing the way a curve feels ... Yes it can. How much? Well that really depends on the game's turn speed limit. Basically the faster you hit max turn speed, the faster you burn through your curve. So for REALLY aggressive curves you typically want to turn your sens way down or you'll be hitting the turn cap almost immediately.

As for the question about Stick Dead zone. At the time (when I created this thread) I was playing around with practically everything. What I've learned since, is that Left Stick Deadzone doesn't work as well for Smaller Deadzones as it does for larger deadzones. I believe this is because the deadzone is already pretty small and movement is nearly immediate. I didn't really see any improvement in responsiveness by using a smaller deadzone. What I did find is that if you get your DZ too small it glitches the menu screens and sometimes becomes non-responsive. I also found that increasing the Deadzone could be very beneficial in some games. For example, while playing the Witcher 3 I found that controlling the horse was much easier and more enjoyable while using a much larger dead zone.

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: RML on 06:54 AM - 07/11/16
Any tips on how to get a Hawkmoon? Do Exotic bounties even exist anymore? Ugh ...
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: patchm00 on 07:02 AM - 07/11/16
Any tips on how to get a Hawkmoon? Do Exotic bounties even exist anymore? Ugh ...
Did you ever get one in year 1?  If so you can just buy the year 2 hawk moon,  if not, they drop as all exotics do now (3 of coins helps).  No more exotic bounties .  I just got one last week from oryx

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Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: RML on 09:56 AM - 07/11/16
Guess I've got some farming to do  :(
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: knox66 on 07:46 PM - 07/12/16
I go over this thread about once a week to see if there is anything i missed or if i feel like changing any setups around just for fun.

What i notice is that towards the end there were several people commenting how lower DPI works better for them. Everywhere else you read it seems you have to go max DPI and adjust sensitivity inside of xim. I was wondering if odin or one of the device devs have a recommendation here from a math point of view and not a use whats comfortable. i would prefer to use what maximizes the device effectiveness and then train myself through reps to get used to it.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: antithesis on 08:55 PM - 07/14/16
I bought a Zowie FK2 (3200 DPI, 3310 sensor) to use alongside my G303 (12K DPI, 3360 sensor) to test the low DPI = more AA hypothesis.

Zowie sensitivity was calculated to mirror the 303's settings (303 sensitivity x 3.75 = FK2 sensitivity). Both are connected concurrently to the Xim via a USB hub and I can swap between both mice and Xim profiles at the touch of a button. All other settings are exactly the same (curves, boost, steady aim etc).

Honestly, I can't tell any difference between the two mice from an AA perspective, despite one functioning at 12K DPI and the other at 3.2K. The mice feel somewhat different due to shape and grip, but the sensors are more or less two generations of the same sensor with both considered "perfect". There's nothing going on in the game engine for me to believe low DPI is beneficial to AA. If anything, I feel it more on the G303 using higher DPI and lower Xim sensitivity, but that might be due to being far more used to the G303 setup.

IMHO, run your mouse at its native DPI for peak performance, everything else should even itself out, in spite of DPI differences with other mice.

If you want more AA, consider using a Sony Nav instead of a kb. Analog movement enhances AA, according to Od1n, though RML will likely argue against that. I personally rarely feel any AA in Destiny PvP using a kb, yet others report a strong tug or bubble, and they're using a Nav, almost without exception.

Nav vs kb is the only tangible difference between RML's setup and my own (same mouse, same pad, same curves, same DPI, same sens) - when I use his ADS settings, it creates the problem he's managed to eliminate using those exact same ADS settings. I can only put that down to analog vs digital movement.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: TigerToad on 09:35 AM - 07/16/16
Hi RML, I want to ask you a question: Do you think that your curves could work with other mouse than G502, to combat Destiny's AA?

P.S. Do you suggest also to "combat" Destiny's AA with XIM4, or it's better to have it?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: darksunm on 11:36 AM - 07/16/16
RML,

I am using your setting and I love it.


Quote
Any tips on how to get a Hawkmoon? Do Exotic bounties even exist anymore? Ugh ...
About Hawkmoon, you can get those easy just do not forget pop 3 coins. COE, Raid even crucible
it is RNG so Good luck

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: RML on 06:01 PM - 07/16/16
Hi RML, I want to ask you a question: Do you think that your curves could work with other mouse than G502, to combat Destiny's AA?

P.S. Do you suggest also to "combat" Destiny's AA with XIM4, or it's better to have it?

Hey TigerToad,

First of all, Welcome to the Forum!  ;D

Secondly, you can use these curves on any mouse you see fit. Some will respond slightly different solely based on their performance grade, but the overall effect will be similar.



RML,

I am using your setting and I love it.


Quote
Any tips on how to get a Hawkmoon? Do Exotic bounties even exist anymore? Ugh ...
About Hawkmoon, you can get those easy just do not forget pop 3 coins. COE, Raid even crucible
it is RNG so Good luck



Glad it's working for you. Appreciate the feedback on Hawkmoon, I've been popping coins for awhile now with no luck. I get everything else pretty much ... @#$% game hates me!  ;)

I really wish you could sell or give gear to other players.  :P
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: AFC on 12:13 PM - 07/19/16
Thanks!!!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: omglass on 02:48 PM - 07/21/16
Does anyone have the actual numbers for the new curves RML posted? I'm a mobile xim app user and not sure how else to get the new curves input.


My Setup:
G502 - 12000 DPI
HIP - 13, YX ratio .85, Boost 95, Steady Aim [ON]
ADS - 6, YX ratio 1, Boost 80, Steady Aim [ON]
Sprint - 25, YX ratio .85, Boost 350, Steady Aim [OFF], 300ms activation delay.
Sparrow - 25, YX ratio .85, Boost 1000, Steady Aim [OFF]

Some of you requested that I revisit Destiny because it felt off after upgrading to STv2. That was pretty much the driving force behind the creation of this thread. Because I agreed, Destiny no longer felt right to me either. So I dove a little deeper. Well I'm happy to say, I'm excited about Destiny again. Because "For Me" this setup is the best the game has ever played for me hands down.

Here are the curves.

Complete setup copy/paste (you'll have to set the buttons to your liking of course)
Code: [Select]
>>> XIM4 [Destiny] START PASTE >>>
X4C: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:X4C
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

HIP: (looks similar to ADS but is different because it doesn't need quite as much acceleration)
Code: [Select]
>>> XIM4 [Mouse Ballistics] START PASTE >>>
X4MB:AAAAGgA0AC4AMAAwAC4AMgAwADEANgAwADQAMAA1AA0aKThJW2+EnsjIyMjIyMjIyMjI:X4MB
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

ADS:
Code: [Select]
>>> XIM4 [Mouse Ballistics] START PASTE >>>
X4MB:AAAAGgA0AC4AMAAwAC4AMgAwADEANgAwADQAMAA1ABAgMEBQYXSJosjIyMjIyMjIyMjI:X4MB
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

SPRINT: (I optimized this curve to compliment HIP, also make sure to add 300ms activation delay, that will eliminate the jerky feel when first activating sprint.)
Code: [Select]
>>> XIM4 [Mouse Ballistics] START PASTE >>>
X4MB:AAAAGgA0AC4AMAAwAC4AMgAwADEANgAwADQAMAA1AA4cKjlHVWRygI6dq7nIyMjIyMjI:X4MB
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

Sparrow - Use ADS curve, works fine!  :)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Paladuck on 01:50 AM - 07/22/16
Hi RML,

This entire thread has just been an immensely helpful tool to configuring the XIM4 for Destiny.  Thank you so much for all your hard work! I started out a very high sensitivity and would copy and paste your settings and curves without a second thought.  The more I play however, the more I find myself using lower and lower sens and reverting back to a linear curve.

For most PC shooters where there is no aim assist, low sensitivity and 1:1 movement are paramount.  The lower sensitivity improves aim at the cost of speed.  Most pro FPS players will play at a sensitivity where a full 360 requires anywhere from 30-50cm of movement.  This means for rapid turning they are moving their entire arm.  Wrist movements are reserved for fine movements when locking onto an enemy.  For most people, having to move your entire arm across the mousepad to complete a turn is unnatural and exhausting, but ultimately I think it results in better aiming ability if you reserve the fine wrist movements for lining up a headshot.  A game with aim assist allows you to use a higher sensitivty than otherwise practical because aim assist will create some stickiness that slows down your reticle as you reach the desired point.  So essentially, at a higher sensitivity aim assist can operate to help your aim but doing what its intended to do.

Using a low sensitivty in games with aim assist like Destiny will punish you as you need to make a more dramatic movement to fight against the "stickiness" that aim assist provides. This introduces a variable as your mouse movements are going to be modified by the aim assist effect.  The curves allegedly fight against the "stickiness" by increasing velocity at lower speeds, but they also introduce an element of unpredictability, as the velocity will increase not only when aim assist is affecting you, but across the board.

The detriment to a low sensitivty is slower turn speed and is not ideal for weapons like shotguns where lookspeed is more important than aim.  This problem is compounded by Destiny's crap turn speed, especially the molasses turn speed while running.  But I do believe that learning to make "arm turns" instead of flicking your wrist can compensate for that. Once you get used to using your whole arm and not just wrist for turning, you minimize the disadvantages of a low sens.

Ultimately I've realized that it's much easier for me to deal with a linear curve, because I will have 1:1 movement except when I need to compensate in situations where I know aim assist will kick in, i.e. when I am locking onto a target.  I am slowly finding a linear curve to be preferable and more predictable than a ballistic curve where I cannot necessarily predict when the velocity increase will happen as I do not intuitively know the speed I'm moving and or when the curve will change velocities.  This is just pure speculation on my part, but I think the reason why thepr0's ADS curve has become very popular here is that it is much more linear than other curves people have previously used. 

Anyway, just some food for thought for anyone searching for that "perfect curve."  Try out linear curves and learn to compensate on your own for aim assist, without a ballistic curve.  You might find that you like it.  Thanks to everyone who has put so much work into making our Destiny experience better  :)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: antithesis on 04:33 AM - 07/22/16
A linear (or slight acceleration) curve for ADS in Destiny is perfectly fine for more controlled aim.

There aren't many weapons that you'll be firing from the HIP, so a fast acceleration curve is desirable to enable better turns & close quarters fighting (Shotguns and melee), the same applies to Sprinting - fast turns trump control.

There's no need for crazy arm sweeps when a quick wrist flick does the same job. In the end, ignore all grip and hand / arm movement advice - just do whatever feels natural.

I use RML's HIP and Sprint curves, but not the ADS curve. That's either 1:1 linear or very slight as I rarely feel any AA in PvP and have no need to accelerate into the hitbox.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: RML on 11:17 AM - 07/22/16
Hi RML,

This entire thread has just been an immensely helpful tool to configuring the XIM4 for Destiny.  Thank you so much for all your hard work! I started out a very high sensitivity and would copy and paste your settings and curves without a second thought.  The more I play however, the more I find myself using lower and lower sens and reverting back to a linear curve.

For most PC shooters where there is no aim assist, low sensitivity and 1:1 movement are paramount.  The lower sensitivity improves aim at the cost of speed.  Most pro FPS players will play at a sensitivity where a full 360 requires anywhere from 30-50cm of movement.  This means for rapid turning they are moving their entire arm.  Wrist movements are reserved for fine movements when locking onto an enemy.  For most people, having to move your entire arm across the mousepad to complete a turn is unnatural and exhausting, but ultimately I think it results in better aiming ability if you reserve the fine wrist movements for lining up a headshot.  A game with aim assist allows you to use a higher sensitivty than otherwise practical because aim assist will create some stickiness that slows down your reticle as you reach the desired point.  So essentially, at a higher sensitivity aim assist can operate to help your aim but doing what its intended to do.

Using a low sensitivty in games with aim assist like Destiny will punish you as you need to make a more dramatic movement to fight against the "stickiness" that aim assist provides. This introduces a variable as your mouse movements are going to be modified by the aim assist effect.  The curves allegedly fight against the "stickiness" by increasing velocity at lower speeds, but they also introduce an element of unpredictability, as the velocity will increase not only when aim assist is affecting you, but across the board.

The detriment to a low sensitivty is slower turn speed and is not ideal for weapons like shotguns where lookspeed is more important than aim.  This problem is compounded by Destiny's crap turn speed, especially the molasses turn speed while running.  But I do believe that learning to make "arm turns" instead of flicking your wrist can compensate for that. Once you get used to using your whole arm and not just wrist for turning, you minimize the disadvantages of a low sens.

Ultimately I've realized that it's much easier for me to deal with a linear curve, because I will have 1:1 movement except when I need to compensate in situations where I know aim assist will kick in, i.e. when I am locking onto a target.  I am slowly finding a linear curve to be preferable and more predictable than a ballistic curve where I cannot necessarily predict when the velocity increase will happen as I do not intuitively know the speed I'm moving and or when the curve will change velocities.  This is just pure speculation on my part, but I think the reason why thepr0's ADS curve has become very popular here is that it is much more linear than other curves people have previously used. 

Anyway, just some food for thought for anyone searching for that "perfect curve."  Try out linear curves and learn to compensate on your own for aim assist, without a ballistic curve.  You might find that you like it.  Thanks to everyone who has put so much work into making our Destiny experience better  :)

Hey Paladuck,

Thanks for taking the time to add your input.  :)

A couple of things I'd like to point out after reading this.

- I too believe that you should move and aim in the way you have described. This is especially important with Destiny because slower consistent movement registers better with a slow look mech.

- My ADS curves are always created to work in conjunction with aiming on or close to a target. The idea of course is for the acceleration to kick in while within that spectrum.

- I've heard many people make this comment about 1:1. But what is 1:1 really? This isn't PC and games on console have several factors that make 1:1 movement very controversial IMO. To name a few, Aim Assist, Acceleration, deceleration and timed acceleration. When people say PC is 1:1, they're talking about moving their mouse and that movement matching exactly what happens on the screen. When people say ST's are 1:1, they're saying the ST is trained to match the games look mechanic, whatever that may or may not incorporate. So ... 1:1 may have acceleration, deceleration or timed acceleration inherently built into it. This is why I tend to chuckle at the whole 1:1 thing. That's fine, call it 1:1, just understand what 1:1 really is. Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing ST's. They do a fantastic job of replicating the games look mechanics. I always suggest people start with Vanilla ST and figure out for themselves where they need to go from there. 

- When I first started creating curves it was because games didn't "Feel" 1:1 to me. So, my intention was always to try and smooth things out. To remove acceleration or combat Aim Assist, stuff like that. I've been messing with them long enough now though that I've almost adapted a new play style. I like control, but I also want things to feel snappier. That's always my goal with HIP, I want it to be accurate but also very responsive. ADS, I'm always looking for a balance between taking advantage of AA and being able to control my aim in the hit box.

- Your right though, there is no "Perfect curve" for everyone. Curves are about sharing ideas that others can learn from or take and morph into something that better fits their play style.

Cheers!  :)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Johnintoit on 03:18 PM - 07/25/16
So I have been playing around with this XIM4 since I got it a few weeks back and trying to get it configured right with Destiny and still having all kinds of issues with mouse movement speed.
It's taking me multiple scrolls across my mouse pad to make a single rotation, anyone have any ideas as to what I am doing wrong? I copied and pasted the config from this thread and the figures look the same but obv I'm missing something.
I am using a Logitech G900 Chaos Spectrum and G13 for my keyboard, I'm on X1.
any help or suggestions would greatly be appreciated.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: antithesis on 03:37 PM - 07/25/16
So I have been playing around with this XIM4 since I got it a few weeks back and trying to get it configured right with Destiny and still having all kinds of issues with mouse movement speed.
It's taking me multiple scrolls across my mouse pad to make a single rotation, anyone have any ideas as to what I am doing wrong? I copied and pasted the config from this thread and the figures look the same but obv I'm missing something.
I am using a Logitech G900 Chaos Spectrum and G13 for my keyboard, I'm on X1.
any help or suggestions would greatly be appreciated.

Check your mouse DPI (ensure it's saved on-board the mouse via Logitech Gaming Software) and / or Xim sensitivity. Keep in mind, this is not PC gaming, so PC DPI settings won't translate to console.

Maximise your DPI to 12K, drop HIP sensitivity to around 12-13 and ADS to around 7-8. Use RML's HIP and Sprint configs. Try his ADS settings, but also try thepr0's ADS curve - they're very different and you should like one or the other.

With these settings, a full 360 should be possible within 3-4 inches, while retaining good ADS accuracy and control.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Johnintoit on 03:50 PM - 07/25/16
Thanks Antithesis, I will try it again in a bit and post back my results, that turn radios in 3/4 inches is what I'm looking for to be sure.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: rahxephon on 05:20 PM - 08/07/16
so i'm having problems pasting this config to my xim manager, i press the 3 dots and it does not give me any option to paste, is this config still relevant with the latest update? also will this config work for ps4?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Lineater on 11:03 PM - 08/07/16
So I have been playing around with this XIM4 since I got it a few weeks back and trying to get it configured right with Destiny and still having all kinds of issues with mouse movement speed.
It's taking me multiple scrolls across my mouse pad to make a single rotation, anyone have any ideas as to what I am doing wrong? I copied and pasted the config from this thread and the figures look the same but obv I'm missing something.
I am using a Logitech G900 Chaos Spectrum and G13 for my keyboard, I'm on X1.
any help or suggestions would greatly be appreciated.

Probably already did this, but make sure your in-game look sensitivity is set to max (10).
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Cantbstopped91 on 06:02 PM - 08/08/16
Hey mate,

I have copied your set up except i have removed the steady aim feature as i have been advised it is not recommended for Destiny.

Do you feel your last word is a little off? I feel i miss shots i normally should not. Not sure if ballistic curves have anything to do with this.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Lineater on 11:55 PM - 08/08/16
Hey mate,

I have copied your set up except i have removed the steady aim feature as i have been advised it is not recommended for Destiny.

Do you feel your last word is a little off? I feel i miss shots i normally should not. Not sure if ballistic curves have anything to do with this.

Thanks.

Curves come down to personal preference. Your ads curve might be too aggressive. I would start with no curve and see how it feels. Also check out this thread for more curves to try:


http://xim4.com/community/index.php?topic=47132.0 (http://xim4.com/community/index.php?topic=47132.0)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: kyux88 on 09:28 PM - 08/14/16
hello RML,

i've been using your setup for destiny. but recently i updated my firmware to 6024 for overwatch. i think it messes up with destiny settings, my crosshair is twitching with the slightest touch on my mouse lol. could you please help me? thank you...
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: GhettoFishcake on 09:11 AM - 08/16/16

Do you feel your last word is a little off? I feel i miss shots i normally should not. Not sure if ballistic curves have anything to do with this.

Thanks.

When you say miss shots..?

I find with Last Word there are times (rare) where I'll be perfect distance, ADS, and enemies take no damage. I figure that's an intended variance within the guns own statistics in terms of its ability to hit where you aim.

It's frustrating for sure.

Whereas the Lord High Fixer (I think it's called that) never misses a shot.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Dragontorc on 10:10 AM - 08/17/16
I laso cant find anywhere to paste the configs, please advise
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: R3MiX on 11:05 AM - 08/17/16
Scroll all the way down. You'll see a arrow pointing down. That s the paste function.

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Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: akeezer on 08:32 AM - 08/19/16
My Mouse sensitivity is set to 300. I have no idea how you would turn faster than a snails pace with 25. I do have in game sensitivity at 100 btw.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: antithesis on 09:37 AM - 08/19/16
My Mouse sensitivity is set to 300. I have no idea how you would turn faster than a snails pace with 25. I do have in game sensitivity at 100 btw.

Anything over 100 Xim sensitivity loses fidelity due to interpolation.

This isn't PC gaming where you can get away with 800 DPI. Maximise your mouse DPI for Xim to get closest to the raw input from its sensor.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: akeezer on 10:29 AM - 08/19/16
My Mouse sensitivity is set to 300. I have no idea how you would turn faster than a snails pace with 25. I do have in game sensitivity at 100 btw.

Anything over 100 Xim sensitivity loses fidelity due to interpolation.

This isn't PC gaming where you can get away with 800 DPI. Maximise your mouse DPI for Xim to get closest to the raw input from its sensor.

I do notice a big different between 300 and 100. 300 is much better IMO. As for DPI mine is set at 12,000 which is max on the Logitech g502.

I'm open to suggestions but in 6 months of playing with settings frequently this is what I've concluded.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: antithesis on 10:48 AM - 08/19/16
I do notice a big different between 300 and 100. 300 is much better IMO. As for DPI mine is set at 12,000 which is max on the Logitech g502.

I'm open to suggestions but in 6 months of playing with settings frequently this is what I've concluded.

Are you seriously using 300 as the Xim sensitivity? That won't make any difference beyond the turn-speed limit, which should kick in at around 15-20 @ 12K DPI, other than destroying the Xim's mouse translation.

Ideally, you don't want the Xim's red-light flashing except for flick movements, which don't really work on console. Dial it down and the red-light should stop at around 7-20, depending on HIP or ADS.

Make sure you're using the on-board profile of your mouse to store the DPI because 300 sensitivity is seriously wrong.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: One-Eyed-Jack on 05:23 PM - 08/19/16
hello and ty for the great work and passion u spent in this thread.
i bought xim for overwatch and destiny and after a long break on this last game,which i was playing with playstation4 pad, i choosed to give it another shot with the new dlc release.but also have loooooots of doubts and im totally noob about xim configuration so i have some questions.
1 in the first page there r lots of configs to copy and paste but i really dont understand which is the one to copy, all ? or what ? there is a final version to copy which works better than the previous ? and if i have to copy more than one like for hip, ads etc etc do i have to switch them by pressing a button or the xim recognize the configuration by itself according to what happens in game ?
im totally honest i didnt read all 49 pages of the thread could u make it easier for the biggest noob of the forum ? what do i have to copy and paste and how does it works in game exactly ?
a big big thank you
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Paladuck on 12:03 PM - 08/21/16
Finally ordered a nav after using a KB for a year. Despite tons of practice I was getting tired of always missing jumps or accidentally backing into corners.  I dunno if the move controller will fix that but its worth a shot lol.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: RML on 01:00 PM - 08/21/16
hello and ty for the great work and passion u spent in this thread.
i bought xim for overwatch and destiny and after a long break on this last game,which i was playing with playstation4 pad, i choosed to give it another shot with the new dlc release.but also have loooooots of doubts and im totally noob about xim configuration so i have some questions.
1 in the first page there r lots of configs to copy and paste but i really dont understand which is the one to copy, all ? or what ? there is a final version to copy which works better than the previous ? and if i have to copy more than one like for hip, ads etc etc do i have to switch them by pressing a button or the xim recognize the configuration by itself according to what happens in game ?
im totally honest i didnt read all 49 pages of the thread could u make it easier for the biggest noob of the forum ? what do i have to copy and paste and how does it works in game exactly ?
a big big thank you

I've been away for a little while. I'm going to do a MAJOR makeover of the Original post very soon. I have a completely different (more ANAL then ever) setup now. :)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: One-Eyed-Jack on 04:41 PM - 08/21/16
great
going to buy the lube in the while then ! ahaha joking
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Winnnie on 05:22 PM - 08/21/16
I've been away for a little while. I'm going to do a MAJOR makeover of the Original post very soon. I have a completely different (more ANAL then ever) setup now. :)

I CANT WAIT!!!!!

THANK YOU!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: R3MiX on 06:25 PM - 08/21/16
hello and ty for the great work and passion u spent in this thread.
i bought xim for overwatch and destiny and after a long break on this last game,which i was playing with playstation4 pad, i choosed to give it another shot with the new dlc release.but also have loooooots of doubts and im totally noob about xim configuration so i have some questions.
1 in the first page there r lots of configs to copy and paste but i really dont understand which is the one to copy, all ? or what ? there is a final version to copy which works better than the previous ? and if i have to copy more than one like for hip, ads etc etc do i have to switch them by pressing a button or the xim recognize the configuration by itself according to what happens in game ?
im totally honest i didnt read all 49 pages of the thread could u make it easier for the biggest noob of the forum ? what do i have to copy and paste and how does it works in game exactly ?
a big big thank you

I've been away for a little while. I'm going to do a MAJOR makeover of the Original post very soon. I have a completely different (more ANAL then ever) setup now. :)


Does it involve getting DP'd?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: lowresolution666 on 11:13 PM - 08/21/16
Quote
I've been away for a little while. I'm going to do a MAJOR makeover of the Original post very soon. I have a completely different (more ANAL then ever) setup now. :)

Hey man ! it`ll be great if you can make a Keyboard version of your config for Noobs like me :$ . Will highly appreciate the spoon feeding  ;D
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: RML on 07:27 AM - 08/22/16
great
going to buy the lube in the while then ! ahaha joking

Ok, maybe anal was a bad choice of words. How about absolutely INSANE! I guarantee you most of you will be afraid to touch it use it.  :P




Does it involve getting DP'd?

DP'd?





Hey man ! it`ll be great if you can make a Keyboard version of your config for Noobs like me :$ . Will highly appreciate the spoon feeding  ;D

I don't do KB's sry. There are tons of Key boarders around here that may share their secrets though.



BTW, do you guys think I should just start a new thread? I'm not sure I want to erase everything in the OP. Most of it is out of date though.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: R3MiX on 07:32 AM - 08/22/16
great
going to buy the lube in the while then ! ahaha joking

Ok, maybe anal was a bad choice of words. How about absolutely INSANE! I guarantee you most of you will be afraid to touch it use it.  [emoji14]




Does it involve getting DP'd?

DP'd?




Quote

Hey man ! it`ll be great if you can make a Keyboard version of your config for Noobs like me :$ . Will highly appreciate the spoon feeding  ;D

I don't do KB's sry. There are tons of Key boarders around here that may share their secrets though.



BTW, do you guys think I should just start a new thread? I'm not sure I want to erase everything in the OP. Most of it is out of date though.
Porn reference for double penetration LOL

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Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: RML on 07:33 AM - 08/22/16
Oouch!!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Winnnie on 07:34 AM - 08/22/16
NEW THREAD!
XXX

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Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Jonezed7 on 10:50 AM - 08/22/16
hello and ty for the great work and passion u spent in this thread.
i bought xim for overwatch and destiny and after a long break on this last game,which i was playing with playstation4 pad, i choosed to give it another shot with the new dlc release.but also have loooooots of doubts and im totally noob about xim configuration so i have some questions.
1 in the first page there r lots of configs to copy and paste but i really dont understand which is the one to copy, all ? or what ? there is a final version to copy which works better than the previous ? and if i have to copy more than one like for hip, ads etc etc do i have to switch them by pressing a button or the xim recognize the configuration by itself according to what happens in game ?
im totally honest i didnt read all 49 pages of the thread could u make it easier for the biggest noob of the forum ? what do i have to copy and paste and how does it works in game exactly ?
a big big thank you

I've been away for a little while. I'm going to do a MAJOR makeover of the Original post very soon. I have a completely different (more ANAL then ever) setup now. :)

Been using the one posted. Can't wait! Thanks again for all of your work.


Quote
I've been away for a little while. I'm going to do a MAJOR makeover of the Original post very soon. I have a completely different (more ANAL then ever) setup now. :)

Hey man ! it`ll be great if you can make a Keyboard version of your config for Noobs like me :$ . Will highly appreciate the spoon feeding  ;D


I use a keyboard (Logitech G410) and can share my setup if you're interested.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: R3MiX on 12:23 PM - 08/22/16
RML that's awesome that you'll be updating your anal setup. Thank you for your hard work and dedication to help this community especially for us Destiny players on here. With The Rise Of Iron coming out next month and your new setup it's  perfect timing. You've helped me a lot and your anal setup made me become a better player. I would like to ask your  permission as a tribute to you for your hard work, if I can use your name for a clan for the month of September.

"Rocky Mountain Legends"
 [ RML ]

I know it may sound corny for me to ask but I respect and appreciate hard work and commitment.

If anyone wants to do the same feel free.This is just a way to show our appreciation to RML.




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Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: RML on 07:24 PM - 08/22/16
"Rocky Mountain Legends" ... Nice! I'm glad I'm on XB1, I wouldn't want to meet you guys in a skirmish.

Knock yourself out man, I know you'll represent well.

Appreciate the kind words and reference :)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: matthewk85 on 05:39 PM - 08/23/16
I've been away for a little while. I'm going to do a MAJOR makeover of the Original post very soon. I have a completely different (more ANAL then ever) setup now. :)

Haven't checked this thread for a while, but always keen to try a further finely tuned setup. I'm still running the second test drop fw with a curve you created for it, but I have a spare Xim I'll load your new work on to. Look forward to it.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: PattyBoy123 on 09:39 PM - 08/25/16
I dunno why but it seems like I cant turn fast enough even with the rml curve and settings...
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: RML on 07:40 AM - 08/26/16
I dunno why but it seems like I cant turn fast enough even with the rml curve and settings...

What's your DPI and sens settings?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: PattyBoy123 on 12:34 PM - 08/26/16
I dunno why but it seems like I cant turn fast enough even with the rml curve and settings...

What's your DPI and sens settings?

Dpi 12k and sens is the same as yours like 50 with boost etc, used all the settings you had with the same setup
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: RML on 09:24 AM - 08/28/16
The turn cap won't let you turn as fast as other games like COD and BF. You have to adjust to it. Make sure you use slower "Consistent" mouse sweeps and movement. Fast hand movement will quickly red light you and actually hinder your turn speed.

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: RML on 02:37 PM - 08/28/16
Just posted my absolutely INSANE setup here - http://xim4.com/community/index.php?topic=48664.0
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: MuRRe on 12:41 PM - 09/15/16
Could someone share the changes from the Full config if I play with a keyboard instead of nav?
Very confused, just got my Xim4 a couple of days ago.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Bhamrah83 on 06:09 PM - 10/01/16
For some reason when press select, it doesn't highlight the code. What am I doing wrong? Any help please.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: akeezer on 10:25 AM - 10/07/16
I dunno why but it seems like I cant turn fast enough even with the rml curve and settings...

I can turn fast when just running around and for the most part this config is amazing (so kudos to OP) but my issue I seem to face is specifically with Blade super. It is nearly impossible to do a 180 like you can on a controller so I rely heavily on my radar for direction. Its definitely less effective but it's the best that can be done. Increasing sensitivity elsewhere makes it more difficult to fire consistently with a primary or use a sniper. Shotgunning would be the only thing that would benefit from increased turn assist as you're often fighting in close quarters.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Bradaconda on 10:35 PM - 10/22/16
I just bought my first XIM a few days ago, it was great! Plug and play after downloading a standard config for Destiny and Gears of War 4. I decided to see what else I could do and found this thread. This looks amazing and surprisingly not overwhelming for how much information is here! Now my question.

I have a G502 mouse, but I use a Logitech G13 keypad instead of a nav and want to map my keys differently. If I go through and set your curves the way they are with the activation and deactivation keys, create the macros in LGS and bind them to different keys will it work like your set up or does you code need to used?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: antithesis on 12:31 AM - 10/23/16
I just bought my first XIM a few days ago, it was great! Plug and play after downloading a standard config for Destiny and Gears of War 4. I decided to see what else I could do and found this thread. This looks amazing and surprisingly not overwhelming for how much information is here! Now my question.

I have a G502 mouse, but I use a Logitech G13 keypad instead of a nav and want to map my keys differently. If I go through and set your curves the way they are with the activation and deactivation keys, create the macros in LGS and bind them to different keys will it work like your set up or does you code need to used?

Sensitivity and bindings can be tweaked to your liking. The code is just a starting point, with the Ballistics Curves being the defining feature.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Bradaconda on 06:16 AM - 10/23/16
I just bought my first XIM a few days ago, it was great! Plug and play after downloading a standard config for Destiny and Gears of War 4. I decided to see what else I could do and found this thread. This looks amazing and surprisingly not overwhelming for how much information is here! Now my question.

I have a G502 mouse, but I use a Logitech G13 keypad instead of a nav and want to map my keys differently. If I go through and set your curves the way they are with the activation and deactivation keys, create the macros in LGS and bind them to different keys will it work like your set up or does you code need to used?

Sensitivity and bindings can be tweaked to your liking. The code is just a starting point, with the Ballistics Curves being the defining feature.

Worked like a charm, thanks for being awesome! Couldn't quite figure out how to manually get the ballistic curve but then I realized I could email the code to myself and copy it into the android app.

Thanks again!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: nick123194 on 02:09 PM - 11/23/16
I would love to use this setup however the macro delay for going to orbit in destiny isn't available on imgur. does someone have  the G502 setup that I could base my settings off from?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: nick123194 on 11:25 PM - 11/28/16
took me awhile but I figured out the macros myself...
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: grimbaldo on 07:35 PM - 02/09/17
Hello I'm new with the xim4 and I tryed the setup with setting my g502 to 4K dpi and 500 rate but when I'm in game and try to aim it's to fast to track the target, I tryed to slow it down but there is no changes can some help me out ?


Sry for my ( bad English  I'm from Germany and still got the school stuff in my head )
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: systole on 08:14 PM - 02/09/17
i know there are some nice people around here to help out in german.
But, first i would check that your mouse saves to on-board memory and not to the pc. check using the logitech software, its a big switch on the first opened page. this isnt your mouse but should be the same. you can set custom colors to the profiles you configure to verify your settings once you connect with the XIM
(https://secure.logitech.com/assets/49607/21/g602-wireless-gaming-mouse.jpg)
next note: high sensitivity is extremely helpful with destiny to help combat the super high aim assist in game. RML has the great suggestion of using as high sensitivity as you can while still being controllable. that doesnt mean you will be comfortable with it at first, but you will get used to it.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: grimbaldo on 04:28 AM - 02/10/17
Hi,


I saved the profiles on the mouse there is everything okay I set a second ( destiny profile ) and there is everything okay hmmm...
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: humanfemale on 08:22 AM - 02/10/17
So you have 4000DPI on the mouse confirmed...

But what is your xim4 Hip sensitivity in the Destiny profile? Lower that to 1.0 and start increasing by +1.0 from there until you are comfortable.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: grimbaldo on 10:28 AM - 02/10/17
Hi,


I use the Profil from this post so I just copy past to try it but  ADS is way to fast to track the target and there is the send 11,5 ithink and I tryed to slow it down to 4,5 and there is no change.

Than I load my old profile and it works ( they are no curves ) I think I'm not doIng anything wrong but maybe I do don't know guys :(
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Chauncey on 04:07 PM - 02/10/17
Be sure to set the ADS activation key to match the button you use to ADS.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: grimbaldo on 06:14 PM - 02/10/17
I found my problem thank u for the tip I didn't change at the ads the button that I use to aim it was the old button  from the copy 😅🙈 but thanks for the help
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: XboxJunkie on 06:20 AM - 02/21/17
Hi All,  just got my Xim4 for Destiny on PS4 and will be setting it up shortly.

My question is, ho dependent is this config on the G502 mouse. I got an older G5 mouse that maxes out at 2000dpi. Is this going to be an issue?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: thebside on 03:08 PM - 03/04/17
I don't think it is dependent, you will just need to adjust your XIM sensitivity to your liking.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: herbie4206 on 08:11 AM - 03/15/17
Im sorry if this is a stupid question, but is there somewhere that you show all your g502 mouse binds and config.

Could someone link me to it. Thanks.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: HRH FURY on 02:20 PM - 03/23/17
I tried pasting the code via my XIM4 iPhone app and it gives me the red triangle? 
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Wasd1 on 07:12 AM - 05/31/17
Question, in game settings in Destiny.. Do i need to change look sensitivity?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: Lineater on 09:16 PM - 05/31/17
Question, in game settings in Destiny.. Do i need to change look sensitivity?

Yes, make sure in-game sensitivity is maxed (10).
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: huska85 on 04:49 AM - 06/08/17
The pictures from OP are deleted from IMGUR.

Is there anyone who can repost them? Im looking for the one picture with the mouse settings. The macro etc.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: pt21 on 02:10 PM - 06/30/17
Does anybody know what destiny settings I should use? I just got an xim4 and I wanted to practice in destiny pve but the images from this thread are gone
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: RML on 02:14 PM - 06/30/17
Does anybody know what destiny settings I should use? I just got an xim4 and I wanted to practice in destiny pve but the images from this thread are gone

Make a new Destiny config and copy/paste my entire config into it. Then you can either use that or draw from it to add to your setup and delete it when you're done.

BTW, sry bout the pics, they were accidentally deleted. I'm not to happy about it either, lot of work there...  >:(
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (UPDATED 05/24/16)
Post by: iodine on 07:21 PM - 06/30/17
Make a new Destiny config and copy/paste my entire config into it. Then you can either use that or draw from it to add to your setup and delete it when you're done.

BTW, sry bout the pics, they were accidentally deleted. I'm not to happy about it either, lot of work there...  >:(

Thanks for staying on top of this for so long. shows lots of dedication
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Under Construction)
Post by: RML on 01:15 PM - 07/03/17
Under construction!
 ::)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/04/17)
Post by: RML on 08:51 AM - 07/04/17
Thanks for staying on top of this for so long. shows lots of dedication

I think alot of users have learned something from this thread even if they don't play Destiny.

Thanks to everyone that keeps the wheels turning, It's the thread that keeps on giving!

Updated!

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/04/17)
Post by: thepr0 on 11:16 PM - 07/04/17
Glad to see you always helping others in the community. Im basically done with destiny but these curves look very nice keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/04/17)
Post by: undazpoon on 02:21 AM - 07/07/17
Thanks, always!
I'll try your updated settings!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/04/17)
Post by: Aspid on 03:57 AM - 07/07/17
Thank you,RML, for posting these updated settings! I will definitely try them in trials today. That sprint curve looks really interesting.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/04/17)
Post by: RML on 05:53 AM - 07/07/17
Thank you,RML, for posting these updated settings! I will definitely try them in trials today. That sprint curve looks really interesting.

My goal with the sprint curve was to not be able to feel a slow down while activating in the middle of a turn. So it should feel seamless from hip to sprint, it's definitely a little more sensitive though but I prefer it after getting used to it. Make sure you use at least a 200ms delay with it.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/04/17)
Post by: lockzye on 10:36 AM - 07/07/17
I enjoy it, it's my first time playing with curves with destiny and it feels better. I have a question for you RML, what was your goal with pve curve? You're using the same sens for both ads, so pve is faster than pvp. Does the pve curve have more anti aim than the pvp one?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/04/17)
Post by: RML on 11:43 AM - 07/07/17
I enjoy it, it's my first time playing with curves with destiny and it feels better. I have a question for you RML, what was your goal with pve curve? You're using the same sens for both ads, so pve is faster than pvp. Does the pve curve have more anti aim than the pvp one?

Yes I created this to give you more Anti AA with PvE. PvE has more AA the PvP, at least that's how it feels to me. I mostly use hand cannons and I find that curve is great for head shots. It works really well for all guns though overall. I haven't spent more then a couple of hrs. with the PvP curve but it felt close to me. I don't have Rise of Iron so crucible sucks ATM. I may buy it if it goes on sale or Destiny 2 blows or something crazy.

I will spend more time with the PvP curve next week. Probably Tuesday/Weds, have an enduro over the weekend. The wife's gone for a few weeks, which is why I've been so busy here lately ha! Got my gaming goggles on!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/04/17)
Post by: ELiLLTE on 07:40 AM - 07/08/17
Hi this is my first reply but I have been looking at the forums for a while.

Firstly thankyou for this advanced setup and your other setups RML they are really good, quick question how do I switch from pve ads to pvp ads??
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/04/17)
Post by: RML on 09:06 AM - 07/08/17
Hi this is my first reply but I have been looking at the forums for a while.

Firstly thankyou for this advanced setup and your other setups RML they are really good, quick question how do I switch from pve ads to pvp ads??


Hello ELiLLTE and welcome to the forums. To change which ADS you use you need to deactivate one and activate the other in XIM Manager. You do this by removing and assigning the activation key within the chosen sub config. So if you use a Nav like I do then ADS is activated by left trigger. You need to deactivate that by just double tapping the box. Then go to the other sub config for PvP ADS and tap the activation box once then press LT on your NAV to assign the activation key.

You can also alternate curves in your primary ADS if you prefer by copy/paste the codes.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/04/17)
Post by: ELiLLTE on 12:06 PM - 07/08/17
Thankyou so much for your reply, makes sense! I literally didn't have a clue lol!

I'm planning on using it for the destiny 2 beta, will this be the setup you use for it?

I am also using nav and logitech g502. I was using a venom x and this is sooo much better, so glad I switched over!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/04/17)
Post by: RML on 03:38 PM - 07/08/17
I also tried Tuact first because they had the wand and I didn't know about NAV. So I started with Aimon and I immediately gave it away after getting my first XIM.

I'm not sure what I'll be using for Destiny 2. I've heard the look mech is very similar so this very well may be my starting point. That is partially why I started playing again "occasionally". That and I couldn't let this thread die all jacked up after I deleted the wrong album in Imgur.

Also doesn't hurt that the wifes OOT :P
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/04/17)
Post by: Bimbo2233 on 02:42 AM - 07/10/17
I have bought a Xim4 this weekend and I am trying to set up the setting atm. I already managed to getting Xim4 running with my hardware (PS4, Zowie FK1 and Corsair STRAFE). Your settings are looking good and also pretty comprehensibly. I have learned a lot and I want to use them. There is just one thing I am not understanding. You have got Hip and Sparrow setting. Also you have Aim Down Sight (PVE) and Multiplayer Ads (PVP) settings. How does Xim4 know which one to use? I mean for PVE an PVP Ads you have an activation, but it is the same button, right? The same thing with Hip and Sparrow. How does Xim4 know I am riding a sparrow?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/04/17)
Post by: RML on 09:18 AM - 07/10/17
I have bought a Xim4 this weekend and I am trying to set up the setting atm. I already managed to getting Xim4 running with my hardware (PS4, Zowie FK1 and Corsair STRAFE). Your settings are looking good and also pretty comprehensibly. I have learned a lot and I want to use them. There is just one thing I am not understanding. You have got Hip and Sparrow setting. Also you have Aim Down Sight (PVE) and Multiplayer Ads (PVP) settings. How does Xim4 know which one to use? I mean for PVE an PVP Ads you have an activation, but it is the same button, right? The same thing with Hip and Sparrow. How does Xim4 know I am riding a sparrow?

As far as Sparrow goes, that won't work properly unless you set it up with a macro and assign the appropriate button bindings in manager. The easiest way to do this if you have LGS is to copy paste my setup and then change the buttons to match your style. Watch the video in the OP for more info on that LGS and manager. For Copy/paste questions look at the Advanced settings link in my signature.

For ADS you will have to alternate configs for PvE and PvP, it will not know the difference otherwise. That or just lower your ADS sensitivity for PvP that's what I typically do.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/04/17)
Post by: RML on 09:29 AM - 07/10/17
Updated OP with a few new settings on HIP (removed 500 boost for less jitter), Lowered Sens on Sprint and Sparrow (was a little too over sensitive IMO).
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/04/17)
Post by: ELiLLTE on 02:47 AM - 07/12/17
Thankyou for clarifying our nobby questions 😂 it really does help! Can't wait to try this out on the beta next week!!! Do you think you'll update the thread with any adjustments you make for the destiny 2 beta and full game? Or just make a new post?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/04/17)
Post by: RML on 03:36 AM - 07/12/17
No worries, I'll be creating a new thread for Destiny 2. :)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/04/17)
Post by: tzeeth on 04:38 AM - 07/12/17
No worries, I'll be creating a new thread for Destiny 2. :)
Hi!
Thanks for contributing as you do here, Xim is a great product thanks to all people that make these configs and community.
Are you playing Destiny 2 on 18? I hope to see your new things ^^
Today I will make a test with your new settings and see how I feel with them.
Again thanks!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/04/17)
Post by: thepr0 on 04:42 AM - 07/12/17
Hey RML the revive time is 4 seconds that I know of in pvp, just a heads up.  Less than 4 seconds if you have quick revive  such as alpha lupi or LBN. You might get away with 3.5 seconds, but that you'll have to test.  I'm almost sure it's set at 4 seconds min.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/04/17)
Post by: mcav11 on 06:56 PM - 07/15/17
so i just bought a g502. play on 4000 dpi and a cloth pad. around 50 sens and i use one of your curves. Biggest question is. How can I turn faster? Such as 180s . Just increase my sens alot?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/04/17)
Post by: RML on 11:30 PM - 07/15/17
Hey RML the revive time is 4 seconds that I know of in pvp, just a heads up.  Less than 4 seconds if you have quick revive  such as alpha lupi or LBN. You might get away with 3.5 seconds, but that you'll have to test.  I'm almost sure it's set at 4 seconds min.

Haha... Thanks Pro, you can tell I play PvP alot lol. I'll update it when I get a chance.


so i just bought a g502. play on 4000 dpi and a cloth pad. around 50 sens and i use one of your curves. Biggest question is. How can I turn faster? Such as 180s . Just increase my sens alot?

Pretty much! Make sure you use the hip curve and you can also use turn assist if you want but it's really best for vehicles.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/04/17)
Post by: Diehard22222 on 06:03 AM - 07/17/17
hey RML are you going to play the destiny 2 beta early access? how long do you think it will take you to come up with a profile for destiny 2 beta? is there any way to use your destiny profile for the destiny 2 beta?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/04/17)
Post by: RML on 11:05 PM - 07/17/17
hey RML are you going to play the destiny 2 beta early access? how long do you think it will take you to come up with a profile for destiny 2 beta? is there any way to use your destiny profile for the destiny 2 beta?

yeah I should be playing it, I'm hopeing my new Anti AA curves do the trick.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/04/17)
Post by: BeastFromTheEast on 12:55 AM - 07/18/17
Since beta is out for xbox tom what is the current/ most popular set up for the destiny config as I'm gonna assume it will work on destiny 2 well enough
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/04/17)
Post by: Kinkzor on 06:32 AM - 07/18/17
As someone who has been using default since..always (since shortly after release and I got my Xim4)

THANK YOU. Dear god... why did I Not do this before.... Its so much more crisp. It really removed a lot of the "Soupyness" of the aim, which I was just used to and played fine with, but now, oh my. Oh my oh my oh my.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/04/17)
Post by: RML on 08:41 AM - 07/18/17
As someone who has been using default since..always (since shortly after release and I got my Xim4)

THANK YOU. Dear god... why did I Not do this before.... Its so much more crisp. It really removed a lot of the "Soupyness" of the aim, which I was just used to and played fine with, but now, oh my. Oh my oh my oh my.

I knew day one, something had to be done to make this game more manageable. Glad you finally came around. ;)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/04/17)
Post by: RML on 08:07 AM - 07/22/17
Updated 7/22/17
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/22/17)
Post by: bastyen on 01:52 PM - 08/08/17
Hello RML,

What is the firmware you use ?

Best regards.
S
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/22/17)
Post by: RML on 02:24 PM - 08/08/17
Latest Gold firmware.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/22/17)
Post by: jasontran600 on 02:05 AM - 08/09/17
Hey, just got my xim4 this week and tried out your settings. Everytime i aim it's so slow though!! What should i do?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/22/17)
Post by: JarBOR on 05:31 AM - 08/09/17
Max sens in game
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/22/17)
Post by: RML on 08:31 AM - 08/09/17
Hey, just got my xim4 this week and tried out your settings. Everytime i aim it's so slow though!! What should i do?

Hey jasontran600,

Welcome to the community!

Few things
- Destiny has a lower turn speed limit then games like COD and BF so it's never going to feel as fluid as those two games.
- If you're coming from PC you need to realize that "twitch' gaming isn't really a reality on consoles, especially with destiny due to the games look mech.

So what can you do?
1. Make sure your in game sensitivity is maxed out at 10
2. Turn up your senses as high as you can so long as you don't feel like you have wasted movement between your hand movement and motion on the screen. The red light will often flash on Xim but as long as movement doesn't feel wasted it's a non factor, just a warning.
3. Try to use slower consistent movement of your mouse. Consistent movement of your hand that just rides that flashing light is important for this game and pretty much all games with Xim.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/22/17)
Post by: casual_gamer_ on 03:03 PM - 08/13/17
Don't mean to intrude on a Destiny thread but RML, what was the formula to figure out this curve? I want to apply it on The Division but it's different mechanic, but similarly bad (slow turn speeds, aim assist bubble very prominent in CQC which feels like dragging through mud.

What was the trial and error process? At this point I'm tempted to remove the aim assist and just relearn to aim on my own with the mouse as I did 2 patches ago.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/22/17)
Post by: uncle_solf on 05:39 PM - 08/24/17
As we look forward to Destiny 2, I just wanted to poke in here and say thanks RML.

your efforts really made a difference in my ability to enjoy and excel in Destiny 1, and I truly appreciate all the time you take to share your experiments and knowledge.

If you're ever in the Hudson Valley NY I'd love to buy you a beer my friend.

cheers, and thanks again Guardian.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/22/17)
Post by: RML on 08:56 AM - 08/25/17
Don't mean to intrude on a Destiny thread but RML, what was the formula to figure out this curve? I want to apply it on The Division but it's different mechanic, but similarly bad (slow turn speeds, aim assist bubble very prominent in CQC which feels like dragging through mud.

What was the trial and error process? At this point I'm tempted to remove the aim assist and just relearn to aim on my own with the mouse as I did 2 patches ago.

I build Anti Aim Assist curves purely in game and by feel. I have to give a shout out to a friend on this one (he knows who he is). He joins me in private matches and acts as my "moving target." This way we simulate engagements at varies distances, movements, weapons, etc. Etc.


As we look forward to Destiny 2, I just wanted to poke in here and say thanks RML.

your efforts really made a difference in my ability to enjoy and excel in Destiny 1, and I truly appreciate all the time you take to share your experiments and knowledge.

If you're ever in the Hudson Valley NY I'd love to buy you a beer my friend.

cheers, and thanks again Guardian.

Appreciate the kind words and I'm glad it helped. I'm actually moving to Virginia within the next couple of years (wife really loves it there). We plan on traveling up and down the east coast, so who knows, maybe I'll take you up on that offer someday. Turning down a free beer is ludicrous,  especially with a fellow Ximmer.

Cheers!   :)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/22/17)
Post by: Magnetos hate on 07:51 PM - 08/28/17
So I have been thinking as we move towards destiny 2s release in the next week and a half about how much fun I'll have ripping destiny with a Xim from the beginning of the experience this time around. Of course, me thinking leads to questioning things...

In every other game I play I don't use any ballistic curves. The general thought is that you can't build muscle memory up with a ballistic curve. I play overwatch with a straight St. Battlefields, call of duty, halo, rainbow six, Titanfall, etc.. no curves.

I use a curve for destiny as well as the typical sprinting profiles and Sparrow profiles similar to RMLs here. The general thought from the get-go was you can't play destiny without curves due to all the aim limitations implemented...

Does anyone not use curves? Is it even viable with the games mechanics? I'd love to play D2 and have some muscle memory after a few weeks/months ... Do any of you do this?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/22/17)
Post by: RML on 09:50 AM - 08/29/17
Based off the beta, I believe it will be possible to use linear with hip. I will still be using a curve for ADS though, purely due to Aim Assist.

You discussed building muscle memory, etc. IMO, this is only important for HIP because HIP doesn't have the massive slow down effects like ADS does for Aim Assist. You can only build muscle memory to something that can be repeated on a consistent basis. I would argue that AA when combined with net code, lag, etc. pretty much destroys linear movement and therefore doesn't apply to ADS aiming. For me, all that matters is how my ADS aim feels and respond's, when engaging AA at different ranges, speeds, etc.

Many have said (including Admin) that curves eliminate linear movement, and I don't disagree, it is true! However AA also eliminates linear movement, or I should say "consistent movement" by drastically slowing your movement when your cross hairs are close to a target. So I ask, when Aiming down the sights. What really feels closer to linear or "consistant movevment" while engaging a target? No curve that slows drastically near target, or a curve that helps maintain velocity when hitting the AA bubble?

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/22/17)
Post by: Magnetos hate on 05:07 PM - 08/29/17
Based off the beta, I believe it will be possible to use linear with hip. I will still be using a curve for ADS though, purely due to Aim Assist.

You discussed building muscle memory, etc. IMO, this is only important for HIP because HIP doesn't have the massive slow down effects like ADS does for Aim Assist. You can only build muscle memory to something that can be repeated on a consistent basis. I would argue that AA when combined with net code, lag, etc. pretty much destroys linear movement and therefore doesn't apply to ADS aiming. For me, all that matters is how my ADS aim feels and respond's, when engaging AA at different ranges, speeds, etc.

Many have said (including Admin) that curves eliminate linear movement, and I don't disagree, it is true! However AA also eliminates linear movement, or I should say "consistent movement" by drastically slowing your movement when your cross hairs are close to a target. So I ask, when Aiming down the sights. What really feels closer to linear or "consistant movevment" while engaging a target? No curve that slows drastically near target, or a curve that helps maintain velocity when hitting the AA bubble?

I see your point. Thanks RML
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/22/17)
Post by: MaraSov on 09:32 AM - 09/01/17
Hello people my XIM4 is coming, since im going to play thousands of hours of Destiny 2, i want to improve my performance using m/kb whit it.

I have read many threads on this forum, and for what i can understand, this Destiny setup was made to counter AA right?
Isnt that the opposite of what we are supposed to do? Use m/kb while still having AA to help line those precious headshots in the crucible, no?

Is too much AA a bad experience when using xim?

Im good whit a controller (1.7k/d) and good whit a mouse. Im going to play on both ps4 and pc, and id like to have a decent "mouse experience" on ps4, while still having a decent amount of AA.

Also, ive read some threads where you guys talk about dpi. Someone states that i shoud set my g502 at 12000dpi, some (like OP) at around 3-4000dpi,  other states that 2000 is the sweet spot.

Offcourse im going to try verious dpi, but which one is it? What dpi can provide a decent mouse feeling + retain a good AA?

And what about ingame setting? Max look sensibility all the time?

I will receive my XIM monday and i have only 2 days to set it up before D2 launches (going to use D1 for that).

I know everyone is different and everyone has preferences, but if you guys can point me in the right direction, i will then have a starting point.

What i need is:

decent mouse feeling

retain a good amount of AA
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/22/17)
Post by: bastyen on 11:09 AM - 09/01/17
Hello RML !
What is Kpad3 for you ?
Regards
S
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/22/17)
Post by: RML on 03:46 PM - 09/01/17
1st of all just want to say "HOLY COW!" This thread has surpassed the 500k mark. Really glad to see it has helped so many other Xim users out there (one way or the other).  :)

CHEERS!!





Is too much AA a bad experience when using xim?

And what about ingame setting? Max look sensibility all the time?



- Depends on who you ask. IMO, too much AA is a bad,bad thing. It's about finding a good middle ground.
- In game settings should always be maxed. That's the way the ST is created.



Hello RML !
What is Kpad3 for you ?
Regards
S

Kpad3 is the mouse auxiliary button on the G502 just to the left of the LC button. I can't remember what I actually use it for with Destiny though. Haven't played in a while. I think it was for Melee, throwing knives, etc. 


Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/22/17)
Post by: Kraghus on 07:55 AM - 09/02/17
New XIM4 user here; New to the boards.

I purchased the XIM4 just for Destiny 2 after playing the PC BETA (amazing) and realizing that I have a lot more friends who play on console. I've been playing strictly PC for so long that I'm afraid to see what my skill with the sticks has become.

Anyway, after tinkering a while on my own, I came across this thread. I wanted to thank you, LMR, for your dedication, and say that I look forward to working with the XIM community inside of your Destiny 2 thread.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/22/17)
Post by: Himmelskaberget on 09:08 AM - 09/02/17
New Xim4 user here as well like Kraghus above me. Likewise to the boards.

I figured to try and tinker some with the Xim4, came to a decent initial setting but compared to my older (and well-tinkered) T***t V***m (not sure if allowed to name, so just.. hinted) the settings currently are bad.
Figured instead to apply and use parts of your Advanced Settings for Destiny 1.

Issues arises as soon as I try to apply/paste your code/settings. I watched your "Copypastewholesetup"-video from YT.
When I press the Paste-button in the Xim4 Manager I get a red "warning triangle" instead of the green "Check", and obviously no data is being pasted.
I've used both manual Copy as well as "Select"-Copy as you suggest.

Wanted to try and figure out why this issue comes up for me, when I follow your video/walkthrough now, before D2 is released.
Will manually change and trim the settings once in-game through BT of course - and when D2 comes a new Config should come out (I hope from Xim?) and with that new advanced and personal settings will come.

Thank you very much for this input and help to the community RML.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/22/17)
Post by: RML on 09:35 AM - 09/02/17
Welcome to the community, both of you!  :)

Make sure you're running the latest firmware, that should fix your copy/paste issues.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/22/17)
Post by: Himmelskaberget on 11:17 AM - 09/02/17
Welcome to the community, both of you!  :)

Make sure you're running the latest firmware, that should fix your copy/paste issues.

Thank you kindly.

I downloaded and followed the routine written out here (http://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=47393.0) on the site.
Can I somehow check to verify the installed firmware? Yes that is how new and unskilled of this program I am - sorry!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/22/17)
Post by: Kraghus on 09:10 AM - 09/03/17

Issues arises as soon as I try to apply/paste your code/settings. I watched your "Copypastewholesetup"-video from YT.
When I press the Paste-button in the Xim4 Manager I get a red "warning triangle" instead of the green "Check", and obviously no data is being pasted.
I've used both manual Copy as well as "Select"-Copy as you suggest.

Himmelskaberget, make sure you are only copying the required text. If you copy more than you need, you will get the warning triangle. For example, in RML's original post, pressing the [select] button for an automated copy of the Hip curve will copy this:

>>> XIM4 [Mouse Ballistics] START PASTE >>>
X4MB:AAAAGgA0AC4AMAAwAC4AMgAwADEANgAwADQAMAA1AA0aJzRBTlxreoyescjIyMjIyMjI:X4MB
<<< XIM4 END PASTE <<<

You really only want to be copying the middle line: X4MB:AAAAGgA0AC4AMAAwAC4AMgAwADEANgAwADQAMAA1AA0aJzRBTlxreoyescjIyMjIyMjI:X4MB
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/22/17)
Post by: RML on 07:47 AM - 09/04/17
^ That may depend on what device you're using to copy/paste, not sure. I've always just used the code select tab and copy/paste everything highlighted.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/22/17)
Post by: AJ989 on 09:11 AM - 09/05/17
hello! first of all thank you very much for the dedication in creating such a beautiful setup!!

I'm playing with the g502 and the nav like you do!

I copied everything in the xim manager, just can't understand what I need to put in the Sparrow and Sprint config besides the copy paste (that takes care of the curve I guess), because how those 2 profiles are activated? Shouldnt I put something in activation? because now in both of them is blank the activation setting! 

and last thing, can you explain me this:

hanks to the NEW "Config Deactivation" keys that OBsIV created for ADS toggle, we can now easily dismount the Sparrow and deactivate the Sparrow config, without help from LGS. All you need to do is assign a deactivation key, then assign the same key to the reload button under secondary button bindings.

I dont wanna use LGS macro so this should be for me, I just don't understand what do you mean by : to the reload button under secondary button bindings.
secondary bindings for which profile? Can you make me an example if let s say, my reload button is the X button on the nav?

thank you very much
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/22/17)
Post by: RML on 11:36 AM - 09/05/17
You need to assign an activation key to each sub config. I will add a full config copy/paste to the thread tonight.

To deactivate sparrow - just add X to the deactivation keys in the sparrow config. Then pressing X will get you off the sparrow and deactivate the config (putting you on foot and in HIP config).

Macros are GREAT with Destiny! I would highly recommend learning how to use them effectively with your mouse. The G502 is really easy to set up macros once you get used to it and it has 3 profiles that can each have their own settings, which is really nice.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/22/17)
Post by: Ceejzor on 04:05 PM - 09/05/17
RML, would ya say this is the best profile to go with until the ST comes out?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/22/17)
Post by: RML on 04:29 PM - 09/05/17
Hard to say until I play the game, it was pretty much my setup for the beta though. But I've seen things change between beta and release look mechanics before.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/22/17)
Post by: thott on 01:26 PM - 09/06/17
Hi RML,

I checked your setup and video but want to ask you regarding:

Quote
Thanks to the NEW "Config Deactivation" keys that OBsIV created for ADS toggle, we can now easily dismount the Sparrow and deactivate the Sparrow config, without help from LGS. All you need to do is assign a deactivation key, then assign the same key to the reload button under secondary button bindings.

Does this mean that I set Sparrow activation key to (R)-button which is reload for me and deactivation key to (R) also in the Sparrow subconfig?
And then setting (R) button in the HIP Primary / Secondary config?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/22/17)
Post by: magmia on 07:43 PM - 09/06/17
Could anyone paste a working config for D2? im pretty new and RML doesnt seem to have his in the op anymore, would much appreciate it thanks <3
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/22/17)
Post by: Ceejzor on 08:02 PM - 09/06/17
Hi RML,

I checked your setup and video but want to ask you regarding:

Quote
Thanks to the NEW "Config Deactivation" keys that OBsIV created for ADS toggle, we can now easily dismount the Sparrow and deactivate the Sparrow config, without help from LGS. All you need to do is assign a deactivation key, then assign the same key to the reload button under secondary button bindings.

Does this mean that I set Sparrow activation key to (R)-button which is reload for me and deactivation key to (R) also in the Sparrow subconfig?
And then setting (R) button in the HIP Primary / Secondary config?

followed the guide to a T, until I got to this point and it confused me? could ya clarify for us noobs RML? :D
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/22/17)
Post by: RML on 09:35 PM - 09/06/17
Sry guys, been really busy last few days haven't had much fun time. In regards to the questions about Sparrow.

I prefer using a macro for Sparrow so that you can Summon, Mount and activate the config with a single button press. But, you don't have to. You can use any button you chose to activate the Sparrow config. However you'll have to Summon, Mount and then activate your Sparrow config while on the Sparrow. Also, make sure you check the Toggle box for your Sparrow config so that you don't have to hold down the activation key while riding it.

As far a dismounting the Sparrow goes, it's really simple guys. Pressing the reload button while on the Sparrow will cause a dismount. So all you have to do is add the reload button to your deactivation keys within the Sparrow config. This will then cause you to dismount and simultaneously deactivate the Sparrow config putting you back in Hip.

You DONOT want to use any other button to dismount the Sparrow unless you also add that button to the deactivation keys. Otherwise you will dismount and still be using the Sparrow config while on foot.

The only buttons that will cause a dismount is Reload and Jump. I prefer to use reload so that I'm not jumping off the Sparrow. So I also change my button layout and remove jump from the Sparrow config so that I can't accidently push it and dismount without deactivating the Sparrow config. I use RC on the mouse to Jump because I'm a NAV user. So for Sparrow instead of assigning A (jump) to RC, I assign Turn Assist to RC which makes riding the Sparrow even easier and more enjoyable IMO.

I've added a Full config Copy/Paste code to the OP. So you can now easily paste my whole setup and modify the button layouts to your liking.

Cheers!   :)

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 7/22/17)
Post by: loo1201 on 09:52 PM - 09/06/17
Sry guys, been really busy last few days haven't had much fun time. In regards to the questions about Sparrow.

I prefer using a macro for Sparrow so that you can Summon, Mount and activate the config with a single button press. But, you don't have to. You can use any button you chose to activate the Sparrow config. However you'll have to Summon, Mount and then activate your Sparrow config while on the Sparrow. Also, make sure you check the Toggle box for your Sparrow config so that you don't have to hold down the activation key while riding it.

As far a dismounting the Sparrow goes, it's really simple guys. Pressing the reload button while on the Sparrow will cause a dismount. So all you have to do is add the reload button to your deactivation keys within the Sparrow config. This will then cause you to dismount and simultaneously deactivate the Sparrow config putting you back in Hip.

You DONOT want to use any other button to dismount the Sparrow unless you also add that button to the deactivation keys. Otherwise you will dismount and still be using the Sparrow config while on foot.

The only buttons that will cause a dismount is Reload and Jump. I prefer to use reload so that I'm not jumping off the Sparrow. So I also change my button layout and remove jump from the Sparrow config so that I can't accidently push it and dismount without deactivating the Sparrow config. I use RC on the mouse to Jump because I'm a NAV user. So for Sparrow instead of assigning A (jump) to RC, I assign Turn Assist to RC which makes riding the Sparrow even easier and more enjoyable IMO.

I've added a Full config Copy/Paste code to the OP. So you can now easily paste my whole setup and modify the button layouts to your liking.

Cheers!   :)

hey! im sorry but this entire post is EXTREMELY confusing. What am i supposed to paste in my cfg? Just the first curve? Or like make a profile for every single curves (sparrow, sprint etc..)?

I want to play D2 with the xim4 but it seems very hard and confusing
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: RML on 10:04 PM - 09/06/17
Advanced Settings can be confusing until you get used to playing around with it. I would suggest you make Two Destiny configs. The one you have now and then create a brand new one from the games library. Then take my whole setup code and paste it into your new Destiny config. This will give you everything I'm currently using, all curves, sub configs, button layouts, etc. Then just rummage through my setup and reassign buttons to your liking.

For info on how to copy/paste an entire setup. Click on the link in my signature to Advanced Settings. Then find the video that walks you through it.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: RML on 10:06 PM - 09/06/17
Btw... not everyone enjoys using Advanced Settings. You can play without them and just crank up your sensitivities. It's not as enjoyable IMO, but it can be done. 
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: loo1201 on 10:13 PM - 09/06/17
Btw... not everyone enjoys using Advanced Settings. You can play without them and just crank up your sensitivities. It's not as enjoyable IMO, but it can be done.

So do i just copy/paste the first code you posted? Do i need to make ads, sparrow profiles?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: Deni on 12:11 AM - 09/07/17
Btw... not everyone enjoys using Advanced Settings. You can play without them and just crank up your sensitivities. It's not as enjoyable IMO, but it can be done.

So do i just copy/paste the first code you posted? Do i need to make ads, sparrow profiles?

Used his setup last night and enjoyed it. Not perfect but way more than enough until an official one comes out, in case that one is better.

You should create a new profile and then add the Hip, ADS and Sprint configurations. Definitely all needed.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: thott on 12:53 AM - 09/07/17
Thanks for the Sparrow info RML.
I tried your setup last night and most of the things feel nice except for the Sprint turn speed, I can't seem to find a comfortable setting.

When I hold down Sprint (LShift) the sensitivity increases a lot and the movement feels great at this time but when I return to HIP the sensitivity decreases a lot which makes it difficult to aim properly.
Haven't found any nice balance to make the Sprint > HIP transition smoother :(
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: magmia on 02:13 AM - 09/07/17
Ty so much :)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: magmia on 02:15 AM - 09/07/17
Thanks for the Sparrow info RML.
I tried your setup last night and most of the things feel nice except for the Sprint turn speed, I can't seem to find a comfortable setting.

When I hold down Sprint (LShift) the sensitivity increases a lot and the movement feels great at this time but when I return to HIP the sensitivity decreases a lot which makes it difficult to aim properly.
Haven't found any nice balance to make the Sprint > HIP transition smoother :(
if you find a nice balance let me know, i've been having similar troubles striking a good balance, so i've taken to just not sprinting in situations ill need to turn heavily
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: RML on 06:48 AM - 09/07/17
Thanks for the Sparrow info RML.
I tried your setup last night and most of the things feel nice except for the Sprint turn speed, I can't seem to find a comfortable setting.

When I hold down Sprint (LShift) the sensitivity increases a lot and the movement feels great at this time but when I return to HIP the sensitivity decreases a lot which makes it difficult to aim properly.
Haven't found any nice balance to make the Sprint > HIP transition smoother :(
if you find a nice balance let me know, i've been having similar troubles striking a good balance, so i've taken to just not sprinting in situations ill need to turn heavily

It takes time to get used to. Keep fine tuning your HIP sens as best you can to meet your needs. Of course the Turn speed cap isn't the greatest, but it's do able.

Also, make sure you have 200ms delay for sprint. It helps with the transition to Sprint, less jitter.

I will be working on a new setup over the weekend. I haven't even played D2 yet.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: Belloci on 07:11 AM - 09/07/17
Hey guys. I really want to use this config but when i paste it and want to look the config i do not know what keys are in use. What are the keys e.g. j9 (green)? Is that joystick?

Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: RML on 08:00 AM - 09/07/17
Hey guys. I really want to use this config but when i paste it and want to look the config i do not know what keys are in use. What are the keys e.g. j9 (green)? Is that joystick?

Yes, anything with a J = Joystick. I use the Sony Navigational controller (analog movement) instead of a KB.

BTW .. Welcome to the community!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: Belloci on 09:29 AM - 09/07/17
Thx RML!

now I made my config with my own keys. What can I do against being really slow while sprinting? I know u have a sub config and I know how to activate but when I sprint its still really slow...

The other thing: revive! Do I have to create a macro? cause i can not move while reviving ;-)

Thank you!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: loo1201 on 10:42 AM - 09/07/17
Btw... not everyone enjoys using Advanced Settings. You can play without them and just crank up your sensitivities. It's not as enjoyable IMO, but it can be done.

So do i just copy/paste the first code you posted? Do i need to make ads, sparrow profiles?

Used his setup last night and enjoyed it. Not perfect but way more than enough until an official one comes out, in case that one is better.

You should create a new profile and then add the Hip, ADS and Sprint configurations. Definitely all needed.

Okay but what about toggle keys for those profiles?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: Torderro on 11:39 AM - 09/07/17
Dude.. I never played destiny, and I managed to get a few kills/wins in the crucible with this advanced setup. It copy and pasted beautifully and I only had to bind my own buttons.
I honestly can't see how a D2 official st is needed lol D1 works perfectly.



Turn speeds is obviously slow, but if you can get used to it, you can add turn assist to any key you comfortable with.. Then it's REALLY FAST. but it's very hard to get used to something so weird.

While holding down the sprint button, it might be easier to bind the RIGHT STICK to certain keys, or left mouse click and right mouse click..because that turn assist gets really confusing, I think it might be easier if we had buttons to turn left and right.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: l Kill3rZ l on 10:23 PM - 09/07/17
Does this happen to anyone? In D2 wgenever i try to dismantle a weapon it keeps cancelling when i hold down the square button to dismantle (i have square binded to r)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: saint72 on 12:52 AM - 09/08/17
Does this happen to anyone? In D2 wgenever i try to dismantle a weapon it keeps cancelling when i hold down the square button to dismantle (i have square binded to r)

Yeh strangely.. never did it on D1 for me..
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: domontaco on 01:36 AM - 09/08/17
Does this happen to anyone? In D2 wgenever i try to dismantle a weapon it keeps cancelling when i hold down the square button to dismantle (i have square binded to r)

Not just you, was wondering if there was something wrong with my G502.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: Trshy on 02:34 AM - 09/08/17
i think that has to do with the mouse movement, because the mouse moves and the cursor moves that's why it cancels the dismantle, try to not move your mouse while dismantling. it happened to me a lot until i figured it out.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: pulpbiggles on 04:36 AM - 09/08/17
i think that has to do with the mouse movement, because the mouse moves and the cursor moves that's why it cancels the dismantle, try to not move your mouse while dismantling. it happened to me a lot until i figured it out.

Interesting I'll give this whirl - I'll make sure to take my hand off the mouse next time I try to dismantle something. Loving D2 so far, but then I really liked D1 so probably no surprises. Looking forward to seeing what magic Mist can weave with the ST.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: cheesebeater on 08:07 AM - 09/08/17

Interesting I'll give this whirl - I'll make sure to take my hand off the mouse next time I try to dismantle something. Loving D2 so far, but then I really liked D1 so probably no surprises. Looking forward to seeing what magic Mist can weave with the ST.

yeah, i always lift my mouse now when i dismantle..
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: l Kill3rZ l on 11:30 AM - 09/08/17
Also another problem i have is when i try to preview shaders it take a couple of clicks on the triangle button bind for it to preview :(
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: l Kill3rZ l on 12:14 AM - 09/09/17
Destiny 2 ST is out!! post your settings
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: saint72 on 12:46 AM - 09/09/17
@mist - was there many changes mate?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: MuRRe on 07:22 AM - 09/10/17
I don't understand :(

I first loaded in the one that creates the 4 profiles (HIP/ADS and so on).
But then when i try to load each individual profile it doesn't change anything?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: RML on 01:06 PM - 09/10/17
I don't understand :(

I first loaded in the one that creates the 4 profiles (HIP/ADS and so on).
But then when i try to load each individual profile it doesn't change anything?

Are you talking in game or in manager?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: MuRRe on 03:37 PM - 09/10/17
I don't understand :(

I first loaded in the one that creates the 4 profiles (HIP/ADS and so on).
But then when i try to load each individual profile it doesn't change anything?

Are you talking in game or in manager?

Im talking manager.

So I load the "Entire setup code: ", but the values are different from the ones that posted under that (where you posted 4 codes, one for each HIP/ADS...)

EDIT: Thanks for taking the time to answer.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: PureEgo03 on 04:58 PM - 09/10/17
These setups and curves have been amazing, thanks so much for all the info
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: RML on 04:59 PM - 09/10/17
I don't understand :(

I first loaded in the one that creates the 4 profiles (HIP/ADS and so on).
But then when i try to load each individual profile it doesn't change anything?

Are you talking in game or in manager?

Im talking manager.

So I load the "Entire setup code: ", but the values are different from the ones that posted under that (where you posted 4 codes, one for each HIP/ADS...)

EDIT: Thanks for taking the time to answer.


It sounds like your activation keys are wrong. I use a NAV instead of KB, so any KB users are going to have to change around a lot of buttons, including activation keys for all the profiles (Sub Configs).


These setups and curves have been amazing, thanks so much for all the info

Glad it helped you.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: axotl on 12:39 PM - 09/17/17
Hi there RML - I've been a long time user/modifier of your curves and settings.  I've come back from a long hiatus, and I swear I noticed you now do the opposite with your y/x ratios.  Didn't they used to be set to give more sensitivity to the y axis?  What prompted the change?  Or am I just mis-remembering?  I'd love to understand the benefit you're feeling from it too, as I'm struggling to really FEEL the difference I thought I did in the past when adjusting that setting.  Thanks!

Note - I am on most recent firmware and everything.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: RML on 01:47 PM - 09/17/17
Hi there RML - I've been a long time user/modifier of your curves and settings.  I've come back from a long hiatus, and I swear I noticed you now do the opposite with your y/x ratios.  Didn't they used to be set to give more sensitivity to the y axis?  What prompted the change?  Or am I just mis-remembering?  I'd love to understand the benefit you're feeling from it too, as I'm struggling to really FEEL the difference I thought I did in the past when adjusting that setting.  Thanks!

Note - I am on most recent firmware and everything.

Hey man, I've gone back and forth a few times. I like to inflate the Y axis a little to help with Weapon recoil. The flip side to that is it sometimes makes movement feel strange when jumping.

My current preferred setup is to inflate the X axis for HIP which seems to help control the weird sens issues when jumping. So I typically use a setting of .85 - .80 for HIP. For ADS I'm still torn but I'm leaning towards going the opposite way and inflating the Y axis to help with recoil. Problem is I do occasionally jump while in ADS and it does feel like sens goes slightly whacky sometimes. My ADS setting is typically between 1.1 and 1.2
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: akeezer on 08:39 AM - 09/21/17
G502 can go up to 12000 DPI. What are the advantages and disadvantages of running 12000 DPI vs the 4000 used in this ST?
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: RML on 07:04 PM - 09/22/17
G502 can go up to 12000 DPI. What are the advantages and disadvantages of running 12000 DPI vs the 4000 used in this ST?

It's all personal preference. Try both and see what works best for you.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: Lineater on 09:10 PM - 09/22/17
Wrong thread
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: akeezer on 11:51 AM - 09/25/17
Wrong thread

I am referring to the DPI and polling rate of RML's setup so this would be the right thread. I wanted to know if there was a specific advantage to specific DPI and polling #s or if its just personal preference.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: RML on 11:53 AM - 09/25/17
Wrong thread

I am referring to the DPI and polling rate of RML's setup so this would be the right thread. I wanted to know if there was a specific advantage to specific DPI and polling #s or if its just personal preference.

I believe he was talking about his own post, he since moved it to the D2 thread but posted that instead of deleting it lol. I've actually thought about deleting this thread. But I think there are still some Destiny 1 players out there.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: Kill-Joy on 06:22 AM - 10/02/17
Ok so I have had my xim4 since they came out and only used it like twice all very basic stuff I put in just so I could aim with mouse basically. I had no problem hitting the "select to win, then paste into manager" I even checked ur pics and video to make sure I have the G502 set up (I moved two things I think but still. where I'm having a problem is I clearly didn't do something right cuz when I get everything plugged in and try to test this nothing happens... infect  I can get nav joystick to move occasionally but not mouse, buttons don't work... its a mess haha I really tried sifting through the pages to make this work without asking but bro I'm just lost now, didn't get my flawless and been struggling with this for 3 days hahaha can't say how much I would love some [email protected]! Can even hop in discord or something so I can make sure I didn't totes mess up.
Also side note once I got everything plugged in and I launch the manager app I wanted to swap lets just say a few buttons around, but when I try it just says listening and won't register my input --
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: bastyen on 03:12 AM - 04/03/18
Hello RML,

I've just buy a XIM APEX and I see that you use one.
Could you tell me if you post a setup for Destiny 2 for the XIM APEX ?

Thanks by advence for your answer
S
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: RML on 06:03 AM - 04/03/18
I don't believe I have. I'll update my D2 setup thread when I get a chance.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: bastyen on 07:45 AM - 04/03/18
Ok ! Thank you very much !  :)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: thebside on 11:21 PM - 04/03/18
I am just curious RML if you are still using any curves for D2 hip and ads, and if not, what settings have you landed on?

Looking forward to your updated config.
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: marv4u on 09:18 AM - 04/05/18
well yes im also very interessted in your D2 settup because im absolutly not happy with mine right now. Aim Assist still holds me away from target and im also struggling between 4k and 12k dpi..
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: bastyen on 05:53 AM - 04/09/18
I don't believe I have. I'll update my D2 setup thread when I get a chance.


These are the same settings as for the XIM4 or you have changed ?
Very impatient to have your settings for destiny 2 on the xim apex  :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: Soul on 06:42 AM - 06/12/18
Hey all,

Original XIM1 user here, it's been a while since I've posted (6 years) big shout to the old school crew, Mist, Moose and Obs in particular :)

I started playing Destiny 2 on PC a while back and have recently bought a PS4 to play Destiny 1, I'm using a Xim Apex and have searched for updated ST's and found this thread, as per previous posts I'm struggling with turn speed and it feels a bit 'muddy'

Is there a Xim 4 to Xim Apex converter so I can use these or can anyone recommend a config for me to try?

Thanks!

Soul
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: RML on 06:58 AM - 06/12/18
Wow... it's the thread that keeps on giving. You know I'm actually glad you brought this thread out of the grave (thanks for searching). I've been thinking of playing some Destiny one as of late (you in Remix?).

Anyways, I've transferred most of these curves over to Destiny 2 and APEX, you can find those curves here - https://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=56658.msg626940#msg626940

These are the best curves for Destiny 1 & 2. Just find the ones that work best for you. I haven't updated Destiny 1 in a long time... so the curves are dated.

Maybe I'll updated it just because. Thread does deserve some love. Brings back alot of memories and I think alot of people learned alot about XIM from this thread (including myself). After all it's one of the most viewed threads like EVER on the forum!

Cheers!
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: Soul on 09:51 AM - 06/12/18
Hey,

Thanks for the quick reply, will try these out! :)

Your welcome, always better to search first. I take it Remix is a clan? If so nope, not in it, as I've already got a D2 PC clan (SoulSeekers) and have just started the same clan in D1 (However only have a few members in atm as most don't have a PS4)

Yeah great thread, as I was XIM1/XIM2 a lot of things have changed so have been trying to 'update myself' info wise.

Thanks again!  ;)

Soul
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: RML on 02:39 PM - 06/12/18
I take it Remix is a clan?

Negative - The Known Outlaws is a clan/club (on Xbox).

This is R3MIX - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LHmo0yV-DBM
Title: Re: Destiny: My Advanced Setup (Updated 8/06/17)
Post by: Soul on 10:21 AM - 06/13/18
Ahhh ok thanks! I was into making videos back in tha day, came 2nd in the XIM Top Shot contest with this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_5cBmdocac (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_5cBmdocac) (First time I earned money from gaming xD)

There's quite a few more on my old chan if you wanna check some out, hope to start making some again if I can find the time  :)

Cheers,

Soul