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XIM 4 => Hardware Compatibility => Topic started by: damstr on 12:45 PM - 10/12/14

Title: Corsair K65 RGB
Post by: damstr on 12:45 PM - 10/12/14
Anyone know if this works? I just picked it up to replace my Razer Widow Maker Ultimate.
Title: Re: Corsair K65 RGB
Post by: Aiken_Drum on 12:57 PM - 10/12/14
We've had bad reports on both the M65 RGB and the K65 RGB (mouse and keyboard).  If you mean to use it with XIM4 only, I suggest you don't open it and take it back.

Something they're doing with the RGB models is deviating from the mouse/keyboard standard behavior.
Title: Re: Corsair K65 RGB
Post by: damstr on 02:47 PM - 10/12/14
Well it has a bios selector on it does that make a difference?  Already opened it and love it. Dammit just can't win!

One thing I don't understand is why it has 2 USB male cables. There are no USB inputs on the keyboard so it doesn't make sense to me.
Title: Re: Corsair K65 RGB
Post by: Aiken_Drum on 06:04 PM - 10/12/14
It could be that the lighting takes more power than you might expect, so it needs a second port for the extra power.

If it has a BIOS selector switch, I'm surprised one setting or the other doesn't work.  You've tried both?
Title: Re: Corsair K65 RGB
Post by: damstr on 06:06 PM - 10/12/14
It could be that the lighting takes more power than you might expect, so it needs a second port for the extra power.

If it has a BIOS selector switch, I'm surprised one setting or the other doesn't work.  You've tried both?
You mean tried both with the XIM4? I don't have a XIM yet. Ordering end of this month. So far I've just left it on the "1" setting. It has 4 + a BIOS mode.
Title: Re: Corsair K65 RGB
Post by: Aiken_Drum on 07:04 PM - 10/12/14
Ah!  I see.  I didn't realize that.  Okay, well, if it has a dedicated switch for putting it in BIOS mode, then I'd be a little more optimistic that it will work with XIM4.

However, there's still the matter of the extra USB plug.  If it needs that, you'll obviously run out of ports.  I'd say... hmm... yeah, I'd say try it with one or the other of the plugs first.  If it's a no-go either way, maybe plug a USB hub with enough ports (presumably at least 4) into the XIM4, and plug all of your devices into that, rather than into the XIM4. 
Title: Re: Corsair K65 RGB
Post by: damstr on 07:29 PM - 10/12/14
Well I plan on plugging the extra one into my PC (while it's on) and the one that handles data into the USB switch that'll go to the XIM. I'll report back on how it goes. Would hate to return this keyboard it's really nice.
Title: Re: Corsair K65 RGB
Post by: damstr on 10:32 AM - 10/13/14
Can you use the keyboard in Windows while in BIOS mode? I'm not home to try it just curious what the difference is.
Title: Re: Corsair K65 RGB
Post by: SlappyTang on 07:57 AM - 10/15/14
I would recommend the M45 from Corsair. It does not have the cool sniper button or the fancy lights, but it works great and it's a lot cheaper.
Title: Re: Corsair K65 RGB
Post by: damstr on 08:49 AM - 10/15/14
Just going to return the K65. Elite member at best buy so they never give me issues haha picking up the black widow chroma.
Title: Re: Corsair K65 RGB
Post by: krnlpud on 01:29 AM - 10/17/14
You should at least try it out just to see if it works, because then it can be added to the compatibility list if it works or not, ive had my eyes on this keyboard as well, I have the m65 and the XIM4 just waiting to pick up a keyboard tomorrow, if this does not work, then im going with the razer chroma knowing that it works.
Title: Re: Corsair K65 RGB
Post by: damstr on 06:38 AM - 10/17/14
I already returned it. It was a buggy and weird keyboard. Sometimes the backlight wouldn't come on till after I was in Windows which tells me if it works weird in Windows with the software installed its pros not not going to work well on the XIM 4.

Also there is a BIOS switch on the back and if I needed to switch to that every time I wanted to use it on the XIM it would just be a PITA not to mention its all going through a KVM switch. I'll just stick to what I know works.

Something I am excited about is the upcoming Ducky Shine Mini. There is no software that goes with it and it can literally work on any OS so there is no doubt in my mind that it would work fine with the XIM.
Title: Re: Corsair K65 RGB
Post by: jackel1060 on 07:16 PM - 10/17/14
I just tried the Corsair K65 RGB, and it definitely has a lot of issues working with XIM4.  A few notes of what I found:

- It requires 2 USB plugs to be plugged in. I'm guessing this is because it draws more power than the standard USB 2.0 port supplies.  Thus, it must be used with a powered USB hub.
- It seems to require a PC to configure the lighting.  Its default lighting mode was all red keys, except the WASD and arrow keys which are white.  The only thing I can adjust on the keyboard itself is brightness level. I'm guessing that it will remember the custom lighting configuration that you set with the PC software, but didn't get around to trying this out.
- After plugging the K65 RGB into a Pluggable powered USB 2.0 hub, and then plugged the hub into the XIM4, it actually worked!  But after a few minutes of playing, it suddenly locked up and the XIM4 manager showed that the "S" key was being constantly pressed. I hot plugged the keyboard and power cycled the XIM4, and no change (the "S" key remained locked).

At that point, I gave up and plugged the CM Storm Rapidfire-i (which works very reliably with XIM4), and merrily won the Destiny Control match that I had started.

My take: this is a very high bling bling keyboard that is so sophisticated that it requires a PC to make full use of its numerous features. Definitely not something I would recommend for XIM4 players.
Title: Re: Corsair K65 RGB
Post by: krnlpud on 07:24 PM - 10/17/14
I just tried the Corsair K65 RGB, and it definitely has a lot of issues working with XIM4.  A few notes of what I found:

- It requires 2 USB plugs to be plugged in. I'm guessing this is because it draws more power than the standard USB 2.0 port supplies.  Thus, it must be used with a powered USB hub.
- It seems to require a PC to configure the lighting.  Its default lighting mode was all red keys, except the WASD and arrow keys which are white.  The only thing I can adjust on the keyboard itself is brightness level. I'm guessing that it will remember the custom lighting configuration that you set with the PC software, but didn't get around to trying this out.
- After plugging the K65 RGB into a Pluggable powered USB 2.0 hub, and then plugged the hub into the XIM4, it actually worked!  But after a few minutes of playing, it suddenly locked up and the XIM4 manager showed that the "S" key was being constantly pressed. I hot plugged the keyboard and power cycled the XIM4, and no change (the "S" key remained locked).

At that point, I gave up and plugged the CM Storm Rapidfire-i (which works very reliably with XIM4), and merrily won the Destiny Control match that I had started.

My take: this is a very high bling bling keyboard that is so sophisticated that it requires a PC to make full use of its numerous features. Definitely not something I would recommend for XIM4 players.
awesome thanks man for clearing that up, i have been on the wall between the corsair k65 and the razer chrona, so now i know to stay away from the corsair until the bugs get worked out.
Title: Re: Corsair K65 RGB
Post by: Aiken_Drum on 09:46 PM - 10/17/14
after a few minutes of playing, it suddenly locked up and the XIM4 manager showed that the "S" key was being constantly pressed.

Which firmware are you on?  If you aren't already on 20141006, please try again after installing it (and the corresponding manager) from XIM4 Downloads Release Candidates and let us know if the stuck key still occurs.  Stuck keys are something the current build fixes for some hardware that was exhibiting the problem.
Title: Re: Corsair K65 RGB
Post by: jackel1060 on 09:52 PM - 10/17/14
after a few minutes of playing, it suddenly locked up and the XIM4 manager showed that the "S" key was being constantly pressed.

Which firmware are you on?  If you aren't already on 20141006, please try again after installing it (and the corresponding manager) from XIM4 Downloads Release Candidates and let us know if the stuck key still occurs.  Stuck keys are something the current build fixes for some hardware that was exhibiting the problem.


Yes, I am indeed running 20141006.  I can give it another try (I haven't returned the Corsair K65 RGB yet) if you'd like to confirm that this reproduces still.  Just let me know, and glad to provide any more testing data.
Title: Re: Corsair K65 RGB
Post by: damstr on 05:51 AM - 10/18/14
I would try updating the firmware on the K65 if you haven't already. Also have you tried it in BIOS mode using the switch on the keyboard?
Title: Re: Corsair K65 RGB
Post by: jackel1060 on 12:28 PM - 10/18/14
I would try updating the firmware on the K65 if you haven't already. Also have you tried it in BIOS mode using the switch on the keyboard?

Just did the firmware update, installed the Corsair software on my PC, went through the 143 page user manual, and setup my own simple color scheme.  This keyboard is still a nightmare when trying to get it to work with XIM4.  Like other Corsair keyboards, it will only work in BIOS mode with the XIM.  Unfortunately, this means that you can only use the default lighting setup (which is red for all keys, and pulsing white for WASD and arrows).  The custom lighting setups can only be accessed if you use the non-BIOS mode.

It is just way too hard to get it to work with the XIM4.  Sometimes, the keyboard would not be detected at all by the XIM4, and I would have to attempt several permutations of unplugging and replugging the keyboard's 2 USB plugs and the XIM4 to get it to work. Regarding the 2 USB plugs, the manual says that you only have to plug in one if using a PC with USB 3.0 connectors.  But if using a PC with USB 2.0 connectors, you have to plug in one specific USB plug first, so that kind of sensitivity about plug order says something about its complex design.

It's an amazing keyboard if you're only going to be using it with a PC and can be running the Corsair software. But its incredible programmability makes it way buggy when being used in non-PC scenarios.
Title: Re: Corsair K65 RGB
Post by: damstr on 01:13 PM - 10/18/14
Yep I know it was going to be a PITA when using with the XIM that's why I returned it and got the WidowMaker Chroma. Not sure what the hell Corsair is doing that it requires it to have a BIOS switch on it but it's stupid.
Title: Re: Corsair K65 RGB
Post by: Aiken_Drum on 03:03 PM - 10/18/14
Sorry to hear it, guys.  I put the K65 RGB on the working list, since it does technically work, but I've added a note to the Requires BIOS Mode tag that says some features, such as custom lighting, may be disabled in the process.  This way people know it CAN work if they need it in a pinch, but if they want custom backlighting, they're not gonna have a good time.  I also noted the connection+power requirements.

It's really an unfortunate coincidence of two companies' good intentions (ours to provide you a tiny standalone box to adapt your peripherals, and theirs to provide you with bells and whistles on a Windows PC) not intersecting well.  I don't think they're bad for doing things the way they do, since using their stuff in the right context works well.  It's just unfortunate.
Title: Re: Corsair K65 RGB
Post by: Makave22 on 02:23 PM - 10/26/14
@#$% I was hoping to get this to work, It works well in Bios Mode, but I can't make the lights stay solid, whenever I hit a key the lights fade away and then it lights up bright again.
Title: Re: Corsair K65 RGB
Post by: damstr on 06:58 PM - 10/26/14
@#$% I was hoping to get this to work, It works well in Bios Mode, but I can't make the lights stay solid, whenever I hit a key the lights fade away and then it lights up bright again.
I noticed that when it was in BIOS mode IN Windows it was acting really weird. That's how I knew that even if it did work in BIOS mode with the XIM4 it was going to look weird. I really liked the keyboard but Corsair is doing some truly stupid stuff with their keyboards and mice.
Title: Re: Corsair K65 RGB
Post by: jackel1060 on 10:41 AM - 10/27/14
@#$% I was hoping to get this to work, It works well in Bios Mode, but I can't make the lights stay solid, whenever I hit a key the lights fade away and then it lights up bright again.

Yep, I saw similar behavior where the full keyboard's backlighting would flash on and off each time I press a key, which turns the backlit keys into a very annoying visual.