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Title: Building a new Home Theater setup from the ground up. Need suggestions.
Post by: TheycallmeDee on 05:38 PM - 07/06/14
I'm compiling a list of items to buy for a complete home theater setup and would love to hear from you guys for some reference. I have been out of the tech loop for a while because of work and just busy life in general but my wife and i just moved into a new home and I'm ready to get busy on making my new home awesome.

If you guys could throw some suggestions out for TVs and audio setups, I would appreciate it.

Thought about investing in a 4k TV, but will probably hold out until 4k is more relevant. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Building a new Home Theater setup from the ground up. Need suggestions.
Post by: Joker76 on 06:35 PM - 07/06/14
Depends on your budget and tastes, how much are you looking to spend? Are you picky about the audio? Most home theater enthusiasts I know spend a lot more on their receivers/amps/etc. than their TVs but it really depends on what you're looking for.

I'm personally more of a videophile than audio. My last TV purchase was a Panasonic GT50 60-inch plasma in October 2012 for $2k. And my last audio setup was the Onkyo S5400 HTiB for about $400. I added Polk floor-standing speakers, sub, center and bookshelves later on for about another $500 and it's a very decent system.

I highly recommend a projector if you have the room for it. The BenQ 1070 is on sale at Amazon (and other places) for $699 right now. And you can make a screen for very cheap (or buy one for $150-$250 depending if you want it motorized).

Title: Re: Building a new Home Theater setup from the ground up. Need suggestions.
Post by: TheycallmeDee on 06:46 PM - 07/06/14
I'm willing to go 4-5k for this setup. I know people tend to spend much more.

I am by no means an audiohead but I do like to seek out quality from people who know what they are talking about and run any suggestions through my personal research and budget.

Thanks for the suggestions so far Joker. I will also consider the projector options.
Title: Re: Building a new Home Theater setup from the ground up. Need suggestions.
Post by: mindworm22 on 06:52 PM - 07/06/14
4-5 k total, or for TV?
Title: Re: Building a new Home Theater setup from the ground up. Need suggestions.
Post by: TheycallmeDee on 07:38 PM - 07/06/14
4-5k total. I'm just not quite sure yet where that will put me in terms of quality.
Title: Re: Building a new Home Theater setup from the ground up. Need suggestions.
Post by: Od1n on 08:56 PM - 07/06/14
my first advice is to have a word with your neighbours, it aint much joy to have the cops around whenever you turn on the audio system
maybe also check how thick the walls of your house are ;)
Title: Re: Building a new Home Theater setup from the ground up. Need suggestions.
Post by: xSundown on 09:11 PM - 07/06/14
Build your own speakers. Commercial bought ones are trash or overpriced. I built some $200 2-way bookshelves that sound incredible with a $20 mid woofer. Here are some designs/kits.

http://meniscusaudio.com/kits-c-133.html

An audio forum to look through or ask questions.
http://techtalk.parts-express.com/

As for the subwoofer, you pretty much just need a plate amp, custom enclosure, and the woofer it's self. The bigger, the better for lower frequencies :)
http://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-rss390hf-4-15-reference-hf-subwoofer-4-ohm--295-468

As fars as tv's. I really like Sony. Neutral colors, low input lag, fantastic black levels. I currently use a 32w650.
Title: Re: Building a new Home Theater setup from the ground up. Need suggestions.
Post by: roads on 10:26 PM - 07/06/14
Audio system build it yourself if you can. I built the Nelson speakers from http://www.lautsprechershop.de/index_hifi_en.htm?hifi/heimkino_en.htm and they sound two price ranges above their cost. I am sure there are even better now. A lot of big names build junk into their spearkers. Building them is also fun. You get a kit with the speakers and the stuff to solder only at a shop like Strassacker. I for sure will never buy a ready built speaker from the big manufacturers again. 
Title: Re: Building a new Home Theater setup from the ground up. Need suggestions.
Post by: ShadowIG on 10:31 PM - 07/06/14
deeeeeeeeeeeeee <3
Title: Re: Building a new Home Theater setup from the ground up. Need suggestions.
Post by: amak1 on 04:13 AM - 07/07/14
For great surround you realy have to worry about speaker placement more than everything else. Your subwoofer is omnidirectional so place it accordingly.

Your surround speakers should make sense in the way that theyre pointed at the listener.
Title: Re: Building a new Home Theater setup from the ground up. Need suggestions.
Post by: KodRaiN on 09:44 AM - 07/07/14
Klipsh speakers.  A bit pricey but mah gawd do they have great sound. 
Title: Re: Building a new Home Theater setup from the ground up. Need suggestions.
Post by: nataku_0 on 01:27 PM - 07/07/14
I'm not sure if 4-5k is enough....I mean you might as well go all out if you're doing something as snobby- i mean cool as a home theater.
Title: Re: Building a new Home Theater setup from the ground up. Need suggestions.
Post by: Dale on 01:35 PM - 07/07/14
If your on a budget, I saw this method of using palettes for the seating... pretty cool

(http://www.99pallets.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/pallet-home-theater-6.jpg)
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--gQM2TuQD--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/17iflulfszhqljpg.jpg)
(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/a6/92/b7/a692b712c46f678937d3afd67b9e1846.jpg)
Title: Re: Building a new Home Theater setup from the ground up. Need suggestions.
Post by: xSundown on 01:37 PM - 07/07/14
If your on a budget, I saw this method of using palettes for the seating... pretty cool

(http://www.99pallets.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/pallet-home-theater-6.jpg)
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--gQM2TuQD--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/17iflulfszhqljpg.jpg)
(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/a6/92/b7/a692b712c46f678937d3afd67b9e1846.jpg)

BRILLIANT
Title: Re: Building a new Home Theater setup from the ground up. Need suggestions.
Post by: roads on 01:40 PM - 07/07/14
Niiiice!
Title: Re: Building a new Home Theater setup from the ground up. Need suggestions.
Post by: Zombieguy on 02:36 PM - 07/07/14
I built my own screen out of drywall.

I placed my projector where it was going, threw it on the wall so I know what my maximum size is for my screen. It ended up being 7'x12'.

I built a sub wall on top of the existing wall. I built a 2x4 studded frame, used 3 sheets of drywall and began the taping. You should only have to tape 3 joints and where the screws are.

Once taped and sanded to perfection I was ready for paint. I used Behr Ultra pure white. Using a pro roller I put 2 coats of primer on. Each coat of primer was sanded. I then did 7 coats of Flat Ultra Pure white. Each 1 of the 7 coats was sanded before each coat, dusted off. If you don't do this the projector will pick up the plaster blotching.

Once that was done I then used Trim around the screen, painted it flat black. To prevent screen bleeding the trim was raised about 1/8" of the screen so the light can go under the trim.

Now if you are going to maximize your wall height you will get light on the ceiling. I fixed that by painting the area flat black with 45 degree  6" drop down ridges expanding 1 foot longer/width of the screen on both sides the.

This all cost me $250.00 and took me 5 hrs to make over 6 days.

To buy a 144" screen is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$  yet  I achieved the same quality making it!
Title: Re: Building a new Home Theater setup from the ground up. Need suggestions.
Post by: nataku_0 on 03:21 PM - 07/07/14
If you go the projector route, try one of those fancy 4k short throw projectors.
http://www.cnet.com/products/sony-4k-ultra-short-throw-projector/

(http://c745.r45.cf2.rackcdn.com/img/2009/sony_4k_ultra_short_throw_projector.jpg)
Title: Re: Building a new Home Theater setup from the ground up. Need suggestions.
Post by: Soulo on 12:45 PM - 07/08/14
GO with a projector! 

Here is what I bought for my apartment and all for around 2k.  With a 4-5k budget you can get an amazing projector and a full 7.1 surround sound.

Optoma GT750E (Gaming Projector) - $600 there are MUCH better projectors than this one but it will all depend on your room.
 Optoma GT760 (Link) Newer model (http://www.amazon.com/Optoma-GT760-Lumen-Gaming-Projector/dp/B00EB1ODNO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1404845048&sr=8-1&keywords=GT760)
Elite Screens Manual Pull Down 150" 16:9 - $235 FIXED FRAME is the way to go or you can EASILY make your own FIXED FRAME screen.
 Elite Screens(Link) there are better screens out there as well (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=elite%20screens%20150&sprefix=elite+screens+15%2Caps&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Aelite%20screens%20150)
Yamaha RX-v673 $399
 Yamaha Receivers (Link) (http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=yamaha+rx-v675&tag=googhydr-20&index=aps&hvadid=31463879747&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13958430550236990055&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_7a4zkuawlz_b)
Bic America (Acoustech Surround Speakers) - $899 for a full set the link below you can talk the price down.  They ship from Vegas and these speakers are comparable to Klipsch.  I read that EVERYWHERE from Klipsch owners and non Klipsch owners.  There are different speakers that will sound better for home theater movies or just music.  I chose the Acoustech as its better for movies and games.
 Acoustic Sound Design (Link) (http://www.acousticsounddesign.com/core/view_BigProduct.cfm?pid=1539&sc=27)


If you go with a projector (which in my opinion is the way to go over a small TV anything below 90" is small) you need to figure out a few things.    Trust me 110" - 200" in your own home and 3D for games or movies..... just mind blowing man.

If you want advice on everything your best bet is to go search for information at http://www.avsforum.com/ you will get the best info ever there!  I researched for a month or 2 before I bought anything and in the end I chose the above.  Projector was first coupled with my cheap @#$% HTIB, then the screen so we could paint the apartment, then the reciever and then the speakers.  I also ended up buying a good bluray3d player and I have everything running through my reciever to the projector.

You will also want an Active Redmere HDMI cable from monoprice they are super cheap but you will need it for running cable past 25ft if you want a good signal and 3d.