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Title: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 08:42 AM - 04/07/14
I have a little lap desk thing that I use when I am on the road.  It works pretty good, but there is not much area to mouse.  I am fairly low sense so I need some room.  I also have a wife and kids and mama don't like xbox stuff all over the living room so I need something that keeps all my stuff together and can be moved easily, and store easily.   

Those are the problems and here is the solution - I fooled around with some cardboard for a template and my fold up circle chair and found a shape that fits me and it.  I ended up making it ambidextrous and I am glad I did because the left side works well to put an ipad, drink or snacks.  I drilled some holes that i put some wire through to hold the controller, doublesided tape for the xim and screwed a couple pieces of elastic to slide my mouse and orbweaver in.  Wires are pulled through and wrapped up neatly underneath and handle makes the whole thing easy to grab and move. Then I used a piece of memory foam that my wife covered in fuzzy fabric for cushing under it.  You can just use a full pillow but its not as cool and one piece-ish.

The whole thing cost me $0, because I had all this crap already, but I figure you can make your own for less than $30 bucks. It is really slim, holds all my crap securely, and can fit under a bed or standing up in a closet without taking up much space. 

I will post some plans and directions up on my site http://www.makemodhack.com (http://www.makemodhack.com) if anybody wants to make their own.  For now just pics.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-B1xhwgk0FOY/U0DzRIdV8FI/AAAAAAAADNw/-TxwslRCmew/w728-h546-no/IMG_20140405_111542.jpg)

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(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4nwRBQ0ISig/U0Dlz1avNII/AAAAAAAADZg/T6-ynogqlS8/s2048-d/IMG_20140405_111621.jpg)

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Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: mindworm22 on 08:52 AM - 04/07/14
Well done.  Would *love* to make this for myself and free myself from dragging my table and chair out in front of the TV.  Can't wait for directions and a free weekend.

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Post by: OBsIV on 09:24 AM - 04/07/14
Excellent job! It looks really stable and I like how everything is secure on it for storage.
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Post by: roads on 10:33 AM - 04/07/14
Nice, I like the camo color so it can be hidden easily from females.
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Post by: xMetuZx on 12:19 PM - 04/07/14
Looks really good! Awesome job.
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Post by: mist4fun on 02:19 PM - 04/07/14
It looks great. The cost seems reasonable too. If I didn't play at a desk I would be using this.
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Post by: ak-xs on 10:26 AM - 04/08/14
nicely done! looks great!
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Post by: Manjerico on 11:49 AM - 04/08/14
Nicely done! Very good indeed.
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Post by: gunit2004 on 04:19 AM - 04/11/14
Nice setup bro. What are those 2 boxes you have connected to your Orbweaver and Mouse in the 2nd pic?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Serpent on 02:37 PM - 04/11/14
Nice setup bro. What are those 2 boxes you have connected to your Orbweaver and Mouse in the 2nd pic?
I think they are just the straps to hold in it place when not in Use.

Been waiting for instructions on how he created his on his website.  Would really like to know what he made it out of and how much it weighs
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 10:02 AM - 04/16/14
Sorry guys, I have been slacking. Also, my notifications aren't working for this thread so I didn't actually think anybody wanted this.  Oh well.  I can't find what I did with my pictures while I was making it, so I drew it out on SketchUp.  I am making another scaled down version for my mini me in a day or two.  I am teaching him the dark ways of WASD and mousing.  He gets the edge when the xim4 comes out. I will take pics and get my blog updated upon completion.

For now - Here are pics of the sketchup with dimensions, or you can download the .skp and open/modify/print on your own. 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-J6TE8MFwtCb0VzYVNNSmFzbVU/edit?usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-J6TE8MFwtCb0VzYVNNSmFzbVU/edit?usp=sharing)

Materials:

1/2 in. x 2 ft. x 4 ft. Medium Density Fiberboard - $10
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Unbranded-1-2-in-x-2-ft-x-4-ft-Medium-Density-Fiberboard-1508108/202089097 (http://www.homedepot.com/p/Unbranded-1-2-in-x-2-ft-x-4-ft-Medium-Density-Fiberboard-1508108/202089097)

3" elastic - $6 or less if you get them to  cut it.
http://www.joann.com/black-knit-elastic/11384385.html (http://www.joann.com/black-knit-elastic/11384385.html)

Paint of your choice - I used plastidip - $7

Wire - to hold controller $0, dig around, you have something.

Memory foam pillow for cushioning - walmart has them for $12 or use something else.

Fabric - use an old t-shirt or something

My wife sews crap so she has the girly stuff covered.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-WR5mpoYMSls/U06kW5WX00I/AAAAAAAADSs/GkGKnYVSUjc/w728-h398-no/angle+gaming+lap+desk+dim.JPG)

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Radii are 12" and 1", I have a 24" circle cut out piece of cardboard  i use to block my wheels when I spray shiny stuff on my tires.  You can also use a string/wire and pin to hold it and draw the radius.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-uKn3AQIC6Is/U06kW0XzE-I/AAAAAAAADSk/joBRmeWT6AU/w728-h574-no/desk+circles.JPG)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: rezneffix on 10:06 AM - 04/16/14
Excellent work!
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 10:08 AM - 04/16/14
Nice setup bro. What are those 2 boxes you have connected to your Orbweaver and Mouse in the 2nd pic?
I think they are just the straps to hold in it place when not in Use.

Been waiting for instructions on how he created his on his website.  Would really like to know what he made it out of and how much it weighs

This is correct - elastic to hold everything in place.  Works really well. 

Whole thing weighs about 10lbs.  With the memory foam you can't tell and I play for hours at a time.  The weight and foam make it really stable.  I usually have a cold beverage way out to the side without even a hint of tipping. 

Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: abc123 on 10:39 AM - 04/16/14
Nice craftsmanship!
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:57 AM - 04/16/14
Are you in Europe? Can I buy one from you?
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Post by: OBsIV on 11:31 AM - 04/16/14
Can I buy one from you?

I was actually going to suggest this. You should consider selling these desks, and, if interest grows going bigger. I personally haven't seen any really good gaming lapdesks out there.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: solly on 11:36 AM - 04/16/14
I am interested in one. I looked at your diagram and it just confused me. I'm very unhandy. Hanging a curtain rod last night, I was reminded about how much trouble I have with any tools or projects around the house.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 01:19 PM - 04/16/14
I might consider it.  There are a few hurdles that are probably going to make it too expensive though. 

1.  MDF is sorta heavy and with its size it is definitely going to be pricy to ship.  I'm in Texas so that helps keep it even to most the US. Shipping looks like minimum $25 to Cali from TX

2.  MDF comes in 4x8 sheets - Lots of fall off that gets wasted.  I could make them 32" wide and be able to get 6 out of a sheet, but that's 5 inches off and I don't think that puts your arm in a natural position when we cut off that width, unless we shift and it is made for righty or lefty.  Then you get into balance issues etc.  I don't really like making things half @#$%.

3.  Ya'll don't want to pay me to paint.  Trust me.  You paint it and we all save money.

4. Economy of scale - if I make 8- 12 of these it might be cheap enough to make it work.

It really should be made of a molded plastic for durability and so finishing cost, and weight go down.  This would reduce waste and be cheaper in every way. 

All that being said - I would love to make some for you guys but I doubt that it would be cost effective for both of us.  I have a job, so small timing a few desks here and there probably won't be worth my time.  (that sounds harsher than I mean it).  I mean, if you brought me a chunk of mdf to my house I would cut this out and send you on your way for a 6-pack.  That's fun on a Saturday afternoon, but if its Tuesday and I don't get beer out of it, its like work - therefore I need to get paid.  This may or may not make sense.

Lastly, I have a patent for a product and my journey into retail/manufacturing has been a learning experience to say the least.  I see potential in something like this but it takes money or people in the know to make it work.  I have had lots of ideas that are in stores now, problem is I didn't have resources to put them there.  BTW, If you want to learn to play guitar go get one of my trainers here - http://www.ezguitartrainer.com (http://www.ezguitartrainer.com)

/rant
/shameless plug

How many would pay what for one of these unfinished with two covered memory foam pads that you staple on after you paint it? 
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 02:26 PM - 04/16/14
Can I buy one from you?

I was actually going to suggest this. You should consider selling these desks, and, if interest grows going bigger. I personally haven't seen any really good gaming lapdesks out there.

If i ever moved to sofa gaming i would want one of these badly!
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 03:09 PM - 04/16/14
What about selling a paper template and the small parts? Still not worth it for EU but in US could work.
Can you measure in millimeters please?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 03:10 PM - 04/16/14
What about 9mm multiplex?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: solly on 03:48 PM - 04/16/14

How many would pay what for one of these unfinished with two covered memory foam pads that you staple on after you paint it?
I could figure out how to paint it yes.


here is something that is not nearly as nice as what you have made:
ēDimensions 22.4ĒL x 15.75ĒW x 2.2ĒH (2.6lbs) (its a full 15" smaller width.)
http://www.staples.com/Euro-Style-Lap-Desk/product_789290?


If shipping a big heavy MDF board around is 25.00 that gives me reason to pause. is there a way I could cut this out with my jigsaw ... I'd need a how-to video on creating a workable pattern with these circles and angles and geometry. :)

I would spend 60 bucks on something like this. that's not much beer money or margin when you factor in shipping of heavy material.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 09:29 PM - 04/16/14
What about selling a paper template and the small parts? Still not worth it for EU but in US could work.
Can you measure in millimeters please?

Sketch up is free to everybody,  You can download it and print from it.  I can also probably make a pdf to scale.  You just have to go to kinkos or whatever they have over there and print it. 

What about 9mm multiplex?

I had to google this.  We call it 3/8 plywood.  Even finish grade plywood can be grainy, and the plys, even if very tight will show on the ends.  It will work fine, just needs more work to finish it out. On a side note, I am almost positive I say aluminum different than you too.

here is something that is not nearly as nice as what you have made:
ēDimensions 22.4ĒL x 15.75ĒW x 2.2ĒH (2.6lbs) (its a full 15" smaller width.)
http://www.staples.com/Euro-Style-Lap-Desk/product_789290?

If shipping a big heavy MDF board around is 25.00 that gives me reason to pause. is there a way I could cut this out with my jigsaw ... I'd need a how-to video on creating a workable pattern with these circles and angles and geometry. :)

I would spend 60 bucks on something like this. that's not much beer money or margin when you factor in shipping of heavy material.

I have that desk exactly and it was my inspiration for this but it is barely big enough for a mouse and my surface pro 2.

I used a jigsaw to cut mine out.  Waiting on video to upload from phone, will be in next post.

I'm a big fan of showing people how to do things that help them do more with what they have for the rest of their life.  Kind of the teach a man to fish thing. Save your money invest in some decent tools.  Most of my tools were bought and paid for by projects.  I bought a welder instead of nerf bars on my truck and made them and other things that paid for that welder several times over.  The first few things looked like hell, but thats how you learn. Unhandy people can become very handy.  Hell, one of you probably has more brain cells that all of the guys I have ever had on my crews and they could build all sorts of things. You got this!

Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Boltman on 09:43 PM - 04/16/14
Excellent work!

I agree, if I didn't play on a desk I'd be all over making one of these.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:19 PM - 04/16/14
Quote
Sketch up is free to everybody,  You can download it and print from it.  I can also probably make a pdf to scale.  You just have to go to kinkos or whatever they have over there and print it. 

A scaled be nice! Cm or mm EU measurement would be nice.
What is the weight of this lapdesk?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 10:41 PM - 04/16/14
Pardon the redneck accent, It grew that way.

This is the layout according to previous sketch up pictures.

http://youtu.be/LJba6pE2-XE (http://youtu.be/LJba6pE2-XE)

http://www.youtube.com/v/LJba6pE2-XE&hd=1


A scaled be nice! Cm or mm EU measurement would be nice.
What is the weight of this lapdesk?


I'll see what I can do on the dimensions. 
It weighs 14lbs loaded, with pillow cushioning, controller, mouse and orbweaver.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:57 PM - 04/16/14
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Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 11:07 PM - 04/16/14
great video thanks
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Post by: roads on 11:09 PM - 04/16/14
Mist, Od1n can you please move this to tutorials where our stuff is, this is a tutorial now.
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Post by: mist4fun on 11:30 PM - 04/16/14
That's gducks call, he might want to keep it in projects.
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Post by: roads on 11:42 PM - 04/16/14
Come over gduck, a lot of nice tutorials over there.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 06:31 AM - 04/17/14
I play at a desk but i really want to make one of these and tweak it further!
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 07:04 AM - 04/17/14
That's gducks call, he might want to keep it in projects.
I don't know where this belongs.  If it fits better in tutorials send it that way.

This is how to cut it out -it gets loud and my stupid phone wont fast forward.  I may edit more in the future.

embed shows in preview but not thread - so putting both ways   

http://youtu.be/JMFye9bSVQk (http://youtu.be/JMFye9bSVQk)

http://www.youtube.com/v/JMFye9bSVQk&hd=1



Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: solly on 09:21 AM - 04/17/14
Thanks, I can't wait to check out the videos.
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Post by: mist4fun on 04:04 PM - 04/18/14
Nice. Reminds me of shop class. Good call on the camera angle and mount.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Serpent on 09:52 AM - 04/23/14
I am actually working on one of these as we speak and using MDF board.  The main issue I run into is cable management.  I use a g400 with the nostromo along with turtle beach xp7s with the ACU unit so its just a lot of cables running all over the place.   Any ideas on how to manage these things or just let them flow freely ..?  I'll Post some pictures and stuff along the way.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: xMetuZx on 11:27 AM - 04/23/14
I am actually working on one of these as we speak and using MDF board.  The main issue I run into is cable management.  I use a g400 with the nostromo along with turtle beach xp7s with the ACU unit so its just a lot of cables running all over the place.   Any ideas on how to manage these things or just let them flow freely ..?  I'll Post some pictures and stuff along the way.

I'd love to see those pictures.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 09:03 PM - 04/23/14
I am actually working on one of these as we speak and using MDF board.  The main issue I run into is cable management.  I use a g400 with the nostromo along with turtle beach xp7s with the ACU unit so its just a lot of cables running all over the place.   Any ideas on how to manage these things or just let them flow freely ..?  I'll Post some pictures and stuff along the way.

I'd love to see those pictures.

I used cable velcro keepers that I had laying around.  Take a piece long enough to get around the wires you have and then screw it to the bottom of the board.  I looped mine around and kept it in a roll to keep from kinks etc.  I made sure I put the keyboard and mouse in their farthest possible position and then looped it under the board. You may have to train the cables a little to get them to not grab on the edge of the board when you move, but it doesnt take long.

The only cable I have going out is a shorty usb to the xbox.   I leave a long extension cable in the xbox since its tucked behind my tv.  My astros are wireless so I only have the headset cable that I leave on the headset.  I bet you could manage to get your headset in the loop with the other wires.

Last - I set my configs and dropped the bluetooth and hub so that helps too.  XIM 4 is supposed to not need that stuff anyway.

relative location
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close up of velcro ties
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hole in desk for wires to drop through to loops
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-p-UFSqq8YyE/U1h2TrnYnsI/AAAAAAAADUI/WxT1aLauipI/w367-h489-no/IMG_20140423_210156.jpg)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 06:33 AM - 04/24/14
Would like to see this in action on the sofa please?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 06:35 AM - 04/24/14
Would like to see this in action on the sofa please?

I bet you would you dirty devil!

 ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 06:38 AM - 04/24/14
Whaaaaat? LOL
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Serpent on 09:38 AM - 04/24/14
I am actually working on one of these as we speak and using MDF board.  The main issue I run into is cable management.  I use a g400 with the nostromo along with turtle beach xp7s with the ACU unit so its just a lot of cables running all over the place.   Any ideas on how to manage these things or just let them flow freely ..?  I'll Post some pictures and stuff along the way.

I'd love to see those pictures.

Pictures to come have the cut out when I'm done sanding i'll take some more pictures and figure out how to post assuming I need them hosted elsewhere and link to them.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Serpent on 11:23 AM - 04/24/14
(http://i60.tinypic.com/20928hc.jpg)

started with a 3/8s MDF board it was a strange size to find it was in with the 1/4 inch but it was just slightly thicker might have been the end cut but seemed to have a nice balance of stiffness vs weight

(http://i60.tinypic.com/34yy8b8.jpg)

Jigsaw'd the corners using a Pot top as a template :-) The middle curve was off of an older style board I used to use.

(http://i62.tinypic.com/15rgk90.jpg)

All Sanded down trying to figure out an easy way to seal the ends for paint.  My girlfriend wants to paint it and I'll trust in her to do something awesome.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: boorassa on 03:30 PM - 05/03/14
I'm a prospective first time XIM user, and I found this doing a search for mousepad surfaces people used on their couch.  I just wanted to say that I envy your craftsmanship, and wish I could snag one for myself!
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: ak-xs on 03:55 PM - 05/03/14
I'm a prospective first time XIM user, and I found this doing a search for mousepad surfaces people used on their couch.  I just wanted to say that I envy your craftsmanship, and wish I could snag one for myself!

either make one or get one made dude. you have all the info here. you can even try to get a member to make one for ya..
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: boorassa on 04:54 PM - 05/03/14
Ha! I'm afraid I'm not handy.  Drilling cable holes in the back of my IKEA shelves stretched my ability to the limit.  And I'm sure whatever surfboard sized abomination I ended up with would not be welcome in the living room by the gf.

Also wasn't begging for handouts.  Just wanted to say your project looked great.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Serpent on 03:32 PM - 05/05/14
Ha! I'm afraid I'm not handy.  Drilling cable holes in the back of my IKEA shelves stretched my ability to the limit.  And I'm sure whatever surfboard sized abomination I ended up with would not be welcome in the living room by the gf.

Also wasn't begging for handouts.  Just wanted to say your project looked great.

Never know till you try I think I got the MDF board from home depot for like 7 Bucks so its not all that expensive I'm still working on my cherry mod for my Nostromo so this is on the back burner after i sanded it but a jigsaw and a standard hand saw did the trick. 
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 09:38 PM - 05/06/14
Ha! I'm afraid I'm not handy.  Drilling cable holes in the back of my IKEA shelves stretched my ability to the limit.  And I'm sure whatever surfboard sized abomination I ended up with would not be welcome in the living room by the gf.

Also wasn't begging for handouts.  Just wanted to say your project looked great.

MDF is really pretty forgiving and a jigsaw is a fairly friendly tool nowadays.  I'm encouraging everybody to give it a shot.  Get the xim.  I would be out of the FPS business on consoles if it wasnt for this product.  My seven year old kicks my butt on halo if I am on sticks.

I finished painting boy wonders mini lap desk and thought I would throw the camera on it in case it worked.  Considering he is going to probably tear this up ( he could ruin a sledghammer), I didn't take too much time on it.  All stencils were haphazardly cut and put on wet.  No down time in the painting process and even though I sped up and excessively clipped the video, it really only took about 20 minutes total.  Both logos lend themselves to sloppyness so it works for me.

http://youtu.be/GJmBqP7aC9s (http://youtu.be/GJmBqP7aC9s)

http://www.youtube.com/v/GJmBqP7aC9s&hd=1

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ItmVYPzoVI0/U2mfjUXex8I/AAAAAAAADXo/lLLiB_XwWUE/s2048-Ut/14+-+1)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-1I6v7pSQg8Y/U2mflstwLfI/AAAAAAAADXw/wDpLN25-KW8/s2048-Ut/14+-+2)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-rHJeQgSXYzI/U2mfhYdEYdI/AAAAAAAADXg/S2ufC7Y4Nzc/s2048-Ut/14+-+3)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: izzy on 06:26 AM - 05/07/14
Awesome.

Would definitely buy one of these if you finally decide to start selling them.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 07:38 AM - 05/07/14
gduck24 thats amazing creativity man! I almost want to switch to living room ximming just so i can have one of these lol.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: solly on 09:53 AM - 05/07/14

I play on a desk with the 360, but I will be playing my xbox one and xim4 on the sofa.

Thanks Gduck! This cinches it.

I am going to home depot today and buying a sheet of MDF and the coating spray. Then, I'm going to kinkos to print out the template. Anyone know if they can handle this file format on the googledrive?


Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 11:03 AM - 05/07/14
I am going to home depot today and buying a sheet of MDF and the coating spray. Then, I'm going to kinkos to print out the template. Anyone know if they can handle this file format on the googledrive?

try this pdf - page size is "Arch E"

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-J6TE8MFwtCdnMtcGtiU1RXSVE/edit?usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-J6TE8MFwtCdnMtcGtiU1RXSVE/edit?usp=sharing)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 12:17 PM - 05/07/14
Question about the bananas on your lap, is that comfy over time?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 06:37 PM - 05/07/14
Question about the bananas on your lap, is that comfy over time?

I've logged more than enough 4-5 hour rounds to say that this set up, although it sounds heavy, is very comfortable.  The memory foam pads that I used are really not that good of quality, but manage to disperse the weight so that you dont get any numbness in the legs, and I dont shift much.  As long as you don't have an edge setting up against you I bet you will be fine. 

The weight is what makes this really stable.  I can set a drink out on the side and not even think about it.  I think overall it could still be reduced 30% in weight to around 8-9lbs, but after that you would start losing stability.  It might could go more, but obviously at the point where a 44oz drink starts to weigh more that the other end of the desk you will have a problem.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 09:51 PM - 05/07/14
OK thanks that is my second question, where the hell is the cup holder :D
No really looks well thought.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 01:25 AM - 05/08/14
OK thanks that is my second question, where the hell is the cup holder :D
No really looks well thought.

I think he means the board is just stable enough while on his lap to rest a drink on there! Its so well built he doesn't need a cup holder.

Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: solly on 09:42 AM - 05/08/14
Question about the bananas on your lap, is that comfy over time?

is that a banana on your lap or are you just happy to see me?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Serpent on 11:30 AM - 05/08/14
really awesome paint job man.  Left room for more did ya :-)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 12:27 PM - 05/08/14
Question about the bananas on your lap, is that comfy over time?

is that a banana on your lap or are you just happy to see me?

It took a lot of restraint for me not to go here. lol

really awesome paint job man.  Left room for more did ya :-)

Thanks and I might have room for something else.  My son isn't allowed to play either of these games yet, but hes a fan of contraband like this, especially if it has skulls on it.

Roads - here is your action shot.  I like to be closer to the tv, so I use a fold up round chair, and put the whole thing up in the closet when I am done.  Speaking of action - how do I get this gif in my avatar? I have made it small enough in file size and dimensions?

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ezQXs1pj_AU/U2ukDqFNoHI/AAAAAAAADZE/SimIDQ3NnZk/w672-h353-no/14+-+1)

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Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: solly on 01:57 PM - 05/08/14
what kind of chair is that? I love how you had room leftover for a netbook!
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 02:11 PM - 05/08/14
http://mobile.walmart.com/ip/Mainstays-Microsuede-Saucer-Chair-Black/16451583 (http://mobile.walmart.com/ip/Mainstays-Microsuede-Saucer-Chair-Black/16451583)

That's the one. Looks sold out. There is a new one in the what do other people buy suggestion section.

I use Chrome on ipad for battle log.  It's got a zagg folio case so it looks like a netbook.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Serpent on 06:08 PM - 05/08/14
Looks like that could really only be comfortable for a certain amount of time.  I get to play in a recliner with wooden arm rests almost like it was designed for this


Did you use anything special when you painted it or just regular spray paint my girl wants to paint something onto it any suggestions what she should use.... oil based water based paints.. ?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: coolrunninja on 07:00 PM - 05/08/14
what kind of chair is that? I love how you had room leftover for a netbook!
'

i thought it was an ipad?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 08:15 PM - 05/08/14
Looks like that could really only be comfortable for a certain amount of time.  I get to play in a recliner with wooden arm rests almost like it was designed for this


Did you use anything special when you painted it or just regular spray paint my girl wants to paint something onto it any suggestions what she should use.... oil based water based paints.. ?

I sit on a memory pillow, but yes, the chair is not that good without it.  I like krylon?  It dries fast and is fairly forgiving.  Plasti dip is my new favorite for painting most things but its not super durable and so I went with regular spray paint.

i thought it was an ipad?

It is.  The zaggfolio case makes it look like a netbook or other ultralite.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Serpent on 08:39 PM - 05/08/14
did you sand the surface before painting ?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 08:56 PM - 05/08/14
No.  My mdf was pretty smooth.  If you are looking for quality on the paint, you will want to use a filling primer around the edges and lightly sand over that. Then paint.  Edges of mdf are like sponges and will soak up the paint and leave a different sheen than what you get on the flat surfaces.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 12:20 AM - 05/09/14
Looks really really comfy, great job.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: xMetuZx on 08:16 AM - 05/09/14
Question about the bananas on your lap, is that comfy over time?

is that a banana on your lap or are you just happy to see me?

It took a lot of restraint for me not to go here. lol

really awesome paint job man.  Left room for more did ya :-)

Thanks and I might have room for something else.  My son isn't allowed to play either of these games yet, but hes a fan of contraband like this, especially if it has skulls on it.

Roads - here is your action shot.  I like to be closer to the tv, so I use a fold up round chair, and put the whole thing up in the closet when I am done.  Speaking of action - how do I get this gif in my avatar? I have made it small enough in file size and dimensions?

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ezQXs1pj_AU/U2ukDqFNoHI/AAAAAAAADZE/SimIDQ3NnZk/w672-h353-no/14+-+1)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-DJi55d-nzx8/U2ukDstDq9I/AAAAAAAADZU/g40vQGFr8Z4/w671-h349-no/14+-+2)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/djcIyWs323nGDelqlk1CEe4g8gRL15NRVM2lFhuKhOo=w370-h207-p-no)

Man that's awesome! Excellent job!
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:03 AM - 05/09/14
Gif, sorry have no idea but yeah maybe too large.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 12:01 AM - 05/10/14
I think I will build this, what is the optimal thickness now, sturdyness/weight?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 01:06 AM - 05/10/14
Can you please make a pdf for the old motherlands, converted to cm from feet and inches.

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Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 09:40 AM - 05/10/14
I ordered 9mm multiplex cut in the correct rectangular size, I am curious how that is. I am not a fan of MDF mostly because I don't like IKEA.  I checked the weight and itís the same by 300g for the same size. It can be half as thick.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 07:54 AM - 05/14/14
Gduck I am still unsure what to put as cushion below. What are those two bananas again, where do I buy that?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 08:14 AM - 05/14/14
I bought a memory foam pillow from Walmart for $12.  I cut it with a straight edge and razor,  then got the wife to sew it up. I would make the front pad on mine thicker next time,  but you will want to adjust based on the angle of your legs while sitting.

I'm guessing you got it cut out? I was going to try to convert that pdf from yank.

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Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 08:35 AM - 05/14/14
Ahh OK but they don't need a battery? LOL 
I have the multiplex plate bought some hardwood double dented blades specifically for this kind of wood.. Hope I can cut it sharp.
Painting I saw a video of spraying with a heat gunning after each spray to make it smoother, have you tried that?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:51 AM - 05/14/14
Gduck what are the measurements of the handle hole please?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 07:19 AM - 05/16/14
Ok here it is, multiplex. 9mm thick. I think I will give it away to paint. Hate the mess after paintjob.

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Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 08:54 AM - 05/16/14
Excellent work!  it wasnt that bad was it?  Somebody back down the thread said they were getting started too, so hopefully we will see more, and more mods to this.  I'm always tweaking things.

Have you given it a test run with a pillow or something just to see how it feels?  I bet it is lighter by a few pounds so I am interested in stability.  Let us know what you think of it and keep us posted for paint and finishing touches. 

Drill your holes for controller and wires prior to paint or you risk messing up the job if the wood splinters from a bit that doesn't cut it perfectly.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:38 AM - 05/16/14
I have given a testrun with the uncut outer size board and it was completely stable. It has the same weight as 2cm MDF its just thinner and sturdier.
I am very unsure about the placement of the devices. I need the XIM4, the DSS2, Xbox controller, DS4 controller, mouse and N52te on the lapdesk. Also not sure how to fixate. The rubberbands you use are good for mouse and N52te. XIM and DSS velcro. Controllers dunno. I looked for controller fixations but there is nothing.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Serpent on 10:55 AM - 05/16/14
I have given a testrun with the uncut outer size board and it was completely stable. It has the same weight as 2cm MDF its just thinner and sturdier.
I am very unsure about the placement of the devices. I need the XIM4, the DSS2, Xbox controller, DS4 controller, mouse and N52te on the lapdesk. Also not sure how to fixate. The rubberbands you use are good for mouse and N52te. XIM and DSS velcro. Controllers dunno. I looked for controller fixations but there is nothing.

Looks good roads.im waiting for the.xim4 before I start finding a permanent place for the controller and xim plus I have the audio control unit from my xp7s .
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:59 AM - 05/16/14
Obsiv gave us the size already. Oh and I forgot the Adndroid needs room too. I thought of those gameclips they could be screwed to the lapdesk fro the controllers. Problem with the controllers is you can not rubberband them because of the buttons.SOme stuff could also be place under the lapdesk?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 11:57 AM - 05/16/14
Oh for multiplex use that extra hardwood saw and turn off all oscillation or it will tear out the rims pretty hard. Did some test cuts on different settings first.

http://www.amazon.de/Bosch-2609256A07-Stichs%C3%A4geblatt-extra-clean-Hardwood/dp/B009RQ3JMY
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 11:57 AM - 05/16/14
Googled for half an hour there is no good DS4 and Boner controller clip.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Serpent on 01:03 PM - 05/16/14
sounds cheesy but you could bend a wire hanger drill holes in the board and find something to clip it to on the board ... or permanently attach it to the board
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 01:07 PM - 05/16/14
sounds cheesy but you could bend a wire hanger drill holes in the board and find something to clip it to on the board ... or permanently attach it to the board


not cheesy - I used bailing wire on my controller. ;D
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 02:05 PM - 05/16/14
I think I will hold it with three screws for each controller, works with both DS4 and Bonecontroller. Dunno the name. Looks like a mushroom and has the thread only on lower side. The upper screw can have a thread on the top also with a rotary knob to be able to quickly remove.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 02:23 PM - 05/16/14
Perfect sofa comfort btw, played a couple of PvZ rounds. Still need the mem foam but great even without.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: solly on 02:50 PM - 05/16/14
nice work Roads, you are an inspiration for all!

Oh for multiplex use that extra hardwood saw and turn off all oscillation or it will tear out the rims pretty hard. Did some test cuts on different settings first.

http://www.amazon.de/Bosch-2609256A07-Stichs%C3%A4geblatt-extra-clean-Hardwood/dp/B009RQ3JMY

when I was at home depot picking up my MDF board, I got a pack of the hardwood saws for my jigsaw. I have a pretty bottom of the barrel black and decker jigsaw, so figured I had better get some good teeth for it.

I also picked up the spray paint that Gduck recommended.

To-do list:
any opinions?
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Workforce-23-in-Compact-Sawhorse-Twin-Pack-17182236/202021299

I'm not in a hurry at this point. once the Xim4 ship date is announced, then I'll be ready to rock.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 03:04 PM - 05/16/14
What color scheme are you going to go for Roads?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 03:12 PM - 05/16/14
Id like it white shiny coating but I would have to give it to a pro for that and it would cost dunno 200 Euro? Od1n you know someone in Munich who does cheap paint jobs?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 04:54 PM - 05/16/14
Those are one time use saw horses,  I had them,  and I wouldn't trust standing on them. If you can, get these -

http://m.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-Adjustable-Metal-Legs-Sawhorse-DWST11031/203040645/  (http://m.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-Adjustable-Metal-Legs-Sawhorse-DWST11031/203040645/)

Honestly - either or. I learned a long time ago you get what you pay for, but there are always exceptions.  Either buy it to tear it up, or buy it to keep and use forever.  There is not much in between. Harbor freight or top shelf.

On blades - Get fine tooth blades,  not thin for really intricate cutting,  just fine teeth for wood.  Skinny blades will bend on the curves and not cut straight vertically or horizontally. Blade needs to be rigid,  teeth are fine cut.

Roads -  I don't know how much cash 200 euros is but y'alls money is worth more than ours right now, so I would consider painting the under side and use a formica or other laminate on top.  It's reasonable, and could give you the white you are looking for, in a surface that could be cleaned and would hold up better than paint.  You could probably do both sides,  one black one white,  so you could swap depending on which side of the force you wanted to use for a particular round.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: glenn37216 on 07:15 PM - 05/16/14
Nice work roads ! I've started to gather supplies for something similar. Instead of using the paint gduck suggested I'm going to try truck bedliner spray.

I use it to spray my metal detector coils and pin pointers for durability. If it's painted right , I may eliminate the need for a good mousepad.  ;)
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Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Serpent on 09:23 PM - 05/16/14
I think my girl is gunna paint it with some designs dont really care what type of paint she uses.  I think I am going to clear coat it and actually use that infomercial stuff flex seal to seal it and protect it.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:03 PM - 05/16/14
This is a must have in my opinion. I love it. Its very easy to hold stuff firm and release it and it stands great. Also easy to store away as its really small. A must have instead of sawhorses imho. I have the exact same crocklock and it is like advertised.
 
http://www.youtube.com/v/a8T6dGAwt0Y&hd=1

Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 03:51 AM - 05/17/14
Any Idea for the top fixation? Not happy with another screw

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Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Y2K on 04:02 AM - 05/17/14
http://www.instructables.com/id/Wall-Clip-Hang-Video-Controllers-on-Walls/
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 04:17 AM - 05/17/14
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Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: glenn37216 on 04:24 AM - 05/17/14
I kinda like that roads ..

What about some type of foam or cushion around the bolt shaft ? could possibly hold it to a snug fit ...
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 04:44 AM - 05/17/14
Dont think that would hold, good idea though, Its also 9mm wood so contnuous force would loosen the bolts over time. I would go with a rubber string over both controllers but that would press buttons I think XIM4 will go top left and no DSS on the thing so you only have one cord going to the lapdesk.
But yeah on second thought a top screw over each controller rubbered or foamed, did you mean that?. But where do I get such a pin not bolt screw. I could just cut the top of the screw and put a tube on it stolen from my own OR.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 07:54 AM - 05/17/14
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Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 08:03 AM - 05/17/14
Yeah saw that, not sexy enough, can you pick it up to play?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 02:04 PM - 05/17/14
Gduck, is 50cm that is 19.6 inch wide enough as memory foam? Not sure if that is long enough? Btw the more I use the leapdesk the better it is. This is an awesome design.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 04:44 PM - 05/17/14
Yes.  Mine is prolly 20". Cut it roughly 5" tall.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 04:47 PM - 05/17/14
I've got ideas in my head on the Controller situation.  At a birthday party for kids right now but I'll post prototypes when I get home.  I don't have ps4 but I thing that it could work on both.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 11:12 PM - 05/17/14
Yes.  Mine is prolly 20". Cut it roughly 5" tall.

I mean the length not width, my bad, is that long enough over your legs? So how long are your bananas?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: mindworm22 on 06:43 AM - 05/18/14
So how long are your bananas?

That's kind of a personal question don't you think Roads?   Better for PMing if you really need to know IMHO.

=)

(And as someone from the medical profession, not sure why you're convinced he has *more than one*, but I digress...)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 07:04 AM - 05/18/14
Yeah and don't cheat measuring LOL
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 08:43 AM - 05/18/14
Any Idea for the top fixation? Not happy with another screw

I seen this and was thinking about something similar..
I dunno how this would work on a flat board..

http://www.youtube.com/v/gY2Ns2gZ2lg&hd=1

Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 11:26 AM - 05/18/14
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Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 06:41 PM - 05/18/14
My bananas are 20", lol.

I've been trying to think of something that will work for these controllers and think I got it.  There's problems with the buttons and different controllers so I think this will be somewhat universal.

Drumroll please.......

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Roads - I'm bringing sexy back. No homo.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:30 PM - 05/18/14
Yes it is sexy and looks great, I had the same idea in mind as itís the only possibility to Velcro. I just did not have the piece of wood at hand and my Velcro is so strong it would rip the battery holder out of its place. So I went with the sticks. That black stick what is that? Looks nice.

This is 50cm/22" wide. Still you say I have to cut it? My guess is yes as my knees may be more far apart so I would need it in 3 pieces? Thick part close on the lap right? My other problem is how do I fixate the bananas. This is no MDF where I can just staple it to the wood. I think I will have to go with 5mm maximum 7mm screws. So leaving that pillow in one piece would be nice to screw on the pillowcase.

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Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 11:29 PM - 05/18/14
Black stick is a screw with black rubber rigid hose,  and a rubber washer from plumbing parts.  I  was trying to recreate your pieces and use some elastic to secure it.

I worried about heat with a full pillow,  but you could certainly leave it one piece.  Fat side would go closer to you. If the pillow has fabric on it Screws will be fine,  but I think you would be surprised by the staple gun.  If the staples don't set, just set them all the way with a hammer.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 12:47 AM - 05/19/14
Alright will try, have a staple gun here, will try but multiplex is really hard by its layering. Will try the full pillow and see how heat is, was my concern also but then again I already have a child LOL.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Serpent on 11:33 AM - 05/19/14
really cool idea with the Velcro gduck.  I like that u can pick it up in situations like a kill streak that just doesn't cooperate with the xim
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 02:40 PM - 05/19/14
I think it will work like that for most games.  Velcro has some wiggle in it,  but it's not letting it go super easy unless you gently lady it down. If you push all the velcro together it takes a little bit of a fight to get it off.

I play bf4 only and back when I changed to xim,  I vowed to learn to fly with the mouse so I never have to pick up my controller. I can fly just as good now but choppers are flying coffins now so it doesn't matter.

 Seems like most of you guys are Cod here,  I'm missing my old crews from 360 as the haven't made the upgrade yet.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 05:03 AM - 05/20/14
I will fixate this with velcro sutured to the cushion so it can be removed and washed. It brings the lapdesk to the perfect elbow hight. Gduck you are a genius and I love you! This makes gaming so comfy. Cant wait it is finished and I will make it paint by a pro even if it costs.

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Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 05:08 AM - 05/20/14
Still unsure about the cables and where to place the holes. Tough decision.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 07:27 AM - 05/20/14
Awesome! The best part is when you get it all sorted and connected and then you have the ease of moving plus the comfort.

I bet the whole pillow makes it very stable.  Velcro will also make it easy.  If heat and weight aren't an issue I may change. The bananas flatten out pretty easy on mine.  Still no discomfort but my pillow was cheap so I wonder how long it will last.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 07:47 AM - 05/20/14
This pillow is also cheap and yeah its super stable and wide enough. Was afraid of that most.

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the ease of moving plus the comfort.

Yes, sofa gaming with the XIM is horrible mostly as you have to set up every time. With your lapdesk its easy.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Serpent on 10:41 AM - 05/20/14

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the ease of moving plus the comfort.

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Yes, sofa gaming with the XIM is horrible mostly as you have to set up every time. With your lapdesk its easy.

Agreed I have a recliner chair to play from I used something like
http://www.amazon.com/Levenger-Lap-Desk-Dark-Cherry/dp/B00IV3AEZY/ref=fs_patw_1

But way cheaper and smaller and I run my mouse of more times to count and the storage room for all my devices .. phone it gets crowded to say the least...
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:52 AM - 05/20/14
Gduck found quite a perfect size I must say.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 01:03 AM - 05/21/14
The holes I made on the left for two XIM4, then on left side still one for the N52te, right side for the controllers and mouse. Gduck you see any other holes I need as when the paintjob is done professionally there is no way to add another. I have a super great color in mind.

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Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 08:59 AM - 05/21/14
I don't see any.
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Post by: gduck24 on 09:05 AM - 05/21/14
Not that I can think of.
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Post by: mist4fun on 01:09 PM - 05/21/14
Hole or slot for adjustable cup holder?
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Post by: solly on 01:40 PM - 05/21/14
Hole or slot for adjustable cup holder?

I think Doc Brown said this:
"Cup holders? where we're going we won't need integrated lapdesk cup holders."



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Post by: roads on 01:47 PM - 05/21/14
You mean bring its geekness to the next level? :D
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Post by: Boltman on 01:55 PM - 05/21/14
I find that pic of the androgynous creature wearing the can holding hat revolting.
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Post by: roads on 01:58 PM - 05/21/14
@#$% the pillow does heat up the nutties. Not sure this is better by cutting in half. The pillow I mean.
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Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 02:25 PM - 05/21/14
Lol!!!!!

I love the way you felt you had to explain exactly whats was in need of being cut in half to prevent heating up!

xD.
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Post by: solly on 09:39 AM - 05/22/14
I find that pic of the androgynous creature wearing the can holding hat revolting.

LOL!

hot people do not wear hats that hold cans.
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Post by: neepz on 11:24 AM - 05/26/14
@#$% the pillow does heat up the nutties. Not sure this is better by cutting in half. The pillow I mean.

Why not just use memory foam or uphoalstery foam?.
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Post by: roads on 11:40 AM - 05/26/14
That is mem foam, still gets hot in Summer. Its great without any pillow also
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Post by: solly on 10:24 AM - 05/27/14
thinking the micro bead filled pillows may work well as they are heat neutral in my experience. I think I have a couple laying in storage.
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Post by: roads on 10:28 AM - 05/27/14
Yeah could be nice.
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Post by: Serpent on 11:19 AM - 05/27/14
https://www.chillow.com/


Lol never know what things could work from the television.
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Post by: roads on 11:29 AM - 05/27/14
They dont :D
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Post by: roads on 01:00 AM - 05/29/14
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/29/6arymubu.jpg)

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/29/u8yda3yn.jpg)

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Post by: roads on 01:05 AM - 05/29/14
Its not a perfect paintjob but so isnt the cutting and finishing. I am not very patient and finishing the wood perfectly would take weeks. The paint is automotive paint. I am not happy with the controller fixations as you can only pick them up wirelessly. On the other hand I dont pick them up at all :)
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Post by: roads on 01:40 AM - 05/29/14
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/29/gy9ydevu.jpg)
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Post by: roads on 01:49 AM - 05/29/14
Gduck, did you fixate the mousepad? If yes, how? I am thinking of using hotglue drops in each corner as it can be removed easily with Isopropylic alcohol. The Hayate needs cleaning monthly sadly.
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Post by: glenn37216 on 04:36 AM - 05/29/14
Nice job roads .

   I think his mouse pad sticks to the desktop all by itself . It's super thin and works like the razer sphex  (http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-mouse-mats/razer-sphex)pad I own which has a adhesive bottom to stick on any surface.
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Post by: roads on 05:54 AM - 05/29/14
I used hotglue, works well, actually the only glue I can control removal.

The Lapddesk is phenomenal. I love it, its perfect. Will have to remove the stupid G502 cord tissue, it loves to stick on Velcro.
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Post by: gduck24 on 08:53 AM - 05/29/14
Dang! That is really sharp!  Grey is a good choice, too.

My first mousepad was a cheapo hard mat from office depot or something and it had some sticky on it, but I helped it with some scotch tape looped on itself.  I just picked up the cloth g240 to match my G502 and I used fabric adhesive to stick it on.  I didn't think about cleaning it.  I guess I can just turn it up on end and brush it out?
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Post by: roads on 09:14 AM - 05/29/14
Sure that will work. Its silver like a car just not shiny.
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Post by: roads on 02:21 PM - 05/31/14
played a bit without bananas at all. I need a slight elevation and minimal space to my screws and cables so I might go with this.
http://www.amazon.de/gp/aw/d/B003H0LCP2/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?qid=1401567428&sr=8-3
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Post by: roads on 10:36 AM - 06/03/14
I found a shop that makes foam the size you like and a pillowslip as you like. They make me a 70X30X5 cm one of hard foam and fake leather pillowcase. Costs me 60 Euro with postage. Will see how it is.
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Post by: gduck24 on 12:20 PM - 06/03/14
Does xim support steering wheels and pedals? I used to play GT and had made a console cabinet for the pedals and steering.  This lap desk might work to put the steering on it.  Just a thought. 
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Post by: roads on 12:54 PM - 06/03/14
Dunno not a racing fan (sorry Orbital but love Walter RŲhrl). The Lapdesk would support it for sure.
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Post by: solly on 01:08 PM - 06/03/14
update: I printed out the lifesize gaming desk drawing template today at fedex/kinkos. It was $9, not too bad.

next step, I'll cut it out and trace the image on the MDF board and then use that as my guide for my black and decker jigsaw.
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Post by: roads on 01:30 PM - 06/03/14
Use 9mm Multiplex, its thinner and more robust and looks cleaner at the same weight. You just need a good jigsaw and a hardwood blade*.

*+20HP, fire damage, LOL
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Post by: glenn37216 on 03:33 PM - 06/03/14
update: I printed out the lifesize gaming desk drawing template today at fedex/kinkos. It was $9, not too bad.

next step, I'll cut it out and trace the image on the MDF board and then use that as my guide for my black and decker jigsaw.

I 've showed this thread to some potential future Xim n00bs recently and they've did the exact same thing .  gduck you should sell templates for those not close to a good print shop .   ;D
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Post by: neepz on 06:22 PM - 06/03/14
It's looking good Roads mate, love the colour.
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Post by: roads on 09:50 PM - 06/03/14
I am thinking the headset would be nice on there too but I guess its too late now. If someone makes it new a place for it should be cosidered on the left. Not easy to fixate. Maybe double-sided velcro straps.
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Post by: roads on 12:01 AM - 06/04/14
Sometimes after an hour of googling for fixation possibilities for headsets you just need a wife who just puts the headset in its place walking by. LOL

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/04/apabyser.jpg)
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Post by: gduck24 on 12:36 AM - 06/04/14
Lol.  That might work right? I would like to do something liki this on mine but i have to charge my headset.  At least the A50 can with a stand an charger




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Post by: roads on 12:42 AM - 06/04/14
Yeah as there are cables running on the back its quite firm on there. Yes, the charger is the problem, I hoped to have the XIM cable as only one going to the lapdesk but I need to charge the headset and run the stupid Android phone that even with new battery needs energy daily even in standby. So I will add a 3m USB cable to the pack that runs from a Iphone charger.

This lapdesk is awesome, it makes my wife laugh every time I use it. :D
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Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 02:44 AM - 06/04/14
Roads just wondering, would three of these make your lap desk look more tidy?

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Up-Right-Angle-USB-2-0-Adapter-Type-A-Male-Female-NEW-/06/!B7YCjPgBWk~$(KGrHqN,!iMEzN9OnYO(BM0BLHNtn!~~_12.JPG)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Up-Right-Angle-USB-2-0-Adapter-Type-A-Male-Female-NEW-/180582325025

Then you could have the holes in the lap desk directly in front of the EDGE to conceal the wires more?
You could have the mouse and keyboard cables route through a hole near there position on the board?

You could even use tacs and a joinery router to create grooves on the back side of the board to help conceal the wires more efficiently?
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Post by: roads on 04:14 AM - 06/04/14
Yeah not a bad idea but you would need short and exactly fitting cables on top of all peripherals that are much too long. The nice thing with the hole is you adjust as much cable and only so much you need on the lapdesk. How the bottom looks I don't really care. I will post picks in some weeks when the cushion is here. Takes 20 days they say.
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Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 04:50 AM - 06/04/14
:D cool.
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Post by: roads on 06:35 AM - 06/04/14
If you want one the man who could make it for you is the guy formerly known as Arctic Penguin. Dunno if still works in the wood business but he did. You know him right? But you're a desk player anyway.
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Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 06:59 AM - 06/04/14
Yes i am, and if i was to want one of these i would build it my self i've said it before i have lots of ideas that would make this board perfect for me.

I'll maybe settle on getting one / building one, once my reaction times starts slowing towards the 250ms mark. Then i'll focus more of chilling rather then pwning.
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Post by: gduck24 on 02:05 PM - 06/04/14
I 've showed this thread to some potential future Xim n00bs recently and they've did the exact same thing .  gduck you should sell templates for those not close to a good print shop .   ;D

$15? free shipping? ebay?
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Post by: roads on 02:46 AM - 06/12/14
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Prym-Druckknopfe-15-mm-Yacht-Caravan-10-Stueck-L0211-/00/$(KGrHqYOKiIE31QRwu4mBOB64M3LNw~~0_12.JPG)

good idea for controller fixation

Got those today, works fine. I can now pick up the controller.
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Post by: KodRaiN on 04:27 AM - 06/12/14
I posted in the "post your setup pics" thread already, but I'll repost in this thread because of the relevance.  The design I have is the best I've seen on this thread as far as portability, but wouldn't work well for a full keyboard or for putting other things like drinks (if you like to live dangerously) on the lap desk.  When I go to a friend's house or anywhere else to game, I fit everything (360, lap desk, Turtle Beaches, games, spare controller and a 24"monitor) in a suitcase that is still small enough to fit in the overhead compartment of a plane. 

(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p318/UberDrummer/WP_20140611_23_48_47_Pro__highres.jpg)
The home made, folding lap pad for my XIM.  Made out of 2 large cutting boards, including the controller holster which is made out of the scraps from where I cut the handles off and two large garage tool hooks.  I've been using this for almost 3 years now and it's held up to some pretty serious traveling.  the XIM and The G13 are held in place with Velcro. 
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p318/UberDrummer/WP_20140611_23_50_28_Pro__highres.jpg)
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p318/UberDrummer/WP_20140611_23_51_23_Pro__highres.jpg)

(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p318/UberDrummer/WP_20140611_23_49_59_Pro__highres.jpg)
For ergonomics I fabricated a palm support out of a tennis ball, two 1/4" step bushings, and a 1/2" piece of aluminum rod.  It is completely removable for cleaning.
 
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p318/UberDrummer/WP_20140611_23_56_19_Pro__highres.jpg)
Finally, my stained oak lap board for PC use.  I datoed the end so I could add a piece of cutting board flush with the rest of it.  Cutting board is a great surface for optic/laser mice.  It is incredibly smooth, easy to clean, and I've had no tracking issues with the mouse optics.  The only problem with building stuff out of it is that NOTHING, not even paint, superglue, or even gorilla glue will stick to it.  For that reason you must screw everything together which ends up making a more durable structure anyway.  I also added nylon furniture feet to the bottom so it does not scratch up my nice oak table. 
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Post by: gduck24 on 06:30 AM - 06/12/14
Dang dude!  That's pretty cool. You must do some serious traveling.  What machine do you take with you,  just xbox? Is there never a tv you can hook up to with adaptors?  I pretty much forgo games when i travel because I'm used to my Internet.  Hotel Internet is usually junk.  That cable manager has my wheels turning. How do you secure the controllers?
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Post by: KodRaiN on 07:02 AM - 06/12/14
I only own a 360.  First I pack all the cables around the support bars that house the handles when rolling the suitcase.  That's also where the disassembled monitor stand fits, as well as some games packed into a CD booklet.  Next I place the monitor face-down with a 1/8th inch piece of laminate custom cut to protect the screen, along with a hand towel to eliminate scratching.  On top of that I place the xbox and power brick on one end, and the lap pad on the other.  The controller must have the chat pad removed and placed elsewhere, so the controller will fit between the G13 and the managed cables otherwise it sits too high in the suitcase.  The Turtle Beach headset sits around the xim and the receiver lies on top of the G13  I pack a few old beach towels in on top to keep everything in place and protected.  It's all survived a few flights with no issues but I always carry it on. 

Yeah I've packed that up a few times... Manly for short trips to chill with local friends, but I've traveled out of state to hang out with friends on Xbox Live a few times.  I wouldn't bring it on just regular family trips. 

If I know for sure I will have access to a high-quality monitor, I won't bother bringing mine.  If not, it really doesn't take up much space because of how thin it is.  It's worth having it instead of getting stuck on an old plasma with crazy amounts of input lag/response.

Oh yeah, I also pack about 150 feet of cat5, a few couplers, and a 5-port router with its DC adapter.
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Post by: FatherTed on 03:51 AM - 06/14/14
Does anyone know what dimensions the XIM4 will be, I'm making a version of the gaming table and just trying to position it......Thanx.
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Post by: roads on 05:47 AM - 06/14/14
yes do a search did ask, don't remember what Obs said.
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Post by: FatherTed on 02:01 PM - 06/14/14
Sweet thanks, got it 109mm x 85mm plus allowing for ventilation,
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Post by: roads on 02:48 PM - 06/14/14
Yes right that was it :) Also count in maybe 5cm on each side for the USB plugs and the cable that bends.
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Post by: gduck24 on 03:07 PM - 06/14/14
You guys that are making these make sure and post your pictures.  I'm interested in seeing them along with your custom tweaks for your setup.
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Post by: FatherTed on 03:57 PM - 06/14/14
Will do I am using plywood and doing the cutting with a router so its all nice and clean....Paint job is going to be a custom camo, as I have a friend who does it to peoples paintball markers. Will post pictures when complete.
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Post by: Serpent on 12:34 PM - 06/23/14
(http://i60.tinypic.com/b8p9hl.jpg)

Half way their with painting.  Going to smooth out the black around it with another coat and still adding a few more coats to the SERPENT in the middle letting the GF handle it so its taking some time but it looks awesome.   
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Post by: roads on 11:56 PM - 06/27/14
Just a not so stupid fixation idea for the board.

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Post by: FatherTed on 02:01 AM - 06/28/14
That is a great idea, well done and kicking myself for not thinking of it.
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Post by: gduck24 on 06:32 AM - 06/28/14
Dang.  It's usually the simplest things that we over-complicate.
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Post by: KodRaiN on 08:20 AM - 06/28/14
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p318/UberDrummer/WP_20140626_16_55_07_Pro__highres.jpg)
Adhesive velcro patches with screws to anchor the corners (stuff doesn't really stick to cutting board.)  Also anchored some velcro cable ties to hold the cables in place.

 
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p318/UberDrummer/WP_20140626_16_51_14_Pro__highres.jpg)
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Post by: FatherTed on 07:45 PM - 07/01/14
Just wondering, if the XIM4 plugs into the front of the ps4 controller it will leave me with no way of charging while playing or has someone come up with a bright solution for this.....Thanx
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Post by: roads on 11:01 PM - 07/01/14
Just put the XIM4 somewhere else on the board the left border is completely unused. Check where I have put the stuff.
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Post by: bmac009 on 08:43 PM - 07/07/14
Could people who have made this please post up some pics of what they produced? Need some ideas of where to put things.. Thanks.
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Post by: roads on 10:26 PM - 07/07/14
I already did, will post next pics with XIM4.
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Post by: Riexn on 01:56 AM - 07/08/14
This is like one of those DIY fighting stick threads. I like this.
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Post by: roads on 03:21 AM - 07/08/14
I recommend this for all couch potatos.
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Post by: Serpent on 03:53 PM - 07/09/14
I recommend this for all couch potatos.

+1
 
Althought I play in a recliner i still suggest making one its simple and extremely useful.
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Post by: bmac009 on 07:41 PM - 07/09/14
I have made one, just waiting for the xim to be released and then to cut out the holes for the cables.
I was going to try and map out where I would put the N52TE, the Mouse/mat and then room for the controller and xim. Roads was saying put it on the left hand side. So I might just do that, but as the great roads also said, once painted you can't put any more holes in. Well you might, but will also destroy the paint job.
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Post by: roads on 09:33 PM - 07/09/14
Well I have a pro car paint on it for 200$, don't want that to crack. If you use a spray paint sure go on and drill more holes I think. Ask Gduck.
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Post by: gduck24 on 10:10 PM - 07/09/14
Yes,  and if you just spray paint or plasti dip go ahead and drill what you need now and drill later and touch up.  I think i am going to put a plastic laminate top on mine soon and see what that works like. 

I think I'm going to sell 3 of my old xbox 360 and get a ps4 soon so i will have to do some rearranging too.
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Post by: roads on 05:56 AM - 07/14/14
The fake leather custom fit cushion came today. Quality is almost leather. like It is Velcro held. Will be able to set up cables with XIM4. It looks awesome, will test comfort later.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/14/y8u9ypen.jpg)
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Post by: roads on 06:28 AM - 07/14/14
Had to try at once. Its awesome, really comfy. Was a good choice to take hard Coldfoam so it floats and not too much surface on legs.
premium fake leather with zipper.
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Post by: gduck24 on 06:54 AM - 07/14/14
So there's not a lot of squish? Still think it will be comfy on long hauls?
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Post by: gduck24 on 06:55 AM - 07/14/14
Looks sharp, btw.
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Post by: roads on 07:39 AM - 07/14/14
Its not that hard, just the hardest coldfoam. Its still foam :D you can pinch almost through the other side with the fingers but it needs quite some force.
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Post by: Serpent on 09:00 AM - 07/14/14
Looks good I feel like I would still be sweating with my legs on it but not many other solutions.  Ever think of doing something like (https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQilZk2BTVq8VWOY4v4vkgNRvXawbA-U6xVGNBBo5pjyZ6D8TRK1IJGIzPh)

Mainly the Leg Cushions on each side instead of relying resting it on your legs?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:28 AM - 07/14/14
Yeah that requires some space on the sofa. With the Gduck thing my wife already laughs her @#$% off when I play. On the Gduck your arm fall in place perfectly at 5cm height. Thatís what makes it comfy. From the sweating standpoint yeah a plus for that thingy. From putting in place the gduck wins. Pull up the plate and play. No playhouse building.
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Post by: mist4fun on 06:37 PM - 07/14/14
She may laugh but I bet there is less clutter because of that lapdesk. She has to appreciate that.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 06:59 PM - 07/14/14
My wife used to laugh at me to too.  She definitely did not use to laugh when i pulled out the gaming chair and crap i used to have to get from a couple rooms just to play xbox.  Relatively thin and all inclusive is where it's at.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:35 PM - 07/14/14
Yeah clutter is alot less no question.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Serpent on 03:58 PM - 07/15/14
still awaiting my paint job to finish man oil paint takes forever to dry .. once i really get the xim 4 in my hands i can really start placing my wires and devices.. I bought a sony nav since they are so cheap now want to try that out before I go and make room for my n52te.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 12:05 PM - 07/17/14
I present you the perfect Gduck G502 fixation. You do not need that stupid bottom plate to play. Gif is large may take to load. The Lapdesk is standing up vertical.

(http://www11.pic-upload.de/17.07.14/ashd49rz3pue.gif)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 01:45 PM - 07/17/14
Nice,  I saw people on other forums talking about not using the bottom plate for weight reasons.  May check this out tonight.  You have a hard mouse pad?  I am using fabric g240?  Any potential to hang and jack up my fabric?
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Post by: solly on 01:45 PM - 07/17/14
that is really cool! nice animation.
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Post by: KodRaiN on 02:12 PM - 07/17/14
Couldn't you also glue a neodimium magnet to the inside of the batery cover, and affix another (or a piece of steel) to the lapdesk?  I'm pretty sure the magnet shouldn't effect the electronics of the mouse, especially since I've purchaced (razer) devices with magnets in the boxes they came in. 

Anyway, when I get home I'll upload detailed pictures of the much larger folding lapdesk I made that fits full keyboards.  I know it's different than your template, but ideas are ideas. 
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 02:20 PM - 07/17/14
Nice,  I saw people on other forums talking about not using the bottom plate for weight reasons.  May check this out tonight.  You have a hard mouse pad?  I am using fabric g240?  Any potential to hang and jack up my fabric?

No I have a Hayate, I fixated it with four drops of hotglue. Hotglue can be removed super easy with isopropylic alcohol. Looses all contact in seconds.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 02:23 PM - 07/17/14
Couldn't you also glue a neodimium magnet to the inside of the batery cover, and affix another (or a piece of steel) to the lapdesk?  I'm pretty sure the magnet shouldn't effect the electronics of the mouse, especially since I've purchaced (razer) devices with magnets in the boxes they came in. 

Anyway, when I get home I'll upload detailed pictures of the much larger folding lapdesk I made that fits full keyboards.  I know it's different than your template, but ideas are ideas. 

Problem is the magnet wont hold the heavy mouse and the most anoying thing with the lapdesk is if stuff is dangling. The bottom cover however really holds it firmly in any direction but that side lifting one.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: KodRaiN on 02:53 PM - 07/17/14
A neodimium magnet would easily hold a G502 or a 602 with batteries.  Some of them are rated to 75 psi. 
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 02:57 PM - 07/17/14
K didn't know but nothing bad with my solution. The bottom plate is really useless and just adds weight. I had it off thats why I had the idea.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 03:00 PM - 07/17/14
Dont leave magnets around with small kids. Friend of us has a kid less now. Boy ate a magnet and later a second. They found each other in the intestines. surgery was too late. 
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: mist4fun on 03:08 PM - 07/17/14
That's sad. I've read similar stories with the ball magnet toys which are now banned so I've been cautious of this from the very beginning.

Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: KodRaiN on 03:25 PM - 07/17/14
Yeah, there's a huge warning label on every pack of magnets. 

Am I the only person who thinks, "f*cking magnets, how do they work?" every time I hear the word, "Magnets?"
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 03:57 PM - 07/17/14
Anyway, when I get home I'll upload detailed pictures of the much larger folding lapdesk I made that fits full keyboards.  I know it's different than your template, but ideas are ideas.

Thats what this thread is for.  I would like to see it. Although I am pretty sure you could go full keyboard on this one. 

I have never heard that about magnets.  Its a wonder I am alive with all the things that can kill you. 

I love magnets btw.  I think they are magic and someday when we will fly and other cool things on them.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: KodRaiN on 04:05 PM - 07/17/14
I was quoting that ICP track, Miracles.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 04:11 PM - 07/17/14
Lol.  I somehow have an album or two of theirs and they are, um,  entertaining?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: KodRaiN on 09:03 PM - 07/17/14
Whenever I see a Hatchetman emblem I automatically assume "high school dropout welfare-leecher"

Anyway, here she is:
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p318/UberDrummer/WP_20140705_03_06_02_Pro.jpg)
The full PC gaming setup.  fits under the coffee table easily. 

(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p318/UberDrummer/WP_20140717_20_24_14_Pro.jpg)
Upper deck for placing.... stuff?  Easily room for a XIM to the left of the upper deck, and space to place a secured controller on the deck.  Also, holds beverages but sadly, does not blend. 

(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p318/UberDrummer/WP_20140717_20_25_41_Pro.jpg)
Solid construction.  Tongue-and-groove joints and screws since nothing sticks to cutting board (by the way, greatest mouse suface EVAH!)

(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p318/UberDrummer/WP_20140717_20_26_08_Pro.jpg)
Locking arm.  This is not on my smaller model I use for ximming, as the shorter width and center-heavy load prevents me from folding up that lapdesk during use.  Since this model is quite a bit wider, I needed to lock it in place somehow.  The two prongs lock into the corresponding holes, and neodymium magnets prevent the arm from swinging out of place during storage or use. 

(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p318/UberDrummer/WP_20140717_20_27_53_Pro.jpg)
During storage the locking arm helps create a small area under the upper deck useful for storing the mouse, cables, and my palm rest. 

(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p318/UberDrummer/WP_20140717_20_29_10_Pro.jpg)
Since the hinge protrudes from the bottom surface, I added nylon furniture feet to the bottom to prevent scratches on my coffee table. 
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 02:56 AM - 07/18/14
Here is how well the controller fixation works. Again the lapdesk is standing vertical. I don't have a good fixation for the Orbweaver. Will have to look for a magnet like Kodrain said but screwable or its whats stronger glue or magnet every time you take it off and the glue will loose eventually if its not Epoxy.
Just try to avoid the rubberband fixation, its fiddly and annoying.

(http://www11.pic-upload.de/18.07.14/ltn7j6jlv4q.gif)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 03:46 AM - 07/18/14
bought these for the orbweaver hope they are strong enough when fixated inside and a 2mm layer of plastic is in between.


(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/10-x-Neodym-Magnete-mit-Senkung-D-14-mm-Senkungsmagnet-mit-Loch-Bohrung-/00/s/NTcwWDU3MA==/z/qfMAAOSwwNVTtS3i/$_12.JPG)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Gauvreaum on 08:45 AM - 07/18/14
Would love to show off mine here, but how do I post pictures on this thread ahah


Cheers!
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 09:02 AM - 07/18/14
upload your pictures to a picture host and post the link it spits out as

Code: [Select]
[img]put link here[/img]
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 09:17 AM - 07/18/14
use imageshack or something like that
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Gauvreaum on 09:24 AM - 07/18/14
So here is mine all done, haven't fixated all the fun stuff, as I'm still trying to figure out the best solution. Big thanks to Gduck for the template and Roads for the input. Worked great. (Seriously you brought me back to Grade 9 Geometry class!) I went with a different support system as you can see and I am very happy with it. So instead of on your lap, it sits over so legs don't touch it. I game on a sofa so this is ideal for me anyways. And I suck/hate painting so any tips/improvements over all would be appreciated (went with a stain on top, black on bottom). 

And the images don't seem to be working for me. So here is the imgur link.

https://imgur.com/a/2ZNRB
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 09:44 AM - 07/18/14
Looks good and nut heating solved. Wont the feet damage the leather? If I would build it again I thing I would go with magnets placed in the controller instead of the rumbles. Dont do rubberbands they suck.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Gauvreaum on 09:47 AM - 07/18/14
I'm going to go with a strip of felt on the bottoms. So magnets eh? That's a really good idea actually. Just hot glue em on or what?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:29 AM - 07/18/14
If you hotglue them they will come off eventually. Look for screwables like the one picture I posted above. That one holds 2Kg if directly connected.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 02:42 PM - 07/18/14
Nice work guav! Looks pretty heavy duty.  Have you got a chance to play a few rounds on it?

I am waiting on XIM 4  to finalize version 2.0.   I have a joystick coming in that I am going to mod with teensy and may end up drilling more holes/moving things around.  Also, I am considering picking up a ps4.  The shape is spot on for me, and I wont be revising that. 

I will laminate the top of my next one for durability and also reconsider the memory foam on the bottom.  I think a more sturdy foam in the same configuration I currently use would work well, if not better.  Memory foam is starting to go flat on me. 
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 03:28 PM - 07/18/14
joystick integrated would be fun
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Gauvreaum on 03:32 PM - 07/18/14
Thanks man. And I don't know about the duty yet, but certainly is heavy. I got cheap/lazy and had some 3/4inch MDF in the garage....so ya she's a beast, not horribly portable, but @#$% sturdy. I'm torn between full keyboard and gaming pad still. So we shall see. I'm thinking going with velcro at this point to tie everything down, but I don't know yet. Might just sit it all on top of there so I can easily remove it and treat the wife to a breakfast in bed with this bad boy ahah. Dual purpose my friends. Happy wife, happy life (and by default gaming).
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 03:37 PM - 07/18/14
Velcro is if you hot-wax your lapdesk each time you play. 
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: solly on 02:38 PM - 07/21/14

after cutting and sanding.

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/280x200q90/536/4a7a87.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/536/4a7a87.jpg/)


After applying the plasti-dip to the lap desk, I did another coat after this and noticed I kind of sucked at applying it evenly. It was a humid and warm MN day yesterday when I did the project, and the product explicity warns against using it in high humidity. It was dry today, but I feel it still went on less evenly than I was hoping.

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/280x200q90/674/dd8165.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/674/dd8165.jpg/)

I don't think I'm totally done. I will put some cushion on the bottom and look at how to affix things in place.

Overall this was a fun little project so far and cost me about $20 US total for: MDF, a printout of the template (Reusable!) and a can of plasti-dip. Thanks Gduck for sharing the plans!



Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Serpent on 03:38 PM - 07/21/14
Nice Job :-)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 03:45 PM - 07/21/14
Good stuff! I think we are starting a couch gaming revolution! 

I havent ever seen that with the plasti dip.  Maybe it was the humidity?  Did you sand through the slick finish that comes factory on the mdf?  If so, mdf turns into a sponge and you will just have to put a few more coats on it.  Tell us how the test runs go when you get a chance.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:52 PM - 07/21/14
Nice work but you guys should try multiplex its thinner and stronger and looks less Ikea at the same weight.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: solly on 10:21 AM - 07/22/14
Good stuff! I think we are starting a couch gaming revolution! 

I havent ever seen that with the plasti dip.  Maybe it was the humidity?  Did you sand through the slick finish that comes factory on the mdf?  If so, mdf turns into a sponge and you will just have to put a few more coats on it.  Tell us how the test runs go when you get a chance.

I think that may be the issue, I didn't sand through all the factory MDF finish- its almost like a paper finish. I just very lightly sanded it -- roughed it up a bit.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 07:16 AM - 07/23/14
OK definitely go with magnets that can be screwed on for exeverything even the XIM4. Here are the magnets with the the orbweaver. Inside there is a great spot for the screw and below exactly enough space for both magnets. First I thought I need two magnets but the rubber feet of the Orb hinder it from turning. If Id redo the lapdesk I would do the controllers the same way. Its pervert how strong neodymium magnets are again the lapdesk is standing vertical.   

(http://www11.pic-upload.de/23.07.14/lqowl91qmbyt.jpg)

(http://www11.pic-upload.de/23.07.14/4qgio3658k64.jpg)

(http://www11.pic-upload.de/23.07.14/aylal84hj5l.gif)


Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 07:18 AM - 07/23/14
http://www.ebay.de/itm/201121666318?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

these are the magnets 4.8mm high.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Skurge on 07:23 PM - 07/24/14
Hey Roads.. Have you had any problems with the magnets breaking?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:30 PM - 07/24/14
No but I only screwed on 2/10.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: bmac009 on 05:17 AM - 07/25/14
Roads, where would you fit those under a N52te?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 05:31 AM - 07/25/14
For the N52te I would put the magnet inside, Even if you do not replace the internals you should find some room to glue it. The opposing magnet on the board must be submerged then with a drill. 1 magnet pair is easily enough to hold it even if inside.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: bmac009 on 05:39 AM - 07/25/14
For the N52te I would put the magnet inside, Even if you do not replace the internals you should find some room to glue it. The opposing magnet on the board must be submerged then with a drill. 1 magnet pair is easily enough to hold it even if inside.

nice didnt think about submerging...also whats the difference between the n35 and n38 and think there is n50?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 05:47 AM - 07/25/14
I have no idea, buy something that sticks :D My ones are made from Thors hammer so check the specs.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: bmac009 on 06:27 AM - 07/25/14
Haha funny thats on tv right now.  :)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 06:33 AM - 07/25/14
:D
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: KodRaiN on 02:44 AM - 07/26/14
So, I uh, see you guys decided to try magnets...

If you are looking for some versitality as far as adjusting the exact placement of whatever it is your are holding in place with magnets, try a steel plate on the lapdesk, and magnets on the bottom of the object. 

I just used velcro on my folding lapdesks.  I thought of using magnets on the one for my XIM, but since it is often stored right on top of my xbox I worry it could corrupt the HDD. 
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 02:58 AM - 07/26/14
Yeah wouldnít use Magnets near drives. I think steelplate doesnít look good but you give me the idea to make a metal lapdesk :D Other than that 2 magnets one submerged give *2 holding power and the place is defined and looks more tidied up.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Ehmien on 03:45 AM - 07/26/14
Also had the idea to make a lapdesk a while back, started working on it today.
Work in progress:
(http://i60.tinypic.com/1536ww7.jpg)
Made from  High presssure laminate, still waiting on my mouse 2 arrive then ill start thinking on how to finish it. Magnets sound awesome might go that way, and dunno about top layer paint yet want something cool, maybe a camouflage pattern, still thinking on how i want it hehe.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 03:56 AM - 07/26/14
Nice but one thing I dislike, the Gduck board has a rest for the lower arm, yours has not.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Ehmien on 04:02 AM - 07/26/14
Nice but one thing I dislike, the Gduck board has a rest for the lower arm, yours has not.
Its because off the couch i game on, i have a simple rectangle lapdesk without a rest now too, i rest my hand on the side of the seat. Like this: (http://i60.tinypic.com/24ersz4.jpg)

I like my lower arm to be positioned higher than the lapdesk itself, was thinking of making a raised arm rest for it but no need with my lounge sofa hehe.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 04:08 AM - 07/26/14
Ah OK that looks comfy if you play high sens.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Ehmien on 04:12 AM - 07/26/14
Yeah high sense all the way.

I m actually looking for retractable USB cables to use for the lapdesk. 1 for the PS4 controller so you can lift it while connected and 1 for connecting the XIm to the PS4. Would really help with the cable clutter and it looks neat hehe. Maybe an idea for other people too.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 04:17 AM - 07/26/14
I was looking for that also and there is none so spare yourself the search. Well maybe something new came out in the last half year but I doubt. You will have to invent them yourself. Spring and gearwheel on a stick and press down to release.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 07:18 AM - 07/26/14
Also had the idea to make a lapdesk a while back, started working on it today.
Work in progress:
(http://i60.tinypic.com/1536ww7.jpg)
Made from  High presssure laminate, still waiting on my mouse 2 arrive then ill start thinking on how to finish it. Magnets sound awesome might go that way, and dunno about top layer paint yet want something cool, maybe a camouflage pattern, still thinking on how i want it hehe.
Pretty modern styling on that lap desk. You might be abld to get away with leaving that one out on display. I like it but I need a place for my arms.  What is that keyboard? Do you like it?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Skurge on 06:06 PM - 07/26/14
man.. I came very close to buying on of those Wolfking Warrior keypads... I went with the G13 instead, but now seeing that sexy shiny red devil.. makes me have second thoughts.. but I have to stick to my guns now I guess..
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: KodRaiN on 07:20 PM - 07/26/14
G13 is a solid keypad other than the analog being in a horrible position, but I never use it.  I am one with the WSAD.  Seriously, though.  I've had mine since they launched in 2008.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Skurge on 08:16 PM - 07/26/14
Yeah I use WASD also..  I figure I'll just use the stick for selecting stuff. Time will tell, as I haven't tried it out yet. I'm sure I'll go through several setups, before I find one that works well for me. Going to start on one of those lapdesk thingys next week!  whoohoo!
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 11:28 PM - 07/26/14
Both the wolfskin and the G13 have terrible membrane keys. If you want a gamepad and Mittys finger orgasm you will need to get an Orbweaver or N52te and replace the keys with red Cherries. You find it how to in the tutorials and member project section.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Ehmien on 04:34 AM - 07/27/14
Pretty modern styling on that lap desk. You might be abld to get away with leaving that one out on display. I like it but I need a place for my arms.  What is that keyboard? Do you like it?
Its a Wolfking warrior, i like it so far! going to put it through the real test when the Xim4 arrives hehe.

man.. I came very close to buying on of those Wolfking Warrior keypads... I went with the G13 instead, but now seeing that sexy shiny red devil.. makes me have second thoughts.. but I have to stick to my guns now I guess..
I used to have a G13 but just couldnt get used to it, i like the placement of the keys and the feel a lot better with the Wolfking.

Both the wolfskin and the G13 have terrible membrane keys. If you want a gamepad and Mittys finger orgasm you will need to get an Orbweaver or N52te and replace the keys with red Cherries. You find it how to in the tutorials and member project section.
I know a lot of people like mechanicale keyboards but ive always used keyboards with  laptopkeys, i like it when they feel musshy and flat. The wolfking is in between, mushy- semi flat keys. My only grip with them is they are bit 2 smooth i want them to have some more grip. Ordered a couple of packs of Sugru to make my own grip caps hehe. like this:
http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/1f/72/35/1f7235f2cc113ae04511568b007b68b3.jpg
But a bit more aesthetic than how he did it..hopefully hehe.


Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Skurge on 06:29 AM - 07/27/14
Both the wolfskin and the G13 have terrible membrane keys. If you want a gamepad and Mittys finger orgasm you will need to get an Orbweaver or N52te and replace the keys with red Cherries. You find it how to in the tutorials and member project section.

Good point on the membrane vs mechanical keys, and I had given it serious thought. But in the end, I couldn't justify spending $130 for the Orb compared to $65 for the G13 considering how much game time I actually get. Which isn't really all that much since I work 6 days a week, and have family to deal with.  But who knows.. maybe sometime down the road, I'll spring for an Orb.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 06:35 AM - 07/27/14
You can get a N52te real cheap used.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: bmac009 on 07:46 PM - 07/28/14
I was looking for that also and there is none so spare yourself the search. Well maybe something new came out in the last half year but I doubt. You will have to invent them yourself. Spring and gearwheel on a stick and press down to release.

I was looking into this today, getting ready for the XIM4 to be shipped.
There is this, its in AUS but.... http://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/comsol-usb-2-0-retractable-cable-travel-kit-with-apple-adapter-1-2m-couc2cka01?searchTerm=USB

There is this on ebay - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/231289528799?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Thoughts??
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: bmac009 on 08:33 PM - 07/28/14
Actually this is the cable. Its a Micro USB correct??

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Retractable-Micro-USB-2-0-Data-Cable-Sync-Type-B-5-Pin-Mini-Male-Charger-/321155739182?pt=AU_CablesConnectors&hash=item4ac65fae2e
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:39 PM - 07/28/14
I have those, much too small to use for other cables, The drum is in the middle which sucks and its very short, too short from XIM to controller.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: bmac009 on 10:45 PM - 07/28/14
As in length? Is way to short? 1.8mtrs should be ok shouldn't?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:55 PM - 07/28/14
ahh you were faster see my edit. Is it really 1.8 have to check.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 11:03 PM - 07/28/14
Its only 80cm. 1.80 would be great.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: bmac009 on 11:39 PM - 07/28/14
Wouldn't it be from XIM to Console? Not controller...
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Ehmien on 11:52 PM - 07/28/14
The xim uses a normal USB cable doesnt it? Or is it micro ?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 01:32 AM - 07/29/14
Dunno how you setup I have a 15m Cable from XIM to console. Those micro cables are XIM to console, XIM to controller (in my case two). I don't get why you need a retractable one for something you dont have to take in your hand. The cable to the XIM can be folded and fixed under the lapdesk out of sight. You need some Velcro slings under the lapdesk.

XIM4 uses micro
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Ehmien on 04:48 AM - 07/29/14
Dunno how you setup I have a 15m Cable from XIM to console. Those micro cables are XIM to console, XIM to controller (in my case two). I don't get why you need a retractable one for something you dont have to take in your hand. The cable to the XIM can be folded and fixed under the lapdesk out of sight. You need some Velcro slings under the lapdesk.

XIM4 uses micro
Just like the idea of retractables more hehe..ZIP and its out..ZIP and its back in hehe.
Played a little bit with photoshop, going for the following Camo patern on the board:
(http://www.plaatjesdump.nl/upload/6675b9749a3f3fc9f7824cde6cbc7dcc.jpg)
Received my G502s yesterday, waiting for a package of Sugru to add some grip to the Wolfking keycaps. Ordered the Magnets Roads listed a page or 2 back, will fixate the keyboard with those + Ps4 controller. Going for Velcro for the Xim4 and just need to think of something for the G502.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 05:30 AM - 07/29/14
The 502 works well as I did you just dont need that botom piece. The magnets I bought would also fit the weight slot.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: ph1aak on 07:16 AM - 07/29/14
I am going to home depot today and buying a sheet of MDF and the coating spray. Then, I'm going to kinkos to print out the template. Anyone know if they can handle this file format on the googledrive?

try this pdf - page size is "Arch E"

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-J6TE8MFwtCdnMtcGtiU1RXSVE/edit?usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-J6TE8MFwtCdnMtcGtiU1RXSVE/edit?usp=sharing)

Is this a full scale PDF of the template? I opened it and it didn't appear to be to scale.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 07:24 AM - 07/29/14
MDF again :( another Ikea board.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 11:38 AM - 07/29/14
Is this a full scale PDF of the template? I opened it and it didn't appear to be to scale.

It is.  Make sure on your print options (adobe PDF) you choose paper size "architectural E" or just "E".  Also make sure the box for actual size is checked, and not fit to page. 

That should get you going.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 12:03 PM - 07/29/14
MDF again :( another Ikea board.

I think your biased because you just have access to the good stuff. :)

The multiplex you have used is what we used to call "Russian" or "Baltic" Birch Plywood and comes from europe or somewhere near your neighborhood.  It's got about twice as many plys as traditional plywood and I have not seen it at our home depots or lowes.  It also has less voids, is much more flat, and less prone to warping.  It also comes in 5'x5' sheets which is retarded as you can barely reach both ends to pick it up.  We used to use it in our cabinet shop for drawers and some partitions.  If I build v2.0 I may use it because of its light weight, but I will still laminate.

I still recommend mdf to the guys state side that cant get the higher quality plywood.  The stuff at home depot with 4 or 5 plys is not the same.  You could probably find a cabinet shop near you and buy some from them.  Most carpenters are pretty cool guys. ;)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Ehmien on 12:49 PM - 07/29/14
MDF again :( another Ikea board.

I think your biased because you just have access to the good stuff. :)

The multiplex you have used is what we used to call "Russian" or "Baltic" Birch Plywood and comes from europe or somewhere near your neighborhood.  It's got about twice as many plys as traditional plywood and I have not seen it at our home depots or lowes.  It also has less voids, is much more flat, and less prone to warping.  It also comes in 5'x5' sheets which is retarded as you can barely reach both ends to pick it up.  We used to use it in our cabinet shop for drawers and some partitions.  If I build v2.0 I may use it because of its light weight, but I will still laminate.

I still recommend mdf to the guys state side that cant get the higher quality plywood.  The stuff at home depot with 4 or 5 plys is not the same.  You could probably find a cabinet shop near you and buy some from them.  Most carpenters are pretty cool guys. ;)

True hehe, nothing wrong with MDF. Most people actually used that. I was just lucky i could get a piecce of HPL from work..but to be honest MDF would have been just as good (costs litterly 20 times less :P)hehe.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 01:46 PM - 07/29/14
But in the end, I couldn't justify spending $130 for the Orb compared to $65 for the G13 considering how much game time I actually get. Which isn't really all that much since I work 6 days a week, and have family to deal with. 

Sounds like somebody needs to get their priorities straight.  Ramen for dinner a few weeks in a row, cheaper toilet paper and you are all set!  I bet you are probably getting too much sleep too. You will still be somewhat functional on 3-5 hours a night.  Hell, I don't think Roads sleeps at all, and he still has a job.  Might as well invest in a high dollar set of headphones and then you can play all night without disturbing the minions.

But seriously, I'm just messing around.  One of the things I like about xim and the guys around here is that most of us are in a similar situation.  Are there any stats to the demographics of this board? I bet a dollar its 85% married male 29-36 years old.  Between minecraft and XIM I am training a 7 year old assassin at my house, so there may be a younger crop of XIMmers in a few years.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 02:04 PM - 07/29/14
OK I didnít know you dont have easy access to multiplex. Its mostly Bich tree.
Nothing I use is justified by my game time. It just makes fun.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: ak-xs on 05:02 PM - 07/29/14
But in the end, I couldn't justify spending $130 for the Orb compared to $65 for the G13 considering how much game time I actually get. Which isn't really all that much since I work 6 days a week, and have family to deal with. 

Sounds like somebody needs to get their priorities straight.  Ramen for dinner a few weeks in a row, cheaper toilet paper and you are all set!  I bet you are probably getting too much sleep too. You will still be somewhat functional on 3-5 hours a night.  Hell, I don't think Roads sleeps at all, and he still has a job.  Might as well invest in a high dollar set of headphones and then you can play all night without disturbing the minions.

But seriously, I'm just messing around.  One of the things I like about xim and the guys around here is that most of us are in a similar situation.  Are there any stats to the demographics of this board? I bet a dollar its 85% married male 29-36 years old.  Between minecraft and XIM I am training a 7 year old assassin at my house, so there may be a younger crop of XIMmers in a few years.

there are stats and you are right on the money... heck, i'm single 26yo still studying (yeah, i'm lazy and stuff happens) but i do have to deal with household problems and even i have lack of time and still game a few hours too much a week. though in my case it varies from period of months to another. sometimes i go on gaming strike to move to a going out spree, then the reverse..
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: ak-xs on 05:03 PM - 07/29/14
Nothing I use is justified by my game time. It just makes fun.

you just can't stand not having something be better if it can be, can't you?  :P
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:06 PM - 07/29/14
The stuff around my favourite toy is evolving.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:56 AM - 07/30/14
found a cord retractor
http://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://media.onsugar.com/files/2010/01/03/0/192/1922507/9bc5adb227de33b5_slingback.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.geeksugar.com/Sling-Back-Cord-Retractor-Keeps-Your-Cables-Organized-7161341&h=291&w=550&tbnid=i85UnqJuWzEnDM:&zoom=1&tbnh=90&tbnw=170&usg=__qb7iY_5LSCnKtz0fXVdZtBkoadE=&docid=obaY7j5XPyc5KM&client=firefox-a&sa=X&ei=RiPZU9qLGonj4QTxgoDQAw&ved=0CD8Q9QEwAg&dur=8957
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: SLAYR on 08:24 PM - 07/30/14
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/150x100q90/537/39SsM2.jpg) (http://imageshack.com/f/ex39SsM2j)

Here is the start of mine. Still have some cutting to do on the bottom.  Modified the top just a tad.

Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 08:34 PM - 07/30/14
Pic came thru small, but looking good
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Ehmien on 04:25 AM - 07/31/14
found a cord retractor
http://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://media.onsugar.com/files/2010/01/03/0/192/1922507/9bc5adb227de33b5_slingback.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.geeksugar.com/Sling-Back-Cord-Retractor-Keeps-Your-Cables-Organized-7161341&h=291&w=550&tbnid=i85UnqJuWzEnDM:&zoom=1&tbnh=90&tbnw=170&usg=__qb7iY_5LSCnKtz0fXVdZtBkoadE=&docid=obaY7j5XPyc5KM&client=firefox-a&sa=X&ei=RiPZU9qLGonj4QTxgoDQAw&ved=0CD8Q9QEwAg&dur=8957
Nice going to look into that if my retractable USB cables from Dx.com dont work out hehe.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 05:44 AM - 07/31/14
post pic or video please
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Ehmien on 06:03 AM - 07/31/14
post pic or video please
Will do once they arrive.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: KodRaiN on 07:56 AM - 07/31/14
How long of a retractable cable are we talking here?  I've found plenty that are 2-3 feet.  Surely that's enough for lifting your controller off the desk?

On my folding Xim Desk I gave my controller about 4 feet of cord and bound the rest up under where the controller sits.  Most of the time I have about 2 of that 4 feet bound up with a smaller Velcro cable tie.  When I stow the desk away I use the same tie to bundle up all the slack and the cable to the console. 

My experience with retractable cables is that they last a year, tops.  Rolling and unrolling takes its toll on the cables and if not that, the springs wear out. 
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Techrival on 11:32 PM - 07/31/14
Albeit not as functional as Gduck and Roads' setups.. I think this is relevant: http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/peripherals/input-devices/keyboards/roccat-sova-1253544/review

..I searched the boards for 'sova' and nothing popped up.. I was kinda surprised.

Anyway, I'm still going to do my own lapdesk and I have a few ideas that I think will be nice touches to my setup. At this point though.. I can't think of a better base idea than what Gduck and Roads have been showing off. You guys win in my honest opinion but I think a few people will want to utilize some of the ideas I employ once I have something to show off. Peace.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 11:36 PM - 07/31/14
Credit goes to Gduck I just offered some fixing methods and non-Ikea wood :D
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Techrival on 11:47 PM - 07/31/14
Credit goes to Gduck I just offered some fixing methods and non-Ikea wood :D

..and they're good ideas. I was wondering if there were any good plastic substitutes to utilize that still had enough strength for what we need and less weight than the wood everyone's using. Unfortunately I don't know where to look for this stuff yet here in Japan.. we don't really have a Home Depot or Lowes here heh.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 02:29 AM - 08/01/14
Bamboo Lapdesk, would look cool :D
You have Carpenters no?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Techrival on 03:25 AM - 08/01/14
Haha ya I'm sure they do. I'm only here for a few more years. I don't think id like a bamboo lap desk so much.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Ehmien on 03:58 AM - 08/01/14
Received my Laminated Vynil sticker \o/ Went for a camo color combo which would fit my Wolfking warrior + Nova pad, red all the way baby. Also finished "modding" the wolfking with Sugru for extra grip. Gonna put on the sticker tonight and after thats it's waiting for the xim too arrive.
(http://www.plaatjesdump.nl/upload/57dc47786959cee6b925d8c94fc691e1.jpg)
(http://www.plaatjesdump.nl/upload/510a09c38aa8280fbe7048c36ed58a12.jpg)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 04:26 AM - 08/01/14
You've got odd socks on.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Ehmien on 04:28 AM - 08/01/14
You've got odd socks on.
Lol, it's just the lightning =)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 05:02 AM - 08/01/14
You've got odd socks on.
Lol, it's just the lightning =)

yea yea ::)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: bmac009 on 05:16 AM - 08/01/14
You've got odd socks on.

 :D haha
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 05:41 AM - 08/01/14
You've got odd socks on.
Hah!

Was that a custom sticker? Where did you get it? Can you heat it and get it to go around the board like shrink wrap?

I think a cnc'd huge cutting board like kod's material would be the most durable and possibly most cost effective .  Wonder if you could contact that manufacture direct.  Tell them you're cutting up a whole cow or something.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Ehmien on 05:45 AM - 08/01/14
NExt time ill wear pink socks :P

Yeah custom sticker, made the camo pattern in photoshop took like 10min. This 1 you cant wrap it's a normal laminated vinyl sticker, i had the option for a wrap but have no experience with that hehe.
Got it from an online sticker printer (dutch website: www.promosign.nl) was like 55bucks, couldnt find it any cheaper over here.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: KodRaiN on 05:54 AM - 08/01/14
http://www.webstaurantstore.com/ is where I get my cutting board.  A while back I looked into industrial cutting board stock like you see at Subway behind the counter.  http://www.cuttingboardcompany.com/ but I tried a custom 24"x36"x1/2" and it was $104 in the cart :o.  I'm using 1/2 inch for strength, and it is quite heavy.  Strong stuff, though. 
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 06:28 AM - 08/01/14
You've got odd socks on.
Lol, it's just the lightning =)

Funny the background is ALWAYS very interestig isnt it hahaha
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Ehmien on 06:35 AM - 08/01/14

Funny the background is ALWAYS very interestig isnt it hahaha
I received those magnets from Germany you linked. Bad @#$% little magnets! Unbelievably strong for such little things.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: ak-xs on 06:55 AM - 08/01/14
http://www.webstaurantstore.com/ is where I get my cutting board.  A while back I looked into industrial cutting board stock like you see at Subway behind the counter.  http://www.cuttingboardcompany.com/ but I tried a custom 24"x36"x1/2" and it was $104 in the cart :o.  I'm using 1/2 inch for strength, and it is quite heavy.  Strong stuff, though.

Kod man, your avatar is just mesmerizing.. that's the coolest thing i've seen this week, maybe in the whole month at least! kudos multiplier bonus!
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: KodRaiN on 08:32 AM - 08/01/14
I've been on a .gif binge lately.  saving a bunch.  I'll be changing them/caption weekly. 
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 08:44 AM - 08/01/14

Funny the background is ALWAYS very interestig isnt it hahaha
I received those magnets from Germany you linked. Bad @#$% little magnets! Unbelievably strong for such little things.

Yeah crazy lil fockers.


Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 08:46 AM - 08/01/14
Here we go the first Gduck XM4 lapdesk up and running.

(http://www11.pic-upload.de/01.08.14/pczaijka9m35.jpg)

(http://www11.pic-upload.de/01.08.14/zufl3qlfni9v.jpg)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Gauvreaum on 09:14 AM - 08/01/14
Hey Roads, that SOny Gold headset, I was going to get one. Do you like it? Does it have Mic as well?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 09:34 AM - 08/01/14
Here we go the first Gduck XM4 lapdesk up and running.

(http://www11.pic-upload.de/01.08.14/pczaijka9m35.jpg)

(http://www11.pic-upload.de/01.08.14/zufl3qlfni9v.jpg)
Sweet! I suppose you use the hub because you are using 2 systems?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: ak-xs on 10:39 AM - 08/01/14
roads that looks really good. i'm not a fan of white even but that's beside the point..
Gduck is the man as far as desks go.


i'll be using some of the ideas discussed on the thread but, i have another kind of desk as i game in bed so that's solved already.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:52 AM - 08/01/14
its silver
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: SLAYR on 12:11 PM - 08/01/14
Looks good Roads. I'll post up mine when it's finished.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: ak-xs on 06:56 PM - 08/01/14
its silver

LOL you are right and it's easy to notice even. i think i need glasses, not even joking. VR will be a pain.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:59 PM - 08/01/14
Get contacts less nerdy look :)
(dont answer we are not going off topic here)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Skurge on 02:16 PM - 08/03/14
Here we go the first Gduck XM4 lapdesk up and running.

(http://www11.pic-upload.de/01.08.14/pczaijka9m35.jpg)

(http://www11.pic-upload.de/01.08.14/zufl3qlfni9v.jpg)


looks good man!  what did you use to secure the mouse pad?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 02:32 PM - 08/03/14
4 hotglue drops
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: mist4fun on 03:20 PM - 08/03/14
Looks nice
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: ph1aak on 07:05 AM - 08/04/14
Here is my lap desk that I built this past weekend. I haven't painted it yet and hope the weather will allow me to soon. GDuck, thank you for sharing your design with the community! It's perfect!!

(http://s10.postimg.org/6rjq4te55/0803142057.jpg)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:22 AM - 08/04/14
Thatís thin, is that Multiplex?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 10:46 AM - 08/04/14
Here is my lap desk that I built this past weekend. I haven't painted it yet and hope the weather will allow me to soon. GDuck, thank you for sharing your design with the community! It's perfect!!

Welcome! Looks good!

Thatís thin, is that Multiplex?
If it smells like popsicle sticks and has 10-12 plys it is. :P  I am going to pick up some baltic birch while I am back home this weekend at the cabinet shop so that I can make one out of it so roads won't be alone.  Lol.  Outside of laminate on top, I dont think I will change much.  I have been rough on the paint on mine. 
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 11:04 AM - 08/04/14
Go Neodymium magnets! If Id do again I would magnet everything except the XIM4 and mousepad.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: ph1aak on 11:53 AM - 08/04/14
Thatís thin, is that Multiplex?

Yes, 1/2" birch plywood
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 12:10 PM - 08/04/14
Awesome, good boy :D
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: SLAYR on 06:40 PM - 08/04/14
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/150x100q90/536/1GThCF.jpg) (http://imageshack.com/f/ew1GThCFj)

Here is the painted mdf one I started with my new xim4 on it. But now im making a 1/2 inch birch plywood one. I can already see the edges of the mdf one getting damaged. Mdf one will become my test one for hole locations and things I may want to try out.

Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Jossers on 06:35 PM - 08/05/14
For those amongst us without the necessary equipment to achieve such a quality product, can I suggest that a good quality shelf obtained from any reasonable hardware store could be utilised.

I have purchased a Melamine 900mm x 300mm x 16mm shelf ($13) and will visit a foam cutting store get some memory foam cut to dimension.  Then its just a case of covering and attaching the foam to the underside of the shelf.

I like the idea of fixing the controller etc to the desk using an elasticated band, so may use this, however I was also thinking of getting the wife to run up a bag made out of the same material as the foam covering to hold everything (controller/cables/XIM4)

Thoughts?

Steve
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 06:51 PM - 08/05/14
For those amongst us without the necessary equipment to achieve such a quality product, can I suggest that a good quality shelf obtained from any reasonable hardware store could be utilised.

I have purchased a Melamine 900mm x 300mm x 16mm shelf ($13) and will visit a foam cutting store get some memory foam cut to dimension.  Then its just a case of covering and attaching the foam to the underside of the shelf.

I like the idea of fixing the controller etc to the desk using an elasticated band, so may use this, however I was also thinking of getting the wife to run up a bag made out of the same material as the foam covering to hold everything (controller/cables/XIM4)

Thoughts?

Steve
Almost same price gets you twice the area if you buy the 2'x4' 1/2" material.  It will be lighter and more balanced too. If you don't have, or know someone with a jig saw, buy a coping saw from harbor freight (5$) and do work.  It will be worth it
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: KodRaiN on 08:03 PM - 08/05/14
lol, I bought a $500 DeWalt scroll saw just to make my folding lapdesks. 

But hey, now I have a nice $500 DeWalt scroll saw, and I sure do love making things. 
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 08:29 PM - 08/05/14
lol, I bought a $500 DeWalt scroll saw just to make my folding lapdesks. 

But hey, now I have a nice $500 DeWalt scroll saw, and I sure do love making things.
This is the way you do it. 
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: araman on 08:43 PM - 08/05/14
I am so far only able to locate 3/4" birch plywood, would this be ok, or too thick/bulky?

http://www.menards.com/main/building-materials/panel-products/specialty-panels/hardwood-plywood/3-4-classic-birch-plywood-wood-veneer-core/p-1480808-c-13334.htm
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Skurge on 08:49 PM - 08/05/14
lol, I bought a $500 DeWalt scroll saw just to make my folding lapdesks. 

But hey, now I have a nice $500 DeWalt scroll saw, and I sure do love making things.
This is the way you do it. 

Amen brother!    I have one in the works as well.. Just waiting for the Xim to arrive STILL!! So I can finish the placement of everything.. then get it all painted up nice and shiny!  Will post pics when its done.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: KodRaiN on 08:51 PM - 08/05/14
I am so far only able to locate 3/4" birch plywood, would this be ok, or too thick/bulky?

http://www.menards.com/main/building-materials/panel-products/specialty-panels/hardwood-plywood/3-4-classic-birch-plywood-wood-veneer-core/p-1480808-c-13334.htm

That's probably overkill.  I just did a Google products search for 1/2" Birch plywood and it yielded tons of results, even some 2'x4' pieces. 

here's one:

http://www.njsupply.com/12-24X48-Birch-Plywood_p_66988.html
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 09:42 PM - 08/05/14
lol, I bought a $500 DeWalt scroll saw just to make my folding lapdesks. 

But hey, now I have a nice $500 DeWalt scroll saw, and I sure do love making things. 
And hey you can make lapdesks!

Bought a 250$ Jig and spend 200$ on the pro car paint. You can even think about giving the job to a carpenter to have a perfect birch multiplex one.
Just yesterday I thought, man is this f*cking comfortable.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: KodRaiN on 09:51 PM - 08/05/14
I think every major tool I've ever purchased has been for some < $100 project.  Dremmel, radial arm saw, router, planer, drum sander, lathe...
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 09:53 PM - 08/05/14
Yeah itís the best part of the projects :D. Hey honey I *HAVE* to buy the jig!
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: KodRaiN on 09:56 PM - 08/05/14
Then once you have the tools you have to start inventing projects. 
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:08 PM - 08/05/14
And buy other tools. Speaking of tools. This one is really worth it if you dont have and want a pro workbench. I built my speakers and the lapdesk with it. Its great. Crocklock.

http://www.youtube.com/v/5J618Kcvx4c&hd=1
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 10:25 PM - 08/05/14
Then once you have the tools you have to start inventing projects.
Exactly.  We are "saving"  money,  just like our wives do when they go shopping...

My welder had paid for itself 5 times.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Techrival on 12:37 AM - 08/06/14
And buy other tools. Speaking of tools. This one is really worth it if you dont have and want a pro workbench. I built my speakers and the lapdesk with it. Its great. Crocklock.

http://www.youtube.com/v/5J618Kcvx4c&hd=1


Uhh.. I want it, now. Give it to me. Because I want it..

Seriously though, I'm going to see if I can find that here in Japan. I feel like I've been bitten by the Bob Vila bug and now I must create stuff.. good times.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 12:44 AM - 08/06/14
That thing is one of the best tools I bought.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: araman on 08:44 AM - 08/06/14
I am so far only able to locate 3/4" birch plywood, would this be ok, or too thick/bulky?

http://www.menards.com/main/building-materials/panel-products/specialty-panels/hardwood-plywood/3-4-classic-birch-plywood-wood-veneer-core/p-1480808-c-13334.htm
Any other opinions on using this for material?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: KodRaiN on 09:17 AM - 08/06/14
A high-grade hardwood plywood would easily be strong enough in 1/4" thickness, which would cut down on the weight.  I don't know where you live, but I have been able to find such a material in stores like Home Depot or Lowes.  Even probably Ace Hardware/True Value. 
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Ehmien on 09:18 AM - 08/06/14
I am so far only able to locate 3/4" birch plywood, would this be ok, or too thick/bulky?

http://www.menards.com/main/building-materials/panel-products/specialty-panels/hardwood-plywood/3-4-classic-birch-plywood-wood-veneer-core/p-1480808-c-13334.htm
Any other opinions on using this for material?
Would work fine, people use it for forniture etc so a simple lap desk should hold easily :P
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: solly on 01:18 PM - 08/06/14
I had so much fun making the lapdesk, I'm planning on making some other stuff -- adirondack chairs and a beverage cart for the patio. found some pretty simple plans for these, just need 2x2 and 2x4.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: SLAYR on 06:43 AM - 08/07/14
Here is my Birch plywood cut out. Took the router to the edges.....and put a nice round over on it all around. Will keep posting steps. Thanks again gduck for the template. I have tried out the MDF one i made......without the pillow. Played BF4 for 4 hours. I could see myself not even using the pillow. I felt just fine with out it.
 Will see. I'll try it with the pillow next. Looking forward to finishing the plywood one.


(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/280x200q90/742/pLO59k.jpg) (http://imageshack.com/f/kmpLO59kj)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 08:45 AM - 08/07/14
The pillow brings it up under your forearm to the perfect position. I really recommend a custom tailored one like I use. Its great. Magnets! I would do full magnets if id redo.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: araman on 07:50 PM - 08/07/14
The pillow brings it up under your forearm to the perfect position. I really recommend a custom tailored one like I use. Its great. Magnets! I would do full magnets if id redo.
What do you mean by "full" magnets?  I think I saw some of your posts about your experiments with magnets earlier, and I think one thing was taken for granted - would you have to pop open your DS4/XB1 controllers to get a magnet properly placed for the mounting to work?  Considering this route when I start my project, but am a little weary of this part.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 09:41 PM - 08/07/14
Yeah if Id redo the Gduck LD I would fixate everything with magnets maybe even the XIM. Velcro likes to come off as the Velcro is sometimes stringer than the glue-stripe especially when it already came off once. Magnets are so clean. Heavy things like the Orbweaver or the controllers fixate with two magnets, lighter stuff like the android phone can be held by a metal washer hot-glued to the phone.
The controllers are a special case and I am not sure what is the best way, you will have to try. What would work for sure is to cut and remove the rumble and glue a magnet in its place. But it also could work to screw or even Sugru a magnet to the bottom centre. Yeah maybe thatís the best and doesnít involve opening it. Two magnets even fit and you don't have to embed the magnet on the lapdesk. Make pictures for sure if you do it.   
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 05:46 AM - 08/08/14
I mean it like this, Sugru under it and the two screwable magnets. If you place this on the table and press down it will have the exact hight you need. After the Sugru has dried you remove a magnet and fix it on the Gduck. I have no Idea if the Sugru will withstand the 4Kg force the two magnets produce. We will see in 12 hours. The white washer will go between Gduck and the magnet.
 
(http://www11.pic-upload.de/08.08.14/i2l8p1iwosn.jpg)
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Post by: ph1aak on 07:44 AM - 08/08/14
Yeah if Id redo the Gduck LD I would fixate everything with magnets maybe even the XIM. Velcro likes to come off as the Velcro is sometimes stringer than the glue-stripe especially when it already came off once. Magnets are so clean. Heavy things like the Orbweaver or the controllers fixate with two magnets, lighter stuff like the android phone can be held by a metal washer hot-glued to the phone.
The controllers are a special case and I am not sure what is the best way, you will have to try. What would work for sure is to cut and remove the rumble and glue a magnet in its place. But it also could work to screw or even Sugru a magnet to the bottom centre. Yeah maybe thatís the best and doesnít involve opening it. Two magnets even fit and you don't have to embed the magnet on the lapdesk. Make pictures for sure if you do it.   

How are you combating the issue of having magnets near electronics?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: KodRaiN on 07:57 AM - 08/08/14
Magnets are really only an issue with magnetic hard drives, and only if they come within a few inches.  I've seen tons of electronics in fancy packaging with a cover that "clacks" shut with magnets. 
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 01:20 AM - 08/09/14
Yeah check the Ipad. Never heard of misfunctions and the magnets are pretty strong.

I wanna give update on the Sugru/magnets above. The PS4 sugruing seems to hold, the surface is not as smooth as the Xbox controller. The Xbox sugru came off after about 5 connects. Its really a tough connect its like lifting a 4Kg weight so its a lot of stress on the sugru bond. The controller is held well in place for sure like a velcroing. I feel you need to screw the magnets on, Sugru can be used to be the placeholder and lift the magnets to the correct position. Not a problem on the Xbox controller as itís the battery closure. The PS4 I have no Idea yet where to put the screw to but it will be necessary to remove the pcb and look for room for a M3 washer and  boltnut. The magnets could go instead of the rumbles which would be easy but that I cant try as I dont want to drill more holes into my board. Also on magnet alone lets the controller turn on the board which can scratch the painting.
Ahh dunno maybe I will drill more holes... :)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 01:42 AM - 08/09/14
OK found super easy way for ONE controller, you just need a thick plastic washer, I think this was for TV space holder for wall mount.  Controller handles are slightly raised so wont scratch. The battery lid is strong enough. Dunno if I can still place batteries but don't care really. This seems like a really good solution for the ONE controller.

http://www.youtube.com/v/J-lR8J3uc7o&hd=1
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Techrival on 01:43 AM - 08/09/14
Vid is private.
Title: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Techrival on 01:45 AM - 08/09/14
Working now :) ..very clean btw
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: KodRaiN on 02:30 AM - 08/09/14
I just added magnets to my web surfing lapdesk (stained oak and cutting board combo) to keep the mouse in place when I'm moving it.  After about a week, no problems.  5/16" dia. magnets, one countersunk into the oak, one glued in the battery enclosure of the K750 mouse.  Roughed up all glued surfaces (including magnets) with a file, and no issues with them coming loose. 

one possible controller solution would be to have some sort of raised, maybe inch-wide rail with a magnetic surface on the top, and put the magnets directly on the bottom of the controllers/in the batery cover.  kind of a "if you can't bring him to the mountains..." sort of thing.  Similar to how I have the controller held up on my red lapdesk. 
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 03:34 AM - 08/09/14
So you haven seen my youtube video some posts before did you? Glueing is OK until the glue holds. Its not forever if you dont use Epoxy and thatís dirty work.

Here is in my opinion the only point you can have a screw inside the DS4 to fixate the magnet.

(http://www11.pic-upload.de/09.08.14/1f34ay7u6hlv.jpg)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: KodRaiN on 03:51 AM - 08/09/14
I did three things to make sure the magnet in the lapdesk would stay put.  First, I drilled a hole the exact same diameter as the magnet, and same depth as the magnet was thick.  Next, I scratched up the bottom of the magnet to provide extra surface area for the glue to bond to, and finally, I dremmeled around the top edge of the magnet to give its side profile a trapezoidal shape:
__   ____  ___
    |/____\|

so that the glue around the edges acts like a sort of wedge. 

And I did use Gorilla glue epoxy. 

So, little magnet,
(http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y401/mfisherfitness/tumblr_leb0kmYHJj1qfweiyo1_r1_500_zps5e78ea04.gif)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 03:54 AM - 08/09/14
Yeah that magnet wont go anywhere soon but its better to screw them. Also the fixation problem is not on the lapdesk but the controller.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: KodRaiN on 04:49 AM - 08/09/14
yup, and the best option there is screwing or getting inside them.

(http://image.spreadshirt.com/image-server/v1/designs/12244944,width=178,height=178/Mr.-Bean---If-you-know-what-I-mean.png)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 04:53 AM - 08/09/14
Yes, but please show how the controller looks with the Gorilla glue.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 09:16 AM - 08/09/14
I request an [AWESOME] for this thread.

Yeah the drill-hole place works fine, didnít try with the battery but its unnecessary for the XIM anyway. I think it would fit though. Itís a very simple modification there is even a plastic point marking where to drill. I really recommend fixation like this. So clean.

http://www.youtube.com/v/25l2tAU_UAQ&hd=1
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Skurge on 09:27 AM - 08/09/14
Video is private?!?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 09:38 AM - 08/09/14
again? one sec...
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: ak-xs on 10:30 AM - 08/09/14
again? one sec...

i can see it fine?!

have you changed the battery on any of your PS4 controllers roads?
 i'm planning on doing it when cash starts to be more common than unicorns (xmas!) as the capacity on the stock is garbage.

Sony: "hey guys, let's fu*k everyone that was fine with out controller's charge duration. what? charging $5 more per controller or make a longer lasting special model?? what are we, Samsung? nah, let's make those jumping from 360 to our new ship in particular pay! *audience claps*"
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:40 AM - 08/09/14
I took the battery out itís a one minute thing, remove 4 screws, crack open at the handles and lift over the pins that have screwhole. Then waggle to the front. Catch the reset rubber. Thatís about it same for the magnet fixation.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Skurge on 07:06 AM - 08/10/14
I request an [AWESOME] for this thread.

Yeah the drill-hole place works fine, didnít try with the battery but its unnecessary for the XIM anyway. I think it would fit though. Itís a very simple modification there is even a plastic point marking where to drill. I really recommend fixation like this. So clean.

http://www.youtube.com/v/25l2tAU_UAQ&hd=1

What is the the black thing you have attached to the controller?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 07:16 AM - 08/10/14
Itís a TV wallmount spacer, it came with a wallmount. You can use whatever plastic tube in the size of your magnet. I just had it there and it was a fit.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Ehmien on 02:09 PM - 08/10/14
Finished my lapdesk today, pretty happy with it as it is. The xim and the keypad are fixated with Velcro. The micro usb cord of the controller is just long enough so I can lift it off and hold it in my hands while resting my handpalms on the board, when done with the lapdesk I unplug it and out it a chargedock I have.
Mousepad has a sticky bottom which seems to beholding just fine. tried camouflaging the holes where the cables come through hehe.

(http://www.plaatjesdump.nl/upload/f5d4b18e87ba815540fe8914b4a3c9a0.jpg)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 02:20 PM - 08/10/14
Very nice!
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Post by: toon on 02:42 PM - 08/10/14
Very sexy.....

Judging from the roll of toiletpaper I can tell you are very exited about XIM4. ;D

Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: chad20 on 05:07 PM - 08/10/14
I have been using a flat setup board that I use to setup my sons remote control cars. I have been thinking about making one of these but the one thing I don't like is how hot my legs get. What are you guys doing to help with the heat?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Skurge on 03:25 PM - 08/12/14
Here's mine.. Haven't finished the cable management yet. But that's next!

(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s283/The_Mighty_Skurge/lpd1.jpg)

(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s283/The_Mighty_Skurge/lpd2.jpg)

Big thanks goes out to Gduck !!
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Post by: gduck24 on 03:27 PM - 08/12/14
Nice job.  What's the paint? Almost looks plastic.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Skurge on 03:28 PM - 08/12/14
It's stone spray.. 2 coats, then 2 coats of clear sealer!
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: solly on 03:38 PM - 08/12/14
I have been using a flat setup board that I use to setup my sons remote control cars. I have been thinking about making one of these but the one thing I don't like is how hot my legs get. What are you guys doing to help with the heat?

memory foam pillow cut up into strips is the gduck solution
 another option would be a couple:  http://www.amazon.com/Cushie-Cushion-Pillow-Assorted-Colors/dp/B0007Z6PP2/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1407879455&sr=8-4&keywords=microbead+pillow
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Au1d Yin on 05:22 PM - 08/12/14
Here's mine.. Haven't finished the cable management yet. But that's next!

(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s283/The_Mighty_Skurge/lpd1.jpg)

(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s283/The_Mighty_Skurge/lpd2.jpg)

Big thanks goes out to Gduck !!

Looks really good ! ... surface finish resembles a Razer Destructor mousepad   :)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: araman on 09:02 AM - 08/13/14
It's stone spray.. 2 coats, then 2 coats of clear sealer!
very nice! how did you mount your periphs? velcro?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Skurge on 09:11 AM - 08/13/14
The G13 and DS4 are on with magnets... the xim is perched up on four 1/4" wooden dowel rods (as someone suggested in an earlier post).. the G502 removable bottom plate for weights is screwed through the mouse pad into the lapdesk.. (suggested by Roads). Just pop the mouse off and start shooting bad guys!
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 09:52 AM - 08/13/14
Anybody ever used these coiled usb cables?  http://www.amazon.com/Salom-Micro-uCable--Coil-USB/dp/B0098I8RIC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1407944614&sr=8-2&keywords=coil+usb+cable (http://www.amazon.com/Salom-Micro-uCable--Coil-USB/dp/B0098I8RIC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1407944614&sr=8-2&keywords=coil+usb+cable)

I'm going to order a few for the next board. I plan on building next week as I have trashed mine using it as a workstation.  Plastidip has not held up well to my abuse from soldering and gluing crap.  BTW, these make for pretty awesome lap desks for productivity too. You can put alot of crap on them and it's all very handy.

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/13/5781a4cbbc708ce97fee0f643e24108c.jpg)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:44 AM - 08/13/14
Not sure I would like those coiled cables Gduck they coil and get short but they are quite thick. Not sure if it looks good. Make some pics
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Skurge on 11:10 AM - 08/13/14
Here's what I'm using for cable management. . Haven't set it up yet... but I will post pics when it's done..
http://www.omnimount.com/products/omnimount_essentials/cable_management/oecms/
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 11:42 AM - 08/13/14
Nice I just wish it was available longer and much much cheaper. No... much much much cheaper.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 11:50 AM - 08/13/14
Gduck if you can get those holed Neodymiums, get them! Its absolutely perfect to fixate the controllers and Orbweaver. Really happy about it. First mount the magnets to the peripherals and then choose the plasce for the counter magnet.
What would be great is rubber wireways to close the holes.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 12:07 PM - 08/13/14
Gduck if you can get those holed Neodymiums, get them! Its absolutely perfect to fixate the controllers and Orbweaver. Really happy about it. First mount the magnets to the peripherals and then choose the plasce for the counter magnet.
What would be great is rubber wireways to close the holes.

ordered 12 magnets this morning.  It took me a while to find your link, but its all in gibberish.  I think I have found them in US.

Was literally about to type usb grommet into google.  I'll let you guys know what I find.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 12:12 PM - 08/13/14
Quote
but its all in gibberish

LOL you mean its German.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 12:29 PM - 08/13/14
Hah! I thought that might get your attention. Thankfully numbers do translate, so I'm pretty sure I got the same. My mother's maiden name is Guenzel (2nd gen US), so I get to make fun.
(http://imgur.com/OCOXMRr.jpg)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 01:48 PM - 08/13/14
Guenzel sounds Turkish?
Those magnets are amazing. They need M3 screws, M4 wont fit. Get them ahead in several lengths with M3 washers and bolt nuts.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: mist4fun on 02:55 PM - 08/13/14
Lol gduck. It goes both ways though.

(http://i.stack.imgur.com/TnUP4.jpg)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 06:56 PM - 08/13/14
Lmao! How come I can't just say pineapple, but instead scream it with a crazy German accent? Still doesn't sound nice with German tone. 

While I was in Chicago I sat next to a fairly hot chick on the subway that was speaking something close to German and it brought her down from a 9 to an 8. I guess if she was talking dirty to me it might have made her a 10!

Roads - we have been traced way back into Germany.  Unfortunately,  there is a distinct possibility that we may be cousins. Sorry about that.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: KodRaiN on 07:56 PM - 08/13/14
If you thought the Germans have some crazy words, Go read an Icelandic webpage. 

I have the suffix "V" at the end of my name, 2nd generation U.S. but I have family records dating back over 300 years in both Germany and Sweden. 
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 12:44 AM - 08/14/14
I thought of redoing this in perfection without any unnecessary drillhole but I wont, its OK as it is. My next project will be a cable channel. Now with those magnets it will be a very cool lid that just spaces for the cables by the magnets. Is there an easy to use carpenter design program for the mac?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 10:54 AM - 08/14/14
Channels where? On the desk?
Carpenter program? Like a 3d  type one I used? It's called a sketchup, and it's free. 
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 11:24 AM - 08/14/14
Ah OK will try Sketchup. Channel under TV behind lowboard. Imagine a wooden box you pull 5 meters long. Cables in there Xbox brick, HDMI splitters and stuff.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: SLAYR on 08:39 PM - 08/14/14
Ok here is my plywood lap desk. Still have to get a pillow.....and cord management. Keyboard is attached with magnets. Xim4 is attached with industrial Velcro. I don't attach the DS4 as I use it a lot to play coop and sports games with my daughter.

(http://imageshack.com/a/img539/1103/O4oulc.jpg)


(http://imageshack.com/a/img661/9246/wRy111.jpg)
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Post by: Techrival on 09:04 PM - 08/14/14
SLAYR, that is very cool man. Can you elaborate on it a little bit and give us some details? What kind of paint(s) or finishes used? Is the Xim4 sitting on a separate block? I like the two-tone look and noticed that the shape differs from Gducks original as well. Can you take a pic of the bottom so that we can see cable management? Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: SLAYR on 10:52 PM - 08/14/14
Still working on the cable management......have a couple ideas stirring in my head. Right now I just have it tie wrapped in the back. It has 3 coats of primer..........3 coats of satin black.........2 coats of green.........light spraying of metallic. And 2 coats of clear enamel to seal it. After each coat of primer and black were lightly sanded with 400 grit sandpaper.

Yes the xim is on a separate block attached by 4 small screws. The pattern is a little different. It is a little longer than gducks also.  His is 31 and 1/2 inches. Mine is  36 or 37 inches. It's 1/2 birch plywood.........used a round over bit on the edges.

All props  to gduck for the idea.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 11:07 PM - 08/14/14
Ok here is my plywood lap desk. Still have to get a pillow.....and cord management. Keyboard is attached with magnets. Xim4 is attached with industrial Velcro. I don't attach the DS4 as I use it a lot to play coop and sports games with my daughter.

(http://imageshack.com/a/img539/1103/O4oulc.jpg)


(http://imageshack.com/a/img661/9246/wRy111.jpg)
Nice.  I like the placement of the xim.  I don't use my controller at all and basically have mine permanently attached, but xim up top and controllers more accessible is smart.  Combine the magnet and closeness and guys with vehicle issues can grab it quick.

Grommets give some pro flair to it.  I've been searching and I think I will use some like what you see on the fire wall of vehicles.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 11:13 PM - 08/14/14
Thoughts for cleaning up the xim connections? (http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/14/bdc8b94af9bf5fd27b6dc06caf7a5942.jpg)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: SLAYR on 06:33 AM - 08/15/14
Thoughts for cleaning up the xim connections? (http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/14/bdc8b94af9bf5fd27b6dc06caf7a5942.jpg)

I think it could work with a proper mounting of the Xim.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: araman on 06:41 AM - 08/15/14
Gah, you guys are killing me - every time I think I'm ready to move to the next step (just getting done sanding the edges on my cutout) someone posts something that makes me want to drill some more holes for something instead of moving on to painting/sealing.  Also considering fashioning a cup/bottle holder right now, but not fully sold on the idea.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: SLAYR on 06:43 AM - 08/15/14
These are the magnets I used. Pick them up at Home Depot. Screwed the one side into the wood. I use gorilla glue to attach the other part to the keyboard.  I just used elastic stapled to the back side to hold the mouse. I will also say the birch plywood is a lot lighter than the MDF.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Techrival on 06:44 AM - 08/15/14

These are the magnets I used. Pick them up at Home Depot. Screwed the one side into the wood. I use gorilla glue to attach the other part to the keyboard.  I just used elastic stapled to the back side to hold the mouse. I will also say the birch plywood is a lot lighter than the MDF.

Pix?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 06:53 AM - 08/15/14
yeah multiplex weights same at half the thickness an three times the beauty. Screw both magnets if you can. Works with orbweaver and controllers.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: SLAYR on 06:54 AM - 08/15/14
Ok here is my plywood lap desk. Still have to get a pillow.....and cord management. Keyboard is attached with magnets. Xim4 is attached with industrial Velcro. I don't attach the DS4 as I use it a lot to play coop and sports games with my daughter.

(http://imageshack.com/a/img539/1103/O4oulc.jpg)


(http://imageshack.com/a/img661/9246/wRy111.jpg)
Nice.  I like the placement of the xim.  I don't use my controller at all and basically have mine permanently attached, but xim up top and controllers more accessible is smart.  Combine the magnet and closeness and guys with vehicle issues can grab it quick.

Grommets give some pro flair to it.  I've been searching and I think I will use some like what you see on the fire wall of vehicles.

The tops can be removed on those desk grommets. I picked those up from a local wood working store. Yeah I do use  the controller a bit. I'll be playing NHL 15 a ton with my daughter. Kind of been a console guy  for a long time.
Started playing BF series on PC around BFBC 2. Took me awhile to get use to KB/M. But now that I have. I can't play FPS on console anymore with a controller. Thank god for the xim. Otherwise I would not be able to play with my other group of friends playing BF on the conslole.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: SLAYR on 06:56 AM - 08/15/14

These are the magnets I used. Pick them up at Home Depot. Screwed the one side into the wood. I use gorilla glue to attach the other part to the keyboard.  I just used elastic stapled to the back side to hold the mouse. I will also say the birch plywood is a lot lighter than the MDF.

Pix?


Sorry......lol

http://t.homedepot.com/p/Master-Magnetic-16-lb-Pull-Rare-Earth-Magnetic-Latch-Kit-2-Piece-per-Pack-96454/203613162/
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: araman on 07:05 PM - 08/15/14
The tops can be removed on those desk grommets. I picked those up from a local wood working store. Yeah I do use  the controller a bit. I'll be playing NHL 15 a ton with my daughter. Kind of been a console guy  for a long time.
Started playing BF series on PC around BFBC 2. Took me awhile to get use to KB/M. But now that I have. I can't play FPS on console anymore with a controller. Thank god for the xim. Otherwise I would not be able to play with my other group of friends playing BF on the conslole.
What's the diameter on those grommets, and how did you do the cut for them?  Really like that implementation, looks good and am considering it myself.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: araman on 07:10 PM - 08/15/14
Also, what mousepad would you guys recommend for this setup?  Looking for something thin I can affix easy enough, don't really care about cost.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: doc911 on 07:17 PM - 08/15/14
Gotta make cup/bottle holder. Just gotta...
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 07:56 PM - 08/15/14
Gotta make cup/bottle holder. Just gotta...
I drink out of to many different glasses. It's very stable and I don't want to be stuck with a drink in one spot.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: SLAYR on 09:27 PM - 08/15/14
The tops can be removed on those desk grommets. I picked those up from a local wood working store. Yeah I do use  the controller a bit. I'll be playing NHL 15 a ton with my daughter. Kind of been a console guy  for a long time.
Started playing BF series on PC around BFBC 2. Took me awhile to get use to KB/M. But now that I have. I can't play FPS on console anymore with a controller. Thank god for the xim. Otherwise I would not be able to play with my other group of friends playing BF on the conslole.
What's the diameter on those grommets, and how did you do the cut for them?  Really like that implementation, looks good and am considering it myself.


Grommets are 2" on the left........2"under the Xim........and 1" on the right for the mouse. I used hole saw. You could also use spade bits.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 01:02 PM - 08/19/14
thought of putting Xim there but it blinks like poolice car. Sorry watched The Wire lately. You feel me? lol
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 05:17 PM - 08/23/14
http://www.youtube.com/v/iULPoLDg-m0&hd=1

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/23/a4aea5c83bbbab2ab8c54afb2c38d111.jpg)

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/23/179da37ed6be4680d43302df241bb2ee.jpg)

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/23/52475cdc5ea07c27f2960ad4d7927e62.jpg)
Title: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 09:32 PM - 08/23/14
That is awesome and yeah covering the magnets with the laminate seems perfect! Its super tidy.
The telephone cable just needs a much smaller hole just as wide as the cable its a great solution much better than I thought. I have the feeling I don't want to perforate the laminate at all dunno. Love the new more batman like shape. Can we please have the measurements? No handle hole is not bad.
Title: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 09:34 PM - 08/23/14
What cant be magnetized has to go below don't Velcro imho
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 09:40 PM - 08/23/14
Yea,  that one hole is it,  besides the slots for 90 degree usb under.  Prolly could have done a slightly smaller hole on the coiled cable, but not by much,  the ends are fairly large.  It's hidden pretty good  by the controller.  I'm pleased.  The magnets are really surprising.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 09:40 PM - 08/23/14
Shape was barely changed.  Handle was omitted because I didn't use it much.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 09:46 PM - 08/23/14
cut and solder telephone cable -> 3mm hole. Still I want the same shape, its awesome! Measure it for me pretty please!
How did you cut the Laminate to fit? Does it have manufacturer name?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 09:54 PM - 08/23/14
I think the XIM4 will go under the desk for me its lights play is quite annoying. Will add it to list
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 10:47 PM - 08/23/14
I'll see if I can modify the drawing on the shape.  Only real change was the sides near elbows cut in to accommodate my chair a little better. 

Laminate is Wilsonart matte black.  Got a 4x8 sheet for 24$ on sale. Enough to do a few.  You glue it on oversized and then route it off flush, or with an detailed edge like mine. 

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/23/46ef6cde2d46b1e0a3e406c1d56b6a49.jpg)

Are there no options on the xim for lights?  Does it not do the gentle pulse like the edge?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:55 PM - 08/23/14
if you do please add measurements in mm would be nice for ROW (rest of world) :)

route off? don't get how you do laminate cutting.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 11:05 PM - 08/23/14
OK.  Here's how to laminate.  I didn't take video.  Skip to 4:10 for routing.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 11:10 PM - 08/23/14
link missin?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 11:12 PM - 08/23/14
Oops.

Gluing and Trimming Plastic Laminate Countertop:

 http://youtu.be/FLN_9X9e4Iw (http://youtu.be/FLN_9X9e4Iw)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 11:27 PM - 08/23/14
Ok I get it the Oberfršse lol can you please make a photo of the drill that was used? Sorry for harassing but I am not the most famous carpenter in the city.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 11:41 PM - 08/23/14
Man hiding the magnets with laminate is near genious. Have to redo.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Au1d Yin on 03:13 AM - 08/24/14
Nice finish ... looks good without the extra holes  :)
 
Now ... if you had a favourite mouse mat that was the same thickness as the laminate it would be nice to do a cut out of the laminate to fit the mouse mat .... flush and completely non slide mat hmmm :)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 03:30 AM - 08/24/14
lol possible to do no question but not easy with a router without a pro workbench. Not sure if worth it but sick idea for sure.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 03:34 AM - 08/24/14
what i want to say, you can submerge in the wood.
Title: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 03:51 AM - 08/24/14
Sorry for the multipost. I Agree with Gduck laminate and magnets are the way to go, cheap and easy. I think I will have only the controllers, mouse, orbweaver and the android on the desk. Everything else will move below. The xim makes way too much and unnecessary clutter on top with 4 cables out and I dont want to drill 4 holes for the cables or 90 degree usb connectors. I would like a rectangular black long box for the Xim and cables below the front. Fixation under laminate is now super easy.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 04:38 AM - 08/24/14
http://www.tube-town.net/ttstore/Kabel-Leitungen/Kabel-Zubehoer/Kabeldurchfuehrung-10-mm::1548.html

cant find these with 10mm thickness so it would fit the multiplex
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Au1d Yin on 04:50 AM - 08/24/14
lol possible to do no question but not easy with a router without a pro workbench. Not sure if worth it but sick idea for sure.

Pretty simple ... you could even do it on a kitchen table if you are only cutting laminate ...  all you would need is some clamps and a piece of waste wood under the laminate.
 
Mark the shape of the mouse mat on the laminate and clamp 4 pieces of scrap wood outside the lines so that the router bit cuts on the marked lines.
 
Just run the plunge router along the inside of the clamped wood  and it's done ... if your mouse mat does not have rounded corners you will need to cut the laminate corners square.
 
If the mouse mat does not have straight outside edges and is curved  for example  ... you would have to make up a wood jig to the shape of the mat. But if the mat is square it would be quick and simple  :)
 
Oh and all this would be cut before gluing the laminate to the gduck beauty :)
 
Meant to say that you could probably cut through the laminate with a knife and straight edge if you don't have a router.
 
 
 
 
Title: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 04:55 AM - 08/24/14
no i get it but most mousepads are thick. so you would need to submerge them. The laminate protects the wood from humidity. This would not be with it cut so I think my mousepad comes on top. I have a problem with the holes. cant find a sexy way to get throught the wood.
Title: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 05:02 AM - 08/24/14
Im not sure If I even want the cables go through the board . The untouched laminate looks so slick, I might go over the rim with the cables. Dunno maybe great with multiple magnets that can be chosen, no fixed place.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 07:01 AM - 08/24/14
Gduck watched the last youtube over and over. Redo and do not drill any hole visible on the board. Let the cables come from above. That untouched plain just looks so awesome. Just submerge the magnets and submerge some fixation screws for the Velcro or whatever holding the cables. Plain board, magnets and its a beauty.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 08:22 AM - 08/24/14
I think you are right on living the xim below.  I keep trying to make it the center piece. I thought I had it all in order on this one but now that is in hand I have a couple regrets.

1. Should have pretty much honeycombed the whole desk. Less weight and infinite placement options. Be careful not to make it weak.

2.  Put handle in middle top and relocate xim below.

I've got stuff to do another one.  Dammit!
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 08:24 AM - 08/24/14
I think one hole may be necessary instead of sites over the edge.  Those grommets will work if they only go thru the laminate. Big hole thru wood,  smaller thru laminate for grommet
Title: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 08:56 AM - 08/24/14
then its three holes minimum, mouse, orb, controller/Android rest under desk.
You sure over edge looks shite? Can you show?
Title: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 08:59 AM - 08/24/14
Gromets through laminate only might be unstable and can break out?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 09:13 AM - 08/24/14
found something superbe
http://www.designathome.de/files/5712/8093/8405/eiermann_tischplatte_multiplex_kabelschlitz_detail.jpg
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 09:16 AM - 08/24/14
I have a divider for that machine you used for the edges. one hole for the cable end and then a 3mm gap along the top circle! Awesomeness!
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 09:20 AM - 08/24/14
So that's a slot for the wires to run freely? It would be relatively easy to put some wire slots around the board.  You could make them in a way that it looks TRON-ish
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 09:24 AM - 08/24/14
only one quartercircle very thin just enough for cable and central hole just big enough for micro usb end. Would be almost invisible
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 09:28 AM - 08/24/14
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/24/ee8ac52dbee1131a401296bdd9d67252.jpg)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 09:34 AM - 08/24/14
Hey is wood oil greasy? Does it stain leather for example? To seal edge?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: araman on 01:56 PM - 08/24/14
Alright, have some time to work on this this afternoon yet. I've only just completed my cutout still.

I'd love to go the route you all are going now, but I don't need fancy magnets, plus I prefer to not modify my controllers, so I'm gonna KISS it here and stay along the lines of the 1.0 design, with a few twists of my own.

I used birch plywood for the base, do you think a stain would turn out well instead of paint?  How do I properly prep the surface for a stain?  Read something about the veneer on birch plywood being really thin - do I want to sand through the veneer to stain, or keep it unsanded and just go right to staining, prepping with a sanding sealer instead?  I'm pretty wet behind the ears here.  I'm going dark with the stain as I'm trying to match the decor of our living room where I'll be playing and want it to blend in somewhat, and we have dark stained wood throughout.

For the record, I'm not doing a handle either, don't see it getting use :\
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 02:13 PM - 08/24/14
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/24/ee8ac52dbee1131a401296bdd9d67252.jpg)
I think I will try this. Above the mouse. Possibly in other spot.  This board will turn in to my next experiment board.

Got a PCV valve grommet for a Toyota at the auto parts store.  It's OK.

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/24/3983012556e86bea89c63ad36430373c.jpg)

Whole setup is super clean with xim underneath.
 (http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/24/b02e4e477318358605796ec04c2ff491.jpg)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 02:15 PM - 08/24/14
Ahhhw noooo laminated magnetism is the shlt!
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 02:24 PM - 08/24/14
i looked for grinds for the thin slot. 3.2 is thinnest I found but I think the slot should be 4mm. What do you say? Cant measure regular USB cable thickness right now.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 02:28 PM - 08/24/14
Alright, have some time to work on this this afternoon yet. I've only just completed my cutout still.

I'd love to go the route you all are going now, but I don't need fancy magnets, plus I prefer to not modify my controllers, so I'm gonna KISS it here and stay along the lines of the 1.0 design, with a few twists of my own.

I used birch plywood for the base, do you think a stain would turn out well instead of paint?  How do I properly prep the surface for a stain?  Read something about the veneer on birch plywood being really thin - do I want to sand through the veneer to stain, or keep it unsanded and just go right to staining, prepping with a sanding sealer instead?  I'm pretty wet behind the ears here.  I'm going dark with the stain as I'm trying to match the decor of our living room where I'll be playing and want it to blend in somewhat, and we have dark stained wood throughout.

For the record, I'm not doing a handle either, don't see it getting use :\
The magnets have blown me away and I think are key to ease of use.  The elastic I used before want terrible,  but an extra minute or so each time of fumbling to put things in the straps adds up.

Birch is paint grade. Depending on the actual piece you can possibly get away with it. Birch has a tendency to take stain differently through the grain.  You don't need to prep much to stain.  Don't sand thru the veneer because the wood below is trash and will not stain good at all.  Just slop some stain on,  let it sit a sec and wipe off.  A sanding sealer after stain will be fine. Lots of Birch will stain lighter than you expect.  Try to take a scrap to the store to get an idea on it.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 02:34 PM - 08/24/14
i looked for grinds for the thin slot. 3.2 is thinnest I found but I think the slot should be 4mm. What do you say? Cant measure regular USB cable thickness right now.
I have a few plunge bits I'll check the size and let you know.  I worry a tad about the braided cable in the mouse catching and wearing out prematurely.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 02:38 PM - 08/24/14
Ah OK I removed the braid as it got stuck at the Edge of the Hayate all the time.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 03:05 PM - 08/24/14
That board now looks amazing Gduck, love the white borders, will try to reproduce just with the cable groove. Xim, DSS are banned from top.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 03:45 PM - 08/24/14
Thanks.  Really pleased mainly because of tips and changes suggested in this thread.  Edge is just unfinished wood.  I like it.  Prolly going to just seal it like this.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: araman on 08:16 PM - 08/24/14
Could you show how you have the XIM mounted on the bottom?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 08:28 PM - 08/24/14
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/24/8a5563d7bad95cd79f6032779d5b7e0e.jpg)

May not be final.  I just used double sided tap stacked up.  Still ventilated.  Lots of room to put it under wherever you want.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 09:03 PM - 08/24/14
Thats how I thought and fixating cables is enough. Great to hide the cablemonster.

Gduck I have request that would help me and others alot. Could you make a video of cutting the lapdesk with the router, the laminating and the routing of the edges? Handling a router is not easy.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 11:04 PM - 08/24/14
Routers are pretty dangerous.  I think them and table saws are most responsible for digit removal.  If /when I make the next one I will record it.
Title: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 11:41 PM - 08/24/14
I did some speakers so I routered some distance. I heard routers are dangerous but I really wonder how accidents happen. Could it be the table mouted ones?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 06:12 AM - 08/25/14
Honestly I don't know.  The guys I know that have been cut up couldn't explain.  They just said it got away from them. I think one handed use and going the wrong direction are the main issues.  A router will run at you pretty fast if you aren't pushing it away from you.   A good rule with almost every tool in wood working is that the blades/tool always run at you,  so you have to make sure you have your hands out of the way of where a tool might kick back on you.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:07 AM - 08/25/14
Ok that makes sense the grind is turning right and you are working on right side of plate. Dunno I do a lot of bone surgery and there also you have to stabilize the drill a lot, I guess I do it out of reflex on the wood also.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:08 AM - 08/25/14
Hey look for a pillow maker, its worth it, the bananas look shite on that beauty board.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 10:44 AM - 08/25/14
What kind of foam did you use? No heat issues? Vinyl covering? Not sticky at all?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 11:06 AM - 08/25/14
No heat problem, itís a high quality fake leather but your material isn't pure Japanese silk either :D
F1KaltH55S60 Quadrat/Rechteck/WŁrfel a:5.0cm b:30.0cm c:70.0cm
The Size fits well and itís a hard cold foam maybe this H55S60 helps. Hard means its soft but hard enough so i floats. 
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: sooldier on 02:04 AM - 08/28/14
I am going to home depot today and buying a sheet of MDF and the coating spray. Then, I'm going to kinkos to print out the template. Anyone know if they can handle this file format on the googledrive?

try this pdf - page size is "Arch E"

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-J6TE8MFwtCdnMtcGtiU1RXSVE/edit?usp=sharing (http://xim4.com/file/d/0B-J6TE8MFwtCdnMtcGtiU1RXSVE/edit?usp=sharing)

The holes I made on the left for two XIM4, then on left side still one for the N52te, right side for the controllers and mouse. Gduck you see any other holes I need as when the paintjob is done professionally there is no way to add another. I have a super great color in mind.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/21/esy3ysyv.jpg)

Hello there gduck24, could we please get an update of the pdf with the 5 holes you drew on the board and what diameter did you use
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 02:39 AM - 08/28/14
This was my board. Do not drill the holes its not the way to go. Submerged magnets + Laminate + cablegroove.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: sooldier on 04:01 AM - 08/28/14
This was my board. Do not drill the holes its not the way to go. Submerged magnets + Laminate + cablegroove.
Any example that could elaborate on your suggestion. I'm trying to do the same as the above but i want the easy way as i will let my Carpenter do it for me.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 10:49 AM - 08/28/14
**  Holes in board for magnet recess is strictly up to your personal tastes.  If I were to make another I would honey comb 2" holes all over where I intended items to go for ease of placement.  I would leave a minimum 1" or 25 mm of plywood between holes for strength. 


** Sketchup files - Modified with likely holes (up to you where you put them, handle (I'm going back to a handle on next one), and left side is cut in more in Batman style as roads says.  Right side was left the same, you can transfer either to the other side depending on what you like. 

MERICA! yea!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-J6TE8MFwtCTk1qRWdrejI4ZlU/edit?usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-J6TE8MFwtCTk1qRWdrejI4ZlU/edit?usp=sharing)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-boQBnYCpiek/U_9dMXTsM3I/AAAAAAAAFWw/q01K-9yqjas/w727-h390-no/gaming%2Blap%2Bdesk%2Brevised%2BMERICA.jpg)

Rest of World - ROW
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-J6TE8MFwtCRl9SRTVYenRWODQ/edit?usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-J6TE8MFwtCRl9SRTVYenRWODQ/edit?usp=sharing)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/BdgLO6bg0MEj59FORQOeLNpFM8Y6Um8NwDYTaeC5wek=w727-h390-no)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: sooldier on 12:17 PM - 08/28/14
@gduck24 you're awesome seriously!!! appreciate your sharing and hard work!!!

The sketch you shared is it possible to convert to a pdf file like before and "the rest of the world" version still got some inches that needs to be converted :P and the circles you didn't mention where to put them and their respective diameters same goes to the middle one that you can use to hold it. One last thing if you could elaborate which magnets to get for this baby will be awesome.

THK YOU SO MUCH!!
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 12:34 PM - 08/28/14
ROW!!!!!! Fuggg Yeahhh!
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: araman on 12:54 PM - 08/28/14
you guys are starting to make me come around on the magnets idea... dammit.

Any chance we could get a consolidated post with all the changes including where to find the magnets and how to mount them both on the desk and your controllers? Thanks if u can manage!
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 01:37 PM - 08/28/14
ROW!!!!!! Fuggg Yeahhh!

Only took 30 fuggin pages of posts to get it done! 

@gduck24 you're awesome seriously!!! appreciate your sharing and hard work!!!

The sketch you shared is it possible to convert to a pdf file like before and "the rest of the world" version still got some inches that needs to be converted :P and the circles you didn't mention where to put them and their respective diameters same goes to the middle one that you can use to hold it. One last thing if you could elaborate which magnets to get for this baby will be awesome.

THK YOU SO MUCH!!

Slow day at work I guess.  Merica is going to have to complain before they get theirs.  Paper is Arch E here but E will work - just make sure the printer is not set on fit to page.  Adobe has an "actual size" check box that works well.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-J6TE8MFwtCTzVSZm1BYnlUZTQ/edit?usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-J6TE8MFwtCTzVSZm1BYnlUZTQ/edit?usp=sharing)

There are no dimensions on the holes because they are completely up to you.  You may have different peripherals than me, and you may want your controller to be a little more handy just on the left side of the board.

I would suggest laying out your board and playing on it, bare without holes and get an idea where you like stuff and then drill holes and laminate afterwards.  This will also give you a chance to figure out if you need/want a handle.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 01:42 PM - 08/28/14
you guys are starting to make me come around on the magnets idea... dammit.

Any chance we could get a consolidated post with all the changes including where to find the magnets and how to mount them both on the desk and your controllers? Thanks if u can manage!

I didnt think the magnets were going to work good.  I was dead wrong.  They are bad arse.

Can I mod the first post with an update?  Is that kosher? 

I am also going to put this together on my blog that I havent posted to in a year or so lol.  www.makemodhack.com (http://www.makemodhack.com)  I could have used the hits on there.

roads - It would be very cool if you and some of the guys here W1ce or whoever wanted to contribute or just blog your stuff on there.  I can make and mod, but my hack is a little lacking. 
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 02:06 PM - 08/28/14
Honey I am not so much the blog fan. I really like to post here as its XIM related stuff.
Sure edit the first post, totally OK.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: araman on 02:09 PM - 08/28/14
That would be perfect!
One more question about the magnets. Why not just do insets with spade drill bits and place the magnets inside with a layer of wood separating the laminate and the magnet instead of all the way through the wood?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 02:22 PM - 08/28/14
That would be perfect!
One more question about the magnets. Why not just do insets with spade drill bits and place the magnets inside with a layer of wood separating the laminate and the magnet instead of all the way through the wood?

You can try. You will have to use a drill press or drill stop so you dont go all the way through. I think you could get it thin enough for the magnets to work. A spade bit will not work well because it has a centerpoint to keep the bit in place that would poke through before you get deep enough.  You need a Forstner bit. Laminate is the way to go though.  I think guys that like hard mouse mats may not even need a mat with the laminate.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: araman on 03:05 PM - 08/28/14
These are neodyne magnets, right? Did you test without any holes/insets at all? I feel they should be strong enough to go through the thickness we're working with here.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 03:28 PM - 08/28/14
Man you really need to read this thread.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: araman on 03:36 PM - 08/28/14
honestly? I've been following it for a while now but only recently decided to jump in. There's just been so many changes and no summary of them to be able to put all the pieces together for a journeyman like me so , like this thread, my questions are disjointed :P
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: araman on 06:32 PM - 08/28/14
Man is it ever hard to find solid color laminate sheets in this town.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 05:23 AM - 08/30/14
They had problems ordering matte black for me also.

Gduck what is your estimate how far must the cable groove stay from the border if it extends over the whole top arch to be still stable at 9mm multiplex?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 07:12 AM - 08/30/14
Depends on the length of the groove.  I would say 100mm(4") or so could be as close as 25.4mm to the edges.  I have took today to me with mine so hopefully I can test a little. Only thing is I was planning on grooving near the mouse,  but a groove may be unnecessary for just one wire?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 07:15 AM - 08/30/14
Just reread.  For the groove like you drew,  prolly 30 to 40 mm.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 07:18 AM - 08/30/14
Yeah totally, I want the controller, mouse, Android and Orb cable in there. 100mm is what I thought too as the minimum. The groove will go from the left third to the right third of the board.

Edit: really 30 to 40 enough? You think?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 07:22 AM - 08/30/14
For multiplex/Baltic birch, yes.  The plys are all laid cross grain and it is pretty strong.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 07:55 AM - 08/30/14
Alright will try 40mm. You took more than 9mm thickness no? At least it looks like 18mm.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 07:58 AM - 08/30/14
Mine is 12mm. 1/2".  9mm or 3/8 would definitely be special order here. I'm going to get started laminating my old mdf one in a minute and I'll test a groove.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 08:12 AM - 08/30/14
Nice, keep us posted.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 08:13 AM - 08/30/14
Any tricks laminating? The Wood guy told me to Pattex it, its kind of glue. Any trick to make surface smooth? How do you apply glue? Maybe take video from above again.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 08:57 AM - 08/30/14
Some tricks.  I'll try to video.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 11:33 AM - 08/30/14
Video coming soon.

I couldn't stand to cut a handle on my current one.  This works well. 

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/30/720afb173da3574b44ce39ff8b7204c2.jpg)

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/30/241511d527d9923a89969a035d1a98c0.jpg)

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/30/b0f14709617f92f1b97d5778a32e1b36.jpg)

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Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 01:19 PM - 08/30/14
Haha thought exactly about that to loose that hole. Nicely done! Just a squarewood and router it out!
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 01:25 PM - 08/30/14
what about something like this?

(http://www.bilder.preistaktik.de/Artikelbilder1/110462.jpg)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 01:31 PM - 08/30/14
three cool ones dunno which one. Will do 2 1 on each side I take the desk with two hands normally to lift it.
Great that you say cause its too late for that after Laminate.

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Muschelgriffe-Apothekergriffe-Mobelgriffe-Turgriffe-Griffe-Schubladengriffe-/221444914628?pt=DE_Haus_Garten_Heimwerker_Beschl%C3%A4ge&var=520316512251&hash=item338f253dc4
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 01:52 PM - 08/30/14
Those should be fine.  You could epoxy them too after laminate?  Video is uploading.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 02:28 PM - 08/30/14
And now another episode of "Rednecks with Power tools"! I started the video in portrait so it's a little cramped.  Not doing another for a while so this is it.

But seriously,  I can't stress enough to be careful.  Have a question - ask it.

http://www.youtube.com/v/6Ar7eOdl9DE&hd=1
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 02:50 PM - 08/30/14
Awesome, thank you. Does a USB connector fit through the hole? Show how the cable is in there.
Even if copied I had the feeling the groove would have come too close to the edge if you would have made it longer which is impossible but it looks like it.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 02:56 PM - 08/30/14
What about drilling the hole in the soundgroove with the router? Would be centered already?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 03:04 PM - 08/30/14
i mean cablegroove not soundgroove :)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 03:12 PM - 08/30/14
another thing G, now that i can drill a hole in the wood I will use a tool for the router to cut the outside domes.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 03:15 PM - 08/30/14
http://m.ebay.de/itm/220590565214?nav=SEARCH
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 03:18 PM - 08/30/14
I didn't clean it up at all so it's at its ugliest right now. The varying sizes of usb are going to have to determine the hole or groove.  Groove can be smaller, but cables dont slide good and I can see they tend to hang in the center hole.  If you painted inside groove black it would be inconspicuous,  but I don't think it's my flavor.

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/30/bc3815e64169a0013e31d0c1ec07e276.jpg)

I added a hole and grommet to my current desk.  I like it.

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Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 03:26 PM - 08/30/14
I worry about the magnets any my phone.  Be careful where you put it.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 03:28 PM - 08/30/14
Magnetic cup holder.  I'm on it.  This laminate is slick and anything without a rubber bottom slides around dangerously. 
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: araman on 07:49 PM - 08/30/14
Hey gduck, where did you get your magnets and what size did you end up with?  I know roads got them from DE EBay store, but I see the same seller doesn't ship to the US.  I've found a bunch of decent deals from china stores on US ebay, but none of them are the same size as the ones roads mentioned and I don't want them to be too thick such that it raises up my orbweaver and makes it teeter, let alone my DS4.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: bmac009 on 08:14 PM - 08/30/14
Also how are you either screwing or glueing the magnetics onto the under neath board? Can you post a pic of those honeycombe wwhere the magnetics are sitting please?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 08:19 PM - 08/30/14
Countersunk Hole Neodymium Magnets N42 1/2"x1/4" for #6 Screw 6 ct.

I bought a couple sets.

Check a page or two back.  Hot glue.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: bmac009 on 08:27 PM - 08/30/14
So the hole through the wood is a bit larger than the magnet and then just hot glue them in? Cos looking at your holes before the laminate those holes are large.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: bmac009 on 08:35 PM - 08/30/14
And also to be another pain, where did you glue the magnet onto into for the g502? I see roads talking about removing that door thingy. Will the magnet work through that door? Also tried sort of on the back of the mouse ( the glue fall off). On the slope part of the mouse.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 08:44 PM - 08/30/14
Holes are way big so that there is room to adjust.

I used the bottom plate of the mouse from suggestion of roads.  Works well and mouse is lighter.  Just double side tape the bottom plate where you want it.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:36 PM - 08/30/14
I have an iron washer glued to on my 50$ used HTC android and its hanging on the for weeks now. Yesterday the following happened. Nahh nothing just kidding nothing happens thatís magneto from X-men you think about.

Your groove is much too short it should go from the right to the left devices. Of course it makes no sense having a short one. I find your device placement awkward. I want to use the space in the middle for the controllers as itís the space not used at all while playing its between my arms. If you now place the Orb to play you interfere with the Bone controller or that cable there.
How did you fixate the mouse?   
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 11:17 PM - 08/30/14
Magnets, yeah the size is quite good I found. I will look for some smaller ones for low weight inside my upcoming W11cemeister mouse.
I dont really like the idea of the big holes and then glue the magnets on the laminate. You can damage the laminate there quite easily and itís a bit like a drum?
Another method would be to drill to the desired depth with the router and from there with a 3mm drill for the screw from the laminate side before laminating.
It would make sense to just glue them in as then you could put them in switched over as only one side of the magnet is lowered to sink in the screw head so there is only one way to put them in if screwed. I would have to switch over all magnets on the devices but thatís not really a problem. I understand you can not change magnet position after this. Yeah I think they need to be static. 
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 01:03 PM - 08/31/14
I thought you said you would do around 100mm for the groove so I did about that on mine. I think I could go a little longer on it before it gets weak.

My orb goes dead in the middle,  I think if it was a keyboard it would be turned 45 degrees.  This way my elbow stays almost planted and I just swing it over to the controller in the lower position.  I don't use the controller at all though.

Big holes do increase potential damage on top.  As long as you are somewhat careful it will be fine.  Also taking more time to locate and place your stuff will work too.  I think I like the ability to move and adjust,  especially since I plan on getting ps4 soon.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: araman on 01:16 PM - 08/31/14
roads, since I'm not comfortable going the screwed in DS4 (no xbox here) controller magnets route, I am going to use sugru, and in this pic I see that you have something built up below your sculpting:

http://www11.pic-upload.de/08.08.14/i2l8p1iwosn.jpg

I see (from top to bottom) magnet, something white?, another magnet, then... ?  What's the whole makeup here?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 01:37 PM - 08/31/14
misunderstanding G, itís 100mm from the rim but really long. That is why I asked about the stability.

Sugru, yes the magnet is in the sugru the white is just a plastic washer that came with the magnets. The Sugru thing doesnít work well. It is not holding well on the controllers against the evil magnets.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 04:48 PM - 08/31/14
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Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: mist4fun on 06:05 PM - 08/31/14
Is your handle under the laminate?

When you guys are done with your quest to find the best lap desk design you should create a new thread with the various design ideas in the OP.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 06:33 PM - 08/31/14
Is your handle under the laminate?

When you guys are done with your quest to find the best lap desk design you should create a new thread with the various design ideas in the OP.
Me?  Yes,  the handle is attached to the board.  It works well.

Maybe thread could be all the finished boards?

I think I'm done on mine.  I like the holes and grommets and placement. I am content.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 09:53 PM - 08/31/14
I get it now, your main space is the middle. I use bot sides but not the middle. OK thatís another two holes in the laminate for the mouse.

Mist I think we agree in 99% that is laminate with hidden magnets, shape, XIM Christmas edition hidden below. Its really just how and where to place the magnets and the method of cables coming out. It is perfected.

G, what is the brand of those rubber grommets? I cant seem to find some that fit 9mm. Talk me out of that groove. You say the cables will not stay still and dangle around?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 09:57 PM - 08/31/14
No I have another elegant idea of cable management without holes again with magnets. Look at this. Just magnets at the places you want the cables to get over the rim. *clack*. Of course smaller and can be metal small lego sized cube with a groove in it for the cable. If you dont use, invisible.

(http://fancycribs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/onelessdrop_01.jpg)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 10:14 PM - 08/31/14
Interesting on cable management.  I am a believer in magnets so I might look into that. 

I got the grommets from an auto parts store.  They are PCV  va love grommets for a Toyota.  I'll see if I can find a part #.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:19 PM - 08/31/14
(http://de.farnell.com/productimages/farnell/standard/2291998-40.jpg)

easiest thing to attach to cable to hold tight on magnets
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 10:21 PM - 08/31/14
Cables kept gravitating to the center hole and hanging there.  The hole is going to be fairly big,  but my groove could have been thinner. That would help.  I think that the desk is nicer when we stay minimal,  and the groove is minimal,  but not necessary when the hole is really all you need.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:25 PM - 08/31/14
Cables kept gravitating to the center hole and hanging there.  The hole is going to be fairly big,  but my groove could have been thinner. That would help.  I think that the desk is nicer when we stay minimal,  and the groove is minimal,  but not necessary when the hole is really all you need.

I agree, no holes/grooves at all would be preferable as long as the cable management is right. Just thing of something metal we can attach to the cable and that looks good. Magnets are no good as if they fall off and fly around they are dangerous to kids.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:29 PM - 08/31/14
Groove must be slightly thicker than cables. Measured cable to 2,5mm thick so groove must be 3mm maximally 4mm. Are there drills that thin? The cable will hold in place secure if bent, I am quite sure.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 10:48 PM - 08/31/14
Rotozip prolly has bits that small.  That shouldn't be an issue.  If you took apart the cables and didn't have the hole I think it would be pretty sharp.  Groove only.  I just don't feel like working to take apart wires and resolder
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:49 PM - 08/31/14
Hmm tried just a a wire around the cable and its not strong enough.
No resolder it has to go around like clip or held with screws.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 07:15 AM - 09/01/14
http://www.garvinindustries.com/low-voltage/magnetic-cable-hangers/snap-in-cable-holder/mch50bk

don't really like them but thats the idea
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 07:46 AM - 09/01/14
You could do something similar by embedding the magnet.  Use a washer with little arms of wire that twist or close around the cables?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 07:47 AM - 09/01/14
Wohooo I got it. The Gduck Lapdesk untouched surface is now possible.  This is awesome. Easy and good looking. I guess better in black. Would like these magnets in black. Just take the cable clamp where one strand barelly fits and you have to pull in the second strand with a plier. The cut ends can then be heated up so they melt inside the depression that is there for the screwhead. Should hold fine. 

(http://www11.pic-upload.de/01.09.14/mjjmszzr63kk.jpg)

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Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 07:48 AM - 09/01/14
You could do something similar by embedding the magnet.  Use a washer with little arms of wire that twist or close around the cables?

haha you had the same idea I was just ahead half an hour thinking how to solve it easily.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 07:49 AM - 09/01/14
I am ordering 10 more of these magnets as its just great to fixate cables with this :D
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 07:55 AM - 09/01/14
I like it.  Are you going to use these on the board? Will you put a metal plate on the bottom? Or is this just for cables beyond the board?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 07:58 AM - 09/01/14
I think I will use it like this. 3 submerged magnets maybe 10mm from the rim on the top side under the laminate.
Cables would hold fast ridiculously strong. Even too strong?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 08:00 AM - 09/01/14
Maybe to strong.  I would think one and a washer would be good enough.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 08:01 AM - 09/01/14
Washer under laminate?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 08:08 AM - 09/01/14
Yup.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 08:11 AM - 09/01/14
Dunno try on your laminate problem is the sheer force maybe too low if you pull the cable sideways. To be sure it stays where it is I think its two magnets. Tell me what you find.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 08:19 AM - 09/01/14
Here is one to fixate the lapdesk on the wall, well why not. LOL

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1-x-Neodym-Ringmagnet-40x8-mm-starke-Magnete-mit-Bohrung-Loch-Senkung-Magnet-/00/s/NjAwWDYwMA==/z/A1MAAOSwxCxT6gPr/$_12.JPG)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 08:20 AM - 09/01/14
I mean it holds 55Kg hahaha only weights 50g. Dont want my hand between two of those.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: bmac009 on 07:09 PM - 09/02/14
Roads or Gduck, Do you know of a way to have the XIM4 wireless connected to the PS4/XBone from the couch? At the moment I have a USB extension cable but would love to have that removed and replaced somehow... Is there an option?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 12:29 AM - 09/03/14
Thatís my problem also, I have a 15m repeater cable that did function perfectly with the XIM4E but not the XIM4 (can not see tracking problems but BT wont connect). W11ce would be able to make such a BT transmitter he told  with two teensies and two sparkfun transmitters but it would be too expensive and he does not have the time to do it. Transmitting M+K would be easy, transmitting XIM would need to sniff the communication.
SO its cable across the room for now and the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 08:59 AM - 09/04/14
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Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 09:17 AM - 09/04/14
14 Magnets if rim-magnets are used. Thatís quite a lot. Not sure about those Gduck. Also no sure if I should jigsaw the round rims or use the router for it. With the router the roundings would be perfect? I have a circle for the router.

Oh and I bought a Festool 1010 router so I hate you Gduck LOL

(http://media.lefeld.de/Artikelbilder/Shop800px/483922.jpg)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 09:55 AM - 09/04/14
You love me and you know it.  The desire and quest for quality tools will never end.  I am really just helping that journey.

I would get familiar with,  and route every part possible.  The router will make better cuts and be perfect, compared to a jigsaw.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:41 AM - 09/04/14
Yeah just will have to find a table to cut the lower tummy rounding. Cant do that on the crocklock.
I can not make up my mind if holes, magnets or the cablegroove. I dont think the magnets look good. The board would look best naked but when is it empty? Never. The groove I measure cables and some USB are 4.5mm wide so the groove must be 5mm wide. The cables will move around as you said and I cant get to the complete left side left side.

A F it, ill go with the groove.

No I still hate you BUT it well get much better tomorrow when the tool arrives.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 11:49 PM - 09/04/14
I think I solved on how to router the belly rim. I ordered this for my crocklock. Its now easy to fixate the lapdesk and a piece of wood for the radius point.

(http://cdn.rubart.de/images/product_images/popup_images/festool__hb_mftlp_489396_z_01a.jpg)

I will also punish you with this very veeery boring youtube video of the tool you need also. Its really horribly boring. Its also Russian so I made sure you don't understand shlt.

http://www.youtube.com/v/YQzJsWqEuek&hd=1
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 06:03 AM - 09/05/14
Generally I enjoy Russian YouTube videos,  but that one was pretty boring.  I prefer their dashcam or gun videos.

We have a similar product made from polycarbonate so it has less potential to damage cabinets.  They are good.

 http://m.lowes.com/product?langId=-1&storeId=10702&catalogId=10051&productId=50129716&store=1969&view=detail&nValue=4294857578  (http://m.lowes.com/product?langId=-1&storeId=10702&catalogId=10051&productId=50129716&store=1969&view=detail&nValue=4294857578)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 06:07 AM - 09/05/14
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/05/30612852726bcb8785ae9cc43a789acc.jpg)(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/05/49cf284f7385d01009ccd0c41d53bcb8.jpg)(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/05/3095dc9615ac5e4b146b5d34501ed7dc.jpg)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 06:13 AM - 09/05/14
I need a legend for that.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 06:18 AM - 09/05/14
No no those clamps are for the holes you can fixate plates easily.  See this video that is less boring. I don't have the table as its 350 Euro just the holed top.

http://www.youtube.com/v/xbtHA-pRIMA&hd=1
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 06:20 AM - 09/05/14
I need a legend for that.

M are the magnets, positions are final, the blue circles would be the holes if I would put some. You can see also the cable groove size.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 06:42 AM - 09/05/14
Helloooo....

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61PLnIwsZiL._SL1500_.jpg)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 06:43 AM - 09/05/14
its called CABLOX cablemanager. And I did order it.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 06:54 AM - 09/05/14
its called CABLOX cablemanager. And I did order it.
Lol.  Get one big enough for the whole bottom so you get acupuncture therapy while you play.

I want to see this one in action with multiple cables.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 06:55 AM - 09/05/14
Lol was because we obviously have a bit of an obsession /problem.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 07:13 AM - 09/05/14
What problem, is it perfect yet? :D

I think that will work just fine imagine the XIM4 between the two. You dont put the full cords in there, will still fixate the surplus with velcro stripes.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 07:16 AM - 09/05/14
Ta craeat ma shata cablies

another boring one

http://www.youtube.com/v/J1TNVp8tJUw&hd=1
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 07:18 AM - 09/05/14
I think it could be a perfect combination with the cable groove.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 07:58 AM - 09/05/14
that could all be very nice.  BTW that router and table setup is fricken sweet.  But if you pay that much for all that and accessories it better be sweet.  Looks like that one will last a lifetime and can do much more that standard routers so its worth it.  I still stand by my thoughts on buying for life or buying to tear it up that weekend.  There is no middle ground.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 08:05 AM - 09/05/14
The router I have right now is 50 Euro. Itís the works Peking shlt and will likely explode one day. I now also buy HQ drills. Worst thing that can happen with the router is tilt it will ruin the board. That is why I want it mainly.
check from 0:40 Thatís just super safe. Thatís the router I ordered btw. I hope that addon is on it, if not I will get it.

http://www.youtube.com/v/81oFm03FWOk&hd=1
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 08:40 AM - 09/05/14
Velcro full ban

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/05/813cbadee63f65cf5de48402336d5901.jpg)

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/05/7c0841f301269b95c1eefa81904c5916.jpg)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 03:00 PM - 09/05/14
How about laminating underside also?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 06:27 PM - 09/05/14
Just more work.  If I was too go through that trouble I would laminate the edges too
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:54 PM - 09/05/14
Yeah, makes sense. Btw when I bought the laminate, I too had to buy 3 meters long, they said that there is some thick laminated multiplex that is used for trailers. That would spare some work, the lamination is perfect and one could router a hole for the magnet from below up to the laminate.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: sooldier on 04:15 AM - 09/06/14
I would like to thank everyone who contributed to make this happen, now if only someone could point me to adjust the best settings for my peripherals  that would be awesome :)

(http://i57.tinypic.com/34ihksx.jpg)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 07:37 AM - 09/06/14
I would like to thank everyone who contributed to make this happen, now if only someone could point me to adjust the best settings for my peripherals  that would be awesome :)

(http://i57.tinypic.com/34ihksx.jpg)
Nice job.  The handle in the middle is the way to go IMO.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 07:41 AM - 09/06/14
But the holes were not intended like that Gduck?? I understood you made the holes to be able to position the magnets as you like?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 07:43 AM - 09/06/14
Sooldier laminate it!
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 07:56 AM - 09/06/14
Gduck at first I did not like the holes as I thought you would feel them through the laminate. Now that the laminate is in my hands its hard as metal. Do you still say the diameter you chose is OK or would you go smaller now?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 08:45 AM - 09/06/14
Mine were 2" (50mm) I would go with it again.  If you press firm you can flex it.  Nothing out of my comfort zone,  but could bother you. Might size down to 1.5"
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 09:20 AM - 09/06/14
Really don't know what to do. I don't like the holes and wont like I can feel the drums you are right. I made Tron-like grooves to be able to set them but it would lower integrity too much. I guess I will hide them completely and if I really need a new one I will have to add them from the downside by routing close to the Laminate.
I should have bought that trailer laminated multiplex. Would be so much easier.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 09:45 AM - 09/06/14
Checked the trailer-board and its no good. It id phenolic resin top and can etch.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 10:01 AM - 09/06/14
Now that you have the router it doesn't matter.  You can set the depth and drop in.  Make a large circle template and then set the router inside so you can make perfect holes.  Practice on some scrap and you'll be golden.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Trickeye on 03:57 AM - 09/07/14
Mine were 2" (50mm) I would go with it again.  If you press firm you can flex it.  Nothing out of my comfort zone,  but could bother you. Might size down to 1.5"

Read through the thread. I'll have to make myself one of these after I finish the man cave in the basement. What is the benefit to sticking with the larger holes? Flexibility on placement of the magnet? If that isn't a concern, going with holes barely larger than the magnet itself would provide greater stability, right?

I'm also wondering if prior to placement of the laminate if it would be best to: bore out a hole with enough depth to bury the magnet flush with the wood, drill a smaller hole through for the screw, then bolt the screw to the back of the remaining board with a washer to spread the force.

Thanks for all the time and posting all the info here. Looks awesome.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 05:59 AM - 09/07/14
Yeah but not necessary to screw the magnet just hot-glue it in. I wont do the big holes as I don't like the look of those. Full submerged under the laminate I will go.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Trickeye on 06:55 AM - 09/07/14
Yeah but not necessary to screw the magnet just hot-glue it in. I wont do the big holes as I don't like the look of those. Full submerged under the laminate I will go.

I'm just worried about the hot glue not really providing much resistance and most of the force will still run into the laminate. If the magnets are countersunk for screws, the screw itself should still sit flush so you're not disrupting the surface.

But I guess combination laminate and hot glue would give you enough force long term.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 07:03 AM - 09/07/14
That laminate is extremely resistant would not worry. If you go through then the complete size of the magnet so you can remove.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 08:29 AM - 09/07/14
I made the holes big just because I didn't know where I wanted to put stuff.  Laminate is strong,  and hot glue works like a champ. The proper tools make aging a magnet in a different location easy so I wouldn't sweat trying to get it all perfect the first time.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 08:32 AM - 09/07/14
So you say holes from below are strictly recommended? Dunno anything about magnets aging.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 09:25 AM - 09/07/14
Well,  I would still make the holes where you know they will go,  then if you need to add some later,  router in new ones.

Aging was autocorrect for adding. SwiftKey got me.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 01:04 PM - 09/07/14
checked magnet aging 0.2 - 2.0 % of their strength over 100 years so it should be OK hahaha.
I think I will router 14mm holes for the 14mm magnets perforated and close the hole with hotglue from below this way they can be removed if place changes or Gduck comes up with another stupid idea that has to be done :D

Btw I read to use this after glueing on the laminate

(http://www.welscherholz.de/images/nudelholz1.jpg)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 02:08 PM - 09/07/14
Good to know on the magnets!

Rolling is good.  Concentrate on edges

I never lack of stupid ideas,  getting most inspiration from this thread lately. Lol!
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Spicy Noodles on 06:22 AM - 09/12/14
Them be some sexy lapdesks  :o

Since I'm guessing that this thread has the most mention of mdf/plywood in the entire XIM forum I'll ask my question here for those who have experience with the material.

Does Plywood or MDF block sound to any degree worth mentioning? You see I like mechanical keyboards like many of you probably do, but that results in it sounding like I'm typing a novel while gaming with my microphone on. I've tried different mics and am currently using a hardware push-to-talk option, but push to talk can get kind of annoying to use. Soooo if someone went nutty and made a keyboard/mouse surface, but also gave it an mdf/ply top & walls, and some kind of heavy fabric/foam front. Do you think the keyboard noise would sound just as loud as before? Not as loud but still really noticeable? Actually effective? Thoughts? (Besides it looking dumb)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 07:43 AM - 09/12/14
Not sure I understand.  Are you talking about building an enclosure on top of a desk like these where you would put your hand in on the mech keyboard? 

MDF (medium density fiberboard) has good sound absorption.  There is a HDF (heavy) that is better.  Plywood is not very good for blocking sound.  There are materials that work better than foam for sound absorption - like Dynamat.  I have used it on some vehicles and it works well.

There is a thread somewhere that there were some little donut rings/washers that people put on their mechanical keys to get them to quiet down and have a shorter throw.  I don't remember if they said they work.

I wear headphones so I can't hear my modded orbweaver, but i have cherrys so they arent bad.  Stock blues were pretty clicky though.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Spicy Noodles on 08:02 AM - 09/12/14
I tried the little rubber o-rings you put on the keyboard already, it makes the sound less annoying but it's still definitely noticeable over the mic :P

Mmm I wouldn't set it on top of a desk, but yep I essentially mean a basic rectangular lapdesk with 5 mdf walls (Bottom, Top, Back & Sides) and the front would have to be something you could pass your hands through but still capable of muffling some sound.

Mm...sounds weird, let me see if I can find my wacom to doodle something up since I figure a picture will make more sense.

EDIT:: Couldnt find the pen for my tablet so I just used the line tool in paint X)
The gray stuff that looks like teeth would be interlocked acoustic foam (the inside isnt filled with it, it would just be like a 1" deep gateway) , though I have my doubts that foam that's comfortable enough to pass your hands through would be dense enough to muffle sound.

(http://s28.postimg.org/ete0xil1n/nope.jpg)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 11:10 AM - 09/14/14
You have some crazy good ears. I'd say invest in some good headsets abs turn it up so you can't hear the clicks. Lol
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 11:40 AM - 09/14/14
Man this takes ages, still waiting for final parts coming tomorrow hopefully. G how do I cut the laminate to the abouts size? Jigsaw?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Spicy Noodles on 12:37 AM - 09/15/14
You have some crazy good ears. I'd say invest in some good headsets abs turn it up so you can't hear the clicks. Lol

Lol, it's not meant to keep me from hearing it, I actually like the noise of mechanical keyboards personally  :P

It's to prevent the microphone from picking it up so that other people won't hear it over chat. (I play with randoms, so having to constantly debate the "fairness" of KB/M vs Controller is something I'd rather avoid, but would still like to be able to chat with people.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 12:45 AM - 09/15/14
touch foil on some thin soft surface like a mousepad would be ninja. lol
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: KodRaiN on 06:27 PM - 09/19/14
Got this phone style cable off amazon, I think (maybe eBay).  Works perfectly for the One controller. 

(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p318/UberDrummer/WP_20140919_17_09_32_Pro__highres.jpg)

(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p318/UberDrummer/WP_20140919_17_10_09_Pro__highres.jpg)
Comfortably stretches to three feet without straining the controller micro port or popping out. 
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 07:13 PM - 09/19/14
Got this phone style cable off amazon, I think (maybe eBay).  Works perfectly for the One controller. 

(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p318/UberDrummer/WP_20140919_17_09_32_Pro__highres.jpg)

(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p318/UberDrummer/WP_20140919_17_10_09_Pro__highres.jpg)
Comfortably stretches to three feet without straining the controller micro port or popping out.
Yep.  That's the one I got.  Works great.
The short one with shorter straight ends is the one I like.  There is another one that stretches father I don't like.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: KodRaiN on 07:53 PM - 09/19/14
Though, the little 18" charging cable that comes with the One works pretty well, too.  That was one of the few smart moves by M$, going with micro USB, though I'm thoroughly pissed about having to buy a $25 adapter just to use my choice of headset, and they have not released a chatpad as of yet...
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: OvC4LiFe on 09:02 AM - 09/27/14
If I had the time I would totally make one of these, they look great guys!
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: KodRaiN on 07:41 PM - 10/02/14
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p318/UberDrummer/WP_20141002_10_21_21_Pro__highres.jpg)
My friend gave me his old galaxy SII as a dedicated XIM interface. 

(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p318/UberDrummer/WP_20141002_11_35_38_Pro__highres.jpg)
3M makes a "Velcro" where both sides are identical.  Tiny little plastic filaments with a little bulb at each tip, touted as lasting 3x longer than normal Velcro.  Found at WalMart.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 10:38 PM - 10/02/14
I just updated the wife to a new Moto x so I think I'm going to use her old busted one as mine.

That plastic velcro is pretty nice.  3m makes one for hanging stuff that peels off no residue like that and is pretty good.

Just ordered my xim4.  4e had been working fine, but my mini me has been bugging me about getting his desk together so it's time.  Is the destiny translation out yet?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 10:41 PM - 10/02/14
What kind of beer is that?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 10:43 PM - 10/02/14
Shock top? Label looks different.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: KodRaiN on 11:46 PM - 10/02/14
Yeah new label.  I also ordered a red and black phone case off eBay. Translators are out on both the edge and the 4 for Destiny.  I'm thinking of replacing the Velcro on all my devices with this stuff.  It's pretty sweet, holds well, but not too well like normal Velcro that has really seated. 
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: piiwii on 01:39 AM - 10/12/14
Hey guys, I just finished working on mine.

I began using a Stable Table which I bought from K-Mart:

(http://ilcaustralia.org.au/attachments/products/medium/3174-pr3845-stabletable2.jpg)

I then sanded off the top surface (it had anti-slip rubber bumps on it), and then finished it off with a finer grain of sandpaper.

Those 3M hooks you see at the top are little "gates" I put on to prevent the mouse cable from sliding off to the sides. I initially tried to set them closer together (leaving just a tiny gap) but it ended up creating too much pull. I found it was much more comfortable to have them set far apart. It works brilliantly.

(http://oi61.tinypic.com/2ql902f.jpg)

You'll also notice that I use it in a portrait position, instead of landscape as it is originally designed for. I did this because in a landscape orientation, it was getting in the way of my left hand, which I use to hold the Sony Nav. It kept brushing up against the side of the lapboard which got annoying.

Also, as you can see below the padding is actually a semi-cylindrical shape so it fit comfortably between my legs:

(http://oi60.tinypic.com/2ynkoll.jpg)

And it just so happens that the Nav fits comfortably within the edge (it's not a perfect fit but well enough):

(http://oi60.tinypic.com/1z69v9d.jpg)

Also three other things that aren't immediately obvious / visible in the photos:

1) The outer edge had a molding seam line, so I sanded it down with a very fine grain sandpaper. I did this because the cable hangs down over the outer edge, and anything rough would fray the cable over time (I use a Logitech G502 which has a braided cable)

2) The black plastic box at the top left is the Logitech G502 weight set, which I attached with double sided tape. I kept losing it, so I thought where better to store it than on my lapboard! Now it'll always be there for quick access:)

3) The outer edge of the plastic is slightly raised, so the mouse won't easily slide off the lapboard.


Overall I'm very pleased with it! All I literally had to do was sand it down and stick on those hooks at the top.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: V3n0m15 on 06:55 PM - 10/20/14
This setup is really starting to make me reconsider my plans for building a PC/Gaming Desk. Now here are my concerns.

I would want to buy an Orbweaver, another Razer Deathadder, a wireless headset (or use my DSS setup but uses more cables) and then build the lap desk.  Its hard to decide on what I really want to do.

The lap desk is also awesome because you just pick it up and bring it to a friends house and game the way you want. It also promotes XIM and makes it so much more portable.  I like gaming at a desk but this just makes so much more sense especially when friends are over also because you can both game on the big screen
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: V3n0m15 on 06:16 PM - 10/21/14
Soooo I think I'm going to pull the trigger on this thing... I priced some nice plywood out (birch, maple, oak, etc) 

Now I'm not sure I'm going to go all out with the magnets but I might just use the original design with some minor tweaks.  Like not having anything restricting the mouse cord and maybe just using those rubber bands like the first design. Having the controller easily accessible for vehicles (depending on the game) and also when your in the menu it's sometimes nice to just go to the controller. Or just setup a profile for just menu stuff with a certain hotkey.  Problem with that is I would be getting an Orbweaver and keys will become more limited than a full keyboard.  There are pros and con's to both but being able to pick this bad boy up and bring it to a friends or LAN party is very appealing!!!!

I'm working on the design and the layout of stuff on Sketch Up and so far I think I just want the controller the mouse and the game pad on the front and then attach the XIM4 and cable control on the back.  I might need to look for a nice wireless headset for this setup also so that I only have one wire going to the XBox One (less clutter)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 02:51 PM - 10/23/14
I had some issues with limited buttons on the orb until i did the analog hack.  After that it freed up 4 most used buttons and I havent looked back.  I use the keyboard for all vehicles except the jet.  Both the analog as well as the vehicle controls just take a week or so and you'll be back to normal.  Well, you'll be better with the analog on foot, and probably not quite as good with vehicles, but its worth not having to switch.  Theres lots of info on tips for vehicle setup and one of the best setup tips is making your exit vehicle button the switcher to foot controls. 

Like to see what you make after you get it done!
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: V3n0m15 on 03:07 PM - 10/23/14
So I found a woodworking board at Lowes that looks pretty heavy duty and sturdy and it was only $22
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/23/75cc4da9add375da50b1da782d738af2.jpg)(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/23/2046fb31c3f92a6fe80da1d7edfbb82a.jpg)(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/23/b1edb09aac674160d6e82098ba10c79c.jpg)

Now for the handle I purchased this bad boy which was only $3 at Lowes
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/23/dd8b6a33d81b9ead5dffc2d3fa875628.jpg)

I just started putting all the dimensions down on the piece of wood and its looking great so far. Only problem is I didn't think about a Jigsaw. I have a circular saw but for curves that won't work out, so I'm going to ask around or pick up a $50 one at some Home Improvement store.

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/23/2bf5e952cf2633e7c11d2aa054f23ecd.jpg)

Now the only thing I changed from the original design is that I left the bottom left and right cutouts out.  I want to put a large Goliath mouse pad on the board and with minor cuts out of the pad it should just fit.

I purchased some elastic and Velcro and if I can't find a way to really enjoy the way it looks I might invest in those magnets and instead of laminating I would just bore out a hole from the wood about 1/2 inch in and attach it like that (its a 3/4 inch piece of wood)... Well I'm at a standstill for now till I get that jigsaw.

I'm a Razer fan so I actually want to make a Razer logo stencil and put that on the board. I purchased the green and black spray paint for the board already.
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/23/3b5098b3f99c7516fdd0e92ee8122463.jpg)

Well wish me luck and I can't wait to game on this thing... Also GDuck24 are you still using that memory foam pillow idea or are you using something much more innovative?  I haven't purchased any foam yet just wondering what your trial and error have lead you too.

-V3n0m
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 03:32 PM - 10/23/14
I'm still pleased with the memory foam bananas.  They squish down more than they used to but it's OK.  If I redo it will be closer to roads design,  maybe with 2 strips in the squarer fashion he did.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: V3n0m15 on 03:34 PM - 10/23/14
Okay nice I'll look into making the bananas because I live down in Texas and with a full pillow underneath that could get very hot over time.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 03:36 PM - 10/23/14
Only made it to 80 today in Fort Worth! Glad fall is here.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: V3n0m15 on 03:38 PM - 10/23/14
Yea El Paso (Military) isn't that bad this time of year either, but come the summer months and it can get up there.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 03:40 PM - 10/23/14
I'll be out that way in a couple weeks.  We are building a couple schools for Socorro isd right now.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: V3n0m15 on 03:43 PM - 10/23/14
Good stuff, I saw that you are a golfer on YouTube and there are a few decent golf courses around here (if you have never been over this way).  How long are you going to be in the area?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 12:30 PM - 10/25/14
Ah really Gduck you play golf? Im a 4 handicap, I can recommend Dan Carraher, amazing teacher. Would definitely see him if I was living in Florida.

Did the Laminating and that Laminate is deadly. Cut myself twice when trying to rip off the laminate quickly when I put it on wrong. Well the Pattex glue wont let you. Ill live saw in movies you survive those cuts. The board is signed with my DNA no question. What is the way to cut that Laminate the Jigsaw and scissors rip it apart. Lost 2 square meters of Laminate. Quite anxious it will break at the edges when I will do the edges tomorrow.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 07:08 PM - 10/25/14
Don't play as much as I used to.  Still a pretty solid 6 or so.  Was a .09 at one point. I video my swing a bunch so my YouTube had that mostly. I can imagine you have done the same as you seen as meticulous as me. 


A table saw is the best way to cut the laminate to size.  You can use a jig saw just make sure it's supported on both sides of the cut. Once it is stuck to the board use the router,  even if there is a few inches of fall off. As long as you cut close to where is stuck you will be ok.  Don't cut in the unsupported parts or it will shatter /break.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:56 PM - 10/25/14
Quote
Don't cut in the unsupported parts or it will shatter /break.

Yeah I really recommend people laminating to have to be patient and have enough material at hand. Its not easy to handle something sturdy and still almost breakable as glass.

Yeah I had 4 rounds of golf this year, no time at all much sh.it going around in practice have to retake control after slapping the crown of an employees head who put it there herself. So you was a scratch, thatís awesome, never had the drive distance to be.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 04:14 AM - 10/26/14
Fuuuuck, broke the board with the last thing I had to do. I drilled exact holes for the magnets and it was a tight fit. I ripped the laminate on the other side. So I learned its better to make some bigger holes. Jeeezus. Ordering stuff again.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: V3n0m15 on 05:36 AM - 10/26/14
Bummers roads! I need to pick up a jig saw for my board and I might use the magnets but its in the air.  I use a Razer deathadder for a mouse so that doesn't have the built in magnet. I might just buy the Razer mouse carrying bag and glue that to the bottom of the board as a way to store the mouse. Then I would just use the magnet for the orbweaver and the controller.  Do you think the magnets are strong enough to pull with enough force through 1/4 in of board?  My board is 3/4 in and I was thinking about just drilling a 1/2 in deep hole and then attaching the magnets that way instead of using the laminate?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 06:20 AM - 10/26/14
Through the board without sinking them? No, for sure not. You can drill them on top but the hidden Gduck method is best imho. Just a lot of carpenter skill required.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 06:52 AM - 10/26/14
Bummer roads! But theres no better teacher than experience. I can hit the ball as far as anybody I know, but I hit 3 balls ob a round and it kills my score.

Venom- 1/4 of board will prolly be to much. If you are going to paint it- you can drill from the top, wood glue it in just under surface , use wood filler, sand then paint. Should work, just a lot of work.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: araman on 11:15 AM - 10/28/14
Had some family issues come up so had to drop this for awhile and am looking to get it back up and running again - quick question for ya gduck: what's the router bit you used in your router demo video (I couldn't quite make it out, sorry, am a  stinkin' Yank) and do you happen to remember the depth?  I believe we used the same thickness board, so the same one you used should work for me.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 12:04 PM - 10/28/14
I had work issues, no I still have them. H...aaaave...to...finish...booooard.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: V3n0m15 on 12:06 PM - 10/28/14
Yea once I purchase a jigsaw I will be working on the board again... I'm also working on making a gaming desk with just one piece of cabinet grade plywood and 2- 2x4s... So far its looking very easily doable and it will be 70"x30" desk space and a place to hide wires.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:21 AM - 11/09/14
This time I made it, quite perfect. The only issue I have is the magnets are now much weaker through the laminate. I mean about 50% weaker. The controllers are held in place but the Orbweaver is too heavy, it falls off. I will put some spacers under the magnets on the Orb to bring the magnets a millimeter closer but I am quite disapponted with the magnets force right now. :(
The router running to you happens when you touch the wood without waiting for the router to have full speed.

Will make pictures tomorrow.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 11:31 AM - 11/09/14
Wonder what's up with the magnets?  If I set the board down with a bump my orb will fall off, but it holds good for the most part.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:04 AM - 11/10/14
Turns out itís the second set of magnets I got they look a bit different and they are much worse. Magnetism is not in one direction. A pair of the first ones holds the Orb firm, you cant shake it off easily. 
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 12:17 PM - 11/10/14
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/10/08f12cf7a1fe29331dfd551657e84ad8.jpg)

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/10/2d59b044ac01ccbf78af0aeba9bd7cd4.jpg)

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/10/60c8187d6d5f04637627da3ea61d667a.jpg)

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/10/1387ac19ec9e50864a0f76cede67c146.jpg)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: V3n0m15 on 12:20 PM - 11/10/14
Looks good roads! I'm building my computer desk today so I'll put pictures up of that and I plan on finishing my lap desk up at a later date. Impressive work and my desk is going to be made out of one birch 4' x 8' piece of ply and 2- 96in 2x4s and then cable management and such stain it and poly the desk it will come out really nice I'm excited to get working on it
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 12:27 PM - 11/10/14
A staright cablegroove looks really pro on a desk you should consider it!
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 01:24 PM - 11/10/14
Very nice Roads! I am impressed!  Upload some fully loaded pics when you get them on there. 
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 01:35 PM - 11/10/14
Yeah I will. I am  happy I found the magnet problem after your "whats wrong with those magnets" would not have found as I ordered the same twice and just saw they are slightly different. Non working magnets would have been ultimate spoiler for me.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 01:52 PM - 11/10/14
Oh I wonder if a mousepad is even necessary with the laminate.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 03:06 PM - 11/10/14
If you like the slick ones,  no.  I am using the cloth one that matches the g502 and I really like it.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 01:50 AM - 11/16/14
almost done just waiting for W11ce to help me with the mouse flashing.

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/360x360q90/14/11/15/088465e316f3965bf791a11ec6f6a5e0.jpg)

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/360x360q90/14/11/15/48dde71fb97e22cf1cc728b6c5d928c2.jpg)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 09:13 AM - 11/16/14
Excellent work! That cable management system looks like it works.  That white cable is going to give me a headache though.  I'm sure there is an explanation and forthcoming resolution. 

No 502 anymore? Franken mouse all the way?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 09:37 AM - 11/16/14
Yes W11ce mouse if we get it working. The cable management is better than expected, recommend it.
The Xim is magnetized also. The white cable will be replaced with black one. Will be trying your phone cable solution just anxious it breaks off laminate when pulled.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 06:42 AM - 11/23/14
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Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 09:11 AM - 11/23/14
Got the mouse going?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 09:23 AM - 11/23/14
yeah works fine just hooked up the mouse switches wrong. I removed the mousepad for now. Looks great and it may be nice directly on the laminate.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 09:23 AM - 12/07/14
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/07/683dfb71ce70223d04b1c2d4cbed95fc.jpg)

Another use for magnets. The top lid Will be held with them. They also make use as spacers for the cables. It's a cable channel begind the television.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 01:28 AM - 12/08/14
Dude you need a work shop lol.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 01:41 AM - 12/08/14
Would love to have one, right now its cutting between operation room and sterilization non-sterile pre-op waiting space.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 02:14 PM - 12/08/14
You operate out of your home?
WTAF? Are you a dodge plastic surgeon?

You know the type?

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I was going to put something about cement butt implants, butt thought better of it.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 02:30 PM - 12/08/14
Yes we bought a Villa 7 years ago added a Frankenstein lab and we live upstairs. Hmm just like Frankenstein.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 07:58 PM - 12/08/14
Zomg that's actually creepy xD.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 11:19 PM - 12/08/14
back to topic lets not spoil this awesome thread.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Lord Of The Sith on 05:22 AM - 12/09/14
Yea sorry, just saying you need a work shop lol.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 08:57 AM - 12/09/14
Every man does.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: V3n0m15 on 09:00 AM - 12/09/14
I'm building my workbench in my garage in the next couple weeks.  My PC desk I built came out great and then after the workbench I'm going to start this lap desk project
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 03:34 AM - 12/12/14
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/12/5577ca15e095b2fc62a8720aa31f3f8c.jpg)

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/12/b4a15e486d3eec2ac07e7171f78fd3ca.jpg)

Now will oil them to make me janitor proof!
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: V3n0m15 on 07:33 AM - 12/12/14
Nice work roads are you going to stain and polyurethane it?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 08:59 AM - 12/12/14
I will use wood oil dunno how its called in English. No laminate.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: V3n0m15 on 09:10 PM - 12/12/14
I'm assuming wood oil is stain? And polyurethane is a clear coat for wood you normally do about 2-3 coats that make it smooth and won't let water penetrate the wood
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Au1d Yin on 06:20 AM - 12/13/14
You probably know this roads, but everyone raves about Osmo Polyx-Oil (it's made in Germany) I just got  some after seeing it on a woodworkers YouTube channel.
 
It's safe for food/children etc ... I've not opened the tin yet, but they say that it smells nice :) .. I love woodworking but HATE the smell of varnish.
 
You can also rub it in if you don't want to use a brush. I'm about to refit my workshop and I'm just going to use Scotchbrite non abrasive pads to rub the Osmo in (on wood and mdf).
 
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 06:58 AM - 12/13/14
No never heard but will check.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: V3n0m15 on 10:22 PM - 12/25/14
So I got a jigsaw for Christmas! I will be cutting out my piece of wood tomorrow and working on it... Not sure if I'll be using it much but its worth a shot. I already have the wood, mine as well see if I like couch gaming.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 01:11 AM - 12/26/14
So what's the plan venom?laminate and magnets?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: V3n0m15 on 06:57 AM - 12/28/14
I was thinking of just doing the outline and routering the edges. Giving it a nice oil based paint job and then polyurethaning it for protection. Then getting a feel for the lap desk see how I like it and then if I love it go all in and do all the laminating and magnets.  If I'm not a huge fan I might just try to sell it on here for a fair price, which I'm sure someone would be all over.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 02:52 PM - 12/31/14
Need ideas. I got a bunch of games for Christmas for me and the boy,  and with xim 4 I can put all the profiles on there.   Before I just had dedicated buttons for each config, but now I'm going to move to a global switcher.  I'm considering digging into the board and cutting holes so I can see some part of the light when I go thru the configurations.  I'm not taking apart my xim 4, so I need a light pass thru or fiber optic kind of thing.  I would prefer to have one single led that shines on top.  What about led lights that glow under the whole desk like Tron or something.  How could I make that work?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 03:27 PM - 12/31/14
too much hustle just put the Xim on the board then.with the many connection errors I get from the pc  app that make me restart the Xim I regret having it under the desk.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 03:33 PM - 12/31/14
You aren't bluetoothing?  I don't get any errors,  but I don't connect to PC.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 03:45 PM - 12/31/14
I am but I get an error at first connection to Parallels now and then. I must be happy it even works on Mac and makes no sense opening a support thread wont be resolved anyway. Its like that forever with the XIM. 
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: KodRaiN on 05:15 PM - 12/31/14
I've had a few random disconnects and freezing on my old Samsung S2.  Pretty annoying but I just make sure to save often while editing.  Other than that I leave it disconnected because on-the-fly is so much faster.

I just got a 3D printer, so I'll try to incorporate that into my next folding lapdesk design.  Maybe something to cable management, xim securing, or cup holding. 
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Lex001 on 03:59 AM - 01/01/15
Hi there,
Been watching this thread for some time and got the inspiration to create a gaming board of my own, using many ideas found here, well it is finally finished (or at least it has evolved to a standstill for now)


(http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah143/lex0wun/XIM%20Forum/imagejpg5_zps7ee38ada.jpg) (http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/lex0wun/media/XIM%20Forum/imagejpg5_zps7ee38ada.jpg.html)

Gonna put up a thread with a bit of an explanation on the what and why as there are a few things that I feel compelled to explain like the XIM mount and the general configuration.
Complements of the season to all :)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 04:01 AM - 01/01/15
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Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 04:47 AM - 01/01/15
Can't see your post Roads.  Cool deal lex. I tried to use the ps controller but there's just not enough buttons on it for me.  Looks like that may be a good couch setup though.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 04:50 AM - 01/01/15
Nice single sided setup there, very cool. I love the XIM4 attachement by the L USB plugs! Thatís genius!
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Lex001 on 05:36 PM - 01/01/15
Bit of an explanation of my board, may be a bit long-winded, apologies...

(http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah143/lex0wun/XIM%20Forum/imagejpg4_zps4e7469f8.jpg) (http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/lex0wun/media/XIM%20Forum/imagejpg4_zps4e7469f8.jpg.html)

Design considerations:
-Need a board for the couch and for my favourite beanbag when I am gaming upstairs i.e. not in the man cave.
-I use a Nav controller and because I have 1x XIM it needs to be easily shifted between locations.
-Everything should stick to the board but nothing should be stuck/fixed to the board.
-The board needs to be relatively compact so I can store it out of sight.

The Board:
Made from 9mm MDF (its the "rest of the world" measurements I'm afraid) for two reasons, 1: It is light but reasonably strong and easy enough to work with and 2: I had some left over from a previous project.

The laminate top I went for because of the brilliant idea from the forum to use magnets to fix the peripherals and it keeps things tidy. For the laminate I went to a cabinet maker/joinery workshop to buy a sheet and they had all kinds to choose from but the cost was too high, however, they had a limited selection of off-cuts and un-needed sheets so they let me pick what I wanted and it cost me a box of beers.
While not my first choice, it has grown on me over time.

Put together and finished using a router with the great advice from gduck24.

The cushion is some high density foam about 200mm high x 160mm wide x 600mm long and covered with a black vinyl material that was left over after covering the gaming chair in the man-cave, had to learn how to use a sewing machine which was an experience; but it worked out well enough.
Attachment to the board using the snap buttons that Roads came up with, another superb idea!

Mounting the XBONE controller, XIM, G502 mouse and Nav controller:

(http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah143/lex0wun/XIM%20Forum/imagejpg6_zps6a428a2b.jpg) (http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/lex0wun/media/XIM%20Forum/imagejpg6_zps6a428a2b.jpg.html)

All of the ideas for how to put these on the board started from what I had seen on the thread, really top notch thinking there from all in the communtiy! Using magnets for all of them.

XBONE controller: I fashioned a post out of 20mm aluminium rod using a lathe and attached it to the battery cover using a low-profile countersunk screw and a washer so that the battery still fits and works in the controller, on the other end is a neodymium magnet set flush with the bottom of the post and snaps to a magnet under the laminate.

G502 mouse: After some experimenting I found that the G502 has its own magnet on the foot-plate and a tiny metal disc on the body of the mouse, while not alot for a single magnet under the board to get a purchase on I found that by doubling up the magnets under the board it would in fact hold it in place as much as I needed; but would still result in it pivoting around on the shiny laminate; so I got one of those "sticky pads" for cellphones that ya use in the car and it keeps it firm.

Result: Magnet holds it down, "jelly pad" stops it sliding, mouse foot stays attached.

Nav Controller: Just got a silicone grip for it and glued some washers to one side (x3) held on firmly with magnets under the laminate, works a treat!

XIM mount: Alot of thought went into this...

I need to be able to easily transfer it from the board to the man-cave setup so I ended up deciding that some sort of mount is the answer. Attaching magnets directly to the XIM made me nervous and after researching the properties of the neodymium magnets with regard to their "pulling distance" I figured a 15mm gap between the magnet and the XIM would ensure it was not going to result in any interference.

I also wanted to have the XIM on top, as a preference, as that way I can check at a glance what config and sub-config I am using based on the pretty lights.

Also on the thread I saw how someone had mounted their XIM on posts to raise it up some; so I got some 4mm aluminium plate to make the base and some 10mm aluminium rod and turned down the diameter to 5.5mm to fit in the holes underneath the XIM in each corner.
I did worry a bit about how accurate the posts had to be to fit snugly but the problem solved itself by the fact that if the holes on each of the posts are just a bit off center; then they can rotate to tighten onto the XIM.

Under the base I glued a big @#$% metal washer which is what sticks to the magnet under the board and cut up some bits of jelly pad to stop it sliding around too much.

(http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah143/lex0wun/XIM%20Forum/imagejpg1_zps16dad0ab.jpg) (http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/lex0wun/media/XIM%20Forum/imagejpg1_zps16dad0ab.jpg.html)

The mount above and below:

(http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah143/lex0wun/XIM%20Forum/imagejpg2_zps4368e002.jpg) (http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/lex0wun/media/XIM%20Forum/imagejpg2_zps4368e002.jpg.html)

(http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah143/lex0wun/XIM%20Forum/imagejpg3_zpsf88af443.jpg) (http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/lex0wun/media/XIM%20Forum/imagejpg3_zpsf88af443.jpg.html)

The finish is what resulted after it got a going over with a bead blaster and the curved sides have been rounded off to help get a decent grip on the mount.

Phew, that's about it, a summary of what stated as "I wonder how I can use my XIM while I am sitting on the couch?" to today...I guess a fella just has to have a project...

Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 05:55 PM - 01/01/15
Nice metal work, that mount looks professional.   You have access to tools I wish I had. 

You can also take the bottom plate of the 502 and double side tape it,  then play without it.  Lightens it up a bit,  but you can't use the weights.  I've grown to like the lighter weight mice. 

So if you are moving the xim only,  do you have another setup?

Do you have any issues with balance? Seems like it might try to lean left on you?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Lex001 on 06:15 PM - 01/01/15
Thanks, fortunately the father-in-law has a lathe and work has an abundance of stuff I can mess around with.
Yup, taking off the bottom plate was definitely on the cards but I guess I dont mind a heavy(ish) mouse and wanted to avoid fixing stuff to the top.

As far as leaning over to the left goes, it sits up surprisingly comfortably once I have my arm resting on it and with my feet up in front, the left side of the board rests easily on my leg, you are right tho, if unattended it does tip over onto its left side.

And the other setup is one I made for the inner sanctum in the basement, put together when I got a XIM edge a while back, essentially a rig I attached to a comfy chair, over-engineered to hell but has the luxury of being allowed to just be what it is in one place, it is getting a couple of upgrades at the moment.

Really like your setup btw, it was the start of all these ideas, if I move to using an OrbWeaver I will go that way.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 12:41 AM - 01/02/15
Can you please sell those mounts? LOL  I right now fixate the Xim with a magnet hotglued to it. Not a great solution.
If I could get the hands on those screws of the XIM I would take up your metal plate idea and screw it to the XIM.

The XIM is not fixated on those posts is it?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Lex001 on 02:23 AM - 01/02/15
Nope, the XIM is not screwed or glued onto anything, I was able to make the posts from 10mm diameter aluminium rod that cost about $1.50 for 200mm and then turn them down to the required diameter using an engineering lathe and cut to equal lengths.
The XIM stays on the mount by way of an "interference" fit which holds itself firmly on the 4 posts due to the diameter being within a hair of the size of the holes.
If it is a bit loose I can turn the posts individually which, due to their slightly off center holes, results in the fit tightening further.
So apart from peeling off the little sponge rubber pads to find the holes underneath, the XIM is completely unscathed and sits solidly on the mount.

Might see about making a few mounts coz I liked makin 'em and could use them to trade for things I just cant get here at home!
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 02:40 AM - 01/02/15
Can you make more of those posts? Could be glued for tight fit? Would need posts low so just a screw fits under. Whats the screw size and length from under? M2 M3 M4? You are in EU right?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Lex001 on 03:09 AM - 01/02/15
Need ideas. I got a bunch of games for Christmas for me and the boy,  and with xim 4 I can put all the profiles on there.   Before I just had dedicated buttons for each config, but now I'm going to move to a global switcher.  I'm considering digging into the board and cutting holes so I can see some part of the light when I go thru the configurations.  I'm not taking apart my xim 4, so I need a light pass thru or fiber optic kind of thing.  I would prefer to have one single led that shines on top.  What about led lights that glow under the whole desk like Tron or something.  How could I make that work?

I use the cycle config option rather than hotkeys but really dont change games (and therefore configs) much in a given session, if it comes to it I might print a little cheat sheet to keep track of what colour goes with which setup or just do the manager thing to keep track of what is currently active.

As far as being able to see the lights while it is under the board, could you set up some inspection mirrors, the little disc ones with the flexible joint and telescoping stalks, in a way that lets you see around the front to the XIM?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 10:49 AM - 01/02/15
Bf4 is where I have issues. I have a dedicated enter vehicle and exit vehicle button and they are double bound so that the change is automatic.  I use the teensy mood on my joystick so I gained a few buttons on the orb when I left WASD but I'm still running out and will have to go global for the rest of my configs.  I'm still on vacation but when I get back I'm going to move it close to the hole that my controller goes thru to see if I can get a little glow thru it.  I just need some visual.  I thought about mirrors too,  but I just don't know if that will be clean enough.  Has anybody looked inside the xim yet? I doubt it has traditional leds, and prolly has those micro flat ones. 
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:55 AM - 01/02/15
Yeah I did when looking for a way to fixate it and no traditional leds :) Arent there sole light tubes out there? like the Toslink ones.

Lex make some more screw-posts please!

Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 12:31 PM - 01/02/15
Aha! I wanted fiber of some kind but fiber think of somewhere cheap to get one.  Toslink is perfect.  I'll experiment and let you know.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 12:38 PM - 01/02/15
just cut off some plastic and glue on the Xim.

haha if the XIM was WIFI we could have Philips hue light control :D
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Lex001 on 04:35 PM - 01/02/15
I tried the enter/exit vehicle binding to the subconfig too but have a different one for helis vs tanks so set up hot buttons on the nav controller for that purpose, lights definitely needed there to keep track. Might have to revisit that to see if it is in fact necessary to have separate sub-configs...would make life easier.

Can you make more of those posts? Could be glued for tight fit? Would need posts low so just a screw fits under. Whats the screw size and length from under? M2 M3 M4? You are in EU right?

As far as that goes Roads, I think I understand your requirements there, you would like to keep your XIM under the board and with the base plate as close to the XIM as possible? If so then you could glue the posts into the holes with superglue or hot glue or use some plumbers ribbon tape to ensure a really tight fit, and the posts could be maybe 10mm high which keeps the gap to a minimum for a low profile.

I used 12mm 4g (edited,was 6g before) countersunk screws and made the posts 20mm long resulting in a 15mm gap between the base and the XIM to keep some distance from the magnetic influences and allow some options for the usb leads to be plugged in, turns out that the 90 degree connectors work really well too.

Will get some more materials to fashion some more mounts/posts with different heights and see if I can come up with a low profile mount. How thick is that cushion under the board you have? about 50mm?

BTW, not in EU, in New Zealand, total opposite side of the globe!
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 06:11 PM - 01/02/15
Oh for christ why so far away LOL makes no sense sending :(
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Lex001 on 06:19 PM - 01/02/15
Ha! you are telling me, wanted 2x 5.0 pound curly cord from amazon UK and and they were going to charge $45 NZD for shipping!
Will see what can be done ;)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 03:27 PM - 01/03/15
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(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/03/06a70c3363d47e3912c4864cdc151023.jpg)

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/03/d4759a122cab11e338c8897bf5793529.jpg)

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/03/ca81ef20228bda3ac138d9c01c566282.jpg)

The led is apparently not very tough like regular led s and I managed to knock or burn out the blue when I inserted the toslink.  Sucks. It  works well.  If anybody else did this mod, make sure the fiber is fixated where it cannot touch the led.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 03:36 PM - 01/03/15
Blue came back on! Muahaha!
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:30 PM - 01/03/15
LOL nice, so you drilled a hole in your XIM? I guess you damaged it when closing or the fiber just guillotined the led as it was not fixated?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 10:48 PM - 01/03/15
I couldn't help it.  Another warranty voided.  Led is weird.  When I put a little pressure on it it works.  I don't know what I did
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 10:53 PM - 01/03/15
YOU BRUTALLY KILLED IT! hahaha
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: piiwii on 11:35 AM - 01/04/15
Just an update to my original post: http://xim4.com/community/index.php?topic=32196.msg466972#msg466972 (http://xim4.com/community/index.php?topic=32196.msg466972#msg466972).

I purchased the Logitech G240 mousepad, and it's almost a perfect fit on my board. Here's what it hows like now:


(http://oi57.tinypic.com/1pcitt.jpg)

I've never owned such a large mousepad before, it's soooo good.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 12:40 AM - 01/05/15
but you need to keep your legs together with that lapdesk?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 12:42 AM - 01/05/15
Gduck that XIM4 mind probe is the strangest mod I have ever seen LOL
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: piiwii on 05:36 AM - 01/05/15
but you need to keep your legs together with that lapdesk?

Nope I can sit pretty casually with it. This is how I normally have it, with my legs comfortably apart. It looks like it's teetering on the edge of my right leg but it's not, the second photo below shows you why it works so well.

(http://oi61.tinypic.com/2ql902f.jpg)

The cushion beneath it is a cylindrical shape so it fits very nicely between my legs (that didn't sound right...), it sits there very snugly and doesn't move around.

(http://oi60.tinypic.com/2ynkoll.jpg)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 07:05 AM - 01/05/15
Gduck that XIM4 mind probe is the strangest mod I have ever seen LOL
Thanks! I'll blame your toslink suggestion on it.  I knew there was someway to get it done.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 01:53 AM - 01/17/15
When fixing a device with the magnet look for the most central possible spot. Just saying, may spare you of unnecessary drill holes. Had this on N52te set the magnet under the keys, there is room for a 4mm*10mm magnet there.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 07:52 AM - 01/17/15
For stability when you stand it up?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 07:59 AM - 01/17/15
right if it holds well you should be able to turn it face down and the devices still hold well.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Au1d Yin on 05:54 PM - 01/20/15
Any of you guys ever try using the laminate surface as a mouse pad ... if it did work would a light or a dark laminate colour make a difference ?
 
Thought I'd have a go at making a folding table with legs that fold away inside: I made a little picnic box years ago that holds all the picnic stuff ... when you open it up the legs come down and it becomes a table.
 
Dug it out the other day and it looks ideal for couch gaming ... needs to have a shaped edge though to fit around the body .. so I'm gonna have to make a new one from scratch.
 
Any advice on whether the choice of laminate colour would make a difference to mouse usability would be welcome .. though it probably wont work too well I guess.
 
 
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 05:59 PM - 01/20/15
Solid matte black works well with my g502, I just don't like the noise and speed so I use the g240 mat.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Au1d Yin on 06:11 PM - 01/20/15
Ah,  thanks ... black it is then  :)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 02:01 AM - 03/03/15
I think of cutting the lapdesk a bit to make it smaller and lighter.

(http://www11.pic-upload.de/03.03.15/zpvjhx3cqg9.jpg)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 07:07 AM - 03/03/15
I made one smaller for my son. I like the size, but I don't like the mouse in front of me so much, nothing I couldn't get used to, but just not for me.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 07:17 AM - 03/03/15
Yeah want to keep the width.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: piiwii on 04:22 AM - 03/12/15
Ok so I completely reworked my Stable Table. The braiding on my G502 cable was starting to fray, so I cut it all off (it took me AGES). I had no idea it actually served a purpose - it's designed to reduce friction. Without the braiding, the exposed rubber was gripping the edge of the desk, creating a lot of cable drag. So I bought a Razor mouse bungee:

(http://oi59.tinypic.com/rmuqyq.jpg)

The only problem was figuring out how to install it...

So I wandered aimlessly around the shop until inspiration struck. Here's the finished product!!!

(http://oi61.tinypic.com/xqb96s.jpg)

(http://oi62.tinypic.com/o6adci.jpg)

I made this using a sink plug I bought for $3.50 at Kmart:

(http://oi60.tinypic.com/2n0kcif.jpg)

It fits really snugly in between the stand, holds very tight due to the rubber:

(http://oi58.tinypic.com/29f56hw.jpg)

(http://oi59.tinypic.com/2qa1he0.jpg)

I removed the metal plate, and drilled a hole through the middle:

(http://oi60.tinypic.com/o06reh.jpg)

As you can see, the mouse bungee slides in from the top and holds very firm. It works like a charm!

(http://oi58.tinypic.com/otp4ph.jpg)

(http://oi58.tinypic.com/30setc9.jpg)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 04:27 AM - 03/12/15
You sure you dont want to build a real Gduck? I like the cableholder thing but wont put it on Gduck.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: piiwii on 04:30 AM - 03/12/15
You sure you dont want to build a real Gduck? I like the cableholder thing but wont put it on Gduck.

Nah very happy with this:) I want something really small (as you can see it's only a little bit bigger than my Logitech G240 mousepad). I really want something that I can casually lift and move away with just one hand if I need to get up. I don't want it to be a chore every time I want to get up to go to the toilet or to get a drink etc.

And I really love this mouse bungee, I'm definitely going to continue using them in the future. The little elevated spring arm is just great. I would highly recommend it.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 04:42 AM - 03/12/15
We need to get the Gduck made from plastic, would be much lighter. We could also have attachments for XIM and cables and the pillow under it.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: piiwii on 04:49 AM - 03/12/15
In terms of cables etc, this is how I've handled it...

I put all my stuff into a little Ikea dolly which has castor wheels, and I just pull it up next to my chair when I play:)

Notice my Stable Table fits perfectly on the top when I'm not using it; it's like a lid!

(http://oi57.tinypic.com/2vmudxh.jpg)

(http://oi60.tinypic.com/29awg88.jpg)


At the back, I've connected everything to a single power board and HDMI splitter, so you only have ONE power cable and ONE HDMI cable coming out, making it easy to push around when I'm vacuuming etc. I really like it:)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 06:50 AM - 03/12/15
We need to get the Gduck made from plastic, would be much lighter. We could also have attachments for XIM and cables and the pillow under it.
I need to find a sugar mama that will finance my adventures. This could weigh less than 5lbs loaded if it wan plastic. You could sell and ship them cheap too. Needs to be injection molded. I have no idea where to start.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 06:53 AM - 03/12/15
I like that crash cart piwii. All my stuff is stationary, but if I had to be mobile I would like that.

I play in a chair in front of the TV. You should try this desk. I know it would be much more stable and consistent. Plus it moves and sets to the side super easy. I imagine the lid flexes and has to be right in front of you limiting some movements.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 07:22 AM - 03/12/15
Ask Obsiv he did injection molding a couple of times. First you need to 3D model it, magnet placements. I am OK with the size, dont chane that. Should be quite thin with girder structure, within girder structure Magnet holes in each crossing of girders. Mushrooms for the cables, works great also. XIM Holding clamp- My pillow has proven super great and very comfy size is perfect also. Could be sold separately. W11ce could 3D model it or I am sure others here on the forum can. 
What if you kickstarted this? Or what if Obsiv would do this as XIM board? Its your idea so you decide who has the work and who makes the bucks.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Duke3d on 08:56 AM - 03/12/15
Ok so I completely reworked my Stable Table. The braiding on my G502 cable was starting to fray, so I cut it all off (it took me AGES). I had no idea it actually served a purpose - it's designed to reduce friction. Without the braiding, the exposed rubber was gripping the edge of the desk, creating a lot of cable drag. So I bought a Razor mouse bungee:

(http://oi59.tinypic.com/rmuqyq.jpg)

The only problem was figuring out how to install it...

So I wandered aimlessly around the shop until inspiration struck. Here's the finished product!!!

(http://oi61.tinypic.com/xqb96s.jpg)

(http://oi62.tinypic.com/o6adci.jpg)

I made this using a sink plug I bought for $3.50 at Kmart:

(http://oi60.tinypic.com/2n0kcif.jpg)

It fits really snugly in between the stand, holds very tight due to the rubber:

(http://oi58.tinypic.com/29f56hw.jpg)

(http://oi59.tinypic.com/2qa1he0.jpg)

I removed the metal plate, and drilled a hole through the middle:

(http://oi60.tinypic.com/o06reh.jpg)

As you can see, the mouse bungee slides in from the top and holds very firm. It works like a charm!

(http://oi58.tinypic.com/otp4ph.jpg)

(http://oi58.tinypic.com/30setc9.jpg)



Absolutely beautiful and elegant.

I used one of these:

(http://www.dcv.gov.bc.ca/Content/images/products/m/7510362023.jpg)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 09:41 AM - 03/12/15
Ask Obsiv he did injection molding a couple of times. First you need to 3D model it, magnet placements. I am OK with the size, dont chane that. Should be quite thin with girder structure, within girder structure Magnet holes in each crossing of girders. Mushrooms for the cables, works great also. XIM Holding clamp- My pillow has proven super great and very comfy size is perfect also. Could be sold separately. W11ce could 3D model it or I am sure others here on the forum can. 
What if you kickstarted this? Or what if Obsiv would do this as XIM board? Its your idea so you decide who has the work and who makes the bucks.

The little plastic desk I have has a good structured setup. It would be neat to get on kickstarter but they have rejected some of my other stuff.  They seem only take the projects that have a apple-ish type video to go with it.  I'm not really set up to do one of those with my accent and non studio.  You also need to have some sorts of ideas on cost etc.  I have a friend that has connections in vietnam and china.  He might can give me an idea.  I wonder what the market for this would actually be in terms of lapdesks sold now, potential buyers of this size and style, and price for it.  I would guess it could be made for less than 5$, shipped for around 10$, so that puts the starting price at 30$ total out the door?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 11:07 AM - 03/12/15
30$ id pick up two. Yeah get in some info on those molds. I heard something around 20.000 USD.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: piiwii on 03:31 AM - 03/16/15

Absolutely beautiful and elegant.

I used one of these:

(http://www.dcv.gov.bc.ca/Content/images/products/m/7510362023.jpg)

Thanks:) I also thought about just clamping the cable down at first but the bungee is just so nice. Elevating the cable like that really makes a big difference. And the spring arm is just the cherry on top. It looks like a gimmick but it's really awesome, I'd highly recommend it.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 01:32 AM - 03/19/15
G303 magnet information.
A 3mm thick magnet wont fit under the pcb. 2mm should fit but better use 1mm It does fit but the pcb is very slightly tilted which is enough to lift the laser which has a very low lift off distance. So 10mm x 1mm will fit even 20mm x 1mm should fit. Height is limiting. Put stripe on magnet so it doesnít touch pcb of course. 10x1 Neodymium is sub 1g so doesnít really add to weight. Mouse weight is 92g with magnet.
Screws are under front and rear glide. You need a very very small screw driver. A PH000X40 cross driver fits perfectly.
Opening, closing and taing pcb out is very easy.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: tails72 on 03:07 AM - 03/19/15
Hey roads, quick question, where do you buy all your electronic stuff etc because i can't find anything in france.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 03:13 AM - 03/19/15
Amazon mostly as they have nice 30 day give back policy. Check Geizhals.at you can search for low prices across Europe. G303 I bought directly from Logitech.
Ca marche!
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 08:12 AM - 04/03/15
Gduck need a good solution for charging my upcoming Tesla easily. Please proceed. :D
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 08:14 AM - 04/03/15
lol.  Link? 
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 08:25 AM - 04/03/15
There isn't a link really. You need to use the universal mobile connector to be able to open the lid on the Tesla by pressing button on the connector (quite cool). Now its outdoor should be protected by rain and snow and should be easily accessible.
Something like this:

(http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=50375&d=1401332423)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 08:55 AM - 04/03/15
oh hell.  I didnt know what you were talking about with "tesla".  Now I get it.  So you will be parking it outdoors?  Do you guys use 110v and 220v over there?  You dont want the wall charger installed at the house and a mobile one just in the trunk for travel?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 09:06 AM - 04/03/15
Yes I want to buy a second mobile one and use it installed firmly. The advantage is you can open the charging lid without touching the car, meaning one hand charging. Its much cheaper than the Tesla wall adapter that is not even outdoor I think and not for EU use.
Have you testdriven a Tesla? I did the P85D yesterday and its @#$% @#$% @#$% @#$% awesome.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: KodRaiN on 09:35 PM - 04/05/15
I really want to get a Tesla.  The S class is a bit outside my price range since I just bought a house, and I really don't like the look of the X.  Hopefully in a few years they will have a cheaper sedan that doesn't look ridiculous.  I would sell my left nut right now if they had a hatchback...
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Riff-Raff on 06:51 PM - 05/04/15
Solid matte black works well with my g502, I just don't like the noise and speed so I use the g240 mat.


I'm late to this 48 page thread, & admittedly I have not read the whole thing yet.  It looks as though the desk has evolved quite a bit through trial & error.  I'm planning on building one & I was wondering if you and Roads would be willing to post a detailed summary of what you've learned & think would make the best board (including cables, placement, specific magnets, hole/magnet placement etc.).  Thanks!
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 07:12 PM - 05/04/15
There's a ton of good info in the thread and most of it has a picture or video with it. I would say skim the thread based on pictures and you will find most of the good stuff.  The last plans I posted are what most are modeled after, but that's the beauty that you can tweak to make it your own. 

That being said these are things you must do:

Make out of 1/2 material, preferably plywood and use laminate for to surface.
Drill holes/place magnets to hold controllers and stuff
Mount xim under, drill minimum holes for wires to come thru

Up to you:

Pillows/bananas underneath
Cable manager/Velcro wires under
Shrink deminsions - it is a large table and very stable, could be smaller, especially depth front to back.

There is to much that will be personal preference. I'm sure Roads had a short list and was debating cutting his board down so may have some more input on size.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: roads on 09:26 PM - 05/04/15
No the size is still perfect as you chose from day 1. I have no time for a summary. Just Magnets below laminate and make magnet holes big. I like the cable groove others my like holes. find a pillow maker the size I chose is perfect its in this thread, the Fixation works also great. Those cable holders I proposed are perfect too. XIM under the board is a good choice too to have less cables. Multiplex wood is better and Plastik would be even lighter.
Sorry thatís all from me.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Riff-Raff on 12:12 PM - 05/05/15
Thanks guys!  How exactly did you attach the XIM4 underneath.  Still using double sided tape?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 12:22 PM - 05/05/15
I have since moved to industrial Velcro 2 inches wide. Works good
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Riff-Raff on 01:26 PM - 05/05/15
Have you considered a desk grommet with a cable retractors as a cable management solution?  I realize this picture shows an Ethernet cable, but the concept would allow you to pull out enough cord to game and yet let you easily shorten the cord for storage to there would be less chance of something catching onto the excess cable.  There seems to be a lot of cool looking grommet options.  I haven't seen much in the way of a universal cable retractor but perhaps something like what is in the 2nd picture could be modded?


(https://www.legrand.us/~/media/products/images/wiremold/Meeting-Room-Solutions/Desk-Module/Lo-Res-Photos/Application-Photos/LOA-Desk_Module-Install-2.ashx?w=370&h=400&bc=ffffff&as=0)

(http://www.electronix.com/images/86-2135.bmp)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 02:13 PM - 05/05/15
Once I found the phone coiled USB cables I wrote looking.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Riff-Raff on 10:48 AM - 05/08/15
Working on cutting & applying the laminate this weekend, but have 2 more Questions:

1. I need to get a new gaming mouse, is there a particular model that works best with the magnets?  Thinking of the G502.

2. I'm stateside, what type/size of magnets & where do you recommend ordering them?

Thanks
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 09:48 PM - 05/08/15
502 is the ish. Plate on bottom will come off so if basically comes with its own magnetic mounting plate. Just add double sided tape. Sensor has yet to be surpassed for performance.

For my mags on eBay. Something like these - 10pcs N50 Super Strong Round Disc Rare Earth Neodymium Magnets 7 x 4mm Hole 2mm

Post a pic of what you end up with. Always interested in what people change and modify.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Riff-Raff on 10:28 AM - 10/23/15
Finally finished the desk and the magnets you recommended are not even close to holding the controller or Nostromo keypad in place.  Any suggestions?  Could it be the width of the laminate (didn't think to ask if there are different widths)?  Or just a bad batch of magnets?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 06:16 PM - 10/23/15
Finally finished the desk and the magnets you recommended are not even close to holding the controller or Nostromo keypad in place.  Any suggestions?  Could it be the width of the laminate (didn't think to ask if there are different widths)?  Or just a bad batch of magnets?
Laminate should only be about 1/16 thick. My magnets hold them with ease. I would start there.

Got any pics of desk and said magnets?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Riff-Raff on 09:51 PM - 10/23/15
My laminate is 1/16.  I'm guessing the eBay seller sent me a weaker grade of magnetes.  I went with a star grommet and I plan to use the extra rubber stopper balls to drill/submerge magnetes to use as cord holders while I'm gaming.  Waiting on mouse pad & Roads custom cushion.  Here are some pics:

(http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y336/hlriffraff/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsewdx8ewb.jpeg) (http://s1027.photobucket.com/user/hlriffraff/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsewdx8ewb.jpeg.html)

(http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y336/hlriffraff/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsrcnbqebi.jpeg) (http://s1027.photobucket.com/user/hlriffraff/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsrcnbqebi.jpeg.html)

(http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y336/hlriffraff/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsohvxmwre.jpeg) (http://s1027.photobucket.com/user/hlriffraff/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsohvxmwre.jpeg.html)

(http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y336/hlriffraff/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsyzhmmd4n.jpeg) (http://s1027.photobucket.com/user/hlriffraff/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsyzhmmd4n.jpeg.html)

(http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y336/hlriffraff/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsv2zxzhmw.jpeg) (http://s1027.photobucket.com/user/hlriffraff/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsv2zxzhmw.jpeg.html)

(http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y336/hlriffraff/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsasp7rt9x.jpeg) (http://s1027.photobucket.com/user/hlriffraff/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsasp7rt9x.jpeg.html)

(http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y336/hlriffraff/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsuig530o2.jpeg) (http://s1027.photobucket.com/user/hlriffraff/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsuig530o2.jpeg.html)

(http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y336/hlriffraff/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsfhlweoxo.jpeg) (http://s1027.photobucket.com/user/hlriffraff/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsfhlweoxo.jpeg.html)

Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 10:08 PM - 10/23/15
Nice job! I like that center grommet. It's always neat to see everyone's layouts. That g502 is a bad mamajamma. My favorite mouse so far.

Those magnets look small. Maybe they are one size less than the ones I have. I'll look tomorrow but I believe mine are a tad bigger than 1/2 inch. It's hard to tell the scale, but yours look closer to 3/8ths or less. Also, on my controller and keyboard the magnets are completely on the laminate, no air gap.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 10:15 PM - 10/23/15
These:

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=151445332500&alt=web
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Riff-Raff on 01:45 PM - 10/26/15
You mentioned that your magnets are a little bigger than 1/2 inch, but the 7mm magnets in your link are closer to 1/4 inch.  Just wondering if that is the issue.  Thanks
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 05:05 PM - 10/26/15
You mentioned that your magnets are a little bigger than 1/2 inch, but the 7mm magnets in your link are closer to 1/4 inch.  Just wondering if that is the issue.  Thanks
Crap. You know what - I prolly posted the wrong link back a few pages too. The magnets are close to 1/2 though. That is definitely the issue.

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/26/4a43a5fbf82827b08263cbd5c0a1c7a1.jpg)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Riff-Raff on 05:19 PM - 10/26/15
Haha - no worries!  What is the thickness?  Same 4mm?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 05:40 PM - 10/26/15
Nah, about 1/4 so 7mm or so I guess
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: GhostofWar on 09:11 AM - 12/14/15
Its got a curve for my belly..lol
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 09:06 PM - 12/14/15
Its got a curve for my belly..lol
That way you can make it to where no chip crumbs manage to escape.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: phazed001 on 06:37 PM - 05/14/16
Gave this one a bash today 1st time trying anything like this excuse the cutting  ::)

[img=http://s32.postimg.org/q6mt9h90x/P1010631.jpg] (http://postimg.org/image/q6mt9h90x/)


Thanks for the diagrams gduck =)
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 06:56 PM - 05/14/16
Nice! Have you played the over watch beta?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: phazed001 on 09:39 PM - 05/14/16
Yea, It was fun many in hours in. I couldn't get myself off it.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Boseephus on 07:24 AM - 12/31/17
Is this thread still active? If so I have some questions for GDuck and Roads.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 09:13 AM - 12/31/17
I'm still around. Not gaming much anymore but I'll try to answer any questions.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Boseephus on 12:21 PM - 12/31/17
Sucks to hear you're not gaming much these days, but awesome you're still part of the community! GDuck is the desk that Roads created built with the same dimensions that you provided on page 1? For some reason, his desk looks like its bigger.

I'm looking to get started on building this desk this Tuesday.  GDUck are you on the Xim Discord?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 12:32 PM - 12/31/17
I don't know if roads made the exact same desk. He was a modder, so without him chiming in I could not say. I am not on the discord.

The desk I made served me very well. The main changed people made send to be revolving around the cut out for fitting in a chair or around you. I think if you stay close to the original dimensions you will be fine.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Boseephus on 12:07 PM - 02/05/18
Gduck,

You mentioned earlier that you were going to try building the desk out with Plywood.  I'm considering doing the same, what kind of ply would you use?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 12:24 PM - 02/05/18
I did make one out of ply.  It was 1/2" russian birch.  8 or 9 ply.
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Boseephus on 11:21 AM - 03/07/18
I did make one out of ply.  It was 1/2" russian birch.  8 or 9 ply.

Hey Gduck how what were the dimensions of the ply you bought before you cut into it?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: gduck24 on 06:07 PM - 03/07/18
I did make one out of ply.  It was 1/2" russian birch.  8 or 9 ply.

Hey Gduck how what were the dimensions of the ply you bought before you cut into it?

I used to have a cabinet shop.  The plywood we got was weird.  5 feet wide by 5 feet tall.  Smelled like popsicle sticks.  Lowes and home depot have similar stuff, but its more American sized like 2'x4'.  Just check the plys.  The better stuff has more.   
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Nymitaria on 04:59 AM - 07/29/18
Hey GDuck,

I got plenty of inspiration from this thread, kudos for sharing so much.
My project is quite different from the direction you took, but I wanted to share my end result  8) ;D

(http://digital-osmosis.se/LapboardProject/Lapboard-header.JPG)

(http://digital-osmosis.se/LapboardProject/IMG_20180715_165249.jpg)

Cheers and hope you get back to gaming once in a while with your awesome GDeck  ;)

/Nymi
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Verone- on 04:06 PM - 10/27/18
Any chance you can revive the pictures?
Title: Re: Homemade Gaming Lap Desk
Post by: Verone- on 06:01 PM - 11/20/18
(https://preview.ibb.co/jwKTeq/IMG-20181121-004852191.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fpQekV)

Just made one with my buddy today, still need to finish it, but its already awesome